Stable Blade tutorial for Caterpillar Motorgraders and washboard rant.
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- čas přidán 2. 03. 2023
- Lets talk about washboard, what causes it, how you can help prevent it, and a tool in new Cat Motor Graders called stable blade. Stable Blade is an anti washboard feature that when used helps an operator to prevent creating washboard with the blade of the machine.
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Fair rant m8,, it can be a very thankless job but also very satisfying at the same time, i am very appreciative of your knowledge of how the modcons work & how you reinterprete into practical learning for others , well done i learnt alot from this vid , keep it up & feel good in the fact that you have helped so many , drivers on the road & operators .
Very informative...and the rant was well said!!
This old operator shared with me when he noticed washboard really exploding as a problem was after Posi-traction or Limited Slip Differentials became a standard feature on vehicles. Vehicles were able to keep up speeds in areas where in the past they would be forced to slow down.
Really good video bud. Nice insight to grader operations that I know nothing about but have always been curious about.
Thanks for watching Dave!!
I have a section that goes from 60mph asphalt to gravel and I could re-blade it every day. Nothing will help because no one slows down, so I just knock the tops off.
Funny story... I didn't know what stable blade was and for the life of me couldn't figure out why the machine's cruise kept slowing down. Figured it was glitchy. We don't spend alot of time training guys. Finally asked the Cat guy and he said it was a feature.... Ahhh... nice.
Another way to keep bounce out without the computer is to offset the rears and of course to have plenty of angle in the mole board. Love you're work. Thanks much.
Thanks for watching - and yes you are 100% correct introducing some articulation or blade angle will help reduce bounce, also wheel lean can help too. Lots of things to change the geometry of the machine. That’s the case for most people who get a new Cat grader, they haven’t been shown how stable works or what it does and it makes a lot of people mad because they don’t know what’s happening with their machine and then get frustrated and just turn the feature off instead of using it how it’s intended to be used. Thanks again for watching.
Thank you my man you were a very big help to me n keep it up n good work God bless you
Appreciate the kind words thanks for watching. Glad I could help you out.
I remember when I was younger in the 80s the county grader guy would use the ripper or scar fire whatever it is called lol and cut out the wash boards and potholes then grade it smooth and it would last a while before they came back now days the guys barely know how to use a machine lol they love grading the dirt out of the ditch and putting it on the road lol thanks for sharing buddy wish we had somebody like you around here doing roads I understand it’s the traffic causing the wash boards I heard the guys say what you said to people need to slow down and not cram the breaks at stops lol
Hey Scrotie thanks for watching. Scarifying or ripping are good options to get to the bottom and start blending things back for sure. Pulling shoulders is a important part of road maintenance too, traffic tends to push the roads out, we drive to fast and we put to heavy of loads on our gravel road infrastructure and it pushes the material out, so they have to pull the shoulders up to recover both gravel and the clay binders to resurface to road and bring it back to its proper shape. You’re not wrong experienced equipment operators are getting hard to come by, we need to encourage more young people coming into the work force that there is nothing wrong with blue collar type work. They have more options than just university.
You're 100% correct on the washboard. People just need to slow down Nathan! That grader sure is fancy! 😁👍 I enjoyed the video my friend 🔧
Howdy Zane! Thanks for watching, everyone goes way to dang fast on the gravel. Everyone’s in a hurry to go nowhere. Hopefully I get my new laptop soon and can get back to editing new footage. I’m lucky I’ve got a few that I can upload in the meantime to keep videos going up. Hope your doing well bud. Take care and stay safe out there
Nice and good work
Thank you! Cheers!
Got a commercial for Air Sprint private jets at the start of your video. 😉 Onward and upward! 👋🇨🇦
Hello there! Hope you’ve been well I enjoy touring around with you and seeing the places you visit. Keep up the good work. Thanks for watching
I would like a very technical and scientific explanation on why motor graders "wheel hop". They all do, from very old to very new.
I completely agree with speed of traffic being the biggest part of washboarding as well as needing moisture when correcting it and getting it packed in good. Have you looked into Sharq cutting edges? I swithed about 5 years ago and will never go back to standard blades. I can change out blades in about 10 minutes. I run the regular flat blades in the winter for snow removal and the swith to the more agressive "cheese grater" looking ones for summer use, they do a much better job cutting out washboard and also leave a nicer finish pass.
