Volvo EX30 Twin Performance Ultra 1000 km challenge
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no countdown means you need to redo the challange
lol, I was thinking the same thing!
Consumption isn't surprising given that the volvo is designed using the principle that given enough power a brick will fly.
At this time in history, can we now please now fire all car programmers that still have not learned that charging speed must be shown next to battery % when charging ? Assuming every programmer that did not add battery % when driving already have been fired...
I can guarantee you that the programmer has zero ability to decide that
@@youtubebob123 As an automotive programmer I can confirm that you are totally right.
All this “features” are required by the management that establish the customer requirements and can be slightly improved by requirement engineers. Architects and programmers just have to fallow the requirements…
@@xXxM4nuxXx So then we know who to fire, those who have a salary so high that they have their own private driver and do not have to drive themselves. No wonder car companies struggles with software
Even my Smart ForTwo EQ shows charging speed, and thats a cheap city EV.
@@MortenB0 Unfortunately is not just car companies, most of the managers from all companies nowadays take the decisions just to make more money and technical expertise are most often ignored.
This consumption and charging is crazy for how expensive this small car is.
0:14 - "Supposed to be". What do you expect from Chinese automakers these days? They rate their cars by CTLC which is a big joke :)
Even my 2019 Kona 64 kWh, based on the 2018 original model is only 30 minutes slower, but much more efficient that this crappy minimalistic piece of rubbish Volvo :(
And my Kona has 6 years old tech and battery chemistry in it.
@@RupOase Chinese automakers are literally leading the charge globally. Just because EX30 is not meeting your expectations, does not paint the picture for the rest of the Chinese automakers. And while the consumption of EX30 does not meet my expectations either, it's by no means rubbish, it is one of the best designs out there, especially compared to Kona that has not a hint of modern design language or functionality to speak of. (I still like Kona for what it is but interior is just meh)
@@MartinzW they are leading in the battery manufacturing sector, true, but if you look at the pure Chinese car designs... they are on the extreme sides: they either look terrible, barely having any kind of kit on them, either stunning with so much useless kit on them that they seem to target the rich. They don't offer an intermediate, quality car, that could beat other, more accessible cars. And no, MG4 is anything but qualitative.
And given the price tag of the EX30, I find it rubbish overall, as a package.
Price-wise is almost on par with a Tesla Model Y, but practicability is non-existent. It's even worse than on a Kona.
Remember that the EX30 is built on an EV-dedicated platform, while Kona is based on an ICE platform.
This is what happens when designers are favoured over engineering. Minimalism that makes the car hard to use, and bad efficiency because of crappy aero model and typical inefficient Chinese motors.
Not only my expectations are not met, but many others' as well. We want to switch over by 2030 on new energy cars, but I feel that a person wanting to switch over to them still has to be on the higher earning spectrum, and again, at that price tag, you'll be better off with other manufacturers that offer you more car for your buck.
What I think EX30 does better?
Material quality: yes, it's nice, interior is indeed above all the cars mentioned here, but then, you're not "rubbing" that fabric all day long, not even on a longer trip.
Soundproofing: better than Kona, probably slightly better than on the Tesla.
Seat comfort: I find my Kona better than both EX30 and Model Y, but I might be subjective here, taking into account the price tag.
Navigation: using Google is a big plus.
Safety systems: on par with Kona, but better than on the Tesla.
It’s a 422hp pocket rocket. I just took our 2 year old XC40 out for a Sunday drive today. 16C and saw 16.5kW/100, and an estimated range of 420km, but from a 75kW battery. Thats 408hp from 2 permanent magnet motors. If you drive at 120kph on the 1000km loop, range suffers.
That's basically the consumption of my fat e-Tron... wild!
at same temp?
@@micha8765 Yeah, my winter consumption is from 26-31 kwh/100km.
yeah. The new china technology in the Volvo kinda sucks
I`m happy that i chose the tesla model y sr rwd with byd battery.. 151 watt pr kilometer and 178kw charge speed
The charging speed is awesome - if I compare to my CX30 😁 - ok never mind the grid problem.
