Should You Clip Your Bird's Wings? Pros & Cons!
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- čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
- I address the pros and cons of clipping a bird's wings and whether or not it hurts them. I get asked about it a lot so I hope this video helps!
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I have a gcc named Hunter, his wings are clipped although not by me. I have had him for almost a year now ever since he was a babe. The person I got him from clipped his wings so poorly that they never grew back. The one thing about conures is that they need to exercise their wings or they will have issues later on in life. I make sure my conure gets his exercise and thankfully he is a very happy and healthy bird! He is actually training to become a therapy bird and will go on walks with me outside which they also need because fresh air is better for them.
I do agree with both sides of the argument because I would let my birds usually fly, but I have had birds that will fly around and will hit a wall or window and I also had a cockatiel that bled from having long wings and flapping around the cage causing blood feathers. (The cage was huge)
But, birds are healthier when they use their muscles in their wings.
That being said everyone who is saying Tyler is being cruel to cut Mango's wings is wrong to judge, especially about the comments that birds are meant to fly. In the wild birds developed and evolved to fly to try and escape from predators. There are NO predators and reasons for his bird to fly and I'm sure even without flying Mango is living a very happy life with Tyler.
If you really have a problem because birds are meant to fly you can say the same thing about owning them because birds are meant to be free. We are lucky because 50+ years ago birds were not very domesticated and were almost always wild caught.
Anyway, I said my piece.
Also, byyyyyyyyye Tyler and Mango! My baby Hunter and I say hi!
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Amanda Perez you mean my bird hunter?
he got Mango at a store in Michigan called Chirping Friends
Well, at least Tyler did
Flock 2 Heaven
cool
2:24 omg mango yawned!!!
Wolf pack forever awww I saw it so cute
Wolf pack forever awww
Wolf pack forever aww... seriously it was sooooo sweeettt.... and mango was playing with Tyler's collar too... sooo CUTE..
Wolf pack forever you obviously don't have a bird lol mine yawn 100 times a day
Analia Marie because it's just a yawn
literally every living creature does it
i understand how lots of people think clipping a birds' wings are cruel, and how it may make them sad and upset. however, there are certain things you MUST do for an animal to keep it safe. one bird may be better off with clipped wings than another, it all depends on the bird. the bird may be bad/weak at flying and run into walls despite your best effort to bird proof the house. in that case, you need to clip the bird's wings to keep it from snapping it's neck on something and dying. but, your bird may be very good and coordinated at flying, and then there would be no need to clip the bird's wings since it is coordinated, and would rarely bump into things.
all in all, it just depends on the bird. a clip of the wings may be better for one bird than another. if you're a bird owner, wouldn't you want to do the best thing for your bird(s) in the long run?
CassavaCass Agreed. My room is super hot (perfect for a bird ahahaha) so I have to keep the ceiling fan on. Definitely a must to clip his wings.
Everyone needs to understand that birds are wild they are deigned and meant to be able to fly. Every bird can fly, they just need to learn. And to say that "oh i clip my birds wings to keep them safe" is just so dumb to say. If you can't provide free flight for your bird you shouldn't have a bird. They are WILD, I feel like every one who has or wants a bird needs to respect that. There is no denying that clipping is wrong. And if you say that training a bird to free flight is too much work or risky DONT GET A BIRD. I'm not trying to be rude, it's just not right. Take into account the adventures of roku( might have spelt it wrong) but that is a happy bird who had the freedom to fly, its such a shame to take that a way, not to mention selfish, and for what? Nothing...😔
If you are a bird lover then you would want a good, natural life for your birds. If you want what is best for your bird in the long run, you wouldn't clip for extremely obvious reasons. There is no reason to clip their wings unless you are taming a bird for the first time or they have medical issues. The over-used, "it's for their safety" is not valid and is ridiculous. I suggest you educate yourself or read Parrot Whisperer's comment, that addressed the things in your comment, before writing comments or owning animals. Clipping wings is cruel and unnecessary, there are no benefits for the animal unless for the previously stated situations.
priscilla cardenas u calling us dum? XD
the dum one is u you are not taking away their ability to fly they just can fly as long and some ppl haft to clip them for medical reasons or when u take them out of the cage untamed so they don't bang into windows. If you cut them to sort and make them bleed that's cruel. But thins comment is very rude and disrespectful not just for me but for all the other bird owners out here. Some birds like having their wings clipped.
I get that it's a safety issue, but honestly I feel like it is so gruel that better option is to not keep birds as a pet at all. It's almost like making a child crawl instead of running...Hurts my heart.
This is a long one lol but 2 years ago I bought my new budgie, he was 4 months old and I called him ChimChim (yes after Jimin lol). I had him for 1 month before I let him out the cage he knew how to step up inside the cage so I was going to start training him outside the cage. Prior to this I had never clipped any of my budgies wings. However I had started clipping my African greys wings because my house was made into an open plan house and my parents didn’t want him flying around the house. I took my budgie into my room so that I could keep him in one location. I left the cage door open for ages and eventually he came out but he started flying around the room banging into the walls and then he flew behind my tv any time I went to go get him he would start flying again. So I got a tshirt and grabbed him after he flew into the door and landed on the floor. After that I was too scared to get him out. I was planning on clipping his wings but I found that a lot of people seem to be against clipping smaller birds than big birds for some reason? So I was really on edge about it.
But 2 months later I came downstairs after the shower and I saw him on the floor of his cage walking in circles to the left... it was 11pm and all the local vets were closed I picked him up and he didn’t even struggle I then laid a blanket on the table and put him down and he wasn’t moving I just kept stroking him.. I didn’t know what to do, I was crying so much but my mum and sister was just laughing at me saying “it’s just a bird” I was holding him in a blanket for about an hour and then he had a seizure and squeak so loudly and passed away in my hand. I then went and told my mum and she just said “oh well you ain’t getting anymore” and I spent the whole week feeling so sad and randomly crying.
