I think I already gave a thumbs up comment to show support and help your algorithm. But I’ve actually watched this vid a couple of times so it’s worth another comment. To be able to make this vid, 1) you have to had experience with the plant craze the past few years, 2) you have to have cared enough to notice and remember what was hot and now isn’t, and 3) you have enough context and confidence to voice a strong opinion. Love the storytelling here and implicit lessons for plant collectors found within. Please continue to be opinionated. It’s an informed opinion!
Wow! Thank you so much for such a kind and thoughtful comment. So glad someone out there finds my very specific special interest to be interesting. This one was a fun one ✨🪴❤️
I personally love when a plant flops. Then I can get it for myself on the cheap. It took me a while to stop chasing trends and simply buy what I love. For example, everyone dogs on pink princesses. I love them. I always have maybe 4 stems growing per pot so there’s always some pink happening. I just personally love them.
I do think that some of the new batches hitting big box stores now are better quality than some of the ones that we were seeing for a while there. I saw some at Home Depot the other day that looked pretty good. I’d probably be open to trying them again once I have more space.
I agree with you about the variegation trend. Imo it appears that people want variegation because it's rare, not because it looks good. The first time I saw a alocasia black velvet varigated, I was in shock about how deformed and sickly it looked compared to the original.
I am digging this content. Please feel free to roast in future videos 😅 also thank you for going through a whole bunch and not just, like, 5 or something. It made it so much fun to watch! 😂
I never knew the story on the “mutant” manjula. They were being sold locally (FL) last fall for 25$ for a 4” pot. That seems reasonable for a manjula variant. Love to see plants become accessible for ppl who want them. Fun video!
A greenhouse near me had an Ep. Pin. Albo for $700 today on a plank. Yes it was big and pretty, but only had 1 or 2 super variegated leaves. But like, they need to get real with the price. They had the mutant manjulas today too and they wanted $180 for it😂😅
I wonder if they price these super high because they are part of the owners private collection. My Epi Pin Albo grows like crazy. No need to price so high. I saw a 400 ugly pink princess at my local nursery?! They are selling better looking ones at big box stores.
Question: I feel like the big box stores carry mostly tissue culture and not a genuine prop from a natural mother plant. Do you feel that or am I missing something? Thanks y’all! 🌿🌿💚💚🪴🪴
The tandurosa is tainted for me too. Beautiful plant, but I could never enjoy it because I knew it was poached. I had one, but sold it on after a year. I didn’t wanna look at it anymore 😂
How about p. lupinum and p. camposportoanum? i’ve seen a lot of people haul these plants a while back, but you don’t see anyone with mature specimens now.
My campo has turned into one of my fave vining plants. I stopped caring about the maturity and it grows like a weed and is a giant that is much easier than my micans. It barely loses leaves with neglect and sunstresses into deep velvet with lime and occasionally pink highlights that keeps it interesting
@@Sarah-zk4jeooooo that sounds great… tbh I’m not so sure I remember the campo ever being that outrageously expensive… I think back even in 2020 they could be found for like $30… I could be wrong but I don’t think those were ever like $$$ or $$$$
@@PlantFriendDownTheStreet True, it wasn't as outrageous as some. I traded for a cutting, but I think my friend got it for around $50 for a small plant at the time.
@@PlantFriendDownTheStreet Oh it won't let me link it but if you google theseedqueens it's in seedlings! Let me know what do you think I really appreciate it 🤩🌱💚
My first Brandi was a drama Queen. I got another one in a trade because I think it’s beautiful. This one is giving me zero problems. Fingers crossed she stays happy.
Great list- love your plant knowledge. Yes, I bought several of these plants when they were pricey. I still love my Gabby and mutant manjulas. How about the Syn. Strawberry Ice? What a waste of money on a plant that wouldn't variegate? 🤦♀
TYSM! Syngonium strawberry ice was in my “most cancelled plants of 2023” video… I don’t really have scientific criteria for plants that are cancelled vs plants that flopped and it’s mostly vibes-based so I agree that one kind of walks the line between cancelled and flopped. I think for a while it was pretty sought after and I felt like the price came down with the market but idk. Good call out ✨🪴❤️
Yeah, I have some regular manjulas and they are the SLOWEST growing plants. Over a year old and out of 3 bought- all 4" pots- only one vine has just started... which is almost fully reverted. I would have been so mad at myself for trying those sport ones!
