Anker GaNPrime 735 (65W), 737 (120W), 747 (150w) USB C Power Adapters
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- Anker GaNPrime 735 (65W), 737 (120W), 747 (150w) USB C Power Adapters
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In this video I am looking at three USB C power adapters. The models are listed below with links if you want to pick one up. MORE POWER ADAPTERS.
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Man, I really love your content. We need more people like you exposing the real number on these devices so we can make accurate purchases. I really appreciate what you do, hope you keep it up
Thanks. I will.
@AllThingsOnePlace how about the quality of ravpower chargers ?
Wow you are putting out some rare content here man, Thank you so much for this.
Thanks, they're nothing but power supplies but can't seem to find the information anywhere else.
It may seem unimportant, but showing a full 360 view of these chargers is 1) very helpful, and 2) surprisingly hard to find. I have a Apple Watch charger stick thing that only plugs in one way. For example, it would be upside down on the 120w charger, but right side up on the 150w charger since the usb-a direction is flipped. Thanks, these videos are awesome and truly helpful. Anker’s site nor amazon have front views of these chargers.
Thanks, that is a great point! I actually fairly regularly run into that myself...what do the connections look like, what are the markings on the product. Anker's webpage and user manual don't even mention the silicon sleeve thing (donut). Product photos will be 7 different orthogonal views all essentially the same. It isn't complicated but for some reason it is.
Flat out amazed at the quality and education in this video. 👌🏾
Thank you! I always make small improvements in the videos over time and this is the result of that.
Really appreciate the in-depth analysis.
Thanks for watching!
Just canceled my 735 order and love your channel now
Ha, yeah, they are pushing that one and it's not amazing. Their own Nano II series is better at power stuff.
What a great content! It seems though that those chargers are not as PRIME as i thought they would be. However the 150W looks appealing. Thanks for this video, been waiting for it!
I missed the opportunity to use PRIME puns... disappointed in myself now. Such an easy target.
I have no idea why you don’t have 1M subscribers. Your videos are exceptional. Keep it up!
Wow, thank you! Titles, icons, talking speed, lack of breaks in the video are some reasons why it isn't bigger, less broad appeal. Also I think YT is having a hard time finding the audience that goes with the channel or there just isn't that big of an audience which is fine. Yes, I am reviewing power adapters mostly, but it is more than that. Anyway, still all good fun so I've got way too many things in the queue for videos coming up.
Thanks for the very comprehensive summary. It helped me with my choice and I went straight for the 737 to have a future-proof and travel-ready device.
Nice! Glad I could help.
Definitely looking forward to the travel adapters.. just bought the zendure recently hope it holds up lol
I don't expect them to do great on the power quality side, it is more about portability and ease of use for those. Can still have a winner of the category though.
3:28 I was looking at a 65w purchase, but after seeing you have all these doohickys and then you said it suck, I will skip that purchase and look more towards the 120w. Thanks for the video
Yeah, 120W is the sweet spot in Anker's larger adapter line up.
I read somewhere that the numbering scheme is first digit is the series, second number is the number of ports the third, is performance. Good thing I ordered the 150W
I think you are onto something there with the numbering. Although the last number I think is watts. So the nano ii series 30w is a 711. 65w is 715. 100w 736. And you know the 120/150w GaN prime 7. I guess they could have made the 7 an 8 on the 150w.
Thanks very much for your time making this video 👍
Glad it was helpful!
Great video, thank you. I was wondering how theses perform, now I know.
Thanks, I think the larger ones did better than the usual for Anker. The 65W is substantially worse than Ankers own Nano II 65W adapter so no idea what went wrong there...
@@AllThingsOnePlacethe 65 watt uses different parts from lesser known vendors. Both the 120 and 150 watt use Infineon gan parts.
Thank you for doing this video! Purchase decision made.
Nice! Thanks for watching.
Thank you for a great review!😀
Thanks for watching!
Glad that I researched this first. This testing is super impressive. Sad that Amazon is prioritizing their house brand over others with discounts. Marketing wins big time.
I guess I wouldn't expect amazon to do any different, ha.
Nice and details review, thanks
Love the content. I'm wondering if you will eventually test the Anker 737 Power Bank/PowerCore 24k (Ridiculous naming scheme as there is the 737 120W charger)? Would love to see your thoughts on which Battery Pack/Power Bank offerings are the best on the market.
Yep, I will. It is on the way. Someone commented on the naming scheme and I think it is correct. #Technology, # of ports, #(maybe power level). I have a bunch of hybrid adapters too. So, much to do, so little time, haha.
The "something about Anker" is decent prices/reliability and actual support when things go wrong. They're never top of the lot for performance but they're mostly dependable IME
Yeah, they even have some pretty good performance devices now too. I have heard good things about the support side of things also.
1 usb c broke on my charger it has 2 usb c and 2 usb a i contact them amazone they say we are a reseller so we can’t replace the product i got my money back. And we had a door bell of eufy ( anker ) direct from them it broke and they said we can give you a gift card or money back.
Thanks for the test! Interesting to see that Anker does nothing really better than others. Almost a little bit disappointing.
Do you expect any other outcome for adapters with EU plug? A couple of weeks ago I went for a Baseus 100W adapter. I’m wondering wether there could be a difference in performance to the US version. Any thoughts?
The EU adapters would probably score a little lower (not a huge amount but measurable) in general versus US counterparts. The higher peak voltage in general causes the power factor correction circuit to behave less effectively at lighter loads but also causes lower power factor in non-power factor corrected adapters. All the adapters are the same internally, they just put a different plug on the outside. The real power efficiency may actually be higher though since for more voltage in the current in will be lower and current is a major contributor to heating.
I've been using the 150W adapter for a week now, and I'm overall happy! It's actually quite hotter than I was expecting based on their marketing. The suction cup is weaker than I'd prefer (adapter still falls out when used at one property's old outlets). It reroutes the watts decently when I have Macbook Pro, iPhone, and Watch plugged in via USB-C, but it seems to take 5-10 minutes to figure this out (originally starts charging Macbook with 50W??).
