Thomas & Friends: Jack & the Pack (2003) in Retrospect - The Thomas Retrospective
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VIDEO CHAPTERS:
0:00 Intro
2:03 Production History
11:51 Overview
24:12 Characters
31:31 Episodes
37:44 Conclusion
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This series had so much potential. The props are impressive, the humor is great, and I love the characters. It could have easily been a great companion piece to _Thomas and Friends._ if only HIT hadn't interfered.
Me too
You commented that 32 minutes ago, and this video is 51 mins old and 41 mins long, which means you commented either part way through the vid, or before you watched it
@@splendidredscrapiron...
HIT absolutely sabotaged the series. an engineered failure top secure BTB as the *only* construction series.
@@splendidredscrapironyea he probably commented before watching
It's kinda a general opinion on the miniseries tho so like eh who cares
Brandon made Monty and Max basically Beavis and Butthead and I'm into it wholeheartedly
🤣
I actually really like the voice Brandon gives Patrick. The way he just spouts “CONCRETE”and his overall gruff Irish voice is always amusing
Wow I love Michael Brandon when he good voice actor as a narrator and diesel in model and cgi
C O N C R E T E
*BUT I'M THE MOST IMPORTANT!*
I’d say it’s a Scottish accent he gave him but I prefer Michael angiles’ northern ish voice for Patrick
I see Jack and the Pack sort of like a bonus level of the classic era. And now that I think about it, Ned and Oliver’s dynamic has started to remind me of Warrior and Big Mac's dynamic in Tugs.
They also remind of Laurel and Hardy, David Spade and Chris Farley, And other comedy duos
There's 2 Oliver's on sodor i suppose, the train and the other,
Two years ago ago, I decided to give The Pack a try. Hadn't seen it in at least a decade and a half, probably since the DVD came out. It was remarkably good, like there was actual care put into it, as opposed to S7, which was decent, but ultimately felt like a cheap contractual obligation.
So yeah, Pack was a great spin-off, and it's a shame it only got 13 or so episodes...
Where did you find it? My friend wants to watch it.
@@selinapersaud7629I just looked it up it's on CZcams if you search it
@@selinapersaud7629 Either look up the episodes or buy a Jack and the Pack DVD. Those are your best two choices. I found them on CZcams, but that was two years ago, before Mattel purged the website of most Thomas and Friends episodes...
Season 7 was great
I am sure what Michael Brandon really said was "The Sodor Auto Race Track"
You talking about Kelly makes me realize how much he's like Toby in the railway series. He's old and wise, but instead of taking sense into Jack, he lets him make a fool of himself and then rescues him like a total Chad. He's also similar in the sense that he cares for others, and despite his accident with the wind, he still helps Isabella in a manner like Toby.
*THIS* is how Toby should have stayed.
I love characters like that tbh, it would have been great seeing Toby and Kelly together.
@@bloodmuzzleactually Kelly has a very similar character to Edward since they are both wise and are coloured blue, while I think Ned is the steam shovel equivalent to Toby
Especially in CGI Brenner era.
The more I learn about cases like this, the more upset I get with the BS of the corporate world and their dealings
Same
20:38 Brandon being a maniac 😈
No wonder he’s the best Diesel/troublesome trucks voice/laugh.
Jack and the pack as a whole had so much potential. The props were impressive and seeing Sodor through a different perspective would've been cool to see.
Fun fact: Byron was indirectly mentioned in mines of mystery. And Ned was indirectly mentioned in tale of the brave.
Can you give me a video of it?
@@bernarda1247 I can't give you a video of them because Mattel is copyrighting full episodes and movies of TTTE. But what I can tell you is that Thomas indirectly mentioned Ned in the scene where he meets Marion, and he indirectly mentioned Byron in the beginning of mines of mystery.
@@TheSpongeBobGuy01 oh ok
I love the Jack and the Pack miniseries. It's a shame the series never took off, because I love what we got.
Same man
“Puck” 😂
@@augustdavis4725 Fixed.
It's tragic that the creators not only made 1, but 2 sister shows to Thomas that both floundered to some degree. Jack and the Pack had huge potential, and if Hit never bought Gullaine and the team made the full 26 episode lineup to some warm but successful reception, it's possible that the writing team would have more time to flesh out the later seasons of thomas as they continued writing more episodes for the pack, fulfilling that annual release window to some degree.
