Also why would Israel hide its face from Israel ? 🤦🏼♂️ it says he has no beauty for one to desire but God says Israel is beautiful like a women for others to desire. Oh, contradiction. 🤦🏼♂️ this is easy
So it’s just a coincidence that the “Suffering Servant” happens to endure everything Jesus accomplished in His coming.. including dying for the sins of the entire world. Something Israel cannot do.. Got it! My conclusion is that Jesus is the Messiah. The Old and New Testaments go hand and hand. Jesus was/is a Jew.. You don’t become any less Jewish when you receive Christ as your suffering servant. Everything that was said to come has and will be fulfilled in Him! Amen!
@@lonerdio2785Because of Yeshua, who proclaimed Adonai as the Almighty, so many across the world have been able to know of the Father and the Prophets.
😂 ok so Israel get crushed for Israel ? And Isaiah mentions in chapter 53 as we plural, not singular why use he singular and 5 words later use we plural ?
They are mentally retarded. I Am David. Their King. They denied my son. Jeremiah 23:5 Hosea 3:5 They murdered their only Saving Grace. Because their ego was more important. Unless I start seeing some apologies and repentance, the only thing they've been chosen for his to be made an example of. You'd think they would have learned the first time. They still owe Moses an apology. The only reason he had to stay forty years in the desert was cuz of those morons
You say that Israel had to suffer for the sins of Israel, but we say that Yeshua had to suffer for the sins of Israel and the sins Gentiles equally. For The Almighty made us all and loves us.
the servant in Isaiah 53 is the nation of Israel not Jesus. Isaiah 41:8-9 But you, Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, the offspring of Abraham, my friend; you whom I took from the ends of the earth, and called from its farthest corners, saying to you, “You are my servant, I have chosen you and not cast you off.” Isaiah 44:1 But now hear, O Jacob my servant, Israel whom I have chosen! Isaiah 44:21 Remember these things, O Jacob, and Israel, for you are my servant; I formed you; you are my servant; O Israel, you will not be forgotten by me. Isaiah 45:4 For the sake of my servant Jacob, and Israel my chosen, I called you by your name, I name you, though you do not know me. Isaiah 48:20 Go out from Babylon, flee from Chaldea, declare this with a shout of joy, proclaim it, send it out to the end of the earth; say, “The Lord has redeemed his servant Jacob!” Isaiah 49:3 And he said to me, “You are my servant, Israel, in whom I will be glorified.” No Jesus mentioned
@@jamilbiotech91 the last three verses of Isaiah 52 includes together with chapter 53 verse 14 say :Just as there were many who were appalled at him- his appearance was so disfigured beyond that of any human being and his form marred beyond human likeness- Isaiah 52:14 NIV the verse mentions the servant has a human likeness which a person 'Jesus' is not a nation
@@proorno1062 Check your Hebrew on 52:14. Make sure to look at the annotations as well. It should read. Many who were appalled at YOU, not Him. Fact check me. This means the kings are speaking in the present tense to Israel not to some future Messiah. Do you disagree with God when he says Israel is the servant?
@@jamilbiotech91 if the verse did not mention about appearance I would have considered since the verse specifically mentions about the servant's appearance i guess God definitely means a human servant who is Messiah
Isaiah says: "...and we hid our faces from him...". Israel hid his face from Israel? He also says "... for the transgressions of my people he was striken...". Who is "my people" and why are they not part of Israel then? It does not make any sense
So, God uses the nations to punish Israel to "save" the nations? This makes no sense. Every other time the nations abuse the Jews in the Tanakh (even when the Jews are allowed to be exiled because of their sins) God *punishes* the nations for their abuse of "the apple of his eye". I don't agree with your conclusion because of that fact.
Without our Passover Lamb in *EXODUS 12* , we all face judgement. As also warned in Deuteronomy 18:15-19 if we reject his message in *ISAIAH 52:6-7 & ISAIAH 53:1-53:12* - The suffering servant of ISAIAH 53 is the *ARM of the LOrd* the *Prophet like Moses* and we are told to *Hear Him* (Deuteronomy 18:15-19 & ISAIAH 52:6-7, 53:1) *ISAIAH 64:6* All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away. *PSALM 22:29* All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and *none can keep alive his own soul* *ISAIAH 59:6* Their webs will not become garments, Nor will they cover themselves with their works; Their works are works of iniquity, And the act of violence is in their hands. *JESUS IS THE PASSOVER LAMB ~ EXODUS 12 & ISAIAH 53:7* - If you reject his message, you face judgement as per Deuteronomy 18:18-9. No works can save you - only the Passover Lamb
the servant in Isaiah 53 is the nation of Israel not Jesus. Isaiah 41:8-9 But you, Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, the offspring of Abraham, my friend; you whom I took from the ends of the earth, and called from its farthest corners, saying to you, “You are my servant, I have chosen you and not cast you off.” Isaiah 44:1 But now hear, O Jacob my servant, Israel whom I have chosen! Isaiah 44:21 Remember these things, O Jacob, and Israel, for you are my servant; I formed you; you are my servant; O Israel, you will not be forgotten by me. Isaiah 45:4 For the sake of my servant Jacob, and Israel my chosen, I called you by your name, I name you, though you do not know me. Isaiah 48:20 Go out from Babylon, flee from Chaldea, declare this with a shout of joy, proclaim it, send it out to the end of the earth; say, “The Lord has redeemed his servant Jacob!” Isaiah 49:3 And he said to me, “You are my servant, Israel, in whom I will be glorified.” No Jesus mentioned
@@Mesfin887 Who did God identify as the servant in the verses I quoted and when does God explicitly say my Servant is Jesus? Do not use inferences because we can infer anything. I provided several verse were God calls Israel his servant. Where does he call Jesus his servant?
Yes they are. You are the one lying. I Am David. Stop being such a racist. You are so determined to be racist that you're willing to lose all Grace over it. Is it really that important to you? You might want to think about your answer. Psalm 122:5 Rev 3:9 Only reason you even think such nonsense is because the Queen of Sheba respected my son's wisdom. Solomon not Jesus.
@@lonerdio2785news flash!! The most high said he would send his son to save his people and put them back in their land not the Americans in the Britain’s in 1948 and he said when they get in the land it will be peace they’ve been fighting since they’ve been there stop the cap you don’t know the Bible put my history book down I am a biblical Israelite they don’t fit the That the most high put on his people they never been put into slavery by the weight of slay ships like the most high said it would happen they were never sold to their enemies like the most high said it would happen you don’t know the Bible you know religion
Imagine lying so hard to trust scripture lmao. “But he was pierced for our transgressions” Oh yeah!!! Israel is being pierced for our transgressions. Stop lying. The ending of the prior chapter points out your lie
Israel is crushed for the transgressions of the Israelites, not pierced that's a Christian lie. The Servant is constantly identified as Jacob/Israel throughout Isaiah
@tomasrocha6139 LOL “Israel is crushed for the transgression of the Israelites”???? LOL??? That does in first place for the worst defenses against Christians in Isaiah 53. Explain to me what Israel is
Why would Israel be an offering to their own sin ? Makes no sense pal. So I’m going to kill u to clean ur own sin ? 🤦🏼♂️ 😂 it’s funny cuz Isaiah might hv thought 💭 he was talking about Israel too cuz he wouldn’t have written it other wise cuz he wouldn’t understand. Gods ways are higher than our ways.