To add in your comparison table also EX30 Core LFP (smaller battery but also smaller wheels 18") + MG4 Business and Standard :-)
The Model Y LFP did it faster by over 1hr and 10 minutes
A horrible whining noise coming through from the audio near the chargers. when you were charging, could you hear it?
Regarding 19:30 : I seem to remember seeing some other reviewer noting that the EX30 stops preheating the battery at some ridiculous high SoC% (like 15-20%, can't remember exactly), which was confirmed to him by Volvo with the argument that otherwise you "risk not reaching your destination"... With other words, the preheating is basically useless for any long-range driving, which is when you need it.
So possibly 10h30min in summer temperatures
Yoh B when are you testing the RZ450e or Subaru EV?
Interesting to see.
The coldgating xc40 twin 82kwh awd was faster at -8 degrees average (10:55) compared to the EX30 twin awd (11:00). I'm sure the XC40 beats the EX30 in 1000km. Faster charging speeds, same dramatic consumption, and bigger range. Expecially the slow charging ramp up of the EX30 intrigues me. My XC40 my24 recently charged (10-70%) 53kWh in 24 mins... 132kWh/h on average...
I was looking for EX30 as an alternative for my 2020 Kona in small cars category. Sorry but Kona (releasd 2018!!) still kicks ass. Despite slower charging - much cheaper drive and probably same 1000km real life when you often stop for slightly longer to eat or rest.
Tack!👍 Hoppas du kan testa LR RWD Core med 18 inch summer wheels🙏
So the Kia Niro EV with slow charging curve is equally fast as branch banking new cars, this is nice for Kia, which is a bargain deal because of the dealer discounts.
Energy usage is king..... Not bigger battery
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That is quite bad for a 2024 car...
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consumption is crazy high
Where in the world are dandelions in bloom in "midsummer"? Must be rather cold where this Volvo is from.
Would i take this car to a skiing weekend in the France Alps?
Or take Tesla model 3 long range and hop from supercharger to supercharger...... What would you do?
The Volvo can use Tesla superchargers. But yeah, the Tesla is probably better.
3:06 I'm so sick of manufacturers obfuscating the charging speed in kW, it's not difficult to display it, alongside the time left to charge and the miles being added per hour. Charge speed in kW is the easiest way to see if something is going wrong with your charge, and if you need to move to a different stall.
You can see the kW numbers on the charger.
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Volvo EX30 on summer tires compared to Smart #3 on winter tires ?
Aren't winter tires supposed to increase consumption ?
No
Maybe a comparison test of an EX30 RWD would be fair, Bjørn.
we have that version, with the extended battery. The consumption is ridiculously high. Matching to ID4 or C40.
This car is not as good as originally advertised.
@@maeguk1 I suppose we should all be driving Teslas, then.
@davidcottrell570 my wife is thinking on driving this Volvo for another half year and then change it to a Model Y LR RWD. It's just better all way around.
@@maeguk1 Yes, but we established you were unhappy with her decision to buy an EX30. My experience over 2 years is that my Volvo has been improved considerably over eight or nine updates. Energy use - fixed, One pedal drive - way better. It’s a small car - half a metre shorter than the model Y, so way easier to park in the city. If you can afford the depreciation over one year to buy one of Elon’s marvels, that’s your business. But are you sure she will be happier getting what you want? None of these cars is perfect. Even a Tesla.
@davidcottrell570 I am chatting with many people, I don't follow with whom I have discussed already, I didn't remember you. She has been leasing cars so it's pretty much all the same for her. We are not keeping these vehicles forever.
When do you plan to test the new audi q6 etron for 1000km? Do you already a date? Thx
Next weekend
@@bjornnyland Thank you for the fast answer, looking forward for the amazing video :)
is it possible that my 2019 Tesla model 3 SR 55 kwh, 136.000 km ( 5 years old e car) charges with almost 100 kWat 50-60%. And the new volvo with not even 75 kW at 55%? lets say my numvers are not that correct, i think my old lady is still competitive.
