Ever wondered what a fretless electric guitar sounds like??

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  • @NotABand
    @NotABand Před 8 lety +6092

    It probably sounds like a guitar without frets on it.

  • @jasoncollins5949
    @jasoncollins5949 Před 7 lety +2365

    Would it be possible to do a demonstration of the guitar without any distortion?

    • @marpsr
      @marpsr Před 7 lety +170

      Jason Collins the eternal question

    • @jasoncollins5949
      @jasoncollins5949 Před 7 lety +152

      marpsr I can only assume they aren't to proud of how it sounds clean, understandably to, seeing as it must be near impossible to play in tune.

    • @marpsr
      @marpsr Před 7 lety +47

      I just assumed it's because that's what so many people do anyways. They can be played in tune by a skilled player such as Adrian Belew. Check King Crimson/Man With An Open Heart.

    • @jasoncollins5949
      @jasoncollins5949 Před 7 lety +31

      Thanks for the reference, the effect of the fret-less guitar is much easier to hear in that; it sounded like there was even some skilled micro-tonal melody in there.

    • @aibrainlet8041
      @aibrainlet8041 Před 7 lety +5

      the puppet lol wat his tone sounds like straight butt

  • @vito3533
    @vito3533 Před 4 lety +159

    How To : Eliminate Fret Buzz

  • @jimmyjam9014
    @jimmyjam9014 Před 8 lety +1034

    make a fretted violin xD

    • @Joe-hl2ts
      @Joe-hl2ts Před 5 lety +37

      violins sound shit anyway, no point adding frets

    • @richardb7315
      @richardb7315 Před 5 lety +162

      Joe I take offense as a violinist

    • @lily-vt8ic
      @lily-vt8ic Před 5 lety +119

      As ling ling i do not approve of this idea, practice 40 hours and you dont need frets for guitar or violin

    • @OrdinaryLatvian
      @OrdinaryLatvian Před 5 lety +5

      Check out Wood Violins.

    • @artwizardsam3238
      @artwizardsam3238 Před 5 lety +14

      @@lily-vt8ic Fellow TwoSetViolin follower!

  • @senorangelrubio
    @senorangelrubio Před 8 lety +2296

    actually this is what a distortion pedal sounds like...

    • @z1lla4
      @z1lla4 Před 8 lety +3

      no you don't

    • @explosu
      @explosu Před 8 lety +3

      when? [Aw, you edited it to make sense :(]

    • @MrFoxrolls
      @MrFoxrolls Před 8 lety +5

      Was just about to say the same ! Bet it would sound terrible clean !!

    • @mannymarc24
      @mannymarc24 Před 8 lety +14

      hahahahaha! ; D

    • @mfb5642
      @mfb5642 Před 7 lety +4

      It's actually what gain on a tube amp sounds like. CHapman barely uses pedals.

  • @MetalJesusRocks
    @MetalJesusRocks Před 9 lety +332

    I could really see somebody like Steve Vai just going nuts with this guitar! Sounds cool and I bet it's fun to play \m/

    • @tarellmorris4121
      @tarellmorris4121 Před 9 lety +2

      MetalJesusRocks MetalJesus!

    • @nationalgord
      @nationalgord Před 9 lety

      +MetalJesusRocks Hey Metaljesus! How have you been?

    • @mcFreaki
      @mcFreaki Před 9 lety

      +MetalJesusRocks yeah, looks like a new experience... i got a cheap guitar with dodgy frets i might see if i can get it done at some point if i can afford it

    • @zackburke4808
      @zackburke4808 Před 9 lety

      Never get anything cheap in this guitar playing unless you want to upgrade

    • @tombruce54
      @tombruce54 Před 9 lety +5

      +MetalJesusRocks I think I remember Steve Vai using a guitar with 4 necks one of which was fretless.

  • @MrWolf154
    @MrWolf154 Před 7 lety +1717

    This guitar poses no fret..

    • @sundigest1121
      @sundigest1121 Před 7 lety +17

      MrWolf154 get out

    • @MrWolf154
      @MrWolf154 Před 7 lety +107

      Rayene Boussetta are you frettening me?

    • @Deebz270
      @Deebz270 Před 7 lety +16

      Don't fret MrWolf154, he's just a sad and plastic nut.

    • @georgethomson6387
      @georgethomson6387 Před 7 lety +5

      MrWolf154 very witty 😁😀😂

    • @jts400hp
      @jts400hp Před 7 lety +10

      MrWolf154
      You shouldn't fret it...

  • @MrLBDude
    @MrLBDude Před 6 lety +169

    I am essentially still wondering what a fretless electric guitar sounds like.

    • @Zero14u
      @Zero14u Před 4 lety +5

      Sounds like a regular guitar

    • @neophytosdm
      @neophytosdm Před 2 lety

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  • @OrmTostesson
    @OrmTostesson Před 8 lety +92

    Seems like I will just have to keep wondering...

  • @BradAngove
    @BradAngove Před 9 lety +100

    Soooo, I'm probably the only one idiotic enough to suggest this, but I have to say it. Scalloped fretless guitar.

    • @GlennMichaelThompson
      @GlennMichaelThompson Před 9 lety +1

      That topic's been discussed. Read comments below. :0)

    • @BradAngove
      @BradAngove Před 9 lety +1

      Thank you.

    • @GlennMichaelThompson
      @GlennMichaelThompson Před 9 lety

      No problem Brad. I left some other links for websites about fretless guitars spread around the comments, you may enjoy checking them out as well.

    • @tomsfruitstand6821
      @tomsfruitstand6821 Před 9 lety

      ***** I've done it with my strat, and i found it easier not to bend the string, but to slide the string from side to side.

    • @tomsfruitstand6821
      @tomsfruitstand6821 Před 9 lety

      ***** No, slide your fingers up and down the neck it makes a cool sound instead of bending.

  • @livesmalldreambig
    @livesmalldreambig Před 8 lety +375

    Imperial milk drinker. The Nords are the true sons of Skyrim!