Hey there thanks for watching, I have never used the sharq edges. I know a few guys that use them and like them. I typically prefer DH2 steel blades for any kind of cutting, and carbides for normal maintenance. Actually really like the Cat Grader Bit 2 system for carbides, pricy to get into but they last forever so you make up for the initial costs of them. Thanks again for watching sir.
@@ironman3406 I agree the carbide bits are pricy and the cost benefit just wasn't there for my application as I do more snow removal with my machine than summer road maintenance and the main reason for that is we went to using calcium chloride for dust suppression which also cuts down on the need for summer grading.
I like info, I like to see more of the view of the grader blade in action would’ve been a lot nicer, showing the blade cutting. A drone view would’ve been nice too.
Purpose of the video wasn’t to show the blade in action so much as what the operator sees when the feature is active - I just bought a drone so hopefully I’ll be able to do that in the future thanks
I seen a washboard kill several people in Valdez, AK. The driver lost control and went off the road.
Yes it can be very dangerous to drive on, like i said speed on gravel is a huge factor for accidents. Thanks for watching
Interesting, does the ferry run a regular schedule or run as needed due to sparse traffic. I’ve been visiting Saskatchewan via the internet and hometown Saskatchewan, interesting stories and places. Hope to see more on the 60 soon.
Hello sir - the ferry runs on the hour on the south side and in the half hour on the north side. More will be coming in the sixty soon, unfortunately my laptop that I use for editing died so I am trying to use some video I had from months past to get me by until I’ve got a new laptop to edit the sixty footage.
Material has a lot to do to make Wasboard especially in Sandy ares's as you need a binder ( certain amount of clay content ( from Manitoba )
Torque hop,, suspension twist and spring back!
I've been on that ferry ! Tore the rear jacks off my trailer getting off.
That sucks!
hi my friend , seus videos chegaram ao BRASIL .
Thanks for watching all the way in South America!!
Could i make a content suggestion?
A blade angle series for dummies.
We wont all get the opportunity to drive a flash new grader with electronic this and that. But the how and why of blade angle remains the same whether its a new grader or a 50s gallion or even a blade behind your tractor.
Tips and tweaks for hard or soft incorporate or spread and which way to tweak if its not cutting right would make for a great series.
I’ll see what I can do thanks for the suggestion!
I was on washboard yesterday in a 1 ton dually truck. My back teeth are still rattling LOL!
It’s terrible stuff to drive on!! Thanks for stopping by Matt.
Nathan what you are saying is wheel hop from hard braking and hard throttle response causes washboarding
That is correct sir
After growing up on washboards, I'm surprised to hear that anything can be done other than scratching off the tops after a rain. So if a few quick passes last for 3 cars, how long would a proper cut and pack fix last?
It’ll last a lot longer if the damage is cut out to the bottom and laid back over smooth, and traffic can help make it last longer by slowing down. All the factors play a part in how long the repair will last.
@@ironman3406 We didn't have any of the "Drive slower to avoid washboards" sign, and everyone else drove like the Indy 500!
@@jazzerbyte those signs are very rare, municipalities don’t do them selves any favours when it comes to speed on gravel because they don’t police it.
I'm going to send this video to the hutterites near my place because they are always in a hurry with the big trucks then like you said they are on the brakes hard coming to their turn off then hammer down and yes the wash board gets nasty at times 🤬🤬
If we can get folks to slow down it will without a doubt help your maintenance crews out. Everyone is in to big a hurry to go nowhere these days. Thanks for watching.
What is the purpose of a windrow left on the side of the road?
Thanks for watching - there can be a couple reasons for leaving a windrow on the side. One is that if an operator has just recently pulled the shoulders up, there is often lots of vegetation that comes with it so they will leave the windrow alone to allow the vegetation to dry out before blading it across the road. The other is that some operators leave what they call a maintenance windrow on the side. This is so that they have a windrow of material to start with to blade across the road surface. I am personally not a fan of this as they hold water. Hope that answers your question. Thanks again for watching
What is blade cushion ?
And what is it for
It’s kind of like ride control for the blade, there are a pair of accumulators plumber into the blade lift circuit. When the machine encounters things like large rocks in the surface of the road, the accumulators allow the blade life cylinders to ride up over the rock, instead of leaving all the down pressure in the cylinders to catch on the rock. I hope that answers your question. Thanks for watching.
