It was actually foreshadowed the whole time even in the music. There were brief instances in his main theme that a humorous tune was heard in the very grim and ominous music. The theme then explodes into a bombastic, circus-esque theme that is eerie, disturbing and unnaturally threatening. Much like the deranged clown what Doom turns out to be.
Olivier Marti 1:15-1:25 A lot of trumpets in that piece hence the "bombastic" description. An assault on the hearing senses just as much as his toon form & abilities are an assault on one's vision.
I love how much they subtly hinted at that twist throughout the movie. Little things like his really goofy penmanship and the fact that he gets so genuinely scared when Roger and Eddie knock over the vat of Dip in the bar and he scrambles to get away. It's so cool to see how many little things in the movie take in a different context on second and third and 90th viewing. I love this movie!
Or how Judge Doom speaks and dresses like some 1890s baron in 1940s LA. If you're at a point in the film where you still believe Doom is human, this *could* be explained away by him being a snobby out of touch "Mr. Burns" type who doesn't keep up with modern times or feels he's above it all...Especially since he had the money to bribe for Toontown votes to get elected as the judge and buy stock in Cloverleaf etc... Except it's all revealed the persona is merely a TOON'S perception of a sophisticated, sane respected man and/or a toon overcompensating, and the only reason he was so loaded was from robbing the First National Bank of Toontown and murdered Teddy Valiant to get away. EDIT : And Doom's rigid body language and mannerisms. Like the way he hunches his shoulders and tilts forward when he's irate....The only other character in media I have seen do that is the Chuck Jones' Daffy Duck.
@@msannethropp7497 Oh for sure. He tries a little bit TOO hard to be normal and controlled in his mannerisms, with overly articulate speech patterns and very stilted movements. Then there's the fact that when he dips the shoe, he puts on big rubber gloves over the gloves he's already wearing and in spite of wearing two very thick layers of gloves still reacts very strongly to a joybuzzer. It really is a masterful performance, since so much of it can be explained away without a second thought. He's afraid of dip because (he's a toon so its lethal to him) it has nasty chemicals in it that everyone would be afraid of, he knows toons inside and out because (he is one) he presides over them and spends a lot of time around them, he speaks with extreme precision because (he's compensating for wearing false teeth) he's in love with his own authority. The list goes on and its just a testament to how really well done this movie is
@@dangerdanjerz1479 Doom hates for the weasels to laugh (*because he gets triggered and reminded of what he's trying to run away from, and it threatens to publically out him "Have you forgetten what happened the last time?!??" as his voice cracks*) so they don't die before fulfilling all of the henchman duties. Doom wants to obliterate Toontown for a freeway (*because he is NOT your good toon or your toy or dancing slave like all the other toons. He's here to make YOU the miserable consumerist slave and corporate cog with no goody goody toons around to lift you up. Also convincing you humans that toons are a psychotic menace to society, then eradicate them only to secretly BE that true psychotic menace, to freely murder more humans who cannot defend themselves against what they believe is another human. That is the greatest troll of all time. No toon can resist being a troll*) because he's the typical greedy villain who craves world domination so even the money he has now is not enough. And he's a toon-hating meanie. Lloyd apparently read Judge Doom's introduction scene and already figured out that he was playing a toon mimicking a man before Zemeckis explained it to him, which is probably why he was so outstanding.
Also when he trips on the eyes before Eddies big number, you can see he’s covering one of his own. So one of his fake eyes must’ve fallen out when he fell.
I have to admit- normally, in movies, I'm able to figure out who the real villain is about halfway... but I first saw this movie, I never saw this one coming.
This music really captured the eeriness of Flat Doom, which is an creepy effect with its CGI/stop motion feel before it descends into an intense fight of survival with the now powerful and lucid Doom.
Flat Doom is hand-drawn - this was before mainstream CGI had really come into its own. If you look closely, the character's not interacting with anything real.
@@zbr76 Actually flattened Judge Doom was a stop motion puppet. Zemeckis said so himself on the DVD commentary. Said that he still has it in his office.
I remember for a while not being able to look at the various cartoon characters who appeared in this the same way just because of this scene. Seeing Mickey Mouse or Bugs Bunny in one of their respective cartoons you remember...Oh yes they were in that one movie with the creepy judge guy.
This music will always haunt me. I can handle it now, but when I first saw this movie as an 8 year old kid, I was petrified. I couldn't watch this movie for years, and when I began to watch it again, I would always look away until Doom was melted. Those eyes STILL creep me out though
People have apparently done some actual detective work and may have figured out Doom's identity: In Maroon's office there's a framed poster on the wall featuring a Toon named "Pistol Packin Possum." This poster is hanged up right next to a Roger Rabbit poster in such a way that the pistol the Possum is packing is aimed at Roger's head. This could just be a coincidence if not for the fact that during the scene when Doom murders Maroon, Eddie catches a glimpse of the reflection of Doom's pistol in this very same poster, and Doom's pistol is reflected in the poster's glass in such a way that it completely lines up with the Possum's pistol. Ergo, it's the exact same gun model. On top of all this, the Pistol Packin Possum also wears clothes strikingly similar to Doom's, have eyes of the same red colour as Doom's eyes, and his fur is of a yellow colour strikingly similar to the golden colour of Doom's hands when he pulls off his gloves.
