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- talkSPORT's Simon Jordan reacts to news that Bayern Munich could be interested in Burnley manager Vincent Kompany who has just seen his side relegated from the Premier League.
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Just demonstrates to me how well sean dyche did at burnley
Not really. The standard has moved on since then.
Vincent kompany was part of the 'standard' you are taking about by being with city for years he had years of understanding the 'standard' under pep and has completely failed to adapt
@@stevenholden5517 the standard of the league is better. All promoted teams now struggling. Even with Dyce they would have only got another 6-10 pts tops and even that wouldnât have been enough had Forest not had points deducted. Theyâve a young, inexperienced side that arenât good enough.
Dyche proved to serve then better as he focuses on winning not a style.
Didn't they got relegated under dycheđ
Leverkeusen didn,t "get the nod", Jim, you bulb. They won.
I thought that lol
Bulb?
Must be a dim one, on its way out.
@@RoadsideGee quite right
The muppet thinks itâs the Oscars.
Listen, Jim White has always thought he was the star of the show that he should be at the centre stage ever since he first started in the media
Industry up here, Scotland.
I honestly think he must have dirt on some people running these media companies. Otherwise, why the F are they employing him he is not
a has been he is a never was.
I remember his when
I was very young
when he was the anchor for Scotsport on S.T.V
Or I.T.V if your English
they would have one live
Scottish Premier League game on a Sunday afternoon & he was a complete tube back then as he is today.
I find him totally over the top & out of his depth most of the time on the subjects he talks about on Talk Sport.
The guy is a Shlep
a lap dog.
After 10 games into the season, Kompany needed to change tactics. He just kept doing the same thing all year. They really had every opportunity to take Forest's spot.
If you mean change tactic by playing low block negative football then the answer is NO. Kompany has a philosophy
@@faridirwan7610 the point thoe mate is that a good manager adapts and changes tactics for what his got to go against how his opponents are, this applies to every team sport in the world. Kompany as admiral as it is to stand by his guns, what he was doing was blatantly not working and his failure to react adapt and overcome got a club relegated with out putting up any sort of fight all season. I guarantee if Rob Edwards of Luton had Kompany's players they would not of been relegated with his ability to get the best out of what his got and change tactics for different opponents. So why isn't he in the frame?
Yet bayern aren't going to be going into many games expecting to have to play defensive/passive tactics, Burnley's offensive tactics were spot on which is what Bayern play. for the record, i think this a bad managerial appointment, I don't think Kompanys tactical coaching credentials ruin it for him.
@@faridirwan7610philosophy means nothing if you arenât able to win games or stay up at the end of the day his philosophy got him relegation, Iâm a Norwich supporter so I know a lot about the yo-yo nature that some clubs deal with between the premier league and the championship and in my opinion I wouldnât mind if a manager who got us promoted briefly changed the tactics for a season or so to gain stability in staying up first before bringing in his philosophy in terms of playing the style he wants to play because it doesnât mean anything if you just get relegated the same season you got promoted. I think Kompany as good as he was as a player we donât know what heâll be like as a manager of a top club just because he played under pep doesnât mean heâll automatically become a pep like manager itâs more so about what a manager can do with the players at their disposal and how well they are at adapting their tactics to best fit the team not best fit his own idea of the way it should be played. You can put silk on a goat but itâs still a goat Burnley are that goat Kompany looked like he couldnât figure anything out over the season and they got relegated easily I donât understand why Bayern hired him other than his name as a player just like how Xavi initially got the job at Barca it could go well but at the same time this could easily go horribly wrong but weâll see itâs hard to go wrong when you have that amount of power behind you at a club like that but Iâm not convinced Kompany is good enough to be at an elite level club yet but only time will tell
His stubbornness cost Burnley. I was impressed by him until this season.
Burnley finished 8 points above Sheff United and beat them twice.
So for the rest of the season they were 2 points better than one of the worst teams in premier league history took one of their best players and spent a load of money.
Baffling the Kompany love.
This. The lack of criticism for the simply abysmal job Kompany has done is astounding.
didnt they spend over 100m too?
@@circle2867 then again forrest litterly broke ffp to spend way more to secure their spot in the prem and got like a 3 point deduction for it
They finished where they were expected to finish.... dont see the big surprise. They spent nothing
@@leonhughes9014 Do you consider 111M to be nothing?
Wenger, Klopp and Conte all got relegated in there first couple of managerial jobs, all have won a PL đ€·ââïžđ€·ââïžđ€·ââïž
But they didn't walk straight into a top job like Bayern.