I'm glad that the CGi Era never forgot Jack and the Pack, though, and I'm glad they got more attention there than they otherwise would.
On site with Thomas is easily a classic 😂
Such a hilarious episode
I especially love the bricks constantly falling on Oliver and saying OUCH!!
Never fails to make me laugh
Also the demolition scene is a masterpiece
That episode you're talking about is actually "Thomas' trusty friends"
The demolition scene has always struck me as impressive, but the fact it was done all in one take, especially granted how big the building set actually was, has given me an all new appreciation for it.
i like jack and his pack, i would love to have seen the unproduced episodes be produced, wish we got more.
this is gonna be a good retrospective
Well my favorite pack are Jack Alfie Oliver Kelly Max and Monty
It would be really cool to see the fans adapt those lost stories using the given episode outlines.
@@bloodmuzzle Especially in CGI style with many things like Trainz.
Jack and the Pack is one of my favorite seasons of Bob the Builder
Jack and the Pack are related to Bob the Builder
Jack - Scoop /Muck
Kelly - Lofty
Rolly - George / buster
Dizzy and tumbler Patrick
Max and Monty / muck
While this can be similar to "Bob the Builder", Thomas the Tank Engine's mini companion series had much more moving model work without using the stop-frame technique and more detailed model sets.
I got another idea what if unlucky tug could even make episodes about the Bob the Builder history scoop
2010 cgi bob the builder
The best part of the chimney destruction is that the last wall to fall was the one Oliver was trying to take down. Perfect comedic timing
I loved that part of the episode so much!
Anyone else notice how in Percy's Scary Tale, the voice used for the narrator and Monty switched when the owl hoots? Always a funny moment. Also, Jack and Alfie are a little like Ten Cents and Sunshine.
Such a shame this little spin off was snubbed at the last second, wouldn’t mind it being a little one season story that sets them up as a crew and continue to keep them more prevalent and involved in the show forward, but I’m glad it wasn’t lost entirely either
Yesss finally done with the classic series 1984-2003
why u want it done so bad?
Why are you so happy with the classics seasons retrospective done?
Thats not a good thing
👍
It was a good run! 🫡✌️
It's such a shame that this series never really came to fruition. As you said, the props were all amazingly well-made, and the characters had so much potential. My favorite Pack characters were always Max & Monty, and the bit about rowdy truck drivers in real life makes me appreciate these two knuckleheads even more XD
Around 2013, Irish actor and comedian Ardal O'Hanlon was asked to voice Patrick, however he declined the role, implying that Patrick was at some point intended to return in the CGI series. It is currently unknown what series or special Patrick's return was planned for.
If model Thomas ever gets rebooted, we need more Jack And The Pack to go with it!
😎
…and Tugs too!
Do heard about Trainz Adventure of Thomas and tracks to big adventure Trainz Adventure is half model/cgi it’s even cool better then AEG so what if we could pretend Trainz Adventure and tracks to big adventures are season 25 26 27 28
Model Thomas will never get rebooted. I'm sorry but since models were getting too expensive to continue, CGI took over to keep the show going so the show can only continue or rebooted in CGI. We all know that models cannot last in shows forever.
Tugs is a product of it's time... So it wouldn't take off nowadays
@@danielferrovias That doesn't mean people could try to have it take off even in the present time.
"Wake up, homies. The Unlucky Tug just dropped Jack n Pack episode."
I always used to think the episode “Thomas’ Trusty Friends” as a fun and active episode when I the TTF DVD back in the day.
I’d like to believe Jack and the Pack would’ve still failed even if HiT didn’t buy out Gullane. Because Bob the Builder was so popular in terms of sales and evidently the clear winner when it comes to the market for talking construction vehicles. The Builder had a number 1 single, you can’t let go of a franchise at that level
You aren't wrong.
Not to mention Bob the Builder was a lot easier and cheaper to produce as it was animated. It just would have been too expensive to produce both Thomas and Jack or any other spin offs they wanted to do.
It would have been fun to see them attempt a whole Jack season in CGI though when it would have been easier to produce.
That is likely, still I think it would have been cool if Jack and the Pack at least got a fair chance, even just getting the full 26 planned launch episodes would have been nice to show everything off. Could have possibly made a nice cult classic with just enough episodes to binge through.
Never been big on the 13 episodes limit it and TUGS and so many other early cartoons that didn't take off got stuck with, just never seems enough.
