I remember being 13, going to a museum in Istanbul with my family. One of the exhibits was, purportedly, a cast of Muhammad's footprint. My mother pointed me to it and talked about it in awe. My only thought was: Why is drawing and worshipping a picture of Muhammad forbidden, but casting his footprint and putting it up like some treasured artifact at a museum exhibit is fine? I was already secretly an atheist, only some friends at school and my sister knew about it.
Abdullah Gondal and the Masked Arab are two people who made me quit this nonsensical religion with utmost certainty. It is beyond doubt that this self praising 7th century Sheikh was a fraudster who made people's lives hell even after fourteen centuries.
How about you forget about Sheikh's, and other people's opinions and just read Qur'an. Then decide, if you want to leave Islam based on your OWN experience with it. Qur'an, promise's authenticity. Only the Qu'ran claims that it can't be changed. However, translators can change it unfortunetly. The Hadiths and Sunnah, doesn't make such broad claims that it can't be changed. But the Qu'ran does. Make the noble Qur'an, your main focus before you make your final decision to leave, or stay in Islam. I'm born in a Muslim family, but I was a theist, (because I releyed on Sheikh's, fatwas's and hadiths). None of these sources come from God directly. That's where most of us go wrong when trying to make a decision, to leave or stay in Islam. Alhamdulila I'm not a thiest anymore.
@misbah ailia, it was reading the quran that made me realise that it can only be man made because there are so many logical inconsistencies and blatant contradictions, as well as so many patriarchal, misogynistic and violent verses that any honest and thinking person would conclude that such injustices and barbaric narcissism, could not possibly have come from a truly righteous and divine source. It was exactly these indefensible and awfully terrible verses and ideas in the quran itself that made me leave islam.
It's. REALLY HURTS WHEN YOU SIT BACK AND BE HONEST TO YOURSELF AND THINK WHY THE MOST MERCIFUL AND TRUSTWORTHY PROPHET MOHAMMED DO OR SAYS THIS , OR ACT LIKE THAT.. IF THE TRUTH IS HURTING YOUR FEELINGS THEN YOU YOURSELF HAVING A PROBLEM CAN'T PIN POINT THE MISTAKES OF YOUR PROPHETS IN YOUR QURAN..
Only for wahhabis.. they take stories from Aisha like she is believable person, they say Nur Muhammad is shirk, so they become atheist from wahhabi which is so predictable.
I will only say I am glad that some people are actually using their brains to question and criticise and not just act like a sheep and blindly follow any BS.
Zack Smith or Dhruv rathi or Kumar shyam ( The alleged , self -proclaimed ,Rashtriya swayam sevak sangh Member ) writing a book on Beliefs and faithfulness of a billion Hindus ? False Analogy ...
Under current Pakistani law, he must be executed. Presumably, he is not in Pakistan, for his own physical safety. Of course, this is the problem with Pakistan - the cult has become extremely violent, and regards all critics of the cult as deserving of death. In other words, they have lost the argument, but they can still rely on murder to "win".
The question is why is allah so invested in Muhammad’s sexual and marital life. And dedicating valuable space to it in humanity’s last revelation. Mohammad hijab , care to answer this question ?
If we want muslims to be persuaded to watch this, put the bullet points on the screen from the first second. I feel like our challenge has become how can we deliver this particular piece of information to millions of muslims. It doenst help that attention spans are decreasong everyday...
They shouldn’t even bother. Every Muslim who is not just a cultural Muslim, heck any Muslim who has grown up in a Muslim society already knows this from childhood. This is hardly new to us.
Abdullah Gondal takes down Islam every single time he speaks about it! Thank you, Abdullah Sameer for all the interviews that you're making. They're so informative and proof me every day that I made the right choice!
Guys thanks a lot, I was always bullied by muslim on many issues, as i am hindu, you guys give courage to say some thing back, with facts. now those bullies are defensive.
Humanist " Now they are defensive " ... -Nope . You have temporarily subdued them in an inter -faith dialogue or they themselves don't have a comprehensive education on their own faith . More like they need a crash course or University degree on Islam ...
@@islamislam-zw3il If your are not muslim, then ty to read Quran 4:3, Quran 4:34, 4:15, Al Nisa 4:1, Prophet bathing with Aesha in menses Shahi Bhukai volume 1/book 6 nr.298, Ayesha complaining about mistreatment of women situation in islam Shahi bhukari 72:715 etc. Then you know wat I mean. Even if you are muslim then also try to find out ugly truth of Islam in reality, Muhammad a rapist of a forced child bride.
Thank you so much both of you are an amazing people my goodness I am glad to see you guys are discussing this topic! I am enjoyed and learning a lot and I was also laughing so hard some of the rules that are held in Islam my goodness I am glad two of you are talking about these issues!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks so much, both of you again and peace and safety :)
Bhin Bhin Kaka Nope . Muhammad was epileptic , who suffered from "painful , Excruciating , and smarting " episodes of Epilepsy .. There are many recorded and historically Documented cases of Epileptic patients "hallucinating , being delusional , imagining outrageous and sometimes even super artsy entities " .. Even in classical age , in the Greek civilization. , Various Greek court Bards in various provinces and regions of Pan -Greek civilization , associated schizophrenia , Narcisstic personality disorder and a range of Mental disorders with Epilepsy ... Do you Know how obstreperous this theory sounds on Face -value ??😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yes you can all prophet's are equal if you really are a muslim then look at the life of deniel he was also a courageous man i a'm a muslim and i love adam, deniel and abraham equally
@@theguyver4934why is only Muhammed mentioned in the Shahada? Why do Muslims all over the world get more upset about insults to Muhammed than any other prophet and even to God?
Warriors!! Trying their best to teach many innocent muslim brothers and sisters to know what is real islam and who is mohammad. Am too an ex-muslim, so happy to see them and hear.
A fascinating conversation. Many thanks for recording it. When I read the quran (taking the suras chronologically) I had a vision of Allah perching on Muhammad’s shoulder, like a parrot.
Thanks so much what you guys do!! You serve humanity and doing a great service for the whole world!!! I am so glad to see people like you gl exist! ! ! Always peace and safety
No need for paranormal stories. The hadiths+Sira+Quran tell you everything you need to know about the "perfect" man Muhammad and what Islam really is. Islam should be judged by it's founder - not by any typical muslim who will sugar coat it for you.