Your point? They actually had managerial experience when they won the PL , they werenât just getting started. Besides, Bayern have got nothing to do with the PL
â@@MOH_AL_KPep didn't have any experience but what he had was a vision, that's what he sold to Barcelona'e board and the rest is History. Kompany clearly has a plan and vision and him being a Pep student just improves his CV.
@@planetebeautecali4485 LOL
â@MOH_AL_K it is a risk for Bayern but it can be a good signing. Kompany's Burnley was the best side in Championship history, it didn't go too well in the PL but with Bayern in the Bundesliga it could work.
Kompany arguably underachieved more than any other manager in the premier league this season. They won the championship on 101 points last season and finished with 24 points in the premier league this season. Granted they didnât have Tella, Harwood-Bellis and Matsen, who were three of their best players in the championship, but they spent ÂŁ100 million in the summer. If it wasn't for Forest having a points deduction, Burnley would have been relegated several weeks ago. Pathetic performance from Burnley this season. For me it was more embarrassing than Sheffield United's showing.
Players are beyond overpriced and overvalued......raheem sterling cost 58 million, cant shoot, pass, beat a man and lacks any football intelligence.
Pogba at 90 mil was awful...biggest flop in PL history.
100mil will get u nothing but a load of foreign hype.....ppl gotta stop using money as an excuse....its all a con based on 'invisible potential'
if we are being fair then Kompany should be now as tainted as Gerard and should never have a top job again....any season Burnley had under Dyche was better....u wont hear his name associated with top clubs tho
Or he could have overachieved the season before in the Championship?
@tomben6180 He did well in achieving 101 points, but they would have failed had they not come straight back up. They'd been in the premier league for many years and had year 1 parachute payments. He didn't underachieve this season because Burnley were relegated. He underachieved because they only managed a pitiful 24 points and never looked like staying up. Luton made a better fist of staying in the league, and they finished around 20 points behind Burnley last season.
I'm a die hard Burnley fan, and yeah you're spot on
Dead right mate. The money spent by Burnley versus the money spent by Sheffield United tells me that Burnley were the worst team in the Prem.
Why not? Burnley are playing much better football latterly, he is fully qualified, he has the experience of top level playing, he has a firm vision of playing football, Bayern have great structure and much better players, so his vision can be achieved. Who thought Alonso (another newbie) was going to do what he did??
How is Kompany 'fully qualified'? His experience as a player is irrelevant mate.
Itâs crazy times we are living in⊠if Bayern will offer a premier league relegated club manager a job!
Max Eberl is pretty much the best executive at recruiting coaches, look at how Dortmund poached almost all his coaches when he was at Gladbach, he always knows where to get Coaches that fit into the Clubs philosophy,
Not really crazy
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At this rate Bayern may call me next if Kompany turns it down đ
And me next if you turn them down đ
Need to win the champions league next season otherwise you are in big trouble at Bayern, remember the final is in the Allianz arena in 2025 , Bayern have to get to the final .
Didnt Klopp get relegated at Mainz? Not completely the same but he went on to be a great manager.
He took them up, got them into the UEFA then took them back down. Not bad.
@@burnaardnufc3173 yes I know its not exactly the same. He did a good job. But he still got relegated.
I think Bayern is a step to far right now for Kompany but just the fact he was relegated doesn't necessarily mean he's a bad manager.
Didn't Sir Gareth get Middlesbrough relegated before becoming Englands most successful Gaffer in 60 years.
@@SirHaroldMaguire let's not get silly now.
His Dortmund side were also in relegation form when he left
One of the key attributes for Bayern about Kompany is that he speaks German. But the job is too big for him. Bayern are looking at Leverkusen and wondering if Kompany could achieve something similar, but BL and BM are two very different beasts.
And he knows the league
Frank Lampard and Steven Gerrard are still destined to manage Chelsea, Liverpool and England in the future.đđ
In Western capitalism, failure is a precursor to a massive promotion.
@@Haydersublate đđ
Nope
Kompanyâs tactics and setup worked perfectly in the Championship, but were a disaster in the PL. So this could mean his players simply were not good enough to execute his tactics to the level they needed to be in order to win the PL or regardless of who the personnel was, his tactics wouldâve failed in the PL. Iâm more inclined to believe the former than the latter and if the rumors of Bayern are true, it seems theyâd more inclined to believe the same thing
He not good enough my guy championship is Scotland league gerrard won that
@@andrewwright4195 So what youâre saying then is that Bayern are complete fools and have no idea what theyâre talking about?
no ...they just had good loan players in a transitional league with no other threats.....what burnley did in their promotion season...wouldnt have been easy to do THIS championship season ....with ipswich, Leicester, Soton, and other teams in better form
@@italianplastic23 stop making excuses he did bad job got to adopt
@@italianplastic23 Interesting point. I was just throwing out my opinion on it. The one odd thing is that even though you raised good points, why would Bayern still be interested in him?