I have an amydrium silver that is one of my fastest, easiest growers. In all fairness, mine is the prettiest I’ve ever seen lol. Have it growing up a cork board and it gives leaf after leaf with no runners. They need lots of light and do really well on cork! It’s growing outside right now in Eastern coastline heat.
when I saw the amydrium at first, I didn't know why they weren't more popular. they are sooo cool! I just got my first one in the mail today so wish me luck :S
Oh dang! I really hope it does well for you! I’d def try to up the humidity and ph balance your water and maybe look into what kind of nutrients they like.
I agree on the variegated anthuriums. There are a few I've seen on like Onlyplants vids that look amazing, but people get so excited about variegation, even if it's ugly or pointless. It's a bit like how people flip their lids over a one-inch spot of sport variegation on a monstera. Like, it's not that thrilling.
Seriously! Or the “is this variegation” posts in plant groups. Like no, it’s diseased, or damaged or overwatered, but even if it was, why would you even want it?
Finally someone agrees with me that variegated anthuriums look UGLY. Diseased-looking, yellowing variegation is in no way more beautiful than the dark green, velvety sheen of anthuriums.
I really like your show. You are so informative. I disagree with your opinion on the Jackyln. All plants are poached. At some point, someone took them from the wild and grew them in their homes and/or shops. I think what you meant was that the person should have reported what they found as a new species and then applied for the proper paperwork to take it/name it. Unfortunately, we d9nt really know where any of our plant babies come from except the ones grown in labs or tissue cultures. Sad truth.
Thank you! But what happened to the Jacklyn isn’t my opinion, it’s what happened and your assertion that all plants are “poached” isn’t quite correct. Poaching is when someone removes plants illegally from a location where they are not authorized to remove them. All plants are collected from the wild at some point, but depending on the laws where the plants grow in the wild, there are many different ways to legally collect a plant from the wild that is not poaching. Examples would be someone collecting plants from their own private land with proper permits, collection for scientific research, or removing invasive species from public land, which is oftentimes allowed and even encouraged. The Jacklyn was poached by someone who removed them from the wild without proper authorization and then propagated and grew them for commercial sale illegally. It wasn’t a new species, it was already named “tandurusa”. And I agree with you, it is sad!
@PlantFriendDownTheStreet I didn't mean to come off b****y. I'm with you. I think ILLEGALLY removing anything from the wild, plant, or animal is disgusting. I have a Jacklyn, and maybe that's why I was so overly emotional about it. I enjoyed having it until your vid. Now I look at it side-eyed 🤣. If it was, in fact, poached, SHAME ON THE PERSON THAT DID THAT! Poor plant. I love your channel, and you've given me some great advice.
No worries! At this point, I don’t think there’s any need to feel guilty anymore. They’ve entered circulation in big box stores and plant shops so they’re not going anywhere. It’s highly possible that the plants in mainstream circulation came from another source so if you’ve got one and you like it and you’re taking care of it, I don’t see the harm. I think the original offender got shut out pretty fast. 🪴✨❤️
The epi marble was on my list, until I figured out it’s really an albo raphi I want. 😂 Until it fenestrates, marble queen for the win! Didn’t realize Jacklyn was poached. One of my favorites. Always wondered why the price crashed. Thought it was because, well, Alocasia. Enjoy these type of videos. And I like you much better than that other influencer, even without the accent. 😉
I just watched nick pileggi fan girl over an epi pinnatum marble, and people are definitely still excited about them. I got mine accidentally so it's been interesting to research. I think people expect it to be like a marble pothos or snow queen and just grow like crazy.
Yeah but I bet Nick didn’t pay $1200 for one like sellers were asking when they first came out! I do think they are are cool and pretty, especially for the prices nowadays. Back when they first came out, people were hoping that they would grow more like a monstera so they could grow out to look like Albo monsteras. That’s great that you are enjoying yours!