Yeah, the power sharing I noticed would reset occasionally while I was testing and I kind of breezed over the fact that the power sharing details supplied by Anker are quite bad. No idea that one of the ports isn't full output power... Worried about labels ruining the aesthetic but then the finish on the product is rubbish so labels would've been nice. I'm curious if mixing the ports up helps with the power distribution figuring out.
Get a 6 inch extension with ground and that should solve your issue with the falling out (ground hole adds stability)
You have to place it with the wording upside down, it stops it from falling
@@AllThingsOnePlace i think the middle port is best. it does have a little logo of a computer next to it and an amazon review mentions similar issues with power negotiation and how the middle port works best. im kind of annoyed that this is the case tho, and im worried if that port fails then the charger is kinda fucked. might go with baseus or some other 140W one next time.
Hi just bought a usbc screw driver do you see any reason I cant use a 150 watt charger hopefully it would charge faster?
Just great work here ❤ Big thanks
You're welcome!
Hi, Thanks for the amazing content that you offer here, glad i found your chanel, i recently bought the gan prime 120w and when i was a bit close to the brick i heard noice in the charger, i unplugged it and the noise stays in the charger even when its unplugged for about 5 seconds, is this ok ? Or my unit has some manufacturing defect ?
A small whine or squeal is sometimes normal from power adapters. This is usually an inductor that didn't get tacked down quite right or has a slightly different manufacturing tolerance. That isn't a problem. Clicking, popping, buzzing would be considered not normal sounds for power adapter.
I've bought 737 120w recently, and its absolutely great charger, my mbp16 m1 charges simultaneously with air m1 with no problem, no overheat. It fact i strongle recomend it instead of original mac chargers. And with next gen type-c iphones, its can be ultimate charger!
Nice! Glad to hear it is working.
@@AllThingsOnePlace thanks to your review!
Serve pra xiaomi 8 lite??
Great channel you got going. I'm lost when it comes to the technical stuff but enjoy the information and details that go into it.
I have a question when it comes to the Anker 747 vs the Baseus 100w; two different chargers, I understand. However, I recently purchased the 747 thinking it would be able to fast charge my Macbook Pro M1 (140w), but it doesn't. In your opinion, is the extra 50w on the 747 worth the price over the Baseus 100w? Its main use would be to charge a MB M1 Max, iPhone 14 Pro, and an iPad Pro.
I used the Baseus 100W for a while doing three devices and had no problems. I've heard some people have some issues with power sharing. The phone would have to be on a USB A port with that one so wouldn't be max speed charging but still 10-15 watts so not that much slower really. On the Anker you could maximize the charge speed on the phone and tablet and still have enough to do well charging the macbook. I like that the 747 would have a bit of power budget so it won't get as hot charging multiple devices like the Baseus. But also you could buy two Baseus chargers for the price of one Anker... But yeah, no 140W EPR mode.
Very informative tests! I was looking for a charger for my phone, smart watch, and potentially other devices. I was disappointed that the 65W performed so low. Would you recommend getting the 120W for charging small devices together and/or individually such as phones, smartwatches, wireless buds, and portable consoles (Steam Deck)? I currently don't have large devices that charge via USB-C, so I don't think the 150W is a good idea.
I am currently using Google's 30W charger for my phone, my PC to charge my smartwatch and wireless buds, and the Steam Deck comes with its own charger.
If not from Anker, which charger would you recommend for the uses listed above?
The 120W charger is worth a try. I think the Steam Deck is a little better now with 3rd party chargers, but that's the only one I'd worry about compatibility with. The google 30W charger isn't a bad charger but yeah one port.
This is a wonderful review. Thank you! You should do a collab with ChargerLAB some day - by your powers combined, it's a wholly complete review!
Ha, I've been thinking that, they do the teardown perfectly, I do the technical measurement bits.
Damn. That's my plan out the window. I was planning on getting a 65w Anker to replace my giant laptop charger and to limit the charge speed for better battery health. Guess I'll look at others.
I mean if the goal is battery health then the 65W is fine, I'd get the single port 715 (65W nano II) Anker over the multiport though.
I just found your channel and learned about the Baseus chargers. Would you recommend the Baseus over these?
It really depends on your needs. Based on my testing and work with both yes I recommend Baseus 100w chargers (multiport only) but that is because they suit my needs. If 120W then Anker wins. I am daily driving the Baseus adapters. I use both brands though. The Anker Nano II 71* series adapters tend to get use because they are so small and Baseus does not have competition here. Anker is very compelling with these 120/150W offerings though, if you need multiple PPS fast charging Anker is the only way to go!
small suction cups to keep it from falling or getting lose, this is why UK plugs (G type) are the best !! I just imagine how terrible it would wobble around when you want to pull one of those 3 cables out ! This is not an issue with UK plugs. All of that is in addition to the safety feature of having earth connection in all devices.
Yep, hard to argue with that!
What adapter gives more than 65W ? Your technical review highly appreciated. It’s sad no consumer protection are active. Your Recommendation also much needed end of the review.
Within this review the 737 and 747 both can deliver 100W on one port.
The content I am looking for !!!! I got the 150W version and I don't understand why I never get more than 60W when I charge my MBPro and why my phone doesn't charge as fast as when I am in my car :( . The quality of info you provide is just top notch !!! Thanks for your work !
That sounds like the USB cable. The cable will limit power to 60W if it doesn't have an emarker chip in it, cables are usually labelled 100W, or 5A, or 240W or some variation if they can do more than 60W. In terms of car charging, not sure.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Yeah I thought that was the case but I was even trying that same cable with my apple charger and it went to 90W. Also, I tried the MagSafe Cable with my Anker 150W and I didn't manage to go above 60w ... even if my battery was very low on charge (20% ish) :(
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thanks for answering , that's weird because I can charge up to 80-90W using that same cable on an apple charger :() I ll try something else :)
Awesome content, just sub'd. It woud be cool if you made a video ranking the chargers (personally im after a 3 port 65-100w charger).
Yeah, I need to do a summary video on some regular interval since there are so many options out there now.
Another amazing video man. I commented on your other video for the power banks. Question: do I need a 100watt or higher power adapter to charge the Anker 737? or can any adapter do it? But then again I'm guessing lower wattage output means it would take longer to charge the actual power bank right? 😩
They'll charge from a 5W apple brick. It'll take a day but it will charge.