@@matthewcooper4248 But how? You have to read the preceding verses to know who the servant is. Do you disagree with the word of God? the servant in Isaiah 53 is the nation of Israel not Jesus. Isaiah 41:8-9 But you, Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, the offspring of Abraham, my friend; you whom I took from the ends of the earth, and called from its farthest corners, saying to you, “You are my servant, I have chosen you and not cast you off.” Isaiah 44:1 But now hear, O Jacob my servant, Israel whom I have chosen! Isaiah 44:21 Remember these things, O Jacob, and Israel, for you are my servant; I formed you; you are my servant; O Israel, you will not be forgotten by me. Isaiah 45:4 For the sake of my servant Jacob, and Israel my chosen, I called you by your name, I name you, though you do not know me. Isaiah 48:20 Go out from Babylon, flee from Chaldea, declare this with a shout of joy, proclaim it, send it out to the end of the earth; say, “The Lord has redeemed his servant Jacob!” Isaiah 49:3 And he said to me, “You are my servant, Israel, in whom I will be glorified.” No Jesus mentioned
The speaker on the video has ran himself into a dilemma. His explanation doesn't have proper Exegesis when reading these two verses: Isaiah 53:4-5 NASB Surely our griefs He Himself bore, And our sorrows He carried; Yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken, Smitten of God, and afflicted. [5] But He was pierced through for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities; The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him, And by His scourging we are healed. This is a perfect illustration of the Propitiation and Atonement of the Messiah Jesus on the cross. Ask yourself this question: How can Israel saved Israel, when Israel has broken God's Covenants? Repent and seek the Messiah Jesus for redemption and eternal life in Him as the Scriptures teaches!
There is no basis of eternal damnation in Judaism. Judaism teaches Teshuva- not only repentance but RETURN. It was prophesied by Moshe that Israel would be exiled but would be redeemed. Deuteronomy 30.
@samchapa4203 Your partiality to the text of Scripture shows your lack of full mention concerning the Sin-Bearing Servant in Isaiah 53. Here's a better explanation than your comment about Teshuvah: Source: Jewish Learning "In the Jewish tradition, repentance is called teshuvah , a Hebrew word translated as “returning.” One of the Hebrew words for sin is chet, which in Hebrew means “to go astray.” Thus the idea of repentance in Jewish thought is a return to the path of righteousness. Teshuvah can be done at any time, but the High Holiday season, and Yom Kippur especially, is considered an especially auspicious time for it. The process of repentance, as laid out by Maimonides, includes three stages: confession, regret and a vow not to repeat the misdeed. The true penitent, Maimonides says, is the one who finds himself with the opportunity to commit the same sin again yet declines to do so. Prayer, charity and fasting are also said to help one win forgiveness." How can this apply when there's no Temple today in Jerusalem? How can your "repentance" be made under a broken covenant because of Israel and Judah disobedience to YHWH and the Laws of Moses? Your efforts about Israel being the Person identified by the prophet Isaiah fails in comparison to Messiah Jesus as prophesied by the Law and the Prophets. (Deuteronomy 18:15-18 and John 5:45-47) I'll ask you the question personally... Can Israel save Israel from their sins against YHWH?
@@samchapa4203But Israel isn't redeemed yet most of the Israelites that reside in modern day Israeli are only from the tribe of Judah or Benjamin, and the bible said that all of the tribes would be redeemed.
The dilemma is. You don’t read Hebrew In Hebrew it says, he suffered BECAUSE of our sins. Who is speaking in this verse. You need to go back before the chapter.
No. I always lean towards what makes sense. And what is clear. That passage is talking about a man. And if your argument would have been that it was describing a different man then maybe, but it’s a prophecy about someone. I believe it’s Jesus.
So imagine God coming down to earth to fulfill a prophecy only to be told by a rabbi “no they are not talking about you but Israel” Isaiah prophesied about you (29:13) “These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is based on merely human rules they have been taught.”
Perfect. Let's actually examine that, because there's two servants in Isaiah. "And now the Lord says, he who formed me from the womb to be his servant, to bring Jacob back to him; and that Israel might be gathered to him- for I am honored in the eyes of the Lord, and my God has become my strength- he says: “It is too light a thing that you should be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob and to bring back the preserved of Israel; I will make you as a light for the nations, that my salvation may reach to the end of the earth.” Isaiah 49:5-6 Who is the second servant in Isaiah who will gather Israel? The servant in Isaiah 53 cannot be Israel, because Israel never took on the sins of the nations.
Hi. It's really weird that you guys can't connect the dots. Maybe Jesus father should help you out. Isaiah 22:22 Psalm 2:7 Rev 3:7 John 3:16 Jeremiah 23:5 Hosea 3:5 Rev 5
@@BanahIsraelWithout our Passover Lamb in *EXODUS 12* , we all face judgement. As also warned in Deuteronomy 18:15-19 if we reject his message in *ISAIAH 52:6-7 & ISAIAH 53:1-53:12* - The suffering servant of ISAIAH 53 is the *ARM of the LOrd* the *Prophet like Moses* and we are told to *Hear Him* (Deuteronomy 18:15-19 & ISAIAH 52:6-7, 53:1) *ISAIAH 64:6* All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away. *PSALM 22:29* All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and *none can keep alive his own soul* *ISAIAH 59:6* Their webs will not become garments, Nor will they cover themselves with their works; Their works are works of iniquity, And the act of violence is in their hands.
Yahuah the father sent his son Yahusha to reconcile us back to the father! His right hand Mercy to the returned lost sheep)! It's not a state it's the people who follow YAHUSHA!
I am so sick of this weak argument. Israel cannot bear the sins of anyone, the subject of Isaiah 53 is one singular man, in verse 3 it says we - Israel - hid our faces from him, Israel cannot be an offering for sin as it says in verse 10. A plain and honest reading of the chapter makes it clear it's a prophecy about Messiah.
Isaiah 49 says the servant is named Israel, he will come and save the nation of Israel and unite the tribes of Jacob. So yes Isaiah 53 is about the messiah, you can say it’s about “israel” but that’s fine because the servant- messiah is named Israel.
Romans 11:25 KJVS - For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Whenever anyone qouts the bible to you to direct you away from Judaism, It doesn't sound right ask where is it and than read the context read the whole book if needed. Remember if the Jewish bible is a precursor to another religion (aka calling God a liar) than the religious/ orthodox Jews would have followed that path a long time ago. Always ask why
@@4thOfJulyMamasApplePie you are pushing a Christian lie. When a jew hears 'rabbinic Judaism' a jew hears dutironimy 1:16And I commanded your judges at that time, saying, "Hear [disputes] between your brothers and judge justly between a man and his brother, and between his litigant.17You shall not favor persons in judgment; [rather] you shall hear the small just as the great; you shall not fear any man, for the judgment is upon the Lord, and the case that is too difficult for you, bring to me, and I will hear it." And that tradition of having wise men who know the law guide the flock has not changed and had been that way since 13300 BCE when you use the same word you clearly ment that the law/ religion had changed when it has not. If you are unhappy with your relationship with God dont blame the jew.
