P3008 VW 1.4TSI Timing Chain Replacement
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• P0016 VW 1.4tsi Timing... another timing chain failure on the 1.4TSI.
A video showing how to replace the timing chain on a ea111 1.4tsi. This MK5 Golf GT came in running rough and had a P3008 fault code logged for the G40 camshaft sensor - signal out of range. I tested the cam sensor wiring and had a 5 volt reference, and a square wave hall sensor switching 5v down to 0v tested on a PICO oscilloscope, and a good earth. So the cam sensor is working ok. I checked the timing with the locking tools and found both cams to be advanced in relation to the crankshaft timing. This confirmed our suspicions of a timing problem. I stripped down the timing cover and found a stretched timing chain. The chain was so stretched that the tensioner allowed the chain to jump on the crank (the cams were in time to one another still). The timing chain, tensioner, and guides were replaced and the issue rectified.
P0016 000022 16400 Bank 1: Camshaft Position Sensor (G40) / Engine Speed Sensor (G28): Incorrect Correlation
#1.4tsi #volkswagen #timing chain - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Nice work. Finally I found a good short and informative video of this job, Bought the kit since I will have to do this job quite often (every 50.000 says the experts). Hope I get it right. Thanks Four Rings Auto.
Thanks guys for a brilliant video. Good to see someone who knows what they are doing.
Nice guide mate you're voice is so calm and clear got the job done💪🏼
I'm just a doctor trying to understand how my 1.4tsi is workin'. Awesome explanation! Thanks for your time.
So glad I watched this before doing my first one of these later today. Thanks!
Just about to pull down a 1.4TSi CAVE because of a dud piston. This video has been very useful. Subscribed.
Your a really good tech mate, I've got 1 of these in work on Tuesday, thanks for the video 👌👍
3:35 Your glove made me laugh by showing how intensive process was :D
Thank you for great video!
Hahaha yep it's a little bit like that!
@@FourRingsAuto get some knit gloves like Ansell 11-939. They don't rip since they are fabric and they protect against oil. Nitrile gloves are horrible to do this type of job, I went through 4 pairs in one 2.0 TSFI timing chain job.
Legend helped me out no end
Incredible description
Great video, very well described. I had a rattle on startup for a few years until I got it fixed at the dealer. The rattle only lasted a few seconds and They said it was the timing chain tensioner. Never sure if that was the case or not, but at least I know where all the parts are now.
Thanks so much for this. Really helping in doping sa,me job on 1.4 TSi Jetta.
Subbed. Great video. 1.4 TSI BMY owner here. Lovely quality film job. Shame these engines are so damn complicated, yet so clever.
Hy Daniel! It's been 3 years now, do you still have the car? How is the engine and what's your opinion, I just bought a second hand 150000 miles on dash VW Touran with the 1.4 bmy and I'm quite concerned about its reliability. My car has a dsg6 automatic gearbox, I dive like am old man, would last a long time of I look after it changing the oils, filters and timing chain in time? Cheers!
@@soareandrei6504 DSG 6 is very good. Just change the gearbox oil at a workshop that has done it before.
The engine is not reliable. I still have it and love it, but it is very fragile.
Change the engine oil to 5W30 Castrol LL (504/507.000) at MAX 10.000km...
I still drive it, but a lot can go wrong on these.
If you change the timing chain, then to a complete change. Also the timing gears, rails and check the other chain to the oil pump.
A full original set from VW with everything is about €900-1000 for the parts, but it has every thing for a complete timing chain change.
The water pump drives the supercharger, so if that breaks it is about €500 for the part alone + labour.
Spark plugs and coils are not the best either, but I keep mine.
@@soareandrei6504 I have written a long reply, but I can't see it. Can you?
I can see it
@@FourRingsAuto Good. Fun fact, today the air condition bolt for the compressor broke (I think), making a lovely metallic sound.
I love it!
KNOWLEDGEABLE Four Rings Auto
God bless you for sharing it loved it
Thank you ,take care and have a great Evening
SUBSTANTIAL Four Rings Auto
From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧
Love to see work done on 1.4 twincharged.. hard to find quality videos
Thanks for your feedback and glad i could help. Hit Subscribe if you want to see more as I'm always working on the 1.4TSI. Thanks again.
Nice video bro👍 very well explained
Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated.