Which is safer for the macbook air m2 to use, anker 65w or apple 67w? Great channel btw and has subscribed. Thanks
Both of those are good choices in terms of safety. The Anker is a lot smaller and a bit more efficient.
Would like to see some more portable anchor battery comparisons like capacity and power out thank you keep up the good work
Yeah, I am slowly ramping those up. Just finished testing the smaller Fusion adapter/power bank working on the video now.
Awesome and unique review. Question. Will the 65watt Anker adapter, with its crap power delivery profile damage phone and tablet electronics or nothing to worry about? Or, simply put, if cost is not an issue, just go for the 747 adapter? Thank you for your time
If cost isn't an issue then the 747 is a solid choice, the 737 isn't bad either. I do use the 747 for laptop use. The 65W adapter won't damage anything though. If you are only using lower wattages (a phone or tablet) the 65W isn't a bad choice.
@@AllThingsOnePlace thanks for the response
Excellent video. Truth, truth, truth. Keep up the great job.
Thanks for watching.
I love my Anker charger, they’re reliable, extra port and doesn’t get as hot as the MacBook charger.
That is good to hear. Apple is not pushing the boundaries on that front.
The Anker 150w doesn't charge to 150 watts on one port...So which charger does, from the ones you tested that isn't rated more than 160w and that is actually at the same or better quality than Anker?
BTW...why your channel doesn't have millions of subs is mind blowing to me. Absolute quality stuff that no one else on yt comes anywhere close to!
There is only one charger that can charge at 150 watts on one USB C port, the framework 180W. It will only do that with the framework laptop at this time, but it is using the USB PD specification that anyone can use.
Thanks! It's a niche. I need to branch out more also YT wants a video a day from startups and I don't have time for that.
From what I can tell, the anker naming convention is 737 (first 7 is generation, second is number of physical ports, last is the output/watts?) See the 543 and 717 as examples supporting my theory.
Yep, then there's the A number, then the name of the product. It looks like the number scheme is to clear things up, then they started using it for power banks so you have multiple products with the same number. It isn't the best thought out system.
I wish I saw this video sooner, I'm using the ganprime 65w, should I keep it? is it safe for my electronics? I mainly using it to charge laptop (all day) and phone.
It is perfectly safe. It is fine for the electronics. It's minor but it uses more current than it needs to, to do the same job. Thanks to cheap subsidized electricity it doesn't cost much more to operate. Basically, 65W adapters all lack technology to 'clean up' the AC power usage so in general I either like smaller adapters (since the impact is more negligible) or larger adapters (because they mostly have correction circuits).
I have the Anker 735 65w adapter and will be getting rid of it. My laptop can run on 45w or 65w power, it works perfectly from the 3-4 compatible adapters I have. However, connecting it to this 65w adapter and booting results in a warning screen telling me the connected adapter is not powerful enough but it will attempt to boot, this screen must be manually bypassed on each boot. It also gets very, very warm.
huh, yeah, that's my least favorite of this bunch. I wonder if that is the dynamic power reduction in action on sensed heat of the adapter. I like to have a few spare watts to keep things cooler and running longer. So, I'm using the 165W Satechi daily now. Barely gets warm with a 65W laptop and three other things plugged in.
Very thorough review!! I still don't understand why the 65W is so bad? Because of the lack of PFC? Making it less efficient? What would be the impact for yearly use?
A small suggestion, I Would like to see the volume to power comparison as well(if possible).
PFC and THD, very high peak current demands (3-4 amps versus 1.5) are all issues. I am thinking of doing a shorts series on each one of these topics individually but in the end, yes, all of these contribute to what I call hidden efficiency loss. The power meter doesn't see it if measured per the specifications because you measure right at the plug so the real efficiency looks very good. Add in typical system components, outlets, wiring, transformers and these non-PFC and non-linear devices can cost a few dollars more per year (electricity is very cheap but as it gets more expensive this matters more) and also it puts load on the grid, that it doesn't want to deal with especially since it is non-linear. Obviously, larger devices mean more loss and more cost. Also high volume devices, there is a reason energy star light bulbs require PFC.
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@@AllThingsOnePlaceI already got the one with 65w, I understood there are power efficiency concerns, but what about safety of use? should I be concerned about using it with my devices?
@@castillo4141 These adapters are safety rated for use in the USA and Canada, so they, within reason, shouldn't be able to cause harm to the user or the device plugged into them.
You mention that the power split across the ports will re-negotiate whenever a cable is connected or disconnected. Does this also occur when one device finishes charging but remains connected?
It is device dependent. But, yes it can. My phone swaps between 9 and 5 volts during charging and when it does it resets the other USB C port momentarily. Not all devices do this though and some chargers have a power limit before port sharing so sometimes won't trip the other port (this is usually on larger adapters).
Really wish Anker would make the 150w adapter that has an option for a separate power cord so you don't have to plug it directly into the socket, like you can get for the Apple bricks. I guess you can attach it to an extension cord, but that's pretty janky. Suction cups feels like an iffy solution because wall-mount plates can be very different.
Anker is the first company I have seen try the suction cups. You will notice in the video I used a wall plug with a very flat plate. No chance of it working otherwise. I like the wotobeus solution of including both options, flippy plugs and an adapter to extend it as standard, but the 200W adapter I tested gets a little too toasty for comfort.
Thanks for your video, I love watching your videos since they dig into technical points. I have a question about the voltage drop for chargers: as I understand, the more power consumed the more voltage dropped, and the current is pushed higher to satisfy the power. Consequently, it produces more heat, what are the bad effects for the device consuming the power with the dropped voltage besides the heat?
And what is the acceptable voltage drop level for the PD profile 20V? Thank you so much!
Each device produces heat independently. The power adapter produces it from it's inefficiencies, which do happen to be tied to the current it is producing, the wiring through resistance and current contribute, and the device itself which decides what voltage to use for charging and what current to pull, has it's own converter and inefficiencies. The voltage sagging can lead to excessive current consumption if a device expects a certain power level though. So, one of these Anker adapters with a long cable can cause the voltage to drop below the 19V level, and that may trip the device on over current protection. This would cause a slow reset loop. The change from this effect is small, as the current is still around 5A at the 100W power level so going from 20V 5A to 19V and 5.3A isn't going to be a significant change in heat generated or power lost. The power is a variable though, the charger does try to maintain the voltage as well.