Thanks Abdullah G...I'd missed this. I've downloaded this and am really looking forward to learning from you (again). I saw something similar in a debate show by Christian Prince, This topic is so damning that it's almost unbelievable. This needs huge publicity, most do not know this. It's clear proof of Islam being a cult with a manipulative cult leader. Great work guys, you're bringing much needed light on this humanity sapping cult.
Zack Smith Mohammed is considered as a perfect man by muslims, you’re encouraged to follow his example and you’re not allowed to criticize him or even make a picture of him. That’s a personality cult.
Zack Smith If you leave out all the hadith you’re stuck with all the incitement to violence, war and killing in the quran for which there is no context. Wife beating. Women’s testimony counting as half of the man. Women inheriting only half compared to their brothers.
Im indonesia. Left islam about 2 years without any influence from anyone. I started questioning about islam started 2016, when there's big demonstration against the best governor of jakarta, because he's a Christian. I start read the translation of quran, and noticed quran is repeating and from one ain to the next ain, they don't make sense. And comes to aisha, and i started thinking, eiy... is he a paedophile? And comes how he can married so many women, eiy, mostly their husband die from war. Is that intentionally? And comes to abu bakar, and how come a father gave his 6 yo daugther to 50+ guy to marry if not because of politic reason? Islam is a political vehicle.
Quran verse 69.40: [That] indeed, the Qur'an is the word of a noble Messenger. So Quran says Quran was Mohammed's words, so how many Muslims disagree with this Quranic verse?
27. If thou couldst but see when they are confronted with the Fire! They will say: "Would that we were but sent back! Then would we not reject the signs of our Lord, but would be amongst those who believe!"
This Is A Detailed Piece Of Abdullah Sameer's Video,"Mohamed,Allah's Favorite Prophet". Any Rational Human That Watches This Video And Still Consider Islam As True Must Be Suffering From A Form Of Mental Disorders. Great Job In Pointing Out These Inconsistencies Of Religions In General Guys..👍👍👍
Sameer, I suggest you to read this very interesting book by Todd Lawson's "The Crucifixion and the Qur'an: A Study in the History of Muslim Thought", which is an eyeopener work
"Smart" people are more susceptible to self-spin bias when presented with evidence contradicting pre-existing beliefs. Often takes many years to extricate oneself from the web of religious orthodoxy.
Two things that have concerned me of late. How on earth does it take the helping of 3000 angels to beat mere humans in a war when our perceptions of angels is something of greatness. Surely 1 or 2 angels would have been sufficient especially as humans are unable to see them during the battle. Secondly, if Muhammad has been sent to humans and jins alike, why do we not have any record of the process jins have gone through to accept Islam. Clearly the struggle Muhammad has gone through to convey the message of Islam to mankind is clearly documented.
The truth of Christianity still works even today. With humility the Christian God can still talk to you if you ask Him in sincerity. Christ promised to be with His followers for ever.
@Amran Qurban 2000yrs? the holy spirit of God is still available to those who believe in him, people still have divine dreams and visions, prophecies, miracles still happen through the name of Jesus.
@Amran Qurban because life is not just by chance but there is a purpose for life. Humans are different from animals because we have soul and that is the eternal part of us. Life is just a timeframe given to us to determine our eternity, what is in it for God? we are his creation he loves us and wants all of us to be with him in heaven for eternity but like any just judge God cannot dismiss your sins simply because you did some good deeds. If you stole and you are before a judge he will not set you free because you did something good in your life, the only way you can be set free is for someone to pay your fine for you or you pay it yourself. Of course if someone wants to pay your fine for you and you refuse to accept it your punishment will still hold that's where belief and disbelief comes in. The bible is a love story of God towards man, shows his plan to save man from eternal destruction, it starts with raising up a people for himself israel through which he could come down in flesh to pay the ultimate price for the salvation of all mankind according to the law he gave to moses whenever anyone needed forgiveness a sacrifice of a lamb had to be made to atone for sins basically a life in exchange for another, he couldnt break his own law he had to offer himself as a perfect sacrifice in exchange for us since the old covenant had flaws, however he gives us freewill to choose where we want to be for eternity.
@Amran Qurban have read a lot about atheism and find it difficult to believe there is no creator, am a medical personnel by the way. It just doesn't make sense that everything in existence today came about by chaos the big bang, look at the ecosystem alone you realise a lot of thought went in its making it cannot be by chance that animals like sheep , duck and other animals that are prey breed faster and more than predators, if we look at the dna, genes are well arranged and paired in specific numbers to determine how we look as humans it cannot be by chance or chaos. Meteorites have hit earth and no life was formed rather it brought about destruction, chaos always brings about destruction nothing more nothing less so a big bang couldn't have c brought life into existence. The evolution theory is more laughable because till date we haven't seen a fish change into a frog, adaptation is different from evolution, adaptation is the reason why some humans have a lighter complexion than others and different hair textures but at the end of the day we are all human still the same species so atheism itself is questionable even though Islam is fake that doesn't mean there is no creator the burden is on us to find by searching. I can 100 percent assure you that he is the Christian God because we have seen him do the supernatural and have a day to day fellowship with his holy spirit who strengthen us and help us to live a life pleasing in his sight. He is a personal God he shows himself to those who believe in him, it's not about you taking it from me but basically about you experiencing him for yourself. Don't stop searching God bless you and reveal himself to you
adjoa anima That doesn’t mean a Man is God That is delusional like other religions Even worse There is God one above All Just doesn’t mean that religious writings are truth
One of the things that confuse me to this day is that God is all powerful/all knowing right? He created everything right? Then why is the only best way he could show his message to his people be through some random messengers? Like if he truly wanted people to not have doubts and to fully believe then why did he not reveal his message to everyone? That way there would be no doubt
@Zack Smith but 9:29 says about fighting those who not believe in allah and his messenger. And in 9:30 allah will punish Jews and Christian just because they believe Jesus Christ or Ezra is the son of God. Seems like your allah have problems with others who do not believe in him. And quran is completely irrational and nonsense book ever.
It is a distinctly Islamic viewpoint that a religious book must be exact in detail. Matthew Mark Luke and John don't have to be exact in detail and can still carry the proper message.
