Why Did Mace Prevent Anakin From Confronting Darth Sidious?

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    The Non-Canon Expert explains why Jedi Master Mace Windu prevented Anakin Skywalker from joining him in confronting Palpatine, who was the Dark Lord of the Sith Darth Sidious, based upon information received by Mace both before and after the Battle of Coruscant.

Komentáře • 302

  • @johnsobery
    @johnsobery Před 7 lety +190

    The more you learn about the last day of the Jedi, the weaker they appear.

    • @1plus0neistwo47
      @1plus0neistwo47 Před 7 lety +10

      Guardian I hope so. Hopefully in Episode 9 of after that Luke will create a new Jedi-Order, and go to the old Jedi Temple on Coruscant, and rebuild it.

    • @the-dark-side.
      @the-dark-side. Před 7 lety +40

      If they had studied, understood and used the dark-side, they wouldn've been so ill prepared to deal with the sith.
      The Jedi's real problem was fear. They were scared of the dark-side of the force.
      To respect something's power is normal, natural, rational and the only sure way that it won't rip you to pieces. But to fear it, is irrational.
      For example, if you've never swam you SHOULD respect the oceans power because it can kill you and you have no idea how to swim back to shore if things get out of control. But if you FEAR the ocean, you'll never know how fun it is to swim, you'll never be able to use it as a source of food, and you'll be afraid to learn how to ride it's waves. The inverse is also true of someone who is too over confident in the ocean. They both lack the proper respect of something that is more powerful than they can possibly imagine.
      The Jedii didn't respect the power of the dark-side. They were afraid. The sith did not fear the light side of the force, which is why the Jedi fell.

    • @Excalibur2112
      @Excalibur2112 Před 7 lety +13

      Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. This is one of the many reasons why Palpatine was so successful in creating war and ultimately overthrowing the Jedi... Plus he had an understanding of both sides of The Force as he said; "My master taught me all there is to know about The Force, including the nature of the Dark Side."

    • @SparkyNarwhal
      @SparkyNarwhal Před 7 lety +6

      Shadow Prince "wouldn've" that is a new level of contraction that I can't help but admire. I shall never say "would not have" ever again!

    • @the-dark-side.
      @the-dark-side. Před 7 lety +13

      I can't take credit.Dean Prater The dark side is a path to many grammatical styles that some would consider to be...unnatural.

  • @starwarsreadingclub
    @starwarsreadingclub  Před 7 lety +45

    Hey guys, I hope you all had a great weekend! Thank you very much to everyone who joined the Twitch stream yesterday. I had a lot of fun doing it! If you would like to join in on the next stream, it will be this Wednesday, January 11th @ 4:30PM EST (link is in the description) and I am planning on playing some Battlefront again. I am looking forward to it. Thank you again and I hope you enjoy the video!

    • @julianreyes2981
      @julianreyes2981 Před 7 lety +1

      Star Wars Reading Club I love all of your videos. dude you are an amazing youtuber and I love hearing you. You always bring my day up.

    • @star_wars_geek2547
      @star_wars_geek2547 Před 7 lety +1

      Star Wars Reading Club I have an idea for a video, though it's not the best: Who put the armor plates on C3-PO? When Anakin left him on Tatooine in The Phantom Menace, he had no armor plates, but when he went to find his mother in Attack of the Clones, he had the gray armor plates... So I would love to know, who really put the armor plates on 3PO?

    • @carbon-dim7993
      @carbon-dim7993 Před 7 lety

      This only makes Mace's death worse!In fact it doesnt make any sense..
      If Mace was so perceptive about the situation he should have seen Anakin's betrayal from a mile away!

    • @ptre21
      @ptre21 Před 7 lety +1

      I think Mace personally just didn't like Anakin as well

    • @cristobalrojassalinas8504
      @cristobalrojassalinas8504 Před 7 lety

      Star Wars Reading Club I was abot to ask you for this vid like 2 or 3 days ago, but forgot. Well done xD

  • @eugenetheslave
    @eugenetheslave Před 7 lety +66

    It was Mace's arrogance and the decision not to have Anakin accompany the 4 of them was the final blow to Young Skywalker.
    The fact that Anakin accumulated so much data was through private audiences with Palpatine/Sidious, no-one likes being brushed aside like that!!

  • @sleepyboytx
    @sleepyboytx Před 7 lety +16

    If only Mace would have broadcasted to the galaxy the identity of Sith Lord then everyone would have been more hesitant to let The Emperor take over. Not that they could stop cause they couldn't. But also remember the emperor also predicted years of civil war if the Jedi weren't destroyed, which is what happened.

  • @Kubinda12345
    @Kubinda12345 Před 7 lety +124

    Distrust bred only distrust. Mace's initial distrust towards Anakin led to Anakin distrusting him. It's funny because if Mace was willing to trust Anakin it's highly possible that Anakin would've helped Mace to subjugate Palpatine.