This is a very good helpful vid
Hi, when I opened the timing chain cover/housing then found timing chain was almost off the exhaust sprocket. Tensioner was fully released, timing chain almost touching in the middle at guides. One of the screws was lying at bottom of chain housing, bolt smashed, suffered blows from chain, pulleys etc. Do new timing chain to install.
Most importantly, best way to achieve TDC is by TDC gauge. It’s more accurate than “drop screw in cylinder” method, and through piston stop tool. I have also removed sump so when it cylinder1 was at TDC, I checked crank shaft lobes from underneath , they were parallel to ground and locking tool goes straight into side of crank lobes. Hope that helps if somebody else is in same situation as me.
there's a locking pin for TDC on the back though. The gauge as far as I'm aware is to "check" the timing chain easily and is utterly pointless to use in the actual timing of the engine. The difference between TDC on the gauge and TDC on the crank lock pin is literally a fag paper. If you were there trying to keep dead TDC on the gauge you'd have a right headache.
No question a GREAT video from a highly experienced tech! As a 10 plus year GM tech and R&R cars/trucks for over 20 years with many brands i just cant with VEE TROUBLE EWE. They are nothing but expensive issues that few (aside from the dealers) are willing to tackle. This applies to all Audi too (same company). However this person gave some incredible pro info! MUCH RESPECT! Just for fun whats the flat rate time on this job?
Hi, great video! Quick question, I believe the valves on my cylinder head may be bent so will need to remove and rework/replace. Do you have info on where to purchase/gain info on torque settings on this particular engine for cylinder head bolts? Much appreciated thanks
Hi great video I’m in the middle of doing my chain on my 1.4tsi twincharged but I have no Clue how to set the camshaft as mines has jumped and don’t know how to get them to set properly
Hey man
Thanks for the video it helped heaps 👍
Ive done everything correctly and how ypu did on the video, although im noticing my chain still has the smallest bit of slack. And ny camshaft tool doesnt really slide in properly as it should.
Any advice?
Thanks
Great video, I’ve had 2 tensioners fail in the last 4 months due to broken internal springs, from what I gather is from lack of oil flow to the tensioner,any idea where the tensioner gets it oil flow from? Follow the passage I think up to the vvt but I am unsure
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Thank thank thank thaaaannnkkk you!! I just changed my valves and timing chain watching your video. However car running good BUT fault code keeps coming back p001600. Should I replace the sensors?
Then I am hearing like a tiking noise, apparently this is my new hydraulic lifters, the noise comes and goes. Also I noticed my supercharger is not kicking in, I did also replace the waterpump
Great video. What number vag kit is it as I carnt find a 3 piece kit .
Ie dail gauge / cam locking tool/crank shaft locking pin for tdc
Great video, I have 140k on my Jetta (1.4TSI) CAVD.
Is there a way of knowing which kit is "upgraded" compared to CAVD parts?
Should I do the chain if the car is running fine with no rattle?
Hi great video 👍🏻 can i ask do you need to set the VVT in a particular way before locking the bolt?
Hey great video. I’m going to do this as my 1.4 gt is rattling on startup. I travel a lot and the car sits still for 1 month at a time. The rattling can be for up to 15 seconds after a month with no use.
Please when we have to change it thanks in advance
Is there anything that can be done to stop the timing chain from slipping? At least less often than it happens. Like using better chains or tensioner
Thanks
Is the timing tool that you used different from the one used to time a CLP 1.4 and CLS 1.6 Engines found in Polo Vivo in RSA?
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18:35 can you comment on that breather pile / hose? My 1.4 TSI BMY just got it's timing chain changed at a VW dealership, and they did not change it to the new version that is made of rubber. Should I be worried?
Tomorrow I have one 😊 to do
Hi. Very concerned before i strip down, can you tell me, is it correct for the exhaust cam to have longitudinal play? When i was tightening the bolt, the cam moved back, and popped the rear cam alignment tool out 😅.
Cheers
I have to do this job very soon, just waiting on camshaft locking kit to arrive,mine should be a bit easier because I have removed the engine to replace possible cracked pistons ?, thanks for this video it will help a lot !
I have another video of doing it with engine out.
Love your video on this. What are the common issues on this engine (170hp, 1.4TSI Golf Sport)?
I have a playlist on my channel. Water pumps, timing chains, inlet regulating flaps, pistons...
once the camshaft locking tool is in the camshafts are locked but the camshaft gears can move is there are certain way they have to be timed or along as the camshaft locking tool keeps the cams locked it fine
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BTW! Where is the camshaft sensor located?
what tool did you use to release the tension from the supercharger tensioner belt?
