CRITICAL OR ATTACK SPEED: WHICH IS BETTER ON MOSKOV?
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- CRITICAL OR ATTACK SPEED: WHICH IS BETTER ON MOSKOV?
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The advantage of attack speed build was the early game corosion was enough for him to go 1v1 on other marksman and assassin while the crit build needed 2 items
attack speed works good in early crit works in late game
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And it's harder to build against speed build over crit
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What makes the trinity build better is the faster cooldown of 1st and 2nd skill which you didn't maximize in this video comparison.
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notice the passive counter on the bottom? he is waiting for the last second before dashing to maximize the attack because there is a slight delay when dashing, so he is maximizing the damage output here.
OMG the moskov God has spiken
The video just prioritizes activating his 1st.
For this sort of experiment, it's better to show an in game example of the advantages and disadvantages of each build. Eg: The attack speed build, you can use a clip of Moskov taking up different positions fast because of the low CD of his skill 1 and 2.
trinity build is good for high hp heroes much more stable damage than critical hits 1v1 with mm critical build vs critical build mm critical wins because it does more damage but critical build is used to attack heroes fighter, tank with defensive power and More hp is possible as well but requires seahelbalt instead of wind talker and added merafic roer
Overall the crit build is better than trinity for moskov in real game
It really depends on the enemy comp. If they bring lots of Tanky heroes, Trinity + Sea Halberd will be better. If there are many squishy heroes, Crit is the way to go. That's why it's important to adjust during the draft phase and not just stick to 1 build.
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Correct.
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Not all 5 of them prefer tanks dude there's a mage, fighter, support with only one tank if enemy prefer balance team it would be stupid of them to chose tank over dmg regardless of hero
Sure but that's not the point of comparison. What's compared here is merely build. You're adding another variable in your comment, which is not a scientific approach.
In this video, they are matched up against each other. It's a good comparison. Although, I think a better comparison would be against different enemies but consistent for both builds. Then, we can get the average time of defeating the enemies per build. We can also get the average damage dealt. Or whatever metrics we want to look at.
You should take into consideration the fact that it takes a lot less items for the attack speed build to shine making it much more suitable for early game.
It also has Golden staff making it so moskov can spam his second and first
More dodges for attack speed build
But crit build is much cheaper specifically windtalker whilst all items of attack spd build costs 2,000+ gold
@@SMARTA69crit build needs atleast 2 items to actually shine meanwhile attack speed just needs corrosion to 1v1 marksmen in early game
@@qwerty0047 Trinity wins against crit with just 1 item, but after 2 items Crit can already snowball with both high dmg, atk speed and quite a high lifesteal, not to mention completing the Crinity build is a bit faster than Trinity.
Anyone should remember that
a basic attack-based marksman hero should increase its scalling in Basic Attack like Crit or Increasing the damage with BOD, MALEFIC ROAR, BLADE OF HEPTASEAS OR HUNTER STRIKE. The Attack Speed items is only reliable when the enemy is tanky, not much marksman equip this but Melissa and Moskov are one of them.
Claude aswell and Karrie and wanwan
Your videos are very good, it has a lot of detailed information
Instead of windtalker, it is betted to use dhs or green scythe depending in the situation you're on, because skill 1 + inspire enough to generate fast atk speed, so windtalker is not really needed
I'm seeing this as trinity build as a counter for tanky heroes(usually utility jungler/heroes) and crit build for squishy enemy line up
I used hybrid build. The demon hunter sword and Corrosion sythe combined with Berserker's fury. The first two reduces cool down while the Berserker's fury increases the burst effect. I use 'fatal' as one of the talents
Nice job elgin. Cant wait for more streams tho
The Trinity Build is suited for going against tanky enemies especially with, not only the HP-based damage, but also the mobility it gives for Moskov. This gives him some leeway to kite tanky heroes, because most of the time, those guys are lacking in mobility.
And yea, Crit.'s burst potential is amazing still. Hasn't changed at all in its effectiveness to settle scores against squishy enemies.
Nah, he already showed the example with Atlas. Crit is literally still better.
Thanks Elgin! I love the ulti in the Last part😂
It is just 1% dhs nerf and smallest nerf in mlbb history.
