I loved the part where Thomas Wayne tells her that Bruce followed in his fathers footsteps and she ask if he is a doctor. He says no and her face is like oh no. One of the best moments in comics.
I'm sure this was mentioned by now, but it shows Selina saying to Jim, "You never had kids, did you?" He says, "or a wife, time kinda got away from me". So, that's the answer to Barbra's whereabouts. She was never born. Love the channel, man.
it depends on which "era" for lack of a better term you go by. originally Barbara was written as Jims Niece and later adopted daughter, but after some reboots like the Crises (plural of Crisis, just so you know I didnt misspell it) and stuff she has been his biological daughter.
Lately you've been doing a lot of stories I actually care about....maybe it's because I mostly like dc and only like a few marvel characters (like moon knight)
I loved everything about flashpoint, I think character changes are glossed over to a degree partially simply to the fact that every aspect of history was changed. I understood as i saw it that billy batson for example NOT growing up with superman to idolize made him not as "pure" and thus it took multiple children to form Shazam, similar situation to no Barbara gordon.
actually he said awhile ago that he has editors make some of the visuals for his video's, so the editor probably put that frame in because they saw the answer but rob couldn't change the audio.
Blake Staggs wait a minute, wasn't Barbara Gordon adopted from Jim's brother or sister? I thought she was originally his niece that he adopted after her parents died.
I would argue Superman is actually the Jesus of DC. Man who's both human and alien and has two fathers and uses his power/gifts to save man kind through self sacrifice.
Hey Rob. Love your channel. Thank you! What I wanted to say was about Barbara Gordon. You said that you didn't really know what happen to her just a couple panels after Commissioner explained he never got married, never had kids. Thanks again! You're awesome!
I wish you could have mentioned that the reason that Martha snapped at the end which led to her death, was Thomas admitting to her that, even in a world where she & Thomas died and Bruce "lived", Bruce still "died" and became a Batman. That Bruce never had a normal life, and would presumably meet a sad end (such as the stories from "Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader?" talked about). That Martha killed herself because even in a "better world" where her son lived, her son still died and became, what she perceived to be, an empty shell of who he used to be, a shell of who he could have become.
It was cool to hear about the stand alone batman flashpoint comic. Didn't know it was out there. I thought it was just the flashpoint comic by itself. So thanks for sharing that. I'd be interested to hear the other characters back stories.
Rob, to answer your question about where Barbra is, look at 13:25 right in this video. Seline asks Gorden "You never had kids, did you?" And Gorden explains that no, that in time timeline he never got around to having a wife, so no Daughter.
Thanks for covering this! I wasn't a big fan of 52 but I LOVE the flash point. I thought it was highly dynamic and showed DC characters in a lot of ways we'd never seen them before. Ways that were so raw. I think this was in part because it wasn't expected to be a long lasting issue for those characters to be established in, however, because of that I feel like they didn't hold back within how they portrayed characters.
that was badass rob. i loved the going further into the spinoff of flash point instead of just doing flashpoint i saw the cartoon on netflix but it didnt go into that detail with Martha as the joker i hope ya do more!!!
I've commented 3 times already and it's because this storyline was so amazing to me. PLEASE dive into cyborg's origin as well as why Diana and aquaman are at war.
One of the things I loved about Flashpoint, is it seems to be the start of Cyborg being a part of the justice league, something I think he was long overdue for
Geoff loves Cyborg. it's prominent in his Teen Titans run. No surprise he would make him the iconic American hero in this world and then carry that over to Justice League.
It kills me cause barry's parents orginally lived a very long life. we saw this before barry sacrifice. then they created the reverse flash during wally west run. and then he killed them.
this was a good video. I think you covered a lot of the main points and important details. a few things were missing, however, like how thomas owns all the crime in gotham, the status of others like harvey dent, bullock, and montoya, and, most importantly, how martha only runs off because thomas tells her that bruce becomes batman. despite those missing details, I still enjoyed the video. thanks!
Wow!!!! Yeah, Rob...I'd definitely like to see more from the Flashpoint Universe. I just read Flashpoint and saw the DC animated movie, but never read the tie-ins. I'd like for you to continue this.
