First ride on Phantom!
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- čas přidán 22. 04. 2024
- Last week has been preparation for this. In this video we will be putting the first ride on Phantom
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We had one like this. My uncle eventually put a couple thousand miles on him in the back country. The horse was smart, they missed a turn in the dark in steep country. My uncle gave him his head. He turned around and eventually stopped. My uncle turned a flashlight on, and the trail marker to camp they needed was by his boot. This horse had been in that spot one year previously from a different direction. We miss him dearly. He needed a job and interesting stimulation.
He is going to be a fun one! I sure hope his owner wants to do things with him - this is one smart horse that wants to learn. Amazing how much he has learned so far.
Robert’s riding skills are impressive. He makes it look easy on even the most challenging horses.
Fun horse to watch being trained. I love him, ADHD and all.
Hahahaha I was thinking that horse is exactly like me super ADHD 😂
Yep, clearly ADHD. ❤
@@Channelinterrupted Right?! If you know, you know!
Learning so much from watching your training. Your patience and unhurried approach is something all riders can learn from. That can keep both horse and rider calm. Wish I had seen this 40 years ago when I started riding.
I bet he’d love following the cows to keep his mind stimulated. I like that horse he’s smart and kinda fearless.
Another beautiful, smart Arabian. He doesn’t seem to be as aggressive as he was. Looks like he is respecting your space now. That confidence boarders on arrogance though lol.
He is learning that he and I can do things together and that is more rewarding to him than being aggressive. He just didn't know that was something. That "accomplish something together" is very powerful.
I would love to see his bloodlines and ancestry. He looks like he has some powerhouse bloodlines.
Robert doesn’t need spurs that makes me happy!
Good morning all. Wow in less then a week, that's a great job Tim. Nice ride Robert. Thank you Tim and Melinda for video.😃😇
Same n Ireland and Poland- cold. Thank you for excellent tutorial. You are amazing trainer an we are spread word about it. Thank you ❤
He’s like a Malinois. Smart and need lots and lots of training and mental stimulation. Not for everyone!
Next we wiil see at Cat show , working all the cats. lol.😸😸😸😸😸😹
Always so impressed Tim!
Phantom and the cat was hysterical. Lol I bet the cat will love to give that job to the cows.
He strikes me as a horse where the wheels upstairs are constantly spinning and mostly going in the opposite direction you'd prefer they go...
HA! This absolutely made my day! Thank you for the master class in cat herding! I work with at risk youth and always feel like I'm trying to herd cats without half as much success. Knowing it can be done is the inspiration I needed.
Lol.
Would love to have a conversation with you one day about the program my wife had using horses to work with at risk youth at an alternative school. It was a marvelous thing to watch.
@@timandersonhorsetraining I'm in Minnesota and while we don't have a therapeutic riding program in our area, we do recommend one in the metro area for kids. I'd love to talk about it more. I haven't riden in a long time but still love horses and appreciate your channel. A lot of the principles you discuss actually apply to people as well.
Good sized Arb. Nice honest mind.
Wow, love , love this horse. Thank you guys 😊 you make it look easy.
Phantom is such a nice horse! I would love to see Phantom work with cattle!!
I always took the dogs out when first riding a horse out for its first ride. Same as the cat, it gave them someone familiar to follow if they got a bit stuck.
Agree wholeheartedly about the lunging before riding. Not a good precedent to set for the future of the horse.
I was literally waiting for the cat to show up 💕🐈
That was a good first ride and fun to watch 🖒
He had a good day
He has _really_ shown how much he needed a 'job of work', with all its mental challenges, and everything about him is improving greatly. He seems to relish new experiences - the biggest difficulty will probably be, as you've rightly said, judging the best speed to progress in his education.
Thank goodness for Robert!❤❤❤❤
I can't wait until the cat shows up next time. I don't the cat's afraid of anything either. Pushing cows will be interesting. Nice job today. Kudos to Robert.
Smart and confident gives you so many possibilities. I worked summers at a riding camp when I was younger, and I always preferred a horse that made ME keep MY mind engaged. It's only fair for the rider to be smart and confident as well. There are a lot of good things to be said for bomb proof horses but not everyone wants to ride a couch with a saddle on it. And I have worked with cases at work with youth and families where I had to work harder to keep them engaged. The payoff feels bigger when I've had to think harder and put more effort into getting the desired result.
Think I would set up an obstacle course with pool noodles, a bridge, poles, poles to back thru,fake trees! Whatever, I could dream up just to give him something a bit extra to think about. He is smart....
Yes that all will be good for him.
My old eyes initially read pool noodles as poodles! Yikes!
Great job Mr Tim and Mr Robert!
@@showpoodles691 LMBO!
That was great! Love your training videos .. I think this horse is gonna be special ...
I am currently helping a friend getting the first rides on her young horse and watching this helped a lot!