It’s been nearly 2 years now and I’ve decided to get another one but this time I’m going to clip its wings cause I am not going through that again 💔
I used to clip my birds' wings. i stopped doing it when they started their first big molt. their wing feathers are just so pretty and perfect i didn't want to ruin them. mine are also potty trained so they fly to their spots to poop. potty training my sun was really easy. i just love watching them fly it's way too cute. before i started letting them grow out their wings i would get what some call a juvenile cut which basically is they leave the feathers a little bit longer and don't cut as many so the birds can still fly short distances. it keeps them healthier and keeps their muscles in good shape. that way they can still fly but they can't bolt out the door the second you open it and they can't usually fly high enough to hit fans.
I just clipped my bird's wings and I got really sad while doing it for the same reason. They were just so beautiful. I dislike everyone's comments about it being cruel and people being horrible owners, but your comment is very kind and enlightening. Thank you for the post :)
Cailey Noelle DUDE YOUR COMENT REALLY HELPED ME MAKE A DECISION ON THIS I'm planning on getting a gcc pretty soon and was debating whether I should clip their wings or not, because I know that birds do need to exercise their wings in order to be healthy but at the same time I don't want the little guy getting hurt by running into ceiling fans or escaping outside! I didn't know there was a way to cut them so they can still exercise their wings but not fly away or high enough to hurt themselves. Thank you!
Cailey Noelle yeah my family has the people do a juvenile cut on the bird so they can fly but not be in that much danger
Can someone give me more detail about this juvenile cut? I can't find info online and I want to try this method for my bird
How did you train it so well? I’m thinking about getting into bird keeping and I really don’t know anything about this stuff :0)
When his teeth are brighter than your future... :'(
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Ruby Morgenstern his hair is brighter than my future
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You can bleach your future to.
5:45 when he swung his hand back and mango nearly fell😂😂
Bird trimming can hurt the bird if not done properly. Best to ask an Avian Vet or a professional. There really isn't a right or wrong answer for this issue because it will depend on your living condition :)
EverythingScience24 that's great! Birds are sensitive creatures and we shouldn't put them in any situation wherein they could be at risk :)
It depends completely on the bird. If the bird has some sort of medical reason then he or she should be clipped. That's the only reason a bird should be clipped. Other than that if you don't want a flying pet then don't get a bird.
marquise Washington have you even watched the video?
Raven Project so uh I can’t decide because I think my room is safe enough but i don’t want one of my little energetic budgies (Kermit) to fly into a wall or hurt himself but I want him to be healthy and happy flying around
EXACTLY, honestly i think clipping your birds wings properly can be great and letting them be full flight is great too. Like you saif it comes down to conditions and opinionsm
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I don't trim my birds wings because:
1) They are safe in my room
2) I trust my birds so i actually leave my door open ( not the outside door) to the whole second floor so they can go in my brothers or in my parents room and they know how to fly back
3) Im okey with cleaning the shit up but sometimes it gets annoying :D
Polīna Slivacka if I you do trim it will frustrate the bird so good idea not to trim the feathers!
@@iamaanimator813 and it can cause feather plucking
You can still potty train unclipped birds
@@yunathebirdlover896 my birds wings are clipped it doesn't cause them to pluck feathers
@@nuggetinevitable4971 why do u clip him
Pro: you can take your bird outside and about with you without worrying about losing them (keep a close eye anyway though) I switch between trimming my birds wings and then the next time they grow back I won't trim them because I do like him to be able to get some exercise
@Ines the only reason I want to clip my birds wings is because they have almost flown into walls and it makes me nervous I just want to train them and let them get used to their surroundings before they should go all out and run into walls and any other thing that could harm them
They can still fly a bit
please never take any bird outside without a harness or free flight training! Even clipped birds can fly if they are spooked or it is windy. The majority of birds that are lost and never found again are clipped.
Madison Regan thats true my girlfriends bird flew away and his wings were clipped
Same i have a ccc and i do that exact same thing except i don't actually bring him outside i guess cause im scared he could catch a breeze or be spooked. That's why i have a very good quality birdy backpack which i highly recommend
Good job, sensible advice. You must weigh the risks vs rewards. Allowing your bird full flight ability IS rewarding both for you and your parrot. But you are obligated to minimize those risks as much as possible. Teach them to recall to you. Never leave them unsupervised or with access to hazardous materials. Think 2 year old with wings. Ideally you would then harness train him and teach him how to fly outdoors. That's my goal.:)
Your cons to clippings are GREAT and there are so many
more. The only "pro" I can think of for clipping is for a medical
reason (flight causes heart or respiratory strain that they cannot
handle due to a medical condition...which sadly is almost always the
human's fault, albeit unintentional, to begin with.)
I hope you let Mango become flighted and yep, as a conure and with their metabolic rate, he can be potty trained! My 3 macaws are flighted. I
adopted them, 5th, 4th, and 3rd home, ages 4, 10 and 5. I also potty trained them all. It's super convenient so I hope you can potty train
Mango too. :~)
Rebuttals to the "pros" to clipping.
1. Clipping isn't needed to tame them. Establish trust and basic training from the start as babies or even adults. Having flight (the ability to leave a situation they do not like) will, in fact, strengthen your bond as it will prove that your training techniques are working if your bird was not tame before or if they were tame, it just confirms that your bird chooses to trust you and stay with you/a part of the situation.