@@LadyVoldo Yeah, I've read it. But I don't really consider it a part of the main Roger Rabbit canon: None of the original creators were involved in the creation of the comic, and more than anything else it felt like poorly-inspired fanfiction written by someone who hadn't put in any detective work themselves... You know how the vast majority of Dragon Ball and Naruto movies are blatantly based on the latest story arc? Like how Tree of Might was heavily influenced by the Saiyan invasion arc, and the Cooler movies were discount versions of the Freeza arc, and the Bojack movie was blatantly based on the Cell Games arc, and etc, etc? That's kinda what I feel that Resurrection of Doom was like, but for Roger Rabbit... :/
2:45 - Baron Von Rotten: [A la The Wicked Witch of the West from "The Wizard of Oz" (1939)] Woo-hoooooo! Whaaaaaa! Oh, noooo! Wha-whaaaaa! I'm melting! Oh, what a world! Wha-whaaaaa! I'm melting, melting! Wha-wha-what! Oh, no!
Naminski I love how melodramatic that music and Doom himself is when he's melting, in contrast to how nonchalant and deadpan he was about killing others. That's kind of hilarious in a twisted way.
I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on, all day, all night! Soon, where Toontown once stood, will be a string of gas stations, inexpensive motels, restaurants that serve rapidly prepared food, tire salons, automobile dealerships, and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see! My God, it'll be beautiful.
Listening to this music while watching the movie makes me realize Doom was one of the worst nightmares made into reality. A seemingly ruthless and cold hearted man who seems to be your typical card carrying human villain racist.....until he reveals his true Toon nature- an unnatural moving abomination that is neither real or fully traditionally animated....before revealing he's a red eyed Toon bigot of madness with enough of a live action presence that you could buy he could be anywhere or anyone because he was never revealed beyond his eyes and hand, both of which, change in shape and design. Doom is one of those hellish terrors that creeped out of the darkest recesses of the human mind.
I believe Doom is an allegory of the Aids virus. I mean he was declining to insanity, and when his identity is revealed his eyes were like the red eyes of the disease, madness unraveled and when he melts away it was also to symbolized as the victim of the disease dying in a hospital bed, him saying "I'm melting" felt as if he was demanding to find his meds and after he said "Oh. No" he's dead and the last dead beet of the music sounded suspiciously like a flat-line.
Christopher Scholl Judge Doom is actually an *extreme* allegory for self-hating minorities. Roger repeatedly says that a toon's purpose in life is to entertain people, and he loves getting laughs at his own expense. Doom not only longs to be taken seriously and viewed as a visionary, he *despises* the very concepts of laughter and comedy. He had no concern for the well-being of his henchmen (I'm sure he was going to erase them once they were no longer useful) It's that he became infuriated (and emotionally frayed) with getting confronted with reality : his "audience" of weasels laughing at him doing toon stuff. And since he was in a room full of *actual* human beings the first time, he was worried about getting outed. After he's "outed" later that's when he completely loses it. Despite being insane, Doom manages to have enough self-awareness to know that a toon's life has no value to mainstream human society *and even says that in so many words* during his Freeway monologue. A similiar observation is typically at the root of a minority's motive to hate their own kind or want to "pass". Speaking of "passing" you *are* correct that as the film goes on Judge Doom's facade of a "sane human" is progressively eroding. It's apparent during "Shave and a Haircut" (he moves his head to the beat of "Haircut" knocking at first, then is actually singing it right before Roger succumbs to it) and when he gets shot by Jessica in the alley. *Not only* because Doom wasn't remotely harmed by a bullet, but he lets out a high-pitched yelp when shot. And his "You'll Never Stop Me!" spiel sounded different than his usual 19th century stoicism. That cadence and delivery was pretty simplistic & almost childlike (how most toons speak), as was his whole "Remembuh Me, Eddie?..." thing. When everyone's at the Gag Factory, even though he's back to being reserved his "monologuing" & "Whiplashing" are things that *human* scoundrels generally don't have time for & don't indulge in. The film shows us that although he's putting forth a lot of effort and energy into passing for human, Doom cannot completely suppress what he naturally is. Before anyone gets offended with the "minority" comparison, I AM a minority. Just calling it how I see it.
