And the fact that Tsubakill got eliminated first is also outrageous. I was not surprised that they lost the battle to Wolflo but why TF did they end up in that position.
Agreed. When TSUBAKILL got eliminated, it felt like the competition was rigged. Considering the talent, it was strange to see TSUBAKILL leave the show before Deep N Dap.
@@castalan00s Totally, like the voting closed before the show was even aired (the Kpop mission ended in June, and the first episode aired in August). How can you compete for popularity when basically no opportunity was given to the audience to get to know the crew? And not to mention that most of TSUBAKILL's clips were cut out from the episodes (such as their battles were only released after they've been eliminated). Adding to that, in the Kpop Mission, the leading crews with the most online voting all have famous Kpop choreographers (Redlic, Mina, Lia, Bada). It is reasonable to assume that the show is rigged as it basically set the underground and foreign crews up for failure. And it was ridiculous that the online voting was worth 600/1000 points.
this show promoted itself as a global competition and a global challenge and always catered to the global audience for streams and challenges, yet 80% of the score was from only korea while 20% for global. crazyy
The fact that people are saying we make everything about race but they shut up or don’t comment when we mention this we aren’t calling anyone racist we’re just pointing out the fact that they never planned on letting jam republic win over a Korean group
스우파는 인기투표로 변질됬다😢😢 애초에 스우파의 순위는 그들의 실제 실력을 대변하지 못한다. 마네퀸은 처음부터 잘해왔지만 항상 인기투표에서 져서 고배를 마셔야했다😢😢 그러니 모두들 편하게 보면 좋을 것 같다. 모든 크루가 잘하는 것은 우리가 이미 알아주는 것만으로도 충분하다.
The queerbaiting allegation for Bada is out of the line. It's her personality. She's boyish even before SWF and she has choreographed for a lot of male kpop groups because of her masculine dance style... It's not her fault that a lot of girls are thirsting over her altho her fans can be annoying at times
Also, using the term “queerbait” on real people is so icky. There’s no such thing as queerbaiting IRL. Remember the last time people accused an actor of queerbaiting and essentially forced him to come out the closet? Yeah, let’s not fucking do that again.
We all knew from the JUMP that MNET was going to choose a Korean crew... I honestly feel that MNET was not expecting JAM REPUBLIC to grow so popular not only in Korea but outside Korea! Their popularity skyrocketed since the 1st episode. The final is as expected! I am super proud though of JAM REPUBLIC and all JAMMIES everywhere! you stayed strong to the very end!! 💕💕💕💕💕
They cut off Tsubakill in an instant once they started to grow traction was evidence enough, they were afraid that they would become even popular. JR though, I think MNET miscalculated a lot and thought they would able to kick them out at least in the semis but the support for them was to big so they resorted to this.
스우파를 엠넷이 조작했다고 말하는 건 정신 승리일뿐, 해외팬들은 잼리퍼블릭이 차별당한다고 생각하는데 이것은 큰 착각이다. 잼리퍼블릭은 국내투표수로만으로도 원밀리안과 마네퀸을 이겼고 국내에서 큰 호평을 받고 있다. 하지만 해외팬들은 그들과 익숙한 해외그룹인 잼리퍼블릭만 응원하고 이것은 오히려 비정상적인 역차별을 일으킬 수 있다. 참고로 베베는 엠넷이 조작한 것이 아니라 한국의 여성팬들이 바다에게 반해 압도적인 인기를 가지고 있다. 이는 국내 대중들도 인기투표로 변질됬다며 비판하는 부분이고 해외팬들뿐만 아니라 국내팬들도 불만이 있다는 것을 인지해줬으면 좋겠다
true.. now i remember how they tried to evil edit the video clips of latrice .. they were trying to smear the good reputation of jam rep crew so that viewers would think of jam rep the negative way... but... it boomeranged on them.. coz the more they tried to manipulate the facts, the more we love jamrep...
They probably couldn't kick out JR easily. They're too popular globally. I don't think SWF would be too popular globally without JR on the team. I kinda predicted JR wouldn't win 1st place, after all, winners usually do guesting in other shows.
When tsubakill was eliminated I already figured it's another mnet self proclaimed global show and already expected that JR are gonna crawl their way up to atleast be in the finals hanging on a very thin thread of support from global fans cause their votes means shit, just like most international performers in an mnet survival show. So JR being loved by Koreans enough to get them 2nd is already surprising. Ig Bebe winning was just a suprise to me cause my prediction was 1mil
This is why I absolutely loved season 1. It was not so predictable and every team gave a good fight and the deserving team placed first. But this time there was no thrill and seemed boring because I knew what the result would be
Like literally the only plot twist I didn't see coming was tsuba kill getting eliminated first other than I already know what will happen on each mission
It was clear from the start they'd do this. Foreign group who looks overpowered, but the triumphant Koreans will beat them in a display of nationalism!
잼리퍼블릭의 춤실력은 절대적으로 완벽하나 안무에 대한 창의력이 부족하다. 그들의 신체적 강점을 잘살려서 소름이 돋았던 적만 있지, 그이상의 무대를 보여주지 못했다. 딥앤댑이랑 마네퀸이 보여준 팀합에 비하면 부족하다. 해외팬들은 잼리퍼블릭이 차별당한다고 생각하는데 이것은 큰 착각이다. 잼리퍼블릭은 국내투표수로만으로도 원밀리안과 마네퀸을 이겼고 국내에서 큰 호평을 받고 있다. 하지만 해외팬들은 그들과 익숙한 해외그룹인 잼리퍼블릭만 응원하고 이것은 오히려 비정상적인 역차별을 일으킬 수 있다. 마네퀸은 항상 최고의 모습을 보여주었지만 인기투표로 인해 항상 쓴 고배를 마셨다. 즉 스우파에서 순위는 그들의 실력을 대변하는 것이 아니라는 것을 인지하고 시청하면 편해진다.
Hmm disagree. Bebe may lack the dancing power that Jam Republic has ( significantly ) but many of their choreography are unique and enjoyable. Personally for me, JR's choreographies are great but they are a bit too sexy and "western-is" for my taste so kinda depends, do people prefer choreography creativity or dancing skills as their base in voting.
@@Jun_071 I disagree with you too. JR has not only dancing skills but charisma and stage presence. You look at Bebe, and your eyes go to Bada but when you look at JR ? You look at everyone not only Kristen. As a group, JR definetly deserves to be no.1 objectively in this match but unlike OP who is ironically being racist themselves by thinking the majority choose Bebe simply for being Koreans, they forget that the choreography that are made be Bebe are more welcomed in general and Bada's is just that cool thus can be the reasons they choose them.
JR not winning was predictable from the beginning tbh, and that’s just because the Mnet we know will never allow it. But Bebe finishing first did surprise me ngl - don’t get me wrong, with each passing week they did showcase their strengths and garner popularity quickly (Bada’s challenge alone brought enough interest to the crew to last them throughout the show imo). But to win against some of these other crews? Objectively, nah idts. I’m just glad this show gave us many great moments and that’s the most important.
@@marlonandres1312Stop being toxic, haven't you seen Audrey's story? Bebe have been consistent since day 1, they won first place in most missions and they were popular globally and in Korea. Jam Republic was satisfied with theirs but why are th fans being so toxic? Can't you just congratulate the winner?
@@lyn4977 im just saying the truth the facts im not being toxic and hello bebe is not as famous globally most are only in korea not like kirsten so stop saying they are globally famous not even close you want me to congratulate them well BEBE CONGRATS satisfied?
I was prepared not to be surprised when JAM didn't get first place, but then I was still surprised when they didn't get first place seeing how good their performance was and the individual dance abilities of the Jam members that they had, which were unique, strong and had their own character. This crew always gives something simple but can make something simple look powerful, that alone shows how good they are, there's no need to rely too much on props to cover their dances to make them look striking, their dances and expressions alone are enough to make people feel their energy, For some reason, I would be more satisfied if Manequeen were in first place because each of the members are great and don't just depend on the leader but they are able to work together for the team
THIS. First place should be Mannequeen, not Jam. I'm sorry. Even if Jam is slightly better at choreo, Mannequeen is on a whole different planet in battling. They are the most wellrounded crew in the entire franchise
@@ferwoodz You talk as if they haven't been putting on some of the best choreographed performances this season, all of which are voted as the best by actual professionals like many of the SMF alumni. Just Jerk the actual winners even unanimously agreed Mannequeen was the best performer in the finale. If you are referring to teamwork, ALL 6 MEMBERS are strong characters but they all work amazingly well together and fully behind Funky Y as their leader. If egos were to clash in any crew, it would have been this one, but it didn't happen. They didnt have a single disagreement or argument among them. They are so proud of their crew they are continuing to remain a crew.
You know what, actually if this show was purely 100% judged by profesional judges since day 1( no global or audience vote) Lady Bounce or WolfLo could have stay in the final stage or even won this competition. That would be very authentic, no popularity and "street" the show is. Anyways, the past has already passed. Whether it's rigged or not, I'm happy that Bebe won. I think they did great in every missions and maintain consistent results especially the scores from fight judges.
y'all be saying you only know bada. how can y'all know the rest of the members if you're only focusing on your faves? If you are really watching the show, you'll eventually get to know them. We can't deny that BEBE is a rookie crew but let's be honest, all of the members dance very well. Their choreography and synchronization is top tier. Even other crews praise them for their clean choreo. Stop saying that they don't deserve to win. All the crews deserve to win as they did their best. Just please don't discredit the efforts they've put into. ps. I love all of them
Thank you so much for this honest truth their talking as if we know every single member from every crew apart from Bebe. Tatter did such a good job in the kpop mission and the girls slayed the battle mission. Lusher and tatter even rose up to the occasion when bada was down due to the mega mission
That what i think too. I know every names in all group other than leaders that did great each episode. For bebe case, lusher, tatter and mina stand out. But in this final stage, they are all served, with kyma makes lots of surprise. I'm amazed by their assumption in this comment section. So toxic
I'M SORRY BUT IF YOU WATCH THE WHOLE SHOW YOU WILL KNOW THAT OTHER CREW WORK HARDER THAN THEM. THEY EVEN LOSE WEIGHT BECAUSE THEY PUT ALL THE EFFORTS TO WIN EVERY BATTLE AND MISSION. I DON'T SEE THOSE KIDS WORK HARD BECAUSE THEY DEPEND BADA WHO DO IT ALL, THEY EVEN DIDN'T HAVE DETERMINATION TO GO BATTLE ON THEIR OWN AND PROVE THEMSELVES. BECAUSE THEY ALWAYS HIDE BEHIND BADA
@@akuhappy3246what episode did tater, lusher, mina stand out? Because as far as I remember they never do individual battle. LMAO LET'S BE REAL HERE. IF THEY DO SOLO BATTLE THEY WILL ALL IMMEDIATELY LOST.
@@lulushintaadinda222 well Mr or miss realist Bebe won six of their battles and the six weren't won by only bada so open your eyes or better yet your brain so you can analyse things when tsubakill put that acrobatic move in the kpop mission it's also bada that worked so hard to do that flip right? If you want to hate be direct
I think this competition should be judged by dancers and not by non dancers. Non dancers only vote for who they like. But this is a dance competition. Not a idol competition. We dont go by who is more famous. But by who is a better dancer. Who put up better dance performance. Hello mnet?!
i agree - the judges should have a much higher vote count because they know the technicalities. This years panel of judges was a huge improvement though, with Monika and Mike Song being professional and vet dancers, shownu, despite being an idol dancer, i think was just to bring people in. but its leagues better than season 1s judges 💀
I also think it was manipulated, since a few chapters ago it was obvious that BEBE was going to win. Not allowing the international public to vote ensured that BEBE would win, if the vote had been worldwide, JAM would win.
잼리퍼블릭의 춤실력은 절대적으로 완벽하나 안무에 대한 창의력이 부족하다. 그들의 신체적 강점을 잘살려서 소름이 돋았던 적만 있지, 그이상의 무대를 보여주지 못했다. 그들은 항상 5명이 동시에 같은 춤을 춘다. 즉 춤 구조의 다양성이 부족하다. 해외팬들은 잼리퍼블릭이 차별당한다고 생각하는데 이것은 큰 착각이다. 잼리퍼블릭은 국내투표수로만으로도 원밀리안과 마네퀸을 이겼고 국내에서 큰 호평을 받고 있다. 하지만 해외팬들은 그들과 익숙한 해외그룹인 잼리퍼블릭만 응원하고 이것은 오히려 비정상적인 역차별을 일으킬 수 있다. 참고로 베베는 엠넷이 조작한 것이 아니라 한국의 여성팬들이 바다에게 반해 압도적인 인기를 가지고 있다. 이는 국내 대중들도 인기투표로 변질됬다며 비판하는 부분이고 해외팬들뿐만 아니라 국내팬들도 불만이 있다는 것을 인지해줬으면 좋겠다
JamRe got robbed but also Manequeen and 1 Million. Broooo during ending Credit Mission alongside with Jamre, 1 million ate too and also in the global one Manequeen ate too. 😢😢😢
You should not downgrade BEBE just to praise others honey. BEBE DESERVE the win. Look at their synchronization and choreo! Dancing in a team requires a good clean look movement and they have that. Others team have different angle and makes it look a bit messy but BEBE not. That's why a lot of people vote for them. EVEN all the dancers since day 1 of the show they praise BEBE for clean choreo and synchronization. So, everyone deserve their place.