2. A bird that has been able to fly and is raised in a home environment, can learn what windows and mirrors are and avoid them. They have to learn to avoid SO MANY more things in the wild. They are more than capable in captivity. As the owner, it is our job to keep them safe if we have a hot stove or a fan on, a door open, etc. A clipped bird, if it found itself on a hot surface and falling into a mirror fan or window, does not have the ability to get off of the surface or correct its path like a flighted bird does.
Also, if they get outside, a clipped bird CAN still fly especially if there is wind and unlike a flighted bird, it has no control, strength, or the skill to safely land in a tree or other object let alone descend and come back to you on the ground. So PLEASE be very careful if you take a clipped or flighted bird outdoors. Ironically, the majority of the birds on Parrot Alert 911 (escaped lost birds) are clipped.
you should clip both wings if you do...If you clip only one they can lose balance and they hate that
They also hate getting their wings clipped at all
Mangos so pretty!
When I first got my cockatiel he was flying round and smacked into my large livingroom window and yes he got hurt and was bleeding. After that I got his wings done at my local pet store. He is a rescue and was never out of his cage he was in so with his first time out he started flying. We keep his wings done for his safety only not to be mean towards him but to keep him safe. When he smacked the window he smacked it super hard. I felt so bad
I clip my bird's wings and they live a normal happy life. You can leave the very first flight feather and trim only the first few and they can still glide and come to you. Lemonlime sometimes even flies across the room. The only thing is they can't really go that far up if at all.
Mrs Nekomimi just don’t want to upset or cause my bird mental or physical harm. But I think I should clip his wings. I don’t want too cause he flys so we’ll. for some reason he’s the sweetest bird but hates our two children. Why?
@@Staticphase I mean you can train your bird and not clip their wings since they love flying
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why the hell would you clip them? flying is their thing smh
@@RPKD88 right? Why would anyone clip their wings? I hate the hubris of some people who think they know best by destroying another animals mental well-being. Do people honestly think that if a bird could talk it would thank us for taking away its ability to fly? It blows my mind. We don’t we just amputate peoples legs? Continue keeping animals in circuses, in small enclosures like sea world or pollute our planet some more? The hubris of some people is beyond me.
I know this has nothing to do with the video but I actually got my budgie to sleep on my cat and they grew a small bond and not hurt each other
monkeyadam 3 that is adorable sadley not the case with my cat and budgie I would not trust my cat with a potato 😂
Still supervise the bird when the cat is around cats have hunting extinct
I have a jenday conure and let his wings untouched. Ive tried both, and this is what works best for us. He has a lot of energy and it makes him exercice, i also love the fact that he learned the recall. Its awesome to raise your hand and have a parrot land on it.
I've personally never had my rainbow lori's wings clipped. The half of the house he lives in is bird safe and I just feel like he's a lot happier since we do have to leave the house for a while (work, uni etc.) I think if he couldn't fly he'd be pretty bored! We did have to get used to swooping though! (pretty easy considering magpies are a thing lol)
As I was watching this my bird flew into a wall like 3 times I think I might do it
DONT DO IT!
Do it
If you dont he can get serious damage to his brain and skull
@@mariasala1993 no, just supervise your bird and don't clip him
@@ssskits8747 youve obviously never had a bird before
I clipped mine today, feel really guilty. I will let them grow back though, I've just done it so they can get used to being handled without me having to stress them out by chasing them around the room
Same I got a new bird and it flies around the room and falls to the ground sometimes. But it wont let me pick it up so I'm probably going to trim the feathers.
I think I’m gonna get mines clipped for the same reason,
And I’ll let them grow back
I think I am going to do that , I had mine for 9 months now and he still isn't tame much and flies around , so imma clip it and make it grow back again , tho I dont want to really clip his beautiful feathers :(((
i have a flighted Conure but he is a very good flyer so he is quite safe. Ive had birds in the past who have hurt themselvs flying but it was because they had never really learned how to fly properly. I think birds can be happy when they cant fly but mine would hate not being able to fly, every bird is different i guess.
Mango is such a sweet boy! -A lot of people don't want the hassle of letting their bird fly around their house. note: look up bird potty training. our conure is half potty trained, so he poops less on the furnature. read up on bird body language to help potty train. it's less hard than you think :) In my opinion, it is best to let them get their excersize flying, it also helps their abdominal muscles to get a workout as well when they can fly :) please make sure to communicate via phone call if you are expecting company while free flight time so you can out your bird back in cage before door opens. close doors/windows promptly so you wont have an escaped bird outdoors. can also train them to put on an avian harness if you want to go for a walk with them outdoors. we got our conure from a hobby breeder. he only clipped our birds wings just for safety reasons when transporting him to a new place. if you decide to have your birds wings clipped, please go to a experienced avian vet, they will trim the flight feathers the correct way. when inexperienced people try it they can sometimes clip way too close and end up cutting the wing and messing with the feather follicles, then the feathers won't be able to grow back at all if you decide later that you want them to fly. also, other pets! you shouldn't let your bird be unsupervised with animals like dogs, cats, ferrets, etcetera. they are natural predators to birds! even if raised together since little, they can still have their hunting instinct activated when seeing a bird move around. I have experienced this in the past and had to keep my last parrot and past dogs separated because I saw hunting posture in two of them and wanted to be safe. also witnessed one of our dogs kill a chicken after 14 years of being around them :( Mammal (and human) saliva is toxic to birds because of bacteria. birds don't have the anitbodies necessary to fight off infection from cross contamination of spit from mammals. so no feeding your bird from your mouth or letting other pets be playful licking them. people think that mammals and birds get along, but tragedy could happen at any time! if you want your bird to have some free flight time, please put other animals in another room, or let them play in the yard for a bit while your bird explores the home. put down toilet seats, no cooking, make sure screens are secure on windows to eliminate some household dangers for them. also read up on how sensitive their respiratory system is. a lot of cleaning products/commercially made candles/air fresheners bother them and can lead to health issues or death.