The 1% :
I think both builds will work depending on the enemy hero line up and their itemization, but either aspd or crit is your preference...it ain't matter especially in late game.😊
Nice Bro. Do more item mechanic videos like this one
All we need to remember is that they are tools of the trade always in our belt, and we can choose to make use of both of them as necessary.
The comparison is good but I think it's not fair for the aspd build because it's advantage lies on the early game while in the crit build you need to complete your build first to get the best effect
it's not about which build is better overall, critical build needs 2 item to move forward while with just corrosion scythe moskov is good to go. I always prefer crit but change if they have dmg reduction heroes. Not tanky ones but dmg reduction ones
You can also change windtalker with either dhs, sea halberd or corrosion scythe.
True
The results would've been different if you did this video before the nerf. 1% less on dhs and 10 less phys atk on GS prolly accounted for its loss
Tbh ur right
And what's the point of that? That's already in the past and is no longer relevant
@@SadPeachCat dumbass. Past changes can always be reverted
Super informative.
Can you also compare other mms?
Hanabi, Melissa etc.?
Honestly, Trinity/ASP build is automatically always better simply because of shorter 1st skill cooldown, that's useful for mobility.
Great video👍🏻
I was actually surprised on the result vs Tanky Hero. With the same last 2 items in the Video, I guess the Trinity build has better sustain in a team fight due to having 2 Lifesteal Items. But the ATK SPD build would win in pushing due to Windtalker.
Being tanky isn't always about Health point, it is about physical/magical defence too.
Critical build is op for enemies without blade armor
@@kaito7132 you facing epic gm all days?
@@user-bp2qy9me1t Blade armor reduces critical chance. Without blade armor, critical build so strong even against tanky heros.
@@user-bp2qy9me1t also why did you say about be facing epic, gm? Are you stucked at legend or mythic 5 and got frustrated?
@@kaito7132 many dont build it tho cuz it is mostly wasting an important slot for a better item, the physical def can easily be countered w malefic roar as for the dmg reflecting can be countered w life steal and then u need to counter the life steal etc, in short its not gonna do too much imo.The item would be much better againdt trinity cuz its more focused on the atk speed and effects rather than pure dmg(and the dmg is revolving around the dhs passive mostly) so blade armor not having hp would be good against the trinity build.Ofc we'd need actual demonstration to see in what scenario performs better and there r mant factors to take in consideration.
thanks the video bro.. :)
Your accent and videos are so good
Attack Speed all the way for me, I dont care who burst faster. Trinity Build makes your skill 1 cd fast(because of GS also) and that's how you do your micros to moscov. Mobility makes moscov hard to kill.
Attack speed is more equipped for enemy tanky hero compared to crit build
Blinking won’t matter if u killed the main threat’s of Moskov(MM/Assassin) even before they can lock you in
So Crit build >>>ASPD build
@@abhrajitpaul2744 It's not a 1v1 game. Mobility is more useful when in teamfights especially assassin is aiming at you or any enemy tank/support. Have you seen nowadays current meta especially in Pro matches moscov built a Crit items? Also DHS has a lifesteal so you can sustain yourself a bit, you dont build first a hassclaw or any lifesteal before you build a crit item, about the video, its just like 0.5 faster killing the enemy? Like duhhh.... And crit items has a direct counter, blade armor and a slow of dominance ice.
@@abhrajitpaul2744 Lmao,
Epic talk right there.
How bad are your opponents when you can pick off their main dmg dealers that easily.
Agree it make cd faster I'm a moskov user too
Test next on Argus please, I use both but tbh I don't find significant differences because both melted tank heroes late game, and almost instantly delete squishies, but idk which actually bit better XD
Kindly make a video of Claude between crit and attack speed.❤
I always struggling in which build I will gonna use thanks for the update elgin😁
Critical is better for 1v1 while the attack speed build is generated for full team attack wherethe passive can work better
Both are good in their own ways depends on the situation
I Agree
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Can you do the same comparison with others mm like clint, or layla, or Nathan. Compare which builds is better
Thanks bro
Next plz do karina tank vs damage im really confused about it i did some research but never found a proper answer
Attack speed moskov is much like badang, being able to stun many times without giving the opponent a chance. Higher attack speed gives moskov more cooldown to both his skill 1 and 2 than the critical one, and It can be an infinite stun unless moskov's mana runs out.
