How-To Properly Install Sprocket Drum & Clip On A Stihl Chainsaw - Teaching Apprentice Dave! -Video
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- How-To Properly Install Sprocket Drum & Clip On A Stihl Chainsaw - Teaching Apprentice Dave the right way!
In this video I catch Dave my apprentice "Red Handed" trying to install a sprocket drum retaining clip on a Stihl chainsaw the WRONG WAY!!
Watch as his mentor Donyboy73 shows him a few tricks of the trade to make this job as easy as it gets!
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Should have come across this video before. Because of the clip wasn't installed properly, the chain jumped the bar and stalled. I found the washer on the ground but I couldn't find the clip and the sprocket bearing. Great instructions and tips!
Dony is such a good teacher.
He is!
Socratic method in a way
That is a nice lesson about lineing up the notch on the clutch with the oil drive worm.
Glad it was helpful!
Good info for sure!
AGREED, its one of the best tips that I have seen Don provide on his channel to date.
I use needle nose pliers, but I usually put one tip of the pliers in the center hole of the crankshaft for even more stability.
Great tip!
Those clips do have wings for sure. The first time I had one literally disappear in an instant made me put safety glasses on every other time... Even when doing it the right way. I'm glad there are people on CZcams helping us learn the easy way in order to avoid learning the hard way. Thanks.
Great tips as usual Don! Very informative...
Thanks 👍 Steve!
Cheers Steve!
Steve is here? He caught me cheating on him! You guys are all great.
What about safety glasses?
...absolutely.....I learned this the hard way when I was young, dumb, and invincible and an e-clip smacked me in the
face....I realized that THAT could have been my eye....now I wear eye protection anytime I'm dealing with "spring-tension".. :)
yes for sure a must!
As I normally do not work on Chainsaws, I learned something new. I would of course research whatever I work on so I know about those things ahead of time. I already know about C- Clips and losing them in the lawn, they are never to be found, forcing a trip to the hardware store.
One of my mentors showed me his way of installing the "E" circlips. He had fashioned a "C" shaped tool from a copper pipe cap that allowed him to press them on and prevent the "flying across the room" mishap. He also insisted that the sharp edge of circlups face out toward the direction of resistance. That is, the clips are made with a press that leaves one side with rounded edges and the other with crisp or sharp edges. The sharp edge holds better, he said.
good idea!
You learn something new every day.
My master mechanic he was OPE and mathematics high School Teacher back in my high school day s he would get on my ass if I messed up do it right the first time!! He was a good teacher and instructor to me!! I know all today because of him!! May he R.I.P
Dony has a great wealth of experience
thanks buddy!
Use the spark plug / bar nut end side of the scrench to pop on the E clip.
Wrap your fist around the scrench with the screwdriver sticking out between your index and middle finger.
This method controls the E clip so it can't fly out. Taught to me by a US Wildland S-212 chainsaw fire fighter instructor
Write 50x on the blackboard “I will not cut corners.” :-)
haha yes!
If you were in private school, that would be perfectly legal. But you pull that stunt in public school, good luck explaining that form of punishment as legit lol.
Sincerely hope Dave knows how lucky he is to have such a knowledgeable teacher. Great detail Dony in your explanation of why those steps are important. Dave, stay humble and appreciative, as you already appear to be, and learn all you can. Thanks to you both for helping teach me, even if it’s from a far.👍
thanks Michael!
Hey Michael! Thanks so much for the kind words. I truly enjoy every moment I get at work with Don. Stay tuned for lots more!!!
This video was spot on for me. My husqvarna has the same clip, which I promptly sent into low earth orbit. I ordered 2 replacements original still gone. Thanks for all the great tips.
Dave you know better you were taught The proper way to work on small engines. 👍👍👍
Great job dave and donny thk u for sharing your knowledge guys be safe
Glad you enjoyed it
Hey EB! You too!!
Dave's a lucky guy. Great tip.
Bad Dave 😃👍
:(
Outstanding tip! Honestly, Don, I've said it before many times.....if you ever decide to hang your hat up from the business, you should be a teacher of this craft! 👍
thanks I appreciate it!
@@donyboy73 I am a lucky student!
