A week with Ilford Delta 3200. Not as grainy as they say! What's your combo?
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
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Well I have had some fun this week shooting ILFORD DELTA 3200 in various lighting conditions, at various speeds and using Ilford ID11 and Microphen.
I think this film would definitely make good street photos but it comes at a price when you look at the cost of HP5 and Fomapan films.
Is it worth it? It's nice!
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EQUIPMENT USED IN THIS VIDEO
CAMERA - Nikon F5, Leica MP
FILM - Ilford Delta 3200
DEVELOPER - ID11/Microphen
STOP & FIX - Water/FOTOSPEED
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PRODUCTION GEAR
CANON 6D, GOPRO 7 BLACK, Gopro 10 Black, TASCAM DR10L MIC, SENHEISSER SHOTGUN MIC,
NEEWER LED PANELS, GVM COLOUR PANELS, Valoi 360 Film Holder System for scanes, Zeapon Micro 2 Motor Slider,
Editing - FCP, PHOTOSHOP, LIGHTROOM,
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All your shots look (as always) wonderful. Never stressed over grain. It's *character!*
So true!
Best content for film lovers on the tube...cheers from the states 🇺🇲
Hey mate! Love your channel too!
This is such a helpful video. It's been a good while since I have shot any b&w film, as I've dedicated my time solely to colour.
With my photography being via my bedside setup, this type of versatile film would be ideal. Thank you for the video.
I really like the gritty look you get with sharp grainy images. It can make landscapes look very moody. Good stuff !
Cheers Edward.
It's my favorite film stock in medium format. Rated at 1600 and developed for 1600 in DDX or HC110. Nice grain, very pleasing.
I have developed a roll of hp5 shot at 1600 in rodinal, grain the size of golfballs and punchy contrast, it looked awesome. The cost of film now at £10 a roll is getting a touch too expensive especially if I want to experiment with a different film stock.
Thanks! Very clear examples. I have some 120 rolls in the freezer, and I’ll try them out at box speed in ID 11. Apparently, you can get great results in bad weather. You’re British and therefore I know that when you say the sun comes out occasionally, for me this means an overcast dreary day with no shadows to speak of. 😉. No use trying colour film.
Surprisingly good looking photographs despite the grain. I need to try this film stock out.
I've developed Delta 3200 in ID-11, rated at iso 3200... And it came out fine... Used it for some wedding pictures... Also love the 120 format... Have fun!!!
I’ve come to appreciate your channel and wading through all the previous vids. I especially like you pinhole work. High quality.
I appreciate that!
The tones and grain are beautiful. Great job, Boss!
Thanks mate ☺️
See you tried the Matrix metering, I normally go out shooting with medium format and a Nikon FM plus a spot meter. After trying matrix mitering in my F4 I purchase a Nikon FA. Now my bulky spot meter stays home and I depend on the FA's meter for tough situations. It does a better job for me then taking several reading and averaging.
Yeah just if I have a sky in the scene I need to adjust such as the tree shots
The grain reminds me of a sports news paper from back in the day. A pretty nice film stock that I've never seen before.
I've always been tempted by night photography, but never got decent results. I aso tried tmax3200 but sent it a lab and came way to grainy.
Now that I saw you photograph in various conditions, made me want to try delta3200 as I'm developing my own film.
I enjoyed very much the video. Keep them coming
Cheers
Timely video! I've just recently picked up some D 3200 in 135 and 120 and also some Microphen. Been wanting to try this combo out. Great to see your results!...😀
My two favorites - shoot at 1600, DD-X (1+9) stand for 45 minutes, or more recently, shot at 1600, Black White and Green (1+100) for 30 minutes, zone 4-ish for the shadows for both, 20-21C-ish for the development. Both these options tame the grain and yield nice sharp and flat negatives for scanning/printing. I've been really working to master this new BWG stuff - it's basically xtol in an HC syrup format, and I'm *loving* it.
Cheers Jeremy.!
"I'm up on the Downs" haha, love it. I've just picked a roll of this up, even though I know I shouldn't probably have, being so new to film photography. Will be interesting to see the results
Thats the only way to learn a film. Shoot it and see what happens and then change the process to your taste. Good luck :)
I was amazed how great the grain looked in the microphen developer. Always hard to be very sure with the youtube compression but I hate obvious grain and I could be pleased with those images. You got some nice shots. I will give this film a whirl snd maybe use xtol 1:1.
Microphen it is an Amazing developer for general use
Well, I really like that grainy effect. Would love to see more!