P3008 A fost depășită limita semnalului senzorului de poziție a arborelui cu came (CMP) Rotația necorespunzătoare, alinierea arborelui cu came
Did you have to take the supercharger cover off to access the supercharger belt tensioner pulley?
Why were you measuring tdc from the right side? I thought the piston closest to the timing gears was piston 1 and was the one set to tdc for timing setup
our car has had a chain kit / tensioner etc fitted along with noisy water pump replacement ,now runs fine , very slight idle misfire but drives perfectly.But is throwing up engine check light and p3008 fault code . Any ideas as the garage is going to charge to look at it again
If you were to change it does the cam adjuster pulley have a specific position?
hi , a question please ..is that cylinder 4 on compression stroke ? and 1 on exhaust?
Great video. Maybe i missed it but the replacement chain TENSIONER You replaced ,is it an upgraded version of the original and less likely to being changed every 100000 KMs? I mean how often should a timing chain TENSIONER should last for in the 1.4 TSI engine? A family member here in Australia is going through same issue and VW Australia are claiming that a case like this has never happened in Australia. Just out of warranty and just clocked around 100000kms always serviced by VW. IF this is a design issue surely there is a class action with this??
Hey guys!
As i am now part of the wonderful statistics of 😭vw tsi owners that have a scrapped engine due to broken timingchain, bent valves etc.
I now have a question regarding my tiguan with the 1.4tsi bwk engine.
Can i replace the broken bwk engine that originally came with the car for a cava engine instead?
If so, what other things would i need to change on the car?
Would i need to replace the ecu?.
Have a Great one!
Good explanation 👍 But when i search for that Item nr H.C.B-B 1413 i only find the tools for FSI not TSI! Is it the same tool?
I'm just about take over my neighbours 2007 DSG Golf with this engine ( BLG ) , unfortunately been diagnosed with slipped timing chain and no compression on cylinders 2 and 3. Trying to build up some knowledge about the problems with these engines and your video is excellent altho' I'll be entrusting the job to my VW specialist garage for sure due to the need for the specialist diagnostic equipment as well as the kit for setting everything up. Not sure of what damage has been done in the two cylinders so it may be a costly job I fear.
Most likely cracked ring lands unfortunately!
@@19jacobob93 Ring lands ? what part of the engine is that ?
The side of the piston where the piston ring goes in is the ring groove. The piece that supports the ring groove is referred to as the ring land. They are common on 1.4tsi ea111 engines to crack at the ring lands due to poor castjng of the pistons. I have another video showing this. It causes low compression misfires.
@@FourRingsAuto Wow, you never stop learning, many thanks for the comprehensive reply and at the ripe old age of 74 had never heard the expression/description "ring lands". Thank you and its obvious that the 1.4tsi engine you describe has not been one of VW's greatest successes. I wonder who they sourced to make up those poorly cast pistons ?
@@PATWENTY8R they are Mahle from factory. New part number goes to kolbenschmidt. Built to a budget and vw penny pinching is likely.
Hi, nice video, thanks.
How to check timing without dismantling timing chain cover? Because on this model full cover need to be removed to access chain. Can I do it by removing camshaft cover plates and check whether both camshaft in certain specified angle to fit the camshaft tool properly? If both camshaft holes are as specified in repair manual (45 degree) then does this means timing is fine? Look to your reply,
Yes that is correct. Remove the plugs at the gearbox end of the engine, and remove the spark plug from cylinder 1 and check it's at TDC.
Four Rings Auto thanks, I will check , actually I m having starting issue, no engine code , spark plugs gets wet instantly. While cranking oil pressure light also starts blinking. I removed sump to check oil pick up tube, which is fine, now will change oil level sensor & oil pressure sensor too. I was told that car goes in fail safe mode if oil pressure is low, and Computer doesn’t let car start. I will check timing after changing sensors. How to find TDC? Can I do it by putting long screw driver in cylinder 1 and turn crank clock wise to find top high position of screw driver? Or should use compression gauge to find TDC?
Thanks for your reply.
Use the screwdriver down cylinder 1.
Do a compression test also though if your spark plugs are wet with fuel. This can be either an ignition problem or compression. Check to see if you have spark.
Four Rings Auto thanks. I Did compression test after drying cylinders out, it goes over 200 psi in each cylinder. I also did fuel, sparks, etc, all fine. Cylinder gets flooded heavily upon cranking. I can see fuel on top of cylinder after removing plugs.