    • @wjb-wt6sc
      @wjb-wt6sc Před 7 lety +31

      Kubinda12345 Not really, what you're forgetting is that at that point Anakin's only concern was saving his wife. Mace saw conflict in Anakin and chose to bench him, you don't send a sympathiser to fight your enemy. Anyway, whether or not Mace and Anakin trusted each is actually irrelevant in the end, and that is because only Palpatine was offering to Save Padme. Had Mace taken Anakin to face Palpatine, what are the chances that he would have sided with Jedi over the possibility of saving Padme? Keep in mind at this point it was evident that Anakin valued her life over that of the entire Jedi Order. No amount of trust has ever prevented Anakin from putting the good of others over his fear of loss.

    • @SovereignStatesman
      @SovereignStatesman Před 7 lety +12

      Er.. Anakin was ALREADY under Palp's influence. Anakin didn't have to cut Mace's hand off, he could have just blocked his lightsaber... but apparently Jedi always have an addiction to cutting hands off.

    • @boredfangerrude
      @boredfangerrude Před 7 lety +6

      It's possible that if Mace had brought him and things started to go the same way that Mace could convince him that they could save his wife without the need of the Sith Lord which would have changed everything.

    • @SovereignStatesman
      @SovereignStatesman Před 7 lety +11

      Boredfan Gerrude Think about it: Anakin turned to the Dark Side and became Darth Vader, in a HEARTBEAT, with NO hesitation or wavering.
      Clearly, he was pretty much on the brink, and Mace Windu recognized this conflict-- and that Anakin was in NO condition to confront Sidious.
      Remember that the Jedi Council was already very concerned about Anakin's involvement with the Chancellor-- it's the only reason that they allowed him to sit on the Jedi Council, after all; and so once Anakin reported to them that Palpatine was the Sith-lord, then Mace wasn't about to place Akanin in a position where his loyalties would be compromised.

    • @boredfangerrude
      @boredfangerrude Před 7 lety +12

      The council handled the issue poorly though, they ostrasized him rather than treating him as a normal Jedi and that created bitterness and resentment in Anakin which drove him closer to the dark side.

  • @ItsTimeIDisappear09
    @ItsTimeIDisappear09 Před 7 lety +4

    All the Jedi seemed to believe that Anakin had a lot of fear in him. Even in their final battle Dooku says to him "I sense great fear in you Skywalker!" As if he knows someday he will be by his side

  • @yoavmor9002
    @yoavmor9002 Před 7 lety +56

    that leads us to what if mace did take Anakin.

    • @Blazeblitz9000
      @Blazeblitz9000 Před 7 lety +2

      Yoav Mor Anakin would still not let mace kill Palpatine. though he may be able to convince mace to arrest him rather than killing him

    • @SovereignStatesman
      @SovereignStatesman Před 7 lety +5

      Mace fell to the Dark Side himself, when he tried to kill Sidious rather than arrest him; that's exactly what Sidious wanted. Just like he did against Luke Skywalker, 25 years later.

    • @Mentallect
      @Mentallect Před 7 lety +18

      Mace understood Sidious controlled the Senate, and would be freed to do evil, so Mace showed wisdom. The very fact thousands of Jedi were slain shortly after by Sidious Order 66 proved Mace's wisdom.

    • @robertagu1866
      @robertagu1866 Před 7 lety +5

      Mentallect Yeah he really was too dangerous to let live turned out.

    • @user-zm1rq6xj9v
      @user-zm1rq6xj9v Před 7 lety +6

      Exactly. Mace Windu was making a practical decision

  • @Excalibur2112
    @Excalibur2112 Před 7 lety +16

    There should be a theory video of: What if Anakin had just listened to Windu and chilled in the Jedi council chambers and not flown to Palpatine's apartment? Would Mace Windu have won with a confirmed kill or would Palpatine have won, with no feigning weakness, nobody to cry for help?

    • @jazz8000
      @jazz8000 Před 7 lety

      I think if not Anakin then Vincent would appear but would help Mace. If not him then Mace would use Force Snakes on Palpatine.

    • @deathsdoor07
      @deathsdoor07 Před 7 lety +4

      Who is Vincent?

    • @darthtroller
      @darthtroller Před 7 lety

      deathsdoor07 Windu with auto spell correction

    • @englishlady9797
      @englishlady9797 Před 3 lety

      Palpatine literally engineered the whole thing. Windu and the council had their suspicions, but they did not suspect the Sith Lord was Palpatine. They would not have guessed had he not revealed it to Anakin, and he timed the revelation perfectly when Anakin was at breaking point in his fear for Padme and his conflicted loyalties.
      He knew Anakin would turn him in (even encouraged him to), and probably excepted an attempted arrest. He was prepared all the time. He fully intended to use the whole thing to his advantage. The Jedi were already at their lowest ebb in terms of public opinion. An attempted arrest would not have looked good, and in the event an aggressive response would have been spun as an assassination attempt. Which it was.

    • @blackout6403
      @blackout6403 Před 2 lety

      Get Star Wars Thorey on it

  • @burningtemplar
    @burningtemplar Před 5 lety +7

    Plot hole... why left anakin alone? Some of masters with him to talk be beter option

  • @patsboy1012
    @patsboy1012 Před 7 lety +20

    Wait wouldn't you want someone who defeated Count Dooku who was known as a legendary duelist to fight Sidious.