I used to put the E-Clips on like Don with needle nose pliers. Then I learned a trick from a seasoned old ex logger who told me rarely they would have pliers out in the field. He sit the Clip on as Don does but instead of getting pliers, you use the 19mm/3/4" end of the scrench. You put the scrench over the E- clip and push down. The clip pops straight on and will not ever fly off into the abliss. So you can safely remove an E-Clips & install it with just the scrench. It surprised me how well it works and to this day I don't grab pliers anymore.
good idea!
I need to try this!
@@DavesSmallEngines Try it Dave but I assure you Don is your best teacher, he is truely a great small engine tech, I'm just a hack. I've buy those 8mm C/E-Clips buy the 10pack. I've shot my share off never to be found. My other tip is to buy quality E-Clips like OEM. The AM China ones deform and don't do there job as well.
Thanks for posting that. Not only could that retaining clip fly across the room. He lived another day without losing sight in one of his eyes. Was he wearing safety glasses while doing that? Even with the right tools you should still be wearing safety glasses. Those clips at times are no joke. Even taking piston rings out improperly can cause eye injuries. Some recoil springs as well if they slip out of the barrel and hit you in the face, so a safety shield should be worn as well.
Dave almost got a "time out "...haha, thumbs up!
Hahaha just about!
yes he must stand in the corner for 30 minutes!
@@DavesSmallEngines Or made to sing the Oscar Meier weiner song. LOL
Great vid guys, I almost made this mistake on a “junked” ms180 which was leaking bar oil and not oiling properly. The clutch felt funny when hand spinning after assembling it so I double checked it and realized. Obviously someone else had made that same mistake before because the oil gear spinner had rubbed a pinhole in the housing. The oil pump leaked and sucked air. I fixed the housing with JB weld and so-far-so-good
0nce Again.The Master.Brings forth.Simply Awesome.Richard.
thanks Richard!
Don't you worry about a thing, Master Don, shall make Padawon Dave into a Jedi soon.
@@stellarproductions8888 The force is strong with this one!
How many times has that happened to me. I keep extra eclips around for most saw models that I have. I pull off the sprockets and lube the sprocket bearing at least once a year with white lithium grease. The best way I have found to put the EClip back on is to insert it in the slot and snap it back in with a pair of regular kitchen pliers. The worst models are my saws with rim sprockets on my big Stihl saws. They have a real thick sprocket washer. The spur sprocket models have a thinner sprocket washer which makes the installation of the EClip much easier. I just put the jaws of the pliers on the top of the EClip and the other jaws on the crank and squeeze it down with the fingers of my free hand over the EClip, so if the pliers slip, I will not loose the clip. Silent prayer also helps.😀
The best way I have found of putting that c-clip back on is using the spark plug end of the scrench... line up the clip, put the socket over the clip and shaft and slide the socket to seat the clip. You will never lose the c-clip again and probably alway have a scrench handy when working on a saw, especially out in the field.
I will try this!
Agreed! I’ve never lost one using that method.
Many moons ago learned this & a rag semi gathered near the clip saves them funny words or the chase.
great tips don
Merci Dony. Moi aussi j'ai des petits trous dans le creux de ma main en essayant de poser une vlimeuse de clip de M. Merci bien.encore pour le truc.😊
Haven't you two rebuild that saw yet...!
not yet lol
Don't rush Don, art takes time, must soak in some of the sun's radiation, to provide that vitamin D, to make the magic happen.
Keeping the E clip from zinging across the room never to be seen, again, is tough. I use a little screwdriver to pry it out of its slot. I try to hold it down with my extra hand but it always seems to find a way to go flying and I end up having to buy a new one from my local Stihl dealer. They are size specific for every saw. I guess my loss rate is about 50%, no matter how careful I am taking it off. Putting it back on can also cause problems. I make sure I wipe a little white lithium grease into its slot in the crank. I use a pair of kitchen pliers to snap it back into its slot. Anything smaller and it could go zinging across the room. I guess my loss rate during reinstallation is less than 5% using this method. I listen for it to snap in and then I visually check it to insure it is installed correctly and tight in its slot. If not, I replace it with a new E clip.