Spencer Conway you're absolutely right and I hate it when people comment on something and they really don't know what they're talking about they just State their opinion and assume it to be fact without checking the source material
She lost it when Thomas told her that their son follows in the footsteps of his father. "He becomes a doctor?" NO "OH GOD!" Martha really hates batman, yet her name is the one thing that prevents him from killing people apparently. "WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME!?"👿
SoLa Stranded I was talking to my friends about that scene. Do you think she started to run because she was thinking my son is batman he doesn't have a normal life or because my son is batman and I'm the joker and he would be trying to stop the very thing I am?
mcinnisj100 The first one lol. Definitely the first one. I think she just hated the fact that the one thing that she cared about, so much that the loss of him drove her insane, would grow to be the same thing she blames...his father...The Batman. A vigilante.
This is an exceptional story and blending The FLASH's first Flashpoint issue with the three issue miniseries for Thomas Wayne's BATMAN was a perfect choice for this video.
Great video again Rob, lovin it! You should most definitely cover the character origins from the Flashpoint U as well as the main arc. I know thats a lot of work but it would be awesome. Im a sucker for ANYTHING Bat related so naturally i loved Thomas and Martha's story from Flashpoint. Wish DC would have released the Flashpoint animated movie in different parts, to cover more of the info left out of the movie, great movie, just missing alot. Rob i never hear you talk about the DC or Marvel animated movies, do you like them at all?
Wow I'm surprised at how loyal the Flashpoint Paradox movie was. Yes I'd love to see more of this, Flashpoint is a very interesting take on the DC universe.
You left out the reason Martha Wayne's insanity kicked back in: Martha asks what will happen to their orphaned son. Thomas replies that he will be like his father. Martha asks if this means Bruce will become a doctor. Thomas says no and Martha realizes to her horror that their son will become Batman.
Rob, Barbera doesnt exist, at least not in any way that matters. Jim commented in that first panel with Selina that he *never had the time to have a wife or kids* . That's a fairly big thing to miss for having shown it on screen. To be fair though it was just a throwaway comment in that one panel.
LordUzaki I think it was told good how it was. I think more detail would have ruined it they gave enough detail that was needed and left the rest to our imagination. I love when they do that. I think that's one of the things ruining comics is that they have to explain everything instead of just leaving it how it is
wow this story is amazing I've loved the Flashpoint moive they did a few years back but it's cool to see the original story with more depth and explanation the whole dynamic of the Flashpoint timeline and how everyone was effect was something I always wanted to see more of and in greater detail please cover more of this rob
It would be awesome if you did a series of videos comparing the characters of the 616 marvel universe to the character of the 1610 (ultimate) universe, like comparing the Avengers to the Ultimates and so on.
hey Rob. Please do the entire Flashpoint. It seems intriguing. especially the thomas and Martha Wayne stories. Scared the shit out of me. Please make this happen. I realize it will likely make a 3 hour video but it will be sooo great and EPIC.
FYI people there is also an animated movie about this story. it covers the events pretty well but some are missing. Still worth a watch if you liked the comics.
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I loved the part where Thomas Wayne tells her that Bruce followed in his fathers footsteps and she ask if he is a doctor. He says no and her face is like oh no. One of the best moments in comics.
Flashpoint Universe finally showing everyone how badass Aquaman could be.
Yes
Max Power aqua man is so shit he should be named seamen
boi you just watched south park didnt you
Scorpionruler5 I'd did
and you just stole their joke
I'm sure this was mentioned by now, but it shows Selina saying to Jim, "You never had kids, did you?" He says, "or a wife, time kinda got away from me". So, that's the answer to Barbra's whereabouts. She was never born. Love the channel, man.
13:26 it's the panel we're introduced to Selina Kyle
Thomas Wayne is the best part of this series.
Obviously
Also the best part of the movie
Thomas Wayne is dead dumb fuc....shot in an alley after a Wayne movie night
@@robbcampbell7441 did you watch the video?
@@robbcampbell7441 not here, moron!!!
In Flashpoint universe Jim Gordan never got married or had kids. It was on a panel in the video.
Oh it's mentioned that Barbra Gordon does not exist since Gordon did not marry due to his being busy with helping Gotham
The Maker but Barbara is hes niece right
it depends on which "era" for lack of a better term you go by. originally Barbara was written as Jims Niece and later adopted daughter, but after some reboots like the Crises (plural of Crisis, just so you know I didnt misspell it) and stuff she has been his biological daughter.
yeah he even showed a page in this vid where selena is talking to gordon and he says he doesnt have kids.