    • @patsboy1012
      @patsboy1012 Před 7 lety +17

      Also Windu disliked Anakin

    • @SSweaty
      @SSweaty Před 7 lety +5

      Jack Boy anakin killed him when he unarmed which is not the Jedi way

    • @joupena
      @joupena Před 7 lety +2

      +TheD3vineExclabir: Yeah, after Anakin had previously killed the surrendered and unarmed Dooku. xDD

    • @tdring10681
      @tdring10681 Před 6 lety +6

      Anakin killed a shit ton of people throughout the clone wars

    • @ikonta169
      @ikonta169 Před 4 lety

      Would it have mattered, most of them just stood there and let themselves get stabbed

  • @eugenederry343
    @eugenederry343 Před 7 lety +5

    Mace Windu preparing to assassinate the Chancellor, before Anakin slices off Mace Windu's right hand and Palpatine use force lightning to murder him; he fell off the window inside the Chancellor's office.
    Windu: He's too dangerous to be kept alive.
    Anakin: It is not the Jedi way, he must live.
    Chancellor Palpatine told Anakin to execute Count Dooku in cold blood inside the Invisible Hand above Coruscant.
    Palpatine: He's too dangerous to be kept alive.
    Anakin: Yes, he was an unarmed prisoner. It is not like that and it is not the Jedi way.
    Anakin is such a hypocrite because told Mace to not kill Palpatine unarmed, but he murdered Count Dooku unarmed. Anakin, you are a hypocrite and you tell Mace that is not the Jedi way to kill unarmed prisoners, but you killed Count Dooku defenseless.

    • @MrBiggrim
      @MrBiggrim Před 7 lety +2

      Anakin. "I need him"
      Our dear little Annie was at that moment in a situation of desperation. He desired to save Padme but had not the power to do so whereas Palps had dropped that offer into Annies lap. Annie was in a desperate situation.
      Would you not do, or say, what ever it takes to save the one you love? Or is Strict Moral Principle more important to you?

    • @AjaySharma-mc7wz
      @AjaySharma-mc7wz Před 6 lety

      Dooku had cut off Anakin’s hand. Palapatine was his friend. That’s the difference

  • @DoktaVODKA
    @DoktaVODKA Před 6 lety +2

    I really liked the Video game release of Revenge of the Sith. It had so many extra voice lines, giving so much context. Like Mace and Anakin's argument while battling.

  • @rayruiz5871
    @rayruiz5871 Před 6 lety +4

    Mace Windows decision to not bring Anakin was the Tipping Point that showed he and others did not trust Anakin and this pushed him a lot more closer to Palpatine's side.

  • @eugenederry343
    @eugenederry343 Před 7 lety +2

    Good, Mace Windu brought three Jed Masters named Saesee Tiin, Agen Kolar, and Kit Fisto preparing to arrest Chancellor Palpatine, before Anakin arrives to rescue him from Mace. Anakin is confused whether or not if he should save Palpatine or have Mace Windu to kill him. Mace speaks to Yoda on the holograph, after Obi Wan killed Grievous on Utapau. Yoda told Mace that the Chosen One, must be with him to arrest Chancellor Palpatine, but Mace ignores Yoda's advice.

  • @the-dark-side.
    @the-dark-side. Před 7 lety +30

    i'd like to believe that that dark-side of the force also clouded windu's judgement.
    It seems that Lucas was trying to show this when Windu says "he's too dangerous to be left alive" which were the exact words Palpatine used when he asked him to execute Dooku. They could have taken a blood sample of the emperor and proved that he was loaded with midicholorians and used this evidence to give further credibility to the idea that he was a sith lord. As all force sensitives had to be registered and are forced to be given tests at birth,.
    I'm kind of shocked someone as powerful as Papa Palpatine, slipped through the cracks. But according to the lore, he did and the Jedi could have used that evidence. It seems that Windu's rush to execute him in front of Anikin makes more sense that it pushed him to the dark side as Jedi and Sith were ready to murder people without any due process, than what is the difference?

    • @Excalibur2112
      @Excalibur2112 Před 7 lety +1

      +Shadow Prince Well, originally Windu only wanted to arrest Palpatine. It wasn't until Palpy unleashed his force lightning, that caused the tide to turn really... "I'm kind of shocked someone as powerful as Papa Palpatine, slipped through the cracks. But according to the lore, he did and the Jedi could have used that evidence." ---> LOL, Papa Palpatine was able to slip through the cracks, because of his actual immense power with the dark side. He was able to conceal himself perfectly from their Jedi senses...By the time they just started realizing this "The dark side of the Force surrounds the Chancellor," it was all but too late by then.

    • @fduranthesee
      @fduranthesee Před 7 lety

      fuck off,

    • @MasterKnightDH
      @MasterKnightDH Před 7 lety +3

      Windu's overconfidence was his weakness in that case and he can't tell anybody that their faith in their friends was theirs. He was trying to arrest _a Sith Lord_ in the case he originally intended to arrest Palpetine, since he was there on Anakin's information. He should have seen the force lightning coming from the start.