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thanks björn for your tests and time. Unique what you are doing. Thanks
Tesla is the most sold EV for a reason.
Volvo did a shitty technology choice here to be able to push out "cheap mass market cars"
But when people get a model 3 for the same moneys,....
@@SequestererAnd yet, the EX30 is not a cheap car for the small size
if there is no countdown the result is not valid. You'll have to do the whole thing all over again :P
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Why don't you always use the wipers? Is there a benefit to keeping them of on the highway?
To save electricity
It was obviously not to save electricity. That would literarlly be a drop in the ocean. I used rainx because I knew it was going to rain cats and dogs. When it rains heavily, the vision is reduced expecially at night even when using wipers. But with rainx the vision is excellent.
I know, but I still cannot explain the inefficiency. Even if it is a brick or more heavy.
Insane consumption. I can't see how anyone can go for it over M3/MY or some of the best Chinese cars.
Interesting to see how it would look if you are in the range between 20 => 70%
It can not save the bad bad efficiency even if it is 5 minutes(it is actually 19 minutes check bjorns charging test) ,between charge no7 and charge no8, bjorn went from 55% to 7% (48%) for 92km!!!!
That is just ammunition for ev haters,especially in poor charging infrastructure countries...its just sad...this car costs almost as much as id7pro (maybe 5000€less), what a shame for volvo
the consumption seems to me ridiculously high for such a car. but might be just me ...
Nope, I think it is stupid high... And poor charging for 2024
How can it be so much worse than Polestar... Thought they had more cooperation for software like charging and BMS etc. But in a Polestar you can get a high charging speed from like 1%.
Thank you so much! I wanted to buy this car, but thanks to you I know it's not a car for me. 😊 God bless you
you made a good decision. We have this car but my wife is cursing the hell out of it.
0:14 - "Supposed to be". Spot on! Barely beats Kona, a 6 year old car with 6 year old tech and battery chemistry... weird are the ways of China man!
Thank you for your efforts bjorn.This is a very media "hyped" car because of the Volvo brand name , but unfortunately I personally am very dissapointed with the results of your brutal honest opinion (and thank you for it)
55% to 7% for 92km for wet road after 7 charging stops !!!??? so long trips need a charging stop every 125km or every 1 hour?? i believe it would be very informative for your excel sheets (Thank you for them too!!) to include how many charging stops it takes for the long trips.(it can be calculated but. not everyone has your ninja math skills!!) The car industry needs to move forward and "copy" the good results not go backwards as is in this case (ie no charging info while charging).thank you
It's obvious this is a city car. It's not meant for long trips.
@@markbartoszek8585maybe we should also consider the cost of a city car at 50000€ (ultra performance version) and compare it with competitors at the same cost ...just saying.Imho this car is not worth the hype of the media and basically its not moving the car industry forward...Bjorn is one of the few with honest reviews out there, but he is not saying this opinion , I do
You probably would have been quicker overall with longer charging periods and less stop. I can go 320km on motorways in my C40 fwd and still have 15% battery. So probably two stops in 1000knm
No. It is how many KWh can you stuff quickly at lower state of charge and efficiency that makes road trips like this 1000km challenge faster for an EV:) If you charge to a high percentage, your average charge rate drops and therefore charge longer for smaller gains in range.
The EX30 seems to be a nice car, maybe the worst thing about it is the noise level ?
the noise? not the terrible consumption and glacial charging speed?
redo the challenge pull out abort lol
That's a proper thirsty car. Hong-qi e-HS9, GO HOME !
How are Volvos constantly so thirsty.
Geely
422hp Twin, both spinning thanks to speed. Less aerodynamic than some, relatively heavy due to use of steel rather than aluminum. If economy matters and you want a Volvo, get a 268hp single motor.
Still waiting to replace my commuter. But it gets me 700-730km on 35liters of fuel on highway.