Syrena Webb I don't have the patience yo read all of this 😫
You should never do it unless the bird has a disability that can harm them!
They LEARN not to crash into things, they need PATIENCE to trust, it is the OWNER'S responsibility to close windows
Yes! There is never a reason to clip a birds wings. I dont know why this is even a discussion.
Yes I needed this video!🙂
I clipped my birds' wings so I can tame them and so they can come out more. Once tame, I probably won't trim them once they're tame. I think it's safer to have them tamed before they can fly.
Here’s my opinion: I really want a bird, and like you said I would trim a birds wings in the beginning of owning them for a month or two. I would also keep on trimming his wings until he’s formed a strong bond, doesn’t poop everywhere, and when they just have a calmer demeanor. Other than that I would not clip their wings because I personally think them keeping their flight feathers is a tiny bit more ethical.
I clipped my budgies wings but I'm counting on only doing it once. (Joke on me, one of them begun molting in just a couple days) I'm only doing it to help taming them and help them know how to navigate the room they're in as they have just been crashing on shelves and books and doors and one of them is seriously so bad at flying. They can still fly quite a bit though sometimes I have to take them back to their cage because it's a bit high up but they seem to trust me a bit and would come to me when they want to go back. That being said it would be the first and last time I do so.
You should mention about the "blood wing". Birds have a part of their wing that if clipped wrong and it bleeds it could be very dangerous. It will bleed and possibly bleed out if not taken to an exotic vet clinic. I forget the actual name of the part of the wing but I'm sure if you look it up you could find some good info. I have 2 conures a green cheek conure and i believe the other is a pineapple conure. Both of them have their wings we refuse to get their wings clipped just for that reason, but they do get their nails trimmed (by me) and I also file down their beaks :)
Ashley Quick No such thing as a blood wing. It's a blood feather.
@@THEE.apples okay? And the point of it not the correct term asshole
I have the same kind of bird... with the same name... this popped up on my recommended.... I think god is hinting that I should subscribe
When you clip your birds wing will it ever grow back and they can fly again
Yes it will.
Michael Vo yes unless you cut it to short and mess up then they could never grow back again when I cut my birds wings they don't grow back till they molt their feathers my cockatiels wings are growing back now
yes they will
My first cockatiel I had would always fly and hit walls so hard he would sit there shaking and holding a wing out in pain. So I had him clipped to stop him from literally bashing into the walls. The next one I got is when I moved out and in my backyard I now have two bald eagles and a hawk who nest there right in the tree in my yard. I wouldnt want my bird to get loose by accident and end up as lunch...
My bird clips her own wings. Or should I say wing. She started it when her mate died. 😭But she is starting to bond with me now. And the feather plucking is subsiding. So maybe soon we can get to flight training but she's already way out of shape. so that's gonna take some time.
Victor Baker that is sad
Alyssa Parham It is and the part that hurts the most. Is I probably could have saved him. If I could have got them from the pet store sooner. But I didn't have $1,300 for two birds. Even if they are African Greys. $550.00 is a ok price. for my risk. I ended up spending $900 more on vet and cage. I hated putting money over the birds. but I had to. yes I did have $1,300. as I spent $1,400 total on them. but I did not have $2,200.And no I did not contribute to her cruelty to animals. As I waited until she was going out of business to buy the birds. She ended up losing a lot more than just the pet store in the lawsuit that followed. But I had nothing to do with that.
Omg the sorrow for you over here is drowning me 😚i send hopes
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Hi! Have you tried taking your bird to the vet? Plucking feathers is a very serious issue in birds and it can really harm them and make them ill... It would be a good idea to have the vet take a look on your bird, for her safety. I hope she gets better :)
I regret not clipping my birds wings. recently I was taking them back to their cage (which is outside) and they flew away... I was lucky enough to find one of them but I've lost the other one. :*(
William Kogoi same except I didn't find my budgie :(
Why was their cage outside
Why didn't you use a transport cage? Like common sense
I have a Pearl Lutino Cockatiel. He is in the process of being potty trained. I let his wings grow out sometimes, but I just started to get them trimmed do the trouble he's been causing for me, and himself. (He keeps getting stuck in my basketball net) So I have recently decided to get them trimmed. He is actually a VERY large bird for a cockatiel, so it's just best for him to get hiswings clipped regularly. For you other bird owners out there: If your bird is a troublemaker, you might want to trim them. If he is not, let them grow out for a while and see what he does, and how he takes the responsibility.
I have a one year old grey cockatiel named Flynn and when I first brought him home (4 months old) I had his wings clipped by the breeder I got him from. He could still fly short distances but I wanted them clipped for easier taming and training and also he was a baby so I didn't want him flying to places and me not able to get him down. I trained him how to do flight recall in two days after I got him and then I let him grow his wings out. He flies around my room and house all the time but he will come when he is called. He also has an aviator harness that I take him outside in :) I don't think clipping is cruel or anything - it's actually a beneficial thing for some parrot owners. My situation just allows me to keep Flynn flighted :)
_Please_ tell me that some of Mango's left primaries have simply grown out faster than his right and that you _did not_ allow some idiot to do a one wing clip on your bird! Balance is extremely important to birds, so important that they drop the same feather from both sides at around the same time when they're moulting. To clip only one wing unbalances the bird. It is one of *the most cruel* clips.