@@AllThingsOnePlacethanks for your reply, I totally got your idea about the heat generation due to the increasing of current because of voltage sagging to provide the desired power. It may trigger an over-current protection mechanism.
So, 2 points can be inferred from voltage sagging: heating and potential over-current occurrence. Besides that, are there any other potential damages in case of voltage dropping?
So would you say the nano 2 version of the 65 watt is better? Or they’re pretty much the same ?
The nano ii only has one port. It is a little more efficient though. So, they're different.
not sure if you still check the comments on older videos, but i have a question about the 747 and anker chargers in general. it’s seems like with the iphone specifically when charging will act as if it’s doing an on/off charge. each battery percent the charge notification pops up as if it’s just plugged in. is this ios software issue or maybe the charger specifically? and in your opinion will this effect the phone long term?
Yeah, that's not supposed to happen. You can try a different cable or a different port on the adapter, that probably won't help though. I surprisingly didn't have that issue with that charger but I know others have and it is a bug with the charger itself. Anker might send you a new one if you contact them with the issue.
Thank you again , do you think you’ll be doing the new anker series 7 battery with over 100 watts usbc output ?
I don't know if I have that yet. I have the 140W output one on the way though, probably September or October at this point though.
Can you review Anker 733 ? I'm curious on how good is the 65W with 10,000mah all in one combo.
Yeah, I have that one in the queue. I need to update the website. I could probably fill in the rest of the year with all the stuff I have in queue hahah.
Nice vid mate
Working your way through the catalog...
At 6:27 you mention the voltage drop, and I think (as someone who hasn't taken a physics class in many years) I understand the overall concept that to get to the goal power of 100W with a circuit that has more losses, you need more current. But that raises a question of, with more current, is it still safe to use?
Is there a way to control how much power each device wants to draw that we are trying to charge (phones, laptops, headphones, power banks, etc.)? Is there a way to control the charging so that you don't get a current overload and damage the device? Are the 120W (737) and 150W (757) Anker chargers safe for something like a M1 Pro MacBook Pro 14 where Apple markets its own 96W charger as the "fast" charger for that laptop if the laptop is trying to get 100W charging from one of the Anker chargers?
Thanks for your informative videos. No one else is describing the chargers from your perspective. I think as a consumer I can tell that a charger feels hot and that is a tangible sign that there is some energy being converted to heat and not being used to charge a device. Ideally, I would like to get a charger that is, above all, safe (not going to damage the device at the charging port of the device, and also not going to overload the charger itself and cause that to overheat and create a fire hazard), but also power efficient both during charging and when it is idle and not charging anything but I've maybe forgotten to unplug it from the wall. Additionally, it would be nice to have a charger that is convenient in the sense that the charger is versatile and has both USB C and USB A charging options for a variety of devices. I guess we all want that ideal.
So, the device decides how much to use already. The device and the power adapter 'talk' to each other, the device says I want 20V the power adapter says I can do 2 amps at 20 V and the device will pull something near that limit. If based around current limit then with an Anker adapter you only get 38W because the voltage drops to 19, in reality with a cable probably 18V so 36W now at that hypothetical 2 amps. If you use a 100W Anker adapter with a MacBook it will negotiate the limit. True on the ideals. Efficiency is complicated in AC but still less heat created is the goal.
eu tenho um Xiaomi 8 lite, quero o anker mais forte pra carregar junto com um Cabo mais rápido e eficiente que seria USB normal ou USBC !!!!
Qual anker e Cabo eu devo comprar???
Regarding the finish of the 150watt, did you make sure it wasn't a film covering?
Yes, it had a covering I peeled off and found that underneath. Not sure why it is like that. The other two were fine.
Great channel I just discovered it. I love buying chargers not for testing. I just like having chargers in each room ready to go. You have opened my eyes to the idle power draw. Anyhow, my question is, perhaps you could touch upon charging the Nintendo Switch. I know they don't follow the PD standard correctly, as such almost no PD chargers will say they can charge a Switch. I'm successfully charging my Switch with an older Anker 30w 2 port Powerport PD2 charger, model A2625. It only gives out 5v and 9v on PD, so perhaps I'm just lucky and this is how it is working for me. Do you recommend any current chargers that can potentially safely charge the Switch? I'm looking at the Amazon Basics 2 port 68w charger (USB-C and USB-A).You have not covered this one yet, but I need to have something for a MacBook Air and my Switch. Until now I would always buy Anker but you have shown they are not always the best. Keep up the good work.
Yeah, I try not to get too device specific since so many devices the entire video would be and this device... I focus on the item itself. The PD specification is supported by the nintendo switch dock. I am sure there are different generations of switch at this point also so these could all mean different things. side note the 68W gets a skip rating. I think the issue you will run into is port negotiation as I am not sure how the Switch and MacBook will play with each other on port sharing. I would actually recommend a smaller adapter that can do 15V/3A (maybe Anker Nano II 45W?) specific for that device. This is assuming nintendo switch dock, not a 3rd party, then all bets are off. These all put out 5V until the device requests more than 5V. If you have a USB adapter that constantly puts out more than 5V when not plugged into an end device then it should not be used (some security camera adapters do this, USB C ports are cheap, and these adapters will put in micro print 'not compatible with other devices').
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thank you for the reply, shame the Amazon basics is a no go, I like the two C and A ports, will probably pick up the nano ii 45W then.
great content. thanks
Glad you liked it!
Do you have a video for the non GAN versions as well? I was wondering if the normal 735 65w charger was ok compared to the GaN
I think so? I think the series name is different for the non-gan stuff so 5xx.
Note that the Anker 747 has issues charging many Lenovo laptops such as Lenovo Yoga 9i and Slim Pro. I have 6 chargers which are able to charge at 100 watts or more but the Anker 747 is only able to charge up to 13 watts on my Lenovo 9i whereas the rest can charge up to 90+ watts. Apparently there are some compatibility issues between Anker and some Lenovo laptops. These incompatibility issues are also mentioned in reddit by Anker users
Yeah, I guess anker did a software update on newer versions of the charger too. This was to make it steam deck compatible. Only charging at 13 watts is obviously some major negotiation problem.
