Cleanup of 26C After Derailment at Collegedale and a Long 369 with Multiple DPUs

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  • čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
  • On Tuesday 26C hit a trailer hauling a concrete bridge beam and derailed three locomotives and several cars taking out the track for several yards at Collegedale, TN. The crew were taken to hospital but are apparently OK. With the short winter days I didn’t have enough time to get their last night so I went up this morning to catch the cleanup. For the second part of the video I was lucky and got some sun. I waited around and caught a very long 369 with two sets of DPUs mid and rear train which is very unusual.

Komentáře • 303

  • @bbrunell111
    @bbrunell111 Před rokem +44

    A lot of fantastic decisions made here to make up for one very bad one. The dedication of the response crews, cleanup efforts, restoration of the line. But I also believe there are a few engineers at General Electric that should be praised here - so impressed that the GE safety cab on the converted Dash-9 withstood a terrible crash and maintained integrity - it is unbelievable. I do wish a speedy recovery, both physically and mentally for that crew.

    • @brickleyyard4966
      @brickleyyard4966 Před rokem +7

      If level crossing where just taken out of the pics would not got problems like this nor would the public have to be victims to it I live in the UK where its not as easy to make for a crossing free network but yet in the last 30 years we have more than half the number of crossings that was previously in operation
      The USA has more space to ues the make 2 3rds of its crossings dissappear and could do a lot more to make the outheres safer
      Just an observation I am sure there meny who will tell me I am wrong and how impossible it is but the cost of this clean up will be more than the cost of a bridge

    • @kathykendall4215
      @kathykendall4215 Před rokem +1

      @@brickleyyard4966 The beam that was hit was for a bridge for that exact purpose -- to create a bridge over the tracks, to avoid accidents like this, and to clear up traffic bottlenecks waiting for trains to pass by.

    • @brickleyyard4966
      @brickleyyard4966 Před rokem +2

      @@kathykendall4215 oh the ironie lol

    • @philjackson1722
      @philjackson1722 Před rokem +2

      @@brickleyyard4966 one reason this government is hell bent on sending trillions of dollars to Ukraine instead of spending on our own infrastructure.

    • @wilbertpinches
      @wilbertpinches Před rokem

      ​@@kathykendall4215 ❤

  • @exelasantiago2440
    @exelasantiago2440 Před rokem +42

    Let's all wish a speedy recovery for the train crew

  • @rrwjes1571
    @rrwjes1571 Před rokem +33

    Incredible when you think of the size and weights involved that this can be cleaned up so fast and the track back on line.

  • @suzylarry1
    @suzylarry1 Před rokem +7

    this could have been so much worst, someone was looking out. The back log of traffic (train traffic) is wild. 369 plus , on one haul. Safety wishes for all working on the clearing . Best wishes to 2 crew on there mend.

  • @torgover-l1n
    @torgover-l1n Před rokem +19

    The fact that the locomotive took so little damage from hitting that reinforced concrete tress is amazing. It's also surprising how fast those steel train tracks were straightened out.

    • @frankhobsonKJ4CDM
      @frankhobsonKJ4CDM Před rokem +2

      He must've been going wide open to jump a creek. 😂

    • @dknowles60
      @dknowles60 Před rokem +2

      @@frankhobsonKJ4CDM not speed of train is 50 mph to save on diesel fuel cost due to mountins and hills in Tn you dont see to many trains over 50 mph

    • @thundercats36
      @thundercats36 Před rokem +4

      Tracks were replaced.

  • @fhowland
    @fhowland Před rokem +12

    Amazing how fast these guys work. Line back open just a few hours later!

  • @harleymemphis9190
    @harleymemphis9190 Před rokem +21

    Great drone footage thank you for the update speedy recovery to those that got hurt 🚂 🚂 🚂

  • @johnniekelly
    @johnniekelly Před rokem +6

    Incredible footage. Thanks for sharing! I've worked on construction jobs there at McKee and know exactly where this is. What a mess. Glad no lives were lost.

  • @RouxsTube
    @RouxsTube Před rokem +12

    amazed at the speed of track replacement and repair ! Good job by the workers ! Great footage btw

  • @TheJagjr4450
    @TheJagjr4450 Před rokem +15

    Color me impressed they got the track back into operations within 48 hours.

    • @igly3542
      @igly3542 Před rokem +4

      I wish we gave them more sick days

  • @rotoryacht
    @rotoryacht Před rokem +6

    Mind blowing how fast the cleanup! Great footage

  • @timkis64
    @timkis64 Před rokem +11

    im sure the engineer & conductor thought "this is it, were dead" about 5 seconds before impact.glad both were ok. for the truck hauling the beam, you would think it wouldve has escorts to alert the driver to all of his surrounding conditions.after all, that IS what escorts are required for.

  • @theplaneimage
    @theplaneimage Před rokem +28

    The amount of reconstruction work done in such a short time scale is just so impressive! .. and also, Great video, Thank you!
    Edit: Love the "About" in your profile 😊

  • @innercityprepper
    @innercityprepper Před rokem +13

    You know what would be cool to watch? A drone-based time-lapse where you could see the scene go from full-on-wreckage to fully cleaned up and cleared out, from the same vantage point.
    The engineering and execution of these rail repair/salvage operations happen so quickly and are super fascinating to watch and think about.

  • @bluecollar3
    @bluecollar3 Před rokem +4

    Excellent coverage , thank you!

  • @gordy4459
    @gordy4459 Před rokem +18

    Brilliant footage...very impressive to see the new track in already...if this had happened here in the UK there would probably have to be a couple of weeks of investigations before any work at all was started!!...