This was great. I'm anxious to see how you cover wonder woman and aquaman's past and what caused the angst between them. I love these backstories
Lately you've been doing a lot of stories I actually care about....maybe it's because I mostly like dc and only like a few marvel characters (like moon knight)
Amiradi Coolisa who the hell is moon knight
never heard of moon knight lol
Amiradi Coolisa iron man is the best character in marvel in my opinion
Moon Knight is by far my favorite character
+Radiant Fighter Reading prior to 2000 would suggest otherwise.
I loved everything about flashpoint, I think character changes are glossed over to a degree partially simply to the fact that every aspect of history was changed. I understood as i saw it that billy batson for example NOT growing up with superman to idolize made him not as "pure" and thus it took multiple children to form Shazam, similar situation to no Barbara gordon.
@comicsexplained 13:25 jim says to catwomen he never got married or had kids
Blake Staggs l
It's right there in his own vid lol. Maybe he's testing to make sure we're paying attention.
IDK maybe.
actually he said awhile ago that he has editors make some of the visuals for his video's, so the editor probably put that frame in because they saw the answer but rob couldn't change the audio.
Blake Staggs wait a minute, wasn't Barbara Gordon adopted from Jim's brother or sister? I thought she was originally his niece that he adopted after her parents died.
The Flash is DC's jesus, long live the fastest man alive
barry can walk/run on water, jesus confirmed
-_-
no...
I would argue Superman is actually the Jesus of DC. Man who's both human and alien and has two fathers and uses his power/gifts to save man kind through self sacrifice.
david volosen depending on what superman ur talking about tho. i kind of consider superman god and flash jesus. makes more sense power wise. 👌🏾
sike fam I'm not really referring to their powers, just to their stories.
One of my favorite stories in recent memory
Hey Rob. Love your channel. Thank you! What I wanted to say was about Barbara Gordon. You said that you didn't really know what happen to her just a couple panels after Commissioner explained he never got married, never had kids. Thanks again! You're awesome!
I wish you could have mentioned that the reason that Martha snapped at the end which led to her death, was Thomas admitting to her that, even in a world where she & Thomas died and Bruce "lived", Bruce still "died" and became a Batman. That Bruce never had a normal life, and would presumably meet a sad end (such as the stories from "Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader?" talked about).
That Martha killed herself because even in a "better world" where her son lived, her son still died and became, what she perceived to be, an empty shell of who he used to be, a shell of who he could have become.
I have a feeling that Heath Ledger's joker had a big influence in Martha Wayne's design in flashpoint cause looking at her I thought of Nolan's Joker
This is defiantly dark but for the most part understandable reaction to the lost of a child in that particular way.
Loved the presentation
The story was really sad and really good. I prefer you continue.
I read FP years ago. This is a nice refresher. Thanx.
So what I wanna do here, it took me a week to realize he said that in every video
I'm loving the in depth covering of Flashpoint.
I would enjoy more flashpoint coverage. It's a great story and getting more in depth discussion is always interesting in these alternate realities
It was cool to hear about the stand alone batman flashpoint comic. Didn't know it was out there. I thought it was just the flashpoint comic by itself. So thanks for sharing that. I'd be interested to hear the other characters back stories.
This story was and is one of my all time favourites. Such an awesome spin on the iconic Batman/Joker mythos.
this actually got my eyes watery... so sad
Wow!!! Damn!!! That's a CRAAAZY ass story.. I LIKE IT!!!!
Yeah, this is a good and proper alternate timeline.
Out of all the flashpoint tie-ins, this version of Batman and Joker fascinated me.
I just watched the Flashpoint movie today, so this little coincidence is quite badass. Thanks Rob!!
Awesome video. I was completely enthralled by your storytelling. PLEASE make more and don't just reread the story like some other places. Thanks!
dude this is the most exciting thing i heard in a long time. i look forward to going over the flash point tie ins.
Rob, to answer your question about where Barbra is, look at 13:25 right in this video. Seline asks Gorden "You never had kids, did you?" And Gorden explains that no, that in time timeline he never got around to having a wife, so no Daughter.
Wow, I love this. Digging the theme(s) lately Rob!
I'm so excited that you covered this storyline with the Waynes!!! Thanks!
I can't wait to see more of these! Flashpoint universe is so interesting!
Ever since I saw the cartoon, I've always wanted to know about Thomas Wayne. Thank you.
I might have been a bit inebriated, but dayum, that Thomas Wayne reveal sent some crazy chills down my spine.
I read this story a while back but still watching this video anyway. Rob's recaps are too good.