Dude I get your point, but to discredit the hard work that Bebe also put through in the competition? They were mostly ranked “To be eliminated” and were even treated as underdogs in the first episode, but they never ranked lower than Top 5. To make it seem like they did not deserve the win as well is just crazy. Maybe you should just diss and throw hate at Mnet’s system (cuz it is really fcked up), but please don’t do it to the crews. They all deserve to win. 😢
Do note that all the crews and staff of the show had dinner together to celebrate. The hell’s wrong with Team Bebe bringing home the trophy and Bada going to her boyfriend? That’s just sad 😞
Agree! The creator of this video is just bitter and probably been crying since the show ended. I pity this persons life. The way this person discredits other people's work is so disgusting. I bet this person don't have any talent but to clout chase. Mind you, Kirsten of Jam Republic highly speaks of Bada Lee and her team so who are you again??? a wokey keyboard warrior! Ha! At the end of the day, they are all winners! We'd like to celebrate that peacefully so yeah.. enjoy your life!
So true I don't get it why she's looking down on bebe like how and she also thinks that bebe is not good enough without bada but they proved them wrong when they performed only with Bada joining later for only a few seconds
Yeah, and i amazed by the "viewer" with close minded tendency in this comment section. Lots of peoples that likes to demeaning others here. Shame on them.
ion think bada queer baited tho? that’s just her style, she pulls of dancing in a feminine AND masculine way, it’s just based on how we interpret it . she could dance masculine and be straight .. ! ( correct me if im wrong : )
Jam republic did deserve 1st place. You said it was a popularity concert and you’re right but jam republic was just as popular. It has to do with popularity and race.
Mhm not really not when especially for their last performances votes were only open for people with korean phone numbers and not international votes. So yes still rigged
Jam made a show and did not compete on their final performance, don't you think? This a competition not a show. Try comparing their moves and variations to the final performances on the other 3. Mannequeen even showed a good fight than Jam, I believe so.
people saying that only bada stood out in bebe and that she is the sole reason they won and discrediting other members clearly did not watch the whole show and only focused on their faves so they can't stop being biased
Yeah, what do you expect with this kind of peoples that filled this comment section. Bunch of close minded peoples with tendency to demean others works to make their favorit and their ego bigger
I agree. They didn't even consider the ranking in the previous missions. Jam is good and I like them too but they never really ranked first place in the overall score.
I’m gonna be honest I watched the show and the only members names I can remember are lusher and tatter aside from BADA the others had nothing like the other crews like capri or rena is around their age yet is so much better
Not really sure if it was rigged or not but as the episodes progressed it became more evident that Bebe was gonna win, and if not Bebe then 1M. I really had no hopes for JR or even for that matter any other crew to win because how the voting system was given weightage (more weight to on site votes and less to judges' votes and the public online votes) it was very evident that the group which was more popular amongst Korean audience would win and you cannot argue that somehow Bebe and 1M were THE MOST popular amongst Knetz. I think it was all a popularity amongst the locals at the end above anything else. So it wasn't really rigged but rather FLAWED to the core. You call it global and literally give global audience 20% of literally ALL the efforts they put for last 2-3 months or so
Nah it was rigged from the start. They never intended to let a foreign crew win which is why they set the voting up the way they did. How you gonna make an homogenous audiences vote count more than professionals who actually dance for a living and then not even allow GLOBAL voting for an INTERATIONAL show? Thats not flowed, thats a set up.
Thank you yes it’s FLAWED I have the same problem when ppl say they riggedly kicked out tsubakill Like it might be a shame but it’s fair & square Thief popularity came late they had to face wolfhound in battle Wolf lol ate them up
@@rayanyuvis2919 The voting system was extremely problematic in TSUBAKILL's case. I personally don't have problems with public voting as it is a TV show, after all. BUT it was not okay that the voting closed before the show was even aired (the mission ended in June and the first episode aired in August). How can you compete for popularity when basically no opportunity was given to the audience to get to know the crew? And not to mention that most of TSUBAKILL's clips were cut out from the episodes (such as their battles were only released after they've been eliminated). More so, in the Kpop Mission, the leading crews with most online voting all have famous Kpop choreographers (Redlic, Mina, Lia, Bada). Therefore, it is reasonable to assume that the show is somewhat rigged as it basically set the underground crews and foreign crews up for failure considering the online voting worth 600/1000.
You can voice out your opinion, but don't discredit what bebe is capable of. They did all they can to win the competition. All of them. And I think they deserveed it
JR got a perfect score of 200 on the crew mission which makes up for only 20% of the scores while lost out on the voting which makes up for 80% of the score. Well duh, how are foreigners gonna live vote on something that’s only done through text?? 😅
people who comment out of spite saying bebe didn't deserve to win never really watched the entirety of the show. honestly all the groups that made it to the finals deserved to win. who are you to say they didn't, the actual dancers in that show, dancers who knows things about actual dance, knew how hard everyone had danced, had practice. the audience only sees what mnet wants to show, and y'all fall for it every single time it's actually embarrassing. even old crews that participated in swf and smf had said if only people who criticizes them would see how hard they pulled through technically and literally. "bada and friends" BS is honestly so tired now, if you actually really watched the show you could see how all the members are determined to show they can reach a professional level, they're her students but they improved a lot, even their competitors had acknowledged it. also JR being a foreign group and still came out 2nd in a korean based show is actually pretty impressive, they gained a lot of korean fans and that was evident from the results. "they never had a chance in winning" is actually such an insult to JR and their efforts in the show. shameful fans will always keep talking, embarrassing.
i wouldn't watch the show bc mnet, but i wanted to see my girls from wolf lo so i had too. these people watched the show on tiktok lmaooo no wonder their brains are like this. audrey lane even had to give a statement they are indeed so embarrassing. especially for this person who had to make a whole video about it too
I definitely agree. BEBE have done nothing but simply participate and work hard just like the other crews. To discredit their effort and continue to call them "Baba & friends" is simply disrespectful. Every crew participated and did their very best, none of them chose where they ended up. People need to criticize Mnet instead of the contestants.
Everyone has an opinion, however, the rules of the show made it so that BEBE would win. I watched every episode and I think 1MM was better than BEBE and that JR was better than them all (my opinion)...which is why they have been dancing with the hotest global K-Pop artist right now...Big Hit/Hybe knew who to cast for their videos with Jungkook...Jam Republic!
um no because each member of JR shone on their own at some point and have their own personal style. no one except their fans know BEBE’s members because none of them had enough experience or personal style to be able to stand out properly
@@excel9567did you even watch the show? Ig you just weren’t paying attention because it wasn’t what you were looking for. Members like Lusher, Tatter, Mina and Kyma had great moments that showed their styles. Every member in a crew doesn’t need a super different style, BEBE has great teamwork and cleaness because of how much their similar styles complemented each other.
I think Bebe won this show due to their talent and every member of Bebe got the opportunity to show them that they were not the worst dancers as the other team said before..so this was worth it 😒 while Bebe's style of dancing is stronger and cleaner than another group...so of course, after winning the competition we all become happier so did bada and there was no restriction to have fun with your boyfriend after you got a great achievement 🙏.
Oop no lies detected in this video. Honestly, it is really frustrating to see times and times again Mnet clear favoritism for their Korean talents. Like what’s the point in an international competition if it’s never the international competitors winning ?! Make it make sense. And you know, I find it so weird. We’re not in 2010, when K-pop and Korean culture were as a whole, way more known in Asia and not really in the west (except groups like Super Junior, Bigbang, Girls Generation, 2ne1 and 4minute). Korean culture as a whole has basically gone mainstream, kinda like Japanese culture in the 1990s. If Mnet and the entertainment industry overall were to show their openness and appreciation, I’m sure they would be seen in a way more positive light… Jam Republic and Mannequeens were definitely on top of the competition. So happy to see many fans giving both groups their flowers.
Mannequeen great at technique but it less neat, jam are neat but the sound they use are less popular among audience. 1mil seems like running out of ideas. Bebe deserve to win they choose right song to hyped the crowd, eventho the mask are not new idea ( jabawokeez known for that) it bring the attention with contrast color. their move are neat too.
잼리퍼블릭의 춤실력은 절대적으로 완벽하나 안무에 대한 창의력이 부족하다. 그들의 신체적 강점을 잘살려서 소름이 돋았던 적만 있지, 그이상의 무대를 보여주지 못했다. 딥앤댑이랑 마네퀸이 보여준 팀합에 비하면 부족하다. 해외팬들은 잼리퍼블릭이 차별당한다고 생각하는데 이것은 큰 착각이다. 잼리퍼블릭은 국내투표수로만으로도 원밀리안과 마네퀸을 이겼고 국내에서 큰 호평을 받고 있다. 하지만 해외팬들은 그들과 익숙한 해외그룹인 잼리퍼블릭만 응원하고 이것은 오히려 비정상적인 역차별을 일으킬 수 있다. 마네퀸은 항상 최고의 모습을 보여주었지만 인기투표로 인해 항상 쓴 고배를 마셨다. 즉 스우파에서 순위는 그들의 실력을 대변하는 것이 아니라는 것을 인지하고 시청하면 편해진다.
@@Jun_071 i think jam didn't lacked creativity, they always put something new and fresh to the table every now and then, they made this choreo for only three days while other crews has 2 weeks in planning and making this. The choreo they did really suit Beyonce's style, it is not overpowering to the face but the whole stuff was captivating and strong, even in the first part i was left agape i thought Beyoncé will make a cameo somehow.
@@Jun_071JamRe had impactful and unforgettable performances. Since episode 1. They are trending worldwide and most of the dancers wanted to cover their performances in every mission. Jam Republic has less time to create choreographies because they are not always in Korea. During Supa2 the members were not in korea for the whole time. They were busy on their own schedules while on the show. 😂😂 And even tho they had less time to practice, They always put delicious meal in the plate to taste and savour. ❤❤❤❤
that's exactly what I thought like it lowkey feels disrespectful to say their win was rigged, i absolutely love jam republic but bebe genuinely deserve it just as much and i'm a western fan too like
@@nanasjaemsI think that the real problem there is not about who won but rather that mnet promoted it to be an international program when international votes during the final counted less then the korean one, so tbh without knowing the real numbers of international votes its fair to say that till a certain extent the show was rigged, we know that Koreans do not like to lose and it was obvious since the start that jam was not going to win
Bada isnt queerbaiting thats just her dance style. She danced like that wayyyy before the show and just has a masculine energy to her that she cant help and shouldnt change just because women have crushes on her??? Be fr. I think bebe is a really good group I'm not mad they won buttttttt I think the other teams are better overall and deserved to win. I honestly think Mannequenn should have won over Jam because they were absolutely amazing in their last performances. Im not mad Bebe won but it is a popularity game. It kinda confirms how I think WayB wouldve won if they made it further into the show.
so many bash that I read I just want to say that bebe deserve it,all of them do there best we can see bada do her best to be a good performer and she teach her teamates to improve all the coaches knew about it don't judge anyone in that show if you all don't know how much they sacrifice for that.
Does anyone even know the names of all the Bebe members, let alone anyone other than Bada? Like be so fr. She stood out all on her own but as a whole, Jam is more well rounded and memorable. Each have their own style but can blend and come together flawlessly
Exactly my point in my other comments. They don't have distinct moves in terms of individuality. Unlike other groups. id rather choose tsubakill than the rest of the members of Bebe. Only Bada stands out and that tater girl who did the tsubakill dancestep.
yall really listening to the words of someone who put together the phrase “queer baiting dance style” just bcs they mad their faves did not win, scrutinising their dancing (formations, complexity, dynamics) would’ve been justifiable smh
I personally think that this ranking was pretty fair. As a jam republic fan I still think that Bebe deserved the win. They were more consistent yet showed something new as well. They also did really well during the challenges.
I don't think bebe were consistent, they were only at the top for like last 2 ep. Jam republic were consistent, never at the bottom always in the top 3
@@tania_0017ok? Bebe literally owned the final ep their choreography is top notch. JR were repetitive with the same moves again and again, that’s what they need to work on before coming to a show like this. 1M don’t have strong dancers par probably like 2 and the rest of the crews again did not dance like a group but danced as if it’s individually their time to shine which doesn’t work in a competition like this. Honestly JR joining has bought in a wave of horrible fans just glad they don’t get to experience happiness.
We know JR deserves better but let’s not just discredit Bebes hard work and talent ?? They have been till here because of their talent not just because of badas popularity..it’s you toxic haters that can’t see other members and just kept on going Bada and her friends since day 1
Yeah this video should banned it's just create conflict and hype 😏 Bebe is the winner, they work with it and that's it, comments are self proclaimed judge why don't they go to korea and be the swf judge..hehe
A lot of you are being unfair to BEBE And quite frankly a lot of you are being unfair to Jam Republic Do you know how hard it is for a foreign team to win let alone place 2nd? Yes, it was never going to be truly fair because Koreans will always vote for a Korean team but despite that, and despite being in 3rd place at the start of this, they clawed their way up. For me, Jam Republic should have won. Their end credit dance made me emotional. As an Ghanaian who was born in American, I was almost in tears. But despite that, I can also see why BEBE won. The intensity of their dance, I could understand it as soon as I heard what their end credit song was. Do you think if BEBE only truly had Bada as a good dancer, they would’ve been able to advance the way they did? Hell no. A lot of the Korean leaders are basically as well known to the Korean public as Kristen is to the International public. But were they voted through? No. BEBE is a solid as hell group. Bada doesn’t carry them, they all can match each other’s energy and intensity perfectly. In this whole competition, the only other GROUP that could match their energy, intensity and movements to this degree is LadyBounce. I don’t say Jam Republic because even though they can match their energy and intensity to such a degree, their movements still have a lot of individuality. Not saying this is a bad thing but it’s more so different strengths different charms. If BEBE wasn’t so solid of a group, if they genuinely didn’t have the talent, they wouldn’t have made it to the finals. Now going back to Jam Republic and why I feel your not being fair to them. This is a Korean competition. Despite the global part they attached, it is a Korean Competition with Korean voters. This was never going to be fair for foreign teams because of how Korea is. It isn’t BEBE or any other teams fault, the fault lies with the way Korean Society is and how this show was structured. Jam Republic knew that going in. In their final performances, they could’ve pandered to the Korean audience to try and get more votes, but they didn’t. They stayed true to themselves and their style. To the point where their last performance was a homage to who they are and where they come from. When all those flags flashed onto the screen, I felt their performance deep in my bones. Samoa, South Africa, The DRC, America, Australia, New Zealand. They showed the Korean public who they were, who they represent, and where they come from. And you know what? The Korean public felt it. It’s hard for people to vote for something they don’t truly understand and especially so in a place like Korea but despite that, Jam Republic got through to them. You are not giving them credit on this front. They got second place not by going with the grain and not by going against the grain, but staying true to themselves and that is amazing in and of itself. I’m not going to sit here and say this competition has been fair because it hasn’t. They way it’s been has been atrocious and it genuinely needs to be restructured. But you can make THIS argument, THIS criticism, without completely disparaging these teams hard work. Because by doing so, you aren’t giving Jam Republic, or BEBE, or anyone else in fact, credit for everything they were able to achieve.