To be fair, that was not the Christian position in the past when the Bible was assumed to be literally true and infallible. It is only a strictly Islamic doctrine today because only Muslims widely believe in their scripture as literal words of their god
@@greenlilac32 True somewhat but Christian scholars have known the differences for 2000 years and developed an exegesis to explain it. The lay christian didn't/doesn't know about them. Similarly the lay Muslim is unaware of the many different Arabic versions of the Quran.
@@heathersoares186 9. They will say: "Yes indeed; a Warner did come to us, but we rejected him and said, 'Allah never sent down any (Message): ye are nothing but an egregious delusion. Surah Mulk. Verse 9
@@heathersoares186 10. They will further say: "Had we but listened or used our intelligence, we should not (now) be among the Companions of the Blazing Fire!"verse 10
I am using my Intelligence. Noah in the Quran heard from Allah Abraham in the Quran heard from Allah Moses in the Quran heard from Allah Jesus in the Quran heard from Allah Mohammed only heard from Gabriel.
@@heathersoares186 why is there a surah in the named Muhammad? Surah 47.why is ALLAH addressing Muhammad directly in the Quran? Have you ever read the Quran in a humble way? Seeking guidance? Jesus greeted the same way, may peace be upon you
I've heard this over and over He/ she is very smart they are a doctor, a engineer, a scientist, a college graduate. I believe this is misleading, a mistake. If knowledge is compartmentalized they are following instruction, doing what they are told, just like one who follows a religion. One with critical thinking skills is different and does not necessarily have to be a graduate from a scholastic institution. He/ She is a thinker. This make us trust doctors and lawyers and engineers and so on when we should not. I have a Master degree and it was not until I acquired critical thinking skills that I could think
Totally agree ... We juman need guidance, guidelines to follow and learning and constant researching involves critical thinking.... Even the subjects.we study on any particular course or degrees we are trying to achieve are oir guidelines and sources and references we need to be able to achieve our goals, without these, we are just like circling around without a proper destination.....my Jesus is proven holy, sinless, a word of God, pure holy and true ... Gondal and Sameer dont have to convert to Christianity but they must know that Jesus love them both unconditionally no matter what....
1:05:50 The translation is false from what I have noticed ("Tamanna" in Arabic means wish or desire and not recite) This one's more accurate : "Never did We send a messenger or a prophet before thee, but, when he framed a desire, Satan threw some (vanity) into his desire: but Allah will cancel anything (vain) that Satan throws in, and Allah will confirm (and establish) His Signs: for Allah is full of Knowledge and Wisdom." - Quran 22:52 This is the Yusuf Ali translation
@Zack Smith why don't you refute the points they made in the video instead of whining and complaining in the comments. Make a refutation video instead of showing your oily food videos.
@Zack Smith 5 69 , 22 17 salvation even for non muslims? 5:69 Indeed, those who have believed [in Prophet Muhammad] and those [before Him] who were Jews or Sabeans or Christians - those [among them] who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness - no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve. Salvation is only for those who believe in Muhammed, why lie
Abdullah Sameer, even after being Ex-muslim for years now, I think he is more Ex-Sunni, then being an Ex-Muslim. I see his smiles disappear everytime when someone directly criticize Prop.Mohd. I feel he is back to being a Ismaeli just to exercise moderateness. I am not a Muslim, But I would love the discipline that it puts upon, if it was only in defense, military, army etc. Civil life would suck though like it does. FYI:- 2018 Statistics show that, ""Atheism is the next raising population, Followed by Islam in the 2nd position, and then Christianity and Hinduism respectively."" There are around 450million publicly aware atheist population, which is almost equivalent to that 25% of the Muslim population who are extremist. If that stats helps us to predict few future pawns. Thank You Keep Doing.
@Islam Safari Because, they beleive in Quran, Like literally beleiving it. I have read it, very violent. Good for army, bad for civilians. Islam can be very effective during War period. And Worst in normal life situation.
You guys may totally reject Jesus and his holiness... But comparing to the morality, trueness and miracles Jesus haa done and showed, im sure one day when you are actually finally realising your time in this earth is about to end, trust me, you both will call onto the name of JESUS.... mark my word...
This is the sad thing about Islam, which proves it is the making of evil. Christianity is and was incredible even in the days of Mohamed, and it had many of its opponent then yet failed to undermine it. Mohamed nevertheless used by the most evil ideology of Islam was a successful opponent with his false antiChristian religion made it difficult for those who abandon Islam to become Christians. However many are able to still find so much beauty and truth in it and convert to it. Sadly you guys are among the former.
gabriel moses , Most of Arabic name are just not names, I know and Mohammad’s family was Hindu and they were worshiping Indian kings as god. They still worship king Lah (Al Lah ) Hindu god Ram son, he founded city Lahore after his name , in Iron Age , about 3 thousands years ago. King Lah idol is still in cabba called Higra e aswad.
gabriel moses , Mohammad ‘s father’ s name is worshiper of Lah ( Abdul- Lah) , king Lah died 1600 years before Mohammad ‘s time, so they were just worshiping his idol ( Lah Lingam = Black stone = Higra e Aswad) , Mohammad kept his father’s god name as well his idol too to be prayed to.
@@superatheist9821 According to the Islamic source. when muhamad was born His father died 4 years earlier... it does not make sense..but according to hadith .muslim women can get pregnant till 4-5 years.. LOL..
The underlying premise of Islam is that Muhammad received these revelations directly from God. Abdullah and Abdullah know that Muhammad created these verses to suit his whims. Even if Islam is reformed to a tolerable set of beliefs, it is still not from God.
You both put it very well in the end, but i have to say i think you overstimate some things Gondal, i think there were many people the closest and the one following from the beginning more than the others that at some point had to realize the madness and the coincidental benefits for mohammed, but i think by that point there was nothing they could do, you made some example yourself there was people saying "oh he's mad here is coming" or the wife saying that he's god it's very good to him, this are not words of believers or at least are words of someone who's thinking that even if he is the messanger or whatever, it's using his position to put forward what he wants, but in they're position when there are thousands of people who absolutely believe him and are in your same position where even if they do not, they have to act like it, even only for fear of being killed, what are you gonna do about it? And we have to say that Mohammed brought money power and women conquering to his people and as long as people had all they wanted they were happy to worship whatever, the god they worshipped before what ever did for them? I think most people would convert to islam if you promised them 4 wives with total obedience and money if then you put on top the kingdom of heaven it's only a plus and belief becomes the last concern, now that i think about it i would gladly accept that offer today, fuck spit here mohammed, yeah you can marry 20 women and your daugher and a cow for all i care, give me my four, yes i love you, i told you i love you leave my arm alone, please let's keep it a distance relationship.