Attack speed build has a counter to it. Example for it is tank with blade armor and vengence spell.
Thanks Elgin, I really missed the point that attack speed will give moskov more dash, from now on i'll stick with attack speed build
i reccomend doing a hybrid build so u can find what u prefer just dont use golden staff with crit items the extra attack speed is not worth it
if some one build merge of crit and attack speed build your moskov will go in sane
Do a comparision between these two Selena builds:
Build 1: Demon Shoes, Clock Of Destiny, Lightning Truncheon, Holy Crystal, Divine Glaive, Winter Truncheon
Build 2: Demon Shoes, Calamity Reaper, Genius Wand, Holy Crystal, Divine Glaive, Berserker Fury
Do a comparision between the early and late game damage, using 1-2 items in early and full build in late, since Selena is an early game snowball kind of hero
His videos are the shortest and clearest.
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@@Chadmi333 the hell?
can you try the usual CS DH GS then use crit chance items to make use of GS special passive
thank you sensei
Both are still situational
Critical is definitely good for squishy enemies
While atk speed is good for tanky because you can delete their health fast,unless they equipped blade armor
Thank you
Atk speed is usually for people who likes to have more sustain. Crit is for those who want to burst. They are both great. Just boils down to preference
Atk spd: Corrosion, Golden Staff, DHS, Haas, Atk Speed or Def boots, Flex (Immortality or Wind of Nature). Boots are usually replaced with windtalker to still have a bit of movement speed and atk spd
Crit: Windtalker, Scarlet, Berserkers, Haas, Atk Speed or Det boots, Flex. Boots is usually replaced with Malefic
atk speed used against enemies who have a lot of HP
while critical is the opposite
and i think critical more sustain than atk speed, of course if u buy has claw
It really just depends on the enemy line up, for me is to use attack speed build if the enemy heroes can use defence item since critical build is easy to counter, blade armor and vengeance will do the trick, so its better to adjust on your items base from the enemy, its really just a mistae to use critical build while there's a belerick on the enemy side. The advantage with the attack speed is, its better for early game because of the corrosion scythe and its slow effect will also help, demon hunter is also an advantage for early, since the unique passive devours enemy heroes hp base from there hp
But I will most likely use attack speed build, because sometimes we can't reach late game
Hey, you could make a comparaison betweet full attack items and a tanky jungler build on the revamped alpha
For my crit build moscov i dont buy boots since i mostly rely on traveling faster with his S1. I dont use malefic roar. Instead i use Sea halerburg, and the highest damage item. Sometimes ill switch that item with haas claws, or wind item. But with that ive been dominating legend with crit moscov this season.
Can you make this content with Alpha? Is he still good with his usual build, or go to aspd build?
do roger next, if penetration or critical
Congratulations 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 Elgin
CRIT build argus vs atk speed argus next 👉🏼👈🏼
WOAH I have been using ASPD as jungling now I'm gonna use critic
Crit build is best if enemies have a hero that's bursts you down easily, and if you don't want defence items or the defense items aren't enough, your best hope is to Burst them down with crit build before they burst you
The problem with the critical build is when a tanky heroes have Blade armor and vegeance spell it can kill moskov first. But it depends on the enemies hero lineups.
Elgin, pls do atk spd vs physical damage on Beatrix for each gun.
Maybe try to compare a combination build,
DHS, CorSythe, Berserkers, Scarlet, Malefic... I notice that no one talks about this..
I use Sea Halberd on him because of the 8% damage increase.
FINALLY, someone who actually utilizes this underrated item
heck me too, i used to combine crit build plus sea halberd.. it gives you high attack and attack speed
Only if your enemy have higher HP than you
So many marksman could use that extra damage
And yet they always don't
@@DeadBattleBrother15which is the case most of the time. Even mages can have higher HP than Moskov if they build items like CoD, NoD, Glowing Wand etc. Assassins usually build Endless Battle or Heptaseas, and both have HP stats.
passive advantage for atk speed build u can reposition alot
Next should be Argus, Im trying to learn how to use Argus but I don't know which is better ASPD or CRIT
Probably skill issue but as an aggressive type of Marksman player, i enjoy crit even though aspd sets are most recommended, i just found that aspd is better for longer fights and/or tankier enemies, but in a game where im only in mhonor and onwards, i dont play too much to know how these tank junglers came to be but i make do being the makeshift assassin, been that way even before inspire got a buff and made him famous.
