Raising my FTP Power with my favourite 4x8min Intervals😰
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- čas přidán 15. 04. 2021
- Oooff! A tough one! The goal of slightly over threshold workouts is to extend high power over greater durations. By riding only slightly above my current FTP, I could become accustomed - both physically and mentally - to a workload just beyond my current sustainable reach. So I am on the ragged edge with these. It ain’t pretty, but I’m right on that borderline of becoming too caught up in the effort, breathing is hard but not uncontrolled. It was the last effort that really got me in this workout because I’m already fatigued going in to it. Have you tried a session like this before?
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Possibly the best video you've done. Small insights into your workouts like this are really beneficial. Thanks.
I really like hearing you talk about your training:)
Good explanations, thank you - always enjoy seeing the overlaid data as you ride it. Also good comments & replies as always - bonus for not watching the video too soon!
Beautiful view. Big dosen of usefull information. Thanks for the video Ed. Looking forward for more.
Very nice looking climb - enjoyed the insight
Brilliant video Ed, thanks!! This is the exact session I had planned for tomorrow, but the climb I’m doing has a KOM of 8 mins set by the pro’s, so had been wondering all day how I’ll approach it. Hopefully 2 x 15mins will be doable instead 😉 thanks again!!
One of my favourite cyclists with one of my favourite workouts. Nice one Ed!
Mine too!
I’m definitely going to try this. I’ll start at once a week and then add more sessions as I feel more comfortable
Another Insightful video, enjoyed the sun too, seems a million miles away with storm Eunice doing her thing outside.
Cheers Ed. This video inspired me to try this workout today and I managed 5 x 8mins @340w. A nice variation on my normal ftp workouts. 👍👍👍
Niiiice
I love holding consistent power on the trainer just for a pretty graph afterwards. 🤣 I wish the Wahoo could have a similar overlay at the bottom of the screen 😂 I find it quite hard to do outside but that’s probably because of a lack of outdoor miles these days. Definitely spoiled by just being able to jump on the trainer and do a session.
Hope training keeps going well. Would like to see an Ed and Band of Climbers collaboration jersey. Very much like the casual shirt collaborations so far.
Thanks Ethan! Hmmm, what sort of design would we have though😆
@@edlaverack Unfortunately I have the creativity of a bin, would still be interesting to see.
I find keeping your power more steady is to put the reading at 10s average. It crosses out any minor dips and gives me a much clearer picture of how consistent my power is
So when I struggled to do 5 x 8mins @ 110% that is why 😂😂🙂😂🙂 will have to change the session to 105% and build from there.. great vid as always Ed THANKS
Well, they aren’t easy regardless😂
not sure if its mentioned but its not very clear to me, but how long is the rest between the interval effort?
When would one expect to start seeing/feeling the results of doing this kind of intensity. Does it always take a couple of weeks for the body to adapt and get stronger? If hadn't done much intensity recently, would you expect it sooner simply off the basis that the the body and mind get used to it again and re-learn to deal with the lactate build-up?
Ps. Refering to amateur cyclists in general. Probably doesn't apply so much to you. ;)
It could be a case of do this tomorrow and next week you'll feel like a new rider because the punishment of the session will force you to adapt...with adequate recovery of course! But usually a couple of weeks is essentially the rule of thumb because, well, you know, it's multiple sessions that create the change, not just one :)
Curious, the stuff Ive read from Stephen Sieler, he recommends efforts in the 8min range as best for adaptations (VO2 or threshold). Have you read/applied any of Sieler's work to your programs? Thanks.
I’ve been doing these for years, not related to Stephen’s work. You got a link?
I've done 4x 8min with 2 min rest before a lot because there's been som studies done on that format, all above ftp. What's your opinion on short rest vs longer rest? I remember a couple of years ago I was doing them around 305-315w and found I could hold about 305 for the same power for about 30 min effort. More of the same videos please :)
I was using the climb for it so the recovery is 6minutes. Not tried it with shorter recovery. Would have to dig pretty deep for just 2min rest
Hi Ed, just wondering if you consume things like sports gels and bars during these sorts of training sessions, or do you save them for races and bigger rides etc ?
No solids were harmed here, I had 50g in my bottle. The session was just over an hour. I had a large bowl of overnight oats about 2.5hrs before and a coffee about 30min before heading out the door. Tomorrow’s huge ride for example will be different, I’ll be all over the food like a rash
@@edlaverack hahah I see!
When I do efforts I’m happy if I’m within 10 watts of the number I’m aiming for
Done this session yesterday.
Rep 1 comfortable this is going to be easy
Rep 2 and 3 hard but comfortable
Rep 4 where did that come from hanging on for pretty much the whole interval.
Too true!!!
Doing a 3x 20min sweetspot outside tomorrow. First time ever, so curious how things will pan out.
You’ll love it!
14 consecutive of weeks of 2x/wk 10 minute intervals [105%] and the returns have diminished almost to nothing. These things are easier to do when you are making quantifiable progress. Absent that they become a thing to dread.
I struggle to hold anywhere near the same power on the Wattbike vs on a hill climb. Essentially my 5 min hill climb power is my 1 min indoor power.
I wonder if the watt bike is reading the same power as your outdoor power meter
I keep meaning to pop the Assioma DUOs on the bike to check they read the same. That said even on the flat outside I find it really difficult to hold the same power I comfortable can on a climb. Something about being in a little gear spinning like a hamster in a wheel works for me.@@edlaverack
How often are you testing your FTP through training blocks?
I’ve been testing more recently than I usually do this time of year. Reason being that there isn’t any racing, so testing is like racing for me. Plus I’m coming back from time off now so need to make sure the big jumps in FTP don’t catch me out. I’m testing every 4wks if I can but it’s not too rigid.
Guys .. when you do this kind of interval (ftp interval)
You just seated or u can go on the pedals?
Both!
How do you get the data (power, cadence, speed, heart rate) to show on the vid?
Download the .FIT file from strava, download Garmin VIRB edit software, use the footage on the GoPro and magically combine the two!
@@edlaverack ah thank you!
Feather must be doping to beat you 😢
I just did 8x2 min with (2 min rest) @ 121% FTP. I managed to get it done, but it was pretty hard. I REALLY wanted to quit.
Good job my guy!
What software you use to overlay the data?
I still use the Garmin VIRB software
@@edlaverack cheers. Going up Rhigos tomorrow and got a GoPro for it. Will try and get my data overlaid on the video
Your heart rate is so low for these efforts. I feel if I was doing this session mine would be 10-15 beats higher. My max heart rate that I’ve seen is 196bpm , what’s yours ? Also why would my heart rate be so high compared to yours. Not conditioned enough? Need more base?
Try not to compare HR too much, it’s very individual and can depend on fatigue too. Today I was 3 days in to a big training block, so HR was suppressed. I don’t have a high Max, maybe 185 on a fresh day. My HR has never always been this low though, it has a lot to do with my fitness level, my history in the sport, my age and tons of other things🙂
Favourite?! You mad? 😂 Those are the worse 🤮
That’s a good thing, right?🤪😂
@@edlaverack Inspired today planned 3x8 on MTB. Did 3x9@400W+ It is definitely less painful than on trainer 😅Love content on the channel btw!