Your argument about the Bible is sad. God did not write the Bible. It is written by humans, with inspiration not as a scientific book but as a spiritual with the minds and the understanding of the people of that era, and not contradicted by today’s knowledge. So God in the beginning created heaven and earth indeed, the fact that one was 13.7 billion, and the second 4 billion has no literary contradiction. So I find your objection is rather silly. Also the Bible has a story to tell. That there is a creator in chapter one of Genesis, and a creator of Adam as representative of the ideal man who by his idealism can save the creation in chapter one. But his failure in obedience was blessing in disguise. Because he was a life to express himself and to make beauty in the earth, and to have the the knowledge of good and evil. And with this was the promise of eternal salvation by the redemption offered by God himself . it is God’s battle against evil, by bringing many children to the glory. A promise that if you believe you are blessed hear on earth and eternally. What makes it true to the Christian, is that God appeared in the flesh and His resurrection in Jesus Christ is the corner stone. This sums the whole Bible.
By Grace There are many, for example one quote “I have seen the face of God”, in another place “Nobody has seen the face of God”. Jesus descended from which son of David: Solomon/Nathan. Google it, you’ll find hundreds
1:09:00 "GOd" I think this capitalization is unintentional but it's suitable because random capitalization is a sign of sarcasm on the Internet nowadays 😂
Great content. Whenever I hear Muslims say 'Allah says in the Quran' I automatically replace the word Allah with Muhammad in my head. One point that needs clarification: Wayne Bent married his son's wife whereas Muhammad married his adopted son's ex wife. Big difference
Your adopted son is your son. He is your family. Muhammad abolished Adoption in Islam. Muhammad commanded the divorce. Only a narcissist would destroy family bonds to have sex with his daughter-in-law.
I remember being 13, going to a museum in Istanbul with my family. One of the exhibits was, purportedly, a cast of Muhammad's footprint. My mother pointed me to it and talked about it in awe. My only thought was: Why is drawing and worshipping a picture of Muhammad forbidden, but casting his footprint and putting it up like some treasured artifact at a museum exhibit is fine?
I was already secretly an atheist, only some friends at school and my sister knew about it.
wait till you see muslims kissing that footprint as they kiss the Black Stone but call christians idolaters. 🤣
Abdullah Gondal and the Masked Arab are two people who made me quit this nonsensical religion with utmost certainty. It is beyond doubt that this self praising 7th century Sheikh was a fraudster who made people's lives hell even after fourteen centuries.
How about you forget about Sheikh's, and other people's opinions and just read Qur'an. Then decide, if you want to leave Islam based on your OWN experience with it.
Qur'an, promise's authenticity. Only the Qu'ran claims that it can't be changed. However, translators can change it unfortunetly.
The Hadiths and Sunnah, doesn't make such broad claims that it can't be changed. But the Qu'ran does. Make the noble Qur'an, your main focus before you make your final decision to leave, or stay in Islam. I'm born in a Muslim family, but I was a theist, (because I releyed on Sheikh's, fatwas's and hadiths). None of these sources come from God directly. That's where most of us go wrong when trying to make a decision, to leave or stay in Islam. Alhamdulila I'm not a thiest anymore.
@@misbahailia3345 what do YOU make of those verses in the quran which are obviously written to benefit Mohammed?
@misbah ailia, it was reading the quran that made me realise that it can only be man made because there are so many logical inconsistencies and blatant contradictions, as well as so many patriarchal, misogynistic and violent verses that any honest and thinking person would conclude that such injustices and barbaric narcissism, could not possibly have come from a truly righteous and divine source. It was exactly these indefensible and awfully terrible verses and ideas in the quran itself that made me leave islam.
Most muslims watching this : *shoves finger into ear and starts screaming*
I am watching and i am muslim 😊, but i am not what u say, 😀
I literally bit my fingers
It's. REALLY HURTS WHEN YOU SIT BACK AND BE HONEST TO YOURSELF AND THINK WHY THE MOST MERCIFUL AND TRUSTWORTHY PROPHET MOHAMMED DO OR SAYS THIS , OR ACT LIKE THAT.. IF THE TRUTH IS HURTING YOUR FEELINGS THEN YOU YOURSELF HAVING A PROBLEM CAN'T PIN POINT THE MISTAKES OF YOUR PROPHETS IN YOUR QURAN..
Only for wahhabis.. they take stories from Aisha like she is believable person, they say Nur Muhammad is shirk, so they become atheist from wahhabi which is so predictable.
I will only say I am glad that some people are actually using their brains to question and criticise and not just act like a sheep and blindly follow any BS.
Abdullah Gondal is just amazing. I think he should right a book on Islam.
@@mirjalal3882 prophet mohmadd was first terrorist
Zack Smith or Dhruv rathi or Kumar shyam ( The alleged , self -proclaimed ,Rashtriya swayam sevak sangh Member ) writing a book on Beliefs and faithfulness of a billion Hindus ?
False Analogy ...
Mir Jalal He was the Hafiz syed or Dawood ibrahim of His times...😂😂😂😂😂😂
Under current Pakistani law, he must be executed. Presumably, he is not in Pakistan, for his own physical safety. Of course, this is the problem with Pakistan - the cult has become extremely violent, and regards all critics of the cult as deserving of death.
In other words, they have lost the argument, but they can still rely on murder to "win".
Abdullah Gondal, should publish a book in Urdu - to set Pakistan free.
Well said. Ex-Muslim from Iran.
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The question is why is allah so invested in Muhammad’s sexual and marital life. And dedicating valuable space to it in humanity’s last revelation.
Mohammad hijab , care to answer this question ?
The more I find out about Islam, the more I think it resembles OCD...
nah, I'd take OCD any day over that mind-obliterating cult
Muhammad probably had a frontal lobe injury. He had epilepsy, sex addiction and narcissism.