To *correctly* clip a birds wings, you *do not* clip anything *but* the primaries on *both wings,* and *only to the relative level of the secondaries,* following the shape of the wing. That is *no more* than 50% of the primary feathers. You should *not come anywhere near the coverts.* If the Primaries are cut at the level of the coverts, then the clip is *way too short* and the bird will plummet, not glide. Anything more severe than a correct clip *will* lead to a high risk of injury. A correct 'light' clip will allow the bird to glide at a downward angle. A severe clip will make the bird drop almost straight down. This can lead to a broken leg, keel or beak, if they fall from high enough or land wrong. The heavier the bird, the higher the risk of damage is. To clip a bird is to cripple a bird. A clipped bird is not as spatially aware as a flighted bird, their chest muscles atrophy, their lungs never work at full capacity because a birds lungs only work at full capacity in flight.
What the primaries actually do is act as the accelerator and the brakes while also providing lift. When a bird comes in to land they have to stall in the air above their intended perch, at which point they drop down onto it. Clipping removes the accelerator and prevents the bird from gaining altitude inside, however it also removes the brakes. This means that the only landing a clipped bird can make is a crash landing, no matter how good the clip is.
A lot of your listed pro's to wing clipping are false, avoidable by common sense or only partially true.
- It's true that clipping in and of itself is painless. However, the act is stressful, and removal of the ability to fly is extremely psychologically damaging to the bird. Their first instinct is, and will always be, flight, whether or not they are clipped. When a bird is startled, it takes flight. The moment it is airborne, the stress built up from being startled releases. Clipped birds cannot become airborne, so they add the stress from failing to take flight, to the stress from being startled and take far longer to calm down. It's true that many *adjust* to being flightless, but that's all it is, and they shouldn't have to, just for human convenience.
- Yes, a clipped bird *is* stationary. Which means they are forced to remain in a situation that they feel uncomfortable in. It means that they have to depend on their human for something as basic as mobility. Yes, they can jump off of their perch and try to run away if they are desperate, however, no bird that is already upset will voluntarily go somewhere as dangerous as the ground. That is not the foundation of a healthy relationship built on trust. If a flighted bird flies off inside, you *can* retrieve it, believe it or not.
- Curtains exist. As do shutters. And nets that you can put over the windows to slow a birds flight before it hits the window. There are options that do not involve crippling your companion.
- Two options here. 1. Do not have the ceiling fan on when your bird is out. 2. Do not allow your bird to be out where there is a ceiling fan. Create a sign to put on the doorknob of the room that the bird inhabits so that everyone in the house will know that the bird is out and to only open that door with caution.
- 1. Do not allow your bird into the kitchen. 2. Do not cook when the bird is out. Simple.
- A correctly clipped bird can still escape. The wind outside provides the lift that they cannot get without their primaries when inside. All clipping does is increase their risk of death by predation. A flighted bird has better chances of survival. Make sure all windows are closed before you let your bird out. And again, curtains. They exist. Do not allow your bird to be out in a room with a door that leads straight outside.
Basically, the most common reason people cripple their birds, is due to their own laziness and for their own convenience. I do not condone clipping except in the most dire and extenuating circumstances where it is truly for the birds benefit.
I agree. It doesn’t make sense to me to get an animal that can truly fly. If you are just going to clip it’s wings so it can’t. If you want a companion animal that doesn’t fly, don’t get a bird. Dogs, cats, rabbits, and reptiles are all animals that don’t fly but still make great friends.
@@marefaye6931 I clip my cockatiels wings and she is as happy as can be. I debated on letting them grow out but my tiel is much happier going for bike rides with me through the woods or going on trips or car rides. She can only fly small distances since her wings are trimmed but not fully clipped. If her wings were not clipped I’d have to leave her inside all the time and she prefers to go with me everywhere or hangout in the trees in my backyard. I’m tired of people acting like it’s cruel considering I don’t just leave my bird inside to sit all the time. I actually treat my bird like a companion that goes with me everywhere and she loves the adventure.
I 100% agree with you. I like taking my birds out to see things. Like walking around the block or a public park and if they sit on my shoulder it’s much easier and safer to do so.
little Mango is adorable and obviously loves you - I love bird people, thanks for your advice.
If you want to learn more about Parrots I think joining a Facebook group is the best thing to do as well as reading up and doing your own research, Bird Jungle is a great Facebook group full of information
I found my love bird (olympio) in a cage with a female love bird (odette) and I bought them both because they were already paired, but when I took them out and olympio tried to fly he just fell straight to the ground and odette flew perfectly. Olympio is way to quiet and he just always looks sad all the time and I think it's because he can't fly): I would never have had his wings cut but I do admit he's easy to train and pet. I can't wait until his wings grow in. I also feel like odette doesn't like him as much as she used to because all he does is sit quietly in his cage never doing anything and she's always flying around and making noise. hopefully this changes when his wings grow back)):
How is he doing now?
Bonnie Hwang he can fly and he chirps normally now but he won’t let me touch him whatsoever
It's always such a hard decision! I have one that can't fly now due to a wing injury, my two both used to fly around the house together just for fun. Charlie who can't fly now is also overweight because he can't get the exercise he's used to - just another thing to think about. Each parrot owner has to make their own decision, there is no right or wrong here.