Christopher Scholl What's more, not to be pedantic but : the issue with the AIDS analogy is that patients with AIDS ultimately die of whatever otherwise *common* ailment & infection that other people can fend off (they no longer can do so because they have no immune system) Your analogy sounds more like *cancer* not AIDS. Though self-hatred IS cancer to certain communities so...
Grimoire666 Potential extra layer of hellish terror : That leftover "rubber mask" of his would not have been in one piece after that Dip soak, because *acetone* by itself makes short work of rubber. In the original script, Doom's face is described as being cadaver-like. Maybe that's just it : the "mask" was really the flesh of one of Doom's human victims. Sweet Dreams 😈😈😈
My God! This brings back so many memories of first seeing this in theaters! Not knowing what to expect, this part scared the ever loving you-know-what out of me when he turned around and revealed those eyes and spoke in that voice. I'm over it now but still... Watership Down scariest movie with a rabbit in it? I think NOT!
This whole music is a complete masterpiece. Just hearing this, i feel like its back to the future instead of roger rabbit. But christopher Lloyd being in movies with music scores by alan silvestri is absolutely perfect. Its mostly Docs music scores
I was so surprised to learn the beginning of the music was used for the teaser trailer for Pooh's Heffalump Movie. Saved for the actual fact Jim Cummings who does Pooh and Tigger starred in Roger Rabbit as the Toon Bullet with the moustasche imitating Andy Devine.
@Stefano Pavone The kids watching this film for the first time: "Oh this is fun! Donald, Mickey, Bugs, Daffy all together and the goofy cartoon rabbit is funny and..." (This scene pops up) "MOMMIEEEEEEEEEE!!!!"
Same here... Damn, that was some scray stuff for me back then. Also had kind-of-nightmares. But that didn't keep the movie from beeing my absolute favourite film of my pre-teen years. *lol*
0:00-0:30 Announcer: Coming only to theaters, February 2005. There something mysterious in the 100 Acre Wood. (elephant trumpeting) (Pooh gasped) Announcer: Something strange. (Piglet gasped) Announcer: Something different. (elephant trumpeting) (Tigger gasped) Piglet: It came at me! Roo: I heard that really neat sound! Tigger: There was zillion of them. Pooh: It was terrible. Rabbit: What is all about? Tigger: It chilled me to the bone! Roo: I was asleep! Rabbit: ONE AT A TIME!!!!
Holy Smoke he’s a toon! Surprised? Not really. That lame brain freeway idea could only have been cooked up by a toon. (Evil smile spreads across face). Not just A toooon!
Eddie: Holy Smoke he's a toon! Doom: Surprised? Eddie: Not really. That lame brain freeway idea could only have been cooked up by a toon. Eddie's thoughts: Good save. Hide your shock. Don't let him get to you. You're a cool headed detective. Doom: Not just any toon! Eddie thoughts: Why is he going to that balloon inflator? Why is he sucking in the air to inflate himself? Why did his hat blow off? Why did his eyes pop out? .....Are his eyes red? Doom: Remember me Eddie? When I killed your brother, I talked....Just LIKE THISSS! Eddie thoughts: You have every right to be scared.....shutting down now.
Descole Cinquanteneuf Not just any toon~! (Doom inflates himself revealing himself as who he really is. ) Remember me, Eddie? When I killed your brother I talked JUST. LIKE! THIIIIIIIS!
0:51 - If Nui Harime and Ryuko Matoi were in this scenerio, it would play out something like this: 'Remember me, Ryuko?! When I killed your daddy, I talked... JUST... LIKE... THIIISS!'
I just find that bizarre that this was used for a trailer for a Winnie the Pooh film considering how innocent and harmless Pooh is. I mean the Heffalumps and Woozles song in Many Adventures was creepy but it was still pretty safe compared to the horrors of this scene.
In Latin Spanish: "¡SANTO CIELO, ES UNA CARICATURA!" "¿Sorprendido?" "En realidad no, la estúpida idea de una autopista solo podría venir de una caricatura." "¡Pero no cualquier caricatura!" "¿Me recuerdas Eddie?, cuando mate a tu hermano, yo hablaba... ¡MÁS O MENOS ASÍ!"
Murielle Ladouceur The comics explained that Doom used to be a toon named Baron von Rotten, who excelled in playing villains in many cartoons, until a blow to the head twisted his personality, making him believe he WAS a villain, and not just an actor.
Compared to THIS??? And Predator? And BTTF? And the Abyss? And Death Becomes Her? Nothing memorable or stirring or affecting about it. In fact, all the Avengers films suffer from a distinct lack of decent scoring. Look at what X-Men have done; First Class's Magneto theme is so utterly powerful and badass. Weirdly, that boring Hulk film was the only one that seemed to make the effort to put actual recognisable themes into its music.
Which are both terrible, boring, samey scores with no memorable themes to speak of. Listening to this just cements my theory that the older composers get, the shittier their music becomes, probably due to complete lack of interest.