Same guy judging Kompanyâs early days in management, as the one who says tuchel is only a âcompetent premier league managerâ.
Max Eberl at Bayern is probably the best Executive at recruiting coaches as he typically focuses on scouting all kinds of coaches recruiting them into the clubs coaching setup and building a robust coaching infrastructure within the club, he transformed Gladbach in this regard.
Yes, but Uli and KHR are pulling his puppet strings; they'll be a limit to what he can do.
YouÂŽve got to be kidding. Max Eberl did a decent job at Gladbach, was then dismissed after a short and unsuccessful period at RB Leipzig and got the job at Munich because the King of Bayern Munich Uli Hoeness needed a submissive and obedient servant to dial the phone numbers and cut his bread rolls.
@@BO-kh1iz Should that be sausage rolls?
@@BO-kh1iz Eberl just has good methodology when it comes to recruitment of coaches as he just doesn't focus on recruiting the first team head coach, he builds a coaching infrastructure, recruits up and coming coaches for the youth set up etc, Gladbach had the most success under him, with Favre and the Rose but also on producing and selling young talent...The period under Max Eberl is regarded as Borussia's most successful phase since the titles of the 1970s. Since Favre's appointment in particular, the club has finished every season in a single-digit position in the table, something only Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund had achieved in this period. They also reached the Europa League and the Champions League three times each in those nine years.
Eberl's tenure saw many notable transfers with Dante, Marco Reus, Granit Xhaka, Christoph Kramer, Max Kruse, Lars Stindl, Matthias Ginter and several others, as well as a number of successful players from the club's own youth ranks such as Tony Jantschke, Marc-André ter Stegen, Patrick Herrmann and Julian Korb.
Eberl's contract was extended in December 2020 until 30 June 2026.[13] At the end of January 2022, he stepped down as managing director of sport due to "exhaustion".[14] He was subsequently released before a contract termination was agreed in September 2022.[15]
''Got them relegated''. As if Burnley would have finished top half with anybody else.
Sean dyche kept them up for several years
Getting relegated is one thing, finishing with a pitiful 24 points is another.
@@benphipps6498but getting them promoted and playing good, albeit ineffective football is something, tho I prefer anti football if it brings results
Of course....with a defensif style. No doubt about that.
A decent manager who could adapt would have that team minimum 17th
He might do alright with a decent team.
Lack of tactical awareness
@@Ruscococo1But he will have better players. His tactical set up is designed to dominate if he has the best players
â@@Ruscococo1naah the team played well ..they jhst cudnt finish for love of god..the amount of chances missed wud make gabriel jesus and nunes look like lewandowski
â@@marcus8030 He wasn't tactically aware enough to realise his Burnley squad weren't good enough to play his tactics. Now Burnley have been relegated. He's selfish and stubborn for doing that
@@burnaardnufc3173 His tactical are made for teams like Bayern however
I dont expect Simon to understand Kompany's mentality because Simon is not a winner. Same argument that Simon uses for Southgate (totally correct IMO). All Simon knows is how to run his mouth unchallenged on radio.
Can you fail upwards? Solsjkaer and Southgate
Southgate has been failing in a declining 1 degree angle.
Andy Bradbury fell on the ascent in a lift once,which should count.
I can't believe Bayern are in for Kompany, he doesn't deserve such an opportunity at this stage of his career
"Kompany did a reasonably decent job at Anerlecht"? No he didn't.
Who ever goes Bayern will have to deal with the Kane trophy curse
SJ pretty spot on again. Huge surprise for me. If Bayern go for him it's a huge gamble
I can see it working
The incredible thing is the fact that Burnley have asked for compensation !
Jordan says the opposite for the sake of it đ
Mostly right though.
Even a broken clock is correct twice in the day
What Jordan says always seems to have a logical rationale.
@@andiharper4498 Jordan says things that are logical from a ridged lens a lot of the time its very flawed flowered in flowery language
Like Barristers do
Tella & Maatsen both played for Burnley last year, Maatsen is in a Champions League Final & Tella could be on the brink of a treble!
Tella doesn't play tho, he is a sub at best
One word, Disaster.
Why couldn't Kompany be successful at Bayern? First give him the chance and then judge, the other way around is just silly empty talk.