    • @formidable38
      @formidable38 Před rokem +6

      We'd still be wringing our hands and taking photo's of it for atleast 2 weeks here!!🤣

    • @tl50camiva
      @tl50camiva Před rokem +4

      150ft of truck & load wouldn't have just ambled across the tracks in the UK!!!
      This is 2022, the UK learned its lesson with abnormal loads and train crossings in 1968- look up 'Hixon Disaster'

    • @gordy4459
      @gordy4459 Před rokem +3

      @@tl50camiva Just had a read of that one....quite horrific....many thanks for the info....appreciated....

    • @formidable38
      @formidable38 Před rokem +2

      @@tl50camiva Aye, you're dam right there, rules and procedures that are written in blood. Its no fluke that Britain has one of the safest networks in the world.

    • @thekingsilverado3266
      @thekingsilverado3266 Před rokem +1

      The limeys were always big on the BS and hot wind affairs...

  • @emwungarand
    @emwungarand Před rokem +2

    Nice catch of NS 7302. Old SD90 rebuild.

  • @nomenclature9373
    @nomenclature9373 Před rokem +19

    The lead engine's camera footage should be released as an educational safety video on the importance of making sure a vehicle can clear the tracks BEFORE starting the crossing. Clearing being past gates / lights or at an uncontrolled crossing, signs.

    • @noveless
      @noveless Před rokem +8

      There’s also a video of the exact moment the train hit that beam. Unbelievable footage. This reminds me of the Amtrak crash into the dump truck on the tracks in Missouri a few months ago. My opinion is nothing should ever stop on or interfere with track clearance whether signals and arms are activated or not. Keep those tracks clear period.

    • @wccl
      @wccl Před rokem +3

      Those rarely ever get released publicly. The ones that do is because someone video taped it from a crew room on their cell phone or it got sent to someone who sent it to a friend type deal.

    • @christianmadsen7997
      @christianmadsen7997 Před rokem +1

      @@noveless link to Amtrak, please

    • @1957rickster
      @1957rickster Před rokem +3

      Interesting outcome of blame to come. TDOT project: What is their responsibility? GC of project - what is their responsibility? Trucking company getting permit for over size load and given route instructions from TDOT - what is their responsibility? Driver obeying signals gets caught but should of been protected by his permits. NTSB will have their hands full.

    • @davejohnston5925
      @davejohnston5925 Před rokem +4

      @@noveless Since the Semi-tractor needed to make either a left or right turn immediately after crossing the bridge, there could have been oncoming traffic interfering with the tractors continued forward progress... that or, that all important construction site flagger stopped the semi, not realizing they'd hung the semi across the Choo-choo tracks

  • @smo-guiver8315
    @smo-guiver8315 Před rokem +4

    That construction project is about to experience some serious delays - they don't have the part of the bridge structure that is built over the railroad tracks even started yet. The railroad will require safety flagmen that are in communication with the train crews for that - and back at the crossing where they maybe should have had one in the first place.

  • @MrScuba1
    @MrScuba1 Před rokem +16

    The 5 box cars are loaded with rolls of paper to be made into corrugated boxes If they handle them right they can still be used. I worked for Georgia Pacific container for 43 years

    • @TheJagjr4450
      @TheJagjr4450 Před rokem +3

      They will go to Southeastern Paperboard or another job lot converter... We owned and operated a job lot paperboard converting operation from the 1980's - 2010 and did tens of thousands of tons of salvage reclaim paper & board. I got every damaged roll of paper and paperboard from CSX for 5-7 years.

    • @dw.7655
      @dw.7655 Před rokem

      Interesting, NS interchanges in Geneva NY with Finger Lakes Railway. We have a cardboard recycling plant in Solvay. Would be interesting if it came from there.

    • @NSBlack_Stallion
      @NSBlack_Stallion Před rokem

      Thanks. I saw those and was curious.

    • @1978garfield
      @1978garfield Před rokem

      @@NSBlack_Stallion I wonder now much if any of that paper was on its way to become boxes for Fudge Rounds?
      Little Debbie is in Collegedale.

  • @neilcrawford8303
    @neilcrawford8303 Před rokem +5

    I'm impressed at how quickly they've opened up the line again.
    Glad the crew survived okay, and that the beam didn't lift and go through the cab windscreen.
    Stuff of nightmares.
    Looking at the construction site, that bridge beam was so close to its destination.
    As commented elsewhere, in the UK this would have taken a lot longer. Depending on the circumstances, the police could close off the site as it could be down to a criminal act and they want evidence for any future prosecution. Then we have the RAIB, a government body that deals with investigating railway accidents, gathering evidence of what the cause was, then publishing reports with recommendations etc.
    Sometimes debris is taken away and reasembled to find the cause, just like air crash investigators do. Any accident can be a learning tool for preventing a similar situation in the future, be it down to mechanical failure, poor operating procedures, not following the correct methods, complacency etc. One last year involved an oil train, the investigation found it was down to poor maintenance, poor procedures, bad record keeping.
    Also, I don't know if it's the same in the US, but on most of the network there are also wires for operating the signals etc along side the track. In a derailment there's a good chance that it gets damaged to, so adds even more time to the repairs.

    • @modeltrainsandtracks
      @modeltrainsandtracks Před rokem +5

      Did you see around 22.48 in the video that there is a crew there working on getting the new bi-di signal wired in? It's already fitted in place by then - again, good work and good planning.

  • @exelasantiago2440
    @exelasantiago2440 Před rokem +5

    That train that is passing thru by time it arrives at it's destination, the tail end would probably still be passing thru the wreckage

  • @WilliamJohnson-gw2ux
    @WilliamJohnson-gw2ux Před rokem +2

    yes seeing a couple of union pacific engines leading the way and a rare find is that bnsf engine in mix. excellent drone footage.