Yeah Bob the builder does 😊
@@vanguardtrainer924I don’t think so, because there’s a clear chance that Jack and the Pack is related to Thomas, so basically kids will be more glued to Thomas than any other kids show?
Michael Brandon makes Max and Monty laugh like Beavis and Butthead
I love Michael Brandon deep voice as diesel max and Monty
I love the moment from Kelly saying that Jack needs to learn the hard way, it reminds me of Toby, tell me he wouldn't let a younger engine make a mistake, embarrass themselves and learn their lesson, so long as no one was in danger of getting really hurt.
i like to imagine Thomas doesn’t get the destruction being fun because of how often he crashes.
13:27 that's a point, why WASN'T Thumper made part of the pack? it would've at least given him more screen time
Quite cool that my country, the Netherlands, is one of the only countries where the mini-series released
I was very surprised that Jack and The Pack wasn’t more popular. Construction shit was very popular cause of all the sandboxes at playgrounds.
32:57
Guy: I spend two weeks build that, What will you do with it?
Producer: Demolish it.
Guy: What?
You made a good connection to Ned and Oliver making a subtle nod to Laurel and Hardy with their dynamic. I had never thought of it myself, but the original episode title "Another Fine Mess" definitely confirms it. In addition to that, I caught a couple other references to the duo. The bricks repeatedly hitting Oliver is seen in L&H a couple times, notably in "Dirty Work". Then Michael Brandon, I can't help but wonder if he was a fan himself? Those little grunts Oliver the Excavator made by Brandon are very similar in timing and tone to the grunts made by Hardy throughout the series, almost a signature of his performances. Absolutely loved this Retrospective!
I also they are similar to Chris Farley And David Spade, Carl Wheezer and Jimmy Neutron, Greg Heffley, Finn the human and Jake the dog, and other famous duos from Western culture
Toby actually had 13 faces on his Series 6 face reference sheet.
It's funny that both "Tugs" (1989) and "Jack & the Sodor Construction Company" (2003) had only 1 season of episodes and sadly didn't get another series of episodes. Both spin off series deserve another chance.
I hope that the Unlucky Tug speaks about the Cars spin off series "Planes" because that is unrated and is the only Pixar films series that was made by DisneyToon studios before it closed down.
Imagine if Jack and the Pack had the classic series music and was released during 2003 with Season 7. It would hit so much different. I’m really excited for your review on Season 8.
Jack and the Pack are before s8 and after s7
@@vanessasandoval96that’s when it takes place, but it was released in between season 9 and 10
15:16
For those who don't know, The Importance of Being Patrick is a reference to a farcical comedy of manners by Oscar Wilde entitled "The Importance of Being Earnest: A Trivial Comedy for Serious People". Its a play from 1895 that takes a satirical look at upper-class Victorian society.
Pretty interesting reference. I can tell that the Jack and the Pack writers had a lot of fun coming up with the original episode titles.
I wish we get to see the lost episodes of Jack and the pack
I wonder if any of the canceled episodes had any shots filmed
I actually owned the 'On Site With Thomas' DVD when I was a kid too. Never had the rest of the DVDs though, so I never got the full Pack experience.
But speaking of Thumper at 13:25, it took me years & becoming a major history buff to realize that the chassis for his model was made using a model kit KV-1 tank.
Not to mention some tractors in the background through some of the early seasons were based on the chassis of the M3/M5 Stuart.
It's always the best shows that are short lived
(Cough) Motorcity...
*cough* *cough* The Owl House
Tugs
Gravity Falls
I mean better to go at a high point than linger on like the empeor on the golden throne.
If that Bertie show was made in the hit era. There’d probably an episode about Bertie and say George disagreeing on how useful trains are and theyd call it like Thomas’ argument.
In all honesty, I love all the Pack episodes, even Jack Owns Up because it teaches the moral of the owning up to mistakes. Speaking of Max and Monty having the most leads making them standouts, Max and Monty, themselves, are my favorite Pack members because they're both great comedy duos and they represent how even the truck drivers can be careless in real life.
I can imagine George, Butch, Thumper, Elizabeth, or, maybe, The Horrid Lorries having 'Jack'-Scaled models built. It's because I think all the Pack vehicles would interact with others outside The Pack, most notably Max and Monty interacting with The Horrid Lorries, Isobella interact with Elizabeth, and Kelly interact with Butch.
13:23
Speaking of Thumper, it’s a wonder why no one wrote a fanstory where he gets promoted to work with The Pack yet.