    • @PsychoticPillowCase
      @PsychoticPillowCase Před 8 lety +26

      I wonder if there's a mod that changes the bards ukulele to a 9 string electric and they djent with it

    • @palehorseoftheapocalypse4366
      @palehorseoftheapocalypse4366 Před 8 lety +23

      First off, just because I'm OCD as fuck sometimes, it's a lute. But second off...
      Beware, beware, the dragonborn.... *bass drops* *COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMES*

    • @davecrupel2817
      @davecrupel2817 Před 7 lety +10

      Super Smash Diaz Bros. All hail mighty Talos!\o/

    • @cometastral
      @cometastral Před 7 lety +8

      Super Smash Diaz Bros. That moment when you're an Imperial by race, but a Nord by questline.

    • @mythixthedragon6903
      @mythixthedragon6903 Před 7 lety +5

      5 hours of walking as a Dark Elf in Windhelm

  • @Nate_ROB_
    @Nate_ROB_ Před 7 lety +578

    this is hilarious because i dont care at all what it sounds like with distortion. i just wanted to know what it sounded like clean and they didn't play clean for even a second.

    • @moo.7643
      @moo.7643 Před 5 lety +6

      its his intonation, fretless instruments require pinpoint accuracy

    • @goktugduran6548
      @goktugduran6548 Před 5 lety +3

      czcams.com/video/Uc4CZxqhCJc/video.html I think fretless is more effective with microtones, this is an amazing song, there is fretless solo guitar clean and drive was played creator of fretless guitar Erkan Oğur, from Turkey.

    • @JedShura
      @JedShura Před 5 lety

      Here's an unplugged version... czcams.com/video/fsRvvszVOSg/video.html

    • @geraldhenrickson7472
      @geraldhenrickson7472 Před 4 lety +1

      Clean? What is...clean? Oh wait...CLEAN! Ok...now I remember.

    • @AndersonPalma95
      @AndersonPalma95 Před 3 lety

      2:19

  • @GlennMichaelThompson
    @GlennMichaelThompson Před 9 lety +43

    I was bored one day in the mid 80's and decided to pull the frets out of an old Ovation Breadwinner that I'd stripped the white paint off of. Carefully filled the fret slots with some strips of walnut... been playing fretless guitar on & off for close to 30yrs now. You have to use flatwound strings if you don't want to chew up the fingerboard. Also I read since the walnut strips aren't as dense as the original fret tangs it's best to tune it to a lower pitch than concert, otherwise there's too much compression and the neck will bow quickly. I'll go as low as a low C on the 6th string with thicker strings (.013-.056). An alternative is to just file the frets until they're flat to the fingerboard (not my preference). Or as some bass players do (i.e. Jaco); put epoxy on the fingerboard to use round wound strings. With some practice your pitch will get better. One disadvantage is that you're typical chord shapes will become somewhat limited.... but it forces you into new harmonic(chord) directions as well. it's worth having the exotic sound of a fretless imho.

    • @nwimpney
      @nwimpney Před 9 lety

      filing the frets won't work well at all. the tangs have barbs in them, so there will be gaps where the barb has compressed the wood, etc.
      I defretted an old bass guitar, and I did it by pulling the frets, filling the slots with bondo (overfilled a bit), and sanding it back smooth with a radius block I made (using the neck as a form, before the bondo). I then painted on several coats of CA (super glue), and wet sanded it up to 2000 grit. It's not going to be quite as durable as epoxy, but it's pretty tough, and much cheaper and easier to apply. You can't use cheap epoxy, btw, but conventional CA glue seems to work just great. (I used loctite brand)
      Also, I was shooting for something (very) vaguely like the sound of a stand up bass, so I got some nylon wrapped strings (rotosound 88). I quite like them, and they're much easier on the board as well.

    • @nwimpney
      @nwimpney Před 9 lety

      also, your fretboard shouldn't need to contribute that much to keeping your neck straight... That's what the trussrod is for. ;)

    • @GlennMichaelThompson
      @GlennMichaelThompson Před 9 lety +1

      nwimpney Filling the frets has worked well for me. Every luthier I know offers this option when converting to fretless.
      I didn't go into every detail in my comment. A couple of the things I didn't mention.... I glued the walnut in and helped fill the space mixing the glue (super glue for wood) with sawdust to fill any spaces left by the barbs.. and put more of the glue in w/ a syringe. I also sanded the fingerboard with a wood block of the same radius (after having carefully sliced most of the excess hardwood with my wood carving tools). I've tried the black tape/nylon wound strings, still use them from time to time. But I like the thicker steel strings for a different tone. And they sound better on this instrument tuned down usually 1/2 to a whole step. Sometimes lower for more of that bass tone you're talking about. I kept it tuned to concert pitch for the first 18 to 20 years, without any neck problems other than more truss adjustment than it used to need. Drastic weather changes where I live too. But I was also using an .010 on the high E. I got the idea of tuning lower in the last 8 to 10 years... mostly because of listening to John Stowell playing fretless guitar and using lower tunings. I had read an article by Dan Erlewine about tuning lower if you're using wooden inserts, so I thought it prudent to mention. Annnd,,, the neck on my guitar is incredibly thin (for me). But 30 years and it still plays fine! Take care.

    • @nwimpney
      @nwimpney Před 9 lety

      I meant filing (with a file), as in cutting them down with a file, leaving the tangs in the slot. I think that's really ugly, and a bad way to do it. Filling the slots, yes. :)
      Honestly, I think one would be better off just leaving the slots empty than leaving the rough fret tangs in the slots. A lot of fret slots are cut with a very slight V at the top too, to better clear the usually-imperfect corner between the tang and the bottom of the fret, so that'll leave an exposed rough edge if it's just filed/sanded off.
      I think the wood inserts needing you to tune lower is probably insignificant on anything with a reasonable truss rod. With a very slim neck, you might notice, and have to give the rod a slight tweak. With a beefier neck, I doubt you would even see a difference.
      If you have a weird neck with a non adjustable, or non-existant rod, I might be worried about bowing, but otherwise I wouldn't sweat it.
      That's not to say there isn't some merit to down tuning, either. I actually noticed that my short scale bass has an interesting tone, due to the lower tension on the strings. Contrary to what I've heard a lot of people suggest, I've found that I get a much heavier, chunkier sound on a short scale and/or lighter strings. Playing down-tuned on a normal long-scale is probably going to give you the same chunkyness at a lower pitch. Heavier gauge and longer scale lengths seem to be a bit brighter and more piano-like in comparison.

