Louie is not in Nyjah lol that not a even a close comparison Louie lol bra has zero accolades 2 good video parts cut it out 90pecent of kids don’t know who Louie is
@@savagelifeskateboarding I’m not even sure of wtf you’re trying to say here, shit gave me a headache trying to make sense of what you typed lol. Louie was literally in the SOTY running at the time but ok.
@@Antonioiam Louie’s footage was trash compared to the other soty nominees he should not have dropped that knowing what was out simple you understand that its real simple
There are so many CZcamsrs and Skaters coming out and saying that Nyjah was robbed. I’ve even seen people who don’t like him or his style and don’t prefer his skating who are admiting he should have been SOTY. Crazy.
He didn’t he just didn’t have the exposure and everybody thought his parts were enough to win it’s wasn’t it was boring and forgettable and he had no covers all year
@@firstsonofthesea7938 his parts were enough to win, it's ment to be who was the best skater of the year not who got the most coverage, and if you wanna talk about coverage his parts have way more views than tyshawns
Robbed 😂😂😂😂😂 Nyjah Fanboys are everywhere.. I don't hate the guy but he's not SOTY , not even close .. He drops a video at the end of the season & you all think he's skater of the year all of a sudden .. If you want to talk about sk8ers being robbed then lets talk about all the sk8ers who were robbed in competition going up against Nyjah with their bias judging .. Aurelien Giraud is one to name a few , it happened only a few months ago 🤷♂️
The people who think Tyshawn deserved SOTY are so silly that they will make fun of Nylah's shorts while being oblivious that Tyshawn also wears tiny athletic shorts haha
I agree. I don't think I'll be taking the award seriously at all. There are have been a few years I already thought weren't the best choices but this one was particularly bad. Often times they neglect great skaters or parts in the first half of the year.
I feel like anyone who doesn't think nyjah deserved this year soty either hasn't skated long enough to understand the difficulty of his tricks or are straight-up hating. His "need that" part is something we will appreciate years to come and will be the most memorable part of this year.
I will argue that Tfunk should’ve won. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it a hundred more times, no one skates harder, faster, or heavier then Tfunk and I personally think that’s the type of skating to win soty…. Honestly it’s pretty subjective. I hate handrails and honestly once you’ve got them locked in they’re not hard. Watching a nyjah part to me is like watching someone play THPS it’s not the same as the grittiness of Tfunk or tyshaun part. But like I said it’s subjective and that’s my opinion and how I view skating. Personally I’d rather watch a switch flip in to a huge hill bomb then one of nyjahs hundred clips doing a perfect Krook down a 16 stair.
I lost so much respect for Chima from his words on that podcast. He just throws out allegations at first then goes “oh I don’t know if it actually happened, just heard a tape is going around, never been to his house.” If you don’t know for sure that a legit abusive crime happened then don’t even mention it, especially for a guy as famous as Nyjah, allegations like that can legit ruin lives of innocent people. Thought he was one of the more respectable guys in skating but honestly Nyjah carries himself as a really mature and bright guy. Especially for having such a crazy father, being famous and wealthy so young. Doubt he even finished middle school so I’m genuinely impressed with how bright he comes across. And Chima shut your mouth if you don’t even know what you are saying happened.
I have no doubt there's a video of them running a train on a girl but I highly doubt it was rape, especially if there was a video and so many people involved As for Chima speaking about it I feel like people are just taking his words and running with them, it sounded like a normal conversation and yeah definitely shouldn't have been aired to the public like that
Nyjah's two recent parts were mind blowing. They are the type of parts that will go down in infamy. Tyshawn's parts were good, but I couldn't tell you one trick in it besides the ollie over the table. He definitely doesn't deserve to be a two time winner. This is some weird stuff.
Let's be real. Nyjah is so far beyond everyone else, that is why he gets hate. Tyshawn's last part really was something else too. Each clip felt like an ender, no dead weight. That being said Nyjah definitely had the hardest shit, on the gnarliest shit and he got robbed. Haven't seen anyone else touch half of those spots because they know it'll fuck them up. Skateboarding thrives because it's inclusive. People from all walks of life. I hate seeing "skaters" try to turn it into the opposite.
Some people just don’t don’t like that style of skateboarding, but when Nyjah skates Street he doesn’t look like someone who actually skates, he looks like he’s taking contest tricks to spots. Don’t get me wrong I think it’s dope, but I prefer Tyshawns style and the way his parts were put together more. Nyjah didnt lose because people are jealous, he lost it because a lot of people, especially people influential in the industry preferred Tyshawns skating.