I absolutely loved bebe’s perfomances. yup they’re very well synchronised and powerful. however their win is Bada’s win and no one can deny that. Also I was kinda disappointed with this season as I see that the whole point of the show is lost. this’s not «STREET woman fighter» anymore but more like a «best choreo fighters». anyway congratulations to everyone. (btw my personal faves were:🧡❤️💜. they’re very strong battlers. it would’ve been way more interesting to see more battles from them)
@@dlea-vq8eh I agree with them too this was definitely bada win she was center for most of their dances the choreos was mostly done by her and she directed the crew formation expressions by herself she had the most praise the other girls beside maybe lusher and tatter didn’t really stand out
Bada is a great leader. At first, she said that she wanted to showcase every one of her members; she wanted to show the world how talented they are. Aside from Latrice, Harimu, Sayaka, and Redlic Lusher also stand out in the Click Like MV. Even Kamel from We Dem Boyz SMF said that Lusher has such good expressions while dancing that it catches your attention. Tatter proves herself when they're doing the K-pop deathmatch mission. She said that it was their first performance as a crew, and she wanted to do better than anyone. She tried so hard to pull off that move and impressed the judges. Tatter did really lose to Yeni Choi; she even said that that was her first battle and she learned something about battle, which is why she wanted to battle with Yeni Choi again. Trix from Primekingz SMF said that Tatter catches his attention with her dancing and expressions in rookie performances. Kyma won against Amy. I agree that if Amy wasn't really tired from that battle, she could have won, but, hello, Kyma did a great job. Stop hating on her. You are not a professional battler. The ending credit performance also shows Kyma's power, energy, and love for dancing; some are impressed by the multiple masks she removed. Minah stands out in the K-pop deathmatch mission getting regonized because of her crazy expressions. Even in their global artist mission, Minah's being at the center is crazy and powerful. Cheche did improve a lot; she worked so hard to have good expressions while dancing and be powerful when performing. Monika said that Cheche and Kyma didn't do a bad job battling with the main dancers; she, along with the other crew, sensed that there was a lack of experience. Sowoen always tries so hard to be a responsible maknae, to be powerful when performing, and to work hard to improve herself at dancing. She wanted to be the best for her crew. Team Bebe did a great job showcasing their own colors and talents; they always try something new and face the consequences. Just like the other crew, Team Bebe deserves to be one of the finalists, so stop hating and discrediting their talents.
Bada became popular because of her talent; she just has this trendy dance style that everyone loves in this era. I agree that Mannequeen has the most jaw-dropping performance because of their wacking dance style. It is one of the strongest dance styles in history, but it is not very popular among other dancers nowadays because wacking is often used in dance battles but not in performances like this, so I think they deserve 4th place. I also agree with Jam that they should've won first place because of their last performance, but their dance style is not also popular, especially in Korea. They called their style "exotic dance style" because of its uniqueness and very foreign dance. You often see those dances in a specific place, but not in Korea. Even though they had a good performance, I think second place is enough. When it comes to Bebe, I think based on their last performance, they deserve first place. I don't think it is because of "Bada's popularity". Honestly speaking, I barely see Bada in the last performance because the other members have the same energy as her. These rankings are actually accurate but also predictable, just like you said, and I don't have any problems with that. Every crew deserves first place, but it depends on how they used their dance styles to become popular with the public since it is a show or a program. The only people who can acknowledge those high-quality dances or performances are professional dancers, not average people like us. We just look for something cooler than the quality itself.
It wasn’t because did her talent tho… she got trending in the first episode for being a hot “girls crush” when she was barely doing anything against Redy. She’s tall and pretty and doing a trendy choreo for arepa.
Huh are you sure?Do you even know MSnake or not?It's over popularity my friend not over performances and of course there is no global audience to vote that's why, if we talk popularity here I think Jam is more popular out of all crews!
@@chyllapla-on6480 I know that. We're talking about popularity in Korea. Korean people don't even know who Kirsten is; only the dancers know. I agree with you that Jam is more popular in general, but most of the votes are coming from Korean netizens, so what would you expect from that? Just don't hate Bada for everything because she just knows how to win people's hearts, and that's pretty hard to do when you're in Korea.
As much as I loved jam republic during the entire season, I do truly believe bebe had the best performance of the episode, their mask routine was so freaking good! I’m happy that if anyone won over jam, it would be bebe
@@likes7941 Omg where do i start ?! I will assume you know nothing about dance performances 13yold and just got broken hearted bcs ur fav didn't win. I have news for u you'll grow up and learn to appreciate it's okay You'll get there
Jam republics last piece was not very impactful at all. Most of the moves were too simple . There was nothing to point out. While bebe's 1st performance was simple , they managed to make impressive choreography in the masked one. The idea was very different. 1millions performance was good too but theres nothing impressive in mannequeens eventhough they have THE MOST talented members. I was really looking forward to mannequeens seeing how they choreographed the CREW mission Bebe deserves to be placed number one (no biasness cz i stan mannequeen) 1 million 2th rank and 3rd mannequeen I think Jam republic took the competition lightly because of how simple there dances where,, they showcase the same moves at every mission (no hate at all)
Bro what are you on 😭😭😭 the mask concept is so overdone, I'm not saying Bebe plagiarized, but she did not bring anything new to the mask dance anyway. There was so little dancing in that performance like its not even a good dance routine at the core, the high schoolers in Korea could choreographs better than that.
I feel like BeBe’s end credits was really good. It was visually stunning and showed their color. 1million’s global artist was 4th for me but that’s in a competition of stars. It was still good but I think it went Jam, Manequin, Bebe, 1million in global artist and then Bebe, Jam, Manequin, 1mil for the end credits with how they used the stage, style, and message. I voted for Jammie’s for the whole competition but I don’t think Bebe is a bad team. Especially when Korea is going to do what they do. 😅 if it was extra rigged 1million was the favorite to just dominate when the teams were announced but they didn’t get any extra special editing.
Got say tho, BEBE totally rocked their performances. I’m a jammie, they slayedddd but the best performance of the night was bebe’s… Mnet did do dirty on the girls, but performance wise bebe totally deserved the win and i think it’s kinda sad that people are invalidading them as if they were not good frecking dancers as all of the girlies from the show were One thing is to defend JAM, attacking BEBE as if it’s their fault and not the program’s is whole different story 😢
@amaz34 everyone especially toxic JR fans. Bunch of sore losers, discrediting all the amazing performances of Bebe cuz they can't accept that they deserved to win
Mnet seriously 😒 From the moment Tsubakill got eliminated I knew this show was rigged. Each group has individual personalities except for Bebe "it’s Bada and the other members" she carried that team alone and the others got no time to shine compared to other group members. It was such a shame. Jam & Mannequeen are my winners ❤
Did we watch the same show? Or u just watched ur favorit and ignored the rest? I see lusher, tatter, mina even kyma last night shine through the whole season. It was not just "bada and the other members. They gives their rival surprise with how well they works together as a group but also one by one, each members gives their talent a fair show.
Okay? So lets say "bada carried the team alone" and so?its not you who carry them if that's your though why cares,.. and fyi they are all shining every mission and complete their own role not bada alone, and also if you based on individuality sorry bebe might not really good in 1on1 battles but strategy and hard work carries them, and mission is not individuality but as a groups, they are strong as a group and that's make them win. 😎
Not OP throwing Bebe under the bus only to congratulate everyone at the end of the video 💀 Hypocrisy much? I support JR and i'm also quite upset (not to the point of giving backhanded compliments) that JR didn't win cos let's be real Mnet's a conniving snake. If Mnet wanted transparency, they should have just opened it up for global voting. Claiming to be fair by giving an 80% weightage of the grand total points to live voting is totally skewered. As i've mentioned in other videos, it should have been the judges who have 80% of the deciding factor. Audience WILL vote based on biasness. If anything, moving forward, SMF 2 &/or SWF 3 should adopt WOD's judging criteria and restrict the audience power to influence the vote.
BEBE deserves the trophy period. All of them are talented as other team too. You all won’t vote for jam republic too even their good if they’re not famous before joining the swf2. Their even more popular than bada but BEBE won because they show how equally good they are speacially last night.
No they won because all the major votes were CLOSED to the international audience. Bffr numbers dont lie. Jam republic had the highest numbers every challenge globally but the korean audience would never let them win and only voted korean. Bebe is good but theres a reason Jam is more known and getting more exposure globally. Next time keep your bias to yourself when trynna make an objective statement ✋🏽
Jam is popular internationally because they know how to give a great performance and are VERSATILE in all dance styles unlike many crews on the show. Even Bebe stuck with the same style throughout the whole show. Bebe is the most popular in Korea which is where live votes were restricted to. Global doesn't matter in this because global voting was not included in live audience votes. Let's be real and focus on the dancing aspect and not the use of props jam and Mannequeen did better than bebe. Bebe had to take the jabbawockeez concept to stand out in end credit but the goal was to showcase what makes your group you and do something no one else can do. The other crews could do the same performance but no one could do jams the way they do. If the masks weren't in play and if Bada wasn't leader bebe wouldn't have made it far
@@My94Zone ya'll act like BEBE isn't also popular internationally and online like did ya'll forget that they won the Chili viral dance challenge as well with JAM REPUBLIC coming in second. Average ARMY once again saying somebody copied their boys pls. So what nobody can use the mask concept anymore cause others did before? stop being a clown. Their perfomance was very much in the BEBE style, did you even watch the full show?. Yes it was very much jabbawockees inspired as a way to symbolize they're one singular unit/crew (which is why the jabbawockess used the masks for) since everyone kept saying its just Bada and the girls. Just say you're buthurt that your favs didn't win and stop disregarding others achievements, hard work and skills.
Nah fr the other bebe members needa kiss bada's feet cause she's the reason they won. At least with the other teams the other members shine individually but with bebe it's still just bada, no matter how hard they try. Jam gave this show performances they’ve never seen before. Plus I agree mannequeen keeps getting snubbed even though they perform better than 1mill.
You should not downgrade BEBE just to praise Jam Republic. BEBE DESERVE that win and it's not only because of BADA. Her teammates are equally good! Look at their synchronization and choreo! Everyone deserve their place.
Not bashing on Bebe but rather Mnet’s score rules. JR got a perfect score of 200 on the crew mission which makes up for only 20% of the scores while lost out on the voting which makes up for 80% of the score. Well duh, how are foreigners gonna live vote on something that’s only done through text?? 😅 And they call it a global competition
FRR!! Their end credits performance was so clean as well, the masks were even cooler cuz they used to make sure no one could tell who was bada, as some other crews criticised BEBE that they were just “bada and girls”, and their face covered means that they are all talented, not only one!
I disagree! BEBE should be at 4th placed based on their 2 remaining performance. They literally won just because of their popularity in korea. As you can see Jam Republic during the announcement of the winner, they already knew that BEBE will won. And Kirsten added on her speech, they didn't come to win but to show what an INTERNATIONAL crew is all about. To make it short, Jam got robbed!
I don't think so, bebe team showed up their own skills and a great performance as well not just bada but all members of bebe team they deserved in the top, we all aware that is a show but as we can see all their effort are amazing nothing to prove at all.
Se mofaron diciendo que SWF es un programa internacional cuando los votos siempre estaban al alcance de los coreanos. Si hubiera sido internacional como bien dijeron entonces era obvio que ese premio pertenecía a JR y no a BEBE. Además de que PARA MI, Mannequeen merecía el segundo lugar al ser un grupo fuerte tanto grupal como individualmente I had to say it, I'm sorry
잼리퍼블릭의 춤실력은 절대적으로 완벽하나 안무에 대한 창의력이 부족하다. 그들의 신체적 강점을 잘살려서 소름이 돋았던 적만 있지, 그이상의 무대를 보여주지 못했다. 참고로 해 한국팬들이 한국팀만 응원한다고 생각한다면 큰오산이다. 잼리퍼블릭은 국내투표수만으로도 마네퀸과 원밀리언을 이겼고 오히려 해외팬들 투표를 허용해주었다면 그들과 익숙한 잼리퍼블릭만 투표했을 것이다
@@atomiceve9871 “watch bebe fall” girl bebe is making idols fall with they dance challenges you really think somebody gaf about jam. Bebe locked and secured ready to perform at mama awards as we speak. Boohoo
Bada literally carried the whole entire group if we're talking about individual best dancer I'll choose Bada Lee any day but as group Bebe was heavily lacking but honestly what were we expecting from Mnet they are known for their heavily rigged shows.😂😂😂😂
@@8skzxstay are we watching the same show? have you seen their end credit performance where all of them are masked? bro is delulu HAHAHA. CONGRATS TO ALL CREWS1! AND BEBE FOR GETTING THEIR DESERVED PLACING!!