    • @durazoom
      @durazoom Před 9 lety +2

      The question is why?

  • @StricklandAssistantManager
    @StricklandAssistantManager Před 9 lety +486

    I'd love to see this guitar plugged into the Hatsune Miku pedal.

  • @MassProduced
    @MassProduced Před 7 lety +169

    I mean it sounds like a guitar with distortion.

  • @HimanXK
    @HimanXK Před 6 lety +8

    "So you could play your chords, and then you could *woahaaaazabueagh* on the lead"

  • @mopheadthe3rd
    @mopheadthe3rd Před 8 lety +290

    Chapman guitars should make a headless guitar and call it the Chapstick.....budum tssss

  • @invisusmachina
    @invisusmachina Před 9 lety +51

    Give it to Guthrie, he'll make that baby sing.

    • @Rose.Of.Hizaki
      @Rose.Of.Hizaki Před 9 lety +7

      Or Seasick Steve for that matter. Both of them are utterly amazing!

    • @SRNF
      @SRNF Před 9 lety

      True he wasn't really utilizing the fretless at all. Kinda wanted a showcase of that rather than his traditional showboating quick runs. (Not that i don't enjoy those but not really relevant on a fretless demo)

  • @LeninVieira
    @LeninVieira Před 7 lety +766

    Play some chords without distortion, man. It is not that hard

    • @TheRugFace
      @TheRugFace Před 6 lety +60

      kind of is on a fretless

    • @notzelda1236
      @notzelda1236 Před 6 lety +50

      Agreed everyone uses distortion way to much

    • @geetarislife2843
      @geetarislife2843 Před 6 lety +39

      Not to sound like a jerk but on a fretless the note dies almost instantly without any distortion, at least it does on a wood fretboard

    • @moddim
      @moddim Před 6 lety +5

      geetar is life this man is right, orchestral instruments have sustain with bows. We have to use drive and distortion to get sustain

    • @slimjimdumplings
      @slimjimdumplings Před 6 lety

      LordPolitoed yes! Finnaly

  • @Stavrhs
    @Stavrhs Před 4 lety +3

    Dat Skyrim shirt made me emotional

  • @TheKaappari
    @TheKaappari Před 9 lety +34

    For anybody wanting to do this, make sure that you do slides instead of bends whenever possible if you want to preserve the fret board. Especially softer finger boards will get pretty chewed up from playing, but you can coat it with epoxy to increase the durability. Epoxy also makes the notes sound more glassy than a wood board.

    • @KillSwitch66627
      @KillSwitch66627 Před 9 lety

      This is whats happening to my frettless bass, scratch marks from bends. Thanks for the epoxy tip.

    • @cocobro9762
      @cocobro9762 Před 9 lety +2

      KillSwitch66627 on a bass you're supposed to use flat wound strings

    • @TheKaappari
      @TheKaappari Před 9 lety +2

      ***** No. If you like the sound of rounds you should use rounds.

    • @cocobro9762
      @cocobro9762 Před 9 lety +5

      No, if you like round wounds you should buy a fretted bass

    • @nwimpney
      @nwimpney Před 9 lety +2

      KillSwitch66627
      You can also use superglue. It's not as tough as epoxy, but the right kind of epoxy is $$$. You can't use the 5 minute stuff from the hardware store because it'll turn yellow and weak from light, etc.
      Not sure if youtube will eat imgur links, but imgur.com/mXrdv7V is a pic of my superglue job on my bass neck, wet sanded to 2000 grit IIRC. I did it a while ago, so I don't remember exact details, but I think I just painted on a few coats (use a brush, not paper towels. It can catch fire!) then sanded it smooth, repeat until shiny. :) It's ordinary loctite brand super glue. I think I went through about 2 bottles.

  • @danielakerman8241
    @danielakerman8241 Před 9 lety +42

    I love how they say "It's not in tune." The truth is they are not PLAYING in tune. Not a problem with the guitar. The problem is they aren't used to having to stop the string in precisely the right spot to play the pitch spot on, because the frets do that for you and take the work out of it. Playing fretless is NOT EASY. Ask any classical string player.

    • @nwimpney
      @nwimpney Před 9 lety +2

      well, they probably need to check the tuning and intonation. The intonation is probably _way_ off unless they lowered the nut most of the way to the fretboard.
      They're not playing it well, either, but the setup is definitely important, even on a fretless.

    • @djosephj
      @djosephj Před 9 lety +1

      I find playing fretless way easier. I started on cello though. Frets make noise and fretmarks on the neck are more confusing than a clean neck IMO.

    • @totallynotascam2805
      @totallynotascam2805 Před 9 lety

      Me being a classical string player (Violin, Cello, and Piano (Because Pianos are also classical stringed instruments), I have to say playing fretless is actually pretty easy. You just have to memorize the spots. You can start with putting tapes where the pitch spot is, and then after a while, take them off.

    • @GlennMichaelThompson
      @GlennMichaelThompson Před 9 lety +5

      I don't think they actually understand how to approach a fretless guitar. Their stock licks and runs won't work. If you've never played a fretless before, start off slowly and make sure your fingers are where they need to be to hit correct pitches. These guys don't even tune the instrument. They're in a music store, surely there's a tuner around! This video does NOT show you how a fretless guitar sounds. The title is a misnomer.

    • @erlannderrantem6972
      @erlannderrantem6972 Před 9 lety +2

      I understand it this that they're saying its out of tune what they are playing and didn't mean the guitar. The could've tuned this instantly s. I think they actually meant their own playing.

  • @AprendizdeLuthier
    @AprendizdeLuthier Před 7 lety +279

    What about the sustain? Is it possible to play "long notes" like Gary Moore? I think fretless is more related to bass guitar.

