yea they just hard counter Terran super hard because terrans only melee is firebat and protoss has zealots but also storm on clouds just dominates it but if defilers didn't exist terran would just walk over zerg late game no chance with tanks and marines
God literally built Artosis and Brood War to merge together. I believe that if Artosis was not born, BroodWar would not be alive anymore. The absolutely perfect mix between the pro players pushing SC to its mechanical limits and Artosis absolute perfect commenting on top of the video is a pure blend. Without these casts, these games would be in the void. WOOT
Just found you’re channel and this is the first video of yours I’ve ever watched. I watch a couple other Starcraft channels, but I think you might be my new favourite. I love how you explain the game within the games, not just telling us what players are doing but why! Excited to watch more, just subscribed :)
Wow you're so new. He's been casting StarCraft professionally for over a decade and a half. Welcome! Hell I remember watching him and Tasteless casting in 2008 during the ol' GomTV days
wow, ive never seen a zerg sac lurkers for vessels like this before, it makes a lot of sense to try and deny that continuous value that vessels tend to get over time though I really like this take on the strategy
I have sleeping issues in a minor form of perma insomnia, I love putting my phone next to my head and have the game play out like a movie in my head with this commentary. 😂😂 4:39am rn
You need to sleep. IF necessary get rid of your phone. Sleep is literally the most important thing in life. If you dont get it, you will slowly lose everything.
1:30 it is very sad indeed, every time I hear the name Jangbi I feel a little too much nostalgic. In another universe we enjoyed a couple of years of himsitting in the #1 Kespa rankings and it is now consensus among BW lovers that during his peak he showed us the best Protoss version the world has ever seen. Long live the Almighty
Stuff like this is why I have a sour taste in my mouth towards SC2 and SSB brawl. The sequels that took the wind out of the sails of two of the best esports.
Artosis, I unfortunately let life get in the way of StarCraft. Your daily cast gives me my fix. It’s the same variety I got while playing myself and I can watch without devoting all the time it takes to stay competitive. Thank you
he came back in 2017 very shortly and got stomped in online sponsored games (he cited anxiety while streaming being a large factor), and he just didn't feel comfortable being a streamer (the entire landscape of pro play is based around streaming culture now), so he quit and works for his family now.
You can see how much better the Zerg has to be to overcome Terran imbalance, Terran needs a nerf badly and well done to the Zerg, which despite playing an inferior race have superior skills.
I hate hearing drones die 😔they make an irritating sound when the fall to firepower. If I was that Zerg player, I would be breaking my pc just of rage, cus losing 3 lurkers to that tag team would drive me crazy ❤️
Terran so OP. Can do bunker rush, then quick expand while zerg does very quick low eco 2 hatch muta. Yet Terran can still sunken bust before mutas come out
Around ~5:08 JYJ had like a dozen marines vs like 8 zerglings and walked like half way across the map and zerg didn’t make any sunken or anything. Couldn’t he just have walked all the way across the map and rally more marines and won the game right there?
He didn’t have scouting info, if effort was massing lings jyj would have lost that fight. Typically zergs can get sunken up too, but effort was cutting corners.
I always thought that hydras could beat, head on, a bio army if you have the right numbers, plague and some decent micro. FINALLY! I see it done properly.... after like 15 years of watching starcraft. The other one I'm waiting to see is that... you can actually save a ton of defilers from dying to iradiate, by ivesting in overlords drop upgrades.... you can't target a defiler if it is inside an overlord. So you will use it just like high templars and shuttles. You unload, cast your spells and upload again. But I guess I'll have to wait another 15 years for that one xd.
JyJ had a rough game this time. Seems like he didn't map out his base layout to beat mutas and was overall just sloppy this game. Effort did just normal muta harass and did massive damage. Either JyJ didn't expect a normal timed lair after a successful bunker rush, or just had a bad game. At 13:00~ minutes he literally sends scvs back to his natural when he still hadn't consolidated defenses. His valk micro was the most atrocious part of the entire game, as he literally threw them away against the muta/scourge blob without support over and over and let effort snowball his already dominant air supremacy. Definitely deserved to lose this game
The ASL where JyJ won, he didn't win because he was the superior player but rather just a poor showing of most of the other pros and luck with matches.
@@MrTheQuestionerI always find it amazing that such a seemingly unique name was used twice and in the same game! Like I understand there being multiple "Hero", but "SoulKey" ? Is "the key to (one's) soul" something in South Korea?