    • @the-dark-side.
      @the-dark-side. Před 7 lety +8

      excalibur2112
      Maybe, you're right.
      But "he's too dangerous to be left alive" was deliberately chosen to emphasize how the Jedi and Sith were basically religious extremists. It made it about choosing a side and which religious nuts he wanted to follow. Do you follow the guy who fills your head with promises of power and and saving the people you love? Or the people who tell you that you can't love people and have been keeping you away from what you believe is your rightful place? The people who tried to use your relationship to spy on your friend and father figure? Who tried to overthrow and murder him without a trial?Because he followed a different religion?
      Was he wrong about them being bad people? They kept his children away from him and then told his son lies to weaponize him to kill his own father.

    • @the-dark-side.
      @the-dark-side. Před 7 lety +4

      *****
      I agree. If he had walked in there with Anikin Palpatine probably wouldn't be as quick to attack because of how he would perceive it. He wanted Anikin to see it as self defense rather than a hostile action on his part.

  • @simoontube
    @simoontube Před 7 lety +1

    I find that I look forward to your vids more than anyone else's these days. Love the tone, structure, insight and of course the ifnotforme endings; they always make me chuckle. Lovely work.

  • @shaggybrown420
    @shaggybrown420 Před 6 lety +10

    I would like to see: What if Obi-Wan was there with/instead of Mace when confronting Palpatine, would Anakin still make the same choice?

  • @rudydragoo8422
    @rudydragoo8422 Před 6 lety +2

    #Suggestion: If Anakin joined Mace and the other Jedi in confronting Chancellor Palpatine, Anakin would not have saved Palpatine because he saw his evil rage against the Jedi, but he also still wanted to arrest Palpatine. Even though a couple Jedi were killed here, Anakin, Tsasi Tin and Mace would be able to capture Palpatine and with their combined force strength they would sever Palpatine from his connection to the force. Palpatine would go to prison and Anakin would be elevated to the level of Master Jedi. He and Padme' would raise their children named Luke and Leia Skywalker. Then Luke Skywalker would be tempted to the darkside by the force ghost of Darth Plageuis because of his own restless nature and urge for quick power in the force. Luke Skywalker would become Darth Vader. He would be the one to turn against the Jedi and kill the Jedi council as he goes on a killing rampage. Luke would hunt down the other Jedi and kill them as well as declare himself as Emperor Vader after discovering order 66 in an old database. The republic Clone Troopers which were continued to serve the republic to the present day.

    • @englishlady9797
      @englishlady9797 Před 3 lety

      Yeah, I think Palps wold just have blasted him with some lightening. and honestly, if I was stuck in a room with a mad space wizard who could zap someone and throw them out of the window, I'd probably be terrified enough to swear to do whatever they wanted too.

  • @eugenelau3927
    @eugenelau3927 Před 4 lety +4

    This was the biggest mistake Mace Windu made, not allowing Anakin to be the 5th Jedi.

  • @matthewmann8969
    @matthewmann8969 Před 6 lety +5

    What if Yoda stayed in the temple instead of Mace when Anakin spilled the beans?

  • @SparkyNarwhal
    @SparkyNarwhal Před 7 lety +11

    The real question here is, "Does Chancellor Palpatine look like a bitch?"

    • @StrikerFX47
      @StrikerFX47 Před 7 lety +2

      Dean Prater Nice pulp fiction reference

    • @gentlebabarian
      @gentlebabarian Před 7 lety +1

      Dean Prater what?

    • @SparkyNarwhal
      @SparkyNarwhal Před 7 lety +1

      "Basic! Wampa Fodder, DO YOU SPEAK IT?!?"

    • @Excalibur2112
      @Excalibur2112 Před 7 lety +1

      He looks more like a dehydrated old nutsack... Queue up the Darth Syphilis joke from Robot Chicken!

    • @SparkyNarwhal
      @SparkyNarwhal Před 7 lety

      Ha!

  • @Geekdom101
    @Geekdom101 Před 7 lety +25

    Quality

    • @brandonhawkins2367
      @brandonhawkins2367 Před 5 lety +2

      The power to destroy is a planet is significant to the power of the force

    • @azureangel8217
      @azureangel8217 Před 4 lety

      @@brandonhawkins2367 *insignificant

  • @JimMcCray
    @JimMcCray Před 7 lety +38

    Bro, you repeated yourself something like four times in a row.

    • @bentoth9555
      @bentoth9555 Před 7 lety +11

      I've noticed it happens quite often in his videos. They're still quite good, and very informative. They're just a bit repetitive at times. And some sections of a video will be redundant, too.

    • @JimMcCray
      @JimMcCray Před 7 lety +3

      I'm sure you're right about him doing that a lot, but I have never heard it like this before - this time was really something special. This is why it's good to have a friend, or twin brother, as the case may be, review your material before uploading.
      High Five to you.

  • @kessel251
    @kessel251 Před 5 lety +1

    He didn't want to get his arm cut off and get thrown out a window.

  • @stevengrantofthegiftshop1549

    Mace really should have told Anakin all this.

  • @zehc5262
    @zehc5262 Před 7 lety +2

    "I can feel the darkside intertwined between you two, it's not a good idea for you to come"God dammit Mace that was all you needed to say to him!

    • @Demowan
      @Demowan Před 4 lety

      Mace should've left the three masters with Anakin, to keep watch. And go confront Sidious on his own.

  • @justinwallace269
    @justinwallace269 Před 5 lety

    A fascinating and foreboding description: I so wish the movies had indicated even a fraction of this detail. Great work!