That is disgraceful… someone else commented that the reason those plants disappeared was because they would inevitably self terminate and if that’s the case, selling one for that much is even worse 🤮 honestly
When you talk about “big plant influencers” like who would you be referring to? I really don’t know but would like to learn more about the plant world on YT. Thanks!
Hi! So this isn’t an exhaustive list but the bigger channels that Ive watched include like Planterina, Harli G, WildFern, Becca de la Plants, Nick Pileggi, and Kaylee Ellen to name a few. I think any channel with more than idk 50k subs is kind of big. Planterina had almost 1M last time I checked. Hope that helps!
@@PlantFriendDownTheStreet Oh yes, I have seen Planterina but not any of the others. Thanks a lot, it is very helpful. I just came across your channel today and really like it. 👍
ah I love my epi. pin. marble, but I got it as a tiny rooted cutting for $20. It's been giving me probably a leaf every week or 2 and just got its first fenestration :) but honestly that just confirms that no one should pay that much for it. it grows way too quickly to justify paying hundreds of dollars edit to add, I live about 5 minutes away from Gabriella Plants in FL and I had no idea about the drama with philo gabby. i'm so out of the loop lmao
Epipremnum pinnatum are hard to mature? What are you even talking they are know to size up fenestrate quick. Also I think Epipremnum marble king have a niche *because* it looks like a more interesting version of marble queen.
Epipremnum Pinnatum Marble is a favorite of mine, but I'm glad that it flopped! I don't usually go for variegated plants but I wanted at least one in my collection that would look like a statement piece. But I'm not willing to pay the exorbitant prices of the albo in my country, and I'm honestly over them because they never crashed down in price. That's why I love the epipremnum marble, and I even prefer the shape over the monstera. I also don't have that much luck with growing monstera, but I have grown pinnatum varieties in the past so I have more experience with them
I think I already gave a thumbs up comment to show support and help your algorithm. But I’ve actually watched this vid a couple of times so it’s worth another comment. To be able to make this vid, 1) you have to had experience with the plant craze the past few years, 2) you have to have cared enough to notice and remember what was hot and now isn’t, and 3) you have enough context and confidence to voice a strong opinion. Love the storytelling here and implicit lessons for plant collectors found within. Please continue to be opinionated. It’s an informed opinion!
Wow! Thank you so much for such a kind and thoughtful comment. So glad someone out there finds my very specific special interest to be interesting. This one was a fun one ✨🪴❤️
I personally love when a plant flops. Then I can get it for myself on the cheap. It took me a while to stop chasing trends and simply buy what I love. For example, everyone dogs on pink princesses. I love them. I always have maybe 4 stems growing per pot so there’s always some pink happening. I just personally love them.
Seriously! Sorry for ragging on PPPs though lol
I also love PPPs and now that everyone seems to hate them it’s so easy to find them for cheap! I have 3 now 😅
I do think that some of the new batches hitting big box stores now are better quality than some of the ones that we were seeing for a while there. I saw some at Home Depot the other day that looked pretty good. I’d probably be open to trying them again once I have more space.
I agree with you about the variegation trend. Imo it appears that people want variegation because it's rare, not because it looks good. The first time I saw a alocasia black velvet varigated, I was in shock about how deformed and sickly it looked compared to the original.
With all the TC going on these days it’s not even that rare anymore
That picture of the "variegated" anthurium is actually hilarious. That thing is sickly.
Thanks, I searched really hard to find the ugliest one possible ✨🪴❤️
@@PlantFriendDownTheStreet I appreciate the effort you put in adding pictures, it adds a lot of quality to your videos!
It has to be done!
I am digging this content. Please feel free to roast in future videos 😅 also thank you for going through a whole bunch and not just, like, 5 or something. It made it so much fun to watch! 😂
Thank you! I’m so glad folks seem to be enjoying this one
Most of the first few I had never heard of before let alone seen. Very interesting content. Thank you.
Thank you!
Lmaoooo those anthurium 🤣🤣 yes, please take my money and send me a plant that has leaves that look like they're dying off😂🤔🤦🏻♀️
I looked for a while to find the ugliest one possible but there were many many others
So fetch !