@@NalieJoy it not the same the Christian's old testament is a not so good a times translation of the Jewish tanach and it moves the order of the books. The Christian bible contradicts the Jewish bible and for that reason the Christian bible holds no hold on the Jewish mind (rabbi tovia singer has many YT videos on that subject)
Without our Passover Lamb in *EXODUS 12* , we all face judgement. As also warned in Deuteronomy 18:15-19 if we reject his message in *ISAIAH 52:6-7 & ISAIAH 53:1-53:12* - The suffering servant of ISAIAH 53 is the *ARM of the LOrd* the *Prophet like Moses* and we are told to *Hear Him* (Deuteronomy 18:15-19 & ISAIAH 52:6-7, 53:1) *ISAIAH 64:6* All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away. *PSALM 22:29* All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and *none can keep alive his own soul* *ISAIAH 59:6* Their webs will not become garments, Nor will they cover themselves with their works; Their works are works of iniquity, And the act of violence is in their hands.
Isaiah 53:12 (For that reason I will assign him a portion among the many, And he will apportion the spoil with the mighty,Because he poured out his life even to death And was counted among the transgressors; He carried the sin of many people And he intercede for the transgressors. How could this verse refer to the Jewish people in a whole (I see no way people could take or bare the sins of others for we are imperfect beings with sins of our own, futher more this verse shows how the Jews denied that Jesus(servant of God) was the messiah and stoned him for blasphemy, killed him at the stake , and refused him :(
And the SERVANT of ISAIAH 53 is referred to as the ARM of the Lord who intercedes and REDEEMS Israel and the *I AM HE* in ISAIAH 52:6-7 giving the report in ISAIAH 53:1. They are so lost. Without our Passover Lamb in *EXODUS 12* , we all face judgement. As also warned in Deuteronomy 18:15-19 if we reject his message in *ISAIAH 52:6-7 & ISAIAH 53:1-53:12* - The suffering servant of ISAIAH 53 is the *ARM of the LOrd* the *Prophet like Moses* and we are told to *Hear Him* (Deuteronomy 18:15-19 & ISAIAH 52:6-7, 53:1) for our own works will not save us 👇 *ISAIAH 64:6* All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away. *PSALM 22:29* All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and *none can keep alive his own soul* *ISAIAH 59:6* Their webs will not become garments, Nor will they cover themselves with their works; Their works are works of iniquity, And the act of violence is in their hands.
Doesn‘t make sense for several points: 1. Israel is innocent and never did wrong (V.9)?? The whole Tora and Tanach is the story of an rebellious nation doing evil things. 2. Israel dies in order to save the nations?? So God uses antisemitism (nations kill Israel) to save those antisemites?? What great morality of God… 3. Isaiah is describing from chapter 40-54 something, what many scholars call „Isaiahs exodus“. He often times copies the phrases from the exodus. New exodus = new Moses (Messiah)!
It’s amazing to me how Jewish people, specifically “scholars,” forget their own history. This is unequivocally speaking to the Servant spoken of by Moses. When Messiah finally was born into the world, it was a time when the Jews had been politically and physically passed around like a peace pipe. They suffered at the hands of the Egyptians for 400 years, and Moses lead them out. When Jesus was born, they Jews suffered again 400 years from Malachi to Jesus. Jesus is just like Moses! But Jesus said specially that Jews chose to be blind, and they are to this day. They walk around with veils over their hearts because they rejected not just a prophet this time, but Messiah himself. Think, Jews. Think! When has God EVER taken this long to act? ……or maybe you missed something.
Hmm i think it can be both Israel and the Messiah. What about Talmud Sanhidrin 98b, Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi the question 'what is the Name of Messiah?' He is Messiah the Leper and Quotes Isaiah 53:4 "And the Rabbis say: The leper of the house of Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi is his name, as it is stated: “Indeed our illnesses he did bear and our pains he endured; yet we did esteem him injured, stricken by God, and afflicted” (Isaiah 53:4). " -Sanhidrin 98b.14 In the same way the Kohen Hagadol represents the people so also the Messiah can represent the people. Couldn't the passage be both Israel and the Messiah?
Unbelieving Jews: "Isaiah 53 is easy to understand and refers to Israel, not Jesus." Also unbelieving Jews: "Don't read or ask questions about Isaiah 53. It's the forbidden chapter and might make you believe in Jesus." You can't make this stuff up. Read Isaiah carefully, from beginning to end. Chapter 53 is clearly about Jesus.
I believe we are in the times of the third temple. I pray that when a person declares that they are Messiah, that you look back at scripture and the prophecy of a false Christ and realise that Jesus was the true Messiah. Be blessed 🙏
God's temple is in heaven and so is his throne! *ISAIAH 6:1* And the SERVANT of ISAIAH 53 is referred to as the ARM of the Lord who intercedes and REDEEMS Israel and the *I AM HE* in ISAIAH 52:6-7 giving the report in ISAIAH 53:1. They are so lost. Without our Passover Lamb in *EXODUS 12* , we all face judgement. As also warned in Deuteronomy 18:15-19 if we reject his message in *ISAIAH 52:6-7 & ISAIAH 53:1-53:12* - The suffering servant of ISAIAH 53 is the *ARM of the LOrd* the *Prophet like Moses* and we are told to *Hear Him* (Deuteronomy 18:15-19 & ISAIAH 52:6-7, 53:1) for our own works will not save us 👇 *ISAIAH 64:6* All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away. *PSALM 22:29* All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and *none can keep alive his own soul* *ISAIAH 59:6* Their webs will not become garments, Nor will they cover themselves with their works; Their works are works of iniquity, And the act of violence is in their hands. *JESUS IS THE PASSOVER LAMB ~ EXODUS 12 & ISAIAH 53:7* - If you reject his message, you face judgement as per Deuteronomy 18:18-9. No works can save you - only the Passover Lamb
No it doesn't you are incorrect..Isaiah 49.5 clearly states "and now the Lord says, he who formed me in the womb to be his servant to bring Jacob BACK to him and gather Israel BACK to himself ." And again he says in verse 6 " is it to small a thing fir you to be my servant TO RESTORE THE TRIBES OF JACOB AND BRING BACK THOSE OF ISREAL I have kept. I will ALSO make you a light to the GENTILES that you will bring my salvation to the ends of the earth "
Huh, so what do you make of the Babylonian Talmud thqt states that it is a Messianic Passage??? That the Jews for Centuries understood that it was speaking of the Messiah and not the Nation of Israel like you claim
Broo its like way back the jew thought of this and make a book, i think it more then this then meets the eye how can everything in the past is for the jews what about me am not jew. Like we are human right, where do just other humans stand. It can not just be yea jew and so on
Oh i see, the jews died for eachothers/other sins? Well yeah, every prediction of the Messiah can now be debunked by saying that it was speaking about Israel. This kinda sounds stupid
You don't know God, you don't believe in God. The word is body of truth of God. It is bread for the man. You are not eating that. You are keep that in shelf, then talking about unnecessary things. The servant of God is not a mith. It will come. otherwise God is nothing , Jesus is nothing, Israel is nothing
Wrong. I am the servant of God. I am the annointed one. Did you forget Isaiah 49? How about Isaiah 22:22 Israel has to repent first. Have you heard the parable of the wicked tenants? Jesus is my Son. Or did you conveniently forget that prophecy? Psalm 89 Psalm 132
How can those who deny vicarious atonement revealed in Isaiah 53 "... for the transgression of my people he was striken" claim they themselves are the ones who provide vicarious atonement? The suffering servant is Israel. The Messiah King Israel is Israel. The people are simply subjects of the King, members of His Kingdom, that is, those who receive Him. Such claims that it applys to you are narcissistic and blasphemous.