Do be honest looked more like Soulkey, which is the best player with that style or action who pulled the dark swarm only lings some years ago. Though effort also showed how good he is with that style last ASL... Effort apm level until 11 minutes or so than it dropped quite
Counted no less than 8 vessels just thrown away, 3 of them at the end just bad rallies across the map. Sloppy. Also, 2 overlords just outside JyJ’s base, never cleared them, he took his last Valkyrie and just flew it across the map trying to hunt Mutas and immediately lost it to scourge, kill the overlords, an easy 2 outside your base that you knew about and another one at the 9 o’clock, that’s just free value he left on the table. Sloppy sloppy sloppy.
jyj threw this game so hard lol. let his marines autoattack drones instead of focus firing so he only got like 2. should have just kept killing mutas in retrospect. played way too aggressive with his marines and didn't defend his turrets. didn't manage his air units and kept letting them die for free. billions of vessels but no repairs and no eraser on the 9 o'clock base he was sieging. obv i'm not a pro and cannot do a fraction of anything that happened in this game, but he made so many mistakes and still had a chance to win
hahah, well maybe build more. It is so funny when you play on lower level they build much more turrets. And usually they are more effective there... Because muta micro sucks... On Pro level we see them often not building enough.
I don't care what anyone says, one of these days we will get a T-player that is really good at microing Valkyries and actually repairs Vessels - and that player will just fucking dominate. Shiesses we see 1.000 1.000 mineral/gas being lost in the span of 30 seconds to just a couple of hydras.
I think that is the next step for T in TvZ. We hardly saw Firebats and Valkyries in ASL just a couple of years ago and now they are staple units. As skill levels keep increasing, like you say, the Terran that can find the APM to keep vessels and valks alive will dominate TvZ.
He is great at 1/1/1 builds and wraiths, early cheese early to mid game but late game yes compared to other ASL terrans, he is just okay or medicore late game. He is overrated(relative to ASL pros) just like Jaedong is.@@SmokerFace12
Epic cast, epic game. Gotta love Arty's passion for the craft.
keep it going Arty, your casting channel is amesome
That muta control for so long was amazing, and so much harder than it looks
Hey artosis guys here
I guess this is another example of why Artosis calls defilers the scariest unit in the game.
yea they just hard counter Terran super hard because terrans only melee is firebat
and protoss has zealots but also storm on clouds just dominates it
but if defilers didn't exist terran would just walk over zerg late game no chance with tanks and marines
God literally built Artosis and Brood War to merge together. I believe that if Artosis was not born, BroodWar would not be alive anymore.
The absolutely perfect mix between the pro players pushing SC to its mechanical limits and Artosis absolute perfect commenting on top of the video is a pure blend.
Without these casts, these games would be in the void.
WOOT
Love how in any game Artosis has a “The best in the game” attribute for each player
Just found you’re channel and this is the first video of yours I’ve ever watched. I watch a couple other Starcraft channels, but I think you might be my new favourite. I love how you explain the game within the games, not just telling us what players are doing but why! Excited to watch more, just subscribed :)
Wow you're so new. He's been casting StarCraft professionally for over a decade and a half. Welcome!
Hell I remember watching him and Tasteless casting in 2008 during the ol' GomTV days
what an exciting game. that was neck to neck up until the last minute
wow, ive never seen a zerg sac lurkers for vessels like this before, it makes a lot of sense to try and deny that continuous value that vessels tend to get over time though I really like this take on the strategy
Great stuff, very exciting game. Love your casts
Epic as usual. Casting is the cherry on top. Thanks ArtosisCast.
I have sleeping issues in a minor form of perma insomnia, I love putting my phone next to my head and have the game play out like a movie in my head with this commentary.
😂😂 4:39am rn
You need to sleep. IF necessary get rid of your phone. Sleep is literally the most important thing in life. If you dont get it, you will slowly lose everything.
@@majormononoke8958 yes, working on it 👌
That plague on the marines at the very end hit basically all of them
crazy back and forth game
Fantastic muta control from effort! Totally took control, even though he was behind.
Awesome game back and forth the whole time!
Very unique army composition from Effort. Crazy that he played the last 10 minutes of the game without lurkers.
It was a very interesting game from a low econ point of view. JYJ never got rolling again, so Effort's low economy mix worked fine.
a masterpiece. great cast.
1:30 it is very sad indeed,
every time I hear the name Jangbi I feel a little too much nostalgic. In another universe we enjoyed a couple of years of himsitting in the #1 Kespa rankings and it is now consensus among BW lovers that during his peak he showed us the best Protoss version the world has ever seen.
Long live the Almighty
jangbi storms were a beauty to witness
Stuff like this is why I have a sour taste in my mouth towards SC2 and SSB brawl. The sequels that took the wind out of the sails of two of the best esports.
Would love to have him back in action. Wonder what he moved onto.