I tried Rodinal with it. Grain like marbles.
I thought as much
Really interesting with the pushed film in Microphone 🙂
Got a couple of rolls of 3200 to do some shots at night but haven't been going out doing any night time pics!!! Been rainy and dull the last few days and we're expecting a week or so of this, so I may go out and do some shots around town.
Beautiful images definitely mircofen is the way to go I have some in my fridge not used it yet seems very flexible it wouldn’t be my every day film but definitely worth having in your armoury
Such a great film. I ve been using it only 120 on 645 mamiya format wit xtol and was amazing.
Ilford Delta 3200 with Rodinal 1:25 love it ❤️
Gotta try this!
I love this film, it's pleasantly grainy. On one occasion I tested the Canon A1 and since it was a rainy day I decided to load the A1 with this film, only when I inserted the film into the camera I've realized that the Canon A1 has an ISO setting of only up to 1250 ISO! I thought: what the hell, I'll try this. The photos turned out great 🙂
I think you need some glasses mate, Canon A1 iso goes to 12800 🤣
As Asmoc says. I don't have the A1 nice camera
@@Asmoc23 Yes, I need glasses, I'm old 😊
But I'm glad I made this mistake, the photos were great 😊
I find this film to have huge variations of grain depending on light levels and developer. Finest grain for me is Ilford DDX developer, film shot outdoors in daylight. Shot in low light and developed in Rodinal the grain is the size of marbles. Great video, thanks 👍
I have not tried DDX but if that works then awesome! I thought as much from Rodinal. Might have to try that though!
Some great shots and nicely developed as well. Respect. Sometimes I am afraid that you forget to breath while talking ... and for the Rodinal: it is best from 25 to 200 ASA, after that I would highly recommend fx39 and for the Delta 3200 as you did Microphen or Ilfotec DDX ... always good light and don't forget to breathe, pls.
Interesting. I think I'll throw some of this into my old metal Russian HorizonT swing lens camera.
It is a bit limited on the speeds it can shoot, but I think this would open up a bit opportunity to use it, particularly indoor shots.....I love panos and this might just be the ticket for me to shoot more of them with that old battle tank of a camera.
Cool results!!! I have only ever shot it in 120, so more grain was never an issue ... n=maybe i should try it in 135!!!
i recognize those trees .....
I knew you would mate LOL
As many I find the film grainy but in a good way. I have followed the advice to develop for one stop more than the speed I shot it at (ex. shoot at 800 develop at 1600) Still I experience that it is quite low contrast and that I have to tweak it a bit in post.
Good coincidence, after two years only hp5+ I ordered last two rolls Delta 3200 to test them :D
I just shot my first roll and I have to agree it is not nearly as grainy as i thought it would be (kind of hoped for grainier) but I am still happy. I shot it at 1600 ISO
A friend recently shot it at 800 and developed as if it was 1600. He had great results. XTOL 1:1
I've shot a couple rolls of this and have liked the images I got., grainy, but in a nice way. I used Ilfotec LC29 and Ilford rapid fixer. like the shots you got there, and none of them look too grainy to me, though I am a bit biased towards liking some grain in my B&W shots.
I haven’t used Delta 3200 in rodinal, but I have used P3200 in it before at a 1+25 dilution with some nice results! I quite liked the grain, and the contrast was really nice too! If you’ve still got a hankering for Delta 3200 after the brick, you should definitely give it a go in rodinal, just to test it out and see what you can do with it!
I shall try half a roll just for my own sake but I can already see golf balls lol
Only joking about the vampires, eh? LOL Looks like you had a lot of fun with this film. Gonna try a roll in my mamyia this summer. Also I might try out the wolfman film for a few noir night shots. As always love your videos! Stay safe and keep the bugs off your lens...LOL Happy shooting mate!
Lol, cheers Rick!
Interesting that developer makes such a difference. I've been using DD-X exclusively for Ilford films for a couple of years now and just love it. Will happily push HP5 to 1600 in DD-X but if I need higher, then it's Delta 3200 all the way. The price is worth the light gathering for me! I wanted to like P3200 but just couldn't get reliable quality results with it, and the grain is fugly compared to Delta 3200 (IMO of course!). Would be interested to hear your views on DD-X at some point. I went Rodinal -> HC110 -> DDX and haven't looked back.
I believe microphen is the powder version of dd-x?
@@peterhambrook3757 I did not know this! Thanks!
Is it? Wow! Didn't know that!!