"HOLY SMOKE, HE'S A TOON!"
"SuRpRiSeD??"
"Not really. The idea of a lame brained freeway could only be cooked up by a toon."
"NoT jUsT aNy ToOn!"
Remember me, Eddie?
When i killed your brother, i talked JUST LIKE THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS
I would probably say
“An evil toon” 😈
¡Santo Cielo Es Una Caricatura!
Willy Brand Eddie Valiant Protagonistas Héroes Buenos
Remember me, Eddie!? WHEN I KILLED YOUR BROTHER, I TALKED. *JUST. LIKE. THIIIIIIIIIIIIS*!!!!!
It was actually foreshadowed the whole time even in the music. There were brief instances in his main theme that a humorous tune was heard in the very grim and ominous music. The theme then explodes into a bombastic, circus-esque theme that is eerie, disturbing and unnaturally threatening. Much like the deranged clown what Doom turns out to be.
by bombastic do you mean 0:00 or 1:23?
Olivier Marti 1:15-1:25
A lot of trumpets in that piece hence the "bombastic" description.
An assault on the hearing senses just as much as his toon form & abilities are an assault on one's vision.
+Brady Hartsfield Gracias
I definitely hear little hints of the Toontown theme in his music indicating his true nature.
I love how much they subtly hinted at that twist throughout the movie. Little things like his really goofy penmanship and the fact that he gets so genuinely scared when Roger and Eddie knock over the vat of Dip in the bar and he scrambles to get away. It's so cool to see how many little things in the movie take in a different context on second and third and 90th viewing. I love this movie!
Or how Judge Doom speaks and dresses like some 1890s baron in 1940s LA.
If you're at a point in the film where you still believe Doom is human, this *could* be explained away by him being a snobby out of touch "Mr. Burns" type who doesn't keep up with modern times or feels he's above it all...Especially since he had the money to bribe for Toontown votes to get elected as the judge and buy stock in Cloverleaf etc...
Except it's all revealed the persona is merely a TOON'S perception of a sophisticated, sane respected man and/or a toon overcompensating, and the only reason he was so loaded was from robbing the First National Bank of Toontown and murdered Teddy Valiant to get away.
EDIT : And Doom's rigid body language and mannerisms. Like the way he hunches his shoulders and tilts forward when he's irate....The only other character in media I have seen do that is the Chuck Jones' Daffy Duck.
@@msannethropp7497 Oh for sure. He tries a little bit TOO hard to be normal and controlled in his mannerisms, with overly articulate speech patterns and very stilted movements.
Then there's the fact that when he dips the shoe, he puts on big rubber gloves over the gloves he's already wearing and in spite of wearing two very thick layers of gloves still reacts very strongly to a joybuzzer.
It really is a masterful performance, since so much of it can be explained away without a second thought. He's afraid of dip because (he's a toon so its lethal to him) it has nasty chemicals in it that everyone would be afraid of, he knows toons inside and out because (he is one) he presides over them and spends a lot of time around them, he speaks with extreme precision because (he's compensating for wearing false teeth) he's in love with his own authority.
The list goes on and its just a testament to how really well done this movie is
@@dangerdanjerz1479 Doom hates for the weasels to laugh (*because he gets triggered and reminded of what he's trying to run away from, and it threatens to publically out him "Have you forgetten what happened the last time?!??" as his voice cracks*) so they don't die before fulfilling all of the henchman duties.
Doom wants to obliterate Toontown for a freeway (*because he is NOT your good toon or your toy or dancing slave like all the other toons. He's here to make YOU the miserable consumerist slave and corporate cog with no goody goody toons around to lift you up. Also convincing you humans that toons are a psychotic menace to society, then eradicate them only to secretly BE that true psychotic menace, to freely murder more humans who cannot defend themselves against what they believe is another human. That is the greatest troll of all time. No toon can resist being a troll*) because he's the typical greedy villain who craves world domination so even the money he has now is not enough. And he's a toon-hating meanie.
Lloyd apparently read Judge Doom's introduction scene and already figured out that he was playing a toon mimicking a man before Zemeckis explained it to him, which is probably why he was so outstanding.
Also when he trips on the eyes before Eddies big number, you can see he’s covering one of his own. So one of his fake eyes must’ve fallen out when he fell.
This scene scared the hell out of me when I was a kid
cartoon Judge was creepy as hell, but Christopher Lloyd does a great villain!
Me the seme 😱😜
Well, if I remember right, he was the Klingon who killed Captain Kirk's son.
I have to admit- normally, in movies, I'm able to figure out who the real villain is about halfway... but I first saw this movie, I never saw this one coming.
This music really captured the eeriness of Flat Doom, which is an creepy effect with its CGI/stop motion feel before it descends into an intense fight of survival with the now powerful and lucid Doom.