Dianne Mulligan unrelated to your comment but whats up with your profile
My parakeet escaped the cage a couple of months ago and my chihuahua protected him and made sure he didn't get lost. My dog kept trying to bring me to the parakeet. My chihuahua wants to be friends with all my pets but in return they chase him
Great advice!!! I have had a cockatiel for a few weeks now and wondering if I should clip his wings this really helped😊
Was anyone watching mango like the whole time 😂
I’m a Mango-holic
I personally like both sides of the arguments. I agree birds need to fly sometimes to use their wing muscles, its basic natural exercise. Ripple (my not so bright bird) used to smack into windows and couldnt control turning. He got a "blood blister" under his beak and had to be in a hospital cage and wait out his beak to grow out. Kiwi, (my other more semi smart 😂 bird) can turn and fly perfectly, he screams while flying but its like a mixture of a scream and chirp of happiness. Lol. So. The only time I clip is in the summer during the hottest weeks and wintee during the colder months. In case whatever is to happen, someone leaves the door ornwindow open and they happen to fly out then it would be very hard to get them back when its below freezing or over 100 degrees. The rest of the year they get to free fly in a huge sunroom where they are monitored. So yes. I believe cutting the wings for safety issues but also giving them the exerxise they nees
really good and honest video on a really divisive topic!
just a quick comment for people interested: parrots can manage quite well with clipped wings as they have one of the most useful beaks for locomotion and are natural climbers. however many softbills (i.e. mynas, toucans, starlings) would be severely handicapped by this and it is not recommended for them even in captivity.
Where do you go to trim Mango's wings? I think I live near you and would love to find a trustworthy place to go to.
You can potty train them. It's not that hard
17825wb they can't control when they go. So in a way you can potty train them but not really. Some birds will go to their perch or cage before they go. Sometimes people can put them on their perch around the time they normally go and say poop or something and they will if they can.
Kate Herreid False. If the bird can fly they WILL learn to fly to the "potty spot" when they have to go. I have literally trained hundreds of rescues to do so.
My sun goes to her perch to poop everytime she needs, on her own. Just flies away from us to go poop. Only rarely drops somehwhere else than the cage or perch. Birds also learn to "hold it" so they can be with you maximum time.
Thank you for making this video, I'm going to be getting a Sun conure (Like mango) In August and I've been watching all of your videos so that I can really get a feel of what I'm getting myself into
You also don’t have to clip your bird’s wings all the completely. Or, that’s what I’ve heard. It’s possible to only clip a few feathers so they can still fly, but not into windows, or break their feathers in their cage. I don’t want to completely take away that ability, but I do want my birds to be safe. Please tell me if I’m wrong about partly clipping their wings! I want the best for my upcoming bird!
Oops I forgot to say goodbye to Mango. Goodbye Mango.
I cut my birds wings so I'll be easier to tame it
I have 4 Indian Ring necks, a Green Cheek Conure , a Pineapple Conure, a Dusky Conure, and a Cockatiel. I only clip the wings on the Conures and Cockatiels because they get frightened easily and are prone to flying away from whatever scares them and when you are in public you never know what that is until it's too late. So in my case, it all depends on how your bird acts around objects/animals in your home, if it gets scared easily, clip the wings to prevent it from flying away, if you have confidence (Know he doesn't fly everytime he gets scared) I wouldn't clip them.
I have a green cheek conure. His wings were clipped when I got him but I haven’t clipped them since (about a year and a half). He never learned to fly very well so I don’t have an issue with it. He only flies when startled. And he’s not potty trained but I always put him on a perch or garbage can when it’s time for him to go.
I clipped my birds wings and she can still fly because she's a parakeet
@@infiniteartworksstufff8205 you only clip like 4 or 5 flight feathers and only the top. They can still fly a bit but only for a few feet at a time. So they can get enough exercise. I'm working on recall training with one of my budgies who doesn't fly as well, I stay around 2 meters from the cage, she'll come to me and then go back and do it a few times until she's tired. The other one just flies around like nothing is happening but I can still safely take him back to his cage when I need to. And he doesn't crash into walls and fall down like he used to. I'm going to clip them anymore though after they molt so it's just temporary
I was crying when i cliped my ducks wings it reminded me of paulie
Ahahahahahahahahaahahah MANGO POOPED ON TYLER'S SHIRT in the beginning of the video WTH I wonder what's Tyler's reaction when he figures it out XD
It’s the the ‘equivalent to a hair cutt’, It’s actually the equivalent to cutting off someone’s hands. You almost completely disable two limbs on the animal for their entire life. They need the wing for more than escaping predators unlike some in comments are claiming!!They need them to exercise and live JUST LIKE YOU NEED YOUR HANDS. Fact-There is no form of clipping g where the wings grow back you, That is a marketing scam. Birds are very smart animals, The level of cruelty unaddressed here to disabling their main limbs for life has me shook. It’s no different then cutting off the toes of puppies just to keep them as pets. I really hope some eyes open up here.
ALWAYS KEEP THEIR WINGS CLIPPED!!!!! I LOST MY BEST FRIEND BECAUSE I CLOSED THE DOOR ON HIM (HE WAS FLYING AROUND)
Or simply pay attention to your bird when he is flying around
It's your fault for not taking care of your bird
It's cruel to clip birds wings. It takes away an instinctive behavior. My bird was so proud of himself when his feathers grew in and he could fly. If it is so dangerous to let a bird fly , you shouldn't have one.
17825wb as he said, an opinion. Personally, I thinks its fine.
17825wb personally my birds wings are not clipped but I am thinking of getting them clipped because she does have a habit of flying into walls and I worry about her safety. And I don't think that's such a cruel thing to do if she could potentially harm herself
17825wb Totally agree. It is NEVER acceptable to clip wings. If you can't keep your bird safe indoors and make sure they don't escape you shouldn't own a bird.
Rachel S No worries your bird will learn where the walls are. I've own hundreds of rescues who also went frantic and hit walls. Simple fixes: Window doesn't have a screen? Get a screen. Cooking? Keep them in the cage during those times. Hauling in groceries? Keep them in the cage at that time. Don't like bird shit? Don't get a bird.
Tyler Greenwood but none of those "fixes" actually fix my problem. My bird is in my room so there's no real issue of her escaping my house or getting hurt by hot surfaces, she's just a really crappy flyer and will run into walls. Plus she's not a rescue bird so it's not like she's being frantic, she literally can't fly well. The only way would be to never let her out which is worse than clipping her wings.