Which one is cylinder 1? Is it nearest to crankshaft pulley/timing chain side or the one near to battery/ gearbox? There is another video of a German guy who changed chain on this particular model (1.4 tsi 170 bhp golf mk5), but he used cylinder nearest to timing chain to find TDC rather than far right cylinder? Appreciate you time & help. Regards
Do you ever need to change the cam variator on these?
Awesome video :)
I have TSI Golf plus Engine light on Camrfaft or Camshaft Sensor message popping any Ideas? Changing the sensor itselfCamshaft or Camshaft)
or maybe chain skipped one tooth? Help guys
Great job, man ! You make it look like it´s easy, but surely it´s not. How much would such a work in your workshop with the parts would cost?
Honestly it depends where you are. I watched this video to see how difficult it is and if you can find your self a good deal I'd take it to a professional. Prices can range from £400 to £1000 in the UK. £400 being from a friend mechanic which I'm planning to take to. Me and my pal had the idea of doing it ourselves however to save us from the stress and hassle of buying the kit and equipment which would cost £200, might as well double that and have it done properly.
How did you seal the base of the timing chain cover where it meets the sump? I took the sump off to do mine as the cover will squeeze the sealant out at the bottom. Great video, thanks!
I think i mention in the video (but maybe not) that you are supposed to remove the sump for this reason. But you can get away with it installed if you are careful and have done this before. Applying a thin smear of the silicone sealant used for the corners of the timing cover was used on the top of the sump gasket. If there was a broken guide found upon removal of the timing cover, the sump would have to be removed to remove the pieces. I have done it this way on multiple 1.4tsi engines and other makes and models. It takes care and patience, you can't just slap it together. But I'd advise a first timer to remove the sump.
@@FourRingsAuto Awesome, thanks. Despite all this work, mine still chatters for the first 3-5 seconds on cold start up. Do you think it needs doing again?
Hi guys, great work and thanks for the video
The chain on my 2011 1.4 tsi Golf 6 (130.000km) is starting to get noisy on cold start and it's getting worse day by day.
Changing the chain might not be a problem for me, but timing the engine seems complicated and I didn't understand all the steps (english isn't my native language)
Is it really necessary to change all the gears even if they don't seem damaged ?
Thank you for your help
Greetings from France
I have bought my golf VI 1.4 TSI 90kw with 97 000 km and it was already making sounds when starting. They came winter and it was not that significant and now in spring it make sound not only after start but approximately one minute of driving. When I open windows I can hear it even when engine is warmed up. I will be replacing it soon.
after replacing the chain i have cam position sensor out of range fault code 3008 is that something youve come accross with these engines? seems to be running ok, but vcds shows 3008
Good job 👍
Is there a specific way to air lock the water system when you put the water and anti freeze in.
Is a bit confusing with out any information with that cam setting tool.
Thanks for explaining which way is up thanks.
Just about finishing rebuilding a 1.4 tsi cave code. pistons like you had.
And fitting revised injectors.
Glad I could help mate! The best way to fill them is with a tool that can pull a vacuum on the system, which pulls all the radiator hoses flat. The vacuum in the system then pulls the water and coolant in with no air locks.
But to be honest, these engines are pretty good at bleeding themselves. Just pour your mix into the coolant resevoir, and start the engine with the cap off the resevoir. Run the engine until up to operating temperature with the heater switched on to High (maximum heat). Keep topping the level up whilst the engine warms up, keeping the bottle full. Once the radiator has cycled on and off, take it for a drive. Let the engine cool and recheck the level. Top up where necessary.
Ok that’s the way I normally do it.
I just seen that you need a special way for it.
The block and head run at different temperature so just checking 😉 first
Have you done Basic settings
On the dsg 7dq200 gearbox yet?.
I need to do that when it back up running put a new clutch and oil in it.
Keep up the great work thanks
I have done the basic settings on the dq200 many times. Are you using VCDS?
I need to get one in.
It’s good to know that you have when I get to it I will ask you for the number sequence to go into
Thanks
hello, my blg engine appears p3008 code after chain replacement. I have changed the cam sensor as well as the VVT sprocket. I have check all the wiring everything in limits. What do i have to do?