Hi! Superb video again! I'd like to get a 100w adapter to charge my Asus G14 GA402 laptop while travelling. It has a usb-c port for charging (apart from the 240w barrel port) that requires 20v/5a. I saw that this Anker 737 charger has a little weaker 20 v, do you think this charger will still do the job? You always recommend the Baseus 100w wall charger (CCGAN100US) but from your videos that one also has a weak 20 volt (at overload around 19,193 v). So I guess it would be pretty much the same? Which charger would you choose if you were me? Thanks a lot!
The 100W GaN3 Baseus desktop adapter actually fixed the issue with the lower voltage. I am waiting for an updated version of the wall adapter with better port sharing and power output. They all will deliver 100W if the device can make use of it. There is so much variability device side that it basically comes down to how each device can use the power. I would expect the Anker or Baseus Wall, if the device has a 5 amp current limit to charge 5 watts slower versus a device with a stronger 20V rail.
@@AllThingsOnePlace yeah, I saw that the Baseus desktop adapter has a stronger 20V rail but I want to buy a wall charger which does not have the additional cable. It would be too much hassle to carry it every time I travel. So basically there is no good or bad option in here, basically as far as I see the Baseus 100W and Anker 120W have the same performance. I might just go with the Anker, since they have less problems with the quality department...
Hi, new viewer here. I've been eyeing 150W Power Adapter for quite some time now, but I also discovered Shargeek 100W Pro GaN Charger and Shargeek 140W PD3.1 GaN Charger with a competitive price. It would be greatly appreciated if you test them as well. I just want to know which among the Power Adapters are great to have.
Yeah, I have the 100W to review at some point. The 140W is a clone, the performance is the same as these: czcams.com/video/x4euVfT1ksk/video.html The power splitting may be better on some versus others.
We have used Anker the most both in chargers and USB cables. With that said, most of our Anker USB-A adapters have gone bad. Sometimes within a year, and others after 2 or 3 years or sometimes longer. Have you done any tests, or have any info, on their USB-C adpaters reliability rate?
I don't have anything specific, it's something manufacturers probably guard pretty closely too. It comes down to use and heat for some components, in general in teardowns I've done Anker's have been built safely and with care but whatever components get used I'm not sure, and how long those will last is also an unknown. MTBF analysis isn't so easy, I have a sidebar in the Anker 240W video talking a little about this... scratching the surface.
@AllThingsOnePlace Thank you. Very nice channel you have. Glad I found it.
It has taken me a few viewings of several of your videos to understand, but I think that I now get why the 735 is rated so low. I picked up one of these recently for £35 which sounds like a great price, but will probably be looking to replace when a Prime 100w comes onto a deal.
Ah yeah. The price matters. The new prime 100 is an impressive adapter.
in another video, you mentioned that the Hyphen X should not be left plugged in... this Anker ganprime can be left plugged in right? how about the Baseus 100W? is that also safe to be left plugged in?
Yeah, the Hyphen-X has a little extra power consumption under the idle condition versus the others. These Anker adapters all had lower idle power consumption.
I'm hoping that you can help me understand and possibly apply the info on your wonderful videos to my goal to pick a good charger that will work on airplanes. Lots of planes have power outlets that turn off if more than 75 watts is pulled. Typically, I'm trying to run just my 60w Surface Pro when on-board. When I get where I'm going, I'd also like to charge my S22 Ultra at 45w. *** Can a charger with over 75w work on these planes? *** Are larger chargers "smart" enough to only draw around the 60w that my computer wants when that's all that's plugged in on a plane, but grab more on the ground when I add my phone and watch?
Yes, that is a great point! You would have to go with a 65W adapter if the limit is purely power. The question is how the limit is set on airplanes. If the limit is set as a V*A limit then most 65W adapters will trip the protection circuit faster than a 100W adapter. This probably changes airplane to airplane. Would have to dig through miles of standards to find if the specification on that and what the options are. If the brick is larger than the rating and the device can pull more than available then the power then it will try to use as much as it can and therefore trip the protection circuit, they aren't smart enough to limit on the AC side. It sounds like there is a market for a middle ground adapter with PFC that won't trip and can use the full 75W rating, about 65W out and not trip a circuit sensitive to V*A also.
In terms of software limit, I don't know if there is a PC tool that can limit how fast the device charges as an alternate. 45W charging, then you can charge a phone and watch without worrying about going over the limit.
What is the charging output of the 65W charger when connecting 2 devices? Will it divide the charge evenly? Or will it max the first usb-c at 45W and the second at 15W, or something like that? Do you know the specific output for each port when connecting multiple devices? Thanks
That is the unique feature of these devices. The power will split 50/50 on the USB C ports.
Do you have a video on the best Anker Power bank? I couldn’t find anything. I would also like to see the best combination of wall charger and power bank. Great video overall!
I've looked at 3 Anker power banks so far. The best of the ones I've looked at is the 737 but it is a big power bank for the capacity you get. I do have more to look at so I will have more power banks in time.
@@AllThingsOnePlace thank you for responding! I bought the 335 power bank and the 313 45w charger. I’ll be sad if your review says the 335 is bad lol.
Looking forward to your review on slimq 330w gan charger
Wow, these companies are going watt crazy. Then again a laptop with a 40xx series GPU will probably need a small power plant to make it go.
Una pregunta AllThingsOnePlace... ¿El uso del Anker GaNPrime de 120w podría dañar mi portátil en un corto o mediano plazo?. Tengo incertidumbre si el bajo voltaje que este cargador arroja en el modo de 20V podría ser perjudicial para mi dispositivo. Gracias.
The device decides what voltage to negotiate for, the charger itself won't provide more than the device can use. It should be safe to use even with lower voltage and power devices.
You just keep going ha? so greatfull 🙏
Of course... I need to start mixing in more other content though.
Darn wish the 20V mode was working better. Oh well. Still a great charger!
Yes, those larger chargers are so close to perfect but at least these models are competitive in the market.
