44th SADC Summit I Parties call on Zimbabwe not to host the summit: Thembisa Fakude weighs in
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- As Zimbabwe gears up to host the 44th ordinary SADC Summit of Heads of State and Government, South Africa says it has no authority to move the gathering from Harare.
Some political parties have called on Zimbabwe not to host the gathering.
Senior Research Fellow and Director at Africa Asia Dialogues.
Thembisa Fakude, joins us for more.
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The problem is the ANC the ANC is benefiting from the regime in Zimbabwe
100% correct ANC & ZANU PF same whatsapp group
@@jethromokwena2948 ANC don't own SADC..if u know it's purpose you won't beat around the bush
@@stanleymachona9016are you 3 years old? Who says ANC owns SADC? ANC supports Zanu pf and has an undue influence on SADC.
No the problem is not ANC the problem is Rhamaposa
@@sithembilechamisa2690 Ramaphosa is ANC
It's going to be very embarrassing let's wait and see. This time people of Zimbabwea are very angry. Anc is beneficial of the suffering of Zimbabweans
James. How do they benefit?
Say Oppositions are angry not people of Zimbabwe
Zimbabweans are going to embarrass you James. There's peace and stability in Zim
@@angelabaxter6298 read economics, Mr T MBeki & Sa GOVERNMENT wants the whole africa to buy from SA Economy, SADC TVs mostly are from South african shops like GAME , MARKRO, RUSSELLS --- wake up
How does a thief tell another thief to stop stealing 🤔
If South Africa can condemned human violation in Gaza by Israel why not in
Cause in Zimbabwe there are no Human beings but Shonas
@@deecee73-iv3gz what do you mean by that
@@user-rn3pd8yg9r exactly Black's don't matter even in the eyes of their own Black Brothers
Why South Africa blame Israel ,taking Israel to ICC,but not doing anything to zimbabwe
If Zim gets fine Zimbabwean people will go back even whites and ANC doesn't want that only Southafricans who can't read on economic lines
The problem is that Zimbabwe opposition members are under seige because of this summit. Abductions and mass incarcerations without trial. The summit is done on Zimbabweans blood red carpet.
@@ernestvurayayi1558 There is a lot of cases of fake abductions by the disorganized opposition parties in Zimbabwe.Chamisa has developed a skill in that area and that in a lot of ways has made Zimbabweans like myself dismiss most cases of abuse and abductions as just silly drama.
@@malcolmrunganga9723if its Chamisa causing those abductions why did the police not arrest him.The truth is that Zanu pf is invilved because if it was not involved we could have heard them singing about it in their Zanu Pf brocasting channels.Our police is the best when it comes to solving crimes like these why is it quite even if there is clear evidence of who killed or abduct people they don't take any action and yet you blame Chamisa for it are you serious.
Thank you Mr Fakude. A clear and substantial analysis on Zim issues .
On the contrary - there is an influx of Zimbabweans in SA because of human rights abuses - and this soft stance by South Africa is NOT helping in any way. South Africa is bisy depoting Zimbabweans - like sending them back there to be abused. 😢😢
Abused by who ????
People be serious if the opposition has its own scores to settle don’t bring that as human rights whatever. The only crime Zimbabwe committed is taking back its land.
Helping Zim it's a help to the southern Africa. We all know if Zim was ok this number of foreign could be better coz there will be a kind of sharing pple and problems in southern.
Why SADC leaders are quiet about Zimbabwe situation?
The sad story is that zimbabwe is only country with political prisoners in southern Africa.
And they living well...so i don't why these people try to meddle with Zim
Yet Simba Chitando and that Zimbabwean lady serving in SAHRC are busy dragging South African government to court day and night but ignoring to excersize their expectees in their own country Zimbabwe‼️This is where they must put their focus to better their country of origin ‼️
With all the suffering that Zimbabweans are going through at the hands of Zanupf, South Africa chooses to pretend as if everything is fine in Zim and goes on to intervene in Palestine/Israel dispute whose effect has limited effects to SA than Zim
South Africa as a country is benefiting a lot on situation of Zimbabwe,since Mbeki error now to Ramaphosa,
S. Africa does not own SADC, it is a member in terms of the definition of membership rights enshrined in the SADC Constitution. It does not have the authority to decide what happens in member countries but can assist in settling disputes. This is where ADC country leaders can engage Harare to find common ground on resolving differences in Zimbabwe.
