Why Michael Penix Jr.? How the 2024 NFL Draft class fits Atlanta Falcons | Falcons Audible Podcast
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- čas přidán 4. 06. 2024
- Join Derek Rackley, Dave Archer, & D.J. Shockley as they react and share their thoughts on the Atlanta Falcons 2024 draft class.
00:00 - Intro
01:00 - Initial thoughts on drafting Michael Penix Jr. at no. 8
12:41 - What Shock saw in Penix Jr.
16:55 - Arch’s Thoughts on the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round picks
21:15 - Thoughts on Bralen Trice
23:37 - Breaking down the 5th & 6th Round Picks
31:24 - Wrap up/ Potential Nicknames
Michael Penix Jr., QB, No. 8 (first round)
Ruke Orhorhoro, DT, No. 35 (second round)
Bralen Trice, OLB, No. 74 (third round)
Brandon Dorlus, DT, No. 109 (fourth round)
JD Bertrand, ILB, No. 143 (fifth round)
Jase McClellan, RB, No. 186 (sixth round)
Casey Washington, WR, No. 187 (sixth round)
Zion Logue, DT, No. 197 (sixth round)
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As long as we make playoffs this year and beat the Saints twice I’m a happy fan. Kirk is here to get us to the playoffs and Penix is here for the future for hopefully championships. I’m fine with this move. Yes, unconventional but at least they have the balls to do what they believe in. Most would follow the sheep because they are sheep.
And beat the Bucs
My initial reaction to the Pennix pick was "WTF?"
I slept on it and woke up understanding why they did it. Let's Gooooo!
..ditto!👍🏿
Love all the picks, hope it all pays off ❤️🖤❤️🖤
I’m really proud of the team’s management. They’re setting up success for a long time.
If something happens to Kirk? Obviously everyone complaining about this pick is alright with Heinicke 🙄
Penix gonna sell tons of jerseys
It’s so refreshing to watch you guys just break down our picks, and Analyze the prospects… and keeping it objective… thank you. Go Falcons. RISE UP! ✊🏿
Love this perspective, we need a succession plan. Penix is a natural passer. He gets to learn from Cousins. The next picks are not guaranteed.
The team didn’t “get caught with their pants down” at the end of the Ryan era, th he pantsed themselves by not communicating with their current starter, and they did the same exact thing Thursday night.
I like Penix as a QB prospect, and I hope he’s the face of the franchise in a few years, but don’t say you’re in “win now” mode when you’re drafting a guy in the top 10 that won’t see the field for 2-3 years.
WELCOME TO THE ATL (MP9) OUTSTANDING PICK AT # 8 IN THE NFL DRAFT. ATLANTA FALCONS ARE GOING TO WIN NOW WITH KIRK COUSINS AND WILL WIN GOING FORWARD WITH MICHAEL PENIX JR. ..CHESS NOT CHECKERS 🏆
In college they already named him MPJ
The pick surprised me but when I thought about the 2015 draft when we got the first round pick that fans wanted in Vic Beasley and then they got Grady Jarrett who was unheard of I looked at not getting Dallas Turner and drafting Rooke a lot differently
I hope Kirk Cousins plays well 3yrs. meanwhile, MP Jr. will be 27 or 28 years old. and you will have him as a starter for at least 7 or 8yrs. depending on health. Now, if this is the case, Arthur Blank gets back $45 million of his money back. The only bad thing is that we can't capitalize on MP Jr. rookie contract like Seattle did with Russell Wilson.
Nice breakdown
WIN NOW AND IN THE FUTURE
Nice to listen to a calm, reasoned and upbeat discussion on Michael Penix Jr. being drafted by the Falcons. I liked the pick when they made it, I like it now and I'm tired of all the wailing and moaning that we didn't take an edge player at #8. Nobody picked a defensive player after us until middle of the 1st, so the leading edge players were hardly elite anyway.
DJ looking more like a linebacker these days 💪🏽
😂
The Falcons have been talked about more in the last week than from 2017-2023 combined. 1 week > 300 weeks
I peeped that too....really, the entire off-season....from firing the coach, to possibly getting Bellichek, to hiring Raheem, to signing Kirk, to now drafting Penix.....NEVER heard the national media talk so much about the falcons these past 5 months
Not all that familiar with the pedigree of the Offensive Coordinator. Does he have a history with Kirk. A ton of things will ride on that as oppose to just the Head Coach. A healthy Kirk should be good for 10 wins and the playoffs. Slow and steady usually wins the RACE as oppose to those crying, we are in the Win Now Mode. Win what exactly. No matter who they drafted this year, that wasn't going to be wining the Superbowl.