@@user-pj8dg2rr9d but wouldn’t you want your “winners” to at least be known enough for ppl to recognize them 😭 idk it just seems like bada is the sole reason for why they won
@@onikasqueendom8846 Oh don't worry they are recognized working with countless idols in the industry and more opportunities now that they won with shows CFs etc and their personnel SNS the beginning is Now not my winner or your winners every dancer on that show
@@onikasqueendom8846it says a lot about you. You didn't watch the show or focus on the dance if not you'll know that tatter saved Bebe during the kpop mission lusher and tatter really helped a lot in the mega crew mission and all the girls joined in choreographing their battle mission in fact bada wasn't even there fully for the first half and they really did well. If you were so horny that you focused too much on bada's hotness that's on you the Bebe girls did really well deal with it
i wanted jam republic to win so bad!! they truly put the work in. but the fact that they managed to get to 2nd place on a korean show is an accomplishment in itself.
After watching their newest/latest interview and how they have never practiced as a group and some never saw each other dance until this show its amazing how fast they gelled as a team I credit TRISTON amazing leadership and she was very caring to other dancers she wasnt much for the talking trash that makes show famous or all the drama she is true Pro
but the ending credit performance from bebe was actually so good creative and more enticing than others though. i was jam rep fan but honestly the ending credit stage from bebe sealed my thought theyre going win either first or second
Legit from the moment I saw them win the chilli plus battle performance challenge and ended up first during those scorings, I knew there was something sketch…. I agree on your scoring on MQ being 2nd, wouldnt be mad if they were first neither, then Jam, they 1st, 1M or bebe 3rd. Overall bebe win doesn’t seem deserved because as a group they were okay but individually it was heavily lacking, personally I feel like Mannequeen and Jam reaaalllyyy demonstrated sll of their members properly and they all shine throughout the show.
This is a group dance competition for Gods sake not an individual competition. They had the best teamwork has a group so what's all this about individual again.... Stop looking for excuses and just congratulate people that win so that when you win people will congratulate you too
My thoughts. Mannequeens showed their diversity here as a team where no one could have thought because of their Whacking forte. They are dancing literally dancing. Giving a justifiable performance where you can see them dancing. Use props to enhance their dancing moves not just use props to make dancing less visible. using of props should go together with their moves. Not to just AWE people with the props but made dancing less and less visible. Tsk.. tsk..
@@likes7941completely agree, mannequeen really did their job flawlessly. Waacking, krump, choreo, heel dance, song choice, samba+broadway, legendary props, you named it all
I'm dissapointed with this video. This comment section are a mess, filled by bitter and judgmental humans, blinded by their ego. To make their self better with demean others hard work with glee. I loves jam republic, loves all members. But i hate their so called "fans" here that throw so much hates just because yheir favorit didn't won. You guys that did that, need open your eyes that last night, bebe win fair and square with their performance with their last stage and over all works. U need to calm down and stop make the assumption based on your damned ego.
Queer baiting dance style? What’s wrong with you ppl lmfao. If you think she’s attractive that’s on you , she’s not gonna change the dance style she’s had for years just for y’all. Also Bada had a bf (not sure if they are still together) so y’all forcing the lesbian queen thing is a bit much.
Literally!! Bada is publicly dating a man! These ppl just love to project their sexuality unto others. Any woman with baggy clothes is “queer”. That’s why it’s important to go out into the real world but they stay locked up in their rooms
its disingenuous to claim Bada Lee "queer-baited" anyone. Bada has been dancing like this well before Street Woman Fighter. Your claim would suggest Bada changed her style to appeal to that audience, but I disagree. That doesn't invalidate your opinion of Bebe being undeserving, however, your argument regarding Bada's style is unsubstantiated.
I agree, i love bebe and I wanted them to either place first or second. After seeing their preformance I think manaqueen and jam republic had the stronger prefromance over Bebe (not to say they didnt do good) and actually gave the right vibes from the music they chose. Jam republic should of won followed manaqueen/bebe then 1million
@@asteriaaa_ i think jam stuck with afro beats and somehow their move not as sharp&clean as usual. mannequen use difficult technic are awesome but they always struggle with positioning. 1mil seems runningout of idea and look exhausted. Bebe ftw😂
@@asteriaaa_ there are 2 stage at the final mission. First stage JR and MQ has wow factor more than Bebe. 1 mil the last. But for final stage, bebe stage gives strong lasting performance that gives them their right to win.
@@akuhappy3246And they are exactly those who try to make themselves like the heroes and know everything. But in fact, they are idiots and do not know anything
Yup bebe definitely deserved the 1st place. And how tf is the rankings if it wasn't popularity and only talent. JAM REPUBLIC IS LITERALLY THE MOST F-ING POPULAR GROUP.
y'all call anything rigged for god sake overall their both amazing but seriously bebe took it home for the fact that they're good, race was probably played in this vote but still stop
BEBE is the second most popular crew globally after JR, so with that (popularity) + points, they clearly are now top 1 since JR doesn't have as much points as BEBE in missions despite the fact they're the most popular crew
It was already obvious from the beginning BEBE will win bcs they are extremly good at choreo and they know how to get the audience attention and everytime they get the freaking anticipation of everyone
Let's not forget every mission where in their practice or demo, they get voted least to win but after final performance they shock everyone and did win (yes all missions) + they never ranked last in everything, they never lost as well
They're really happy together. All the team have fun together, all fandom happy for bebe win. Except one, jam republic fandom still can't accept the reality. They don't believe all teams are great, all of them deserve to be the winner. They think the only great team is jam republic, and only jam republic need to be the winner. Poor jam republic members, they must be tired from giving non stop clarification because of their fans toxicity.
It's a reality competition show. It doesn't matter if it's by Mnet or any other producers. Shit is always rigged one way or another to favor drama, stories, and other entertainment value. I'm not sure why folks are so hung up on this idea this show actually determines who is the best.
imo Bebe deserve it. Well yeah Bada carrying Bebe, but other members are great too skill wise. Saying Bebe is mid and dont deserve the w means you just hatin and doesn't even watch or even understand 'dance'. And saying that the show rigged, bro if international fans can vote than it also rigged cuz yall be voting Jam, and other crews will be at disadvantage. And that ending credit mission showed that Bebe deserve the w, other crews just doing their usual thing or in other words it's decent. 1mil and Mannequeen ate? Well yeah, but cmon guys i seen them doing something like that since episode 1.
Support Jam and continue defending them but is it really fun to bash Bebe and discredit all their hardwork as if it were nothing? I can't refrain from being flabbergasted at all the types of ruthless comments I keep on seeing shaming Bebe and not giving value to the win that they did deserve. Audrey even had to post a story requesting the jammies to stop being so toxic because of all the hate towards Bada and bebe group. People who actually loved Bebe did notice other members and there were many moments where they all had a chance to shine and show their talent. I understand the frustration and yes the votes should've been international but that doesn't give the right to all of you, most not even professional dancers, to begin hate train against a group who equally worked hard for their win.
even if bada pulled with some votes it was a team effort! All the girls did amazing and bada helped and had members shine as individuals in diff stages. They had great energy and their performances and Choreo were never half assed. They deserved the win YAAAS. And if bada pulls any gender y yall mad abt it?
And the fact that Tsubakill got eliminated first is also outrageous. I was not surprised that they lost the battle to Wolflo but why TF did they end up in that position.
Agreed. When TSUBAKILL got eliminated, it felt like the competition was rigged. Considering the talent, it was strange to see TSUBAKILL leave the show before Deep N Dap.
@@castalan00s Totally, like the voting closed before the show was even aired (the Kpop mission ended in June, and the first episode aired in August). How can you compete for popularity when basically no opportunity was given to the audience to get to know the crew? And not to mention that most of TSUBAKILL's clips were cut out from the episodes (such as their battles were only released after they've been eliminated).
Adding to that, in the Kpop Mission, the leading crews with the most online voting all have famous Kpop choreographers (Redlic, Mina, Lia, Bada). It is reasonable to assume that the show is rigged as it basically set the underground and foreign crews up for failure.
And it was ridiculous that the online voting was worth 600/1000 points.
FUCKING REAL
this show promoted itself as a global competition and a global challenge and always catered to the global audience for streams and challenges, yet 80% of the score was from only korea while 20% for global. crazyy
Crazyyy
80% is by text mesaasing, that's why. Just like every other shows existing. Stop being a biased idiot, you foreign Koreaboo.
The fact that people are saying we make everything about race but they shut up or don’t comment when we mention this we aren’t calling anyone racist we’re just pointing out the fact that they never planned on letting jam republic win over a Korean group
heavy on CRAZY
still better than last year.. for smf finals it was 100% live text votes and they did not have any international crews
The only thing I'm fighting for is how the hell did mannequeen got the last place, they deserved atleast 2nd or 3rd place😭
Ugh I still had some hope for them to get 3rd because of the rising fame among Knetz and intl fans but ig popularity matters more 😒
EXACTLY EXACTLY mannequeen and jamre hard cary this mission imo
like global artist mission they ate lady gaga vibes
If Mannequeen won over JamRepublic, I would not complain.
스우파는 인기투표로 변질됬다😢😢 애초에 스우파의 순위는 그들의 실제 실력을 대변하지 못한다. 마네퀸은 처음부터 잘해왔지만 항상 인기투표에서 져서 고배를 마셔야했다😢😢 그러니 모두들 편하게 보면 좋을 것 같다. 모든 크루가 잘하는 것은 우리가 이미 알아주는 것만으로도 충분하다.
If this "International" show was legit and not rigged, BeBe should have been 3rd place, Mannequeen 2nd place and Jam Republic should have won.
The queerbaiting allegation for Bada is out of the line. It's her personality. She's boyish even before SWF and she has choreographed for a lot of male kpop groups because of her masculine dance style... It's not her fault that a lot of girls are thirsting over her altho her fans can be annoying at times
Lots of tubers actually had her girl crushing on Audery was sad more then just a couple
Yeah she is just cool as fuck leave her alone
Also, using the term “queerbait” on real people is so icky. There’s no such thing as queerbaiting IRL. Remember the last time people accused an actor of queerbaiting and essentially forced him to come out the closet? Yeah, let’s not fucking do that again.
@@parkchimmin7913 that's horrible! who's the actor?
@@hazelnutoutdoortv4917 Heartstopper’s Kit Connor. He was forced to come out as bi.
We all knew from the JUMP that MNET was going to choose a Korean crew... I honestly feel that MNET was not expecting JAM REPUBLIC to grow so popular not only in Korea but outside Korea! Their popularity skyrocketed since the 1st episode. The final is as expected! I am super proud though of JAM REPUBLIC and all JAMMIES everywhere! you stayed strong to the very end!! 💕💕💕💕💕
They cut off Tsubakill in an instant once they started to grow traction was evidence enough, they were afraid that they would become even popular. JR though, I think MNET miscalculated a lot and thought they would able to kick them out at least in the semis but the support for them was to big so they resorted to this.
스우파를 엠넷이 조작했다고 말하는 건 정신 승리일뿐, 해외팬들은 잼리퍼블릭이 차별당한다고 생각하는데 이것은 큰 착각이다. 잼리퍼블릭은 국내투표수로만으로도 원밀리안과 마네퀸을 이겼고 국내에서 큰 호평을 받고 있다. 하지만 해외팬들은 그들과 익숙한 해외그룹인 잼리퍼블릭만 응원하고 이것은 오히려 비정상적인 역차별을 일으킬 수 있다. 참고로 베베는 엠넷이 조작한 것이 아니라 한국의 여성팬들이 바다에게 반해 압도적인 인기를 가지고 있다. 이는 국내 대중들도 인기투표로 변질됬다며 비판하는 부분이고 해외팬들뿐만 아니라 국내팬들도 불만이 있다는 것을 인지해줬으면 좋겠다
true.. now i remember how they tried to evil edit the video clips of latrice .. they were trying to smear the good reputation of jam rep crew so that viewers would think of jam rep the negative way... but... it boomeranged on them.. coz the more they tried to manipulate the facts, the more we love jamrep...
They probably couldn't kick out JR easily. They're too popular globally. I don't think SWF would be too popular globally without JR on the team.
I kinda predicted JR wouldn't win 1st place, after all, winners usually do guesting in other shows.
When tsubakill was eliminated I already figured it's another mnet self proclaimed global show and already expected that JR are gonna crawl their way up to atleast be in the finals hanging on a very thin thread of support from global fans cause their votes means shit, just like most international performers in an mnet survival show. So JR being loved by Koreans enough to get them 2nd is already surprising. Ig Bebe winning was just a suprise to me cause my prediction was 1mil
This is why I absolutely loved season 1. It was not so predictable and every team gave a good fight and the deserving team placed first. But this time there was no thrill and seemed boring because I knew what the result would be
FR
True!
But the judges from season 1 is the worst and unfair. SWF 2 has the best judges, so..
Like literally the only plot twist I didn't see coming was tsuba kill getting eliminated first other than I already know what will happen on each mission
@@imeldamel9827 nope. Those judges gave the win to HOLYBANG and JUSTJERK and no one fighted about it cause it was deserved. Unlike this season
It was clear from the start they'd do this. Foreign group who looks overpowered, but the triumphant Koreans will beat them in a display of nationalism!