Flat Doom is hand-drawn - this was before mainstream CGI had really come into its own. If you look closely, the character's not interacting with anything real.
@@zbr76 Actually flattened Judge Doom was a stop motion puppet. Zemeckis said so himself on the DVD commentary. Said that he still has it in his office.
0:50 "Remember me, Eddie?! (Voice gets squeakier) When I killed your brother, I talked... (Voice gets even more squeakier) JUST... LIKE... THIS!!!!!"
And all the kids watching were like O_O!!!!!!! Scared to death!
That’s not a creature of god.
Christopher Scholl You’re right! THE DEVIL HAS GOT HIM!!!! 😱😱😱
Jumping Jeepers
I remember for a while not being able to look at the various cartoon characters who appeared in this the same way just because of this scene. Seeing Mickey Mouse or Bugs Bunny in one of their respective cartoons you remember...Oh yes they were in that one movie with the creepy judge guy.
This music will always haunt me. I can handle it now, but when I first saw this movie as an 8 year old kid, I was petrified. I couldn't watch this movie for years, and when I began to watch it again, I would always look away until Doom was melted. Those eyes STILL creep me out though
MnMsandOreos I was the same way.....Doom in this final battle scared me to where I couldnt watch this movie for 3 years.
Ooh, this song used to give me chills! Still does!
Those burning red eyes of Judge Doom's true form still scares me to this day. 8-(
Judge Doom: >8-D
I already knew Doom was the villain when I first saw this. The twist that got me was the fact that he was a Toon.
People have apparently done some actual detective work and may have figured out Doom's identity: In Maroon's office there's a framed poster on the wall featuring a Toon named "Pistol Packin Possum." This poster is hanged up right next to a Roger Rabbit poster in such a way that the pistol the Possum is packing is aimed at Roger's head. This could just be a coincidence if not for the fact that during the scene when Doom murders Maroon, Eddie catches a glimpse of the reflection of Doom's pistol in this very same poster, and Doom's pistol is reflected in the poster's glass in such a way that it completely lines up with the Possum's pistol. Ergo, it's the exact same gun model. On top of all this, the Pistol Packin Possum also wears clothes strikingly similar to Doom's, have eyes of the same red colour as Doom's eyes, and his fur is of a yellow colour strikingly similar to the golden colour of Doom's hands when he pulls off his gloves.
@@GrahamChapman I always figured that out but I don't remember the fur looking yellow 🤔
@@GrahamChapman I don't know if this is cannon, but there's a sequel to this movie in a comic called Ressurection of Doom.
@@LadyVoldo Yeah, I've read it. But I don't really consider it a part of the main Roger Rabbit canon: None of the original creators were involved in the creation of the comic, and more than anything else it felt like poorly-inspired fanfiction written by someone who hadn't put in any detective work themselves... You know how the vast majority of Dragon Ball and Naruto movies are blatantly based on the latest story arc? Like how Tree of Might was heavily influenced by the Saiyan invasion arc, and the Cooler movies were discount versions of the Freeza arc, and the Bojack movie was blatantly based on the Cell Games arc, and etc, etc? That's kinda what I feel that Resurrection of Doom was like, but for Roger Rabbit... :/
@@GrahamChapman I totally get it. Ah a fellow Dragon Ball fan too.
I love how the action just picks up at 1:17
--- FINAL BOSS---
FIGHT!!!
Starts at 1:16.
2:45 - Baron Von Rotten: [A la The Wicked Witch of the West from "The Wizard of Oz" (1939)] Woo-hoooooo! Whaaaaaa! Oh, noooo! Wha-whaaaaa! I'm melting! Oh, what a world! Wha-whaaaaa! I'm melting, melting! Wha-wha-what! Oh, no!
Naminski I love how melodramatic that music and Doom himself is when he's melting, in contrast to how nonchalant and deadpan he was about killing others. That's kind of hilarious in a twisted way.
0:00 - 0:40 I actually like his toon theme a lot more than his regular theme
1:16 Sounds like Back to the Future music.
I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on, all day, all night! Soon, where Toontown once stood, will be a string of gas stations, inexpensive motels, restaurants that serve rapidly prepared food, tire salons, automobile dealerships, and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see! My God, it'll be beautiful.
Oh man!!! I have always loved this music! So haunting and yet it really brings in the intensity to the fight between Doom and Eddie!
Listening to this music while watching the movie makes me realize Doom was one of the worst nightmares made into reality. A seemingly ruthless and cold hearted man who seems to be your typical card carrying human villain racist.....until he reveals his true Toon nature- an unnatural moving abomination that is neither real or fully traditionally animated....before revealing he's a red eyed Toon bigot of madness with enough of a live action presence that you could buy he could be anywhere or anyone because he was never revealed beyond his eyes and hand, both of which, change in shape and design.
Doom is one of those hellish terrors that creeped out of the darkest recesses of the human mind.