This is a fantastic video. It is the most organized flawless about the Quran and Mohamed who cited it.
The maria qibtiyya story really made me open my eyes
I left Islam because that story
If we want muslims to be persuaded to watch this, put the bullet points on the screen from the first second. I feel like our challenge has become how can we deliver this particular piece of information to millions of muslims. It doenst help that attention spans are decreasong everyday...
They shouldn’t even bother. Every Muslim who is not just a cultural Muslim, heck any Muslim who has grown up in a Muslim society already knows this from childhood. This is hardly new to us.
Abdullah Gondal takes down Islam every single time he speaks about it! Thank you, Abdullah Sameer for all the interviews that you're making. They're so informative and proof me every day that I made the right choice!
Guys thanks a lot, I was always bullied by muslim on many issues, as i am hindu, you guys give courage to say some thing back, with facts. now those bullies are defensive.
Humanist " Now they are defensive " ...
-Nope .
You have temporarily subdued them in an inter -faith dialogue or they themselves don't have a comprehensive education on their own faith .
More like they need a crash course or University degree on Islam ...
@@islamislam-zw3il If your are not muslim, then ty to read Quran 4:3, Quran 4:34, 4:15, Al Nisa 4:1, Prophet bathing with Aesha in menses Shahi Bhukai volume 1/book 6 nr.298, Ayesha complaining about mistreatment of women situation in islam Shahi bhukari 72:715 etc.
Then you know wat I mean. Even if you are muslim then also try to find out ugly truth of Islam in reality, Muhammad a rapist of a forced child bride.
@Fatima I hope you be strong and find your path to happy free life.
Thank you so much both of you are an amazing people my goodness I am glad to see you guys are discussing this topic!
I am enjoyed and learning a lot and I was also laughing so hard some of the rules that are held in Islam my goodness I am glad two of you are talking about these issues!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks so much, both of you again and peace and safety :)
This is brilliant...wish I could give 1000 like 👍x1000
You can't separate Mohammad from Allah.
Yeah, young master and his never disappointing serv are a team.
Yeah, young master and his never disappointing serv are a team.
Bhin Bhin Kaka Nope .
Muhammad was epileptic , who suffered from "painful , Excruciating , and smarting " episodes of Epilepsy ..
There are many recorded and historically Documented cases of Epileptic patients "hallucinating , being delusional , imagining outrageous and sometimes even super artsy entities " ..
Even in classical age , in the Greek civilization. , Various Greek court Bards in various provinces and regions of Pan -Greek civilization , associated schizophrenia , Narcisstic personality disorder and a range of Mental disorders with Epilepsy ...
Do you Know how obstreperous this theory sounds on Face -value ??😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yes you can all prophet's are equal if you really are a muslim then look at the life of deniel he was also a courageous man i a'm a muslim and i love adam, deniel and abraham equally
@@theguyver4934why is only Muhammed mentioned in the Shahada? Why do Muslims all over the world get more upset about insults to Muhammed than any other prophet and even to God?
Warriors!! Trying their best to teach many innocent muslim brothers and sisters to know what is real islam and who is mohammad. Am too an ex-muslim, so happy to see them and hear.
@Zack Smith
Come out from 'lucifer' allah and allah's creator mohammad then look through own eyes you can see the Truth.
A fascinating conversation. Many thanks for recording it. When I read the quran (taking the suras chronologically) I had a vision of Allah perching on Muhammad’s shoulder, like a parrot.
Thanks so much what you guys do!! You serve humanity and doing a great service for the whole world!!!
I am so glad to see people like you gl exist! ! !
Always peace and safety
No need for paranormal stories. The hadiths+Sira+Quran tell you everything you need to know about the "perfect" man Muhammad and what Islam really is. Islam should be judged by it's founder - not by any typical muslim who will sugar coat it for you.
Thank you for putting third things out there!!!! I’m glad I found you guys to help me through my apostasy. This cult has put too much toll on my life.
I love Gondal's voice. So nice to listen to ❤
Yeah he should have his own channel :)
He should be a singer.
I too love this 2 X Abdullah ❤️❤️
He lives in America so he has American accent.
Thanks Abdullah G...I'd missed this. I've downloaded this and am really looking forward to learning from you (again). I saw something similar in a debate show by Christian Prince, This topic is so damning that it's almost unbelievable. This needs huge publicity, most do not know this. It's clear proof of Islam being a cult with a manipulative cult leader. Great work guys, you're bringing much needed light on this humanity sapping cult.
Gondal needs a YT page 💪🏼
He lives in Pakistan..its dangerous for him to live there with an CZcams channel and say what he thinks about Islam
He's in canada now @@SR-mv2mf
Trinity of Islam:
Allah, Prophet and Holy Spit
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Allah, Muhammad, Gabriel
@M K MISHRA you need to work on your humour:)
Abdullah Sameer please post this on the exmuslim subreddit. More people should be aware or this topic.
Why you no? Do red. In it.
What I don't understand is why Mohammad's tribesmen didn't call him out on his dishonesty..perhaps the men benefited from the BS touted by Mohammad?
Does Abdullah Gondal have a youtube channel, twitter, anywhere I can find more? Enjoyed this very much
He's on fb
Almost bursting with fury: Every time a Group is cast therein, its Keepers will ask, "Did no Warner come to you?"
on fb
Great conversation guys, what a refreshing approach of Mohammed’s personality cult!
Zack Smith Mohammed is considered as a perfect man by muslims, you’re encouraged to follow his example and you’re not allowed to criticize him or even make a picture of him. That’s a personality cult.
Zack Smith I didn’t mention hadith, you are bringing them up
Zack Smith I didn’t mention his personality, but muslims are taught to follow his example, by doing as he did.
Zack Smith If you leave out all the hadith you’re stuck with all the incitement to violence, war and killing in the quran for which there is no context. Wife beating. Women’s testimony counting as half of the man. Women inheriting only half compared to their brothers.
Zack Smith Don’t bother. I’ve already had this discussion with smarter people than you.