@@chrisperez3614 that is subjective, objectively Nyjah is better because he is capable of far more than Tyshawn. Tyshawn can pop really high, that's his schtick. That's it.
Of course Tyshawn remembers THPS, he was in the latest version. This is probably the most disputed SOTY award I can recall and think the award is tarnished, but this ordeal will be forgotten about by March. I think Gifted Hater's vid was taken down because of the accusation with Tyshawn strong-arming Thrasher into giving him the award in exchanged for the train track bs flip. For those will never forget this SOTY run, it has left a bad look on the mag and on Tyshawn Jones [he really wants to beef with other skaters and their video parts?]
We must never forget the people that got us to the point we’re at right now and the history that was made for us all to enjoy the skateboarding we have today. Embrace the legends.
@@adamgonesage you missed the point. TJ fails to recognize the black owned companies before his, thinking his is the first. He’s also failing to recognize the legends that came before him and he’s not interested in watching the accomplishments of his peers. He lacks humility.
@@WolfWould I think the owner of the Kayo is white. To top this off, I already commented on this video, but there’s a website of all black owned list skate companies.
Straight robbery, period. And they did it right in front of everyone’s noses. I mean we all saw the parts. There’s no way Nyjah’s (Shine or Need That) wasn’t the gnarliest skate part this year-probably ever.
So one thing I think needs to be addressed when talking about the accusations against Nyjah is Chase Webb. After this scandal had sorta "broke" a couple years ago (when the supposed video got leaked), Chase lost all of his sponsors, stopped posting on IG, and Nyjah and D-Loy start to act like they have no memory of him. Its for that reason that I think something DID happen, I just don't think (or at least know) that Nyjah was directly involved
Nyjah is also freakishly consistent at huge gaps. He left a party one night to just land a switch big heel down Hollywood 16 in a few tries. He stuck roughly 5 bs flips (including the first attempt) down el toro. He landed on more and was closer to rolling away than Sheckler’s attempts and that’s saying something. His parts prior to ‘til Death had loads of massive gaps. I think in Rise and Shine he does the biggest switch heel I’ve ever seen. He’s said interviews that he rarely skates gaps anymore to help save his knees, which you gotta respect since he’s been jumping down shit since age 11 and wants to skate his whole life. He’s freakishly good at every style of street skater he just enjoys rails the most. Need That still had decent variety of gaps, tech ledge (and rail) tricks, even one super clean manual (many skaters don’t have any in their parts, Tyshawn included). Nyjah is just a superior skater in every way and much better person because Tyshawn acts like a asshole and some of his personal friends say he always has been lol
Dude Tyshawn is mad disrespectful I had no idea. I’ve been hearing more and more stories about him being super arrogant and conceded all things Nyjah gets accused of. At the risk of being canceled that rape story seems super suspect imo. However just because a dude can get girls doesn’t mean every girl he wants will like him, and don’t mean he won’t force himself on someone. This whole thing is crazy tho.
@@WhatisReal11 oh no I think you’re fine I was just adding my two cents for what it’s worth. I enjoy your content tho and your take on this whole thing.
I'm not even a big Nyjah fan, but homie got robbed 💯 SOTY isn't supposed to be a popularity contest. It's about the footy, and who dropped the best parts. Based on that alone.. it should've been Nyjah, no question.
@@turkjones That's a fair question, because I don't think Phelps ever handed out a rule book lol. I guess it's just what we've come to expect from SOTY over the years, and that's the way it should be imo.
Gifted Hater has stated on a separate re upload of the video that he did say something within the video that could get someone possibly fired at Thrasher. I have a screenshot of the comments. So no hate to Joa…
SOTY has ALWAYS at least in part been about the dudes at Thrasher thinking you "rep the mag" and aren't a kook. Phelps said this multiple times. There isn't a single SOTY winner in history who wasn't deemed cool by the mag in terms of attitude, fashion, and sponsor connections along with being an incredible skater that year. And there's always other people you could argue could have or should have gotten it that year. For example, the year AVE won-- he had a great year and had been killing it for years (but then so had a lot of dudes) Was he objectively the most insane skater putting out the absolute best shit that year? No. he wasn't. Did he have an insane year for his age and Thrasher loves his vibe? Yes. Bottom line -- Thrasher really likes TJ and thinks Nyjah's a kook. It's all subjective. This is not the super bowl or NBA finals.