    • @kuratr
      @kuratr Před 6 lety +18

      Maybe not on a neck made completely out of wood like this one but check out Vigier Excalibur Fretless Guitar on youtube. Its fretboard is made entirely out of metal from top to bottom so it should have a pretty decent sustain. Kinda like having an infinite number of frets

    • @topsecret1837
      @topsecret1837 Před 6 lety +1

      EnigmaBlue
      That’s really easy to get. The cello could be used as a way to practice playing w/o frets . In addition, by bowing it one has infinite sustain AT THE VOLUME you start with , with option to change it at any point by pressing down or lightening your grip on the bow. Bow pressure, which cellists use to keep a consistent sound for long durations and at high volume, is definitely something you can’t do with an Ebow which uses laser technology, not physical contact.

  • @therealzilch
    @therealzilch Před 7 lety +395

    This is not what a fretless guitar can sound like. It's what a fretless guitar sounds like played as though it had frets, with lots of distortion to boot. Not informative.

    • @venomousb9470
      @venomousb9470 Před 7 lety +43

      Regardless, it's still a fret-less guitar. Why assume it's supposed to be informative? It doesn't say it anywhere in the title. It even says in the description "This is a totally spontaneous & pointless video!".

    • @albinoethiopian3
      @albinoethiopian3 Před 6 lety +1

      Look up "Consider the Source"... the guitar player has a 2 neck guitar, one of which is fretless

    • @chrisiliopoulos1371
      @chrisiliopoulos1371 Před 6 lety +3

      Fuck you

    • @Oper8r999
      @Oper8r999 Před 6 lety +1

      Not only that, but in non standard drop tuning - this is not an improvement. Why on earth did you not use standard tuning and actually play something instead of noodling around out of key?

    • @fidrewe99
      @fidrewe99 Před 5 lety +1

      Distortion doesn't hide a deviations from just intonation IMO, but it exposes them, because the subtones and beats that are created with distortion are much more sensitive to the tuning than the undistorted notes.

  • @TheKingBJ
    @TheKingBJ Před 9 lety +145

    I wan't to hear a scalloped fretless guitar now

    • @burny6666
      @burny6666 Před 9 lety +3

      AnotherGuyOnCZcams hum...you do understand that these would be impossible?

    • @TheKingBJ
      @TheKingBJ Před 9 lety +80

      Congratz, you got the joke.

    • @thymenooijevaar
      @thymenooijevaar Před 9 lety +3

      burny6666 not really, some medieval string instruments actually worked this way

    • @beatles7798
      @beatles7798 Před 9 lety +10

      An apostrophe on want? Really???

    • @schnitzel438
      @schnitzel438 Před 9 lety

      +beatles7798 *wan't

  • @liamwade6333
    @liamwade6333 Před 9 lety +141

    Is that guitar tuned to drop Q?

  • @masonhancock4117
    @masonhancock4117 Před 3 lety +3

    Looks to me like Rob was visiting the booger sugar in this vid

  • @ultimatum1895
    @ultimatum1895 Před 7 lety +18

    I can't believe how fucking easy he makes it look. it's soooooo uncomfortable playing one of these for the first time, but it is goddamn fun trying

  • @AimlessMoto
    @AimlessMoto Před 9 lety +205

    Congrats. Sounds like garbage.

    • @randomfingerboard
      @randomfingerboard Před 9 lety +12

      Problem because the guitars low end and... chapman isn't a fret less player

    • @helios5868
      @helios5868 Před 9 lety +3

      AimlessMoto It's, frankly, a completely different instrument.

    • @TheRuoka
      @TheRuoka Před 9 lety +1

      AimlessMoto Its not even on tune you dumbass :D

    • @getnaenaed99
      @getnaenaed99 Před 9 lety +16

      Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man

    • @JeffEllsworth
      @JeffEllsworth Před 9 lety +1

      TheRuoka IN tune you dumbass :D

  • @MrBasilion
    @MrBasilion Před 9 lety +41

    As a violin player, I would love to play a fretless guitar

    • @josephrivas4762
      @josephrivas4762 Před 9 lety +1

      I make all my instruments myself (mostly 1,2 or 3 string... Things) and I never fret any of them, they work good enough for what I do.

    • @michaeltownsly1493
      @michaeltownsly1493 Před 9 lety

      Joseph rivas Haha, they sound really fucking useless to be honest.

    • @josephrivas4762
      @josephrivas4762 Před 9 lety +1

      Michael Townsly they're the disposable forks and spoons of the instrument world, they're use cases are limited and they fall apart but hey, when your broke you take what you can get.

    • @GlennMichaelThompson
      @GlennMichaelThompson Před 9 lety

      Give it a try. You'd probably catch on quick. Check out these sites for more info if you like: www.unfretted.com/loader.php?LINK=main
      fretlessguitarlessons.com/en/ They're good places to start anyhow...

    • @PeterDad60
      @PeterDad60 Před 9 lety +1

      You can purchase a fretless classical guitar made in Germany. It's not a special item at all. Something around $250 can get you one.

  • @oliver-ic8sj
    @oliver-ic8sj Před 4 lety

    just wanted to say im revisiting the channel for the first time in 5 years or so, this was my childhood
    thankyou

  • @dyslexicsoap7605
    @dyslexicsoap7605 Před 7 lety +13

    Damn, I imagine sliding on it feels awesome

  • @D34DPOND
    @D34DPOND Před 8 lety +233

    I swear Rob had a Skyrim shirt on

  • @gazm2k5
    @gazm2k5 Před 8 lety +297

    This is what it's like to work in a guitar store.

    • @daywar13
      @daywar13 Před 8 lety +93

      gazm2k5 this is what it's like to own your own guitar company lol

    • @101AOK
      @101AOK Před 5 lety +1

      I worked at Guitar Center...you're preaching to the choir. You don't work at G.C. you suffer.

    • @estebanb7166
      @estebanb7166 Před 5 lety +1

      Poor baby.