Or at the very least interact with some of them.
When I was younger, I probably watched this show more than Thomas when it came out simply because my name was Alfie and there was a character with the same name as me
Something tells me that the whole Jack and the pack sideseries was made out of Bob the Builder envy
I understand how you reacted to seeing the Jack and the Pack episodes as a return to Classic Thomas. I was expecting Season 10 to be pretty much the same, but it turns out that wasn't the case. What a shame. It would have been a great comeback.
It's a shame more of those funny visual gags the series had didn't carry over into Hit era Thomas more often, could have really added a fun redeeming quality to those seasons while keeping to the more light hearted format that period aimed for.
One thing I find really fascinating about this spinoff is the human figures. In the main series, there were always large scale human figures exclusive to close-up shots as they couldn’t be as detailed in wide shots, given the scale of the engine props. However, because of how big the Pack props are, the human figures are just plain large scale all the time, with the exception of on the Gauge 1 sets that are shown in the spinoff.
Now that Project Tiger Moth has proven to be a success, y’never know we could have another various of “Jack & the Pack”
Honestly though, if I was in charge, I would call it “Jack’s Crew” due to practicality and simplicity
I wish they had a made an episode where Jack quits in front of people. It should be named "Jack's off publicly".
“And we weren’t released in a lot of countries, had a promo DVD at Woolworths… I don’t know, Everett, was it the one branch or all of them?”
I cannot hear Woolworths and not think of that film XD
I'm already putting this on my Best Thomas Fan Content Playlist because that's how much I love your videos!
Just gained a subscriber
who doesn't love them?
The OG names of the episodes are so hilarious and classic, and it was so infuriating that they changed them
Can we all agree that the face on the large scale Thomas that appeared in Season 6 before this series happened looks really creepy?
Admittedly a little bit.
I mean I personally was never creeped out by it as a kid but I understand your feelings. Looking back it is.... Weird looking.
I was kinda in a way just as surprised that some members came back. As much as this show was like Bob the Builder I both enjoyed them in their own ways I also kinda noticed that if Jack has a snowplough he would be like Scoop since Scoop has also been shown to have a snowplow and another comparison David Menkin voiced Scoop in Ready Steady Build in the US same as how he voiced Jack in the US of the CGI series.
As a kid these just felt like normal Thomas episodes because Thomas and Percy were used so much. I didn’t know that it was actually a spin off show until I saw your original video on Jack and the Pack.
The hit era loved their crashes almost every crash they did was dramatic and badass
When I was still really young, I never even thought these episodes would were supposed to be their own series. I just thought they were an extension of the main series, just like the Narrow Gauge episodes. Like, they were a special “every now and then” group of characters
In episode was called
Operation S.K.A.R.L.O.E.Y. Aka Sir Handel Knows As Rheneas Likely On Every Year
What if unlucky tug talks about facts about narrow gauge engines the episodes what narrow gauge episodes are Tallylynn version
19:37 That is the scariest thomas has ever looked imo
i miss the intro in the retrospectives, such beauty in the transitions with the music
Jack & The Pack looked like an interesting spin-off series for Thomas. Shame HiT never got around to letting Gullane go through with it.
I'll admit, I liked the idea of having a spin off series within the Thomas franchise. Not just Jack & The Pack but other railway characters too
And with that, Unlucky Tug has once again given all of us a wonderful Thomas Masterpiece on CZcams. I really enjoyed this video and can’t wait for whatever Thomas content comes to the channel next!
Same over here! I mean it when I say it but the unlucky tug is like our god for the Thomas Fandom
@@Noah-ey5zf Isn't Wilbert Awdry the god of the fandom?
@@TheSpongeBobGuy01 well yes he created the franchise but I meant the unlucky tug is a god for just how good his work is in video
I swear I’m getting a sense of deja vu with this video
This series is so great!
Totally Agree man
I definitely lament that Jack & the Pack never got a proper chance, but we still have some amazing props and good characters that came out of it.
I think a Bob the Builder retrospective series would be cool. Other than Thomas, it was my go-to show when I was little.
I love that Oliver keep saying ouch, 😂 & I’m looking forward for the next retrospective of season 8 of Thomas and friends. As well as part 2 of Star Wars focusing on the prequel era.
Bob The Builder: *"They do exactly what we do!."*
Jack And The Pack: *"But better."*
Facts
The lady at 14:14 is actually the owner of the grand piano, it’s stated in particular in the episode.