Then why open voting, and make claims that people voted his first win? ... its hypocritical... social media soty isnt different than what it was years ago
I agree with all the points you made. I do think that the Jake Phelps factor Hass to be considered though. The year he did not give it to Dennis. He explained that “he skates in German”. Some people’s style is not “thrasher” enough. same reason Shane O’Neill will never win it. It’s not about the best tricks or video alone. You have to rep their philosophy. I can see how TJ has the edge in that essential category.
Yep. Phelps talked about "repping the mag" all the time. It's a big part of it. There's certain dudes they'll just never give it to. Phelps hated all the street league stuff.
@@maltdairy2164 sure enuf. I’m just explaining why they chose TJ. Not justifying it. It should count against you if you hold footy until November……. This AIN’T Skater of the WINTER
phelps was wacked out his fucking mind on fent and everything else. it seemed like he was lowkey daring other skaters. esp not america ones to borderline to STUNT skating. and hoping they would get hurt. just bad vibes.@@adamgoodell5805
Based on Schmitty’s podcast (Talkin' Schmit on CZcams) with Mark Suciu that dropped Dec. 13, he mentioned in the intro that at the time of filming, it would be Suciu’s last week as SOTY as they would be announcing that Tyshawn is the winner. Meaning they already picked the winner a week / weeks before even asking for poll voting on their site. This is a solid validation straight from a Thrasher employee.
IMO, GH took down his video from backlash from talking openly about the allegations. Look you can question the allegations all you want, but there is a reason Chase Webb and David Loy were pulled from the skate spotlight so quickly. That cannot be argued
For a video titled "Accusations and Lies", you accused Tyshawn of claiming he said his company was the "first" black owned skateboard company, and then literally played the video clip and there was no example of him claiming being "first," so that was a lie. When he said he was the only black owned skateboard business and looked at Nak I felt he was throwing shade at Illegal Civ because Mikey Alfred had been beefing with Nak recently and his recent story posts have "black business" all over them when trying to call the younger kids who didn't want anything to do with IC racist. I doubt Stevie is majority owner of DGK in present day, DGK/Kayo has turned into something completely different then when it first started, and Max Allure was started by Nick Lockman and Karl Watson, I don't know what the actual ownership looks like there. Tyshawn being in the business might actually have a lot more knowledge on the inside business of skateboarding, it might be possible his is currently the only majority black owned skateboard company or he could have just been throwing shade at some of the current stuff going on which I thought he was doing.
@@graftonholler6029 there’s been many skate companies started by black skaters, but when it comes to the business side, stuff always changes, companies get bought out etc, Zoo York for example. I didn’t take Tyshawn’s comment to heart, I thought he was throwing shade at IC but I read it more like “what other young black skaters are moving like this?” It was sick to learn that he was the reason Supreme started paying skaters instead of just flowing them product and using them for promo.
City Stars still exists. Nakel is literally related to Kareem, should have been more careful with my words in that context, I thought that's what he was implying, but still even if it was just a current ownership claim, its not exactly true. Mikey isn't black? He doesnt own IC? I am confused by what these even means. Mikeys issues with 700k have nothing to do with him owning the company or not, so how does the make sense.
@@carlosgrajeda1986 yeah, the jews do end up owning everything but i took it as 'i'm the only black skater to buy a company' x clearly that's not true. i think hopps is still jahmal's company but young kids prolly aren't even aware of smaller east coast jawns like that
@@WhatisReal11 I am in my mid 30's, so i have definitely seen other black skateboard companies since the time i've been skating. i know Nak is related to Kareem. I saw City Stars try to make some small comeback awhile back, but it didn't really seem to hit, I don't even think you can purchase a City Stars board from a legit site or anything like that. I know your intent was to make a video around SOTY, but i felt like Tyshawn's interview was referring or taking shots at other stuff. Sorry about being unclear, but I just brought up IC because right before Tyshawn made the comment about being the only black owned skate company, many of Mikey's posts had "black owned business" all over it, so my mind immediately went there, I was not sure if he was questioning Mikey's "blackness" or the legitimacy of his skateboard company, i mean you gotta be making money to be in business and IC seems to not be doing that right now. I thought that comment was a reference to the moves happening with Tyshawn's brand vs IC. Mikey was calling out Nak and other skaters. Lots of the dudes that were repping IC are now repping Tyshawn's brand, Zach Zaraceno quit IC and now skates for Tyshawn's brand, Nico Haraga used to skate IC and has been seeing skating a King deck, and Gary Rodgers used to rep IC also but he's friends with Tyshawn and skates with those same guys. This reminded me of the Rocco beef when Girl Skateboards started. Then again, you can make the same argument for Nyjah and Disorder Skateboards, Nyjah just started a skateboard company, is that not considered black owned? Only Tyshawn knows what he meant.