This is one of my favourite parts of the Flashpoint event. Reading this story for the first time is something I'll remember for the rest of my life.
This Thomas Wayne stuff was really good. How about that Flash Rebirth though? it would be great if you could upload it at godspeed.
I enjoy the pun, but Godspeed, in its actual definition, is another way of saying good luck, not any actual measure of speed.
its the name of the villain in the flash rebirth
araw yes, Im well aware of that. Thats why I said "I enjoy the pun"
apologies i though you were not aware
"Run over Flashpoint"...good one.
Barbara may not have even been born, Jim Gordon mentioned he had never been married.
I saw the movie TV movie and loved it. Good to know the backstory so more videos would be appreciate
I am loving this in depth story of the flashpoint event. Do continue.
Thanks for covering this! I wasn't a big fan of 52 but I LOVE the flash point. I thought it was highly dynamic and showed DC characters in a lot of ways we'd never seen them before. Ways that were so raw. I think this was in part because it wasn't expected to be a long lasting issue for those characters to be established in, however, because of that I feel like they didn't hold back within how they portrayed characters.
that was badass rob. i loved the going further into the spinoff of flash point instead of just doing flashpoint i saw the cartoon on netflix but it didnt go into that detail with Martha as the joker i hope ya do more!!!
Good to see Andy Kubert art again. Haven't seen too much of it since 90's X-Men.
Jim Gordon never had a wife or family so Barbra was never born
G-String it says that at 13:26
seriously man . You always do a awesome job . And unlike the other comic channels you don't have an annoying voice . Keep up the good work man
Excellent work yet again Rob... Best narrator on the net, bro.
I'd luv more vids about the Flashpoint Universe. When I was reading it in real time, I couldn't get enough.
I've commented 3 times already and it's because this storyline was so amazing to me. PLEASE dive into cyborg's origin as well as why Diana and aquaman are at war.
Wow, The Flashpoint Paradox animated film did NOT show the Joker part.
Huh. I remember watching that and thought that was in it. Not actually showing the Joker, just alluding that Mrs. Wayne became the Joker.
One of the things I loved about Flashpoint, is it seems to be the start of Cyborg being a part of the justice league, something I think he was long overdue for
Geoff loves Cyborg. it's prominent in his Teen Titans run. No surprise he would make him the iconic American hero in this world and then carry that over to Justice League.
It kills me cause barry's parents orginally lived a very long life. we saw this before barry sacrifice. then they created the reverse flash during wally west run. and then he killed them.
Gordon states he never got married or had kids.
Correctomundo! And that's why there is no Barbara Gordon acting as Oracle, or Batgirl.
Great video, keep up the flashpoint alternate stories!
this was a good video. I think you covered a lot of the main points and important details. a few things were missing, however, like how thomas owns all the crime in gotham, the status of others like harvey dent, bullock, and montoya, and, most importantly, how martha only runs off because thomas tells her that bruce becomes batman. despite those missing details, I still enjoyed the video. thanks!
Yooo this was very cool. More please!
Wow!!!! Yeah, Rob...I'd definitely like to see more from the Flashpoint Universe.
I just read Flashpoint and saw the DC animated movie, but never read the tie-ins.
I'd like for you to continue this.
I saw the cartoon version of this on Netflix a couple months back. Really a very interesting take on the DC universe.
I enjoyed hearing the specifics about batman. I've always heard about Flashpoint but only the overall story
This is where Heath Leger's got Jokers' inspirational preformance.
Actually, this story was published 3 years after his death.
Spencer Conway you're absolutely right and I hate it when people comment on something and they really don't know what they're talking about they just State their opinion and assume it to be fact without checking the source material
She lost it when Thomas told her that their son follows in the footsteps of his father. "He becomes a doctor?" NO "OH GOD!" Martha really hates batman, yet her name is the one thing that prevents him from killing people apparently. "WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME!?"👿
SoLa Stranded I was talking to my friends about that scene. Do you think she started to run because she was thinking my son is batman he doesn't have a normal life or because my son is batman and I'm the joker and he would be trying to stop the very thing I am?
what
mcinnisj100 The first one lol. Definitely the first one. I think she just hated the fact that the one thing that she cared about, so much that the loss of him drove her insane, would grow to be the same thing she blames...his father...The Batman. A vigilante.
+mcinnisj100 I think that my son is Batman so that means he will eventually die
This was great! A captivating story. Please do more
Please continue...