Could you break down the 65W for me? I'm a bit confused. So I see you don't really recommend it because it AC line current distortion is bad, lack of PFC, etc...But what does that all translate into for the user? Does it mean that is consumes more power than it needs to? Or does it mean that there's a higher risk of your device getting damaged when being charged by it? Pretend like I don't understand (because I don't haha). So just trying to understand what these technical differences mean in practice. Thanks, good stuff...
Yeah, the numbers are small but basically an uncorrected switching power supply (what the 65W adapter is) is very non-sinusoidal. When I show the graph of current voltage and power you want all those lines to be the same shape (power only flows in so it is always positive). When the lines are different shapes with each other these are harmonics that aren't the same as the voltage waveform. The more different these become the more current has to be moved around to do the same amount of work, work is power X time. More current means more loss (lower efficiency) since all components have real losses. I want the most accurate reading so I measure voltage right at the socket but if you extend that through some household wiring, transformers, etc. you find that the lower wattage (65W) adapter ends up using more REAL power (the kind you pay for) than a power factor corrected model at the same power level. I had a video planned on this but for some reason it never made it into production. That is kind of the trick, and it is a small number as electricity is pretty cheap, at least in North America. I did this comparison for 100W adapters for a video and with cheap electricity it is only a few $ per year but the real cost is worse since everything else in the chain has to be scaled up to handle the extra current. Power grids do this with large correction stations but they pay for the real power those devices consume although they can only do time alignment or phase correction if the wave shape is all that from switching power supplies you are out of luck. This is one reason why datacenter power supplies require power factor correction, also commercial locations pay for low power factor. Hope that helps a little.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thanks for the detailed explanation, it definitely helps. My biggest concern is regarding device safety. So if I am charging any device (phone/tablet/headphones), I can choose whether I want to do it with this 65W adapter or maybe a 120W or 150W. Now it's clear that the 120W/150W are more efficient from an energy perspective, maybe saving you a couple bucks a year and also better for society as it eases the grid. But in terms of the device itself, is a phone being charged with a 65W without power factor correction more at risk of being damaged or negatively impacted in any way compared to charging with a 120W/150W that does have PFC? That's what I'd really like to know and want to understand, if you could please explain.
I watched some of your other videos and think you do great analysis that's extremely relevant to educated buyers.
@@jonnytu968 From a safety perspective for both keeping the user safe and keeping your device safe Anker devices are actually quite good. They have good safety in terms of electrical isolation. The charging rate is actually determined by the device being charged. So, a 120W power adapter won't force 120w into your phone. The phone/laptop/etc. will decide how much to use.
Great discussion, very interesting
So if I understand correctly, from your testing; 65w chargers are typically less efficient than 100w chargers. But if a 65w Anker nano II charger is $75aud and a Baseus 100w is $100aud (a difference of $25), is the cost of the inefficiency over the lifespan of the charger (assume maybe 10 years?) really going to justify spending extra $ for a more efficient higher wattage charger when your device is limited to 45w charging anyway? Or would the costs of the inefficiency be negligible? I feel like a lot of people may avoid 65w chargers based on your findings without properly understanding things (myself included) when really the 65w chargers are perhaps not THAT bad? Do you consider it justified financially spending extra $ for a 100w charger when you don’t actually need the extra wattage? Love your work
I wouldn't buy Baseus if it is priced higher. But yeah, if you are charging a 45W device the cost change per year is very small. The issues I've run into with 65W chargers is not enough power or negotiation issues, I recommend the Amazon Basics 65W adapter since it is both efficient and compact, but it is a one trick pony, on the multiport ports drop to low power and then don't charge all my devices. Never had that issue with a 100W charger, always enough even after the power levels drop with lots of devices plugged in. The efficiency boost is a nice plus but probably only worth a dollar or two a year for the time the device actually spends charging. So, cost factors in a lot. If the Anker is cheaper at 65W, that has to weight in on the decision. I've adjusted my newer videos to more clearly take this into consideration.
Is there any USB power adapter (3 USB C + 1 USB A) with a power cable (not plugged directly into the wall) that you would recommend? I like to travel with one. Currently I have a Mophie Speedport 120 and I'm looking for a cleaner/better one. But I hate how the larger blocks fall out of the wall outlet. Recommendations? How about the Anker Prime 240W GaN Desktop Charger? Can you review that one?
No, haven't done that one yet and yeah, the larger bricks can be annoying. I use the 165W Satechi for most of my daily needs but it can have issues with some devices and no USB A ports. I am sure that Anker will make it eventually.
Hi sir, what brand of model can you recommend 140w or even 200w charger
I have some bigger adapters on the way soon and hopefully they will be better options than what I've looked at so far. Currently, the idmix 140W and the Anker 150W 747 are my top picks.
I'd like you to test leaving a MFI certified cable in one port without anything connected to it and see if it prevents the other port from achieving the max 65w. I have heard that the MFI chip interferes with multi-port chargers because it constantly draws power even while not used, cutting a 65w charger down to 45w even with just one device being used.
UGREEN told me that this phenomenon with MFI cables affects their chargers but I'm curious if Anker's PowerIQ 4.0 technology negates this issue
I just verified that it does in fact cut the power down by plugging in a MFI apple cable with nothing else connected. The second port drops to 75W for the 150W charger or 65W for the 120W charger.
Nice videos, in general! I have the 737 (Europe) but it barely charges my 65 W Lenovo laptop (it only gives it 5.8 W), so I will return it. All my other strange devices have no problem with it.
I'm really disappointed in Anker, I thought they are the best when it comes to power banks and chargers.
It isn't Anker, in this case, I've heard of cases where Anker will try to add compatibility to devices if they find some that don't work for future revisions. Dell, HP, and Lenovo lock out 3rd party adapters in software on some machines (mine included). It is very hit or miss to find compatible adapters with a lot of laptops unfortunately. They may have put a USB C port on them but that doesn't mean they have to be the same protocol. I use a USB C to barrel plug to make it compatible.
Does the 150W have adaptive power distribution? It'd be nice if you could make a video to check if any PD charger can have the adaptive power distribution - meaning it won't disconnect the power temporarily when connecting to a new device :)
It does disconnect and reconnect on each plug and unplug. Most of them do.