Tim so impressed with your program! The power of 2, You and Robert make an excellent team. I wish I could send my 4 yr. old to you. I have spent months rehabbing him as he was dead lame and beat to heck when he stepped off the haulers trailer that shipped him to me from the seller. I think he is ready to go to the trainer here locally now, the trainer has a good reputation starting colts. It will be a restart as he has not been ridden for 8 months. I have lost much faith in a lot of people who sell horses, the industry has gotten worse in the way that there is no honor and the word honest does not exist. I did not send the gelding back to the seller due to the fear he would be abused even more. Wish me success, we will need it 😊
Those 2 in the background appearing and disappearing at the same time was hikarious😊
He was amazing, and Robert, too😊
Robert, that was impressive 🥳
The mic static made me smile.... sounded like trying to unwrap a peppermint in church. Robert is so wonderful, wish we could see him a bit more. Much love and respect from Alabama.
beautiful horse, i would defiantly do a lot of trail riding with this horse and leave the arena schooling brief and with all the cones and poles to keep him busy thinking , he is coming along fantastic Tim and thankyou for your thorough explanation and Robert riding him for the first time loved watching this moment
Phantom started listening much better when you put up the comment “Thanks to my Patreon Subscribers”. IMO
That was awesome! He can herd anything and do obstacle courses!
Great work, you two!
THE WAY you describe him is exactly how my mare is, shes OTTB and i can literally hear her thinking ."Why are we doing this im bored" she loves going out on a trail ride but she doesnt have enough miles shes still very green and i judt dont know what to do sometimes, shes very intelligent, so i can totally relate (they get bored with the fundamentals )
Phantom picks up training very quickly. Yes Tim reiterating that is why you need to step it up to keep Phantom engaged. Great training resources thanks ❤
Is he ever a stunning gorgeous beauty!!! It's nice to watch trainers that know what they are doing😊😊
Like the Training and system
being old myself im glad to see you are careful and have a younger person do the first rides
FUN TO SEE HOW FAR YOU HAVE COME WITH HIM , I ALWAYS WONDER HOW MY MARE WAS STARTED SHES REALLY SWEET AND SEEMS LIKE WHOEVER STARTED HER WAS GENTLE and did a nice job with her
Phantom is a majestic horse with a quick mind. Very sharp and gorgeous. What are the owner’s plan so far as the disciplines? Dressage maybe?
justus6594, Yes but that photo-bombing Cat recently ruined one of Tim's videos by disconnecting or ? breaking the camera setup! 😁
Tim's training videos are The Best. Such full information is provided!
That’s my KWPN to a tee! It is exhausting to keep that kind engaged! Ride the ears!
Very interesting to hear you describe what you are doing to keep this horse tuned in to you
Phantom did great. I really like this horse because he reminds me of an animal that I had. When I first saw Phantom, I thought that he had either had some abuse or was taken away from his mother too young. Now I would bet money that he was taken from his mother too young, they get stubborn like he is when that happens. They ignore you like he does. Sometimes they get angry about it too. Whoever had him originally might deny it, but I would bet money on it. I had a female that was angry about it but she never hurt me, she gave me warnings like she might but I got her through it by pushing her away, kind of like you do with his trying to nip. I was always kind to her. She was very scared at first. I got her from some people that got her from a rescue. They didn't want her because she had too many issues with that. I still have her and it took me about 3 years to get her to fully trust me and love me. She's a good friend to me now. We seldom have any moments where she even shows me that she is angry any more. I have scolded her when she has and she got better about it the next time because she started to like me and wanted to be my friend. My boy that I had, I had to bottle feed, he had been taken so early, not by me, but he came to me that way. He was extremely smart like Phantom and stubborn in just the same way, not paying attention to me, looking way etc. It also looks like Phantom has been forced a bit, maybe not by abuse, but forced in a way that he shouldn't have been because someone else didn't know what to do with him. That makes them more stubborn. Phantom has come along remarkably fast I think just by watching this. Which I think shows how much that he wants to trust someone again and form a bond with them. It takes a long time for animals when they are taken too young to bond again, because that original bond had been broken too soon. I've come to learn with animals that is a very important time for them and should never be rushed. It is such an great idea to work him with cows. As much energy as he has and as smart as he is he will love that. I think Phantom will take an owner that understands him but I think that he will be a wonderful horse for someone. I think that you are right, he will always be a challenge. My boy Chief was always a challenge, always trying to out smart me and I always had to show him that I was smarter. So, he was a lot of work and a lot of trouble. But I miss him a lot. I've never had an animal like him before and he loved me with all of his big red heart. So, whoever owns Phantom, he's not the type of horse to be there just for riding whenever. He's probably going to need someone that wants a good friend and he will be an extremely faithful and loyal one I think. I hope he gets that in his life and hope to see you working him with the cows. I've enjoyed watching his journey.
Ton of progress
What a nice horse!
Great job, Tim & Robert!
How do you teach a young horse to stand still and not walk off or angle out/spin while being mounted either from the ground or from mounting block?
I think he's a great-minded horse. I've started a few of my own, including my current horse, and they've all been like this. Not a care in the world. They can sit and do nothing for weeks, months, and even years, and the next time you pull them out and climb on they're the same as the last time you rode. Just very accepting, chill horses. Phantom is going to be a horse someone can have fun on.
Thank you for this . Perfectly describes my 3 yr old Arabian filly, who is right at this stage of training, except for the leg all the way over. I expect she will react similarly, too.
