How We Perceive Time? Cyclical vs Linear vs Vertical (the philosophy of time perception)
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- čas přidán 28. 12. 2021
- How do we know time? We don't see it. We don't hear it. We can't touch it. Yet we know it is there. People getting old, day turning to night and plants dying. Without change, we cannot perceive time. In this video I discuss cultural perceptions of time, cyclical time, linear time and inner time or vertical time.
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For my final video of 2021, I thought I talk about TIME itself, and how it is seen in different parts of the world. Do you care about time? Do you see it as your friend or enemy? Do you see yourself repeating things every week, month or year? Or do you see yourself just growing and changing all the time?
To learn more, watch my two videos on Proust:
10 Lessons on how to be an artist: czcams.com/video/jT9LSdpfFvg/video.html
Summary of In Search of Lost Time: czcams.com/video/47zd7JIdVcE/video.html
This is truly thought provoking video packed with incredible amount of information in so many different fields. What a creative way to end the year.
Wow, thank you!
“Time and tide wait for no man.” “Time is of the essence!” Most excellent video-comparing Eastern and Western views of Time.
Thanks so much for listening.
12:02 I support Buddha. We all suffer. A poor man’s suffering both physical and internal psychologically ends when his mind dies. Unfortunately what caused them to suffer and continues to make man of any kind to suffer does not die; diseases, loneliness racism and so on and so. One’s poverty can be temporarily be elucidated by money but the part that human is the common denominator, there is no escape from suffering. Kudos to Buddha. Well done Hippias Minor. I now can also say; you are killing it!
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I was happy navigating my world of audiobooks. Never a better time to be into literature and hear men especially in these thought provoking subjects come to life thru them placing their thoughts on paper for the lucky few to enjoy, wonder, contemplate, be challenged , agree,disagree etcetera but Hippias Minor is also becoming my blurb🤣🤣. I go to his wall to hear what he thinks on so and so author before I commit my time. Some reads are hours but captivating. I don’t know Hippias but carry on the heavy task. You know it’s much appreciated. This on here is special.
I had never heard of a language that places the future behind you and the past in front, but once you explained it, it made sense.
Great video essay, by the way
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the comment.
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Wow.. What a nice video and an eye opener about the relationship between culture, views, science, spirituality, and so on.. Much appreciate the sharing 😊🙏
In that regard i think another thing about people who believes in cyclical time is that they put more emphasis on giving - just like a farmer would keep the seeds for the next year (e.g. giving back to people around you), rather than taking everything for their own enjoyment :) e.g. what goes around comes around :)
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Thank you for your great videos of the past year. "Great Expectations" of what the next year will bring!
Thanks for the company. Yeah sure, more to come.
Thank you for providing the exact content I was looking for!
Last minute and half - I cannot agree more! I'm reading Marcel Proust this year and learning a different perception of time. Thank you for the video, it is such an excellent and informative summary and introduction.
Proust is quite an undertaking, so well done. I have summarised ISOLT here and have talked about Proust philosophy in 10 lessons, in case you like to watch here.
Thank you for your video. You're really helping me understand the concept of Cyclical Time.
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Excellent explanation. Great video. Keep it up
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Thanks for your precious time
Love it
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Brilliant video!!
I like this video a lot. Keep on going!
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Thank you, your video is profoundly thought-provoking.
Thank you!
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Glad you enjoy my content. There are ads but you're a lucky person:)
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Jesus kiddo! 80 thousand subs! You’re on a mad tear! So happy for you. Time is so important to me. The other day I took selfies for my husband and at my age it’s hard to get good ones. That whole ordeal took twenty minutes, felt like 5. I won’t be a slave to my phone.😩
My world conquering has began :) 100k by Christmas. lol
I am not into selfies. I would rather ask someone else. even I manage to conquer the world, the phone has me conquered.
@@Fiction_Beast Congratulations!! To be honest my selfie days are long gone but when you’re married you know the old adage. Happy husband, happy life.😀. Keep conquering the world. So proud of you
I thought it was the other way around. Happy wife :)
Thanks for the extraordinary video!
Thank you!