잼리퍼블릭의 춤실력은 절대적으로 완벽하나 안무에 대한 창의력이 부족하다. 그들의 신체적 강점을 잘살려서 소름이 돋았던 적만 있지, 그이상의 무대를 보여주지 못했다. 딥앤댑이랑 마네퀸이 보여준 팀합에 비하면 부족하다. 해외팬들은 잼리퍼블릭이 차별당한다고 생각하는데 이것은 큰 착각이다. 잼리퍼블릭은 국내투표수로만으로도 원밀리안과 마네퀸을 이겼고 국내에서 큰 호평을 받고 있다. 하지만 해외팬들은 그들과 익숙한 해외그룹인 잼리퍼블릭만 응원하고 이것은 오히려 비정상적인 역차별을 일으킬 수 있다. 마네퀸은 항상 최고의 모습을 보여주었지만 인기투표로 인해 항상 쓴 고배를 마셨다. 즉 스우파에서 순위는 그들의 실력을 대변하는 것이 아니라는 것을 인지하고 시청하면 편해진다.
Hmm disagree. Bebe may lack the dancing power that Jam Republic has ( significantly ) but many of their choreography are unique and enjoyable. Personally for me, JR's choreographies are great but they are a bit too sexy and "western-is" for my taste so kinda depends, do people prefer choreography creativity or dancing skills as their base in voting.
@@Jun_071 I disagree with you too. JR has not only dancing skills but charisma and stage presence. You look at Bebe, and your eyes go to Bada but when you look at JR ? You look at everyone not only Kristen.
As a group, JR definetly deserves to be no.1 objectively in this match but unlike OP who is ironically being racist themselves by thinking the majority choose Bebe simply for being Koreans, they forget that the choreography that are made be Bebe are more welcomed in general and Bada's is just that cool thus can be the reasons they choose them.
@@Jun_071you're saying all this when bada lee is the only one stands out in bebe. JR and mannequin has all stars
Open your eyes. All team gives their best. Last stage of bebe was a winner stage
JR not winning was predictable from the beginning tbh, and that’s just because the Mnet we know will never allow it. But Bebe finishing first did surprise me ngl - don’t get me wrong, with each passing week they did showcase their strengths and garner popularity quickly (Bada’s challenge alone brought enough interest to the crew to last them throughout the show imo). But to win against some of these other crews? Objectively, nah idts. I’m just glad this show gave us many great moments and that’s the most important.
just admit u didn't watch it, it's okay hun
@@twelfth1278nah I most definitely did dear. Your point is?
@@mrwateva123 on tiktok?
It didn't surprise me bebe won coz yea it's msnake
Of course it's MNET!
Honestly I liked both Bebe and Jam Republic so even if Jam Republic weren't chosen as winners, I'm happy for Bebe
Same mentality with me
No bebe dont deserve 1at place its Jam republic should be the 1st , second is manne queen , 3rd is bebe...
Yes trueee, bebe deserve that
@@marlonandres1312Stop being toxic, haven't you seen Audrey's story? Bebe have been consistent since day 1, they won first place in most missions and they were popular globally and in Korea. Jam Republic was satisfied with theirs but why are th fans being so toxic? Can't you just congratulate the winner?
@@lyn4977 im just saying the truth the facts im not being toxic and hello bebe is not as famous globally most are only in korea not like kirsten so stop saying they are globally famous not even close you want me to congratulate them well BEBE CONGRATS satisfied?
I was prepared not to be surprised when JAM didn't get first place, but then I was still surprised when they didn't get first place seeing how good their performance was and the individual dance abilities of the Jam members that they had, which were unique, strong and had their own character. This crew always gives something simple but can make something simple look powerful, that alone shows how good they are, there's no need to rely too much on props to cover their dances to make them look striking, their dances and expressions alone are enough to make people feel their energy, For some reason, I would be more satisfied if Manequeen were in first place because each of the members are great and don't just depend on the leader but they are able to work together for the team
Ur opinion is so lame.
THIS. First place should be Mannequeen, not Jam. I'm sorry. Even if Jam is slightly better at choreo, Mannequeen is on a whole different planet in battling. They are the most wellrounded crew in the entire franchise
@@myk-popper2960 nah, just at battling not as a crew.
@@ferwoodz You talk as if they haven't been putting on some of the best choreographed performances this season, all of which are voted as the best by actual professionals like many of the SMF alumni. Just Jerk the actual winners even unanimously agreed Mannequeen was the best performer in the finale.
If you are referring to teamwork, ALL 6 MEMBERS are strong characters but they all work amazingly well together and fully behind Funky Y as their leader. If egos were to clash in any crew, it would have been this one, but it didn't happen. They didnt have a single disagreement or argument among them. They are so proud of their crew they are continuing to remain a crew.
You know what, actually if this show was purely 100% judged by profesional judges since day 1( no global or audience vote) Lady Bounce or WolfLo could have stay in the final stage or even won this competition. That would be very authentic, no popularity and "street" the show is.
Anyways, the past has already passed. Whether it's rigged or not, I'm happy that Bebe won. I think they did great in every missions and maintain consistent results especially the scores from fight judges.
Agree. LB or WF will be in the finals if that is the case. Bebe deserved that win last night with their last stage. They proved their quality
Tsubakill too
Regardless, I'm so proud for all crews.Their final performances proved why they are finalists. The quality is already up there.
Great comment
true
Very true
y'all be saying you only know bada. how can y'all know the rest of the members if you're only focusing on your faves? If you are really watching the show, you'll eventually get to know them. We can't deny that BEBE is a rookie crew but let's be honest, all of the members dance very well. Their choreography and synchronization is top tier. Even other crews praise them for their clean choreo. Stop saying that they don't deserve to win. All the crews deserve to win as they did their best. Just please don't discredit the efforts they've put into.
ps. I love all of them
Thank you so much for this honest truth their talking as if we know every single member from every crew apart from Bebe. Tatter did such a good job in the kpop mission and the girls slayed the battle mission. Lusher and tatter even rose up to the occasion when bada was down due to the mega mission
That what i think too. I know every names in all group other than leaders that did great each episode. For bebe case, lusher, tatter and mina stand out. But in this final stage, they are all served, with kyma makes lots of surprise. I'm amazed by their assumption in this comment section. So toxic
I'M SORRY BUT IF YOU WATCH THE WHOLE SHOW YOU WILL KNOW THAT OTHER CREW WORK HARDER THAN THEM. THEY EVEN LOSE WEIGHT BECAUSE THEY PUT ALL THE EFFORTS TO WIN EVERY BATTLE AND MISSION. I DON'T SEE THOSE KIDS WORK HARD BECAUSE THEY DEPEND BADA WHO DO IT ALL, THEY EVEN DIDN'T HAVE DETERMINATION TO GO BATTLE ON THEIR OWN AND PROVE THEMSELVES. BECAUSE THEY ALWAYS HIDE BEHIND BADA
@@akuhappy3246what episode did tater, lusher, mina stand out? Because as far as I remember they never do individual battle. LMAO LET'S BE REAL HERE. IF THEY DO SOLO BATTLE THEY WILL ALL IMMEDIATELY LOST.
@@lulushintaadinda222 well Mr or miss realist Bebe won six of their battles and the six weren't won by only bada so open your eyes or better yet your brain so you can analyse things when tsubakill put that acrobatic move in the kpop mission it's also bada that worked so hard to do that flip right? If you want to hate be direct
I think this competition should be judged by dancers and not by non dancers. Non dancers only vote for who they like. But this is a dance competition. Not a idol competition. We dont go by who is more famous. But by who is a better dancer. Who put up better dance performance. Hello mnet?!
yeah, and even the judges agreed with bebe as well. SO.
i agree - the judges should have a much higher vote count because they know the technicalities. This years panel of judges was a huge improvement though, with Monika and Mike Song being professional and vet dancers, shownu, despite being an idol dancer, i think was just to bring people in. but its leagues better than season 1s judges 💀
@@fiolioco1523 and thier should be more judge
Those focused on battles should be equal to those focused on choreo
Is it so unbelievable that people have different opinions than you so now you have to cope and say 'they just dont know they are just the audience'
I also think it was manipulated, since a few chapters ago it was obvious that BEBE was going to win. Not allowing the international public to vote ensured that BEBE would win, if the vote had been worldwide, JAM would win.
잼리퍼블릭의 춤실력은 절대적으로 완벽하나 안무에 대한 창의력이 부족하다. 그들의 신체적 강점을 잘살려서 소름이 돋았던 적만 있지, 그이상의 무대를 보여주지 못했다. 그들은 항상 5명이 동시에 같은 춤을 춘다. 즉 춤 구조의 다양성이 부족하다. 해외팬들은 잼리퍼블릭이 차별당한다고 생각하는데 이것은 큰 착각이다. 잼리퍼블릭은 국내투표수로만으로도 원밀리안과 마네퀸을 이겼고 국내에서 큰 호평을 받고 있다. 하지만 해외팬들은 그들과 익숙한 해외그룹인 잼리퍼블릭만 응원하고 이것은 오히려 비정상적인 역차별을 일으킬 수 있다. 참고로 베베는 엠넷이 조작한 것이 아니라 한국의 여성팬들이 바다에게 반해 압도적인 인기를 가지고 있다. 이는 국내 대중들도 인기투표로 변질됬다며 비판하는 부분이고 해외팬들뿐만 아니라 국내팬들도 불만이 있다는 것을 인지해줬으면 좋겠다
JamRe got robbed but also Manequeen and 1 Million. Broooo during ending Credit Mission alongside with Jamre, 1 million ate too and also in the global one Manequeen ate too. 😢😢😢
You should not downgrade BEBE just to praise others honey. BEBE DESERVE the win. Look at their synchronization and choreo!
Dancing in a team requires a good clean look movement and they have that. Others team have different angle and makes it look a bit messy but BEBE not. That's why a lot of people vote for them.
EVEN all the dancers since day 1 of the show they praise BEBE for clean choreo and synchronization.
So, everyone deserve their place.
@@rns6828 yeah win or lose they deserve all the recognition. ♥️♥️♥️
sue mnet then
Dude I get your point, but to discredit the hard work that Bebe also put through in the competition? They were mostly ranked “To be eliminated” and were even treated as underdogs in the first episode, but they never ranked lower than Top 5. To make it seem like they did not deserve the win as well is just crazy. Maybe you should just diss and throw hate at Mnet’s system (cuz it is really fcked up), but please don’t do it to the crews. They all deserve to win. 😢
Do note that all the crews and staff of the show had dinner together to celebrate. The hell’s wrong with Team Bebe bringing home the trophy and Bada going to her boyfriend? That’s just sad 😞
EXACTLY!!
Agree! The creator of this video is just bitter and probably been crying since the show ended. I pity this persons life. The way this person discredits other people's work is so disgusting. I bet this person don't have any talent but to clout chase. Mind you, Kirsten of Jam Republic highly speaks of Bada Lee and her team so who are you again??? a wokey keyboard warrior! Ha! At the end of the day, they are all winners! We'd like to celebrate that peacefully so yeah.. enjoy your life!
@@crztah3403 no worries she's not going very far in life with her disgusting personality anyways
So true I don't get it why she's looking down on bebe like how and she also thinks that bebe is not good enough without bada but they proved them wrong when they performed only with Bada joining later for only a few seconds
all the “viewers” discrediting bebe while the crews who took part are actually happy for bebe’s win 😂
Yeah, and i amazed by the "viewer" with close minded tendency in this comment section. Lots of peoples that likes to demeaning others here. Shame on them.
well.. even if they weren’t why would they show it? knetz are ruthless, they don’t really have a choice
Coz they have to, controversy will rise if they did not and for sure there's at least a slight jealousy coz all of them are aiming for the 1st
@@zunnigo9748 they told u that mate?
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ion think bada queer baited tho? that’s just her style, she pulls of dancing in a feminine AND masculine way, it’s just based on how we interpret it . she could dance masculine and be straight .. ! ( correct me if im wrong : )
because god forbids women dance in a masculine way. these people can't be anymore ridiculous.
let bada dance the way she wants.
FR!!! they just call anything queerbaiting atp without knowing its true meaning 😢
SHE DOES!!! She said it in an interview recently that she dances like that purposely… to get girls attention!!!
@@adannandubisi2342 Source?
@@bonvoyage4212 it’s in an interview she had with a hairdresser on CZcams
Jam republic did deserve 1st place. You said it was a popularity concert and you’re right but jam republic was just as popular. It has to do with popularity and race.
Mhm not really not when especially for their last performances votes were only open for people with korean phone numbers and not international votes. So yes still rigged
Internationally jam republic is actually more popular based on their previous international votes/streams
fr but ppl will call you delusional and toxic for saying that 🤣🤣
Jam made a show and did not compete on their final performance, don't you think? This a competition not a show. Try comparing their moves and variations to the final performances on the other 3. Mannequeen even showed a good fight than Jam, I believe so.
@@liezlsabulao3726If we are all being honest Bebe gave a good performance for both during the finals.
people saying that only bada stood out in bebe and that she is the sole reason they won and discrediting other members clearly did not watch the whole show and only focused on their faves so they can't stop being biased
Yeah, what do you expect with this kind of peoples that filled this comment section. Bunch of close minded peoples with tendency to demean others works to make their favorit and their ego bigger
THIS
I agree. They didn't even consider the ranking in the previous missions. Jam is good and I like them too but they never really ranked first place in the overall score.
I’m gonna be honest I watched the show and the only members names I can remember are lusher and tatter aside from BADA the others had nothing like the other crews like capri or rena is around their age yet is so much better
@@Abi-vz5hr So name me the names of every member of all the crews, lol u clown.