Oh I remember this! I think I had the DVD of Jack & the Pack if I recall. I think I still have it somewhere, I just don’t remember where it is.
And with that, we have entered the Hit Era. I don't know how TUG will tackle each season since (aside from 12) they are all the same.
Nonetheless I look forward to each Restrospect!
Oh I don't know... even the hit era model series had its moments. I'd argue season 8, with a few changes made here and there could easily be on par with season 6 & 7. It was easily the best out of that era.
I have a lot of nostalgia for Jack and the Pack (Thomas’ Trusty Friends in the UK where I’m from), loved the DVD and the two season 6 episodes. Such a cool concept with some fun episodes!
Good luck reviewing the HIT era, Tug. You're gonna need it my man
I did a re-watch of the HiT era last month. It had an alright-ish start but went downhill pretty fast. It also got very annoying having very long streaks of episodes with ONLY Thomas as the main character. The new characters from the era were pretty neat, I just wish they got more than like 2 episodes each. Oh, and if you thought season 12 was the worst season of this era... then you sure won't like season 10.
I just watched "Thomas' Trusty Friends" before listening to what you had to say about the episode and I've got to say, it's pretty comedic despite having no real moral behind it. Sometimes these "slice of life" episodes can be good if done properly and this episode is one of very few. Not to mention, the practical effects are stunning to boot. Dare I say this episode could fit right into a compilation of Season 5 and spills and thrills episodes with the chimney falling on top of the warehouse.
10:38 I'd like to point out that the German Release skipped "Jack owns up" and "Percy's Scary Tale" for unknown reasons.
They should’ve been able to film Jacks Snow Rescue due to the Trackmaster merchandise tie in
Jack and the pack episodes were my absolute favorite ones growing up
I remember watching jack and the pack when I was really little and I loved all the action scenes and sounds they made, so glad you made a retrospective on it
I was born in 2004 , so this holds a special place in my heart since i owned the classic and hit eras on Dvd , and the big switch to Cgi happened when i was in kindergarten. Now I'm 18 years olds 😅
Imagine Alec Baldwin narrating this series...
Excited for the chaos that follows after here lmao
I find it funny that "On Site With Thomas" was actually one of if not my first pieces of the show I watched as a kid. To learn of it's history and production here is pretty cool
I love on site with Thomas it starts out with Patrick being most important so the whole pack were making rumor who is most important and Max and Monty are arguing who is Patrick and makes Patrick cause an accident getting dipped into the concrete
Awesome
I wish there was more fan made stories for the Pack. I think they deserve it.
The Sodor "odor" racetrack clip also gives Thomas a lazy eye, for some reason
18:50 This right here is probably my favourite bit of narration in any Thomas media.
With me, buster kind of reminds me of OJ in tugs in the way how simple and kind hearted they both are, anyone agree/ disagree
We’ve come a long way throughout the retrospective series. I choose to see Jack and the Pack as in between S6 and S7, like S6.5. I feel like Thomas first appearing in Nelson Gets Carried Away would be more special and impactful. What if he wasn’t going to appear much in the second half of this spinoff season.
Buster by Michael Brandon sounds like Goofy lol. I love how Brandon is so enthusiastic during his narration. That chimney falling stunt I never knew was only able to do do one take of it. This series had an insane amount of potential, if HiT hadn’t interfered.
A little later, the retrospective continued. As they approached the next episode, they saw Season 8. “Here we go,” said Henry’s driver.
As soon as you mentioned the buyout, I was immediately like “Do I smell corporate sabotage??”
I remember watching the pilots on New Friends For Thomas, and I never knew they were from Season 6.
It's incredible by all the facts, info and all the model techniques the crew had with these gigantic construction characters, combined with extra detail. On behalf of Jack & the Pack as a spinoff of its time, I'd say it has some similarities with TUGS and Theodore Tugboat. No not just b/c it had 13 episodes of the former, but of the characters each. Jack and Alfie are like Ten Cents and Sunshine/Theodore and Hank, Byron as George the Valiant, Oliver as Foduck, Ned as Warrior, Kelly as Hercules, Isobella as Top Hat/Emily, etc.