Love this video. Great for my research that I'm doing for an art project... on time. The hardest thing about time for me as an artist is how to express it, because it is so personal. I would like the work to be universal... but it's an impossibility... time is so subjective, we do not/cannot exist outside of it. How to visualise something from inside it? Hopefully, in time, I'll find a way.
Great analysis Fiction Beast. Bowie states the future belongs to those who can see it coming. Time is the one thing money can’t buy and there is never enough of IMHO Great work and thank you for you hard work, great succinct, constructive and concise overview. I am currently getting a bit of a grip on Heidegger and I am finding his views insightful facticity and transcendence, I also enjoyed Nietzsche use and abuse of history. Thank you once again; great work.
Really appreciate it mate!
Truly Outstanding. As someone with a website dealing with Cyclical time at a semi academic and journalistic level and a just started CZcams channel with (wait for it) only 20 subscribers I am hugely impressed. I have viewed many websites dealing with time and have yet to see a more concise and incisive coverage of all facets of the issue - it is underlining for me that a CZcams channel dealing with philosophic or intellectual issues can have an intellectual impact that you just don't see in academia let alone the scientific world. I would like to make contact and if you reply will send you my website details and perhaps add to this reply - but only if you wish. I have of course subscribed.
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The more time passes, the more I binge on this channel. In order for me to stop binging you shop stop time.
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Awesome. thanks for listening.
Valuable commentary
I like this timely review.....
It's that time of the year! Thanks for the comment.
unbelievable video, by far one of the best I've ever seen, keep up with the good work. Greetings from Brazil!
Wow, thanks!
The best modern analysis of time by far times infinite.
I was awe struck once, and pursued to believe in cyclical time when I came across Dostoevsky's notion of cyclical existence in The Brothers Karamazov on the chapter of " The Devil. Ivan's nightmare" When he says;
"Why, you keep thinking of our present earth! But our present earth may have been repeated a billion times. Why, it's become extinct, been frozen ; cracked, broken to bits, disintegrated into its elements, again 'the water above the firmament,' then again a comet, again a sun, again from the sun it becomes earth-and the same sequence may have been repeated endlessly and exactly the same to every detail. " - Project Gutenberg ed. 1 translated version of The Brothers Karamazov by F. Dostoevsky
Bone chilling chapter with giant philosophical overlaps like the perception of time and my best read for this year thus far thanks to one of your presentations, keep up the good work.🙏🙏🙏
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Times drags on so it could have been a thousand years. A part of me will.always be here.
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Wow, thank you!
The problem with the cyclical model, is that is a system based on the idea of processes, rather than the concept of time on a cosmic/universal level.
What if time is neither linear, nor cyclical. What if, it is spherical?
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Can anyone explain me the cyclical time in fewer words? I have watched the video 2 times in a row but couldn’t understand fully. Thanks in advance. 😊
I believe time is always measured in terms of change, so our use of using units to measure time is just a convenience factor.
I think time is neither linear nor cyclical but more like a spiral.
The egg becomes a adult chicken which lays an egg which becomes a chicken which again lays an egg like in cyclical time but on a large scale, the chicken population evolves new traits like in linear time. So every cycle is not like the other like in a spiral time.
But I would put more emphasis towards progression as a mere accumulation of change instead of progress as a movement towards a goal. Humans and other animals are maybe goal oriented but the universe, evolution or even history are just accumulations without an end goal.
Even when the universe dies the heat death, statistical fluctuations can still revers entropy if given enough time. The second law just describes the average behavior of macroscopic systems. And evolution does not go towards some kind of global optimum, a species which is superior towards all other species in every situation. Instead there are just shifting local niche dependent optimum which change with the environment. And history maybe has technological advancement but even this is not guaranteed to continue and could crash down any time. There is no reason to think that humanity will live longer then all the species that came before it. History is also not just the history of technology so to talk about progress in history as a whole is somewhat dubious.
Consciousness was much much much...
earlier aware of space than of time,
so space was before time.
Just as time does not matter in holistic processes,
space nevertheless exists,
because the processes are happening in space.
please read eliade and cioran
U seem like a saint to me...