I have lots of experience in clipping wings as i always clip my hens wings to prevent them from flying ober the gate and going to the road. Theyve never done that but they have made several attepts that couldve been successful if my family members didnt warn me that they where trying to fly out. A basic rule in feather clipping is that you neber cut any feathers on the wing other than the primary flight feathers. Also, dont cut any higher than the other feathers around the primary
To me, the reason for keeping a bird as a pet is to have the representation of freedom in your home. If you need to clip their wings to keep them from leaving or to like you. You probably shouldn't own a bird.
NO absolutely not, ANYONE watching this PLEASE DO NOT buy a bird with clipped wings or clip their wings!!! its an awful practice just like docking the ears or tails on dogs, its something done because an owner down want to deal with a bird that can fly because they are "harder to control" but if this is your outlook on birds YOU SHOULDN'T OWN ONE!!! birds fly, flying is their only for of transportation and exercise and therefore happiness. you wouldn't cut two legs off a dog because "he's easier to care for when he doesn't move as much". you would be very happy if someone cute your feet off so that you'd be easier to care for would you? you couldn't run or play you'd just have to sit wherever someone put you, just like your bird if you clip its wings. thats no life.
PLEASE READ THIS IF YOUR THINKING OF GETTING A BIRD, AND DO NOT GET ONE IF YOU CANT HANDLE IT THE WAY IT IS NATURALLY .
docking a dog's ears and tail serves more benefits than just for aesthetics. if the dog is a hunting dog, it can help significantly with avoiding injury, as floppy ears and a long tail are easy for prey to grab onto.
also their flying feathers grow back. a dog's tail/ears/legs do not.
Well I Adopted A bird with clipped wings. And They did that so they dont escape when they are being handled So please Calm down. The people there were very professional.
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Permanently cutting of the limbs of on animal (docking and cutting ears) cannot be compared to clipping a birds wings. Bird don't feel it, it can actually serve good benefits, and their wings will grow back
Wow, so "they don't escape when being handled" so they can be handled against their will. How would you like it if someone chained you so you could be handled easily? But they say, they love you and it's for your safety you know, so it should be fine, right?
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Who are you replying to?
If me, I think you should never trim the wings so much so that they can't fly at all (that is very cruel) They should still be able to fly small heights and glide so they can escape from dogs or cats or such, and they won't lose their natural ability. It is better for the bird in some cases.
And no, you shouldn't do it so the bird can't escape being handled, only if it is safer and better for the bird.
I just got my budgie let's get 12 likes and also at least. 19 subs plss
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Leogamer 558 yea dont just go around asking for likes and subs
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Leogamer 558 no to bad
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I think that before clipping wings you should assess the situation like
Is this the final option?
How can I "substitute" their wing exercise?
And like you said Tyler do I have other pets or an unsafe environment which wings can save him from?
Tyler is literally my favourite youtuber of ll....I’m not joking but, I had a dream with him in it.😂 lol he’s amazing
My uncle has 4 dogs and a McCaw, the McCaw walks around like it owns the place and the dogs treat her like a god, but she has perches and things to climb on all over the house and it’s really cool
If I don’t let my dog in my room and keep him away, could it be safe because I keep my birds in my room and never ever let her in.
How often do cockatiel's wings need to be clipped? I've read every 5-6 weeks, but I've also heard that they grow back very quickly.
Hi Tyler. I like your videos and adore 'Mango'. I've owned 'Conrad Birdie', my sun conure, since he was about 8 mos old. He turned 18 years old this summer. I've always had a terrific bird handler do his grooming including clipping his wings--so that should he fall, he will 'glide' to the ground. However, because his wing feathers are such a beautiful blue-violet, I recently discussed with his groomer about letting them grow out--which they have. Our concerns were about safety and his 'attitude', once he could fly around. Oddly, he does not fly. I'm not sure if he realizes he can at this stage of his life, or what. But I take precautions about open windows/doors and I don't take him outdoors on my shoulder anymore. I'm enjoying his beauty and playing it by ear in terms of clipping him again. Thanks, Susanna.
what i do is : Clip thei wings when i get a new bird , then i make them be in their cage to know what the house is like at first , then i open the cage so they can go around freely (maybe clip its wings again if they can already fly) Then i try to train them , when im done training and they have my trust i dont clip their wings again cause then i know they can trust me, and i trust them :)
edit : while their in the cage to kow what the house is like i keep them there for maybe around 4 weeks then i open their cage for si x weeks then i try to train them , thats just my method :p
What should I name my grey and white cockatiel? They haven’t molted yet so I do not know the gender
When I got my bird her wings were already clipped, I had not not planned on reclipping my cockatiels wings but ended doing it when she decided to make a break for a closed window, which if her wings had not been clipped she would have slammed her head into it potentially injuring or even killing herself. I do take her outside and let her enjoy the sun regularly so it is not as if I keep her cooped up and she is trained enough that she wouldn't fly away, it is just more convenient and much safer for me to clip her wings, especially with my home being smaller and having a lot of people coming in and out
I think what you and many bird owners mistakenly neglect is the fact that your Conure, Parrot, Parakeet or whatever bird you may own is first & foremost a bird. If you can't provide a safe place for your "Bird" to fly and be a bird, then probably you shouldn't own a bird. Clipping a birds wings is essentially crippling them. People do it because it cuts the taming and acclimation process significantly. In other words easier for them. A bird will step up, hang out on your shoulder, be handled much quicker and easier if they have no getaway mechanisms. I understand people think it makes a captive birds life safer if they can't fly into trouble. Let's cut your legs off at the knees so you can't walk into trouble. Harsh I know but cutting off the very thing that makes a bird a bird is in my opinion cruel and selfish on the part of the owner. I suggest if you feel you have to, maybe clipping them one time to tame and acclimate them to their new home but then use their crippled time to make you home safe for them to fly in. These magnificent creatures should not be forced to live as cripples just because it may be easier for you. Once they form a bond with you it's not necessary to clip them. There are literally hundreds of books & literature about how to handle birds as birds. They were born to fly. Don't deny them their essence.