Not really sure if it was rigged or not but as the episodes progressed it became more evident that Bebe was gonna win, and if not Bebe then 1M. I really had no hopes for JR or even for that matter any other crew to win because how the voting system was given weightage (more weight to on site votes and less to judges' votes and the public online votes) it was very evident that the group which was more popular amongst Korean audience would win and you cannot argue that somehow Bebe and 1M were THE MOST popular amongst Knetz. I think it was all a popularity amongst the locals at the end above anything else. So it wasn't really rigged but rather FLAWED to the core. You call it global and literally give global audience 20% of literally ALL the efforts they put for last 2-3 months or so
Nah it was rigged from the start. They never intended to let a foreign crew win which is why they set the voting up the way they did. How you gonna make an homogenous audiences vote count more than professionals who actually dance for a living and then not even allow GLOBAL voting for an INTERATIONAL show? Thats not flowed, thats a set up.
Thank you yes it’s FLAWED
I have the same problem when ppl say they riggedly kicked out tsubakill
Like it might be a shame but it’s fair & square
Thief popularity came late they had to face wolfhound in battle
Wolf lol ate them up
@@rayanyuvis2919 The voting system was extremely problematic in TSUBAKILL's case. I personally don't have problems with public voting as it is a TV show, after all. BUT it was not okay that the voting closed before the show was even aired (the mission ended in June and the first episode aired in August). How can you compete for popularity when basically no opportunity was given to the audience to get to know the crew? And not to mention that most of TSUBAKILL's clips were cut out from the episodes (such as their battles were only released after they've been eliminated).
More so, in the Kpop Mission, the leading crews with most online voting all have famous Kpop choreographers (Redlic, Mina, Lia, Bada). Therefore, it is reasonable to assume that the show is somewhat rigged as it basically set the underground crews and foreign crews up for failure considering the online voting worth 600/1000.
You can voice out your opinion, but don't discredit what bebe is capable of. They did all they can to win the competition. All of them. And I think they deserveed it
Only by vote in korean...
The Korean only votes is why they won. Don’t be slow.
They are just racist at this point. They called korean racist, but they just did the same damn thing
JR got a perfect score of 200 on the crew mission which makes up for only 20% of the scores while lost out on the voting which makes up for 80% of the score. Well duh, how are foreigners gonna live vote on something that’s only done through text?? 😅
Anyway Jam Republic deserved to win.
people who comment out of spite saying bebe didn't deserve to win never really watched the entirety of the show.
honestly all the groups that made it to the finals deserved to win. who are you to say they didn't, the actual dancers in that show, dancers who knows things about actual dance, knew how hard everyone had danced, had practice. the audience only sees what mnet wants to show, and y'all fall for it every single time it's actually embarrassing. even old crews that participated in swf and smf had said if only people who criticizes them would see how hard they pulled through technically and literally.
"bada and friends" BS is honestly so tired now, if you actually really watched the show you could see how all the members are determined to show they can reach a professional level, they're her students but they improved a lot, even their competitors had acknowledged it.
also JR being a foreign group and still came out 2nd in a korean based show is actually pretty impressive, they gained a lot of korean fans and that was evident from the results. "they never had a chance in winning" is actually such an insult to JR and their efforts in the show. shameful fans will always keep talking, embarrassing.
but yeah, show is rigged for selling the idea of STREET dance but instead we got KPOP BS.
if anyone's to blame it's mnet and toxic idiotic fans
i wouldn't watch the show bc mnet, but i wanted to see my girls from wolf lo so i had too.
these people watched the show on tiktok lmaooo no wonder their brains are like this.
audrey lane even had to give a statement they are indeed so embarrassing. especially for this person who had to make a whole video about it too
I definitely agree. BEBE have done nothing but simply participate and work hard just like the other crews. To discredit their effort and continue to call them "Baba & friends" is simply disrespectful.
Every crew participated and did their very best, none of them chose where they ended up. People need to criticize Mnet instead of the contestants.
bebe definitely deserve this!! ❤❤
Everyone has an opinion, however, the rules of the show made it so that BEBE would win. I watched every episode and I think 1MM was better than BEBE and that JR was better than them all (my opinion)...which is why they have been dancing with the hotest global K-Pop artist right now...Big Hit/Hybe knew who to cast for their videos with Jungkook...Jam Republic!
People saying bebe is because of badas popularity if it was so JR also wouldn’t be this popular if it wasn’t KIRSTEN Or that ROYAL FAMILY ??
Yuhuuu
That is why i called them a bunch of "hypocrites"
um no because each member of JR shone on their own at some point and have their own personal style. no one except their fans know BEBE’s members because none of them had enough experience or personal style to be able to stand out properly
@@excel9567did you even watch the show? Ig you just weren’t paying attention because it wasn’t what you were looking for. Members like Lusher, Tatter, Mina and Kyma had great moments that showed their styles. Every member in a crew doesn’t need a super different style, BEBE has great teamwork and cleaness because of how much their similar styles complemented each other.
Gurl all you do is hate, I swear whatever the topic is you never miss to hate. I’m honestly impressed by how keen you are on it
EXACTLY FFS literally most of the hate videos that appear on my fyp is posted by her
is she wrong though?
yes? tf😭 saying bada queerbaits is a wild statement as if she ain’t been doin this
@@phaceiid Yes
I think Bebe won this show due to their talent and every member of Bebe got the opportunity to show them that they were not the worst dancers as the other team said before..so this was worth it 😒 while Bebe's style of dancing is stronger and cleaner than another group...so of course, after winning the competition we all become happier so did bada and there was no restriction to have fun with your boyfriend after you got a great achievement 🙏.
Oop no lies detected in this video.
Honestly, it is really frustrating to see times and times again Mnet clear favoritism for their Korean talents. Like what’s the point in an international competition if it’s never the international competitors winning ?! Make it make sense.
And you know, I find it so weird. We’re not in 2010, when K-pop and Korean culture were as a whole, way more known in Asia and not really in the west (except groups like Super Junior, Bigbang, Girls Generation, 2ne1 and 4minute). Korean culture as a whole has basically gone mainstream, kinda like Japanese culture in the 1990s. If Mnet and the entertainment industry overall were to show their openness and appreciation, I’m sure they would be seen in a way more positive light…
Jam Republic and Mannequeens were definitely on top of the competition. So happy to see many fans giving both groups their flowers.
Mannequeen great at technique but it less neat,
jam are neat but the sound they use are less popular among audience.
1mil seems like running out of ideas.
Bebe deserve to win they choose right song to hyped the crowd, eventho the mask are not new idea ( jabawokeez known for that) it bring the attention with contrast color. their move are neat too.
잼리퍼블릭의 춤실력은 절대적으로 완벽하나 안무에 대한 창의력이 부족하다. 그들의 신체적 강점을 잘살려서 소름이 돋았던 적만 있지, 그이상의 무대를 보여주지 못했다. 딥앤댑이랑 마네퀸이 보여준 팀합에 비하면 부족하다. 해외팬들은 잼리퍼블릭이 차별당한다고 생각하는데 이것은 큰 착각이다. 잼리퍼블릭은 국내투표수로만으로도 원밀리안과 마네퀸을 이겼고 국내에서 큰 호평을 받고 있다. 하지만 해외팬들은 그들과 익숙한 해외그룹인 잼리퍼블릭만 응원하고 이것은 오히려 비정상적인 역차별을 일으킬 수 있다. 마네퀸은 항상 최고의 모습을 보여주었지만 인기투표로 인해 항상 쓴 고배를 마셨다. 즉 스우파에서 순위는 그들의 실력을 대변하는 것이 아니라는 것을 인지하고 시청하면 편해진다.
@@Jun_071 i think jam didn't lacked creativity, they always put something new and fresh to the table every now and then, they made this choreo for only three days while other crews has 2 weeks in planning and making this. The choreo they did really suit Beyonce's style, it is not overpowering to the face but the whole stuff was captivating and strong, even in the first part i was left agape i thought Beyoncé will make a cameo somehow.
@@Jun_071JamRe had impactful and unforgettable performances. Since episode 1. They are trending worldwide and most of the dancers wanted to cover their performances in every mission. Jam Republic has less time to create choreographies because they are not always in Korea. During Supa2 the members were not in korea for the whole time. They were busy on their own schedules while on the show. 😂😂 And even tho they had less time to practice, They always put delicious meal in the plate to taste and savour. ❤❤❤❤
@@alyanamaefernandez5073 and that is not the reason to mock other crews just for your ego to boost your favorit.
Bebe's performance was fire!!!! I'm not Korean but for me, Bebe deserved First Place!!!!!!!!!
that's exactly what I thought like it lowkey feels disrespectful to say their win was rigged, i absolutely love jam republic but bebe genuinely deserve it just as much and i'm a western fan too like
Omg yeah 🙌🏻🙌🏻
@@nanasjaemsI think that the real problem there is not about who won but rather that mnet promoted it to be an international program when international votes during the final counted less then the korean one, so tbh without knowing the real numbers of international votes its fair to say that till a certain extent the show was rigged, we know that Koreans do not like to lose and it was obvious since the start that jam was not going to win
Bada isnt queerbaiting thats just her dance style. She danced like that wayyyy before the show and just has a masculine energy to her that she cant help and shouldnt change just because women have crushes on her??? Be fr. I think bebe is a really good group I'm not mad they won buttttttt I think the other teams are better overall and deserved to win. I honestly think Mannequenn should have won over Jam because they were absolutely amazing in their last performances. Im not mad Bebe won but it is a popularity game. It kinda confirms how I think WayB wouldve won if they made it further into the show.
Bebe did good idk what y’all on but they made me have goosebumps and they made me cry so stop putting them down 😭
they should've let the top 2 have a freestyle battle and let the judges do their job
so many bash that I read I just want to say that bebe deserve it,all of them do there best we can see bada do her best to be a good performer and she teach her teamates to improve all the coaches knew about it don't judge anyone in that show if you all don't know how much they sacrifice for that.
The amount of JR TOXIC FANS HERE ARE INSANE BROOO
Bunch of hypocrites
Does anyone even know the names of all the Bebe members, let alone anyone other than Bada? Like be so fr. She stood out all on her own but as a whole, Jam is more well rounded and memorable. Each have their own style but can blend and come together flawlessly
Exactly.. I remember all the names of TSUBAKILL who are not popular at first ,as well as the other groups except from bebe
Exactly my point in my other comments. They don't have distinct moves in terms of individuality. Unlike other groups. id rather choose tsubakill than the rest of the members of Bebe. Only Bada stands out and that tater girl who did the tsubakill dancestep.
Kyma, Minah, Cheche,Tatter, Lusher, and Soweon are the other members
Lusher
Tatter
Kyma
Sooweon
Cheche
Minah
Bada
This is a dance CREW competition, being a great dancer on your own is not the point here. Bebe as a whole were freaking great powerful and clean.
yall really listening to the words of someone who put together the phrase “queer baiting dance style” just bcs they mad their faves did not win, scrutinising their dancing (formations, complexity, dynamics) would’ve been justifiable smh
I personally think that this ranking was pretty fair. As a jam republic fan I still think that Bebe deserved the win. They were more consistent yet showed something new as well. They also did really well during the challenges.
this is merely my personal response to your personal thought, no hate
I don't think bebe were consistent, they were only at the top for like last 2 ep. Jam republic were consistent, never at the bottom always in the top 3
@@tania_0017ok? Bebe literally owned the final ep their choreography is top notch. JR were repetitive with the same moves again and again, that’s what they need to work on before coming to a show like this. 1M don’t have strong dancers par probably like 2 and the rest of the crews again did not dance like a group but danced as if it’s individually their time to shine which doesn’t work in a competition like this. Honestly JR joining has bought in a wave of horrible fans just glad they don’t get to experience happiness.
@@tania_0017Me when I lie
@@megan5529 ok? Bada's choreo was not revolutionary... bada did what she's been doing nothing new on the table
We know JR deserves better but let’s not just discredit Bebes hard work and talent ?? They have been till here because of their talent not just because of badas popularity..it’s you toxic haters that can’t see other members and just kept on going Bada and her friends since day 1
yeah like ofc they can't see other members of bebe because they're only focusing on their faves
Their brain cells are frayed because of their hatred
Yeah this video should banned it's just create conflict and hype 😏 Bebe is the winner, they work with it and that's it, comments are self proclaimed judge why don't they go to korea and be the swf judge..hehe
bruh wdym queer baiting,u should stop with some stuff that u say like lol
YES MANNEQUEEN DESERVES HIGHER SPOTS TT
A lot of you are being unfair to BEBE
And quite frankly a lot of you are being unfair to Jam Republic
Do you know how hard it is for a foreign team to win let alone place 2nd?
Yes, it was never going to be truly fair because Koreans will always vote for a Korean team but despite that, and despite being in 3rd place at the start of this, they clawed their way up.
For me, Jam Republic should have won. Their end credit dance made me emotional. As an Ghanaian who was born in American, I was almost in tears. But despite that, I can also see why BEBE won. The intensity of their dance, I could understand it as soon as I heard what their end credit song was.
Do you think if BEBE only truly had Bada as a good dancer, they would’ve been able to advance the way they did? Hell no. A lot of the Korean leaders are basically as well known to the Korean public as Kristen is to the International public. But were they voted through? No. BEBE is a solid as hell group. Bada doesn’t carry them, they all can match each other’s energy and intensity perfectly. In this whole competition, the only other GROUP that could match their energy, intensity and movements to this degree is LadyBounce. I don’t say Jam Republic because even though they can match their energy and intensity to such a degree, their movements still have a lot of individuality. Not saying this is a bad thing but it’s more so different strengths different charms.
If BEBE wasn’t so solid of a group, if they genuinely didn’t have the talent, they wouldn’t have made it to the finals.
Now going back to Jam Republic and why I feel your not being fair to them.
This is a Korean competition. Despite the global part they attached, it is a Korean Competition with Korean voters.
This was never going to be fair for foreign teams because of how Korea is. It isn’t BEBE or any other teams fault, the fault lies with the way Korean Society is and how this show was structured.
Jam Republic knew that going in. In their final performances, they could’ve pandered to the Korean audience to try and get more votes, but they didn’t.