  • @dougdemaree1963
    @dougdemaree1963 Před rokem +4

    Wreck happened a little after noon and the track was reopened by 8 am the next morning

  • @adampyke4037
    @adampyke4037 Před rokem +6

    You also mentioned the rare configuration of the train you filmed. Our local news reported that the speed limit of the train through that area was going to be limited until after the first of the year until all repairs and cleanup were done. Maybe the extra power was there to ensure more control over such a large train.

    • @HotspotsSoutheast
      @HotspotsSoutheast  Před rokem +6

      They were putting extra power on the end of trains that were taking the detour over to Varnell. In order to access that alternate route trains have to head east towards Knoxville then reverse and head south. So it was necessary to have power on both ends. They may have sent this train on the detour route but then the line was reopened so they didn’t need to detour. The power ended up being surplus.

    • @wccl
      @wccl Před rokem +1

      Looks like combined trains to me to limit interference with m.o.w.

  • @maranathamark
    @maranathamark Před rokem +5

    The train moving through during the video is impressive itself! I wonder just how long it actually is!?

  • @stevenikitas8170
    @stevenikitas8170 Před rokem +8

    The truck was stopped by a red light (probably in a line of traffic) that left it with its load across the tracks. They now are going to have to coordinate the rail crossing gates with the traffic signals, i.e., stop the street traffic at the rail crossing long before the train gets there.

    • @modeltrainsandtracks
      @modeltrainsandtracks Před rokem +2

      Or, when the train is detected (by track circuit) a block or two out then turn all the other road signals to red and the road that crosses the track to green to allow the crossing to clear. I've seen this happen at some crossings in the US so why not all?

    • @itjustlookslikethis
      @itjustlookslikethis Před rokem +6

      Should have had police escort so truck could have gone through the red light.

    • @davemoulton2971
      @davemoulton2971 Před rokem +1

      A railroad rep should have been on scene to make sure unit crossed before train was allowed to pass

    • @heartysteer8752
      @heartysteer8752 Před rokem +4

      There won't be any changes. Stupid people sitting on the tracks at a light has long been an issue. I was taught in driving class not to enter unless I'm sure I can clear it. And it's not just with tracks, around here it's even just in traffic. During rush hours people will block intersections when the light at the next block turns red. It's completely obvious they won't be able to go anywhere yet they pull another 30 feet ahead and block cross traffic.
      In this case with such an unusual load, we'd need to know what the truck driver was told. I'd think if the intersection hadn't been discussed ahead of time, that the driver should have seen the problem and called for police to direct traffic rather than get caught on the tracks

    • @tl50camiva
      @tl50camiva Před rokem +3

      @@itjustlookslikethis Escort & Truck Drivers should've used a bit of common sense and just gone through the red signal!

  • @leeandadaelliott
    @leeandadaelliott Před rokem +9

    The cab protection structure inside the lead locomotive really did its job. Had it not been there, that bridge beam they hit would have totally crushed the cab and most likely killing both crew members.

    • @EMDFAST
      @EMDFAST Před rokem +5

      Not windshield broken …..amazing

    • @heartysteer8752
      @heartysteer8752 Před rokem +2

      Absolutely! Amazing how it could take an impact like that.

  • @iannewberry2549
    @iannewberry2549 Před rokem +4

    So impressive- would have taken weeks to do this in UK

  • @95mushroom
    @95mushroom Před rokem +2

    Loved seeing the sd90 (7302) !! Such a longboi.

  • @davebrown4841
    @davebrown4841 Před rokem +3

    Great footage. Please have more especially the picking of the Engines and cars.

    • @HotspotsSoutheast
      @HotspotsSoutheast  Před rokem +1

      I could not get there in time for that. It’s a 2 hour drive from here and it would have been dark when I got there. Watch my video of the train wreck cleanup at Duluth, GA. I was there for several days shooting that one.

  • @EMDFAST
    @EMDFAST Před rokem +2

    Windshield firts locomotive not broken….amazing

  • @modeltrainsandtracks
    @modeltrainsandtracks Před rokem +2

    I agree with many comments below about how this incident was approached and the very efficient & professional work done by the recovery crew.
    I add my best wishes for the train crew who have been through an awful ordeal but agree that good loco design clearly worked to help them and hope they have a speedy and full recovery.
    Things that stand out for me are:
    - I've seen a number of US rail incidents via Virtual Railfan and CZcams and the quality and skills of the teams tackling the recovery stands out - well done all!
    - It is clear that once personnel and primary safety concerns are tackled then the recovery team gets on and gets the railroad mobile again as its priority
    - I won't list the issues I see that have been tackled by this time in the first phase but I was in awe - but then this is the first incident I've seen with such wide implications.
    I agree that if I compare the US response in general with the response here in the UK then the UK response doesn't have the correct focus and is slow and lethargic.
    Our Network Rail - sorry, I should say that I'm in the UK - (who are responsible for all things track and signalling) need a priority action team to address incidents and who will prepare the ground ahead of the recovery team followed by an infrastructure team to restore basic services as quickly as possible - within hours not days.
    The things I see as different to UK in this video are: -
    - Rapid environmental impact response and protection - sorry, NR, don't see that happen in the UK.
    - Site preparation with recovery and work space for the heavy clearance and recovery teams.
    - People and machinery still working with the first train running through - I flippantly will say that NR wouldn't allow anyone but train crew near the incident in that first pass - and I accept a flame if anyone feels that way.
    - Focus on commercial priorities - something I'm sure NS staff have near the top of their list, I'm sure! Every one of those cars that isn't moving is costing NS money and so moving them in that huge train is vital.
    My comments are my own and part of my response is from over 15 years working with UK rail.
    I accept response from UK rail people and encourage discussion as I'd like to be fair to Network Rail.
    At a personal level, I had to smile when I saw NS sending a raggedy-annie UP Dash-8 through over the new track ahead of the shiny NS SD70ACe. Better theirs than ours, eh? But your crews are clearly plenty good enough! Hope they're getting a decent bonus!