The OC came from the McVeigh coaching tree. He'll be running a West coast offense like the Rams/49ers/Vikings do. So Kirk is well suited to this offense. Penix hasn't run this type of offense in college. He was a running QB at Indiana and they ran a spread run & shoot offense at Washington. So sitting behind Kirk for seasons sounds about right. If you want to see what this could look like, just watch the 4 games Josh Dobbs played for the Vikings last season when Kirk went down. That's why he needs to sit for a couple seasons.
The problem was not what they did, but how they did it. First I’m okay with the other draft picks. I think JD (Kamikaze) will be a steal. The others good role players, with seemingly high motors, when if coach well will be great contributors. But with Penix (who I’m not a big fan of) on their radar, why give Cousins guaranteed 100 mill? Or, give the 100 mill and say we want you here as the bridge for our next qb. And since Penix was projected late 1st, early 2nd they could have come up with a better package to drop down, and still gotten him later. But the biggest takeaway is they think Penix is the future, but look at how many 1st round qb’s are out of the league or are backups now. We had one recently in Mariota. If the defense is good we could just go out and pay a free agent then like Tampa did with Brady and LA did with Stafford. The last two winning qb’s outside of Mahomes. So they’re thinking he’ll be Mahomes and not 90% of the other qb draft picks.
Why is everyone so dumb? I'm not an NFL expert but I was saying, hey if there's a QB they like fans need to be ready for them to make that pick. I didn't know which QB they liked or if any of them beyond the top 2-3 guys would entice them if they fell. I was actually thinking JJ McCarthy might be a guy they could pick and sit. I wasn't expecting Penix, not because of his talent, but because I thought his medicals might be why he wasn't high on most of the draftniks' big boards.
I felt the time a young QB could sit and learn from Cousins was the true value. Basically you can extend the lifespan of Cousins' knowledge beyond his ability to play on the field.
My issue is, why couldn’t they plan ahead and got both the future QB and the pass rusher they direly needed? The Vikings were able to do that. The Jets were open to do business! In my mind, there is a level of strategic or tactical flaw in the decision-making process. Quality is always better than quantity. Raheem better deliver those wins he is promising because if they end up picking top 10 next season, he will need to move on
They tried to trade back into the first round from picks 9-32 but no one really wanted to move out and down to 44
Maybe you missed the rest of the draft but they absolutely addressed the pass rush 3 times. Just because they didn't get a 1st round pass rusher doesn't mean they just stopped trying.
@@myspiritanimalisacostanza remember Arnold Ebiketie? Falcons 38 overall pick..so called doctor pass rush!
No matter what a pass rusher looked like in college, it can take 2-3 years to become dominant in the NFL. Dont write him off yet.
Your telling me people who are employed by the falcons don’t have anything negative to say? 😂
I Love our draft class but I'm perplexed concerning our brass.And some of their decisions 🤔
I wanted the falcons to draft turner
And trade back in to draft penix
NOT UP TO THE FANS
Maybe they saw other teans eyeing penix
SO THEY DRAFTED HIM AT 8
Yes strange how the media was all a bunch of group think and totally missed it... I had almost given up on the falcons but now that they've got a quarterback position covered... They can still make the playoffs even if they're old injured quarterback gets hurt again... And when Kirk cousin's production starts falling off we now know what the future is... I will tell you this none of the people in the media cared at all when Atlanta sucked it's amazing how passionate they were about there Steaning 🔥Takes considering none of them are Atlanta fans...
It really only makes sense if Cousins gets hurt within the next two years or they trade one of the quarterbacks in the next two years. I don't see that happening. Kirk has put up Hall of Fame numbers his entire career and is showing no signs of slowing down. He was hoping to retire 4-6 years down the road as a Falcon and that would be a best case scenario for the Falcons. Now that cannot happen. The GM basically said lets not do all we can do win right now. That was a terrible decision. In the Falcons best case scenario Penix's career is mostly wasted. He is the one who should be the most upset. Right now he is being told that he will start in 2-3 years but it is unlikely that you will replace a Hall of Fame quarterback still playing some of his best football. It was a terrible move because it very possibly cost them a win or two this season and it is very possible that game will be in the playoffs. Just plain stupid.
Hall of Fame???.....slow down homeboi....dude has 1 playoff win and you think he's hall of fame?....stop it
@@edawg9962 When you take all the quarterbacks since 1947 and compare them to the average quarterback of their era Cousins is the 17th best. That is clearly Hall of Fame. Teams win games and championships, not quarterbacks or any other position. Cousins average playoff game is better than Tom Brady's average playoff game even though he has been sacked 3 times as often in those games.