Hello I see that you know how to do it well, if you can help me I would be very happy, I have a problem with my golf 6 1.4 TSI. my mechanic changed my distribution chain and since then there has been a click at acceleration that it was not there before. he says that he has stalled the engine as it should be for 1 month that he is looking for a breakdown. I would like to recover my car as soon as possible. do you have any idea thank you
Does the vvt pulley need some timing tool
Hello! Can you kindly tell me what size that bolt is to lock the engine hanger?
WOW - never realised you were in Perth. I live in Wanneroo!! Enjoyed the vids on the 1.4 TSi. Used them as a guide to fix the wife's 1.4 TSi - we'd also lost most of the guide on the exhaust side too. But the chain had sopped already and bent all the inlet valves by about 20 degrees. Anyway - my question - do you have any vides on changing out the head on the 1.4 TSi?
No sorry, I haven't had a chance to film one yet. Relatively simple though once you are stripped down to the chain.
Bugger. I should have videod the one I’m doing. I’ll keep watching the channel for more great vids.
Great video, done this on mine however got a misfire on cylinder 2 p0302 fault code and a rough idle when cold which settles down when the engine warms up. Do you think I could be a tooth out on timing?
These engines crack pistons. Either do a compression test, or disconnect the coil packs and crank the engine and listen to how it cranks. Low compression on 1 cylinder will make the engine cranking sound uneven as it'll speed up on the cylinder with low compression due to less resistance on the starter.
How often is this chain replacement needed?
Bout to do my 1.6 fsi would timing it be similar to this? is a tdc dial essential online says it is… Or can I lock cams and crank the way you have and carry on? Thank in advance ! 1.6 fsi 2004 engine code BAG
Hi, found this video great. Is there a torque spec for the crankshaft pulley. Thanks
150nm + 180°
how can i tighten the inlet camshaft sprocket without forcing the variable mechanism?
Did anyone ever take note of the crank sprocket size compared to the original when replacing? New ones are smaller (however fits) but initially I was a little concerned. Did VW redesign them?
Hi i have a question. Would you have a seat leon mk2 1.4 tsi or a fiat bravo 1.4 tjet sport with the infamous m32 gearbox ? Thanks
No sorry
@Four Rings Auto I have a Golf GT 1.4 tsi with the BLG engine, and the P3008 code poped up.
The car is at 200K km right now, and the timing chain was replaced at a VW dealer along with a engine rebuild at 130K km.
The oil is change every 15k/10K km intervals.
I can hear the chain rattle, so my question is how long should a chain last? And is there some regular maintenance that i should have done so that the chain last more than 70K km, like change chain guides and tensioner.
Also since the sprockets were changed fairly recently is it ok the change just the chain, tensioner and chain guides.
Many thanks in advance, I could find much helpful information on these engines and your videos really help.
Hi Martim. Do you still have the car? Tuga?
Hi! Great videos! thank you! Can you please help me diagnosting a similar engine? I have a 1.4 tsi with 180 hp and a DSG gearbox. This engine makes 13 mpg!! I have used everything, but the VCDS dont show any codes, and everything appears perfect. New spark plugs, no change. Only the knock sensor have 29V @5500 rpm, but vcds doesnt show a error or a timing pull. Car runs strong, apparently doesnt have any problem other than poor mileage. Thank you!
Check measured values 32 and 33 for fuel trims. 32 is the adaptation long term fuel trims. Negative means rich condition, positive = lean. Let me know what you find.
Great video and very helpful but did you not change the crank sprocket and will this not cause premature chain wear?
It was inspected and no damage found on the sprocket. I have inspected many chain drives over the years and you can visually see the wear in most cases. It is a good point that you mention though, and if there had been signs if wear it most definitely would have been replaced.
Hi is the chain the same set up as the audi a3 1.4 tfsi 2010
hi! Any ideea where the crankshaft sensor is ?
What nm do u torque on the crankshaft?
Great video mate, where did you get that timing cam lock tool
Mine is a HCB tools branded one. Made in china or taiwan but they specialise in copying special tools. The ones on ebay are hit and miss. JTC is another good brand reasonably prices.
I have tiguan 1.4 tsi engine 77k on it. Regular oil change on time. I had a pending code p0016 should I wait or change the chain? No power loss or starting trouble till now.
Better safe than sorry. You can tell if it's stretched by pulling the sump off and looking at how far out the tensioner is sticking out at TDC.
Hi, nice video, you made it look very simple!
I'm motivated to do this on mine, it rattles on cold starts like an assault riffle but wasn't sure if it was the variator or the timing chain, want to ask a couple of questions.