Dave said, "am I in trouble again?". That was funny.
I usually take a flathead screwdriver and ball peen hammer and tap the c-clip or e-clip on. Needle nose pliers way better! Bam!
Right on
Hahaha I was caught!
Spot on donyboy 73 should give dave homework or dentension
...great video guys.....really enjoyed it......as another follower mentioned, safety glasses would be wise in this situation......I learned this the hard way
when I was young, dumb, and invincible and an e-clip smacked me in the face....I realized that THAT could have been my eye....now I wear eye
protection anytime I'm dealing with "spring-tension".. :)
good reminder Ken!
I hope I remember. Thanks guys!
If you launch a few clips into an unreachable spot... you will remember!
Thanks Dave for taking another one on the chin for us. Every body does it but I think old donyboy us a screwdriver in the hand, which would in turn send said screwdriver into the door and a short rest.
donyboy saved us a screwdriver in the hand. Edit for above. I should read my comments before I post them. Anyway, thanks Dony.
Hey Ralph - that's what I'm here for. I don't mind making a mistake or too and being caught if it helps someone else. Thanks for watching!
Young grasshopper!
That's me!
For me, Channel-locks work better when installing clips. Because you can widen their jaws, they can hold onto the clip flatter than using the needlenose making it less likely to fly off.
I’m sure glad you didn’t say “Damn it Dave”! Small engine repair is fun, but even the veteran mechanics make a few mistakes 🤭 Always learning something new.
we all make mistakes!
@@donyboy73 Some of us more than others!
I already knew this about the c clip removal and installation and about the notch in the drum for the oil pump on the stihl saws. But thyese are great tips for people that do not know about these tips. Great video guys keep them coming!
Right on! our goal is to help the beginner to the pro level!
@@donyboy73 Well I'M far from a pro. I guess I'm one of those Jack of most trades master of none. LOL
Cheers Nash! Good to see you back!
Best video point blank
Thanks Raymond!
Thank you so much!
Great tips, looks like y'all are having fun while teaching/learning! Stay safe, God bless
Come on Dave!
he knows better now! lol
YA DAVE, COME ON!
Great Stihl tip!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇨🇦
Nice explanation Don
OHHHHH........Dave was a bad boy!
Naughty naughty!
DAVES THE KIND OF GUY YOU TAKE THE TOOLS AWAY FROM
HEY CARY THATS NOT REALLY TRUE!
Dave is blessed to have a great teacher! Thanks for sharing, Don.
wow thanks Chad!
I am lucky!
And I am blessed to watch the dynamics between them both. This is real reality TV. Will Dave get caught next time with his finger up his nose digging for gold, stay tuned, you never know what Don will catch Dave doing next! :D
@@stellarproductions8888 haha lol
Easiest way to put that E-clip back on, use the ¾ socket on the tool. It keeps it contained and doesn't fly away never to be seen again.
good idea!
Gotta try this!
A real man removes and sets a retaining clip with his fingers. I am a real man. Ask dav
Who are you?
@@DavesSmallEngines lol
That is good information about how to put the sprocket drum back together and have that clip installed the easy way. I may have to work on that on my saw somewhere down the road. Thanks for sharing that information with us all as well and Dave must have really appreciated the help you gave him.
I did for sure!
Really been enjoying all the videos with you and Dave - you guys have a great dynamic haha. Thanks for sharing and teaching!
Cheers Josh!
thanks Josh!
When those clips do go flying they will usually end up in the most inaccessible part of your shop.
It's a law or something.
always!
And years later when they're found, it brings up the "what the heck is this" question.
@@MrJonrocker
Of course that's after you bought another one.
Those clips can injure your eye also, so I would recommend some kind of eye protection.👍🏻
Yes, like underneath my work bench, and somehow manage to completely avoid being picked up by a magnet, on the end of a telescoping rod. I swear, it completely defies the laws of physics.
perfect dony
Love Dave helps you alot get him like l said before to ask stupid questions and do stupid things so awesome 👌for learning great channel👍😀
Thanks Maurice!
Great job guys!
Cheers Raley!
thanks Raley!
My uncle called them Jesus clips, because when they flew off, you say, “Jeez, where’d it go?”