Fantasy is the head coach for a LOL team.
love it arty i need mor
An amazingly back and forth game! Would love to see some snow or rain or scan games!
Gg, thanks for the cast, Artosis!
Fantastic game. I thought it was over at least 3 times
Artosis, I unfortunately let life get in the way of StarCraft. Your daily cast gives me my fix. It’s the same variety I got while playing myself and I can watch without devoting all the time it takes to stay competitive. Thank you
Such a great performance by both!
Awesome match!!
That was a great game. It could've gone either way. Both players get an "A" for effort, but it's a "W" for EffOrt
Effort starts with "e", tho.
@@BenjaminGlattit means win right
@@tenacioustony8112 yeah not being mean but he's probably a little autistic. that's the downside of this super nerdy stuff, you get these guys.
The joke.
@@tenacioustony8112's head.
Oh you rascal!
Sick game, sick cast
you are the best caster Artosis..LOve you
sick game, dat plague at the end...
@arty could you find some 20 min+ ZvZ games to cast? the hive tech games in ASL this season left me hungry for more
Damn defilers are so good. As Arty always says, the game changes once defilers are out.
Zvp Style amazing
Sick Stuff!!!!
God i wish we where in the timeline with eff0rt, Fantasy and JangBi in ASL. PLEASE
What a great game!
the skill level here is insane
Damn, this is crazily GREAT game !!!
Never see Hydra combo Ling with support of Dark swarm and plague like this !!! MasterPiece !!!!
Hey Artosis, speaking of Jangbi, what happened to him? Is he around in the Brood War scene to any extent or has he completely moved on?
he came back in 2017 very shortly and got stomped in online sponsored games (he cited anxiety while streaming being a large factor), and he just didn't feel comfortable being a streamer (the entire landscape of pro play is based around streaming culture now), so he quit and works for his family now.
Sick game
Insane
Great game. Low supply and scrappy feels like an advantage for Zerg.
You can see how much better the Zerg has to be to overcome Terran imbalance, Terran needs a nerf badly and well done to the Zerg, which despite playing an inferior race have superior skills.
Pah, as long as Zerg is winning the game you should shut up about balance.
Amazing game. I watched it without disabling my ad blocker! I hate CZcams! :)
Thanks for not having a spoiler in the title.
Great comeback from a zerg player. At some point it was 17 drones vs 38 scvs.
Yes more effort games!!
Hey arty are we going to get the asl 3rd/4th place match on yt?
It's no longer played since the previous season I believe
Amazing game
hot damn that was a good zvt
God I love Hydra Defiler strats
"Next" zerg bonjwa? We're acknowledging Savior now?
Even flash said saviour had the skills to beat terrans in an era of terran favored maps.
Amazing game.
I hate hearing drones die 😔they make an irritating sound when the fall to firepower. If I was that Zerg player, I would be breaking my pc just of rage, cus losing 3 lurkers to that tag team would drive me crazy ❤️
crazy game.
Amazing game is damn right.
Terran so OP. Can do bunker rush, then quick expand while zerg does very quick low eco 2 hatch muta. Yet Terran can still sunken bust before mutas come out
Why wouldn’t Zerg move to guardian scourge Muta earlier?
Wow nice to see Zerg kicking terran
wondering why effort didn't take the safe third
jesus christ effort is wild
Around ~5:08 JYJ had like a dozen marines vs like 8 zerglings and walked like half way across the map and zerg didn’t make any sunken or anything.
Couldn’t he just have walked all the way across the map and rally more marines and won the game right there?
He didn’t have scouting info, if effort was massing lings jyj would have lost that fight. Typically zergs can get sunken up too, but effort was cutting corners.
I always thought that hydras could beat, head on, a bio army if you have the right numbers, plague and some decent micro.
FINALLY! I see it done properly.... after like 15 years of watching starcraft.
The other one I'm waiting to see is that... you can actually save a ton of defilers from dying to iradiate, by ivesting in overlords drop upgrades.... you can't target a defiler if it is inside an overlord.
So you will use it just like high templars and shuttles. You unload, cast your spells and upload again.
But I guess I'll have to wait another 15 years for that one xd.
sounds like a great idea!
Do Terrans know that you can repair SVs?
~12 vessels popped because of no repair..
WOW.....
JyJ had a rough game this time. Seems like he didn't map out his base layout to beat mutas and was overall just sloppy this game. Effort did just normal muta harass and did massive damage. Either JyJ didn't expect a normal timed lair after a successful bunker rush, or just had a bad game.