No you’re forgetting about Jacob, who already called dibs on the name Israel. He’s the suffering servant who reincarnates returning just as his vision promised. See Isa 48. That’s the only place he addresses the nation saying the ‘people who call themselves after my servant Israel’ Stop playing dumb and ignoring that verse. It’s not about Jesus either but it does describe the coming messiah perfectly. He will be hated because his own mother will have Palestinian blood. Their messiah is already living like a Palestinian and Isa is describing a people filled with disgust for that man. Every word of it will be true of the coming messiah who will have children and after suffering, has seen the light. You’re not the suffering servants. The Palestinians however fit the descriptions.
And the SERVANT of ISAIAH 53 is referred to as the ARM of the Lord who intercedes and REDEEMS Israel and the *I AM HE* in ISAIAH 52:6-7 giving the report in ISAIAH 53:1. They are so lost. Without our Passover Lamb in *EXODUS 12* , we all face judgement. As also warned in Deuteronomy 18:15-19 if we reject his message in *ISAIAH 52:6-7 & ISAIAH 53:1-53:12* - The suffering servant of ISAIAH 53 is the *ARM of the LOrd* the *Prophet like Moses* and we are told to *Hear Him* (Deuteronomy 18:15-19 & ISAIAH 52:6-7, 53:1) for our own works will not save us 👇 *ISAIAH 64:6* All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away. *PSALM 22:29* All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and *none can keep alive his own soul* *ISAIAH 59:6* Their webs will not become garments, Nor will they cover themselves with their works; Their works are works of iniquity, And the act of violence is in their hands. *JESUS IS THE PASSOVER LAMB ~ EXODUS 12 & ISAIAH 53:7* - If you reject his message, you face judgement as per Deuteronomy 18:18-9. No works can save you - only the Passover Lamb
@@ChristianGirlwhoLovesJesus Isa 53 is about one person who has more than one life. He does die just as described the first time. But he returns and is the second witness specifically sent to the Jews. Read it again and consider the Palestinian life of being disrespected and cast into their prisons without trials. It’s very easy to see he could be Palestinian when he returns. Look at the rest of the chapter and read the Septuagint that includes a very important line saying after he suffers, he then sees the light and then makes his life a sacrifice. The MT conveniently blotted that out because it doesn’t fit all Israel. But it also doesn’t exactly describe Jesus either who only suffered over a weekend and we have no idea if he was actually numbered with the criminals like your typical Palestinian these days. Hence my theory he’s half Palestinian and the messiah is sure to be crucified again. He’s both of the two witnesses sent to Israel rejected the first time. They have one more chance. And they’re just about out of time. Daniel’s 70 week count started a second time in 1535 by Ottomans. 62 weeks later Jerusalem recaptured and reunited with Israel. End of 69 weeks, sign in Virgo on 9/22/2017 and the embassy move described in Daniel 11. So the end of 70 weeks later this year. And just in time, all hell breaks loose and Israel being exposed as much worse than suffering servants. All their dirty little secrets are now being broadcast to the world. Michael is already here coming just as it says after that embassy move. God is already judging the nations and starting with Israel as it should be. Maybe they can teach the nations how to repent. It’s what they’re meant to do.
@@ChristianGirlwhoLovesJesus It’s just like where Jesus read part of Isa and stopped mid sentence. This passage is like that. Yes it’s about Jesus but not just that life. When he returns, he suffers again. This time, it pleased god to cause him to suffer. This restores the reputation of god. This time he literally goes to prison innocent and is numbered. This time he’s hated his entire life and betrayed by his own parents and friends like it says in Zachariah. This time, he really must have children. His lineage passes to Shiloh. He lives a long life after he suffers. By his knowledge the rest of us find heaven. Your problem is someone decided that ‘clouds’ in Daniel must be literal even though the rest of the book isn’t. You aren’t expecting a human Jesus at all. A casual reading of Isa 53 all the way through doesn’t fit Jesus. He was just the first witness cut off but when he returns, he’s the second.
Ok so at first ok and then wait it says in verse 10 his life will be an offering for sin He has to be related to king david He has to be tribe of Judah
Also why would Israel hide its face from Israel ? 🤦🏼♂️ it says he has no beauty for one to desire but God says Israel is beautiful like a women for others to desire. Oh, contradiction. 🤦🏼♂️ this is easy
Very good analysis brother. JESUS(YESHUA) is the true Messiah.
So it’s just a coincidence that the “Suffering Servant” happens to endure everything Jesus accomplished in His coming.. including dying for the sins of the entire world. Something Israel cannot do.. Got it!
My conclusion is that Jesus is the Messiah. The Old and New Testaments go hand and hand. Jesus was/is a Jew.. You don’t become any less Jewish when you receive Christ as your suffering servant. Everything that was said to come has and will be fulfilled in Him! Amen!
he made G'd known to all nations? liar! he didn't fulfill any messiah's prophecy!
@@lonerdio2785According to Rambam he did
@@lonerdio2785Because of Yeshua, who proclaimed Adonai as the Almighty, so many across the world have been able to know of the Father and the Prophets.
@@pepepena1937 please quote where he said that.
@@t.rexking441 if you watch the rabbi's videos,you'll know how christianity if fake.
😂 ok so Israel get crushed for Israel ? And Isaiah mentions in chapter 53 as we plural, not singular why use he singular and 5 words later use we plural ?
They are mentally retarded.
I Am David.
Their King.
They denied my son.
Jeremiah 23:5
Hosea 3:5
They murdered their only Saving Grace.
Because their ego was more important. Unless I start seeing some apologies and repentance, the only thing they've been chosen for his to be made an example of.
You'd think they would have learned the first time. They still owe Moses an apology. The only reason he had to stay forty years in the desert was cuz of those morons
All ofIsrael would be Goliath's b**** if not for me. They repaid me by murdering my Son.