  • @Wanderlyeu
    @Wanderlyeu Před 8 lety +27

    sounds like the mad max guitar

  • @peter9910
    @peter9910 Před 2 lety

    I love the way Rob plays the exact same thing every time

  • @cpamiseso
    @cpamiseso Před 9 lety +495

    Guthrie did it, with Vigier, several years back. where were you?

    • @RobChappers
      @RobChappers  Před 9 lety +873

      Jamming with Guthrie... where were you?

    • @Djarra
      @Djarra Před 9 lety +38

      Vigier have been making the fretless guitars since '89, long before Guthrie. The first big name to use a fretless guitar (a defretted strat) was Zappa in the mid to late 70's. This was then disseminated to his pupils with Below, Vai and others carrying it over. Vai used fretless on the Roth album and a fretless seven on Passion and Warfare.
      A lot of Jazz players use fretless guitars as well to get a more gypsy feel as you can get closer to fretless oud's and so on.
      The main problem with a steel strung fretless is that if you for get an bend one of the unwound strings it can snap back and really hurt. This seems to be compunded by the metal fingerboard on the Vigier.

    • @Nino.ElectricSoul
      @Nino.ElectricSoul Před 9 lety +70

      Rob Chapman get reckt kid ooooooh MLG

    • @InvisibleYetVisible
      @InvisibleYetVisible Před 9 lety +16

      Rob Chapman Sure you were Rob, sure you were..... Ron Thal does some excellent fretless playing though, certainly worth listening to.

    • @keithreeder
      @keithreeder Před 9 lety +5

      Steve Vai has RECORDED fretless - years ago.

  • @Yesh77777
    @Yesh77777 Před 8 lety +55

    sounds like sat morning at guitar center. cool vid.

  • @djenter2
    @djenter2 Před 6 lety

    That was by far the best video of yours, pure fun, randomness and enjoyment came from your artsy self

  • @Seth_Benjamin
    @Seth_Benjamin Před 5 lety +1

    I love this channel! Helps me consider guitars I’ll probably never buy! It’s still fun to watch the banter.

  • @Barrygee
    @Barrygee Před 9 lety +32

    Crimson Guitars for your Custom guitar needs....I have no doubt that Ben Crowe would figure out your 'ghost fret' idea

    • @ElvianEmpire
      @ElvianEmpire Před 9 lety

      At what price though, haha.

    • @Barrygee
      @Barrygee Před 9 lety +3

      I meant as a consultation for the ghost fret idea...they may be able to think of a better manufacturing method ......of course getting a custom hand made guitar would be an expensive option...having said that a custom hand made guitar at £3,000 will get you a far better instrument than spending the same on something like a Gibson

    • @Chuggsbigman
      @Chuggsbigman Před 9 lety +5

      Amazing luthier with tons of talent.

    • @Barrygee
      @Barrygee Před 9 lety +1

      Absolutely, I've been watching his stuff for ages now....his guitars look incredible.....id love to visit his workshop sometime

    • @DaltonHallett
      @DaltonHallett Před 9 lety +1

      theres tons of other extremely talented luthiers out there.

  • @burny6666
    @burny6666 Před 9 lety +17

    I laughed when he played the Sweet Child O Mine intro. I've been playing guitar for 20+ years, and it's still the first riff I play when I pick up a guitar.

    • @Rapturo_to_YESHUA
      @Rapturo_to_YESHUA Před 9 lety

      burny6666 Yeah, and I laughed at the other guys reaction. :)

    • @shethinksimironman
      @shethinksimironman Před 8 lety

      for me its a bit compulsive, whenever I touch a guitar, I have a sudden urge to play Sweet Child Of Mine

    • @shethinksimironman
      @shethinksimironman Před 8 lety

      +V10 FSI o' mine*

  • @even200x
    @even200x Před 7 lety

    These guys are totally my kind of crew. Peace's shredders.

  • @kallura1453
    @kallura1453 Před 6 lety +34

    Sounds like distortion.

  • @aDotFromTheFuture
    @aDotFromTheFuture Před 9 lety +788

    Why the hell has it become some kind of a shitty trend to use distortion, when giving an example of how a guitar sounds?! I mean seriously, play it without any effects so we can hear what the guitar ACTUALLY sounds like. Pretty much any video about how a particular guitar sounds, the person playing it has the distortion cranked all the way up... bloody annoying.

    • @aDotFromTheFuture
      @aDotFromTheFuture Před 9 lety +156

      Aaron-Christopher Hogan So criticism is not allowed these days?

    • @AndrewStewart_Hell_Yeah
      @AndrewStewart_Hell_Yeah Před 9 lety +37

      +aDotFromTheFuture He's criticizing the criticism genius

    • @aDotFromTheFuture
      @aDotFromTheFuture Před 9 lety +87

      Andrew Stewart How the hell was that criticism? The first part was an insult, and the second part was just utterly pointless, i.e. not criticism.

    • @fastandfurry9513
      @fastandfurry9513 Před 9 lety +2

      +aDotFromTheFuture nope. I feel you bro. and about Aaron yes...oh the Irony

    • @AndrewStewart_Hell_Yeah
      @AndrewStewart_Hell_Yeah Před 9 lety +10

      Nobody is going to play a boss ass guitar like that clean... He's just being realistic.

  • @Ribsletics
    @Ribsletics Před 8 lety +189

    He needs those frets back.

  • @Ericdawg420
    @Ericdawg420 Před 4 lety +1

    3:35 you know a guitar is made for you when your tidy rest right on top. Lol

  • @vt750sevans
    @vt750sevans Před 4 lety +1

    You guys are awesome. Funny and relaxed. Good work.

  • @matthew65536
    @matthew65536 Před 8 lety +39

    Is it me or does it sound like the distortion is too high

    • @phasseman
      @phasseman Před 8 lety

      it might be a little fizzy

    • @LukeyPooky
      @LukeyPooky Před 8 lety

      The feedback was insane, lol. Similar sound to the one time I turned up the gain all the way on my amp, and then plugged in a boss distortion pedal and decided to max it out.