Thank you.
No problem.
I have your recommended Baseus 100w but it’s just too heavy for my light style of travel and I need to leave it home . Do you recommend the 735 for travel? If not, what light weight three port alternative do you recommend?
I'm still searching for that adapter. The weight/size difference is really not all that great from a 65W to a 100W charger. If weight/size is really a factor then I'd step down to a 30 or 45 watt charger. Like the anker 511 (30w), 313, 323 something like that.
@@AllThingsOnePlace The problem is that I need to charge my Macbook from it and also have other devices to charge. You would just avoid it? I don't care about extra energy use while traveling, and won't be using the 735 at home. Are there any other concerns with the 735 such as damaging my devices?
@@Sudovest8 No, it is a safe charger to use. From that perspective I don't see any issue.
Hi do you recommend the Anker Powerport 736 Nano II 100W USB C Charger, 3-Port GaN II Fast Compact Wall Gan Charger or UGREEN 100W GaN 4-Port Fast Charger 3C1A 3 Type C 1 USB A Charger for MacBook Air M2 (2022) and IPhone 13?. Would this power adapter affect the battery health for both devices? And also would this charge both devices faster at once without losing efficiency?
The battery health wouldn't be better or worse with either. I'd go with the Anker though if the choice is between those two. You should be able to max out charging on both of those devices, the laptop at 65W and the phone at 30W max, on the two USB C ports with either charger.
Love the content
Thank you!
I bought the GaNPrime 65W to charge a Steam Deck and it'll display that a "slow charger" warning that it is below the recommended; now I read that applies to the 120W and 150W chargers as well. I emailed Anker about it they said they'll "upgrade the current 9v to 15v to match Steam Deck's charging strategy".
To the current owners of these chargers, Anker gave me two options.
1. Keep the charger, they'll issue a 20% refund (assured that the charger could charge the Steam Deck with no issue)
2. Trade the 735 charger that I have for the upgraded version.
What's your thoughts on the GaNPrime chargers? is the 65W still bad a choice with the upgrade?
It is an odd choice of Steam to go with voltages and currents higher than the PD standard. Really, it should be Steam that fixes the steam deck to be compliant with PD 3.0 or PD 3.1 and not make power adapter manufacturers change their products to be proprietary for steam, that's a bit no... Not that other game handhelds don't do that... The battery voltage in the Steam deck is about 7.5 volts though so I understand making it compatible with anything 9V and up for "fast" charging. If Steam chose the PPS mode it could charge with any voltage and up to 5 amps with any ~45W supporting PPS adapter in less than an hour, with a battery that turns into a small furnace, or with 20V in it could do so and be mildly more efficient (buck converter has to do some work either way). Anyway, the 65W Anker is an okay choice after a software update. The power technology in that versus the 120 or 150w adapters is different enough that it would be much better if they updated those larger adapters. There are better 65W choices but they are all kind of not great. In either case, these anker adapters will do 45W into 15V no problem so I put the blame on steam, also steam deck won't charge that fast anyway (22W max charge rate). So, is it stuck in 9V mode or something? The adapters will still do 27W at 9V.
@@AllThingsOnePlace So from Anker support they state “Normally Steam Deck has a slow charging warning for two reasons: The input power is less than 30W OR Steam Deck didn't choose the PD 15V for charging. The slow charger warning is shown when using the GaNPrime charger because the Steam Deck does not switch to a 15V charging protocol when the charger is connected.”
@@Dragons952 Ah, yeah. Not going to the 15V mode is a problem to maximize charging and powering the device.
Do any of the adapters come in UK plug?
Can you compare the 150W with the UGreen 140W?
I don't know specifically on the plug. I've tried getting adapters with UK plugs a couple times now. They ship me the US one even if I order the UK one, ha. It looks like the 65 and 120W only for now. www.anker.com/uk/ganprime I am working on a tool to compare easier adapters so people can do the comparison themselves on anything that has been tested. For now, you can grab the data from each video and make the comparison based on your needs.
Hello, could you please help me choose, I am between the Anker 735 GaNPrime 65W or the Anker 735 Nano II, here in Chile the ganprime costs 45 dollars, while the nano costs 25 dollars. Is there much difference between the ganprime and the nano? Thank you very much in advance, your videos help me a lot
More than one port or multiple ports? The performance of the Nano II is actually better, it is a little more efficient. The 735 was a disappointment compared with the other Anker offerings but if you need more ports it will work. But you can also fit two nano II's in the same space as the 735.
@@AllThingsOnePlace wow thank you very much for such a detailed answer, and yes, I was referring to both 735 with multiple ports, only one has Gan Prime technology and the other does not
Hi, which one you'd recommend Anker 120/150 or Baseis 100/120?
Thanks again for your great channel.
Depends on the use. I am still using the 100W Baseus mostly because I do charge 5V devices (camera batteries) at low watts so those low power devices are a little more efficient on that adapter. The Anker is better if you regularly have a laptop or something larger plugged in: Laptops, Power banks, etc. The Anker is known to be not-compatible with some devices from what I've seen in the comments so far.
Have you tried Alogic charger? Not sure if that's available there. I'm from AU.Cheers!
I have not but I put it on the list. I need to expand into some other global markets.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thank you
You make mention of power quality on the AC side. what about the DC side? is it there any leak thru of AC power to the DC side with these things? how much of a concern is there with these in terms of safety for your devices?
Yeah, I mention more of the DC side in newer videos, it is important too. Also, leakage seems to be a growing problem with these adapters, as they allow enough for these thing to be annoying to use in safety standards but it makes the user experience unpleasant so I want to add leakage testing to future videos.
Based on your videos I watched so far, it seems that non-GaN chargers does have quite better Power Factor and slightly better efficiency than the actual GaN chargers. (Mostly can be seen at 10-25% load percentage)
Does that mean non-GaN chargers are better then GaN ones in terms of clean energy charging?