You say that Israel had to suffer for the sins of Israel, but we say that Yeshua had to suffer for the sins of Israel and the sins Gentiles equally. For The Almighty made us all and loves us.
Israel did not intercede for tragressors
the servant in Isaiah 53 is the nation of Israel not Jesus.
Isaiah 41:8-9
But you, Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, the offspring of Abraham, my friend; you whom I took from the ends of the earth, and called from its farthest corners, saying to you, “You are my servant, I have chosen you and not cast you off.”
Isaiah 44:1
But now hear, O Jacob my servant, Israel whom I have chosen!
Isaiah 44:21
Remember these things, O Jacob, and Israel, for you are my servant; I formed you; you are my servant; O Israel, you will not be forgotten by me.
Isaiah 45:4
For the sake of my servant Jacob, and Israel my chosen, I called you by your name, I name you, though you do not know me.
Isaiah 48:20
Go out from Babylon, flee from Chaldea, declare this with a shout of joy, proclaim it, send it out to the end of the earth; say, “The Lord has redeemed his servant Jacob!”
Isaiah 49:3
And he said to me, “You are my servant, Israel, in whom I will be glorified.”
No Jesus mentioned
@@jamilbiotech91 the last three verses of Isaiah 52 includes together with chapter 53 verse 14 say :Just as there were many who were appalled at him- his appearance was so disfigured beyond that of any human being and his form marred beyond human likeness-
Isaiah 52:14 NIV
the verse mentions the servant has a human likeness which a person 'Jesus' is not a nation
@@proorno1062
Check your Hebrew on 52:14. Make sure to look at the annotations as well.
It should read. Many who were appalled at YOU, not Him.
Fact check me.
This means the kings are speaking in the present tense to Israel not to some future Messiah.
Do you disagree with God when he says Israel is the servant?
@@jamilbiotech91 if the verse did not mention about appearance I would have considered since the verse specifically mentions about the servant's appearance i guess God definitely means a human servant who is Messiah
@@jamilbiotech91 Isaiah 53 is not the only scripture which talks about the Messiah's suffering there are many if you want to know then I will reply
False teaching
Isaiah says: "...and we hid our faces from him...". Israel hid his face from Israel? He also says "... for the transgressions of my people he was striken...". Who is "my people" and why are they not part of Israel then? It does not make any sense
So, God uses the nations to punish Israel to "save" the nations? This makes no sense.
Every other time the nations abuse the Jews in the Tanakh (even when the Jews are allowed to be exiled because of their sins) God *punishes* the nations for their abuse of "the apple of his eye".
I don't agree with your conclusion because of that fact.
God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear; unto this day
Misleading interpretation. Do not try to justify why the Jews deny that Jesus was the actual Messiah. tsk tsk tsk!
People cannot pay for their own sins, but only a person of no sin - Jesus
"But he was pierced for our transgressions" if it talks about Israel as a nation, who is the "we" and "our", talking about the rejection of the Jesus.
Without our Passover Lamb in *EXODUS 12* , we all face judgement. As also warned in Deuteronomy 18:15-19 if we reject his message in *ISAIAH 52:6-7 & ISAIAH 53:1-53:12* - The suffering servant of ISAIAH 53 is the *ARM of the LOrd* the *Prophet like Moses* and we are told to *Hear Him* (Deuteronomy 18:15-19 & ISAIAH 52:6-7, 53:1)
*ISAIAH 64:6*
All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away.
*PSALM 22:29*
All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and *none can keep alive his own soul*
*ISAIAH 59:6*
Their webs will not become garments, Nor will they cover themselves with their works; Their works are works of iniquity, And the act of violence is in their hands.
*JESUS IS THE PASSOVER LAMB ~ EXODUS 12 & ISAIAH 53:7* - If you reject his message, you face judgement as per Deuteronomy 18:18-9. No works can save you - only the Passover Lamb
Then who pays for Isreal's Sin😅
the servant in Isaiah 53 is the nation of Israel not Jesus.
Isaiah 41:8-9
But you, Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, the offspring of Abraham, my friend; you whom I took from the ends of the earth, and called from its farthest corners, saying to you, “You are my servant, I have chosen you and not cast you off.”
Isaiah 44:1
But now hear, O Jacob my servant, Israel whom I have chosen!
Isaiah 44:21
Remember these things, O Jacob, and Israel, for you are my servant; I formed you; you are my servant; O Israel, you will not be forgotten by me.
Isaiah 45:4
For the sake of my servant Jacob, and Israel my chosen, I called you by your name, I name you, though you do not know me.
Isaiah 48:20
Go out from Babylon, flee from Chaldea, declare this with a shout of joy, proclaim it, send it out to the end of the earth; say, “The Lord has redeemed his servant Jacob!”
Isaiah 49:3
And he said to me, “You are my servant, Israel, in whom I will be glorified.”
No Jesus mentioned
@@jamilbiotech91clearly talking about Jesus but you are wrong
@@Mesfin887
Who did God identify as the servant in the verses I quoted and when does God explicitly say my Servant is Jesus?
Do not use inferences because we can infer anything.
I provided several verse were God calls Israel his servant.
Where does he call Jesus his servant?
Jewish people in Israel are not the biblical Jews stop lying
you wanna know more about their book then them? cut the nonsense!
Yes they are. You are the one lying.
I Am David.
Stop being such a racist.
You are so determined to be racist that you're willing to lose all Grace over it. Is it really that important to you?
You might want to think about your answer.
Psalm 122:5
Rev 3:9
Only reason you even think such nonsense is because the Queen of Sheba respected my son's wisdom. Solomon not Jesus.
@@lonerdio2785news flash!! The most high said he would send his son to save his people and put them back in their land not the Americans in the Britain’s in 1948 and he said when they get in the land it will be peace they’ve been fighting since they’ve been there stop the cap you don’t know the Bible put my history book down I am a biblical Israelite they don’t fit the That the most high put on his people they never been put into slavery by the weight of slay ships like the most high said it would happen they were never sold to their enemies like the most high said it would happen you don’t know the Bible you know religion
Yes they are
@@mrepix8287 prove it with scripture
Imagine lying so hard to trust scripture lmao. “But he was pierced for our transgressions” Oh yeah!!! Israel is being pierced for our transgressions. Stop lying. The ending of the prior chapter points out your lie
Israel is crushed for the transgressions of the Israelites, not pierced that's a Christian lie. The Servant is constantly identified as Jacob/Israel throughout Isaiah
@tomasrocha6139 LOL “Israel is crushed for the transgression of the Israelites”???? LOL??? That does
in first place for the worst defenses against Christians in Isaiah 53. Explain to me what Israel is
@@BK-rl5lw Israel is the nation of the Israelites that got crushed by Nebuchadnezzar
@tomasrocha6139 What is a nation?
Why would Israel be an offering to their own sin ? Makes no sense pal. So I’m going to kill u to clean ur own sin ? 🤦🏼♂️ 😂 it’s funny cuz Isaiah might hv thought 💭 he was talking about Israel too cuz he wouldn’t have written it other wise cuz he wouldn’t understand. Gods ways are higher than our ways.