At 13:00~ minutes he literally sends scvs back to his natural when he still hadn't consolidated defenses. His valk micro was the most atrocious part of the entire game, as he literally threw them away against the muta/scourge blob without support over and over and let effort snowball his already dominant air supremacy. Definitely deserved to lose this game
I see terrans suiciding plagued 1hp vessels left and right… Is it really not worth repairing them?
Normally it doesnt matter for JyJ, but this game i didnt have the eco you have in a normal game...
The correct comp to play against T is defiler + any other unit.
❤
why set up tanks and pull all the bio away?
if effort had expanded at 9 o'clock first, then he would have been in a much better position during mid game
Nice of RT to feature a match played on a Christian map.
damnnnnnnnn
effort did it twice vs flash, both 0-2 comebacks
All i know is Mutas are perfectly balanced and fair unit.
ah, JangBi... :(
Hydras
I feel like last ASL was fixed
The ASL where JyJ won, he didn't win because he was the superior player but rather just a poor showing of most of the other pros and luck with matches.
this zerg composition is so nukeable....
Why do we call it sk terran?
It was invented by a player called SoulKey (not the zerg player)
Thanks a lot! Didn't know that. @@MrTheQuestioner
@@MrTheQuestionerI always find it amazing that such a seemingly unique name was used twice and in the same game!
Like I understand there being multiple "Hero", but "SoulKey" ? Is "the key to (one's) soul" something in South Korea?
Are we sure that's Effort? Unusually low APM for him
I mean he just got out of the military. He may not be in best of shape and this replay could be a few months old.
I was thinking the same thing, I think this is Queen.
I might be wrong, Artosis usually knows his stuff, the way this game ended make me question what I said.
Do be honest looked more like Soulkey, which is the best player with that style or action who pulled the dark swarm only lings some years ago.
Though effort also showed how good he is with that style last ASL... Effort apm level until 11 minutes or so than it dropped quite
@@majormononoke8958 Artosis his sources for gamer IDs and replays are very reliable, mistakes are still possible ofcourse.
Counted no less than 8 vessels just thrown away, 3 of them at the end just bad rallies across the map. Sloppy.
Also, 2 overlords just outside JyJ’s base, never cleared them, he took his last Valkyrie and just flew it across the map trying to hunt Mutas and immediately lost it to scourge, kill the overlords, an easy 2 outside your base that you knew about and another one at the 9 o’clock, that’s just free value he left on the table.
Sloppy sloppy sloppy.
starcraft is starting to overtake theorycraft
Anti spoiler
jyj threw this game so hard lol. let his marines autoattack drones instead of focus firing so he only got like 2. should have just kept killing mutas in retrospect. played way too aggressive with his marines and didn't defend his turrets. didn't manage his air units and kept letting them die for free. billions of vessels but no repairs and no eraser on the 9 o'clock base he was sieging.
obv i'm not a pro and cannot do a fraction of anything that happened in this game, but he made so many mistakes and still had a chance to win
Is it just me or do turrets seem fucking useless for something that can only shoot air?
hahah, well maybe build more. It is so funny when you play on lower level they build much more turrets. And usually they are more effective there... Because muta micro sucks... On Pro level we see them often not building enough.
why pretend that bw pro scene died because of starcraft 2, when in fact it happened because of the collusions
I don't care what anyone says, one of these days we will get a T-player that is really good at microing Valkyries and actually repairs Vessels - and that player will just fucking dominate. Shiesses we see 1.000 1.000 mineral/gas being lost in the span of 30 seconds to just a couple of hydras.
I think that is the next step for T in TvZ. We hardly saw Firebats and Valkyries in ASL just a couple of years ago and now they are staple units. As skill levels keep increasing, like you say, the Terran that can find the APM to keep vessels and valks alive will dominate TvZ.
These players apm is already at the human physical limit though.
: )
this terran was very weak
первыйнах!
Spoiler buster!
Tell us the stupid reason you call it SK terran 😨 I'm tired of thinking it's "South Korean" terran
Popularized/invented by SoulKey, a pro terran from when dinosaurs walked the earth.
@@gasstationpeanuts1814 soulkey the zerg player?
@@drewwalbeck6006no, another player.
Best SK terran player in the Word?Lol and what about Flash?
Flash hasnt even showed up since he left the military
JyJ is not better than Light, not better than Royal and not better than Rush with SK terran mid-late game, he is just okay or medicore for a pro.
You are out of your mind for calling him mediocre?
He is great at 1/1/1 builds and wraiths, early cheese early to mid game but late game yes compared to other ASL terrans, he is just okay or medicore late game. He is overrated(relative to ASL pros) just like Jaedong is.@@SmokerFace12
insane game
the cross in the middle of the map should be upside down. simply because gods not real. GG!