  • @MostLikelyMortal
    @MostLikelyMortal Před 9 lety +58

    Everyone saying Govan is the only guy that can actually play a fretless. They'd be right. I really wish more people took the time to figure it out though, the rock industry would be forever changed (and probably slightly out of tune)

    • @TheSkipjack95
      @TheSkipjack95 Před 9 lety +9

      Bumblefoot ( Ron Thal ) is also famous for using one ( Vigier sutom double neck )

    • @TheSkipjack95
      @TheSkipjack95 Před 9 lety +11

      ***** Yes but the musicianship in classical music is far higher to most rock bands.

    • @MrAntihumanism
      @MrAntihumanism Před 9 lety +1

      Tom Fountainhead plays a fretless almost exclusively.

    • @aquabot
      @aquabot Před 9 lety +1

      MrAntihumanism David Fiuczynski plays one too.

    • @finnwerfse7807
      @finnwerfse7807 Před 9 lety +1

      Fretless would probably now be a norm for rock because your average rock guy would not be capable of playing in tune. I think it should be left to your above average rock guys and to jazz guys and such.

  • @GliffeRox
    @GliffeRox Před 7 lety

    that actually sounds pretty clean

  • @Budder99
    @Budder99 Před 3 lety +1

    Just what I needed reminding of 6 years later when things are a bit shit

  • @RandomGuitarist96
    @RandomGuitarist96 Před 9 lety +4

    Sounds really cool, I love the way Guthrie Govan uses them too!

  • @somkit9102
    @somkit9102 Před 8 lety +24

    Stick with frets. Not you personally, but for anybody concerned about control. No matter how precise one's fingers get, an actual fret is more precise. There will be unintended off-notes. Just my opinion though, I'm sure some appreciate the distinct sound.

    • @Preussenpenner
      @Preussenpenner Před 8 lety

      Ever heard of Tom Geldschläger aka Fountainhead? He has perfect pitch and plays like a supernatural being.

    • @somkit9102
      @somkit9102 Před 8 lety +2

      WhiteSaucage Scar Never heard of him, but I did just check him out. He's quite amazing actually. But I would not say his pitch is perfect. It is extremely accurate but listening for it, I could hear slight off pitch on occasion. Now, I'm not complaining. I was quite impressed actually, but he uses the lack of the fret's precision to his advantage, perhaps by making transitions smoother. I guess what I'm saying is that if one requires absolute precision, one should use frets. Otherwise, it can still sound great without, as in Fountainhead, and I'm sure others too.

    • @Preussenpenner
      @Preussenpenner Před 8 lety +1

      Yeah I prefer fretted instruments aswell, fretless is just a novelty and a great challenge, it also helps with hand posture :)

    • @somkit9102
      @somkit9102 Před 8 lety

      GW Bits There's no need. Violins don't have frets.

    • @somkit9102
      @somkit9102 Před 8 lety

      GW Bits But the same cannot be said for a fretless guitar. Nobody needs to put frets on a guitar, but there must be a reason that guitars have virtually always had frets throughout its history. The evolution of musical instruments seems to match fretless with bows, and frets with strumming or picking. Of course, the stand up bass is an exception, because it really does sound cool without frets. :)

  • @ellleigh1216
    @ellleigh1216 Před 11 měsíci

    I miss these classic days ❤️

  • @tomborden1624
    @tomborden1624 Před 3 lety +2

    Underscores how brilliant Jaco Pastorious and his fretless bass were...cach the documentary, Jaco, free on Tubi

  • @franciscoanaya8881
    @franciscoanaya8881 Před 8 lety +467

    am i the only one that kinda hates the intro?

    • @LetScope
      @LetScope Před 8 lety +14

      i do as well, way to long and annoying

    • @suhailmushtaq5444
      @suhailmushtaq5444 Před 8 lety +7

      i hate that too and its overly loud...

    • @Jerryleedlelee
      @Jerryleedlelee Před 8 lety +19

      Its when I know a video is cancerous, I don't normally look at the uploaders name on a video so ill just click on it. when this abomination of an intro comes on I immediately close the tab

    • @fx9731
      @fx9731 Před 8 lety +14

      Yea, just fuck the intro, skip randomly to like 2:00 minute mark. End of worry

    • @conradfincher8876
      @conradfincher8876 Před 6 lety

      Yes

  • @Foxayo
    @Foxayo Před 8 lety +117

    Just sounds like a regular guitar out of tune.

    • @W00DSY_0WL
      @W00DSY_0WL Před 8 lety +20

      +Foxayo look up guthrie govan, he actually knows what hes doing when playing

    • @DreamfactoryZero
      @DreamfactoryZero Před 8 lety +4

      +Foxayo he said it was out of tune when he was playing it.

    • @jeffstatz7815
      @jeffstatz7815 Před 6 lety +2

      What the fuck did you expect? Sounds of a harmonica?

  • @randyheath8566
    @randyheath8566 Před 3 lety +1

    That was Weird, Rob was gone and then he was back 😳

  • @TheGoldenKaren
    @TheGoldenKaren Před 8 lety +10

    that's crazy. I was just thinking about what it would sound like it he played Sweet Child O mine and he played the intro! Ahh!

  • @nikitacondy
    @nikitacondy Před 9 lety +184

    Only Guthrie Govan can play that thing right, otherwise it's just a fun toy, not a musical instrument, IMHO. I'll stick with slide on my pinky.

    • @AstralElephantFuzz
      @AstralElephantFuzz Před 9 lety +45

      Bumblefoot can also manage himself with one.

    • @WeIsDaTyrantz
      @WeIsDaTyrantz Před 9 lety +13

      Andy Birger And also Fountainhead, the new guitarist for Obscura.

    • @Preussenpenner
      @Preussenpenner Před 9 lety +6

      WeIsDaTyrantz Obscura

    • @Shad0wBalrog
      @Shad0wBalrog Před 9 lety +5

      steve vai did a tune with a double neck, and one of the necks was fretless.