  • @iliketrains263
    @iliketrains263 Před 7 lety +4

    what I wanna know is how did anakin get to chancellors office so quickly? mace left hours ago and anakin is seen pacing the jedi consol room waiting and than grows impatient waiting for news. he gets there 45 seconds after mace does.

    • @DrewJarlson
      @DrewJarlson Před 4 lety

      He tried spinning that’s a good trick

  • @Goran_Varbanov
    @Goran_Varbanov Před 7 lety +10

    The jedi themselves are the main reason for Anakin's fall to the dark side! They refused him the rank of jedi master, expeled his padawan Ashoka Tano from the jedi order, and forced him to spy on Palpatine! This was the real point of view of Anakin Skywalker, that the jedi are evil! Maybe, just maybe if Mace Windu showed more trust to Anakin, the result could be a different one!

  • @reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134

    Mace Windu deserved every amount of punishment he got During that scene from Anakin & Darth Sidious 👏🏾
    The Jedi council should have treated Anakin as more of an equal , respected his accomplishments, embraced him more & trusted him for who he is & the very fact they didn’t do that literally helped cause the fall of their jedi order during the Clone wars 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

  • @drdoomxtoxic8806
    @drdoomxtoxic8806 Před 7 lety +1

    great video im loving this channel

  • @englishlady9797
    @englishlady9797 Před 3 lety +1

    Yeah to be fair, he sensed that fear and confusion all along. I still think it was foolish to send a person who was so close to Palpatine to spy on him. I mean in the real world, a cop would not be allowed to investigate someone they were were personally involved with, i.e a friend or relative, because its known to cloud judgement and make them less objective.
    They should have kept them apart really, and sent Anakin off on some mission when they arrested Palps.

  • @johnpage1001
    @johnpage1001 Před 7 lety

    One of the best yet. bravo

  • @amisfitpuivk
    @amisfitpuivk Před 6 lety +1

    Look at Master Fisto, what do you see? I see PRIDE! I see POWAH! I see a badass mada who don't take no crap from nobody!

  • @jaredbanister6880
    @jaredbanister6880 Před rokem

    Mace was by far the most logical Jedi in the order and closest to catching onto Darth Sidious. For a time even Sidious viewed Mace as his greatest threat until Mace told him Yoda was their greatest fighter and not just a teacher. Yoda was the one who thought that he alone or just Mace with Kolar would be certainly enough to beat Sidious. Mace was wise though and brought Fisto and Tiin as extra insurance. Anakin as he concluded was a threat and emotionally attached to Sidious who was essentially like the father in his life. Mace's only mistake was not having Anakin join Cin Drallig or Shaak Ti at the temple to make sure he didn't come to help Palpatine. Mace sensed the darkside around Anakin and had heard of how Anakin had tortured Poggle the Lesser. He also knew that Ahsoka had threatened to do the same to Nute Gunray which told him exactly what kind of apprentice Anakin was creating. This was his only other mistake as he believed Ahsoka also was walking the border to darkness as her Anakin since she was also so reckless and had done controversial things.

  • @AlexTraven
    @AlexTraven Před 7 lety +22

    why did Grievous go from a badass Clone wars original tv show, to a cowardly bitch episode 3 not sure if you already did this topic but I'm curious

    • @johnc6158
      @johnc6158 Před 7 lety +2

      Guardian even tho he basically created grievous.

    • @dictatorpolarbear269
      @dictatorpolarbear269 Před 7 lety +4

      Dylan DStruction there's many scenes where grievous is a coward and runs away midway through battle in the clone wars.

    • @mazeradeville2911
      @mazeradeville2911 Před 7 lety +7

      Guardian He was introduced in the Clone Wars animated series that aired prior to the release of Episode 3.
      As per why he went from badass to cowardly bitch, even throughout the original Clone Wars series, he rarely confronted his enemies directly and instead relied on psychological warfare and unorthodox surprise attacks to get the better of his opponents. Dooku even coaxes him during his training to "use the unorthodox". Even though he was skilled enough to hold his own against a skilled Jedi, his kills often came as a result of catching his opponents off guard and making them panic and choke under pressure. If the Jedi was not afraid of him, he was at the disadvantage due to not being force sensitive, even moreso after Mace crippled him at the end of the Clone Wars series.

    • @SovereignStatesman
      @SovereignStatesman Před 7 lety +2

      Why can a hunter kill a rabbit every day, but Elmer Fudd can't kill Bugs Bunny?
      Because YOU CAN DO ANYTHING IN A CARTOON!

    • @Slender_Man_186
      @Slender_Man_186 Před 7 lety

      Obi wan was a form 3 god, and he was able to simply block all of Grevious' attacks. Notice how Grevious tried to cut through his defenses, instead of around them.

  • @detroitmiracle1797
    @detroitmiracle1797 Před 2 lety

    Mace windu must have figured that sidious's power level was around dooku's, because windu only took 3 jedis with him to arrest palpatine. Mace windu underestimated darth sidious's powers with was very risky.