People dont say Nyjah isnt a sk8boarder. When people say nyjah isn't really a sk8er they just mean to say that he is relatively unique in his style and mindset regarding competition. He does absolutely stick out like a sore thumb in this regard
Isn't that what skateboarding is supposed to be about though? I'm not a Nyjah Stan, but I find it ironic that skaters hate on him for being carving his own path and not doing what everyone else is doing
Yeah this pissed me smooth off Nyjah deserved S.O.T.Y. btw you Disorder is black owned skate company just because Nyjah is mixed doesn't mean he isn't acknowledged in the black community as a black skater. Also that black owned business owner mindset will only get you black customers... it's a victim mindset. I'm a raw street skater also black with 2 business and I would never mention that it's black owned because I want all races to feel welcome to do business with me
@@eatassonthefirstdate absolutely brother. With that being said I do understand the hardship it takes to overcome that mindset it takes time he's young but there are others ways to express that pride such as sewing seeds in your community and acknowledging other black business owners.
i find your logic of "it's unlikely nyjah would do anything like that because he has no trouble getting girls" VERY concerning, I don't know if you meant it that way but I think there's really room for consideration there
They remind me of two anime characters when they speak on stuff no disrespect. They have a lot of character and get loud when just talking and then very very calm and quiet. Tbh I don’t know why he got soty for. Tyshawn did hard tricks like the nollie hard over the bump to bar and kickflip the train gap but it didn’t progress skating like Nyjah need that part. I think of Nyjah’s part like Milton Martinez’s demolition part just the gnarliest stuff you can imagine and a solid ender but Tyshawn wasn’t like that I mean I didn’t watch his part the year he got soty the first time didn’t even know who he was
Same here. Had no idea who he was in 2018 cause he got no coverage. His part didn’t even drop until after he got the award. Back then I thought Thrasher was just showing a bit of love to the east coast. And there ain’t no street cred wearing crazy expensive Supreme gear.
I'm old. When KT ran thrasher there was snowboarding on the cover. Dudes rocked unbelievable kits: spandex , hair extentions , full pads on street. In short a nightmare of kookary. Then Phelps who flung shit in every direction. If somebody took a wack sponsor to eat he was all over them while TNT got soty riding for boost mobile. Remember cards was a pro snowboarder right? ( Jake just rolled over) . Now it's this kook shit. Don't think it was ever any other way.
I grew up on Kevin Thatcher Thrasher. KT’s writing and responses to the mail was so funny and sarcastic. Thrasher in 80’s was not tied to one person and didn’t take itself so seriously. In the 90’s, it became equally about Phelps and became this super Bro fest of a mag.
I want to say that just because Nyjah never had a problem getting girls doesn’t exonerate him whatsoever. That’s a really bad take to have. That’s like saying all rapists have to be ugly or they couldn’t possibly rape someone. Come on now.. Also maybe the girl made a typo when trying to relive an incredibly painful memory. The girl specifically said that she was paid off to not say anything. You make it sound like the onus is on her to prove it whenever it should be on Nyjah to dispute it. That’s also a really bad take.
@@WhatisReal11 how do your other points still stand? You claim that he has always had a target on his back so he is in the clear? Don’t get me wrong.. I want to like Nyjah. I bought SB’s because of Nyjah. But the way you chose your words here is poor. Just because that girl could go to someone like TMZ to tell her story doesn’t mean that stories like hers don’t get pushed under the rug by people in power all the time.