How much so you commute in a day?
@@MrBamboolegendaround 40000km a year. So ~180km a day. Can add my normal car (new Audi A3) gets me around 1000km on a full 55l tank. But if I drive slower I have gotten 1150km on a tank
@@AndrewTSq sure, but you still need to head to a gas station every now and then. With an EV you’d just be plugging in to your charger when you’re get back home (assuming you have a garage- if not, an EV is probably not suitable to your use case until public infrastructure improves). Of course you’ll need one to cover your range, like the 2024 Polestar 2 for example or Hyundai Ioniq 6
I have a 100km commute to work and can charge at home. The EX-30 perfectly fits my needs. And if I have to spend 2 hours twice a year charging on road trips, I can live with that
Fuel is now 2€ per liter? I m driving 5 km on 1 kwh (now 0,23€)...
My Model 3 does 23,2kwh/100km at an average of 135kmh for 160 km.
This Volvo consumption is unacceptable
3:48 - "Everything is done via the screen" and then you have to fumble through a touch-screen interaction to simply turn off the headlights. And this is a deal-breaker. Sorry Volvo.
My Tesla X 90D 2017 with 20 inch wheels has better average consumption than this Volvo.
I need 3 charging stops to drive 1000km when I drive to visit my mom
Zeekr is the best...because it's same car with zeekr 😅
That may be .. but not available, so just theory
This user interface in the car is absolutely useless, when it comes to charging. Basic data is missing.
Wow, so it's worse than even the lowest ranged model Y...
Yikes. Expensive, high energy consumption and weird charging behaviour. Nope, this is not it.
I am very happy that I bought a Kona instead. All that faffing about with menus / several screens and then Bjorn says that it is buggy. GIVE ME BUTTONS. 😸
The more I learn about electric cars the more disappointed I get.
To me most affordable electric cars can be compared to smart phones before iPhone 4... I will have to wait for that iPhone 4 electric car - what is somehow affordable by today is more iPhone 3, Nokia E52 and so on...
This way I'm currently forced to use a kind of Nokia 3210 car:
With a 2018 Seat Ibiza 1.0 TSI we consumed 4.96l/100km on a 178km trip;
A total of 8.82l for 16.84€. We "created" 118g CO2/km, so 21kg for the trip, that is 10,5kg per person and luggage. That is the same Deutsche Bahn calculated for the trip... So with more then three people we would have "created" less CO2 then going by train.
With our style o driving a "charge" of E10 is good for 750km by the way.
CO2 "creation" depends of how the electricity is produced of course; that makes the actual usage of an electric car cleaner or dirtier then going "classic"
282 Wh/km ?!?!?! WTF ! Amazingly inefficient ! I'd have to drive my Tesla M3 at a constant 160 km/h to consume so much energy !
Worst price/value so far. :(
8 charhing stops? This is shit!!! I made a 1020km trip 4 months ago with the classic Ioniq and made 9 charging stops…..
ABG. always blame grid
Isn‘t it worth to be more critizing that car if it calculates to arrive at a charging station with 29% and you arrive at 7%?! I think that is a dark red flag! Think of normal people bying it and trying to understand that…
Same problem for other Volvos and Polestar as well.
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I’m actually disappointed that Volvo is a Chinese brand now…
Always wanted one, but now it is a big no-no.
Its a shame bigotry is ruining your dream.
Actually Volvo has been chinese since 2010.
So if a Chinese company bought a majority stake of BMW shares, would it still be German, or an Indian company bought out Land Rover? Wait, they did. The EX30 is currently built in China, and starting next year will be built in Ghent, alongside the EX40. Better get rid of your smartphone and laptop - they might be listening and will come for you…
Everything is built in China. I have only one thing built in USA in my house (in Romania). A Stanley scraper...
tesla would consume half less lol. what a blunder from volvo.
Model S Laid is 255 Wh. Model Y Performance 228. Model Y LR 254. Model X 258.
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