  • @snakegriffin4928
    @snakegriffin4928 Před 4 lety

    I like how he’s basically saying the same sentence in different ways for 8minutes

  • @mikereds2997
    @mikereds2997 Před 6 lety +1

    So right at Anakin weakest moment mace told him he doesn't trust him then turns around and tries to kill Palpatine who is one of the few individuals Anakin views as a friend it was the straw that broke the camel's back the worst part is mace completely ignores the Jedi way not only by attempting to kill Palpatine but by ignoring the will of the force at his own peril because he was aware everything rested on Anakins decisions yet tryed to exclude him from the hole ordeal his arrogance was his weakness

    • @arronfrazier7873
      @arronfrazier7873 Před 3 lety

      A friend who deceived and lied to you since he met you. A friend who tried to kill your wife multiple times. A friend who was playing both sides of the war who gave information to Dooku to aid in the separatist.

  • @MBoeltje41
    @MBoeltje41 Před 7 lety +2

    you know i seriously wonder what would have happened if ahsoka did redeem vader on Malachor. what would she do and how. but most importandly what would the newly returned anakin do?

  • @misternally5206
    @misternally5206 Před 7 lety +1

    Could anyone tell me if there's a video on YT which deals with how would Yoda and the Jedi Council React if Mace killed Palatine unarmed? And if not could someone do that kind of video if possible of course? Thanks.

  • @lavuntecolquitt
    @lavuntecolquitt Před 5 lety

    I always knew Mace had some kind of force intuition. He just was too on point with his decisions that later came to play

  • @eugenederry343
    @eugenederry343 Před 7 lety

    Kristopher, Yoda wasn't in Coruscant when Mace and three other Jedi Masters name Agen, Saesee, and Kit are about to arrest Palpatine. Yoda was on Kashyyyk helping Commander Gree and his clone army to defeat the Separatist droid army, so they can protect the Wookies in their homeplanet. Anakin was stuck in the Jedi Council Chambers, when Mace, Agen, Saesee, and Kit are about to arrest Palpatine for his deception by starting the Clone Wars.

  • @ginantsfan5
    @ginantsfan5 Před 7 lety

    Most awesome vid!!!!!!! "Very dangerous putting them together I don't think the boy can handle it I don't trust him!!!!!" Mace knew what he was talking about when he said that about Anakin and Palpatine!!!!!! 😀👍🎬🎟📼

  • @eugenederry343
    @eugenederry343 Před 7 lety

    Dooku said to Anakin at the beginning of Revenge of The Sith that he senses great fear in him. How did Anakin reach the Chancellor's office, since he was at the Jedi Council Chambers? Anakin arrived 45 seconds earlier than Mace did. Mace's own mind saying that why should we trust Palpatine, such we gave him unlimited power just to stay in office much more longer. Anakin told Obi Wan that the Senate demanded that Chancellor Palpatine should stay in office much longer, but Obi Wan told Anakin to use your feelings and something is out of place.

  • @ericb8241
    @ericb8241 Před 2 lety

    He literally said lol. A padawan could sense how unstable anakin was about taking in sidious. Mace’s personal feelings didn’t have much to do with it this time.

  • @republiccommunity
    @republiccommunity Před 7 lety +9

    In this video exposÉ

  • @Bill-xx2yh
    @Bill-xx2yh Před 5 lety

    Should of slowed down, taken a deep breath and reflected...and had a cookie and some nice hot tea,
    and talked spring flowers.. that’s what-I’m-a-thinking should of gone down.

  • @Demigod_3scrub
    @Demigod_3scrub Před 4 lety

    Anakin tried to do right by the council.. He really did..till the better end.. It wasn't meant to be..

  • @Bull_Moose_Lodge
    @Bull_Moose_Lodge Před 7 lety

    Very good video man

  • @ggfaceslaps
    @ggfaceslaps Před 7 lety

    hey can you think about doing an episode on the red marked clone trooper commander that was in the 2003 clone wars stuff? is that even the same guy in different episodes? he was some kind of next level bad ass for sure

  • @Mentallect
    @Mentallect Před 7 lety

    What if Mace Windu killed Anakin upon learning Anakin was the ShatterPoint on which the Republic hung?

    • @Excalibur2112
      @Excalibur2112 Před 7 lety

      I don't think he would, unless he had probable cause and evidence of Anakin committing heinous crimes against the Jedi (we don't see it fully at least until after Windu was pushed out the Windu). Besides, Anakin was still heavily debated topic over whether he was the chosen one or not. Up to this point, Yoda, Mace and Obi-1 were actually undecided and wanted to ride the theory out.

  • @bruhman951
    @bruhman951 Před 4 lety

    Can someone explain to me if anakin didn't kill padme the what would she of died from or been in danger from ? Vader ended up killing her after he tried to do to stop it but yet he couldn't stop himself. I understand him thinking he needed sidious but what was the immediate threat to padme

  • @LUCKO2022
    @LUCKO2022 Před 7 lety +3

    Look we all know why. Mace was threatened by Anakin because Anakin was far more powerful than Mace. Which is why Anakin and Made should have had a duel in Episode 3 where Mace brutally kicks Mace's ass.
    Oh well.

    • @N3xtStopHell
      @N3xtStopHell Před 7 lety +1

      Pixar The Great Mace brutally kicks Mace's ass? But I understand, Anakin V Mace would have been amazing.