Im indonesia. Left islam about 2 years without any influence from anyone. I started questioning about islam started 2016, when there's big demonstration against the best governor of jakarta, because he's a Christian. I start read the translation of quran, and noticed quran is repeating and from one ain to the next ain, they don't make sense. And comes to aisha, and i started thinking, eiy... is he a paedophile? And comes how he can married so many women, eiy, mostly their husband die from war. Is that intentionally? And comes to abu bakar, and how come a father gave his 6 yo daugther to 50+ guy to marry if not because of politic reason? Islam is a political vehicle.
Quran verse 69.40: [That] indeed, the Qur'an is the word of a noble Messenger.
So Quran says Quran was Mohammed's words, so how many Muslims disagree with this Quranic verse?
Please read Quran Verse 69:43..hooe u can understand
you guyz have gone down the history 😂 .. congrats .. the reformists and torch bearers
Almost bursting with fury: Every time a Group is cast therein, its Keepers will ask, "Did no Warner come to you?"
bashier francis Yeah a Warner did come. his name was bill Warner.
@@sonammeena8674 tell that to your creator on the day of judgment. They say the one who laughs last, laughs best. Peace be unto you
@@BEAMERBMWboy are you scared of hell??
27. If thou couldst but see when they are confronted with the Fire! They will say: "Would that we were but sent back! Then would we not reject the signs of our Lord, but would be amongst those who believe!"
Love this, please more Gondal!
Wow Abdulla G is very intelligent and well versed.. like to listen to his views
Abdullah Sameer, can you tell us how many percentage of your viewers is from Indonesia?
Islam so self centred, submissive and subjugation. Very good piece of eye opening work.
This Is A Detailed Piece Of Abdullah Sameer's Video,"Mohamed,Allah's Favorite Prophet". Any Rational Human That Watches This Video And Still Consider Islam As True Must Be Suffering From A Form Of Mental Disorders. Great Job In Pointing Out These Inconsistencies Of Religions In General Guys..👍👍👍
Good luck
Love from USA
Sameer, I suggest you to read this very interesting book by Todd Lawson's "The Crucifixion and the Qur'an: A Study in the History of Muslim Thought", which is an eyeopener work
"Smart" people are more susceptible to self-spin bias when presented with evidence contradicting pre-existing beliefs. Often takes many years to extricate oneself from the web of religious orthodoxy.
If a person is delusional or narcissistic they become more delusional the more others support their delusion..... followers are enablers
Two things that have concerned me of late. How on earth does it take the helping of 3000 angels to beat mere humans in a war when our perceptions of angels is something of greatness. Surely 1 or 2 angels would have been sufficient especially as humans are unable to see them during the battle. Secondly, if Muhammad has been sent to humans and jins alike, why do we not have any record of the process jins have gone through to accept Islam. Clearly the struggle Muhammad has gone through to convey the message of Islam to mankind is clearly documented.
The truth of Christianity still works even today. With humility the Christian God can still talk to you if you ask Him in sincerity. Christ promised to be with His followers for ever.
@Amran Qurban 2000yrs? the holy spirit of God is still available to those who believe in him, people still have divine dreams and visions, prophecies, miracles still happen through the name of Jesus.
@Amran Qurban because life is not just by chance but there is a purpose for life. Humans are different from animals because we have soul and that is the eternal part of us. Life is just a timeframe given to us to determine our eternity, what is in it for God? we are his creation he loves us and wants all of us to be with him in heaven for eternity but like any just judge God cannot dismiss your sins simply because you did some good deeds. If you stole and you are before a judge he will not set you free because you did something good in your life, the only way you can be set free is for someone to pay your fine for you or you pay it yourself. Of course if someone wants to pay your fine for you and you refuse to accept it your punishment will still hold that's where belief and disbelief comes in. The bible is a love story of God towards man, shows his plan to save man from eternal destruction, it starts with raising up a people for himself israel through which he could come down in flesh to pay the ultimate price for the salvation of all mankind according to the law he gave to moses whenever anyone needed forgiveness a sacrifice of a lamb had to be made to atone for sins basically a life in exchange for another, he couldnt break his own law he had to offer himself as a perfect sacrifice in exchange for us since the old covenant had flaws, however he gives us freewill to choose where we want to be for eternity.
@Amran Qurban have read a lot about atheism and find it difficult to believe there is no creator, am a medical personnel by the way. It just doesn't make sense that everything in existence today came about by chaos the big bang, look at the ecosystem alone you realise a lot of thought went in its making it cannot be by chance that animals like sheep , duck and other animals that are prey breed faster and more than predators, if we look at the dna, genes are well arranged and paired in specific numbers to determine how we look as humans it cannot be by chance or chaos. Meteorites have hit earth and no life was formed rather it brought about destruction, chaos always brings about destruction nothing more nothing less so a big bang couldn't have c brought life into existence. The evolution theory is more laughable because till date we haven't seen a fish change into a frog, adaptation is different from evolution, adaptation is the reason why some humans have a lighter complexion than others and different hair textures but at the end of the day we are all human still the same species so atheism itself is questionable even though Islam is fake that doesn't mean there is no creator the burden is on us to find by searching. I can 100 percent assure you that he is the Christian God because we have seen him do the supernatural and have a day to day fellowship with his holy spirit who strengthen us and help us to live a life pleasing in his sight. He is a personal God he shows himself to those who believe in him, it's not about you taking it from me but basically about you experiencing him for yourself. Don't stop searching God bless you and reveal himself to you
adjoa anima That doesn’t mean a Man is God
That is delusional like other religions
Even worse
There is God one above All
Just doesn’t mean that religious writings are truth
Amen to that
I always took Islam too seriously until I found out how hilarious it is.😂😂😂😂Funny Honey. I always thought HE was a CON artist.
One of the things that confuse me to this day is that God is all powerful/all knowing right? He created everything right? Then why is the only best way he could show his message to his people be through some random messengers? Like if he truly wanted people to not have doubts and to fully believe then why did he not reveal his message to everyone? That way there would be no doubt
Who would he send to hell then?
The blackmail to the wives ayahs are played often through the big mosque's speakers in my neighborhood at dawn before azan.
In Islam there aren't red flags, but bloody banners‼‼🚩🚩
People are sick to death of it all !!!!!
@Zack Smith but 9:29 says about fighting those who not believe in allah and his messenger. And in 9:30 allah will punish Jews and Christian just because they believe Jesus Christ or Ezra is the son of God. Seems like your allah have problems with others who do not believe in him. And quran is completely irrational and nonsense book ever.