Mainly speaking on the mention of “Black owned skateboard companies”. The mention of Kareem and Stevie owning those companies can be disputed. They “ran” those brands to an extent, while World Industries and The Kayo Corp actually owned the companies. That’s the biggest difference. I actually talked to Kareem, while he was still at World, during the those days, so it’s no disrespect towards him…or Stevie either. Karl and what he’s doing may be something different though, but I still feel “if a person isn’t in the office handling the day to day operations, while letting someone do the work, they aren’t actually an owner…they are an investor who’s likeness is being used to promote the brand. This is why a couple brands under Kayo aren’t around too; letting someone else move money around to save a brand, while letting others take the fall. So, if Tyshawn is putting up 100% of the capital to make this company from scratch, then it’s truly his company. Granted with the success of his endeavors so far, success should follow the “King” brand. He doesn’t have to try to make another huge company like board companies of the; he only needs to make what he desires, as for product, and the rest is just people feeling what he and the company are doing.
Please do a diet/ foods to eat video where I can separate myself from western poison food, I also have HH did not get ETS thankfully im 19yo body has deteriorated over past 3 years
I couldn’t agree more. Tyshawn says he wants shit-talking in skating like boxing etc.. but when Gifted Hater called out his sideways switch Ollie suddenly Tyshawn pulled the race card and called Gifted Hater a racist? The fuck? Pick a lane bro. Also apparently we need Black History Month for black skateboarders to learn about the OGs we grew up on that paved the way for them. Nyjah has his own baggage but SOTY should only be about the tricks. The Skating. The level they went-in that year idk
On slap someone posted an interview he did where he addressed all that allegations sht, I wasn't aware of the interview but it's worth the read. I knew it was bs regardless, I know how the legal system works in this country when it comes to things like that...and it's obvious nothing was found, it's all bs...person on Twitter was fos playing a nasty ass game that shouldn't ever be played with unfortunately Nyjah has had to deal with it, Chima was lame af for shouting that on the bunt etc I'll never respect the dude over that sht. Idk man I'm over the soty thing, thrasher put us in a fvcked up position this year and they are doing some weird sht when it comes to the soty thing so idc, to many odd vibes this year with the soty sht it feels off. I been a fan of Nyjah since I was a teenager and he was a little dude with big dreads, I'm a 34 yo man now...Idgaf about that sht, I'm proud of the dude, not just as a skater but as the man he's become...dudes humble, grateful and loves skateboarding..damn near killed himself going after it and still wants more, that's that Tiny hawk till the wheels fall off sht (if you haven't seen that doc highly recommend it). If soty is the biggest way in skateboarding to give a skater their flowers well they dropped the fvcking vace this year. That's no diss towards Tyshawn, I fvck with TJ and respect everything he's doing...but after watching Nyjahs parts multiple times and watching everybody else's...thrasher turned some no-brainer sht into some weird gatekeepy brainer sht that I don't understand, Gary Rogers acting weird on skate line today as well as his response series. Couple Interviews Nyjah has done lately, he doesn't seem all that phased but who knows...maybe he is a little bummed to still be getting talked about when he doesn't ever talk an ounce of sht about skateboarding anything...ever. It's whatever man.
Idc if they gave it to Tyshawn. Nyjah is the skater of the year. As good as Tyshawns part was and backside flipping over the fucking subway tracks might be the most insane shit I've ever seen. Idk how you don't give it to Nyjah, I've never even been much of a fan of his. He had banger after banger after banger...after banger. And say what you want he pays with his pound of flesh taking beastly slams. This is fucked. And dufus basically insinuating Nyjahs shit wasn't as impactful and he just put out a bunch of footage is also insane
TJ was prob talking about Chocolate with that black inspired comment, he was definitely sleeping on all the other black owned skatebrands though; Hopps, DGK, City Stars, Max Allure, Disorder and I'm sure theres others. Skateboarding definitely isn't lacking representation.
Also i dought the founding fathers of skating would ever think of slateboarding to be a “ competitive” sport outside of chill games of skate. I dont know why we feel the need to disrespect each others hard work for clout.
I liked this video, Bro. You were very collected and "smarts" on this one. I'm glad the initial shock has worn off and you're being very objective and clear about your opinion. It's all so crazy to me what's become of this whole "Thrasher SOTY title." It was invented as something cool, and to recognize the skater who truly went all out and above and beyond THAT YEAR. Now it truly has turned into a popularity contest. I've been skating for a LONG TIME, and have seen the many inceptions of Thrasher Magazine. I DO think that skaters put too much validity into who Thrasher chooses as their SOTY. Cuz it is THEIR SOTY. I understand that the skate community doesn't agree with their decision. I personally liked how Ishod said "Louie did all that skating THIS YEAR and also traveled a LOT. Not just Cali or New York City, but ALL OVER THE WORLD." So, while there are many sides to this whole conversation, and I DO agree with most of what you said here, you have your opinion, I have mine, and THRASHER obviously has their own based on whatever they base it on....everyone should just go SK8. We have 8 inches of snow here, so our only options are indoor sk8ing, snow sk8ing, or snowboarding.