Fair enough. On the other hand Bayern is a club whose own benchmark is to win the league every season, win the Cup every season and at least make it to the semi-finals of the Champions League every season.
he won the league in Belgium in his first job.
As a Burnley supporter, PLEASE take Kompany! We didn't want his one-dimensional, stubborn tactics anymore.
Steven Gerard is a a can of shoe polish away from landing the Bayern job i guess.
Ridiculous!
He won 5 matches last season! Five!
Flick wasn't a big manager when he took over the club
Would of been interesting to see how he got on in the championship this season if they were in it. The year they went up wasnât competitive across the board at all if you watched it and they still had so many draws.
Tbf kompany wudav done good had burnley had a striker to finish the chances created ..they had the worst finishing ever
And horrific defenders too
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It's Fantasy league manger time - Rooney for England manager đ
I agree with what Simon is saying once again but, I will say, I do think Kompanyâs style would work for Bayern. Coupled with Leverkusen probably being unable to replicate this season, I think he could be successful at Bayern.
Pep guardiola would get relegated with Burnley. I admire kompany for taking it on and gaining the experience. something that Pep or Jose would never do in the premier league.
No he wouldnât. Thatâs a ridiculous statement to make. With all peps experience are you saying he wouldnât get another 3 wins more then kompany?
What has kompany done to be speaking about him in the same sentence with pep and jose. People like carrick are his level right now.
Proper "trust me bro" comment
@@sim-ej3xn Pep wouldn't do much better. Jose though, he would do better than them both with Burnley.
This is the most bullshit thing I've ever read
As Victor Meldrew would say "I don't believe it"
Wow đ they really have run out of options, he has done a decent job to be fair
What was expected from Burnley in the Premier League⊠top six!
Burnley didn't have the quality to play the style. I didn't he's a decent coach. Give him good players and you'll see
Who's faults that who wanted them players?
Simon absolutely spot on here.
this modern fetish for untested managers at elite clubs has to end!!
Kompany will do well at Bayern,watch this space
I don't see how SJ can be so surprised, Kompanys style of play would work at Bayern where he would have the quality of player who can execute it.
If he stayed at Burnley they would win the championship at a canter like 2 years ago and play great football because that's the squad's level.
I'm not, i'm also very surprised by this news but it's all opinions I guess
Ah yes, transfer window crazy rumours have already started. I'm surprised a channel like Talk Sport is even entertaining this..
Is this sarcasm?
@@Looney-toon
If Olie can manage Man United for 3 seasons; and an untried, untested Arteta land a big club like Arsenal; then why shouldn't Kompany get a shout for Bayern?
His playing style is elite, personnel, below average. With way better players at Bayern, its a good signing as the players at Bayern will be better able to carry out what he wants.
This could be a great deal for bayern
Yeah if your Leverkusen!
Guardiola used to manage them say no more
Please don't forget Ancelotti, he was a great player
Frank Rijkaard relegated with Sparta and won everything with barca afterwards. Maybe the Munich players will get what Kompany wants?
His nemesis Ten Hag just won his 2nd trophy in as many seasons. Haven't seen anything new uploaded from them yet đ
Vincent never changed his style. Trying to play attractive football should not be confuse with winning points to stay up.
Love him or hate him, Simon always has a different point that you didn't think of.
He will do well. He has experience and he has better players
What happened to Tony Pulis?
Bayern and Chelsea need this typa treatment from managers
So thatâs Kompany to get the Bayern job, and lead them to the European Champions League title next season, then. Some fans of PL clubs, are ignorant beyond belief.
No praise for gaining 2 Home Wins for Burnley out of the 19? Harsh,,,,
Dyche ball would have kept them up. He got the job done comfortably at Everton
But if you live in a country with the football competition that gathers the most money it doesn't mean you are automatically an expert with a great football mind. It means that you are a wishful thinking hopeful watcher.
Post at spurs would do ok at Bayern in my opinion I think Post would actually be a good fit at Man Utd
This story has been reported multiple times by reliable sources including Fabrizio Romano. Iâll trust those rather than the football experts commenting what a load of rubbish on CZcams videos.
If Graham Potter got this job, Simon would be singing a different tune. He canât hide his true colours. First Salah now Kompany.
Well done Man City for getting the nod this season.
Vincent got them to the premier league playing good football. His job is to play his way and not go route one or change style dramatically. He has his own image at stake rather than sticking the place out but while getting results. Bayern wouldnât come calling if he kept them up while playing negative football
I think Kompany will surprise everyone. He will world class players at his disposal
My choice would be Rainer Winkler. Not a well known but without a doubt upcoming Manager Talent. Bayern needs to get him.