As soon as you mentioned keeping his mind occupied I went right to cow work haha. He'd be great with mounted shooting or endurance too I bet
We all need a Robert! Tracey (Australia)
Impressive progress!!!! Great job all 3 of you. Oh and the cat.
What a great video - loved the cat herding!! Tabor City, NC
Great work, both of you! It's been fascinating to watch this horse advance in his training. Did you use the bumpers on one of the days when he wasn't filmed to get him used to things knocking against his sides?
Yes I used them one time and he ignored them.
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i agree about the lunging too i hardly ever lung my mare unless shes super wild if its cold and windy
Most horses (and, dogs) need a job to do. This fella *really* needs a job!
Nice job Robert!
he would be a great endurance horse
I always tie my stirrups together under the horse and run the long lines through them when I drive..easier for me to not tangle the lines. Just me.
There are some big disadvantages to doing it that way.
Such a great first ride!
Tim....that cat loves you!!
They why does he keep eating my shoe strings? Lol.
Because he wants your attention & affection. The minute you get on a horse in the arena I just know that cat is going to show up for a photo-bomb. What is his name, anyway? By the way, you really have some beautiful & big horses in training right now, like the huge Tennessee Walker and the striking dark bodied horse with the light colored mane & tail...... What color do you call that? Anyway, thank you for the videos..... They are interesting & informative and even at my grandma age there are still many things to learn!
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my horses dentist said the same thing about my mare how intelligent she is that she gets things so quick , but then when i ride her she imposses her will on me like if she wants to head back she will, now ive been letting her then i work her there and then when i go forward relaxed she is then more OK TO BE AGREEABLE TO MY CHOICES
oh please just one bite.
Nice job. Good horse!
Is he kissing and clucking like you do to get forward movement? I don't hear it but maybe he's not liked up like you. He did great!
Thanks!
Thank you
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he picks stuff up rather quickly
This is the type of arabian I'm use to..think they know and get bored..your right about with this type it's easy to push beyond in training than what should..I have found that you may have to say NO this what we are doing and you will pay attention..I know you say don't pick a fight..its not picking a fight its dealing with a attention and leadership issue..he's fearless and thinks he should lead.. not dealing with it will come bk and bit ya..he's smart but then thinks he knows it and doesn't need to listen..bad combo smart and thinks he's the man..just watch him
Are the reins hooked to the halter or snaffle this first ride? Forgive me if I missed that, if you already stated it during the video.
Halter.
Do you ever drive from the bridle?
How do you work through his being mentally past that portion of training before he is ready to move on? Do you just move on to keep his mind focused?
I'll have to figure out what works best for him. I might move on then come back to it or I might add a dynamic like an obstacle. The second way is how I'd prefer to do it.
My filly is a bit ADHD and tells me she needs to switch it up on after we’ve done one thing for a bit of time. (For example ground driving started great, but after the 5th time doing it she started to perform worse.) So I backed off of it and took a few days where I’d “just” lead her through the woods through mud & over branches. Something new and different. Then coming back to ground driving we could make forward progress again… It’s like her mind just needs a little break here and there. Interestingly, she is also extremely unflappable about new stuff. It’s the old stuff that she’s having to learn to be patient with.
I think the ADHD horse can learn to tolerate routine, but it’s an acquired skill. My filly is a bit ADHD and tells me she needs to switch it up on after we’ve done one thing for a bit of time. (For example ground driving started great, but after the 5th time doing it she started to perform worse.) So I back off and find something new to do with her brain… not a more complicated task but a different one. In the ground driving example I took a few days where I “just” led her into the woods through mud & over branches. Then coming back to ground driving we could make forward progress again… It’s like her mind just needs a little break here and there. Interestingly, she is also extremely unflappable about new stuff. It’s the old stuff that she’s learning to be patient with.
I’m worried that she’ll be a jack of all trades but a master of none. But I think it will just take time to get there. Hopefully she’ll be a heck of an all arounder by the time she’s 5. Fingers crossed.
Hi Tim! Great work as always, thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and insight.
I have a question concerning your decision to not pony him on Bob before his first ride. Is this because some horses are candidates for ponying and others are not before the first ride and how can you tell the difference?
Thank you
Good question. All horses can be ponied. My decision not to pony him was based on just time. Ponying would have used about 2 training days and thought he would ride off fine without it.
@@timandersonhorsetraining okay thank you for sharing the reason with me :)
When do you start engaging the bit..days, weeks?
When they understand the pull
.... Wait, are you saying he has ADHD? 😂
He does look amazing, and very challenging! 💖
Based on his mind, would he make a good police horse? I know that is not his future. This is pure curiosity about the mindset needed to be a working horse and better understanding the 'ideal fit' for a horse like him.
For a police horse I like a horse more like Bob.
Thank you.
he definitely will take to the cows
Why not ride bitless less pain
They need to learn. Somewhere down the line someone will use a bit. You don't want to cause a problem by leaving a hole in the foundation.
The fact that you imply that bits cause pain says that you don't understand bits. You should fill in that hole in your knowledge about bits.