    • @tl50camiva
      @tl50camiva Před rokem

      You're missing the main point in your many paragraphs of comment Martin- there seems to be Zero communication between the Transport Company and the Railroad!
      All this could've been avoided.
      Look up Hixon Disaster- that was in 1968, pretty much 55yrs ago to the day!
      This event is completely unnecessary.

    • @philjackson1722
      @philjackson1722 Před rokem

      @@tl50camiva right on my friend. That is why I say not all the fault is on the truck driver.

  • @richblacklock
    @richblacklock Před rokem +2

    Thank you for the video!

  • @peterp1158
    @peterp1158 Před rokem +1

    Would love to see what the site looks like after restoration is complete.

  • @ChadManDudeGuy
    @ChadManDudeGuy Před rokem +3

    The lead locomotive is looking angry! I’m sure it’s salvageable! You would think with a big azz concrete beam like that the DOT would of have communicated with the railroad to safely make it across the train tracks. To make sure a train wasn’t coming anytime soon. Glad everyone is okay, it could of been a-lot worse.

  • @adampyke4037
    @adampyke4037 Před rokem +6

    I grew up just a few miles from there and still cfross that crossing quite often. It is amazing how fast they have restored it. I am surprised that they are allowing drone flight there. There is an airport just a couple miles down the road from there from the direction the crashed train came from. (The direction the train you filmed was heading)

    • @HotspotsSoutheast
      @HotspotsSoutheast  Před rokem +3

      It’s a small airport. Didn’t even pop up on the screen. Most likely has a limited flight approach so you’d have to be really close to get a warning.

    • @adampyke4037
      @adampyke4037 Před rokem +2

      @@HotspotsSoutheast I know, it is a municple airport, but has a long enough runway to support small executive jets. But It is only one runway and it perpindicular to the tracks.

    • @shawnbrown8888
      @shawnbrown8888 Před rokem +3

      Thanks Adam! I was one of the many people that cleaned that up! Yes still not done but takes time! Lots of hard work to straighten that out so they can get that rail back up and running!!!

    • @mikecross4350
      @mikecross4350 Před rokem +1

      Small corporate airport

    • @adampyke4037
      @adampyke4037 Před rokem

      @@mikecross4350 it is registered as a municipal airport. it is owned by the city of Collegedale

  • @Poopsock14
    @Poopsock14 Před rokem +3

    for once that C6M safety cab rebuild may have done something other than look more boring lol. glad the crew was ok other than some minor scratches.

  • @woodnewf3847
    @woodnewf3847 Před rokem +9

    Cool drone footage. Nice job. That accident is gonna max out somebody's liability coverage.

    • @mymisty7
      @mymisty7 Před rokem +2

      probably put that company out of business

    • @itjustlookslikethis
      @itjustlookslikethis Před rokem +1

      @@mymisty7 Nope. This is why you have liability insurance. Train coming around a curve, no time to stop. Truck driver gonna be unemployed soon.....

    • @stephenzamboiii336
      @stephenzamboiii336 Před rokem +1

      Class 1 railroads pay more than a million dollars per day for insurance. At least that is what a retired train engineer told me 5 years ago.

    • @woodnewf3847
      @woodnewf3847 Před rokem +4

      @@stephenzamboiii336 it's not on their insurance. It's on the company that owned the truck.

    • @woodnewf3847
      @woodnewf3847 Před rokem +1

      @@mymisty7 probably

  • @trainmaster0217
    @trainmaster0217 Před 11 měsíci

    Looks like they did a pretty good job.

  • @TrainCrazy.
    @TrainCrazy. Před rokem +2

    New subscriber here...great footage!! Thanks for sharing

  • @davejohnston5925
    @davejohnston5925 Před rokem +1

    SO much of that area has changed since I was last in the area... Circa 1975...

  • @waynep343
    @waynep343 Před rokem +1

    I wonder with the length of the train moving thru if they just coupled two trains together to break the traffic jam of backed up rail traffic.

  • @nickpavlovich2312
    @nickpavlovich2312 Před rokem +3

    THANKING THE ALMIGHTY GOD ABOVE THAT NO LIVES WERE LOST IN THIS VERY PREVENTABLE ACCIDENT.

  • @tothejazz4828
    @tothejazz4828 Před rokem +1

    It's scary that this was immediately adjacent to a public park with a playground.

  • @johnwinter8273
    @johnwinter8273 Před rokem +1

    Fast efficient work getting the line reopened. That's the difference between public and private. If it was a public road damaged, it would take weeks of not months to reopen. Private railroad company gets it done in hours. Hopefully you'll be there to see them lift the locos back on the rails or on a flat car.

    • @HotspotsSoutheast
      @HotspotsSoutheast  Před rokem

      That could be weeks or months from now.

    • @gerrywagoner26
      @gerrywagoner26 Před rokem

      @@HotspotsSoutheast If it was California, it would take months for an environmental impact survey, union bids, and literally miles of permit red tape.

  • @markphillips6154
    @markphillips6154 Před rokem

    Show some more so we can watch the project. That train pulling through bus or been really trying to make up for lost time that was a monster

  • @LUVEMDPOWER
    @LUVEMDPOWER Před rokem +3

    Well, now we know where that concrete beam was supposed to be headed.