DDX was my first developer. I believe it's good for 3200
Funny, I had the opposite experience : Tmax 3200 with a smoother grain in DDX compared to Tmax Dev, but the latter has more tonality compared to DDX's tendancy to quickly burn the highlights of anything that's not a Ilford or inherently a flat film. That said Delta 3200 is a "meh" film whatever dev you use : always a disappointment. For the same price I've got way better results pushing Tmax 400 to 3200 in Tmax Dev - but you have to think it more as a slide film than a negative and test dev times to your taste. DDX is amazing with Delta 400 in 120 though. Too bad it's bloody expensive!
I find that film's grain a bit much in 35mm in ddx/xtol but use it when it's necessary. However, I really like it pulled to 800/1000 in xtol for medium format. Does take an absolute age (18mins ) in xtol-r to develop.
Delta 3200 is super nice film, i really wish they made it in 4x5" also. That would be something!
Imagine the cost 🤔
Thanks a lot for sharing! I am not a great fan of Delta 3200. Now I rarely need to shoot at ISO 3200, even when using a red filter. And at ISO 1600 or 800 I find that HP5+ provides at least equal results (even when using DD-X, which is supposed to be the best for Delta films). And at a lower price point, too. -- So no need for Delta 3200.
Does it , I didn't put it next to hp5.
That 6400/Microphen combo is great! I definitely want to give it a try for the full 12:00.
I've got a roll of 3200 on 120 and a few bottles of DD-X. Any thoughts on what to expect from DD-X at stock speed Roger? Anyone else using DD-X?
Great video as always, makes me think.
Ilfotec DDX is on the list as a recommended developer Morris. Here is a link to Ilfords PDF www.ilfordphoto.com/amfile/file/download/file/1913/product/682/
Thank you again for a really great video ! I need to try a “faster” BLACK AND WHITE FILM in January of 2023. I will photograph my 2 grandchildren as outdoor portraits. This is. winter in Canada when outdoors IS NOT VERY BRIGHT and overcast. I will use 120 medium format with my Pentax 67 ii. It will be an F 2.8 lens. I do not know if there is a difference between Kodak and Ilford. Should I “pull” the film at 800 or 1200 ? OR should I use “box speed” at 3200 ? Does anyone have any advice for me ?? RS. Ontario Canada
So for portrait you want to shoot at a minimum 1/60th (and your grandchildren will have to be very still!) 3200 is fine to use. You will get grain and a contrast. If you can get less speed at 800 and still be at f2.8 and at least 1/60th then you'd get less grain and less contrast. (Developer choice is a factor also)
Nice photos. Have you used a yellow filter for increased contrast as you shoot with black and white film?
I never do to be honest, unless it's a hazy day and I'm land or seascaping. I know some don't leave home without it.
Great video, Roger. I wonder how that film would process in Ilfosol 3 ?
Supposed to be a good Dev for it I read. I never used that one Ken
Just discovered your channel while researching solarization and am very glad to have found you! I've been shooting in a rural hospital in India for a project, but the question I have is this: For the most part I've been using Ilford3200, but when I was coming over from the US I completely forgot to have them hand-check the film. I haven't shot in over a decade and I just... flubbed it, lol. Cue fears of fog, but what can you do? I shot through those 20 rolls and have since sourced the film in India which, theoretically, should not be fogged. My question is: how noticeable is the difference going to be between the two batches? Any advance advice you can give me would be appreciated. Just want to know how disappointed I should be (heh) and also if it's going to be necessary to try and duplicate shots as best I can if they're going to be unusable.
Thanks for the work you do! Am looking forward to exploring the rest of your videos. :)
I've heard the higher ISO film, 3200, are the worst kind for X-RAY problems. If you google it you can see images of the effect it causes. Hope yours escaped!
I hope mine escaped too! I've searched on google for the effect and I must be doing it wrong because I keep getting images OF fog. Will keep looking! Thanks for your response. :)@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss
Been hooked on your videos.. tell me something. What do you scan your pictures with?
I use the Valoi 360 advance system and my DSLR. With a 50mm lens and extension tube to get close. Iso 100 f16 and speed normally around half a second ish... And a 70-200 lens hood to stop flare. And a light panel
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I have some outdated 3200 in depths of fridge -- I wonder how it would come out using my Home-Made '510-Pyro' Staining Developer ? PS -- anyone wishing to help THIS OLD SOLDIER Film Bloke with a 'Brick' ?>?
Hey Pete!! I emailed you mate.
if is not grainy you shoot it wrong ;)