I believe Doom is an allegory of the Aids virus. I mean he was declining to insanity, and when his identity is revealed his eyes were like the red eyes of the disease, madness unraveled and when he melts away it was also to symbolized as the victim of the disease dying in a hospital bed, him saying "I'm melting" felt as if he was demanding to find his meds and after he said "Oh. No" he's dead and the last dead beet of the music sounded suspiciously like a flat-line.
Grimoire, Grimoire.. again making my day👍👍
Christopher Scholl Judge Doom is actually an *extreme* allegory for self-hating minorities.
Roger repeatedly says that a toon's purpose in life is to entertain people, and he loves getting laughs at his own expense.
Doom not only longs to be taken seriously and viewed as a visionary, he *despises* the very concepts of laughter and comedy. He had no concern for the well-being of his henchmen (I'm sure he was going to erase them once they were no longer useful) It's that he became infuriated (and emotionally frayed) with getting confronted with reality : his "audience" of weasels laughing at him doing toon stuff. And since he was in a room full of *actual* human beings the first time, he was worried about getting outed. After he's "outed" later that's when he completely loses it.
Despite being insane, Doom manages to have enough self-awareness to know that a toon's life has no value to mainstream human society *and even says that in so many words* during his Freeway monologue. A similiar observation is typically at the root of a minority's motive to hate their own kind or want to "pass".
Speaking of "passing" you *are* correct that as the film goes on Judge Doom's facade of a "sane human" is progressively eroding. It's apparent during "Shave and a Haircut" (he moves his head to the beat of "Haircut" knocking at first, then is actually singing it right before Roger succumbs to it) and when he gets shot by Jessica in the alley.
*Not only* because Doom wasn't remotely harmed by a bullet, but he lets out a high-pitched yelp when shot. And his "You'll Never Stop Me!" spiel sounded different than his usual 19th century stoicism. That cadence and delivery was pretty simplistic & almost childlike (how most toons speak), as was his whole "Remembuh Me, Eddie?..." thing.
When everyone's at the Gag Factory, even though he's back to being reserved his "monologuing" & "Whiplashing" are things that *human* scoundrels generally don't have time for & don't indulge in.
The film shows us that although he's putting forth a lot of effort and energy into passing for human, Doom cannot completely suppress what he naturally is.
Before anyone gets offended with the "minority" comparison, I AM a minority. Just calling it how I see it.
Christopher Scholl What's more, not to be pedantic but : the issue with the AIDS analogy is that patients with AIDS ultimately die of whatever otherwise *common* ailment & infection that other people can fend off (they no longer can do so because they have no immune system)
Your analogy sounds more like *cancer* not AIDS. Though self-hatred IS cancer to certain communities so...
Grimoire666 Potential extra layer of hellish terror :
That leftover "rubber mask" of his would not have been in one piece after that Dip soak, because *acetone* by itself makes short work of rubber.
In the original script, Doom's face is described as being cadaver-like. Maybe that's just it : the "mask" was really the flesh of one of Doom's human victims.
Sweet Dreams 😈😈😈
My God! This brings back so many memories of first seeing this in theaters! Not knowing what to expect, this part scared the ever loving you-know-what out of me when he turned around and revealed those eyes and spoke in that voice. I'm over it now but still... Watership Down scariest movie with a rabbit in it? I think NOT!
This whole music is a complete masterpiece. Just hearing this, i feel like its back to the future instead of roger rabbit. But christopher Lloyd being in movies with music scores by alan silvestri is absolutely perfect. Its mostly Docs music scores
I was so surprised to learn the beginning of the music was used for the teaser trailer for Pooh's Heffalump Movie. Saved for the actual fact Jim Cummings who does Pooh and Tigger starred in Roger Rabbit as the Toon Bullet with the moustasche imitating Andy Devine.
Great Scott Marty. He’s a toon!!
Surprised?
And would Marty care?
@Emily Morgan could you do the full quote please?
I wonder how serious toons like Batman, Superman, He-Man and the Thundercats will be like if they stayed in ToonTown for too long.
even the music sends a shiver down the spine, brilliant score
HOLY SMOKES! HE'S A TOON!
Surprised?!
Not really. The idea of a lame brained freeway could only be cooked up by a toon.
NOT JUST ANY TOON!!
REMEMBER ME, EDDIE?!! (voice gets higher and higher) WHEN I KILLED YOUR BROTHER I TALKED...JUST...LIKE...THIIIIIIIIIS!!!!
+jackielantern6 Jumping jeepers! :O
Stefano Pavone Agreed 0_0"
@Stefano Pavone The kids watching this film for the first time: "Oh this is fun! Donald, Mickey, Bugs, Daffy all together and the goofy cartoon rabbit is funny and..." (This scene pops up) "MOMMIEEEEEEEEEE!!!!"