@@bryanjones4444 so you're saying Cousins is better than Tom Brady???...playoff and championship wins don't matter?...dude, stay off the drugs....you sound crazy af
@@edawg9962 No thats not what I said. I said that Kirk's average playoff game has been better than Tom's which is true. Feel free to look it up. What I am pointing out is that wins are a team accomplishment. Even though Cousins has played better in the playoffs his teams are 1-3 and Tom's teams have won 7 championships. It's a team game.
Being left handed, get Pennix a good Right OT
Hey There Kirk = Mr Money Be HAPPY If you are Great or you are Not.....Oh Yeah Another Contact..... Write a Book of how to make Money in the NFL You're the KING !!
Derek R. Is a great announcer. And no I'm not 1 of his relatives. 😅
These guys are local broadcasters. They're on the payroll. Leave it to the Falcons to screw up a #8 pick. The fact that they have to explain this pick over and over in the media should be all we need to know. We should be excited, we're not!
It’s because people keep talking about it and asking questions about it..the pick isn’t going to change and it was a damn good pick
The only reason they have to keep explaining the pick is because 75% of the NFL is breathing through their mouth and still scratching their heads trying to play catch up. You being one of them.
Speak for yourself! I'm excited for next season!
Speak for yourself buddy 😂😂
Who's 'we'?! Certainly not the majority of Falcons fans who aren't eternal pessimists mad every draft
His 40 was actually 4.46
I may be alone on this but Penix reminds me a little tiny bit of Stanfford. Nowhere near as good but in flashes
Thats why they liked Penix so much....Raheem and OC are straight from the Rams, watching Stafford in person
Penix agreed to work out BECAUSE HE WAS SLOTTED TO GO END OF ROUND 1
Bralen was THE ONLY GOOD PICK THEY MADE out of the 1st 4 draft picks
I really don't understand. We all know the Falcons flew out to Seattle just a few days before the draft and were excited. All the local sports guys were talking about it. We probably thought it was going to be a trade-down but the national press made such a big deal we all jumped on that Nat sports jock band wagon. My brother lives in Seattle and my nephew is graduating this year from Washington. They love him and is jealous. Everyon there was hoping Seahawks would get get but were pretty sure the Raiders or Denver would get him.
WHY THE FKC DID THEY WASTE A PICK ON A RB SERIOUSLY WHY IN THE HOLY FCK would they do that????
Special teams. That is what late round picks do.
YOU DO NOT ADDRESS IT BY USING #8 PICK ON A QB you really think Penix is going to wait 4 5 years
FIRE Terry I DON'T HAVE A CLUE Fontenot
COUSINS/PENIX>MARIOTA/RIDDER
COUSINS HAS HIS successor
RYAN DIDNT
If PENIX won the national championship
Would of changed ur mind about him
The rationale MAKES no sense teams don't have to draft where they are SLOTTED then move up for QBs every draft 49ers Bears Chiefs etc etc etc Their Rationale Makes NO SENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Chiefs DID move up to draft Patrick though, and didn't have to but I'm sure they're glad they did
This is what trauma will do to you. Last year the Falcons gave away the division at the QB position. They may get beat the next year or two but it won’t be because of QB. 7:58
Day 27 of asking the Atlanta Falcons to change their uniforms in 2025.
I don't care how they try to explain it, it sucks. If you're a believer in Penix, I'm not in that camp, I get their reasoning. The way I see it they sacrificed the next few seasons for 5 years down the road and even then rhere are no guarantees they'll be successful.
Dallas turner or any DE in the first was not going to make the falcons defense lights out all of a sudden....not even Will Anderson or Travon Walker did that for their teams
Bralen is a DE his playing weight is 275 - they pandered with the ND LB and GA NT pure pandering picks ... to try to cover for their failures!!!!
It’s shows Blank is r cheap and does care about the future of this team , that’s what fans been crying about for a long time. If they play 4-3 they got two starters on the dline in Truce and Dorlus. They got Oneymatta and Grady next ups and got a Qb for future and backup.Jd Butran will also start and might lead in tackles within 2 years. And the Wr might also start at Wr
HE IS NOT A SCRAMBLER he has no feel for it... WINS and LOSSES are not A QB STAT
YOU DON'T USE #8 PICK ON A BACK UP QB and pay him 23 MIllion. If you're worried about Kirk's health DO NOT SIGN HIM!!!!!!!!
HOW CAN YOU GET RID OF KIRK IN 2 YEARS or 3 YEARS if he is playing like a TOP 10 QB HOW DO YOU GET RID OF HIM you really think Penix will wait 3 4 5 years
Depends what you consider good is....if falcons just make the playoffs and lose in first round, thats not good enough
HE IS NOT A SCRAMBLER AT ALL HE HAS NO FEEL FOR SCRAMBLING ridiculous take just cause he has straightline speed doesn't mean he's a mobile QB he's a pure POCKET PASSER
THEY DID NOT HAVE SUCCESS Newton HAD SUCCESS Not Ruke that is nonsense!!