They stayed true to themselves and their style. To the point where their last performance was a homage to who they are and where they come from. When all those flags flashed onto the screen, I felt their performance deep in my bones. Samoa, South Africa, The DRC, America, Australia, New Zealand. They showed the Korean public who they were, who they represent, and where they come from. And you know what? The Korean public felt it. It’s hard for people to vote for something they don’t truly understand and especially so in a place like Korea but despite that, Jam Republic got through to them. You are not giving them credit on this front. They got second place not by going with the grain and not by going against the grain, but staying true to themselves and that is amazing in and of itself.
I’m not going to sit here and say this competition has been fair because it hasn’t. They way it’s been has been atrocious and it genuinely needs to be restructured. But you can make THIS argument, THIS criticism, without completely disparaging these teams hard work. Because by doing so, you aren’t giving Jam Republic, or BEBE, or anyone else in fact, credit for everything they were able to achieve.
Preach. Your comment is beautiful. Hope to see more people likes you in this comment section
THANK YOU
THISSS!!!!!
Did you don't feel embarrassed after call out by audrey lane?
I absolutely loved bebe’s perfomances. yup they’re very well synchronised and powerful. however their win is Bada’s win and no one can deny that.
Also I was kinda disappointed with this season as I see that the whole point of the show is lost. this’s not «STREET woman fighter» anymore but more like a «best choreo fighters». anyway congratulations to everyone. (btw my personal faves were:🧡❤️💜. they’re very strong battlers. it would’ve been way more interesting to see more battles from them)
this!!! the show gave so much advantage to choreographers 😭
i'll deny it cause the whole team deserved the win and bada being hot doesn't make her less talented or a bad leader. two things can be truth at once
@@dlea-vq8eh I agree with them too this was definitely bada win she was center for most of their dances the choreos was mostly done by her and she directed the crew formation expressions by herself she had the most praise the other girls beside maybe lusher and tatter didn’t really stand out
so true bestie!!! choreography woman fighters (also dare they call the choreographer's style "hip hop" like sis...)
Bada is a great leader. At first, she said that she wanted to showcase every one of her members; she wanted to show the world how talented they are. Aside from Latrice, Harimu, Sayaka, and Redlic Lusher also stand out in the Click Like MV. Even Kamel from We Dem Boyz SMF said that Lusher has such good expressions while dancing that it catches your attention. Tatter proves herself when they're doing the K-pop deathmatch mission. She said that it was their first performance as a crew, and she wanted to do better than anyone. She tried so hard to pull off that move and impressed the judges. Tatter did really lose to Yeni Choi; she even said that that was her first battle and she learned something about battle, which is why she wanted to battle with Yeni Choi again. Trix from Primekingz SMF said that Tatter catches his attention with her dancing and expressions in rookie performances. Kyma won against Amy. I agree that if Amy wasn't really tired from that battle, she could have won, but, hello, Kyma did a great job. Stop hating on her. You are not a professional battler. The ending credit performance also shows Kyma's power, energy, and love for dancing; some are impressed by the multiple masks she removed. Minah stands out in the K-pop deathmatch mission getting regonized because of her crazy expressions. Even in their global artist mission, Minah's being at the center is crazy and powerful. Cheche did improve a lot; she worked so hard to have good expressions while dancing and be powerful when performing. Monika said that Cheche and Kyma didn't do a bad job battling with the main dancers; she, along with the other crew, sensed that there was a lack of experience. Sowoen always tries so hard to be a responsible maknae, to be powerful when performing, and to work hard to improve herself at dancing. She wanted to be the best for her crew. Team Bebe did a great job showcasing their own colors and talents; they always try something new and face the consequences. Just like the other crew, Team Bebe deserves to be one of the finalists, so stop hating and discrediting their talents.
Bada isn't queerbaiting man 😭its public knowledge that she has a boyfriend. can't blame her for being attractive.
This OP just ridicolous
wait she has a boyfriend
also fr cuz like I don’t think she is queer baiting too, it’s just her style
@@katiikat he's called Howl and he's also a dancer
@@sakuravelvetOhh, did she say anything about dating him tho?
Bada became popular because of her talent; she just has this trendy dance style that everyone loves in this era. I agree that Mannequeen has the most jaw-dropping performance because of their wacking dance style. It is one of the strongest dance styles in history, but it is not very popular among other dancers nowadays because wacking is often used in dance battles but not in performances like this, so I think they deserve 4th place. I also agree with Jam that they should've won first place because of their last performance, but their dance style is not also popular, especially in Korea. They called their style "exotic dance style" because of its uniqueness and very foreign dance. You often see those dances in a specific place, but not in Korea. Even though they had a good performance, I think second place is enough. When it comes to Bebe, I think based on their last performance, they deserve first place. I don't think it is because of "Bada's popularity". Honestly speaking, I barely see Bada in the last performance because the other members have the same energy as her. These rankings are actually accurate but also predictable, just like you said, and I don't have any problems with that. Every crew deserves first place, but it depends on how they used their dance styles to become popular with the public since it is a show or a program. The only people who can acknowledge those high-quality dances or performances are professional dancers, not average people like us. We just look for something cooler than the quality itself.
It wasn’t because did her talent tho… she got trending in the first episode for being a hot “girls crush” when she was barely doing anything against Redy. She’s tall and pretty and doing a trendy choreo for arepa.
@@Slimylady that's what you called Charisma
@@avinssi_ it’s not, it’s koreaboos calling her hot and saying stuff like “she’s for the girls” even tho she’s dating a boy.
Huh are you sure?Do you even know MSnake or not?It's over popularity my friend not over performances and of course there is no global audience to vote that's why, if we talk popularity here I think Jam is more popular out of all crews!
@@chyllapla-on6480 I know that. We're talking about popularity in Korea. Korean people don't even know who Kirsten is; only the dancers know. I agree with you that Jam is more popular in general, but most of the votes are coming from Korean netizens, so what would you expect from that? Just don't hate Bada for everything because she just knows how to win people's hearts, and that's pretty hard to do when you're in Korea.
Ithink bebe deserve it. their final performance is amazing
Audrey has posted in her instagram stories that this type of content is toxic and unpleasant for JR
Bebe have best performance no doubt
the performance of bebe in last mission is the best, so i know they can win.
Did you even watch bebe's performance? They deserve it periodt.
As much as I loved jam republic during the entire season, I do truly believe bebe had the best performance of the episode, their mask routine was so freaking good! I’m happy that if anyone won over jam, it would be bebe
We're looking for dancing here. In that mask perf. They didnt dance at all. It has less dancing compared to the others.
So due to the coolness of the masks you choose bebe. not both dances but the last dance and cause of how cool the masks moved?
@@likes7941 Omg where do i start ?! I will assume you know nothing about dance performances 13yold and just got broken hearted bcs ur fav didn't win. I have news for u you'll grow up and learn to appreciate it's okay You'll get there
Jam republics last piece was not very impactful at all. Most of the moves were too simple . There was nothing to point out.
While bebe's 1st performance was simple , they managed to make impressive choreography in the masked one. The idea was very different.
1millions performance was good too but theres nothing impressive in mannequeens eventhough they have THE MOST talented members. I was really looking forward to mannequeens seeing how they choreographed the CREW mission
Bebe deserves to be placed number one (no biasness cz i stan mannequeen)
1 million 2th rank and 3rd mannequeen
I think Jam republic took the competition lightly because of how simple there dances where,, they showcase the same moves at every mission (no hate at all)
Bro what are you on 😭😭😭 the mask concept is so overdone, I'm not saying Bebe plagiarized, but she did not bring anything new to the mask dance anyway. There was so little dancing in that performance like its not even a good dance routine at the core, the high schoolers in Korea could choreographs better than that.
What the hell- just let BeBe win cus they deserved it, it’s not like Bebe didn’t deserve it, they did.
I feel like BeBe’s end credits was really good. It was visually stunning and showed their color. 1million’s global artist was 4th for me but that’s in a competition of stars. It was still good but I think it went Jam, Manequin, Bebe, 1million in global artist and then Bebe, Jam, Manequin, 1mil for the end credits with how they used the stage, style, and message. I voted for Jammie’s for the whole competition but I don’t think Bebe is a bad team. Especially when Korea is going to do what they do. 😅 if it was extra rigged 1million was the favorite to just dominate when the teams were announced but they didn’t get any extra special editing.
Please don't disrespect bebe .I know all of them have work hard.
Got say tho, BEBE totally rocked their performances. I’m a jammie, they slayedddd but the best performance of the night was bebe’s…
Mnet did do dirty on the girls, but performance wise bebe totally deserved the win and i think it’s kinda sad that people are invalidading them as if they were not good frecking dancers as all of the girlies from the show were
One thing is to defend JAM, attacking BEBE as if it’s their fault and not the program’s is whole different story 😢
LOUDER
Right!? They deserve that win, no one can change my mind
Argue with the wall
Who is attacking BEBE
@amaz34 everyone especially toxic JR fans. Bunch of sore losers, discrediting all the amazing performances of Bebe cuz they can't accept that they deserved to win
EXACTLY WHY ARE PPL HATING BEBE LIKE GIRLIES ITS MNET DOING ALL OF THE TEAMS DIRTY
Mnet seriously 😒 From the moment Tsubakill got eliminated I knew this show was rigged. Each group has individual personalities except for Bebe "it’s Bada and the other members" she carried that team alone and the others got no time to shine compared to other group members. It was such a shame. Jam & Mannequeen are my winners ❤
Did we watch the same show? Or u just watched ur favorit and ignored the rest? I see lusher, tatter, mina even kyma last night shine through the whole season. It was not just "bada and the other members. They gives their rival surprise with how well they works together as a group but also one by one, each members gives their talent a fair show.
Sorry to say but Bebe are really good team their team effort is the best.
@@akuhappy3246 u're soo pressed lmaoo answering almost every comment
Okay? So lets say "bada carried the team alone" and so?its not you who carry them if that's your though why cares,.. and fyi they are all shining every mission and complete their own role not bada alone, and also if you based on individuality sorry bebe might not really good in 1on1 battles but strategy and hard work carries them, and mission is not individuality but as a groups, they are strong as a group and that's make them win. 😎
Damn... Bada carried the whole team?! Wow then she must've actually been really that good and even beat Jam Republic then? 🤭
Not OP throwing Bebe under the bus only to congratulate everyone at the end of the video 💀 Hypocrisy much?
I support JR and i'm also quite upset (not to the point of giving backhanded compliments) that JR didn't win cos let's be real Mnet's a conniving snake.
If Mnet wanted transparency, they should have just opened it up for global voting. Claiming to be fair by giving an 80% weightage of the grand total points to live voting is totally skewered.
As i've mentioned in other videos, it should have been the judges who have 80% of the deciding factor. Audience WILL vote based on biasness.
If anything, moving forward, SMF 2 &/or SWF 3 should adopt WOD's judging criteria and restrict the audience power to influence the vote.
ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 당신의 첫 진술은 재미있고 진실입니다.
This is logical move
Oh and i agree, OP is kids that throw tantrum in this videos
i acc really liked bebe and they deserved the winn
Many likes them too. This comment section and videos just butthurt
BEBE deserves the trophy period. All of them are talented as other team too. You all won’t vote for jam republic too even their good if they’re not famous before joining the swf2. Their even more popular than bada but BEBE won because they show how equally good they are speacially last night.
YESSSSSS!!!!
No they won because all the major votes were CLOSED to the international audience. Bffr numbers dont lie. Jam republic had the highest numbers every challenge globally but the korean audience would never let them win and only voted korean. Bebe is good but theres a reason Jam is more known and getting more exposure globally. Next time keep your bias to yourself when trynna make an objective statement ✋🏽
Jam is popular internationally because they know how to give a great performance and are VERSATILE in all dance styles unlike many crews on the show. Even Bebe stuck with the same style throughout the whole show. Bebe is the most popular in Korea which is where live votes were restricted to. Global doesn't matter in this because global voting was not included in live audience votes. Let's be real and focus on the dancing aspect and not the use of props jam and Mannequeen did better than bebe. Bebe had to take the jabbawockeez concept to stand out in end credit but the goal was to showcase what makes your group you and do something no one else can do. The other crews could do the same performance but no one could do jams the way they do. If the masks weren't in play and if Bada wasn't leader bebe wouldn't have made it far
@@Payurain22 the way the masks were giving jabbawockees and Bts Singularity vibes is proof that their performance gave anything but Bebe.
@@My94Zone ya'll act like BEBE isn't also popular internationally and online like did ya'll forget that they won the Chili viral dance challenge as well with JAM REPUBLIC coming in second.
Average ARMY once again saying somebody copied their boys pls. So what nobody can use the mask concept anymore cause others did before? stop being a clown. Their perfomance was very much in the BEBE style, did you even watch the full show?. Yes it was very much jabbawockees inspired as a way to symbolize they're one singular unit/crew (which is why the jabbawockess used the masks for) since everyone kept saying its just Bada and the girls. Just say you're buthurt that your favs didn't win and stop disregarding others achievements, hard work and skills.
Bebe deserve to win 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙. Claim it !!!
Nah fr the other bebe members needa kiss bada's feet cause she's the reason they won. At least with the other teams the other members shine individually but with bebe it's still just bada, no matter how hard they try. Jam gave this show performances they’ve never seen before. Plus I agree mannequeen keeps getting snubbed even though they perform better than 1mill.
You should not downgrade BEBE just to praise Jam Republic. BEBE DESERVE that win and it's not only because of BADA. Her teammates are equally good! Look at their synchronization and choreo!
Everyone deserve their place.