    • @LUCKO2022
      @LUCKO2022 Před 7 lety +1

      Illuminati Confirmed
      I meant Anakin kicks Mace's ass.
      That would have been the best way to show how much power Vader got when he turned.

    • @TheLatiosnlatias02
      @TheLatiosnlatias02 Před 4 lety

      Darth Grumpy
      I wonder if you've seen Ep 3 video game where Vader was fighting Mace. What was missing in the game was that there's no Yoda vs Sidious when Vader was fighting Kenobi.

  • @leandrocaruso6942
    @leandrocaruso6942 Před 7 lety

    Good video
    I haven't found a video about Vianna D'Pow, the bounty hunter.
    Could you make one?

  • @Alex-lt9hl
    @Alex-lt9hl Před 7 lety

    My question,why did Mace take so long just to take a strike at Sidius (even though he didn't kill him) he could just shanked the bastard and then go,but why did he have to swing it? Anakin cut of his hand and Sidius just electrocuted him out the window,that scene alone was stupid.

  • @docduck5990
    @docduck5990 Před 7 lety

    Would love it if you underlined which stories you explain are canon and which are legend

  • @eugenelau3927
    @eugenelau3927 Před 3 lety

    That was a deadly mistake on Mace Windu's part, Anakin could have turned the battle to the Jedi's favor. Big Mistake!!!!

  • @TheJotaroKujo
    @TheJotaroKujo Před 7 lety

    You know Anakin probably wouldn't have turned against the Jedi if Windu wasn't such a fucking asshole to him. It was always Windu the one that questioned Anakin and treated him like crap.
    Ever since I first saw the movie as a kid, I always thought that the major reason Anakin disarmed Windu was because Palpatine told out loud about Padme.
    Windu would rat him out, his future as a Jedi and his family was fucked, he had no choice.

  • @meghnamathur3188
    @meghnamathur3188 Před 4 lety

    He could fight palpatine but could not fight for himself... Ironic

  • @timerift0
    @timerift0 Před 7 lety

    Hey love the videos. Do you know what Obi Wan meant by that business Cato Neimoidia?

  • @sparkslegends7482
    @sparkslegends7482 Před 7 lety +2

    Could Anakin over power Darth Sidious like he did Count Dooku

  • @grassyclimer6853
    @grassyclimer6853 Před 7 lety

    the whole scene felt to convienant wasn't very Jedi of mace to go for the throat instead the court

  • @TheFlash-yx4gw
    @TheFlash-yx4gw Před 6 lety +1

    Excellent Star Wars Club I will let you know something you should not get angry about but you should study and see if it's the truth. Star Wars and The Moors of ancient earth are one and the same.

  • @SovereignStatesman
    @SovereignStatesman Před 7 lety

    Why Did Mace Prevent Anakin From Confronting Darth Sidious?
    That is the fucking STUPIDEST QUESTION EVER!

  • @JohanMsWorld
    @JohanMsWorld Před 7 lety

    Mu question is what would have happend if Mace let Anakin join the party to arrest Sidious? Afterall we all know what happend when he didnt so what would have the outcome if he did? Johan

  • @DeepestOfNutts
    @DeepestOfNutts Před 7 lety

    on a different note , wouldnt an out of the bloom clone army raise any questions among the populace and the jedi

  • @planetsheen1020
    @planetsheen1020 Před 7 lety

    What if Mace wasn't a fucking idiot and he just killed Sidious instead of telling Anakin and then raising his hand and swiping down slowly?

  • @DreamDeziReHD
    @DreamDeziReHD Před 7 lety

    Obvious outcome either getting destroyed by the Sith Lord or him turning to the dark side

  • @killtech1_virus62
    @killtech1_virus62 Před 4 lety

    But what if he did let anakin come with he to confront Chancellor Palpatine

  • @JEMHull-gf9el
    @JEMHull-gf9el Před 7 lety

    it was to tough of a decision, I couldn't decide to like or not.

  • @vash2722
    @vash2722 Před 7 lety

    So hypothetically if Mace took Anakin with him to confront Palpatine, would that have changed Anakin's choice?

  • @funnyblog100
    @funnyblog100 Před 7 lety

    Mace would have mopped the floor with Anakin hadn't Anakin betrayed him and caught him off gaurd. Mace nearly killed Sidious. That is something not even Obi Wan could pull off. Had Mace been focused and fought Anakin head on he most certainly would have won.

  • @DoodleSnozzle
    @DoodleSnozzle Před 7 lety

    Why? To prevent the very thing that happened...

  • @TulioGreenWizard
    @TulioGreenWizard Před 7 lety

    ok, so WHY didn't shatter point enlighten mace about anakin last move preventing him from striking palpatine down? (shattering the point at his hand instead lol)?
    He even had the ~~~high ground~~~~ lol

  • @robempire
    @robempire Před 7 lety +2

    plz do a whills video and shed some knowledge for people.

  • @firedad7341
    @firedad7341 Před 5 lety

    Are you going to review the fan film from Star Wars Theory

  • @pumpkinlife103
    @pumpkinlife103 Před 5 lety

    Mace should have went after anakin then palpatine, he clearly saw he was filled with the darkside.

  • @romavictora
    @romavictora Před 7 lety

    " if not for me..."