HE HAD 1 GOOD GAME @ WR IN HIS CAREER WHEN THERE WERE WRs with great production WRs in round 1 2 3 4 they passed ON ALL OF THEM for a ST WR idiots!
Of course they have nothing critical or negative to say. Sure Penix is a great talent, might be one of the greatest. But it’s bad pick.. 8th overall pick is going to sit for at least 2-3 years unless Kirk gets hurt. Get out of here. Decisions like this is why this is always a loser franchise. We can never make the right decision to make this team great. So hard to be a fan
they drafted 3 3-4 DEs to a team loaded with 3-4 DEs idiotic!
Who should they have drafted instead?.....the trenches is where you need the most depth
@@edawg9962 I would have drafted ANYBODY else ... let's start with don't draft a QB in round 1 that gives you WR1/DE1/DT1/CB1 right off the bat ... then round 2 you can take whatever you passed on in round 1 you had DT Newton who is better than Ruke now and you also had your CB DeJean or Kool Aid and you still had high potental WRs there and even the BEST safety in Nubin you took a 3rd round player in Ruke not only for your 2nd round pick but for your 2nd round pick and 3rd round pick that is incompetence ... you also had a chance at a real NT in Sweat 3-4s have real NTs we don't have a good one the team David Gradry are not NTs this way in round 3 you can add Brice and round 4 add Dolarus for depth if you want but you could add just one of those and STILL pick up another WHATEVER POSITION IS MISSING PLAYER a CB a WR etc so let's say the draft goes like this Turner/Latu/Murphy that is 1 DL round 4 Dolarus that is 2 DL you have added you still have 3 4 5 DL on the team already
lul
AS FALCONS EMPLOYEES YOU HAVE TO SAY THIS RIGHT even though it is COMPLETE BS dumb asf MOVE you either wasted 100 million on Kirk or a rookie QB contract or day 1 starter THE PROCESS WAS FLAWED
You're wating coaching resources teaching Penix instead of preparing Kirk for the upcoming game THIS IS AGAIN A DUMMY MOVE
The first 2 picks were HORRIBLE. I actually did like the rest of our draft picks. We should've NEVER signed a big $ QB if we were drafting a QB 8th. That $100 million could've been spent on our defense.
Defense wins championships, somehow they continue to ignore this. Defense can't get off the field, Offense scores or turns over quickly and puts the defense right back out there - leading to exhaustion. 4th quarter we're gassed and cooked. Calais Campbell was our lead pass rusher at his old age! He's great no doubt but he's gone now, and we have nothing to replace him. We didn't even get the best DT available after trading up. Hopefully Ruke turns out better than we think, he's strong as hell at least.
@@user-ym9dz5uy2v I agree with everything u said. They keep saying that they're "following the Green Bay philosophy" but one of the architects of the Rodgers and Love draft picks said that what Atlanta did was in NO WAY similar to what they were doing when he worked for Green Bay. Hopefully this year Zack Harrison can become a nightmare for opposing QBs. Ebeketie too
@@paulthompkins4150 True. They showed potential and got to learn alongside Grady and Calaias. Should profit big time from being able to rest more this season. I didn't know greenbay responded though haha.
"We got the idea from Green Bay."
Green Bay: "don't insult us"
THEY DID NOT PRODUCE. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT SCHOOL YOU COME FROM THIS IS ANOTHER ALL TIME DUMMY TAKE Loads of SEC ND etc players bust while guys from tiny schools become Pro Bowlers NONSENSE take
Draft recap: Another wasted draft and another 7-10 regular season record coming up. When will this insanity with this franchise stop...
Go be a saints fan
@@derrellleggett8399he is a Saints fan.
Leave this thread. We sick of u haters. Saints fan
@@Terrytimemedia No Saints fan but you and Derrell keep on drinking that poisoned Kool-aid that you probably drank last year, and the year before, and the year before, and the year before, and the year before, etc,etc,etc...
@@randy1610 Hey I believe in my team you believe in yours. I disagree and think we are heading in the right direction, and I do still respect your opinion. Have a good season with your team. Also kool-aid is a saint, not a falcon
Raheem Morris trash moves. We're guaranteed in for hard times with a head coach that has a 33% win rate. Falcons management is a straight joke.
Please go be a Saints fan. ✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿
Fresh start clean slate for this staff. If you don't like it kick rocks. We don't need you and we don't want you. Buh bye
Bet some money against him since you sound so confident
Thank you, these fair weather fans just say anything. Dumbasses we winning over here...ATL.