Not bashing on Bebe but rather Mnet’s score rules. JR got a perfect score of 200 on the crew mission which makes up for only 20% of the scores while lost out on the voting which makes up for 80% of the score. Well duh, how are foreigners gonna live vote on something that’s only done through text?? 😅 And they call it a global competition
fr fr
FRR!! Their end credits performance was so clean as well, the masks were even cooler cuz they used to make sure no one could tell who was bada, as some other crews criticised BEBE that they were just “bada and girls”, and their face covered means that they are all talented, not only one!
I disagree! BEBE should be at 4th placed based on their 2 remaining performance. They literally won just because of their popularity in korea. As you can see Jam Republic during the announcement of the winner, they already knew that BEBE will won. And Kirsten added on her speech, they didn't come to win but to show what an INTERNATIONAL crew is all about. To make it short, Jam got robbed!
Bebe deserves the win . At last night they was the best
Excuse me what did i just listen to 💀
to extreme bullshit 💀
I don't think so, bebe team showed up their own skills and a great performance as well not just bada but all members of bebe team they deserved in the top, we all aware that is a show but as we can see all their effort are amazing nothing to prove at all.
Se mofaron diciendo que SWF es un programa internacional cuando los votos siempre estaban al alcance de los coreanos. Si hubiera sido internacional como bien dijeron entonces era obvio que ese premio pertenecía a JR y no a BEBE. Además de que PARA MI, Mannequeen merecía el segundo lugar al ser un grupo fuerte tanto grupal como individualmente I had to say it, I'm sorry
잼리퍼블릭의 춤실력은 절대적으로 완벽하나 안무에 대한 창의력이 부족하다. 그들의 신체적 강점을 잘살려서 소름이 돋았던 적만 있지, 그이상의 무대를 보여주지 못했다. 참고로 해 한국팬들이 한국팀만 응원한다고 생각한다면 큰오산이다. 잼리퍼블릭은 국내투표수만으로도 마네퀸과 원밀리언을 이겼고 오히려 해외팬들 투표를 허용해주었다면 그들과 익숙한 잼리퍼블릭만 투표했을 것이다
Like i said if not JAM its BEBE, BEBE is strong we can't deny that.
Womp womp Bebe on top. You guys should’ve realized who was gonna win when bada dropped that smoke challenge 🤷🏾♀️
like sshe said bebe group sucks, but jam republic it going to be more know and watch bebe group fall out.
@@atomiceve9871 “watch bebe fall” girl bebe is making idols fall with they dance challenges you really think somebody gaf about jam. Bebe locked and secured ready to perform at mama awards as we speak. Boohoo
Bada literally carried the whole entire group if we're talking about individual best dancer I'll choose Bada Lee any day but as group Bebe was heavily lacking but honestly what were we expecting from Mnet they are known for their heavily rigged shows.😂😂😂😂
@@8skzxstay are we watching the same show? have you seen their end credit performance where all of them are masked? bro is delulu HAHAHA. CONGRATS TO ALL CREWS1! AND BEBE FOR GETTING THEIR DESERVED PLACING!!
@@anne7317😂😂😂😂girl tell him I think his or her mind is rigged wow 😂😂😂😂
Tsuba Kill was my favorite crew I lost interest after they got eliminated right away
I knew the second that tsubakill got eliminated that swf2 was rigged. Tsubakill was super talented and had a lot more to showcase
They just got bad luck battled with bebe early in the competition. Bebe was win fair and square. I want to see them longer too
it’s crazy cuz i literally don’t know ANY of the bebe members’ names except for bada 😭… that says a lot…not only abt the team but the leader
it says a lot about the editing duuh and you don't neeed to just watch the team as a whole DANCE
@@user-pj8dg2rr9d but wouldn’t you want your “winners” to at least be known enough for ppl to recognize them 😭 idk it just seems like bada is the sole reason for why they won
@@onikasqueendom8846 Oh don't worry they are recognized working with countless idols in the industry and more opportunities now that they won with shows CFs etc and their personnel SNS the beginning is Now not my winner or your winners every dancer on that show
@@onikasqueendom8846it says a lot about you. You didn't watch the show or focus on the dance if not you'll know that tatter saved Bebe during the kpop mission lusher and tatter really helped a lot in the mega crew mission and all the girls joined in choreographing their battle mission in fact bada wasn't even there fully for the first half and they really did well. If you were so horny that you focused too much on bada's hotness that's on you the Bebe girls did really well deal with it
@@onikasqueendom8846it's mnet. Favoritsm is their love
i wanted jam republic to win so bad!! they truly put the work in. but the fact that they managed to get to 2nd place on a korean show is an accomplishment in itself.
After watching their newest/latest interview and how they have never practiced as a group and some never saw each other dance until this show its amazing how fast they gelled as a team I credit TRISTON amazing leadership and she was very caring to other dancers she wasnt much for the talking trash that makes show famous or all the drama she is true Pro
but the ending credit performance from bebe was actually so good creative and more enticing than others though. i was jam rep fan but honestly the ending credit stage from bebe sealed my thought theyre going win either first or second
Creative? Lol do your research
The ending credit was heavily inspired by jabbawockeez so there's that. The audio they used is even popular in tiktok so where's the creativity there.
Legit from the moment I saw them win the chilli plus battle performance challenge and ended up first during those scorings, I knew there was something sketch…. I agree on your scoring on MQ being 2nd, wouldnt be mad if they were first neither, then Jam, they 1st, 1M or bebe 3rd. Overall bebe win doesn’t seem deserved because as a group they were okay but individually it was heavily lacking, personally I feel like Mannequeen and Jam reaaalllyyy demonstrated sll of their members properly and they all shine throughout the show.
This is a group dance competition for Gods sake not an individual competition. They had the best teamwork has a group so what's all this about individual again.... Stop looking for excuses and just congratulate people that win so that when you win people will congratulate you too
@@ekenemchukwunwaodor9241 This!When will this bitter people realize that bebe has a better teamwork..They are synchronized and dancing as one..
@@ekenemchukwunwaodor9241they are just a bunch of butthurt human being that blinded by stupidity to see the reality
My thoughts. Mannequeens showed their diversity here as a team where no one could have thought because of their Whacking forte. They are dancing literally dancing. Giving a justifiable performance where you can see them dancing. Use props to enhance their dancing moves not just use props to make dancing less visible. using of props should go together with their moves. Not to just AWE people with the props but made dancing less and less visible. Tsk.. tsk..
@@likes7941completely agree, mannequeen really did their job flawlessly. Waacking, krump, choreo, heel dance, song choice, samba+broadway, legendary props, you named it all
I'm dissapointed with this video. This comment section are a mess, filled by bitter and judgmental humans, blinded by their ego. To make their self better with demean others hard work with glee. I loves jam republic, loves all members. But i hate their so called "fans" here that throw so much hates just because yheir favorit didn't won. You guys that did that, need open your eyes that last night, bebe win fair and square with their performance with their last stage and over all works. U need to calm down and stop make the assumption based on your damned ego.
It's mostly Americans who are bitter as in American myself it's embarrassing
@@norabeckwith6893 just say international cause what lmao
@@norabeckwith6893 i don't know if they are american or not. I just know they are toxic
@@joniescribb5484 Americans are bitter cause a Korean group won over international group
Queer baiting dance style? What’s wrong with you ppl lmfao. If you think she’s attractive that’s on you , she’s not gonna change the dance style she’s had for years just for y’all. Also Bada had a bf (not sure if they are still together) so y’all forcing the lesbian queen thing is a bit much.
Literally!! Bada is publicly dating a man! These ppl just love to project their sexuality unto others. Any woman with baggy clothes is “queer”. That’s why it’s important to go out into the real world but they stay locked up in their rooms
Try to watch their performances one by one oveeeeeer and oveeeeeer again!!!Team Bebe did very very very well!
its disingenuous to claim Bada Lee "queer-baited" anyone.
Bada has been dancing like this well before Street Woman Fighter. Your claim would suggest Bada changed her style to appeal to that audience, but I disagree.
That doesn't invalidate your opinion of Bebe being undeserving, however, your argument regarding Bada's style is unsubstantiated.
Because this videos is full of bullshit
I agree, i love bebe and I wanted them to either place first or second. After seeing their preformance I think manaqueen and jam republic had the stronger prefromance over Bebe (not to say they didnt do good) and actually gave the right vibes from the music they chose.
Jam republic should of won followed manaqueen/bebe then 1million
performance wise (final mission)- its a head to head battle between MQ and JR. its a performance that will make you doubt if bebe is really the winner
@@asteriaaa_ i think jam stuck with afro beats and somehow their move not as sharp&clean as usual.
mannequen use difficult technic are awesome but they always struggle with positioning.
1mil seems runningout of idea and look exhausted.
Bebe ftw😂
@@asteriaaa_ there are 2 stage at the final mission. First stage JR and MQ has wow factor more than Bebe. 1 mil the last. But for final stage, bebe stage gives strong lasting performance that gives them their right to win.
@@ddrt0and bebe stucked up with their usual style. So what is new? 😂😂😂
@@ddrt0Jamre did THREE categories in Global Mission aaaaanddddd Do the native dance in the credit mission. So Who you think is bland hahahahaha
They deserve the win
damn a lot of people here clearly shows that they didnt watch the whole show. anyways, congrats Bebe!! Well deserved!
They are just butthurt
@@akuhappy3246And they are exactly those who try to make themselves like the heroes and know everything. But in fact, they are idiots and do not know anything
Jam Republic is royal family class. They’re style is different. Korean dancers aint got nothing against them.
Yup bebe definitely deserved the 1st place. And how tf is the rankings if it wasn't popularity and only talent. JAM REPUBLIC IS LITERALLY THE MOST F-ING POPULAR GROUP.
Out of all the performances last night? Only bebe's performance made a huge impression. All other three were underwhelming LMAO.
I guess you watch a different show then 😂
but again let’s not hate BEBE it’s MNET’s manipulation. anyway so proud of my queens 🩷🩷🩷🩷🩷
y'all call anything rigged for god sake overall their both amazing but seriously bebe took it home for the fact that they're good, race was probably played in this vote but still stop
Still congrats BEBE, JR, 1MILL, MANNEQUEEN🩵🩷🤍💛
Please don't keep hating on Bebe, they deserve it too
Agreed
Agree they showed greatness
Agree
BEBE is the only group who placed 1st four times, BEBE is the crew with the highest points overall if points were totalled from 1st mission to last
BEBE is the second most popular crew globally after JR, so with that (popularity) + points, they clearly are now top 1 since JR doesn't have as much points as BEBE in missions despite the fact they're the most popular crew
BEBE - highest points, second most popular, and now with the score of their recent mission + point for their crew song, chemistry added
It was already obvious from the beginning BEBE will win bcs they are extremly good at choreo and they know how to get the audience attention and everytime they get the freaking anticipation of everyone
Let's not forget every mission where in their practice or demo, they get voted least to win but after final performance they shock everyone and did win (yes all missions) + they never ranked last in everything, they never lost as well
All the missions BEBE's opponent is much weaker than theirs, especially on choreography, which is why they score 1st and win everytime
I agree that Jam Republic deserved first place, but I'm also happy with the results❤❤❤
They're really happy together. All the team have fun together, all fandom happy for bebe win.
Except one, jam republic fandom still can't accept the reality. They don't believe all teams are great, all of them deserve to be the winner. They think the only great team is jam republic, and only jam republic need to be the winner.
Poor jam republic members, they must be tired from giving non stop clarification because of their fans toxicity.
we've been saying since the start of the show how they're gonna make JR go as far as possible without winning and it sucks to be right about it 😭
The winner is Bada, I'm not sure about the other members' abilities because the other teams have members who are much better at dancing.
This is dance crew. There are concept, there are choreography, and there are chemistry as a group. Not just individual member "better at dancing"
@@akuhappy3246it's "street woman fighter", you have to be strong as a crew and individual
It's a reality competition show. It doesn't matter if it's by Mnet or any other producers. Shit is always rigged one way or another to favor drama, stories, and other entertainment value. I'm not sure why folks are so hung up on this idea this show actually determines who is the best.
Exactly in every way smth will be rigged
The queer bating accusation is so ridiculous. This video sounds like it’s just coming from a kid who is upset their faves didn’t win
I watched sultry film channel before this. Never i find such a ridicolous lines more than this videos by the creator.
imo Bebe deserve it. Well yeah Bada carrying Bebe, but other members are great too skill wise. Saying Bebe is mid and dont deserve the w means you just hatin and doesn't even watch or even understand 'dance'. And saying that the show rigged, bro if international fans can vote than it also rigged cuz yall be voting Jam, and other crews will be at disadvantage. And that ending credit mission showed that Bebe deserve the w, other crews just doing their usual thing or in other words it's decent. 1mil and Mannequeen ate? Well yeah, but cmon guys i seen them doing something like that since episode 1.
well in my opinion bebe had better performances than jam
Butthurt fans will not hear that. Shame on them
Support Jam and continue defending them but is it really fun to bash Bebe and discredit all their hardwork as if it were nothing? I can't refrain from being flabbergasted at all the types of ruthless comments I keep on seeing shaming Bebe and not giving value to the win that they did deserve. Audrey even had to post a story requesting the jammies to stop being so toxic because of all the hate towards Bada and bebe group. People who actually loved Bebe did notice other members and there were many moments where they all had a chance to shine and show their talent. I understand the frustration and yes the votes should've been international but that doesn't give the right to all of you, most not even professional dancers, to begin hate train against a group who equally worked hard for their win.
even if bada pulled with some votes it was a team effort! All the girls did amazing and bada helped and had members shine as individuals in diff stages. They had great energy and their performances and Choreo were never half assed. They deserved the win YAAAS. And if bada pulls any gender y yall mad abt it?
Team Bebe really deserves the win!no questions at all🤪🤪🤪
AGREE
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