    • @AxenFrite
      @AxenFrite Před 9 lety +52

      Nonsense.
      I have a fretless and now when I play a normal guitar, it gets frustrating how these little metal bars are hindering my expression.
      Why would a violin or a cello be an instrument but not a fretless guitar? _Just_ 'cause of the rounded neck?
      An old bucket can be a musical instrument.
      My fretless definitely is a musical instrument and it makes sounds your guitar can't.
      These guys have not been practicing for years on one.
      There are so many cool things you can do, like droning while sliding notes around under the drone, doing "bends" that no guitar could do, w/out a tremolo bar (which would also effect the droning note)...and you can't apply a slide just to the b string while other strings ring out.
      And you do artificial harmonics, but can then slide them around and it sounds exactly like a theremin, only way easier to control.

  • @GuitarLessonsBobbyCrispy
    @GuitarLessonsBobbyCrispy Před 9 lety +7

    Wow that's awesome! Can't imagine what it would be like to play a guitar without frets. Must feel weird....

  • @24kRobot
    @24kRobot Před 6 lety

    This is a fun video. A really enjoyed watching you guys having a good time messing around, getting some licks in. Good stuff!

  • @SaschaLeib
    @SaschaLeib Před 8 lety

    I did the same thing once while I was waiting for the new fretwire to arrive. Was fun to play around, but after a while you want your frets back :-)

  • @CoryWhoo
    @CoryWhoo Před 9 lety +5

    Love the Elder Scrolls Shirt

  • @DrSleep00
    @DrSleep00 Před 8 lety +1017

    shame, i was hoping to hear some proper guitar playing not Shredding with over distorted effect

    • @LetScope
      @LetScope Před 8 lety +6

      only heard distortion haha xd

    • @Requnium
      @Requnium Před 8 lety +14

      You should check out Guthrie govan. He has somd lessons for Fret less guitar that you'd be interested in.
      Also check out the aristocrats exotic cakes live. He plays Fret less guitar in that one and sounds absolutely phenomenal.

    • @DrSleep00
      @DrSleep00 Před 8 lety +1

      thanks

    • @JohnDoe-jz7bj
      @JohnDoe-jz7bj Před 8 lety +3

      yeah this is true.. a fretless guitar has a sound of its own, and he doesn't let it come out.

    • @robroy5573
      @robroy5573 Před 8 lety +8

      What's proper to you?....

  • @mattheweastel129
    @mattheweastel129 Před 5 lety +3

    I actually really like some of the sounds of this guitar and love the doomy power chords. Maybe a guitar concept for just a select few of us ;-)

  • @slimmosessixround
    @slimmosessixround Před 6 lety

    That dude has the most "guitar store guy" style ever.

  • @cmhavner
    @cmhavner Před 8 lety +56

    Way to show everyone the versatility! Now we know what it sounds like clean, distorted, in different positions and in multiple genres! More seriously, this video does little to nothing to show what a fretless guitar sounds like. It's a video of a middle aged metal head showing off on a fretless guitar.

    • @greysonmyers449
      @greysonmyers449 Před 8 lety +1

      they really don't care and also btw this was when they had just around 50k subs so it wasnt a very big audience, they never expected this to blow up to almost 2 million hits

    • @Oper8r999
      @Oper8r999 Před 6 lety

      More accurately - a pointless guitar.

  • @TheGreatWhite99
    @TheGreatWhite99 Před 8 lety +38

    That riff at 1:15 sounds very Alter Bridge

    • @imaymakesomevids
      @imaymakesomevids Před 8 lety

      Yeah I always thought dorje sounded a bit like AB

    • @professortusk
      @professortusk Před 8 lety

      If you didn't know, that's from one of the songs by Rob's band Dorje. The song is called Too Weak

    • @christopherjones8367
      @christopherjones8367 Před 7 lety +4

      I thought it was just because I've been listening to The Last Hero non-stop since its release! But you're right.

  • @zonakmahanta
    @zonakmahanta Před 9 měsíci

    It could be bliss for whoever wants to play carnatic music using this...

  • @blafountain
    @blafountain Před 6 lety

    funniest outro to any of your vids lmao

  • @chrismunro9854
    @chrismunro9854 Před 8 lety +9

    it's like a circumsized guitar

  • @AsyrafXXI
    @AsyrafXXI Před 9 lety +7

    That dude reminds me of Jonah Hill in Superbad.

  • @maksszmyd1913
    @maksszmyd1913 Před 7 lety +2

    Rob is rocking that Skyrim shirt!!!!

  • @erinsmith7219
    @erinsmith7219 Před 5 lety

    Wow-what a difference in not having a fretted neck makes in the unbound sounds of the guitar, it's just totally mind-blowing almost frenzied sound!

  • @buedavis
    @buedavis Před 8 lety +10

    love that skyrim shirt

  • @GrulbGL
    @GrulbGL Před 9 lety +3

    guys, i played in one guitar like this from a friend, and the sensation is completely crazy, i mean, ITS CRAZY, normally you feel the frets and the sound scaling with them, but, without them your brain will burn,
    looks like play a HUGE violin (or cello).
    play guitar without frets is something like, ride a motorcicle without helment. (i feel naked)

  • @Balithazzarr
    @Balithazzarr Před 7 lety

    This really demonstrates the importance of frets...

  • @blackburnks1994
    @blackburnks1994 Před 8 lety

    that sounds bad ass guys, nice job guys

  • @scotty
    @scotty Před 9 lety +21

    That thing is cool looking, with a bit of practice that guitar could take you places

    • @burny6666
      @burny6666 Před 9 lety +34

      scotty To go places, I still prefer a car or an airplane. Or maybe sometimes a bike.

    • @2811JPR
      @2811JPR Před 9 lety +2

      burny6666 You sir, are the sarcasm king.

    • @burny6666
      @burny6666 Před 9 lety +12

      Juan Pablo Rivera I think you just dethroned me.

    • @2811JPR
      @2811JPR Před 9 lety +1

      Ouch.

  • @kylesimmons2631
    @kylesimmons2631 Před 9 lety +14

    As a violinist, I don't feel that this would be a huge difference lol. plus, he is vibratoing wrong, it should be sliding up and down the neck, not sideways. And I hope that thing has flatwounds lol.