It is a distinctly Islamic viewpoint that a religious book must be exact in detail. Matthew Mark Luke and John don't have to be exact in detail and can still carry the proper message.
To be fair, that was not the Christian position in the past when the Bible was assumed to be literally true and infallible. It is only a strictly Islamic doctrine today because only Muslims widely believe in their scripture as literal words of their god
@@greenlilac32 True somewhat but Christian scholars have known the differences for 2000 years and developed an exegesis to explain it. The lay christian didn't/doesn't know about them. Similarly the lay Muslim is unaware of the many different Arabic versions of the Quran.
How reveling! Thanks for a great video!🙏🏼🌺
You are so pretty
@@abdulaleem9970 Thx☺️Nice thing to say😊
Bro we need a video of how to get out of indoctrinated mind.it is not easy task bro.
This discussion is so epic no muslims are to be found in the comments. 😅😅😅😅
awesome facts and perspective of gondal
you must write book about it
This has helped me summarised my job. Thanks
"the word of gabriel"
In ebraic Gabriel means messanger of god.
Awesome abdullahs
I can't find that video! I so wanna watch it!
There are so many incentives and punishments for Muslims in Quran.
Gondal start your own youtube in Urdu/Hindi
Check out Dan Gibson’s CZcams channel. He is an archaeologist who argues for Petra as Muhammed’s home and start of Islam.
Check out Dan Gibson’s work on CZcams. He’s an archaeologist who’s investigated Petra as Muhammed’s home and start of Islam
short answer: yes, long answer: yeees!
😂😂
Almost bursting with fury: Every time a Group is cast therein, its Keepers will ask, "Did no Warner come to you?"surah mulk. verse 8
Warner Bros. - Looney Tunes
@@heathersoares186 9. They will say: "Yes indeed; a Warner did come to us, but we rejected him and said, 'Allah never sent down any (Message): ye are nothing but an egregious delusion. Surah Mulk. Verse 9
@@heathersoares186 10. They will further say: "Had we but listened or used our intelligence, we should not (now) be among the Companions of the Blazing Fire!"verse 10
I am using my Intelligence.
Noah in the Quran heard from Allah
Abraham in the Quran heard from Allah
Moses in the Quran heard from Allah
Jesus in the Quran heard from Allah
Mohammed only heard from Gabriel.
@@heathersoares186 why is there a surah in the named Muhammad? Surah 47.why is ALLAH addressing Muhammad directly in the Quran? Have you ever read the Quran in a humble way? Seeking guidance? Jesus greeted the same way, may peace be upon you
I've heard this over and over He/ she is very smart they are a doctor, a engineer, a scientist, a college graduate. I believe this is misleading, a mistake. If knowledge is compartmentalized they are following instruction, doing what they are told, just like one who follows a religion. One with critical thinking skills is different and does not necessarily have to be a graduate from a scholastic institution. He/ She is a thinker. This make us trust doctors and lawyers and engineers and so on when we should not. I have a Master degree and it was not until I acquired critical thinking skills that I could think
Totally agree ... We juman need guidance, guidelines to follow and learning and constant researching involves critical thinking.... Even the subjects.we study on any particular course or degrees we are trying to achieve are oir guidelines and sources and references we need to be able to achieve our goals, without these, we are just like circling around without a proper destination.....my Jesus is proven holy, sinless, a word of God, pure holy and true ... Gondal and Sameer dont have to convert to Christianity but they must know that Jesus love them both unconditionally no matter what....
Pardon my misspelling as I am rushing to type..😊
You guys raised some really good points and then took them apart expertly. Nice.
The couple wont say s single word against the Greek mythology but just objecting to islam .
MohMad made fool to Muslims 😆
Actually MohMad is allah and allah is MohMad 😂
Pl break it into clips of 10-15 minutes each.
Yes so true!
1:05:50 The translation is false from what I have noticed ("Tamanna" in Arabic means wish or desire and not recite)
This one's more accurate :
"Never did We send a messenger or a prophet before thee, but, when he framed a desire, Satan threw some (vanity) into his desire: but Allah will cancel anything (vain) that Satan throws in, and Allah will confirm (and establish) His Signs: for Allah is full of Knowledge and Wisdom." - Quran 22:52
This is the Yusuf Ali translation
The more I hear about this Muhammad fella, the less I like him.
On the first point. Claiming that to Love Allah is to Love Mohammed and visa versa... well dang... THAT IS SHIRK!
@Zack Smith why don't you refute the points they made in the video instead of whining and complaining in the comments. Make a refutation video instead of showing your oily food videos.
@Zack Smith address anything they said in the video. Any point they made they showed references unlike you.
@Zack Smith 5 69 , 22 17 salvation even for non muslims?
5:69
Indeed, those who have believed [in Prophet Muhammad] and those [before Him] who were Jews or Sabeans or Christians - those [among them] who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness - no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve.
Salvation is only for those who believe in Muhammed, why lie
Abdullah Sameer,
even after being Ex-muslim for years now,
I think he is more Ex-Sunni, then being an Ex-Muslim.
I see his smiles disappear everytime when someone directly criticize Prop.Mohd.
I feel he is back to being a Ismaeli just to exercise moderateness.
I am not a Muslim,
But I would love the discipline that it puts upon, if it was only in defense, military, army etc.
Civil life would suck though like it does.
FYI:- 2018 Statistics show that, ""Atheism is the next raising population, Followed by Islam in the 2nd position, and then Christianity and Hinduism respectively.""
There are around 450million publicly aware atheist population, which is almost equivalent to that 25% of the Muslim population who are extremist.
If that stats helps us to predict few future pawns.
Thank You
Keep Doing.
@Islam Safari Read it again?
I said it in army, in borders.
Not in civil life.
@Islam Safari Because, they beleive in Quran,
Like literally beleiving it.
I have read it, very violent.
Good for army, bad for civilians.
Islam can be very effective during War period.
And
Worst in normal life situation.
U both were fantastic
The themes gindl brought up were hilarious super cool 😎
You guys may totally reject Jesus and his holiness... But comparing to the morality, trueness and miracles Jesus haa done and showed, im sure one day when you are actually finally realising your time in this earth is about to end, trust me, you both will call onto the name of JESUS.... mark my word...