I'm melting! Melting!! What a world! Oh-no! And death
Back to the Future, Predator, and Who Framed Roger Rabbit are Alan Silvestri's best scores.
He's usually done music for movies Robert Zemeckis has directed.
Don't forget Avengers =)
A lot of this is the same as predator
Same here... Damn, that was some scray stuff for me back then. Also had kind-of-nightmares. But that didn't keep the movie from beeing my absolute favourite film of my pre-teen years. *lol*
My lovely movie
Judge Doom ain't A toon!
He's THE toon!
the first 27 seconds of this are used in the teaser trailer for Pooh's Heffalump Movie.
Judge Doom Feeds On Your Fears I Love It XD
love this musical by Alan Silvestri.
HOLY SMOKES HE'S A TOON!!!!!!
SURPRISED?!
@@emilypetsche1 Not really,that lambbrain idea can only cooked by a Toon!
NOT JUST A TOON!!!
(Doom walk into a oxygen tank and "re-full" himself with oxygen,his fake eyes also drop out his face in progress)
REMEMBER ME, EDDIE? WHEN I KILLED YOUR BROTHER, I TALKED JUST. LIKE. THIIIIIIS!
It's like hearing a darker version of Back to the Future
Eddie, do something!!
Hurry up, Eddie!!
Do something!!
"Remember me, Eddie? When I killed your brother, I talked... just... like... THIS!"
I like the part when Judge Doom transforme his hand into a avel and a buzzsaw
Reminds you of Carnage, doesn't it?
Who?
0:00-0:30
Announcer: Coming only to theaters, February 2005. There something mysterious in the 100 Acre Wood.
(elephant trumpeting)
(Pooh gasped)
Announcer: Something strange.
(Piglet gasped)
Announcer: Something different.
(elephant trumpeting)
(Tigger gasped)
Piglet: It came at me!
Roo: I heard that really neat sound!
Tigger: There was zillion of them.
Pooh: It was terrible.
Rabbit: What is all about?
Tigger: It chilled me to the bone!
Roo: I was asleep!
Rabbit: ONE AT A TIME!!!!
That's how I remembered it!
Thank you. Now what is going...?
@@sonicranger8481 Oh, pick me! Me me me me me!
@@Princess_-gp3ep Uh, Tigger?
"Remember me, Eddie?! When I killed your brother.... (high-pitched voice) I talked... JUST... LIKE... THIIIIIIIIIISSS!!!!"
This scene is creepy even now, and the music has a lot to do with that.
Holy cow its from the trailer pools heffelump movie
“Remember me, Eddie? When I KILLED your brother, I talked... JUST... LIKE... THIS!!!!!!”
I can't believe this is the same guy who scored the Avengers movies!!
Holy Smoke he’s a toon!
Surprised?
Not really. That lame brain freeway idea could only have been cooked up by a toon.
(Evil smile spreads across face). Not just A toooon!
Eddie: Holy Smoke he's a toon!
Doom: Surprised?
Eddie: Not really. That lame brain freeway idea could only have been cooked up by a toon.
Eddie's thoughts: Good save. Hide your shock. Don't let him get to you. You're a cool headed detective.
Doom: Not just any toon!
Eddie thoughts: Why is he going to that balloon inflator? Why is he sucking in the air to inflate himself? Why did his hat blow off? Why did his eyes pop out? .....Are his eyes red?
Doom: Remember me Eddie? When I killed your brother, I talked....Just LIKE THISSS!
Eddie thoughts: You have every right to be scared.....shutting down now.
@@animefan77 Jumpin' jeepers!
and THE MUMMY RETURNS and VAN HELSING
Love song 🎵
I think I'm gonna faint.
"Remember me, Eddie?! When I killed your brother I talked JUST...LIKE...THIIIIIIIIIIISSS!!!!!"
This score can also be found on the theatrical trailer of Pooh's heffalump movie.😂
HOLY SMOKE, HE'S A TOON!
Surprised?
Ian Greene Not really.
+Joseph Wagner That lame brain freeway idea couldn't be caught up by a toon.
Descole Cinquanteneuf Not just any toon~! (Doom inflates himself revealing himself as who he really is. ) Remember me, Eddie? When I killed your brother I talked JUST. LIKE! THIIIIIIIS!
Jumping Jeepers!
Without the song I will never had nightmares
The Pistol Packin' Possum framed Roger Rabbit.
0:50 Rememeber me Eddie! When I killed your brother I talked JUST LIKE THIS!!!
Doom's transformation
Is it just me or in some parts of the music from this beautiful movie I'm catching a 'Back to the Future' vibe...
0:51 - If Nui Harime and Ryuko Matoi were in this scenerio, it would play out something like this:
'Remember me, Ryuko?! When I killed your daddy, I talked... JUST... LIKE... THIIISS!'
Nice Movie Music!