In your view, who is God calling the servant throughout Isaiah?
@@jamilbiotech91When you look at the life of Jesus it can only be Him.
@@matthewcooper4248
But how?
You have to read the preceding verses to know who the servant is. Do you disagree with the word of God?
the servant in Isaiah 53 is the nation of Israel not Jesus.
Isaiah 41:8-9
But you, Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, the offspring of Abraham, my friend; you whom I took from the ends of the earth, and called from its farthest corners, saying to you, “You are my servant, I have chosen you and not cast you off.”
Isaiah 44:1
But now hear, O Jacob my servant, Israel whom I have chosen!
Isaiah 44:21
Remember these things, O Jacob, and Israel, for you are my servant; I formed you; you are my servant; O Israel, you will not be forgotten by me.
Isaiah 45:4
For the sake of my servant Jacob, and Israel my chosen, I called you by your name, I name you, though you do not know me.
Isaiah 48:20
Go out from Babylon, flee from Chaldea, declare this with a shout of joy, proclaim it, send it out to the end of the earth; say, “The Lord has redeemed his servant Jacob!”
Isaiah 49:3
And he said to me, “You are my servant, Israel, in whom I will be glorified.”
No Jesus mentioned
The speaker on the video has ran himself into a dilemma. His explanation doesn't have proper Exegesis when reading these two verses:
Isaiah 53:4-5 NASB
Surely our griefs He Himself bore, And our sorrows He carried; Yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken, Smitten of God, and afflicted.
[5] But He was pierced through for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities; The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him, And by His scourging we are healed.
This is a perfect illustration of the Propitiation and Atonement of the Messiah Jesus on the cross.
Ask yourself this question:
How can Israel saved Israel, when Israel has broken God's Covenants?
Repent and seek the Messiah Jesus for redemption and eternal life in Him as the Scriptures teaches!
There is no basis of eternal damnation in Judaism. Judaism teaches Teshuva- not only repentance but RETURN. It was prophesied by Moshe that Israel would be exiled but would be redeemed. Deuteronomy 30.
@samchapa4203
Your partiality to the text of Scripture shows your lack of full mention concerning the Sin-Bearing Servant in Isaiah 53.
Here's a better explanation than your comment about Teshuvah:
Source: Jewish Learning
"In the Jewish tradition, repentance is called teshuvah , a Hebrew word translated as “returning.” One of the Hebrew words for sin is chet, which in Hebrew means “to go astray.” Thus the idea of repentance in Jewish thought is a return to the path of righteousness.
Teshuvah can be done at any time, but the High Holiday season, and Yom Kippur especially, is considered an especially auspicious time for it. The process of repentance, as laid out by Maimonides, includes three stages: confession, regret and a vow not to repeat the misdeed. The true penitent, Maimonides says, is the one who finds himself with the opportunity to commit the same sin again yet declines to do so. Prayer, charity and fasting are also said to help one win forgiveness."
How can this apply when there's no Temple today in Jerusalem?
How can your "repentance" be made under a broken covenant because of Israel and Judah disobedience to YHWH and the Laws of Moses?
Your efforts about Israel being the Person identified by the prophet Isaiah fails in comparison to Messiah Jesus as prophesied by the Law and the Prophets. (Deuteronomy 18:15-18 and John 5:45-47)
I'll ask you the question personally...
Can Israel save Israel from their sins against YHWH?
@@samchapa4203But Israel isn't redeemed yet most of the Israelites that reside in modern day Israeli are only from the tribe of Judah or Benjamin, and the bible said that all of the tribes would be redeemed.
The dilemma is. You don’t read Hebrew
In Hebrew it says, he suffered BECAUSE of our sins.
Who is speaking in this verse.
You need to go back before the chapter.
IT IS JESHUA HIMSELF
As it mentions He, Him, His dozens of times to have to have some serious pretzel logic to come to that conclusion.
No. I always lean towards what makes sense. And what is clear. That passage is talking about a man. And if your argument would have been that it was describing a different man then maybe, but it’s a prophecy about someone. I believe it’s Jesus.
So imagine God coming down to earth to fulfill a prophecy only to be told by a rabbi
“no they are not talking about you but Israel”
Isaiah prophesied about you (29:13)
“These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is based on merely human rules they have been taught.”
Every human being with a sane mind can see only Jesus fulfill this prophecy .
Perfect. Let's actually examine that, because there's two servants in Isaiah.
"And now the Lord says, he who formed me from the womb to be his servant, to bring Jacob back to him; and that Israel might be gathered to him- for I am honored in the eyes of the Lord, and my God has become my strength- he says: “It is too light a thing that you should be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob and to bring back the preserved of Israel; I will make you as a light for the nations, that my salvation may reach to the end of the earth.”
Isaiah 49:5-6
Who is the second servant in Isaiah who will gather Israel? The servant in Isaiah 53 cannot be Israel, because Israel never took on the sins of the nations.
Hi.
It's really weird that you guys can't connect the dots.
Maybe Jesus father should help you out.
Isaiah 22:22
Psalm 2:7
Rev 3:7
John 3:16
Jeremiah 23:5
Hosea 3:5
Rev 5
The word “Me” indicated that its ISAIAH! can u read?
@@BanahIsraelWithout our Passover Lamb in *EXODUS 12* , we all face judgement. As also warned in Deuteronomy 18:15-19 if we reject his message in *ISAIAH 52:6-7 & ISAIAH 53:1-53:12* - The suffering servant of ISAIAH 53 is the *ARM of the LOrd* the *Prophet like Moses* and we are told to *Hear Him* (Deuteronomy 18:15-19 & ISAIAH 52:6-7, 53:1)
*ISAIAH 64:6*
All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away.
*PSALM 22:29*
All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and *none can keep alive his own soul*
*ISAIAH 59:6*
Their webs will not become garments, Nor will they cover themselves with their works; Their works are works of iniquity, And the act of violence is in their hands.
The mental gymnastics here is something to behold.
Isiah 8:14
"He will be a stone that causes men to stumble, a rock that makes them fall. "
Jesus came for the people
Yahuah the father sent his son Yahusha to reconcile us back to the father! His right hand Mercy to the returned lost sheep)! It's not a state it's the people who follow YAHUSHA!
What about the Virgin birth or was that assed in later?
I am so sick of this weak argument. Israel cannot bear the sins of anyone, the subject of Isaiah 53 is one singular man, in verse 3 it says we - Israel - hid our faces from him, Israel cannot be an offering for sin as it says in verse 10. A plain and honest reading of the chapter makes it clear it's a prophecy about Messiah.
Israel bears its own sins, the servant is repeatedly identified as Jacob/Israel throughout Isaiah
Isaiah 49 says the servant is named Israel, he will come and save the nation of Israel and unite the tribes of Jacob.
So yes Isaiah 53 is about the messiah, you can say it’s about “israel” but that’s fine because the servant- messiah is named Israel.
Read again. It is talking about the messiah which is mentioned earlier.