These are all awesome.
Subscribed, definitely interested in hearing more about the flashpoint universe
Yes talk about anything and everything flash point please! i love flashpoint characters and the altered universe. make more videos :)
Roobb love the D.C content. I listened to your podcast and agree with the loss of interest from Civil War 2
This is an exceptional story and blending The FLASH's first Flashpoint issue with the three issue miniseries for Thomas Wayne's BATMAN was a perfect choice for this video.
Great video again Rob, lovin it! You should most definitely cover the character origins from the Flashpoint U as well as the main arc. I know thats a lot of work but it would be awesome. Im a sucker for ANYTHING Bat related so naturally i loved Thomas and Martha's story from Flashpoint. Wish DC would have released the Flashpoint animated movie in different parts, to cover more of the info left out of the movie, great movie, just missing alot. Rob i never hear you talk about the DC or Marvel animated movies, do you like them at all?
Awesome video as always. Yes please on more Flashpoint, including all the side stories.
Please do more of the tie ins they sound dark as hell...and I like it.
Wow I'm surprised at how loyal the Flashpoint Paradox movie was. Yes I'd love to see more of this, Flashpoint is a very interesting take on the DC universe.
Having these is really cool to me as I've only seen the Flashpoint movie.
Going back and listening to this I have to say how fkn AWKWARD Rob sounds being serious! I got my ring man, nothing but but love! 🤣
but but
You left out the reason Martha Wayne's insanity kicked back in: Martha asks what will happen to their orphaned son. Thomas replies that he will be like his father. Martha asks if this means Bruce will become a doctor. Thomas says no and Martha realizes to her horror that their son will become Batman.
Rob, Barbera doesnt exist, at least not in any way that matters. Jim commented in that first panel with Selina that he *never had the time to have a wife or kids* . That's a fairly big thing to miss for having shown it on screen. To be fair though it was just a throwaway comment in that one panel.
I'd love to hear more about Superman's arc, his was probably the most interesting to me
Great job man!!! I love your work!
Dude your gonna learn me on all the comics!
I feel as though the story was rushed. had they been given more time I feel as though you could create a rlly interesting story from this dynamic
LordUzaki I think it was told good how it was. I think more detail would have ruined it they gave enough detail that was needed and left the rest to our imagination. I love when they do that. I think that's one of the things ruining comics is that they have to explain everything instead of just leaving it how it is
Martha Wayne: “Now I see the funny side. Now I’m always smiling!”
Martha Wayne is the Joker.CLASSIC
wow this story is amazing I've loved the Flashpoint moive they did a few years back but it's cool to see the original story with more depth and explanation the whole dynamic of the Flashpoint timeline and how everyone was effect was something I always wanted to see more of and in greater detail please cover more of this rob
13:29 Selina says to Jim Gordon "You never had kids did you" Barbara Gordon was never born
Thomas Wayne should have been the Batman in Batman vs Superman , Thomas Wayne for the win.
I don't know about Thomas Wayne for the win, but a cool fight idea none the less
I love it keep up the good work rob!
This was excellent as usual
It would be awesome if you did a series of videos comparing the characters of the 616 marvel universe to the character of the 1610 (ultimate) universe, like comparing the Avengers to the Ultimates and so on.
J-bomb Williams that would be a great video
Yes!
Please do all the characters and the world of the Flashpoint
Love this more than the original continuity.
the Flashpoin event is the best man ! continum to make this videos ! :)
Definitely should do more of the tie-ins
This is very interesting. They should make a movie about all this flashy pointy stuff. They can call it "The Paradox of Pointflash".
I love flashpoint and have always been curious about the other changes to the characters in the story
Thanks Rob~ Can't wait for more~~
hey Rob. Please do the entire Flashpoint. It seems intriguing. especially the thomas and Martha Wayne stories. Scared the shit out of me. Please make this happen. I realize it will likely make a 3 hour video but it will be sooo great and EPIC.
this is one of the only alternative reality stories I like
it actually said that time got away from Jim Gordon and he never got married that means he never had a kid which means no Barbara Gordon
As far as flashpoint goes I say go for it rob
I would love to hear more about the Flashpoint universe. I watched the animated film, but was always curious about the details.
FYI people there is also an animated movie about this story. it covers the events pretty well but some are missing. Still worth a watch if you liked the comics.
No shit Sherlock
I just read this comic, The Flash is amazing, I love the timelines