I never knew the story on the “mutant” manjula. They were being sold locally (FL) last fall for 25$ for a 4” pot. That seems reasonable for a manjula variant. Love to see plants become accessible for ppl who want them. Fun video!
I think $25 is a great price! I love my manjula so I’d probably pick one up for $25.
Im confused about this plant. I heard that it never went into full production because once the plant gets to a certain point it self terminates.
@@Shearedfieldthat is fascinating and it would explain why they disappeared! Very cool info, thanks for sharing ❤
❤😂 - Totally Agree with Everything
A greenhouse near me had an Ep. Pin. Albo for $700 today on a plank. Yes it was big and pretty, but only had 1 or 2 super variegated leaves. But like, they need to get real with the price. They had the mutant manjulas today too and they wanted $180 for it😂😅
That’s complete ridiculous, I hope no one pays that
I wonder if they price these super high because they are part of the owners private collection. My Epi Pin Albo grows like crazy. No need to price so high.
I saw a 400 ugly pink princess at my local nursery?! They are selling better looking ones at big box stores.
Question: I feel like the big box stores carry mostly tissue culture and not a genuine prop from a natural mother plant. Do you feel that or am I missing something? Thanks y’all! 🌿🌿💚💚🪴🪴
Yeah it’s a pretty efficient way to propagate plants if you have the space and equipment
The tandurosa is tainted for me too. Beautiful plant, but I could never enjoy it because I knew it was poached. I had one, but sold it on after a year. I didn’t wanna look at it anymore 😂
Totally get it
How about p. lupinum and p. camposportoanum?
i’ve seen a lot of people haul these plants a while back, but you don’t see anyone with mature specimens now.
Both good ones!
I bought a campo recently for super cheap so I am glad it flopped
My campo has turned into one of my fave vining plants. I stopped caring about the maturity and it grows like a weed and is a giant that is much easier than my micans. It barely loses leaves with neglect and sunstresses into deep velvet with lime and occasionally pink highlights that keeps it interesting
@@Sarah-zk4jeooooo that sounds great… tbh I’m not so sure I remember the campo ever being that outrageously expensive… I think back even in 2020 they could be found for like $30… I could be wrong but I don’t think those were ever like $$$ or $$$$
@@PlantFriendDownTheStreet True, it wasn't as outrageous as some. I traded for a cutting, but I think my friend got it for around $50 for a small plant at the time.
Remember the “Global Green” Pothos? 😭 the variegation was so unstable they don’t even exist anymore. They all turned into regular green Pothos lol
Hahahahahhaha accurate
Omg yes it just looks like a half reverted njoy
The Jessenia was even worse
Lovely video 💚 I've just ordered 4 new anthurium seedlings 🤩 so excited! I'm telling you because nobody else gets how happy I am 😂😂
That’s awesome!! I haven’t ordered any new plants in so long so I guess I’ll have to be vicariously excited through you ✨🪴❤️
@@PlantFriendDownTheStreet Thanks 🤩🥰 one of them is zara x Michelle x pure papi! I can't wait 💚🌱
That should be really nice! Do you know which Papi? There are a lot of ‘em
@@PlantFriendDownTheStreet Oh it won't let me link it but if you google theseedqueens it's in seedlings! Let me know what do you think I really appreciate it 🤩🌱💚
I’m so happy the Micans halo is dropping in price. I love the look of the deformed leaves.
I agree that’s where it should be priced. I need to pot mine up, it’s just been in water forever
My first Brandi was a drama Queen. I got another one in a trade because I think it’s beautiful. This one is giving me zero problems. Fingers crossed she stays happy.
I’m glad you got a better one! Hopefully the newer TC batches are a little hardier
If there is a plant that burned me the most was the BRANDTIANUM. SUCH A HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT
Seriously! So much promise but so much pain!