It is all about how the power supply is implemented. Many of the 'best in class' chargers are GaN based or a combination of GaN and SiC. Conventional silicon can get there but it has to switch slower and therefore has to be larger. SiC is great for higher power applications or for replacing diodes in certain parts of circuits (boost based PFC circuits for example). GaN is great for its low switching losses but in general they do have higher conduction losses. Tradeoffs have to be made. Cost is also a factor. The losses in other components make a big difference too. Bridge rectifiers, capacitors, transformer cores, output rectifiers/mosfets, etc. There are a lot of pieces to the pie. The primary switching transistor is just one of the pieces especially in the 1 or 2 amp primary range these operate at.
oh wow. I was really about to buy the 65w, now that the holidays sales started. but now I will skip it then. I want something small but with enough power for on the go. I don't want to bring my 275w massive and heavy brick that came with my ASUS gaming laptop, as I don't intend to game on the go, but use it for regular "office" work and/or video streaming. but I need more time than the about 5hrs very light @ low-mid brightness usage that the battery gives me. If you say non-65w are good, then should I look at the lower 45w or so, tiny ones? having the extra ports is nice but not a deal breaker. The other usage I'd give is as a "fast" or more efficient charger to my new iPhone. I bought Anker 100w brick that is big but still bit smaller/lighter than the factory ASUS 275w brick. I wonder if you reviewed it. It's the one with 2 usb-c and 2 usb-a ports, Apple like looking.
I agee i thought the same thing
65W is a tough category because the current draw from the AC side starts to get unreasonable (compared with other devices). They are still real power efficient but that isn't the whole story. In terms of keeping current reasonable and power relatively cleaner the 30W and under category is okay since the current levels are not as crazy and these won't have power factor correction either. The 100W category does step things up a bit in terms of size and weight and usually includes the power correcting features to make sine waves not spikes. Some leave out the corrections which are even worse than the 65W... Everyone's use is different and it is an opinion so if the 65W is the perfect device for you, do it, but hopefully from my video you know it is a little less nice to your AC grid.
Please make detailed video on anker powerport iii 65w piq 3.0 with interchangeable plugs eu/us/uk
I think the Powerport iii is in this video: czcams.com/video/zt7vur1H_Eg/video.html It is not a terrible charger but it is also not the best efficiency wise. I only tested it with the US plug, since that is what I got here.
Interesting. My 120w EU version, which has the same product number (A2148) has every symbol except the TUV marking (and a CE marking). Do you know what's up with this?
It is highly country dependent which marks get used. I'm not fully up on the EU rules, but the CE mark, a self declaration that you meet general requirements, is all that is needed to sell. A company like Anker does put the work, if it is lacking all the marks that is suspicious.
just rxd the 735 charger a couple days ago. Only cost me net $10....now I see it scores poorly in power quality. First video of yours I've seen. Question - is if I use it regularly, will it degrade what's plugged into it? A Surface Go laptop for example.
No, it's fine for the device, it'll just cost a few more percent to operate. Really, it depends on how many similar lower quality devices you have, one doesn't matter much at all.
@@AllThingsOnePlacecool. thanks for the clarification!
can you help me test the Belkin boost charge pro 65w? i really want to know the power efficiency of the adapter. It would be much appreciated if you could help!
Best Regards,
Perter
I haven't tested that one yet, but I added it to the list. The Belkin 60W is on the channel though so that might give a rough idea of the performance.
What is your goto charger in 65 w or 100w+? In the market for one to charger phone and laptop
My go to is the Baseus 100W desktop or wall charger. My only 65W choice is the single port Amazon Basics charger and my current daily driver is the Satechi 165W charger. The Anker 120W is not awful in this video and is surprisingly small for the power level.
In my experience with the 727, when charging my laptop at 100W and then adding another device to the other USB C port the charger actually stays live and renegotiates without turning output off. With both usb C ports in use, both drop all modes to 3A max so 60W peak.
The fun part is that my laptop (thinkpad P1Gen 4) will maintain battery level without charging when a charger switches from 100w to 60w, but will not do anything with a 65W charger (20V 3.25A). Wish all laptops had charging compatibility like MacBooks do.
Nice! Yeah, I've been testing and these and depending on the load the negotiation is very fast. These and the newer chargers are among the fastest I've seen. Others take almost 2 seconds to turn back on.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Also I think that the USB PD negotiation boards you're using behave differently than most sink devices would, since it seems that they default to 5V when they're given a new list of PDO's while connected. Most devices wouldn't select 5v, but rather select the same voltage they would on an initial connection. With my phone, that's 9V, and my laptop does 20V. I never see either one drop to 5V when adding additional connections.
The distinction between powering off the outputs and sending the sink a new list of PDO's is important to some devices like my laptop. Like I said, if it's presented with 20V 3.25A from the start, it does nothing. But if it gets 20V 5A, then the power supply renegotiates a 20V 1.5A mode, it will continue to run off of that. To be fair, this is mostly just Lenovo being stupid but it means I need a sufficiently powerful starting point in order to get any kind of usable USB C power into it. I got the ugreen 140W and it would power the outputs off and on, which meant my laptop said no whenever another device was added.
@@GeekyGamer167 I do also have ones that use fixed voltages also. I have been using them to get scope captures of the voltage changes during plugs and unplugs. There are huge differences model to model.
@@AllThingsOnePlace that sounds really interesting, is this something you'll be adding in future videos? When I was writing that comment I was thinking of an easy method to do exactly that and ensure the timing could easily be measured
@@GeekyGamer167 I was planning a whole video on just the timing and voltage changes around a project build. Usually takes a couple months of planning and figuring to get to the ready state on something like that. But yeah, I think it would be valuable to add to future videos a scope screen capture of the negotiation process. More work to do to make it happen though.
your channel is very interesting
Thanks.
can i ask you ? what usb c charger you recommend for razer blade laptop 16 ?
I have no idea off the top of my head.
Hi there,
Can you please review Nubia 120W 3 port Neocharger? Much support for your channel!
Thanks for the suggestion.
What does it mean when you say the 120w has weak 20v? I know you said it dropped below 19.5v at 3.8a? ... so if i have a macbook pro that says it charges at 20.3v 3.3a can it do it?
That is correct on the voltage, it drops below 19.5V. The unknown is what is the range of voltages the macbook can accept. If it can charge with +/- 2 volts then there is no problem. If it is a tighter tolerance then it may reduce the charge rate to keep the voltage in spec. It may work fine, but it is an unknown for me.