Nice job as always. Now Dave.....pay attention 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I am!!!!
@@DavesSmallEngines Nice👍👍👍
The blue clutch makes another appearance as the test subject... Great video! Snap rings aren't much better than E clips, even with snap ring pliers. Though maybe I just got too cheap a set of snap ring pliers. I'm always worried about stabbing my hand any time I misuse a screwdriver...
Great video thanks for the information!
Glad it was helpful!
I'm willing to bet that donny has a few beers and the friendly shit talking gets good lol
you wouldn't believe it lol
@@donyboy73 We have a good time eh?
@@DavesSmallEngines we sure do lol! and we will soon again!
I learned something new.
Again! Thank you 🙏
Dave look like he had his hand in the cookie jar
yes lol
Yummy
@@DavesSmallEngines chocolate chip cookies?
Your apprentice has a great attitude and is willing to take his oil pump shaming and make a bad situation through his good attitude into a productive learning experience. Lol
Thanks Sherman!
Those are the famed Jesus Clips. "Where the Geeeezee did that go" Little known procedural requirement right there! Thanks Dony.
No kidding Gord!
absolutely!
Thank you
You're welcome!
Thanks Don and Dave
You’re very welcome!
thanks for watching!
There is a c clip installation tool they work pretty good
Do you mean.... the back of a bar wrench?!!??!
Huge thanks D.B. !
Is there a special tool to use to keep the flywheel from turning when replacing the sprocket on a Husqvarna 455 rancher? Really don't want to use a rope in the spark plug hole.
Wish I have a mentor for all the questions I have about my 024 and 026 :(
Thank you for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Good tip.
Cool eh?!
Always informative ...
Cheers!
Thanks 👍
Dave does a good job playing dumb. haha
Dave actually used to do this. He has learned his lesson!
Great tip!! 👍
Best video yet ! Love the good old outro. Just seems natural to your video's!!
Thanks Louis!
thanks Louis, I alternate between the two outros
Is there another flat "washer" on 500i that we need to install on that sproket?
Hey! I learned something. At Dave’s expense.
Hey! That's what I'm here for!
I think Donny is enjoying teaching Dave. How many times does donny say Dave in his videos….
When I take off and put the clips back on , I just use the needle Nose pliers . I have found that’s the best way. Instead of using the flat head part of the screw driver.
That's what he shows!
Good grief! (Rushing out to check the clutch drum on my 026).
Well. I almost screwed up that task entirely. But I didn't. Thatnks to you guys.
hello from turkey
greetings from Canada!
The one “thumbs down” is proof that mankind will never be dufus-free.
I just think people get confused. Cheers Mark!
There's always one who'll ruin it for everybody.
Dave got it in. And got caught. These real-talk sessions are fun.
yes and Dave has a good sense of humor and takes the advice well!
Thanks Newman!
Hey I’m looking for a blown up MS 361
Now I have to check my Stihl for the notch. It's an old 009. It leaks bar oil when stored. Think it's related? Thanks for the info.
All chainsaws leak bar oil when stored... it's what they are best at!
Lesson learned! Thanks Don!!!
did you write "I will not take shortcuts" 50x on the blackboard?
I'm here before 1k likes. Nice vid this helped me 👍
Glad to hear!
Thanks for watching!
Great video guys! Keep up the good work.
Will do! Thanks for watching.
Thanks! Will do!
Another awesome video!
Thanks again Mark!
Hi don boy great videos. I have two homelike trimmers and both have two lines going from the fuel tank to the motor. One line for both trimmers are not in the hole of the tank. Do you think theses trimmers are worth saving. I can’t start either one. Any advice is appreciate
if you're fixing for yourself it might be if piston and cylinder are good
Hey Don.
I was wondering if you would do a local lawn tractor classified find. Get it into good repaired condition, and give a price break down on what you did to it and what you sold it for. I think it would be very informative, and it would boost your viewer and subscriber level a bunch.
Nathan
Hallo, kann ich fragen, ob der Kolbenzylinder der stihl 024av Sägemaschine für die 024super Maschine installiert ist.
Don cuts corners all the time he just doesn't show us...Right DONNY!!! Time is MONEY
lol