  • @lus_9743
    @lus_9743 Před 7 lety

    Why didn't mace bring like 30 Jedi masters he brought like 4

  • @Arbiterrevan
    @Arbiterrevan Před 7 lety

    For tough decisions....

  • @hanstarkiller6980
    @hanstarkiller6980 Před 7 lety

    Cause he BADASS

  • @deathforcegaming4987
    @deathforcegaming4987 Před 7 lety

    he really likes grand admrail thrawn

  • @Neyth7772
    @Neyth7772 Před 7 lety

    perfect timing

  • @eminemscholar1890
    @eminemscholar1890 Před 7 lety

    He should have locked him up somewhere

  • @michaeleleczko1684
    @michaeleleczko1684 Před 7 lety

    individuals and situations Makes me think of Brett Keane bahahahaha

  • @joethahobo
    @joethahobo Před 7 lety +3

    He talks slow, put the video at 1.5 speed to sound better

  • @yourmum8100
    @yourmum8100 Před 7 lety +2

    We are so early 30 s yay

  • @Necrow_Productions
    @Necrow_Productions Před 7 lety

    this could have been a three min video

  • @Brenoskywalker77
    @Brenoskywalker77 Před 7 lety

    ...In this video exposé........ =D, nice job

  • @lordofpain3476
    @lordofpain3476 Před 6 lety +2

    Windu was killed by his own arrogance , his jealousy of Anakin led to his defeat.
    I am only counting the movies ,l.
    How many Sith did Windu ever face ?
    How many Sith did Windu ever defeat ?
    The actuality of it is , NONE !!!!
    As of the Revenge of the Sith , there were only 3 living Jedi that faced a Sith and survived.
    #1 . Obi Wan Kenobi .
    #2. Anakin Skywalker.
    #3. Yoda .
    And out of those three only Obi Wan and Anakin ever actually killed a Sith .
    Neither Windu or the other three Jedi ever fought a Sith let alone killed one .
    But Windu's arrogance in believing that he was capable of killing Palpatine resulted in his death along with three other Jedi .
    If Windu had put his enormous ego aside the entire story would have ended differently.

  • @sheeveme4551
    @sheeveme4551 Před 7 lety +1

    It is my birthday today

    • @ginantsfan5
      @ginantsfan5 Před 7 lety

      Bible Frinds Happy birth day!!!!!! 👍😀🎂🍧

  • @BrEnDaNiSaWsOm
    @BrEnDaNiSaWsOm Před 7 lety

    I'm just into Star Wars and I have no clue who the blue skinned red eyed guy that is shown in all of these videos is. Can someone tell me who that is?

    • @funguy873
      @funguy873 Před 7 lety +1

      Brendan Sears Thrawn, a grand admiral of the empire

  • @uboatfreak4390
    @uboatfreak4390 Před 7 lety

    From what source does this all come from?

  • @Cuban20
    @Cuban20 Před 6 lety

    Lol "for tough decision's!!!!

  • @tankbusta5335
    @tankbusta5335 Před 7 lety

    Also Mace Windu was lowkey jealous of the Chosen One prophecy

  • @Mentallect
    @Mentallect Před 7 lety +1

    Mace Windu proved wiser than nearly all other Jedi Masters because he was against Anakin being trained as a Jedi, and never taught Anakin Vapaad.

  • @bushwhakked
    @bushwhakked Před 7 lety

    Which wallet is Mace's?

  • @aurathedraak7909
    @aurathedraak7909 Před 7 lety +1

    Ello

  • @clydefrog6961
    @clydefrog6961 Před 7 lety +3

    So on Windu's mind: " I don't trust the guy we just gave all political powers to and I don't trust the guy we are training as the chosen one" ...? Lol I like your videos man and I like Star Wars but lets face it the story juste makes no sense

    • @timthebear8005
      @timthebear8005 Před 7 lety +5

      guillaume julien mace didn't like Anakin and he didn't train him so he has no reason to trust him.

    • @wjb-wt6sc
      @wjb-wt6sc Před 7 lety +9

      guillaume julien It doesn't make sense because how you're interpreting things is not how they were. First, Mace was completely justified in not trusting Palpatine the Jedi did not give him any power it was the Senate. By this point it had been well established that Senators were just a bunch of cowardly, self-serving mules driving Palpatine's political machine. Second, it was not until Palpatine showed a lust for power while simultaneously becoming more dictatorial that the Jedi began to have pause, not to mention the fact that he was well past his term limits.
      Lastly, why should Mace trust Anakin? Mace was initially against even inducting Anakin into the Order and even after accepting him in Anakin displayed a pronounced inability to maintain a Jedi sense of calm and balance. Why would you trust an emotionally unstable boy to confront the most manipulative Sith Lord in history? "Chosen One" or not to Anakin is still subject to sentient foibles and prophecy is not static, the future constantly shifts so it is entirely probable that prophecy can be forsaken. Would you have or placed your hopes in a boy who cannot be relied upon to put the Galaxy above his attachments? All on the basis of an as of yet ridiculously vague prophecy?

    • @antoniocoburn1609
      @antoniocoburn1609 Před 7 lety +1

      wjb61274123 I agree with you 100% I don't think that anikin was the chosen one, I think his was the chosen one all along