Max & Monty are two of my favorite Pack characters mainly because I always love dumptrucks. In my childhood, I sometimes watch some kid-construction tapes that are educational with real live action machines at work (There Goes a Bulldozer/Dump Truck, Hard Hat Harry's Construction Equipment, I Love Big Machines, etc.). Their personas really are spot on reflecting the carelessness of real truck drivers are, especially nowadays. So they definitely stand out among the others, combined with their insane bickering and antics. Would've loved to see what would've happen if Safety First was made, then we would've seen of what makes them venerable members and how they can put others in their place being more careless as them like George the Steamroller (like how MrTrainer1110Productions did in his series with a few episodes centered around them).
Favorite episode-wise, my favorite is Who's the Boss because not only do I like seeing the Pack members bickering together, but also has an insanely awesome crash. Also love the Irish accent Michael Brandon gave to Patrick who only appeared once (despite him being American alongside Byron). My least favorite is The Lightning Tree. If you'd all remember what Thomas once said in S3, "We cannot mend broken trees!" And here, the Pack are like "We'll pretend we didn't hear that" and broke that logic out the window. Cancelled episode-wise, I would've loved to see Bossy Byron, Jack's Snow Rescue, Isobella Gets Steamed and Importance of Being Patrick get made. I'm not really a fan of Alfie Has a Secret, Treasure Hunt, or Kelly's Heroes cause the latter retcons Jack's character even though he should've learned that from Jack Jumps In when it comes to being safe. I take Jack Owns Up and Thomas Tells a Lie (better examples of admitting your mistakes more than Who's Geoffrey?).
And finally, and I know this might sound as an unpopular opinion, but I'm not really fond of Bob the Builder. Granted, I used to like it as a kid and I still have some nostalgia memories in my heart, I just never cared for it as a show as I got older. Just not one of my cup of teas. So yeah, the Pack wins me over.
He's right about Max & Monty putting George in his place. I depict their dynamic with them being bitter enemies just because George hates railways, which would just annoy the twins and the three would get into heated arguments and vicious fights.
Michael Brandon makes Max and Monty sound like the dump truck versions of Beavis and Butthead
Yeah I love Michael Brandon deep cackle voice of diesel max and Monty
Wonder what it would’ve been like if Percy was the one unsettled about The Pack’s fondness of knocking buildings down since he saw the Boulder wreck the sheds. Though while it seems like Thomas and Percy could easily find the idea of knocking things down intriguing and amazing I can get why they wouldn’t fully get it due to being engines and that idea could work with how Diesel 10 hit the sheds with his claw (whether or not TATMR is canon) plus other crashes they and other engines have dealt with like them crashing through the wall and chocolate factory along with other things like when Gordon crashed into the station. Even if the other engines didn’t have speaking roles, I wonder what it would be like if in scenes with the engines only someone like James Gordon Toby or even Salty or Harvey got a few lines to show they all still existed. And if they already had large scale models of Thomas and Percy, I wonder why they didn’t just use their models with their track gauge once the (godawful) narrow gauge episodes in the HIT era started instead of creating another large scale model of Thomas with another track gauge set (they still could’ve shown James)?
I’m gonna guess they brought the characters they brought the Pack members in SLOTLT they did because of Alfie being the second main important character and protagonist’s best friend (the Percy of The Pack), Max and Monty because of how fun and entertaining they are with how unique they are in personality compared to the rest being like the Pack’s two James’, and Oliver likely just mainly to make the joke with him sharing the same name as the engine Oliver but also he’d be important to the digging involved in SLOTLT (Ned could’ve been brought back for it though I don’t know if they’d ever consider doing much for him even though he’s a fun character to work with) plus being the wise older mediator. Since Brenda and Darcy feel kinda unnecessary they could’ve easily brought back Byron who is a bulldozer and Isobella who is female and even yellow, would’ve been nice to see Kelly too. Though since Patrick was said to have had someone who was gonna voice him in 2013, I wonder if they were gonna consider bringing more Pack members back by Season 17 (like why would Jack suddenly appear in KOTR only to be absent afterwards and then reappear again in SLOTLT?)
I wish this series wasn’t cancelled
HiT changing the names of most of the episodes is one of the many dumb decisions they made, along with denying America a proper dub of Season 7 (except on Thomas and the Jet Engine), constantly screwing up the show’s continuity, using the same formula over and over again, and having the characters act out of character many times.
“Ouch!”
-Oliver, 2006
i honestly didn’t know this existed, i could only really watch season 3 because my family wasn’t really well off at the time
Who here hates the "Jack and the Sodor Construction Company" name? I do. They should've just went with Jack and the Pack