I put a Ford pickup on it's side once on a gravel road. The washboard spun me around and away I went.
Yes sir it can be dangerous stuff. Thanks for watching
I’ve been a blade operator for well longer or so long I’d need to do math day after holiday weekend so math not happening
I’ve been chosen to train morons how to wrap their non operator brains I mean you got people who shouldn’t be allowed around a machine little lone in it running but I’m gotten old and I can’t be the super operator I’ve always been just kidding I have gotten old and I m not as spry as I was So my bosses I have a bunch figured I need apprentice but most people aren’t any type of operator come to find out
In my blade experience before my fancy pants 16Gs bells and whistles when getting under wash board I could see at the back of the cutting edge the wash board coming thru the way I set up blade is for cutting edge to be perpendicular to road (90 degrees) you wouldn’t believe how many people have know idea what perpendicular means. Where I’m blading in rock quarries the washboards are a lot larger both in depth and distance apart to peaks what my point of this is in my opinion it’s better to learn the manual way before you go to automatic way all the new machine bells and whistles are nice features but BUT how do you run the machine when your bells and whistles aren’t working right or at all I’ve had one apprentice go home cause GPS was down and he couldn’t cut grade or he didn’t have the experience or no how to not be digital what I’m saying is it better to learn a manual skill and perfect it than have no clue and depend on grade control to get by sorry I rambled just had knee replacement s so I’m CZcams surfing my wife thinks I’m nuts watching machine operation videos …..maybe….. but it’s what I do BE SAFE big Jon
Thanks for watching Jon, I’ve heard what you’ve said from a great many operators. However the challenge our industry faces sooner than later is that guys like you won’t be around forever. Young people are drawn into technology and it’s how we will draw in the next generation of operators. I learned the old school way too, but the industry needs to change how we look at technology. We need to start using it as a tool to get people interested in becoming an operator, use the ease of use tools to get them up to speed faster so they can be productive sooner. Then it’s our responsibility as veterans in the industry to teach them how to do it should and when the tech goes down. We have this mind set that you can’t be an operator if you use tech, and we criticize new and upcoming operators for using it. That mind set isn’t helping our industry grow, it’s going to keep steering people away from it. We have the power in our hands to inspire the next generation of equipment operators. Thanks for the comment and for watching.
100% correct my man , the new gen morons privileged at that have no concept of how a base machine works without all the mod cons, if you find one worthy teach hard from scratch , if they can cut it ( no pun intended) then & only then allow the modern technology to be introduced , the old way is best to learn .
Hello bro i am garder operator
Washboard is due to the use of over inflated tires, which bound against the road surface. People install "Washboarding themselves"!! Lol
Yes I forgot that one - my comment still holds true that the majority of wash board is caused by traffic not the grader. Thanks for watching
Why would they blame the Grader operator
oh shit so power sliding around bends & fish tailing up straights is ok then 🤣
If you want to keep wrecking the roads then yes keep doing it.
@@ironman3406 180hp dirt bike on graded limbstone road is perfect
Good info but in my opinion there is too much yakking in this video. CZcams is a visual medium. Watching a guy yak, well who needs a video for this?
Kind of hard to show the ways that washboard is caused without actually doing it and causing the exact damage I’m trying to help cause less of, at least I chose to talk from the seat while doing it instead of just standing there talking to the camera next to the machine. But yes I know it is a lot of talking for this particular one. Most are not like this. Thanks
Then move along and go watch something else
14 min of blah blah blah before you get to it, we all run graders, we all know the basics. FFS!
I think it’s a little bit assuming on your part to think that everyone runs a grader - and if you think the initial part of the video was for operators ….well think again. I’m trying to educate the public about what creates wash board so they stop blaming operators like you for making wash board. Did you at least learn something about stable blade once the video got to that part?
Do all my series have this option I run a 150 never seen this option
Hi thanks for watching and for a great question. This feature is 4/5 years old, but not all models will have it it’s an option that can be ordered. The easiest way you will know it has it, is to pop into the screen, go into the settings menu and if it has Stable Blade or should be the second line down. If you can’t find it anywhere in the settings menu the machine won’t have the feature. Thanks again hope this answers your question.