Is it necessary to change the variator, or is it something that will suppousedly last as much as the car?
And for the gasket, what do you do for the bottom part? (The one that matches the oil pan) do you use gasket silicone? (or whatever is it called)
Check that the variator is locked and has no play. The sump is sealant.
@@FourRingsAuto what does it mean that the sump is sealant?
The sump (or oil pan for Americans) doesn't have a gasket. It has silicone sealant.
@@FourRingsAuto ah, ok, that's what I thought, it's just that I want to have everything beforehand and not make any trip to the parts store / dealership
@@FourRingsAuto Another question, I can see a kit from INA (Schaeffler) -559 0154 30- with EVERYTHING needed, however, as in this video, the tensioner has the same reference as the one that came from the factory with the car, and in this video I can see that it retracts back, Isn't it supposed to stay out to compensate the chain's stretch?
Also, was the problem of the camshafts out of time because of tensioner or the chain?
Sorry to bother you, but it looks to me that it will only keep the car running fine for a while until the tensioner/chain fails again soon
Hi there
Is there a way to pm you?. Need to ask about the dsg box.
And not mess up your post.
Thanks
How much did you spend for the new kit?
Hi , would you recommend replacing the oil pump pickup pipe and also replacing the turbo oil feed line while doing this or should I be ok just doing the chain kit?
Only if the oil pickup is full of material, but you've then get to ask where it's come from.
When you fit a new tensioner do you pre fill it with oil or just bolt it to the block and let if fill with oil when the engine starts?
eoin730 ideally add oil to help to seal the piston against cylinder otherwise it runs dry at first start,
Where can we get the timing tool from ?
Seem to be having fuel pressure issue with the 1.4 tsi twincharged, the tank fuel pump seems noisy and there's noise coming from the fuel filter area, the codes I got were
Fuel pressure sensor p0190 intermittent
Fuel rail/ system pressure low p0087
Fuel pressure regulator valve mechanical malfunction intermittent
As you left the sump on did you not bother with the lower oil pump drive chain? Also.... pricing up the various bits ...how often are the cam variatiors problematic ? Im planning to do the lot but the variator is a couple of hundred pounds plus vat!
Cheers
Peter
I left the sump on but it is best to take it off really. Makes reassembling easier, you can clean the old oil out of the sump, and yes it means you can replace the oil pump chain if it is worn too. Sometimes they are ok, and sometimes the customer doesn't want to spend any more money. The cam variator is easily tested. If you buy a febi chain kit it tells you all the info you need to know.
Hi Four Rings Auto, I have got a mk5 golf GT 170hp and was wondering at what mileage should I replace the timing chain. Also experiencing a little rattle sometimes on cold startup for a couple of second but I think that is due to pressure not being built up? Could you explain? Thanks!
The early 1.4tsi in the mk5 gt were known to stretch chains, which can cause a rattle on cold start. Also, the inlet camshaft variator pulley for the vvt can rattle before oil pressure builds up if it isn't locking correctly like it should. Either way, a rattle on cold start is gonna mean removal of the timing cover and inspection of all components. You can remove just the sump to inspect the tensioner, how far it is out will give an idea of chain stretch. Also, there is a technical bulletin for the tensioners sticking in a de-tensioned position, which with a stretched chain can result in the timing jumping. Better to get it sorted now before it becomes expensive.
P2004 WV Touran TSI 1.4
Just seems like one of those engines thats fun when it's working but an annoyance when something is wrong. Believe mine needs the timing chain replaced which I'm getting done under warranty.
Great video. Thanks for this. Im doing mine at the moment which I got quite early - no noise or lack of performance, just a P0016 fault. The kit I got came with the oil pump chain, new crank sprocket as well. Can I change these without removing the sump?
The sump will need removing to do these. It is the better way to do it as then you know the sump is sealed well with the timing cover too.
@@FourRingsAuto Thanks for the help. Best video on this procedure out there.