Plz try melissa next
personally prefer Trinity build as critical build is mush slower to make moskov threatening and less flexible if moskov needs a defense item and of course Trinity build synergy is excellent with his 1st & 2nd skill and you easily can ditch boots in late game bcz of super fast attack speed & 1st skill cd
the only reason why people prefer the attack speed build is that, with just 1-2 items, they would be able to dish out a lot of damage already, rather than critical builds where they would need 3 to 4 items in order to deal damage
@Zaphkiel dogshit content
pls do the same tests for Argus
2:43 Contradicting what you just said🤣🤣
No it didn't...
i recommend atk speed build thamuz vs sustain build thamuz for next
A lot of Moskov main don't build boots on him. They go straight corrosion since they can reposition themselves faster
can you do yin next?
Do sun next
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Miya would be great for this test since her passive with attack speed is buffed by alot.
I suggested Bane using physical or magic build next. I already tried the mage build and the dmg is op.
I can mix and match items for Bane but between the two builds, magic build is more on sustainability while physical is more on mobility.
I saw enough speed build Moskov sweeping creeps, tower, lane and jungle. Not in team fight often but it works.
If it's a classic two moskov build ASPD cause you get a power spike earlier and can shut down the other moskovs farming cause you're stronger with 1 item
@Elgin can you review the bug on Gatotkaca's enhanced basic attack? His dmg gets triggered but his dash attack animation does not activate
Omg it though im the only one who experience that
Yeah there's no animation
@@Littlebodybighhearrt Actually I just realized that I have also noticed that bug
I rather go full mix (ATK SPD and Crit) because when you combine them together, it's game over.
I think that attack speed build is still better for moskov because he can use his 1st skill and 2nd skill faster because of his passive
Somehow moontoon was able to make Spd trinity and Critrinity equal after the recent changes made, + new situational crit item for heroes who initiate with their ults, GDS 2.0 Great Dragon Spear
-Trinity is better for early game dmg and lane sustaining due to lifesteal
-Trinity build have no problem in dealing with blade armor
-Trinity build have less skills CD and slow effect
-you don't have to equip additional lifesteal on Trinity if you don't Wind of Nature
-you can start destroying tanks before getting malefic roar
-with Trinity, you can still deal massive dmg with just 3 items, thus you have additional flexibility that you can build more def items
So even if critical at late game deal higher dmg, there are still many advantages with Trinity
Tbh, there's one sneak in the attack speed build, and that's golden staff, sure, it makes you shoot faster but the other attributes it gives are very weak, the physical attack it gives is just too low that it can't make any marksman deal damage, sea halberd is a better pick than it imo, it has life drain, decent stats, and can give you almost as much attack speed as golden stuf and it's passive can deal more damage to enemies with extra hp
Hey Elgin! What Happen if you mix both critical and aspd?
Please show us chang e with golden staff.
Usually i put DHS in crit damage to amplified the crit damage to tank
Martis full tank build VS normal build next.
You can already predict the outcome
Even if u build more AS item. Dominance ice can counter it.
Why peoples prefer ASPD is his first and second skills CD almost 3 second earlier than Critical build. In game specially in tricky situation you cannot be caught by enemies if it's not chain stun or something.
Usually CS and GS has the early game most of the time
Top build for natan comparison
Atk spd build is usually better bcuz nowadays there a lot of tanky lineups
The attack speed build win if its before the nerf the just got nerf
Do guin with magic and tank builds
Well, the trinity build triggers 1st skill faster. I switched to trinity for faster pushing.
The TANKY enemies dont have HP items like Guardian Helmet, I bet ASPD build would be faster vs that.
You forgot to use inspire spell, it makes hero's attack speed limitation become... i forgot, you can read the description of inspire spell
I notice more MM use critical again like melissa and moskov, before the update none of them i saw using the critical build