    • @SiliconBassist
      @SiliconBassist Před 9 lety

      It looks like it has an ebony fingerboard, so I think he could get away with using roundwounds. Jaco Pastorius used them with a rosewood fingerboard, but he would practice on another bass to avoid chewing up the fingerboard. Some fretless bass players use roundwounds because it's easier to get certain sounds with them, but there is some risk of excessive fingerboard wear.

    • @jackegan6784
      @jackegan6784 Před 9 lety +2

      SiliconBassist Modern hard coatings mean it's possible to use round without worrying about wear, Jaco didn't use particularly good epoxy, it was really meant for boats.

    • @insederec
      @insederec Před 9 lety

      SiliconBassist I've got a fretless bass with some kind of faux ebony plasticy kind of stuff. It's really tough and hasn't shown much wear at all over the past two years, and it was made in 2007 and I got it secondhand.

    • @SiliconBassist
      @SiliconBassist Před 9 lety

      *****
      Is it ebonol?

    • @insederec
      @insederec Před 9 lety

      SiliconBassist I think so.

  • @KNakanishi
    @KNakanishi Před 7 lety +66

    Let me just show you this real quick
    (6 and 1/2 hours later...)

  • @umpygoodness2369
    @umpygoodness2369 Před 7 lety

    FRETLESS INSTRUMENTS BROUGHT ME HERE

  • @sf0994
    @sf0994 Před 9 lety +7

    the guy with dreadlocks is very awkward

  • @star2buk
    @star2buk Před 8 lety +5

    I really wanted to hear it clean.

  • @marcelogutierrez6489
    @marcelogutierrez6489 Před 4 lety

    I saw a video of a man playing a fretless electric guitar and used it to play blues and he played it like a normal guitar and like if he was playing with a slide, and sounded like heaven

  • @rageenducedgamers7265
    @rageenducedgamers7265 Před 7 lety

    thank god for frets, this man needs it

  • @patricketurner
    @patricketurner Před 8 lety +9

    Anyway here's wondewall

  • @jonajon91
    @jonajon91 Před 9 lety +39

    Seeing people doing pitch bends and vibrato on a fretless instrument kills me.

    • @TobyBurt
      @TobyBurt Před 9 lety +12

      The very beauty of the electric guitar in all it's guises is that you can do whatever you like on it, fretted or otherwise. Sounds like you need to go back and tell Paganini off for using improper technique on the violin. Yes, it isn't the best technique and can ruin the fretboard but it creates a sound that is unique and outside of what you would expect. I am sure given a few months with the guitar they would alter their technique but time and time again the stuffy classical ideals have proven to be boundaries and limits to creativity.

    • @jonajon91
      @jonajon91 Před 9 lety +2

      The difference is that Paganini knew what he was doing.

    • @TobyBurt
      @TobyBurt Před 9 lety +3

      Jonathan Keeler Two words JK - Metronome, bro. It's also a bit rich that you commented on vibrato when you don't appear to use it ... ever.

    • @jonajon91
      @jonajon91 Před 9 lety +7

      Oh wow, attack the person not the argument. I'm a 'cellist so yes, I can use vibrato, however when i'm just doing youtube covers of 'spawn of possession', you can imagine that it is not my first priority,

    • @TobyBurt
      @TobyBurt Před 9 lety +3

      You can't argue shit when you know nothing about the practical applications man. Go practice, experience life - then come back and rip on every one.

  • @dismahderpface5645
    @dismahderpface5645 Před 7 lety

    What he played is basically all I hear at guitar center any time I go.

  • @vinceq1036
    @vinceq1036 Před 4 lety +1

    Very cool. I like it. Think I'll pull the frets off of my original '59 burst.

  • @dan428
    @dan428 Před 9 lety +25

    they shouldve at least tuned it before demonstrating it.. the low E string was very off tune

    • @MatthewJury
      @MatthewJury Před 9 lety +7

      +dan428 It was in tune, it was just in a different tuning.

    • @MASTERTRAINERMADDOG
      @MASTERTRAINERMADDOG Před 9 lety +10

      +CineManiacs 3:45 "It's not in tune but, it'd be really cool if it was" they said it themselves and again at
      4:16 "It's completely out of tune" perhaps you didn't watch the full video or your idea of it being in tune is completely different from the guys playing in the video. I agree with dan428 though.

    • @56madguy
      @56madguy Před 9 lety +2

      Its in drop A. The guy above is an idiot.

    • @EndlessPandas
      @EndlessPandas Před 8 lety +1

      +56madguy Perfect drop A? Would they want it in drop A? If I wanted to play in drop D and it was in drop C, that's out of tune in my perspective of wanting drop D.

    • @Erowens98
      @Erowens98 Před 8 lety +1

      +dan428 I believe the guy saying it's out of tune is the one who doesn't shred and likes everything standard "The way god intended" This is indeed downtuned so it wasn't really The "E" string anymore

  • @saemikneu
    @saemikneu Před 8 lety +34

    total distortion noise overkill! please try playing it clean so we hear the difference easier.

    • @prodarbour
      @prodarbour Před 8 lety +1

      +saemikneu For real!! sounds like white noise

  • @shyshift
    @shyshift Před 6 lety

    Bartell of California had a fretless guitar back in 1972. I tried one out for a frustrating 3 minutes at Ted Vesley's Guitar in Las Vegas,Nv. In 1980,the jazz group,Kittyhawk also defretted a Les Paul for 3 albums.

  • @jakobcray4182
    @jakobcray4182 Před 5 lety

    1:36 Rob did us dirty lmao

  • @MRgamer016
    @MRgamer016 Před 8 lety +12

    is that how doom metal is made

  • @dominicknepper2082
    @dominicknepper2082 Před 9 lety +3

    "This is what a fretless guitar sounds like," if you're really, really good.

  • @Richardgreenmusic.
    @Richardgreenmusic. Před 7 lety

    I once knew a guy who owned a Gibson Frettless Wonder. Was a very cool and unique guitar.

  • @travisguide4516
    @travisguide4516 Před 6 lety

    Rob losing himself in fretless drop a is hilarious