POOH'S HEFFALUMP MOVIE TRAILER brought me here.
Same with me.
@@jonmeyer3076 The trailer for Winnie The Pooh Blood And Honey should of had this theme in it.
@@XXLSSBBW i hope so.
Those and The Abyss.
Baron Von Rotten
Doom transforms
Currently in Marvel movies in Captain America The First Avengers and Marvel's The Avengers
ramdelure And returned for Infinity War.
EDDIE LOOK!!!!
(Seeing Judge Doom sprung back to life)
This soundtrack sounds a bit like that of Predator 2!
Get to the chopper!
do you know what song it is
The main theme of Predator of course.
and Captain America The First Avenger (2011)
Jumpin Jesus!!!!!!
*_REMEMBER ME, EDDIE??_*
From the first trailer of Poohs Heffalump Movie.
Oh my god, I can't believe you remembered that too!
Glad I'm not the only one who remembers.
I just find that bizarre that this was used for a trailer for a Winnie the Pooh film considering how innocent and harmless Pooh is. I mean the Heffalumps and Woozles song in Many Adventures was creepy but it was still pretty safe compared to the horrors of this scene.
Wait...WHAT?!?!? I'm going to rewatch it right now!
Imagine if Jerry Goldsmith were to compose the movie's music.
He'd make it even more disturbing.
0:48 the twist. It would have been cool if he used his eye daggers
Final battle scene
Would've sounded a bit Jerry Goldsmith, but this score is still amazing anyway.
0:02 The Soundtrack Sound Like The Trailer On Pooh's Heffalump Movie
This is the music of how marx from kirby super star ever come back for revenge
Red Kirby
And how he came back for another sequel.
Holy crap! He's a toon!! 😱😱
Natalie Hughes Not just any toon!!!
1993seanmcg That man is a half human, half toon! 😨
Jessica: I think I'm gonna faint?
Me: Me too.
Don't forget "The Avengers (2012)"
In Latin Spanish:
"¡SANTO CIELO, ES UNA CARICATURA!"
"¿Sorprendido?"
"En realidad no, la estúpida idea de una autopista solo podría venir de una caricatura."
"¡Pero no cualquier caricatura!"
"¿Me recuerdas Eddie?, cuando mate a tu hermano, yo hablaba... ¡MÁS O MENOS ASÍ!"
Not just *A* toon!
NON D'UNE PIPE C'EST UN TOON!!!
I always wondered... Who drew Doom? O_o
You have just blown my motherfucking mind.
....
....
Well, you can just rock me to sleep tonight!
Satan
Charles Manson?
Murielle Ladouceur The comics explained that Doom used to be a toon named Baron von Rotten, who excelled in playing villains in many cartoons, until a blow to the head twisted his personality, making him believe he WAS a villain, and not just an actor.
That also from Pooh's hefelump Movie trailer
Correct
is true name was baron von rotten a toon of the thousand faces and the killer of valiant's brother
Why 1980's is dark kids movies and roger rabbit is one of theses why companys are crearin all scary stuff
Originally, Tim Curry was supposed to play Judge Doom, now imagine those scenes with HIM in the role, instead of Christopher Lloyd...!
Very PERMANENT trauma..
I say Judge Doom is down and out.
This could be suit for the tatmr chase secne
*Doom making noises* wololololololololololololo
Holly smokes he’s a toon !
Surprised?
Not really not a lame brained freeway could be cook up by a toon
Not just any toon!!!
Eddie : gasp
Remember me Eddie?!! When I killed your brother...I talked...JUST LIKE TTTHHHIIISSS!!!
Top 10 Disney villans trasformiation
Doom's not disney
Compared to THIS??? And Predator? And BTTF? And the Abyss? And Death Becomes Her? Nothing memorable or stirring or affecting about it. In fact, all the Avengers films suffer from a distinct lack of decent scoring. Look at what X-Men have done; First Class's Magneto theme is so utterly powerful and badass. Weirdly, that boring Hulk film was the only one that seemed to make the effort to put actual recognisable themes into its music.
Am I the only one who's thinking Titanic soundtrack when listening to this?
Me Recuerdas Eddie Cuando Mate A Tu Hermano Yo Hablaba Mas o Menos Así!".
El Juez Doom
Sounds like Predator.
Cytro Max Steel Bio Crisis: Ha Fallado Su Alteza Soy Un Jedi Tal Como Mi Padre Antes De Mí
Juez Doom: Como Quieras Jedi
Caricatura Juez Doom: Ahora Luke Skywalker Morirás
and Forrest Gump.
0:50
Jerk, Marvel's The Avengers had a best OST
Which are both terrible, boring, samey scores with no memorable themes to speak of. Listening to this just cements my theory that the older composers get, the shittier their music becomes, probably due to complete lack of interest.
GeekVessel What are you on about??