@@FourRingsAuto Another questions for you. Hoping you can help me out. After 3 days with no problems after the timing chain swap, the P0016 code popped up again. I checked the timing again and it is spot on. Put it back together and let it run through a warm up without going over 2000 rpm as I was thinking it could be VVT related. No pending fault, which makes me think it is a VVT issue. Is this a valid way to check this (Im assuming VVT doesnt kick in till higher RPM). Perhaps its a cam pos sensor issue. The only other possible problem I could see was the positioning of the cams in their journals as they did slide when I was installing the cam gears- should the ends be flush with the end caps (where you slot in the timing lock). The reluctor ring(?) is not centred when I look down the Cam pos sensor hole. Thanks in advance for your help. Cheers
@@andrewc9435 did you manage to get rid of code. I got now same issue
Why didn't you just turn the engine till the cams lined up with the tool and lock it in then remove the chain and use the locking bolt along with your dial gauge to find tdc then install the new chain and tensioner?
Currently rebuilding 1.4 tsi supercharged, nearly done with it fitted the timing chain kit, turned engine over by hand, I heard a click noise which scared me, the engine turns over nicely by hand, I put the engine on TDC and fitted the timing tools, the camshaft tool needed a little tap to get it, does it go in easily or does it need a bit of a push to fit it
Needs to go in easily. In my video showing the 1.4tsi timing chain replacement, I explained that you should torque the cam bolts but not do the degree turn. Then rotate the engine twice and reinstall the timing tools. If the tools are hard to get in, loosen the cam pulleys again and repeat the process. Once the timing tools fit easily, then do the degrees on the cam pulley bolts.
Sometimes the cheap eBay tools are difficult to fit because of poor tolerances too though.
I have a 2008 gt TSI not starting sounds like it wants to put just won't fire. My error code is PO243 wastegate boost solenoid I replaced it but still no start . What is the error code for timing chain failure?
Hi, how far can the timing chain stretch before valves hit the pistons? and is there a known Fault on the mechanical fuel pump Failing and then flush fuel into the oil?
It will jump and hit valves with a stretched chain rather than the chain be stretched enough alone for the timing to go that far out. This one had jumped on the crank it seems, as both cams were in time with one another still.
You are correct with hpfp failure lime that, more seen on the fsi v8 and v10. Fuel injector leakage will also result in fuel in the oil. Any form of rich condition repair should have the oil changed afterwards.
How did you adjust cam shafts to get locking tool in when it was out of time? I had head off and therefore cam cover out with cams. Before reinstalling cam cover put engine to TDC on 1, crank pin in and lock tool in cams. I want to adjust cams position as tool bit hard to get in and out but don’t want to undo sprocket bolts.
I fit the tool before refitting the cam box.
If the tool is hard to get in, you have to undo the cam sprocket bolts. That's why in the instructions and in the video, it says to only torque the bolts to the nm amount, rotated the engine and recheck if the tool fits easily. Then carry out the stretching of the bolts. It is ok to loosen the bolts if the stretch procedure hasn't been carried out yet.
@@FourRingsAuto ok thanks. Yeh I put lock tool into cam box prior to fitting but since removing tool, cam alignment is off ever so slightly. Is it possible to remove chain and turn cam shafts independently? (With engine crank pin in for tdc no1)
Were did you buy the o-rings for the timing case cover?
I buy them from VW, or you may be able to find elring ones. They are cheap from vw dealership, and taking that cover off again would be a massive pain as the o-rings are for sealing the oil pressure passages to and from the oil filter housing.
@@FourRingsAuto Thank you!
Hello, I am considering buying a golf wagon with the 1.4 twincharger engine, I wonder if the CTHD engine built in late 2012 have same issues? Or just CAVD engine?
CTHD is greatly inproved. Revised pistons being the biggest difference.
Great job. I have the mk6 1.4 tsi 2009 manual. Only 34k on clock. Not been serviced for 3 years as I do very few miles 3k p.a. Want to service the car now. Do I need the timing chain replaced as well and how much does it cost?
Even if you're rarely driving it the engine oil (and filter) should be replaced every year at an absolute minimum. I wouldn't bother changing the chain/tensioner if it's not rattling or making unusual noises but like I said, service the car regularly as the tensioner relies on oil pressure and old/poor quality oil is a common cause of chain failure.
PS Go for a decent drive and give the car a good rev every so often once its up to temp, short distance driving is terrible for these d.i. cars
Is the vw engine set up if the chain has jumped the teeth the valves won't collide with the pistons, mines lost compression on all cylinders so I assume the chain has jumped just hope there's no damage to valves
They generally jump on the inlet cam and bend the valves. A cylinder leak down test will confirm if the valves are sealing or not.
Have same error code on mine, (bmy engine code)
- i have replaced water pump on it before, but my question is : time wise how long does this job take?
Did the water pump in a 2 hours ish
6 roughly.
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