  • @hifijohn
    @hifijohn Před rokem +15

    24:44 I take it that's where that beam was going to.

    • @Bench485
      @Bench485 Před rokem +1

      Looks so...but now the project is on hold.. because Jorge can't drive...

  • @kncwheeler
    @kncwheeler Před rokem +3

    You would think that with such a complex haul of the concrete truss that things would be better planned out so this would not happen 🤷‍♂️

  • @brucerushworth6941
    @brucerushworth6941 Před rokem +6

    Does anyone know the length of the train that passed through in the video? Looks like it had 2 leads,2 mid dpu’s and 4 pushers. Longest I’ve seen in awhile.

  • @littlejohnny4470
    @littlejohnny4470 Před rokem

    I watched this video two weeks ago. I was hoping you would be providing updates of the clean-up progress. I guess it was probably all cleaned up a week ago. Oh well....

  • @mikecross4350
    @mikecross4350 Před rokem +1

    I would like to know where his escorts were and why he sat at a red light with the train bearing down and the horn blaring and why wasn't the train schedule checked when moving such an oversized load?

  • @davejohnston5925
    @davejohnston5925 Před rokem

    I'm interested in knowing how the tractor pulling that concrete beam, got hung up at the crossing:
    1. Was the lead vehicle prevented from getting across the tracks and thru the intersection by a construction site flagger???
    2. Was the tractor mis-routed and sent along a road not rated for the load???
    3. Was there oncoming traffic interfering with the tractor making the left or right turn needed to continue its journey???
    4. LEO???
    These and other questions await an answer and it depends on just how long the NTSB want to take.

  • @tomgiorgini9154
    @tomgiorgini9154 Před rokem +2

    nice train to catch going thru what a monster, any knowledge on why the truck was sitting across the track, and yes they got the line back in action quick, still a lot of work left

  • @rafterman3712
    @rafterman3712 Před rokem +3

    Hopefully you can film how the locomotives will be lifted out & placed on flat cars. Except for the lead unit the other DPUs should be salvageable

    • @HotspotsSoutheast
      @HotspotsSoutheast  Před rokem +3

      Won’t know when that happens. Those units could sit on the ground for months before being moved.

    • @amyfisher7510
      @amyfisher7510 Před rokem

      They are available. We watched one last night..

  • @whdbnrm3023
    @whdbnrm3023 Před rokem +6

    is anybody going to mention the double DPU ? Amazing train action

    • @HotspotsSoutheast
      @HotspotsSoutheast  Před rokem +3

      That was unexpected for sure. When I heard the engines on the rear approaching I said no way.

    • @whdbnrm3023
      @whdbnrm3023 Před rokem +2

      @@HotspotsSoutheast seeing how long the train is ,I was wondering ,but never expected a double DPU . WWoT would have enjoyed that one .

  • @stevenlitkey9354
    @stevenlitkey9354 Před rokem

    Can’t even imagine the final tally of costs when all said and done. Who’s gonna foot the bill on this mess ???

  • @paulvlietstra7110
    @paulvlietstra7110 Před rokem +1

    If you find out, let us know how much the cost was for the truck company/insurance claim.

  • @johnuhelski8613
    @johnuhelski8613 Před rokem

    3.5 Million each for the three wrecked motors , other rolling stock to be scrapped on site. Three motors to go up to Altoona for rebuild . Leader may be scrapped tho' . Talked with NS staff there , got a NO COMMENT , when I asked about trucking company paying for all this . Good thing there were not any hazardous loads this day !!

  • @edp2260
    @edp2260 Před rokem +3

    Where is this shot in relation to the grade crossing that the collision occurred? I am assuming that it ISN"T the crossing near the locomotives sitting in the mud.

    • @shawnbrown8888
      @shawnbrown8888 Před rokem +1

      Ed p the signals were wiped out after the collision

    • @HotspotsSoutheast
      @HotspotsSoutheast  Před rokem +2

      The crossing is right next to where the third unit was dragged to. The train only went a short distance before stopping. When the track is torn up and the locomotives start digging ditches in the ballast they slow down pretty quick.

    • @edp2260
      @edp2260 Před rokem

      @@HotspotsSoutheast Thanks. I was wondering about that. So the train stopped in a few hundered feet? It looked like they were going at least 50. The construction of the locomotive saved the crew. I saw a video about haw they are built. It seems amazing that it is possible to provide crash protection at the head end of a massive train. That is one reason that crews in the steam era resisted cab forward designs as they believed that having the cab at the back of the locomotive was safer. Great drone video of the site!

  • @michaelskidmore5086
    @michaelskidmore5086 Před rokem +6

    I said it once and I’ll keep saying it until people see this comment. It doesn’t matter the speed of trains, they are big, heavy, and they can’t stop in time. This accident proves my point that you can’t stop in the middle of the line. Wait behind the gates and wait for the train to go before you proceed. I can’t stop saying it until people see my comment and be like: “he’s right. Why can’t we follow him and his advice? He’s speaking facts here.” And I am speaking facts unlike people I see nowadays. Bottom line, don’t stop in middle of tracks and wait for trains to go by. Thank you.

    • @chadnelson924
      @chadnelson924 Před rokem +2

      As a truck driver, you can't automatically blame the driver, something not right with the situation,, that truck should of had escorts and police escorts too..and when the lights start flashing,, the trains is pretty close,,that's a safety issue all by itself

    • @michaelskidmore5086
      @michaelskidmore5086 Před rokem

      @@chadnelson924 but you understand where I’m coming from with the comment right? I see your point.