Yeah I have a bird, but what if your trying to train your bird? What if you take it out, won’t it fly away from you? Is it best to clip their wings when your training? And also if I want to clip their wings should I take it to the vet for the doctor to do it? PLEASE HELP ME I NEED ANSWERS THANK YOU!
I have a Sun Conure and her wings are clipped, however, she is potty trained and almost never poops on me! It's very rare if she poops on me, usually only if she is really tires and it's time for bed or is mad at me lol.
I would clip just a few primaries so that they *can* fly just that they don’t have a lot of velocity or altitude. Just enough that they can get to any necessary short distances.
Hey Tyler! So my conure's wings are clipped, and I've actually been able to potty train him! It literally took 2-3 days, I just tell him to "go potty" before I let him step up from his cage/perch; and then I reward him when he does...I think he knows what it means now because he waits to go in a designated potty area (like over a trash can)...soooo much cleaner haha...I just have to remember about every 10-15 min :) hope this helps, I bet Mango could do it!
I'm new here but I just wanted to let you know: please look into free flight training. Now many people know about it, and it's a realllyyy good source of stimulation and exercise for your bird. Theres actually a channel that specializes in training parrot species. You might be a bit surprised or shocked as to what this training allows the bird to do, IN A GOOD WAY. It's really amazing and as long as you have the birds trust, if the bird even gets scared they'd come to you and not run away
we breed and hand raise cockatiels and Indian ringnecks then sell them so we trim their wings -(my mum does them) I'm almost 17 and we have done breeding my entire life- but we keep our 2 inside pet ringneck wings unclipped because there was an incident last year. we have 2 dogs but 1 is shit scared of them and the other not so much.
a good tip if possible is to have a area that can be closed off like a room where you can let them fly around. we have a 4 bedroom house and 1 is only for the birds. in the evening we kick the dogs out and the cats then we get them out for an hour or so to have play and outside time. this also helps to tame them.
I have 4 parakeets and one cokatoo. I never clipped the wings of my little birds but I do clip the wings of my big one. If he tries to fly through our home he would definitly hurt himself and I really don't want this.
This video is very informative for most types of birds but not all. For instance I own two bourkes parakeets and they need to be flighted birds for their mental health.
flying is healty for all birds
I have a cockatiel named Derby and I used to have his flight feathers clipped but lately I've just let them grow out so he can exercise his wings because my house is basically completely bird proof.
I did research on clipping birds wings and my friend is a vet he said it causes birds a lot of stress/depression because it is just not natural for a BIRD to not fly I mean its a bird. just my opinion but it is said to be cruel
(This is not a hate comment)
You are not take ing away their ability to fly they can still fly but not as long.
So what I was told is when you clip them they won’t fly for a few weeks but then when the wings grow back it’s easier to fly, I was thinking about doing it because my birds don’t really fly they just sorta run around on the ground.
It depends on the bird, finches need to be able to fly around in their cage for exercise and stimulation because they shouldn’t be let out too often and only with close supervision. Parrots can sit on your shoulder and play with toys so I’d clip their wings.
personally i dont like to clip my birds wings because half the time she'll fly to me when i call her and it allows her to get a good amount of exercise. plus shes super smart and avoids dangerous stuff in the house and has great aim when it comes to landing so shes never landing on stupid stuff or colliding with things like windows, fans, or doors
I think it depends of the bird and the situation if the bird can manuver well around the house then is unecesary to do so, but if they constantly bump into thing and have issues the best you can do is clip, obviously i see people do it wrong since the clip shouldnt prevent the bird for flying fully is just to prevent them for flying to high into danger
This might sound stupid but i feel like clipping it is better but the only reason i wouldnt is for my cat. Is there a way to clip them a little so he can still fly around for like 10 seconds to run away from the cat?
I have a gcc and I had the very amazing breeder I got him from clipped his wings for me, but I requested the wings to be clipped a little bit, this is so he can fly little distances around the house, but like you said in the video, they can get out, so we also did it to keep him from flying away and never coming back if he ever got outside.
So I recommend trimming them a little bit, so they can fly a little, bit not too much!!! 😊
Oh and he is two months old todayyyy!!!!!!
I’ve had my cockatiel for about two years now, and he’s just…not the best flier. I always heard about how clipping his wings would be bad for him, but I’m more concerned about him flying into walls and windows, or getting stuck. As much as I don’t want to take away his flight, he’s a danger to himself and I just want him to be safe.
Guys.. don't clip the wings. If he has troubles with flying.. help him get better. Whould you be happy if your coach cut your legs off because you fell? No. He helps you succeed.. so do you help your bird.
Am i the only one who noticed Mango did the freaking SPLITS the WHOLE TIME?!!!!! XD
We have chickens, and they let us know when their wings need to be trimmed because they start flying over the fence and into peoples yards or the street. We trim them more for their own saftey than anything else. But if you can train your bird to go to the bathroom in its cage or even on command then go ahead and don't clip their wings. It's also fairly easy to clip a birds wings. I'm sure its a lot easier with a small bird, not so much with a chicken.
Even though I have 3 cats and 1 dog(yet still getting a bird) I'm gonna keep close watch and make sure he's safe but I'm so glad that you have good advice and I hope you have a good day
Yes
It all depends on the situation