And for what its worth S Africa does not have more power within SADC but can use its economic muscle to influence what happens in member countries. In the case of Zimbabwe, S Africa must have an even bigger voice since it bears the most brunt through the burden it carries by hosting over 200K Zimbabweans
But you took Israel to ICC hey
@@malcolmrunganga9723 but south Africa must condemn the violation of human lights like did in Gaza destance SA is our neighbor
@@andrewdematsanga3932 True they should and we all expect them to use their influence to help change the dynamic in the country.However, the problem is that they can not be on the forefront of such an initiative as a country because that can be viewed as interfering with the sovereignty of Zimbabwe. We the people must be on the front just like Gen Z is doing in Kenya, Nigeria and even Bangladesh.
I agree that one sadc country doesn't power to rule or change SADC summit but you don't need to talk to be heard but action speak louder than words if SADC countries just cancel to attend SADC summit without saying anything it send a strong message than to inaugurate illegally president to be your leader,what do you expect to learn from such leader
@@couragechiteke4883 SADC Leadership is unfortunately a grouping of birds of the same feathers
Ramaphosa conveniently says he has no authority to voice anything on Zimbabwe hosting SADC summit. But he was very pro active and vocal against Israel committing alleged genocide in GAZA which is 1000s 0f kilometres away and not say anything about the genocide happening right next door to him. He had the temerity to send people to the ICJ to prosecute the mnatter and make the world aware of the atrocities in the middle east. He is not keen on highlighting to the world the atrocities happening in Zimbabwe. This is hypocrisy at its worst. I rest my case.
Sadc must held in Zambia 🇿🇲 because Zimbabwe 🇿🇼 no democracy unless its rig rig rig rig
Even in Zambia no democracy
@@rodneystoddard2014 it's a rotational thing boss
Your president is arresting opposition leaders for no reason in your so called Zambia with democracy
@@rodneystoddard2014 right now there is an opposition figure who has been kept in hichilema jail as we speak..
@stanleymachona9016 Zimbabwe 🇿🇼 is a poor country to a extent that the is no water for bathing people are drinking sewage water in the city
Summit or no summit life goes on and we shall continue to prosper.
Mnangagwa has no leadership qualities, he's only keen on consolidating the Mafidi dynasty, doesn't raise a finger about the rest of the populace. The man is simply obsessed with shedding crocodile's tears (most of what he says is actually the opposite, indicating right but turns left). The worst of the two leaders Zimbabwe has had in the 44 years of independence. At the moment his attention is poised on SADC chairmanship at the expense of the majority.
Shame on you
If it is not entirely accurate does it mean South Africa has authority to change the program of SADAC?
Funny how SA sought fame fighting Israel in the ICJ leaving Zimbabwe nearby
@@Naphtali-gq8rf Zim is not at war with anyone
The government is at war with citizens
There is no war in zim, start the fight and the help will come
Bilateral relations promote freedom of movement,living and working together. So don't say pple are flocking in coming from Zimbabwe.,and you want to blame someone...they are where they are cuz of their choices. Do you think in zimbabwe their are no pple staying there. Pple are in zimbabwe as well more than those whom you are talking about. Opportunities are there in zimbabwe to develop your life. Keep quiet and focus your attention with the issues of your own countries. Leave zimbabwe to the zimbabweans.
There is nothing wrong in Zimbabwe. Rule of law must be observed. Those who are found on the wrong side of the law must face the might of the law, whether opposition or not.
Which hand of law are you talking about????, the law in Zimbabwe is in favor of the tyranny government, I guess you are part of it by yr comment 😢
Are you maybe illegally in South Africa
@@user-bd4zr4nu3c Says who?
What a stupid question?
You are a fool, Satan
As a Zimbabwean l would vouch for more summits to be held there in Zimbabwe lol.
I am sure all of these developments that occured in a shotspan of time are because of that summit.
From the modernisation of the beitbridge boarder Post,Airpost modernisation,New Parliament, Modernised Mbudzi Interchange,New roads and some of the things am not even aware thats taking place behind the curtains.
All this is happening because of that summit.
I noticed this government will use money only when theres a cause that might jeopardise their position, so yah ofcause l would love more summits in Zim.
Years back,,,similar thing almost happened as well when they wanted Zimbabwe to be host for World Cup ,even though come to light because of polical reasons,but if it had occured,they probably would be many developments in Zim.
Shame!!! South Africa.
SADC do not care about ED abusing the Zimbabweans human rights.maybe there are benefiting from the suffering of Zimbabweans
Africa l'm sure now you see how this political ball is being played, l mean how Ramaphosa was very vocal about what is happening in Gaza and he can't say anything about human rights violation that's going on in Zimbabwe, that's a sham,..you must know Zimbabweans flocking in to S.A it's because someone is benefiting and this thing is not stopping so South Africans you gonna need to accept us aslong your ANC is still behaving like this 😡
Why should we intervene and why when you have a problem in your own country you expect help from other countries don't you think we have our own challenges.