    • @davebrown4841
      @davebrown4841 Před rokem +1

      Gee, I'm sure most people know this... you can come down off of your throne...LOL 😂

    • @michaelskidmore5086
      @michaelskidmore5086 Před rokem

      @@davebrown4841 if anyone else thinks this comment is funny, it’s not. I’m serious and am not playing around. I know what I said and I want to preach the truth about this.

    • @shawnbrown8888
      @shawnbrown8888 Před rokem +1

      @@michaelskidmore5086 i am with ya Michael!!! I am a train wrecker! Meaning i clean this up!!!! Trains can't turn like a vehicle and people these days have NO common sense at all!!!! They are dumb!!!!

  • @laurensvandergeugten1610

    It is insane how long these trains are in the usa

  • @techwolflupindo
    @techwolflupindo Před rokem +2

    I wonder how they up righted the engines. Photos of the crash showed them leaning about 45 degrees and one the side.

    • @HotspotsSoutheast
      @HotspotsSoutheast  Před rokem +2

      Watch my video of the train wreck in Duluth GA. It shows locomotives being lifted.

  • @reginald2004
    @reginald2004 Před rokem

    That crossing is going to be a nightmare in the future. The road intersections on either side are too close.

    • @HotspotsSoutheast
      @HotspotsSoutheast  Před rokem

      Most traffic will bypass the town completely so it shouldn’t be that bad. That’s the point of the new road. To pass over the tracks and around the town. Only locals will use the crossing.

  • @JamesJones-rg3dn
    @JamesJones-rg3dn Před rokem +3

    Great footage and progress at the site,I saw the video of the impact,incredible ,glad no one was seriously hurt . I'm just wondering, when there is construction at a railroad site is there not always some sort of rail supervisor overseeing the safety aspect of the job,seems to me this accident was avoidable . Thinking lawsuit against the truck driver and company hauling that span or was that the railroads employees?

    • @HotspotsSoutheast
      @HotspotsSoutheast  Před rokem +2

      The construction site is a half mile down the road. This is just a standard crossing so no special precautions were taken. Collegedale is a weird location. The roads lead in but don’t really go anywhere. For example there are no gas stations or fast food or anything really in Collegedale. There are no roads that lead anywhere directly. Everything is a round about route. This new highway they are building will crossover the tracks to avoid accidents like this and connect the town to other towns more directly.

    • @jamesburleson1916
      @jamesburleson1916 Před rokem +2

      Without seeing both the dashcam from the truck, and the train, I would hesitate to blame any party. In the video of the accident itself you can clearly hear the semi truck blowing his horn. I'm a truck driver myself, nothing specialized like that, but it's astounding how clueless the general public is about any large vehicles, and the physics governing them. I've seen a lot of folks in comments jumping right to blaming the truck driver, and he might be at fault, but there's just no way to know that from the videos that are public.

    • @davemoulton2971
      @davemoulton2971 Před rokem +1

      Any load like this goes through tons of planning with state DOT and engineers. The weight of the beam is compared with weight limits on roads and bridges a long the route from the manufacturer to the jobsite. Since there was a railroad crossing involved it should have included a railroad representative to make sure the load crossing was timed with the trains schedules. This planning can take weeks of time and permits have to be pulled along with escorts for the load. There should have been a rep from the RR onsite to prevent this. Someone dropped the ball and the driver isn't at fault here.

    • @JamesJones-rg3dn
      @JamesJones-rg3dn Před rokem +1

      @@davemoulton2971 In agreement with you Dave,bottom line to me is that the driver put the rig in harms way,he was behind the wheel,I believe heads are going to roll as there where safety fails at every level of the operations at that site

    • @davemoulton2971
      @davemoulton2971 Před rokem

      @@JamesJones-rg3dn I was reading comments on the video of the crash and someone said that the RR was notified and the trucking g company was given a 30min window to cross. He said the train left its last stop 10 min early and was going 15mph faster than it should have. Sounds like the RR is a fault here. There still should have been a rep from the RR onsite with radio communication with the approaching train!

  • @TezcatlipocaMountyRailfan

    That used to be the prettiest spot in Collegedale. Between the grass, the trees paralleling the road and tracks, and the Collegedale greenway path/commons, it was really pretty. Now, it’s nothing but dirt and gravel. 😭

    • @HotspotsSoutheast
      @HotspotsSoutheast  Před rokem +4

      In a few months it will be like it never happened. They clean up the area pretty well and even seed grass and trees.

    • @egoequus6263
      @egoequus6263 Před rokem +1

      @@HotspotsSoutheast How many trees got hit? It looks like they escaped.

  • @pcap2700
    @pcap2700 Před rokem +2

    How did all the other concrete beams that are already in place get there did they cross the tracks at the same crossing?

  • @Hokieredneck
    @Hokieredneck Před rokem +2

    Can you imagine the insurance claim on this for the trucking company? 50 mil?

  • @johnschneider3082
    @johnschneider3082 Před rokem

    Yeah, I think the railroad needs to consider clearing the trees short of the crossing along “Trucker Ln.”coming around that curve crossing traffics view is obstructed.

  • @Blake4625kHz
    @Blake4625kHz Před rokem +1

    So truck driver got promotion, correct?

  • @thekingsilverado3266
    @thekingsilverado3266 Před rokem

    I told em a long time ago they needed a separate locomotive parking area.

  • @ryanm9318
    @ryanm9318 Před rokem

    Trucker calling their insurance company. “So exactly how much am I covered for in damages, just asking for a friend?”