How many people do you think you have influenced?????
1:23:41 can you give me a citation for that hadith
Rightly said Abdullah Gondal, substitute Mohammad for Allah in some verses and it will be clear that the verses were meant for mohamMads benefit .
This is the sad thing about Islam, which proves it is the making of evil. Christianity is and was incredible even in the days of Mohamed, and it had many of its opponent then yet failed to undermine it. Mohamed nevertheless used by the most evil ideology of Islam was a successful opponent with his false antiChristian religion made it difficult for those who abandon Islam to become Christians. However many are able to still find so much beauty and truth in it and convert to it. Sadly you guys are among the former.
Great video, great information.
30:38 that's such a common belief here in Pakistan and I knew something was wrong and OMG gondol is so right about that thumb kissing thing 😂😂😂
Lmao sadaqah jariah, may Allah reward you brothers
Thinking so
Please make the letters and words more dark and larger so that aged people can read.
Mohammad = Allah = my wife.
Muhamad is not name but Title. it means the praise one..in Arabic word.
gabriel moses ,
Most of Arabic name are just not names, I know and Mohammad’s family was Hindu and they were worshiping Indian kings as god.
They still worship king Lah (Al Lah ) Hindu god Ram son, he founded city Lahore after his name , in Iron Age , about 3 thousands years ago. King Lah idol is still in cabba called Higra e aswad.
gabriel moses ,
Mohammad ‘s father’ s name is worshiper of Lah ( Abdul- Lah) , king Lah died 1600 years before Mohammad ‘s time, so they were just worshiping his idol ( Lah Lingam = Black stone = Higra e Aswad) , Mohammad kept his father’s god name as well his idol too to be prayed to.
@@superatheist9821 can u give me the reference..! ??
@@superatheist9821 According to the Islamic source. when muhamad was born His father died 4 years earlier... it does not make sense..but according to hadith .muslim women can get pregnant till 4-5 years.. LOL..
Read the Allah Delusion by Sajit Das.
Ok... Kewl... what is it abt though ?
@@universeofopulence sex , drugs and rocks to the kufars head . Good that helps .
are you a an ex muslim?
Great work it's for muslims eye and ear opening
May Allah guide both Abdullah back to Islam.
After what you've discovered how mentally ill mohamad and one of the proven narcissist and opportunist human ever existed, you still spreading dawa??
The whole conversation is so funny 😂😂😂
You two are like naughty kids talking about an uncle
😂😂😂
1:20:20 If that isn't shirk, then I don't know what else could be shirk!
so I just want to know if they reform islam as they say will they return to islam?
The underlying premise of Islam is that Muhammad received these revelations directly from God. Abdullah and Abdullah know that Muhammad created these verses to suit his whims. Even if Islam is reformed to a tolerable set of beliefs, it is still not from God.
You both put it very well in the end, but i have to say i think you overstimate some things Gondal, i think there were many people the closest and the one following from the beginning more than the others that at some point had to realize the madness and the coincidental benefits for mohammed, but i think by that point there was nothing they could do, you made some example yourself there was people saying "oh he's mad here is coming" or the wife saying that he's god it's very good to him, this are not words of believers or at least are words of someone who's thinking that even if he is the messanger or whatever, it's using his position to put forward what he wants, but in they're position when there are thousands of people who absolutely believe him and are in your same position where even if they do not, they have to act like it, even only for fear of being killed, what are you gonna do about it? And we have to say that Mohammed brought money power and women conquering to his people and as long as people had all they wanted they were happy to worship whatever, the god they worshipped before what ever did for them?
I think most people would convert to islam if you promised them 4 wives with total obedience and money if then you put on top the kingdom of heaven it's only a plus and belief becomes the last concern, now that i think about it i would gladly accept that offer today, fuck spit here mohammed, yeah you can marry 20 women and your daugher and a cow for all i care, give me my four, yes i love you, i told you i love you leave my arm alone, please let's keep it a distance relationship.
Your argument about the Bible is sad. God did not write the Bible. It is written by humans, with inspiration not as a scientific book but as a spiritual with the minds and the understanding of the people of that era, and not contradicted by today’s knowledge. So God in the beginning created heaven and earth indeed, the fact that one was 13.7 billion, and the second 4 billion has no literary contradiction.
So I find your objection is rather silly. Also the Bible has a story to tell. That there is a creator in chapter one of Genesis, and a creator of Adam as representative of the ideal man who by his idealism can save the creation in chapter one. But his failure in obedience was blessing in disguise. Because he was a life to express himself and to make beauty in the earth, and to have the the knowledge of good and evil. And with this was the promise of eternal salvation by the redemption offered by God himself . it is God’s battle against evil, by bringing many children to the glory. A promise that if you believe you are blessed hear on earth and eternally. What makes it true to the Christian, is that God appeared in the flesh and His resurrection in Jesus Christ is the corner stone. This sums the whole Bible.
Amen
But there is no evidence that all this is true. And there are many flaws and contradictions in the bible.
@@tanjavankessel2548 what are the contradictions?
@@tanjavankessel2548 what are the flaws?
By Grace There are many, for example one quote “I have seen the face of God”, in another place “Nobody has seen the face of God”. Jesus descended from which son of David: Solomon/Nathan. Google it, you’ll find hundreds
1:09:00 "GOd" I think this capitalization is unintentional but it's suitable because random capitalization is a sign of sarcasm on the Internet nowadays 😂
Abdullah Sameer's main obstacle is expecting Bible to be written as 21st century science book.
Too disturbing even to think about it. I also felt the similar by doing my own research about Mohammad. Thankfully I don't follow this cult anymore.
Please do a video on the similarities of Muhammad, Joseph Smith (Mormon Prophet) and Abdul Ibn Wahab Najdi (Founder of wahabism).
Great content. Whenever I hear Muslims say 'Allah says in the Quran' I automatically replace the word Allah with Muhammad in my head. One point that needs clarification: Wayne Bent married his son's wife whereas Muhammad married his adopted son's ex wife. Big difference
Your adopted son is your son. He is your family. Muhammad abolished Adoption in Islam. Muhammad commanded the divorce. Only a narcissist would destroy family bonds to have sex with his daughter-in-law.
knowledge is power.