To advise your neighbour' child doesn't mean your children are okay,thus where Ubuntu works
@@couragechiteke4883 Advise yes but integrations no we can only speak but do not have jurisdiction to interject on any diplomatic resolutions for Zim our hands are tied
The Zims answering are here in SA,
CZcams is not owned by South Africa
Zimbabwe is capable and able hands off Zimbabwe the rising giant.
SADC is for the heads of state, don't politisise administrative work and political opposition. Zimbabwe hatimiswi nemi.Zimbabwe is not zambia, and mumba &hh are failures in their own country. Human rights are approved, for it to be a right...don't talk what you don't know. What do you say about what is happening in the UK today and also what happened to the opposition leader in America
Tell me you support the repressive Zanu PF without telling me you support Zanu.
People are being persecuted, arrested and killed for criticising the government and you’re talking about human rights?
Anyways, it’s very apparent that Zanu has failed the country and propaganda isn’t as effective anymore.
you should be ashamed pepelia what ever
Vicious politics in Zimbabwe 🇿🇼
Zimbabwe economy development has made alot of people jealous
What economic development are you talking about?.
Zimbabwe is pure now because of Zanu Pf
This man is paid to just make negative comments on zimbabwe viva zanupf ED for life we Zimbabwean we voted him to power😊
You and your mother voted for him
Musoro unematatya
Mhat$ Ya Mhamha wako
You are devil and all of your generation nxaaaa
That's nonsense, there's no reason whatsoever why the summit shouldn't be held in Harare.
Why can't Zimbabwe do the right things for its people.
There's 1 reason why not,HUMAN RIGHTS abuse being the major man one
Nonsense. Every SADC country has its own problems. Who can judge Zimbabwe?
tseke get away
Tichaona Jedi in 10 yrs when the script has flipped. Tichakunzwai imi veZanu makuti but dai South Africa yatibatsirawo. But ikozvino ha Musi kana chakaipa nezvirikuitwa naED.
@@bujubee9757 poor thinking. Every country has its own political problems
@@Zimbabwe. Tseke ndiwe. Irrational people who want negative publicity for our country
The loosers are bitter
GNU 😂😂 can’t handle Zim,
ZIMBABWE IS REALLY A PARIAH STATE, A BLACKSHEEP OF SADCC, ZANU PF SHOULD BE TREATED AS AN OUTCAST AND NOT BE ALLOWED TO HOST SADCC AND EMBARRASS THE CLEAN LEADERS OF THE BLOC
Are they clean?
You’re right
Summit in Zimbabwe yes please
Does South Africa owns SADC😂😂..no news here!
This hosting means nothing to Zimbabwe after SADC what are we going to gain mnxxxxxx
I think you are jealousy on Zim developments happening at the moment
Nonsense
What a development ? Suka wena nonsense
Zimbabwe is developing too fast has made the other group jealous
Which developments are yu talking about
@@user-cg7lw2ku7q are u blind or dumb?
I am in Zimbabwe... WHERE is these human rights being violeted????? maybe its 0.01% of the country 😂
Don't justify it, go protest and see what the police will do to you, it's even a crime to take pictures of them
Maybe you are privileged
Iwe nonsense unotaura zvinonhuhwa , unotiona setiri vakadzi vaMnangagwa nhaika .utikwanire iwe we are not for abuse
How much are paid by your rotten govt yakupa kutaura tsvina kuti there is no human violation in Zim go back to school nxaaa
Viva ZANU PF Viva🎉
Mhat$ yamai vako
You are a disgrace my guy
People are suffering my guy
Musoro uzere matuzvi nezanu yako
@@user-rn3pd8yg9r svotwa
This guy is talking rubbish
This guy is crazy. I'm in Zimbabwe and what he's saying is crazily shocking. Where is he getting these crazy ideas from
You’re the one who is crazy clearly
The whole world knows what's happening in Zimbabwe..except you
Mhat$ yamai vako
He is a paid professional for telling lie
@@deebakasa9929 totonzwa nemi makakudzwa mu environment yamaiwona mhat$ dzevabereki venyu. We were groomed in environments where respect nehunhu were pillar of our culture muno mu Zimbabwe 🇿🇼 nyeka yedu yatinodisisa
Come to Zimbabwe, noise makers are rubbish