  • @lloydrobinson7081
    @lloydrobinson7081 Před rokem

    good clip

  • @waynep343
    @waynep343 Před rokem

    I have written my congressman an idea of using a modified aircraft ADSB system on locomotives. With receivers in trucks, school busses that have to cross grade crossings. Fire and police vehicles in areas with grade crossings. As trucks sometimes take longer than the 23 seconds to get across the tracks. Long loads should have pilot cars or police that block traffic so no long or oversized load gets stopped on the tracks by traffic or traffic signals.. blast thru those red traffic lights oversized load drivers .

  • @joerivers1768
    @joerivers1768 Před rokem +4

    Didn't even chip the glass on 4067

    • @chadnelson924
      @chadnelson924 Před rokem +1

      It's bullet proof glass in the locomotives

  • @phillipcraddock8248
    @phillipcraddock8248 Před rokem +1

    I hate for that truck drivers insurance co,pay day is gonna be unreal

    • @davemoulton2971
      @davemoulton2971 Před rokem

      Not the drivers fault at all. This load and others like it are preplanned with the company moving the load and the state DOT engineers. This planning can take weeks at a time per load.

  • @markmonse5285
    @markmonse5285 Před rokem +3

    Which highway project is now going to be delayed while waiting on a replacement beam? It's not like Home Depot carries them.

    • @michaelharris3296
      @michaelharris3296 Před rokem +2

      You are looking at the road project that will be delayed. The driver was literally 5 minutes from making the delivery.

    • @waynespyker5731
      @waynespyker5731 Před rokem +1

      @@michaelharris3296 How many successful loads have been delivered?

    • @heartysteer8752
      @heartysteer8752 Před rokem

      @@waynespyker5731 At 25:22 I'd say 15. Not counting the other two new bridges closer to the intersection or any others.

  • @angelarusso4797
    @angelarusso4797 Před rokem

    The concrete barrier had to be distroyed

  • @chuckswanson8496
    @chuckswanson8496 Před rokem

    Why is there a 4 lane hwy ending to a single dirt road?

  • @bennyedmondson5128
    @bennyedmondson5128 Před rokem

    Never seen a train that long with 6 helpers

  • @joed9491
    @joed9491 Před rokem +2

    I wonder if anyone involved in the transportation of that concrete beam used common sense and called the railroad to find out if they had any trains approaching and alert them of the need to cross?

    • @nealeberly4325
      @nealeberly4325 Před rokem +1

      You would think that would be in the permits to move that size load.

    • @grandinosour
      @grandinosour Před rokem

      trucker here...states and railroads really don't have that kind of communication.

    • @joed9491
      @joed9491 Před rokem

      @@grandinosour - So if you're working for a company, they don't have the ability to call the railroad especially in this case? The beams were heading a short distance to a new road that was under construction so I would imagine there that state DOT officials would possibly be on scene but if not, someone was supervising the project that certainly should've had the ability to coordinate the crossing with the railroad.
      Can't wait though for the NTSB report to come out.

    • @nealeberly4325
      @nealeberly4325 Před rokem +1

      Responding to trucker. Maybe they don't, but they should. I worked at a place where we shipped superloads. Some required 4 state patrol escorts in addition to the company escorts. Maybe not all states require that. I find it hard to believe that there is that lack of communication about a main line crossing like that. Surely I a construction zone like that appeared to be the RR would have had a person on site. Pipelines sure do

  • @jtq69
    @jtq69 Před rokem

    I would think they will scrap the boxcars and railcar the locos up to Altoona for rebuild?

  • @v1-vr-rotatev2-vy_vx31

    Way too many derailments here in the USA every month or two every month...

  • @SteveTheFazeman
    @SteveTheFazeman Před rokem +3

    Kinda strange why the massive road bridge leads to a small country road.

    • @michaelharris3296
      @michaelharris3296 Před rokem +3

      They are revamping the entire road for miles. It is a multi year project.

    • @SteveTheFazeman
      @SteveTheFazeman Před rokem +1

      Thanks for letting me know as I'm ignorant to road projects outside of my area. That leads me to whether the broken bridge support was part of the project. If so, trucking companies, their escorts and the railroad ought to be on the same page with regard to communication.

    • @HotspotsSoutheast
      @HotspotsSoutheast  Před rokem

      The roads in the area used to lead basically nowhere. You drive into Collegedale, then you have to drive back out the way you went in to go somewhere else. It’s not a direct route to anywhere. The new road will make it a more direct route.

    • @SteveTheFazeman
      @SteveTheFazeman Před rokem

      @@HotspotsSoutheast,
      I appreciate the info. Will be interesting to see once the project is done. And thanks for the excellent video.

  • @alfrednewman6377
    @alfrednewman6377 Před rokem +1

    What kind of dronr did you use? Really nice footage.

  • @taslimchoudhary1253
    @taslimchoudhary1253 Před rokem +2

    🌺🌴🇮🇳🌾🌺
    Nice Coverage

  • @Urbicide
    @Urbicide Před rokem

    This looks expensive!

  • @albertvieira6635
    @albertvieira6635 Před rokem

    Where is the big creams To put the train back together And to put the locomotives back on the track That is what's missing That is my observation Is there something I'm missing here

  • @innercityprepper
    @innercityprepper Před rokem +2

    @13:27 is that a bird hollering at the drone?

    • @HotspotsSoutheast
      @HotspotsSoutheast  Před rokem +1

      No. I was sitting in a chair not far away and a bird landed behind me. I record the audio from the ground with my phone. But I have had my drones bombed by birds many times. I’ve had to move to other locations or drop lower to get away from them.

  • @nate4745
    @nate4745 Před rokem +2

    How are they going to remedy this problem? All oversized loads must contact railroad dispatch before crossing to find out if there's a high-speed train coming? That'll cost extra.