Romans 11:25 KJVS - For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Whenever anyone qouts the bible to you to direct you away from Judaism, It doesn't sound right ask where is it and than read the context read the whole book if needed.
Remember if the Jewish bible is a precursor to another religion (aka calling God a liar) than the religious/ orthodox Jews would have followed that path a long time ago.
Always ask why
They did, modern rabbinical Judaism is a response that came around circa 700 AD
@@4thOfJulyMamasApplePie you are pushing a Christian lie. When a jew hears 'rabbinic Judaism' a jew hears dutironimy 1:16And I commanded your judges at that time, saying, "Hear [disputes] between your brothers and judge justly between a man and his brother, and between his litigant.17You shall not favor persons in judgment; [rather] you shall hear the small just as the great; you shall not fear any man, for the judgment is upon the Lord, and the case that is too difficult for you, bring to me, and I will hear it."
And that tradition of having wise men who know the law guide the flock has not changed and had been that way since 13300 BCE when you use the same word you clearly ment that the law/ religion had changed when it has not. If you are unhappy with your relationship with God dont blame the jew.
@@NalieJoy it not the same the Christian's old testament is a not so good a times translation of the Jewish tanach and it moves the order of the books. The Christian bible contradicts the Jewish bible and for that reason the Christian bible holds no hold on the Jewish mind (rabbi tovia singer has many YT videos on that subject)
@@cohenlabe1 Deuteronomy* believe what you will. The temple is gone.
@@4thOfJulyMamasApplePie dutironimy 13 check that out
Without our Passover Lamb in *EXODUS 12* , we all face judgement. As also warned in Deuteronomy 18:15-19 if we reject his message in *ISAIAH 52:6-7 & ISAIAH 53:1-53:12* - The suffering servant of ISAIAH 53 is the *ARM of the LOrd* the *Prophet like Moses* and we are told to *Hear Him* (Deuteronomy 18:15-19 & ISAIAH 52:6-7, 53:1)
*ISAIAH 64:6*
All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away.
*PSALM 22:29*
All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and *none can keep alive his own soul*
*ISAIAH 59:6*
Their webs will not become garments, Nor will they cover themselves with their works; Their works are works of iniquity, And the act of violence is in their hands.
Isaiah 9:6 7:14 Zachariah 12:10 Daniel 7:10-13.... Please explain???
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Isaiah 53:12 (For that reason I will assign him a portion among the many, And he will apportion the spoil with the mighty,Because he poured out his life even to death And was counted among the transgressors;
He carried the sin of many people And he intercede for the transgressors.
How could this verse refer to the Jewish people in a whole (I see no way people could take or bare the sins of others for we are imperfect beings with sins of our own, futher more this verse shows how the Jews denied that Jesus(servant of God) was the messiah and stoned him for blasphemy, killed him at the stake , and refused him :(
So un true Israel is given a feminine pronoun the suffering servant is a he
And the SERVANT of ISAIAH 53 is referred to as the ARM of the Lord who intercedes and REDEEMS Israel and the *I AM HE* in ISAIAH 52:6-7 giving the report in ISAIAH 53:1. They are so lost.
Without our Passover Lamb in *EXODUS 12* , we all face judgement. As also warned in Deuteronomy 18:15-19 if we reject his message in *ISAIAH 52:6-7 & ISAIAH 53:1-53:12* - The suffering servant of ISAIAH 53 is the *ARM of the LOrd* the *Prophet like Moses* and we are told to *Hear Him* (Deuteronomy 18:15-19 & ISAIAH 52:6-7, 53:1) for our own works will not save us 👇
*ISAIAH 64:6*
All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away.
*PSALM 22:29*
All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and *none can keep alive his own soul*
*ISAIAH 59:6*
Their webs will not become garments, Nor will they cover themselves with their works; Their works are works of iniquity, And the act of violence is in their hands.
Out of Egypt I've called my son, Israel is masculine here and many other times.
Doesn‘t make sense for several points:
1. Israel is innocent and never did wrong (V.9)??
The whole Tora and Tanach is the story of an rebellious nation doing evil things.
2. Israel dies in order to save the nations?? So God uses antisemitism (nations kill Israel) to save those antisemites?? What great morality of God…
3. Isaiah is describing from chapter 40-54 something, what many scholars call „Isaiahs exodus“. He often times copies the phrases from the exodus. New exodus = new Moses (Messiah)!
It’s amazing to me how Jewish people, specifically “scholars,” forget their own history. This is unequivocally speaking to the Servant spoken of by Moses. When Messiah finally was born into the world, it was a time when the Jews had been politically and physically passed around like a peace pipe. They suffered at the hands of the Egyptians for 400 years, and Moses lead them out. When Jesus was born, they Jews suffered again 400 years from Malachi to Jesus. Jesus is just like Moses! But Jesus said specially that Jews chose to be blind, and they are to this day. They walk around with veils over their hearts because they rejected not just a prophet this time, but Messiah himself. Think, Jews. Think! When has God EVER taken this long to act? ……or maybe you missed something.
Amin!
Mention about what Isaiah said about virgin birth and it clearly says it is all about jesus christ
Hmm i think it can be both Israel and the Messiah.
What about Talmud Sanhidrin 98b, Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi the question 'what is the Name of Messiah?' He is Messiah the Leper and Quotes Isaiah 53:4
"And the Rabbis say: The leper of the house of Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi is his name, as it is stated: “Indeed our illnesses he did bear and our pains he endured; yet we did esteem him injured, stricken by God, and afflicted” (Isaiah 53:4). "
-Sanhidrin 98b.14
In the same way the Kohen Hagadol represents the people so also the Messiah can represent the people. Couldn't the passage be both Israel and the Messiah?
Unbelieving Jews: "Isaiah 53 is easy to understand and refers to Israel, not Jesus."
Also unbelieving Jews: "Don't read or ask questions about Isaiah 53. It's the forbidden chapter and might make you believe in Jesus."
You can't make this stuff up. Read Isaiah carefully, from beginning to end. Chapter 53 is clearly about Jesus.
Jacob/Israel is repeatedly identified as the servant throughout Isaiah, it's not Jesus.
I believe we are in the times of the third temple. I pray that when a person declares that they are Messiah, that you look back at scripture and the prophecy of a false Christ and realise that Jesus was the true Messiah. Be blessed 🙏
God's temple is in heaven and so is his throne!
*ISAIAH 6:1*
And the SERVANT of ISAIAH 53 is referred to as the ARM of the Lord who intercedes and REDEEMS Israel and the *I AM HE* in ISAIAH 52:6-7 giving the report in ISAIAH 53:1. They are so lost.
Without our Passover Lamb in *EXODUS 12* , we all face judgement. As also warned in Deuteronomy 18:15-19 if we reject his message in *ISAIAH 52:6-7 & ISAIAH 53:1-53:12* - The suffering servant of ISAIAH 53 is the *ARM of the LOrd* the *Prophet like Moses* and we are told to *Hear Him* (Deuteronomy 18:15-19 & ISAIAH 52:6-7, 53:1) for our own works will not save us 👇
*ISAIAH 64:6*
All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away.