Time is an illusion among many other illusions comprising life.
Hunger, pain, poverty, lack, boredom, despair, freedomlessness, fear, ill-health, uncertainty, losses, loneliness, incpacitated physical-mental state
are persistent harsh realities .
The question is time is not energy at all not physics chemistry and even mathematics very very meaningful yet detached from vectors unless applied as vector calculus to spaces. So slatute ( respect ) to time is here as " kalaye tasmai namah " is a prayer mantra status is there. We respect time more than anything else.
Very impressive! I also see Time as a God, sometimes cruel, but always almighty. Although I was born in Europe the Western way of perceiving Time does not represent me. For me, living the present moment, being there mentally, focused on what you are doing then and there - for example talking to someone - without rush or interference, it's very important.
To take your time is a habit that we can learn from Proust - even if that means that you are not "efficient" (according to corporate assessment).
Thank you for all of your time invested in this video!
You’re very welcome. I agree life is meant to be lived In the present.
Hey FB! You misunderstand the difference. Cyclical and linear time are the same. Cyclical is the abstract and linearity is the minutiae. Either way that you look at it, you will find the other. This isnt opposed to science. The logical conclusion to the big bang is that everything will eventually cool and contract. This is the key to understanding life as it works with the same energy everywhere. As the law goes.. as above, so below.
Next, the concept of reincarnation is misunderstood by many. It refers to the human spirit, itself. Not any individual. Its very straight forward. Or rather the universal spirit inhabiting a human body, because we are highly influenced by our brain's evolution, it stands to reason that all animals share the same spirit.
There is a forth idea about time: time does not exist. Just as you said, all we sense is change. Even the clock is changing which we interpret as it measuring the time. These is no evidence altogether that such thing as time really exists. I can't imagine how our ancestors invented this word.
Yes, I hade the same Idea. As I was younger I thought that only change is what really exists. Time is then just a convention to compare quantities of change. The future and the past do not exist therefore there is only a eternal and ever changing present. Our concept of space and time are just the product of the interaction and internal processes of objects.
But then we have time dilation and the relativity of simultaneity , which implies that the past and future exists in the same way as the present. So maybe time ist a geometric net of connections between systems. And if the connection is strong then they can more strongly influence each other which creates the perception of distance in spacetime.
John Woo, Christopher Nolan:
-time goes brrrrrrrrrrr
Great video ma dude! Very interesting and thought provoking. I both love and hate to think about time, it's such a mind fuck. I can only really appreciate time when I meditate, yet at the same.. time, my perception of time disappears. Perhaps because I don't witness change, as you said. To your comments about the process and goals, I too think that goals are great for direction and motivation but for fulfilment and enjoyment I believe the process is the way to go. Because even if you hit your goal, you'll most likely move on to the next goal, and to the next, and to the next, which is essentially a process. Anyway keep up the good work.
Btw, have you seen George Carlin's sketch on time? The way he incorporate comedy and philosophy is quite fantastic. I'll link it here czcams.com/video/zaR3sVpTB98/video.html
TIME is masterly painted with two vivid colours : cyclic and linear ......
We all do the same stuff Day After day
Today we work and sleep
The prehistoric woke up go go Hunt eat and sleep
Today the Rich find other planets because this Planet/reality isnt enough for them
I like you philosophical take.
AION (GOD) IS CYCLICAL TIME (PHANES - SERPENT)
CHRONOS (GOD) IS LINEAR TIME
(EROS - GOLDEN WINGS)
I thought the Greeks didn't know how to make domes? not that they chose to not do so..
Hinduism doesn't believe in many gods. The Bagavadgita describes it best, there is only one god Brahama (everything in existence) and the diffrent representations of god are only diffrent faces of Brahama, just as branches are diffrent parts of the same structure that is the tree.
Your assessment of western religious is incomplete and incorrect. The old testament has cyclical vision of life.
If you can't do the time,dont do the crime.
You lost me at darwin - hello its 21st century, and he has been mathematically disproven.
I hate this orientalism and "East vs West divide" narrative. Very othering.