    • @kennethhanks6712
      @kennethhanks6712 Před rokem +3

      Not near as much as this disaster is going to cost the trucking company and possibly the contractor. Besides it is generally required already that transport of loads like this must have coordinatination with all parties, including the railroads, and have proper safeguards and procedures in place which obviously was NOT the case here.

    • @stevenbowers4164
      @stevenbowers4164 Před rokem

      That's the process in the UK, every level crossing has a phone on either side and before and after you cross with an outsized load you need to contact the signalman to get permission and to confirm that you are clear afterwards, there's still a few crossings on tracks with line speeds of 125mph so you do not mess around with the rules

    • @nomenclature9373
      @nomenclature9373 Před rokem

      It is a requirement for all permit loads (long loads, over size, or overweight) to coordinate with RR.

    • @modeltrainsandtracks
      @modeltrainsandtracks Před rokem

      @@stevenbowers4164 And yet we still have incidents on a regular (annual?) basis with farm equipment in particular. Many drivers simply don't get "fast train = no time"

    • @itjustlookslikethis
      @itjustlookslikethis Před rokem

      Why no police escort? Truck could have driven right through the red light. Police escort dead people all the time for the same reason.

  • @jed-henrywitkowski6470

    Was a heavy haul/wide load tractor/trailer involved?

  • @Jill_Pajzer
    @Jill_Pajzer Před rokem +4

    How do they get the engines out of the dirt like that?

    • @nomenclature9373
      @nomenclature9373 Před rokem

      Normal procedure, bring back the side mounted cranes, make sure the engines can still roll, put the engines on the tracks and pull them to a yard for repair or disposal.

    • @modeltrainsandtracks
      @modeltrainsandtracks Před rokem

      @@nomenclature9373 What amazed me were the backhoe drivers clearing the lead loco debris - both drivers seemed to know where the wheelset and teaction motor need to be placed and got oon and did it - does that mean there are trained backhoe drivers as part of the team?

    • @peterconrad861
      @peterconrad861 Před rokem

      @@modeltrainsandtracks it's probably RJ Korman or whatever their name is running the backhoes and the whole operation. I think they clean up pretty much all the train wrecks and are very slick/knowledgeable about it all.

    • @HotspotsSoutheast
      @HotspotsSoutheast  Před rokem

      The engines were buried in gravel. They have special bulldozers with side cranes to lift them. The trucks on the lead unit were destroyed so not reusable. If the trucks are salvageable they will put the trucks on the rail then lift the locomotive and set it on the trucks. If the couplers are still good they will pull the locomotive to a shop for repair. If there are no trucks or the couplers and frame are damaged they will put it onto a flatcar. Priority one is get the cars out of the way so the track can be put back in. Then they save what they can and cut up the rest for scrap.

    • @HotspotsSoutheast
      @HotspotsSoutheast  Před rokem

      The restoration crews are highly specialized. There are dozens of people on site ready and waiting to perform their task. There are several managers who coordinate all of the crew members. When one task is complete the next task begins immediately. Everything they need is delivered and ready. Track is usually back in place in less than 24 hours.

  • @supercuda1950
    @supercuda1950 Před rokem +2

    Great video. Who pays for the lost cargo and damaged cars and reclamation of the derailment area?

    • @itjustlookslikethis
      @itjustlookslikethis Před rokem +2

      The trucking company's insurance will pay for it.

    • @dknowles60
      @dknowles60 Před rokem +1

      @@itjustlookslikethis the trucking companys Insurance has a million dollar limit

    • @davemoulton2971
      @davemoulton2971 Před rokem +3

      @@dknowles60 a load like this is different than a normal trucking company load. This is specialized loads and carries a lot more than a million dollars. I would guess the insurance was more like 15 million bond. I know a house moving company that had to carry 10 million.

    • @heartysteer8752
      @heartysteer8752 Před rokem

      @@dknowles60 Can't imagine a load like that would get a permit without a lot more insurance than that.

    • @supercuda1950
      @supercuda1950 Před rokem

      @@heartysteer8752 On the other hand what insurance company would picture a truck blocking the crossing and causing damage like this?

  • @Ron-rs2zl
    @Ron-rs2zl Před rokem +1

    Why is this train sooo loooong?? And why so slow?

    • @HotspotsSoutheast
      @HotspotsSoutheast  Před rokem +4

      When track is put back into service and there are crews working, track speed is limited to 10 or 15 mph. Once they are done and the track inspected speed will be increased. This is also a really long train. They may have doubled up two trains that were delayed by the accident.

    • @Ron-rs2zl
      @Ron-rs2zl Před rokem +1

      @@HotspotsSoutheast that's what I thought wouldn't want to wait for that train to pass but sat here and watched it .

  • @robertalexanderdumas3284

    I wonder what they’re gonna do engine 4067 Is it done or can it be restored??

  • @frankhobsonKJ4CDM
    @frankhobsonKJ4CDM Před rokem +1

    That was a ride! Jumping a freaking locomotive 🚂 over a ditch. I would like to see that CCTV footage

  • @1978garfield
    @1978garfield Před rokem

    Any idea who is doing the clean up?
    I saw a bunch of red tractor trailers so I am guessing R.J. Corman.
    Hope the train crew is spending Christmas at home with their families and getting better.

    • @cameronholden3686
      @cameronholden3686 Před rokem

      That’s me on the 170 Komatsu, Holden railroad construction is doing clean up.

  • @tomp8871
    @tomp8871 Před rokem

    Why were the Engines so far apart?

  • @vrmntthb
    @vrmntthb Před rokem

    Jeez….some of those UP DPUs look as if they themselves have been wrecked, erected upright and placed on traction motors to catch this manifest here…