Loved this video, I had no idea the Alocasia was poached! Definitely taking it off my wishlist🌿
TYSM! I had to take it off of my list too. Sad vibes 😔
Great list- love your plant knowledge. Yes, I bought several of these plants when they were pricey. I still love my Gabby and mutant manjulas. How about the Syn. Strawberry Ice? What a waste of money on a plant that wouldn't variegate? 🤦♀
TYSM! Syngonium strawberry ice was in my “most cancelled plants of 2023” video… I don’t really have scientific criteria for plants that are cancelled vs plants that flopped and it’s mostly vibes-based so I agree that one kind of walks the line between cancelled and flopped. I think for a while it was pretty sought after and I felt like the price came down with the market but idk. Good call out ✨🪴❤️
Love the brandi. It’s is a drama queen. But those leaves when it works. ❤
I low key wish I could grow one of the ones that gets big and long… it’s like a sparkly Melanochrysum 🤤
Yeah, I have some regular manjulas and they are the SLOWEST growing plants. Over a year old and out of 3 bought- all 4" pots- only one vine has just started... which is almost fully reverted. I would have been so mad at myself for trying those sport ones!
That’s weird! My manjulas grow about the same as my silver stripes. I keep them under the grow lights though.
I have an amydrium silver that is one of my fastest, easiest growers. In all fairness, mine is the prettiest I’ve ever seen lol. Have it growing up a cork board and it gives leaf after leaf with no runners. They need lots of light and do really well on cork! It’s growing outside right now in Eastern coastline heat.
when I saw the amydrium at first, I didn't know why they weren't more popular. they are sooo cool! I just got my first one in the mail today so wish me luck :S
Oh dang! I really hope it does well for you! I’d def try to up the humidity and ph balance your water and maybe look into what kind of nutrients they like.
Summer Glory!
Dang, that was fast!
I agree on the variegated anthuriums. There are a few I've seen on like Onlyplants vids that look amazing, but people get so excited about variegation, even if it's ugly or pointless. It's a bit like how people flip their lids over a one-inch spot of sport variegation on a monstera. Like, it's not that thrilling.
Seriously! Or the “is this variegation” posts in plant groups. Like no, it’s diseased, or damaged or overwatered, but even if it was, why would you even want it?
Finally someone agrees with me that variegated anthuriums look UGLY. Diseased-looking, yellowing variegation is in no way more beautiful than the dark green, velvety sheen of anthuriums.
I really like your show. You are so informative. I disagree with your opinion on the Jackyln. All plants are poached. At some point, someone took them from the wild and grew them in their homes and/or shops. I think what you meant was that the person should have reported what they found as a new species and then applied for the proper paperwork to take it/name it. Unfortunately, we d9nt really know where any of our plant babies come from except the ones grown in labs or tissue cultures. Sad truth.
Thank you! But what happened to the Jacklyn isn’t my opinion, it’s what happened and your assertion that all plants are “poached” isn’t quite correct. Poaching is when someone removes plants illegally from a location where they are not authorized to remove them. All plants are collected from the wild at some point, but depending on the laws where the plants grow in the wild, there are many different ways to legally collect a plant from the wild that is not poaching. Examples would be someone collecting plants from their own private land with proper permits, collection for scientific research, or removing invasive species from public land, which is oftentimes allowed and even encouraged. The Jacklyn was poached by someone who removed them from the wild without proper authorization and then propagated and grew them for commercial sale illegally. It wasn’t a new species, it was already named “tandurusa”.
And I agree with you, it is sad!
@PlantFriendDownTheStreet I didn't mean to come off b****y. I'm with you. I think ILLEGALLY removing anything from the wild, plant, or animal is disgusting. I have a Jacklyn, and maybe that's why I was so overly emotional about it. I enjoyed having it until your vid. Now I look at it side-eyed 🤣. If it was, in fact, poached, SHAME ON THE PERSON THAT DID THAT! Poor plant. I love your channel, and you've given me some great advice.
No worries! At this point, I don’t think there’s any need to feel guilty anymore. They’ve entered circulation in big box stores and plant shops so they’re not going anywhere. It’s highly possible that the plants in mainstream circulation came from another source so if you’ve got one and you like it and you’re taking care of it, I don’t see the harm. I think the original offender got shut out pretty fast. 🪴✨❤️
Don't forget terrarium begonias. (esp. Darth vaderiana😑😬)
I still stan open air tolerant begonias though💚
Hahahhaha omg the begonia craze did kind of flop as a whole, didn’t it?