*PSALM 22:29*
All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and *none can keep alive his own soul*
*ISAIAH 59:6*
Their webs will not become garments, Nor will they cover themselves with their works; Their works are works of iniquity, And the act of violence is in their hands.
*JESUS IS THE PASSOVER LAMB ~ EXODUS 12 & ISAIAH 53:7* - If you reject his message, you face judgement as per Deuteronomy 18:18-9. No works can save you - only the Passover Lamb
No it doesn't you are incorrect..Isaiah 49.5 clearly states "and now the Lord says, he who formed me in the womb to be his servant to bring Jacob BACK to him and gather Israel BACK to himself ." And again he says in verse 6 " is it to small a thing fir you to be my servant TO RESTORE THE TRIBES OF JACOB AND BRING BACK THOSE OF ISREAL I have kept. I will ALSO make you a light to the GENTILES that you will bring my salvation to the ends of the earth "
Huh, so what do you make of the Babylonian Talmud thqt states that it is a Messianic Passage??? That the Jews for Centuries understood that it was speaking of the Messiah and not the Nation of Israel like you claim
Broo its like way back the jew thought of this and make a book, i think it more then this then meets the eye how can everything in the past is for the jews what about me am not jew. Like we are human right, where do just other humans stand. It can not just be yea jew and so on
Oh i see, the jews died for eachothers/other sins?
Well yeah, every prediction of the Messiah can now be debunked by saying that it was speaking about Israel.
This kinda sounds stupid
This verse doesn't talk about jesus
Okay... But I don't believe you.
@@TheGuy_Adavize it talks about all of isreal. Isreal is the suffering servant. Not jesus
@@TheGuy_Adavize the scholarly consensus is that the suffering servent is all of isreal, not jesus
You don't know God, you don't believe in God. The word is body of truth of God. It is bread for the man. You are not eating that. You are keep that in shelf, then talking about unnecessary things. The servant of God is not a mith. It will come. otherwise God is nothing , Jesus is nothing, Israel is nothing
Wrong.
I am the servant of God.
I am the annointed one.
Did you forget Isaiah 49?
How about Isaiah 22:22
Israel has to repent first.
Have you heard the parable of the wicked tenants?
Jesus is my Son.
Or did you conveniently forget that prophecy?
Psalm 89
Psalm 132
You are so lost 😞 it's about the Lord Jesus man
You make no sense.
How can those who deny vicarious atonement revealed in Isaiah 53 "... for the transgression of my people he was striken" claim they themselves are the ones who provide vicarious atonement?
The suffering servant is Israel. The Messiah King Israel is Israel. The people are simply subjects of the King, members of His Kingdom, that is, those who receive Him.
Such claims that it applys to you are narcissistic and blasphemous.
No you’re forgetting about Jacob, who already called dibs on the name Israel. He’s the suffering servant who reincarnates returning just as his vision promised. See Isa 48. That’s the only place he addresses the nation saying the ‘people who call themselves after my servant Israel’ Stop playing dumb and ignoring that verse. It’s not about Jesus either but it does describe the coming messiah perfectly. He will be hated because his own mother will have Palestinian blood. Their messiah is already living like a Palestinian and Isa is describing a people filled with disgust for that man. Every word of it will be true of the coming messiah who will have children and after suffering, has seen the light. You’re not the suffering servants. The Palestinians however fit the descriptions.
And the SERVANT of ISAIAH 53 is referred to as the ARM of the Lord who intercedes and REDEEMS Israel and the *I AM HE* in ISAIAH 52:6-7 giving the report in ISAIAH 53:1. They are so lost.
Without our Passover Lamb in *EXODUS 12* , we all face judgement. As also warned in Deuteronomy 18:15-19 if we reject his message in *ISAIAH 52:6-7 & ISAIAH 53:1-53:12* - The suffering servant of ISAIAH 53 is the *ARM of the LOrd* the *Prophet like Moses* and we are told to *Hear Him* (Deuteronomy 18:15-19 & ISAIAH 52:6-7, 53:1) for our own works will not save us 👇
*ISAIAH 64:6*
All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away.
*PSALM 22:29*
All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and *none can keep alive his own soul*
*ISAIAH 59:6*
Their webs will not become garments, Nor will they cover themselves with their works; Their works are works of iniquity, And the act of violence is in their hands.
*JESUS IS THE PASSOVER LAMB ~ EXODUS 12 & ISAIAH 53:7* - If you reject his message, you face judgement as per Deuteronomy 18:18-9. No works can save you - only the Passover Lamb
Read Psalm 22:25-31 to see who the seed is
@@ChristianGirlwhoLovesJesus Isa 53 is about one person who has more than one life. He does die just as described the first time. But he returns and is the second witness specifically sent to the Jews. Read it again and consider the Palestinian life of being disrespected and cast into their prisons without trials. It’s very easy to see he could be Palestinian when he returns. Look at the rest of the chapter and read the Septuagint that includes a very important line saying after he suffers, he then sees the light and then makes his life a sacrifice. The MT conveniently blotted that out because it doesn’t fit all Israel. But it also doesn’t exactly describe Jesus either who only suffered over a weekend and we have no idea if he was actually numbered with the criminals like your typical Palestinian these days. Hence my theory he’s half Palestinian and the messiah is sure to be crucified again. He’s both of the two witnesses sent to Israel rejected the first time. They have one more chance. And they’re just about out of time.
Daniel’s 70 week count started a second time in 1535 by Ottomans. 62 weeks later Jerusalem recaptured and reunited with Israel. End of 69 weeks, sign in Virgo on 9/22/2017 and the embassy move described in Daniel 11. So the end of 70 weeks later this year. And just in time, all hell breaks loose and Israel being exposed as much worse than suffering servants. All their dirty little secrets are now being broadcast to the world. Michael is already here coming just as it says after that embassy move. God is already judging the nations and starting with Israel as it should be. Maybe they can teach the nations how to repent. It’s what they’re meant to do.
@@jerryhogeweide5288 ISAIAH 53 is about Jesus
@@ChristianGirlwhoLovesJesus It’s just like where Jesus read part of Isa and stopped mid sentence. This passage is like that. Yes it’s about Jesus but not just that life. When he returns, he suffers again. This time, it pleased god to cause him to suffer. This restores the reputation of god. This time he literally goes to prison innocent and is numbered. This time he’s hated his entire life and betrayed by his own parents and friends like it says in Zachariah. This time, he really must have children. His lineage passes to Shiloh. He lives a long life after he suffers. By his knowledge the rest of us find heaven. Your problem is someone decided that ‘clouds’ in Daniel must be literal even though the rest of the book isn’t. You aren’t expecting a human Jesus at all. A casual reading of Isa 53 all the way through doesn’t fit Jesus. He was just the first witness cut off but when he returns, he’s the second.
Ok so at first ok and then wait it says in verse 10 his life will be an offering for sin
He has to be related to king david
He has to be tribe of Judah
Your wrong he was speaki g of Yeshua
Israel bore sins of others ..?