Listen to Canât Get Enough by Bad Kompany. He might do well with that hit!
Ive been following Burnley match this season. For top level football I think Kompany needs more experiences. I feel very pessimistic for this.
Sometimes his decision are questionable. How come he didnt use key players which bring him promotion. And squad depth is very lacking.
I was a second rate manager on FIFA 9, think I'll apply for the Bayern job!!
Kompany didn't change his approach because he was looking beyond Burnley and wanted to remain true to his principles, even if it was at the expense of Burnley.
I'm not surprised they're considering going with kompany,
Sure he relegated a team to championship but we have to take into context who he was coaching...
With Bayern kompany would be free to go with the brand of football he wants to play cause he will have top quality players in every position and some...
Sorry dude but way off ,the team that won the championship was better then the team he assembled for the prem, they were the players HE brought in over the season he's not learned and it was him that cost us a prem place ..bayern na he is at this point a championship standard manager ..tip if he gets the job then bet on lever winning the lot next season I will
Bayern is gona put Kompany until the manager market is better. There's no one in the market right now .
We could also make the argument that Sheffield played exactly the way you wanted Burnley to play and got easily relegated with record numbers in the negatives....
I believe kompany would be great with Bayern Munich....
Roberto Martinez is a perfect example of failing upwards, Eddie Howe as well
You have to admire Komany for his want of trying to play good football but you have to adjust and improve and he never. Bottom line he got them relegated with soft football. So he failed this season, heâs still a young manager and no doubt could get better but still a big gamble for a top club to take him on
Foden MUST play in the middle. With Bellingham. Rice behind. Maybe even Stones Joing Rice and A three man defence of Walker, Braithwaite and Shaw
Maybe they went for a Nagelsman with a playing career.
Just proves footbsll is in a dire state such a lack of quality everywhere
Pep didn't pivot, he was close to a potential boot, they said no way can you play out from the back in the prem, the board stuck with him and here we are.
You've got Oxford next season. Wassa le problem?
@@Isleofskye be reet. Can't take away what we've achieved. Been in worse places
@@2010LeeG Well Said:)
Wouldâve prefer Kompany at west ham
At least the shirts are the same colour, would make it an easier transition đ đ đ đ
Agree with Simonâs comment
Given that Bayern got through managers at a fair rate of knots, successful or otherwise, then Kompany won't be there for long. Strange choice given his short resume. Wish him well if it actually happens.
Arteta would have relegated Arsenal with the tools he inherited. It took him few transfer windows before results came. The brand of football Kompany wants to play aligns with Bayernâs philosophy, and he is gonna have the players to execute it. He is smart, articulate and from Pepâs school. I hope he succeeds.
Heâs not Bayern management material.
Harry Kane trophy drought about to go on it seems! Bizarre decision
People think you have to be a Pep now forgetting other top managers who _actually_ started from the bottom, got relegated!
Klopp got relegated, look where he ended up!
Strangely if kompany changed his style and Burnley ended up staying up, clubs like Bayern wouldnât be interested
3rd with anderlecht wasn't a decent job in anyone's book.
Mister Jordan is completely and without doubt right in his analysis about Kompany,which failed this season because he played City football at Burnley.
At Burnley.
Kompany lead Burnley into Championship again.
Next year the CL final is in Munich and they can't find a manager.
And now the number 300 in his list-Kompany
After him Mark Hughes,Frank de Boer or Louis van Gaal will come.
My solution would be Klinsmann or MatthÀus!!!
Kompany like most managers has no plan b
German teams have always taken punts on managers. Their whole philosophy is different. Klopp was interviewed by both Bayern and Dortmund after getting relegated with Mainz, and that worked out well. The idea is that a good coach will thrive in the right setup. You can tell a good coach working in a bad environment from a bad coach who keeps getting bailed out by the setup around him. Klopp, Poch, Mourinho etc have all achieved with lesser resources and makeshift teams. Ten Hag has failed outside of Ajax and their structure, same as Jesse Marsch outside of Red Bull.
Kompany did a rubbish job. Not good enough to manage Sunday league.
This shows why simon is a limited owner and boss.
Rather than anything bad about Vincent
Worse case scenario he comes runner up in the bundersliga and quarter final of champs league.
The squad does that it self.
Worth the gamble I think.
Final is in Munich next season, we have to get to the final at least, otherwise it's a disaster, I think that's why a lot of other managers didn't want the job .
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Kompany is just one of those guys, for whatever reason people in the business love him and are desperate for him to succeed, and theyll give him opportunity after opportunity.