The epi marble was on my list, until I figured out it’s really an albo raphi I want. 😂 Until it fenestrates, marble queen for the win!
Didn’t realize Jacklyn was poached. One of my favorites. Always wondered why the price crashed. Thought it was because, well, Alocasia.
Enjoy these type of videos. And I like you much better than that other influencer, even without the accent. 😉
TYSM! I need to look up albo raphi… I have the green version and I really like it. Albo version would probably ruin it for me though, lol!
Epi pinnatum marble has fenestration from/ the beginning which is why they're so popular, but the mature fenestration is 🤌
yea that amydrium silver omg I tossed mine lol it came damaged too 😂 I think I want to try a regular green one if I see one cheap
That’s awful! I hope you find one but I haven’t seen them for sale in years
I just watched nick pileggi fan girl over an epi pinnatum marble, and people are definitely still excited about them. I got mine accidentally so it's been interesting to research. I think people expect it to be like a marble pothos or snow queen and just grow like crazy.
Yeah but I bet Nick didn’t pay $1200 for one like sellers were asking when they first came out! I do think they are are cool and pretty, especially for the prices nowadays. Back when they first came out, people were hoping that they would grow more like a monstera so they could grow out to look like Albo monsteras. That’s great that you are enjoying yours!
That's so fetch karen. 😂
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A shop near me has a 6" mutant manjula for $250. Has been on the website for probably 6 weeks!
That is disgraceful… someone else commented that the reason those plants disappeared was because they would inevitably self terminate and if that’s the case, selling one for that much is even worse 🤮 honestly
@@PlantFriendDownTheStreet whoa!! I need to look into this self termination thing. I wouldn't be surprised at all!
what is that gorgeous massive heart shaped plant with white veins behind you on the left?
The philodendron glorious?
When you talk about “big plant influencers” like who would you be referring to? I really don’t know but would like to learn more about the plant world on YT. Thanks!
Hi! So this isn’t an exhaustive list but the bigger channels that Ive watched include like Planterina, Harli G, WildFern, Becca de la Plants, Nick Pileggi, and Kaylee Ellen to name a few. I think any channel with more than idk 50k subs is kind of big. Planterina had almost 1M last time I checked. Hope that helps!
@@PlantFriendDownTheStreet Oh yes, I have seen Planterina but not any of the others. Thanks a lot, it is very helpful. I just came across your channel today and really like it. 👍
Thank you so much! I’m really glad you’re enjoying it ✨❤️🪴
ah I love my epi. pin. marble, but I got it as a tiny rooted cutting for $20. It's been giving me probably a leaf every week or 2 and just got its first fenestration :) but honestly that just confirms that no one should pay that much for it. it grows way too quickly to justify paying hundreds of dollars
edit to add, I live about 5 minutes away from Gabriella Plants in FL and I had no idea about the drama with philo gabby. i'm so out of the loop lmao
$20 is a great price for it. I think if I saw a full basket of it at a plant shop, I’d probably pick it up
👍👍 Never knew that about the Jacquelyn - I just got one & I just love it 😬
19:19 i have a philodendron Rio from Botanicaz i dont know were that plant came from
I love those, I think they’re so pretty
👍🏼
What’s mosaic disease?
It’s a virus that kind of looks like mottled variegation that kills aroids
Epipremnum pinnatum are hard to mature? What are you even talking they are know to size up fenestrate quick. Also I think Epipremnum marble king have a niche *because* it looks like a more interesting version of marble queen.
That’s not the experience of anyone I’ve spoken to but that’s great if you’ve been successful
Epipremnum Pinnatum Marble is a favorite of mine, but I'm glad that it flopped! I don't usually go for variegated plants but I wanted at least one in my collection that would look like a statement piece. But I'm not willing to pay the exorbitant prices of the albo in my country, and I'm honestly over them because they never crashed down in price. That's why I love the epipremnum marble, and I even prefer the shape over the monstera. I also don't have that much luck with growing monstera, but I have grown pinnatum varieties in the past so I have more experience with them
That’s awesome! I wish mine had sized up and done better. Maybe I’ll dig some out of my growtent and fiddle with it?