I think its insulting to past skaters that have won the title as well because now Thrasher has just lost their credibility and we now know that the title doesn't mean much. We really just should be taking it with a grain of salt from now on. It sucks but its the reality of the situation. Also I just rewatched some of Loui's parts and I think his skating deserved it over Tyshawn. I loved Tyshawns skating but Loui's was just as good as well.
Hands down Nyjah put out parts this year that changed skateboarding, and took the rail game to a level beyond what's been done. This has happened a few times over the course of skate history. (Jamie Thomas Welcome to Hell, Pat Duffy Questionable and both of these guys never got SOTY) Tyshawn continues to take his style of skating to levels that no one else is even getting close to. His pop is incredible its the best I have ever seen live with a close second to Andre Genovese. Both Tyshawn and Nyjah are deserving of SOTY, shit all of them deserve it (Louie was my pick). What this video is missing is the politics of skateboarding and actually how it all works. The Thrasher voting poll most likely counts for about 50% of the vote. The other 50% is where the politics come in. Who reps the mag the most? Who has the best advertising sponsors? Who do we like the most? Photographers picks? If Thrasher just left it up to the skateboard community it would be legit, but that's not going to happen. In the end, Tyshawn looks better on a skateboard than Nyjah. To me, Louie looks better than both of them and is humble. That's my SOTY.
Agree with this 100% The politics is a huge part of this -- powerful voices within the industry -- and even though it's not entirely clear what it means "repping the mag" is something that Phelps himself used to talk about way back -- so it's always at least been part of SOTY. And yes, that's Tyshawn way more than Nyjah.
Besides this situation... There are many a 'skater' on 'instagram' and groupies that stand by there favourite skaters who in reality... Are just perhaps 'cool'?..... Real recognise Real. May the real recognise as much as other real people do.
Nyjah won. Thrasher is just ruining its prestige. It’s like fake news now, we all see the reality, even if we don’t like it, and Thrasher gonna lie to us. I’m not a Nike or Nyjah fan, but his Need That was the craziest shit skating has seen since Danny Way.
I don’t think Nyjah should’ve won, but I don’t think Tyshawn should’ve won either. I think it’s valid to not give Nyjah SOTY because of the way he conducts himself. SOTY isn’t about who is the best skater, it’s about who embodied skating the best and personally I went to skating because it wasn’t a full jock sport, it didn’t have the same competitiveness that a sport have and had more expression. Nyjah doesn’t make me want to skate, and I know a lot of people who Nyjah doesn’t inspire either so I understand why he didn’t win it
I mean this sorta looks at skating “objective” it’s almost impossible to do this for skating aside from how many flips and stair numbers but does it entertain is the point of objectivity how many views you get how high you pop how many stairs you skate? But is even winning a contest an objective achievement to skating
I will never understand all the hype on Tyshawn. Yeah, he can pop ultra high and... He is not even on par with guys like Louie, Carlos Ribeiro, Miles, Foy, T-Funk, Suciu, Luan, he is like an awesome niche dude and thats it, cool mega pop dude from NY, great, but nor even close to the best skaters from our age. Its outrageous he is a double SOTY and guys like Busenitz , Penny and Gonz never won it.
Watching this 2nd time as CZcams brings it again to me in the algorithm just makes me pissed off again! When you see Tyshwan interview and at his celebration party it’s pretty obvious he even knows this year probably should have gone to Nyjah but it doesn’t matter history and then 10x as many views his parts get let’s everyone know who most people think should have gone
I think joa deleted his bud because it lowkey sounded like he was accusing nyjah and he didn’t want a bunch of people To just see it and belive him like everyone does
Skating is and has always been a way for people of all different walks of life to come together and be human with each other. Tyshawn wants us all to talk shit about each others skating?? That’s one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard.
I can think of nothing lamer than legendary skate spots turning into drama filled circus acts like boxing press conferences. Who would think that's cool?
Jon Allie footage doesnt mean anything, just totally random visual filler that got pushed to weird spot. Sorry for the confusion
big corpo telling us what is SOTY just like they tell us everything else we should believe. oh and good video!
@@whiskeyhoarder9587 that's all it really is. It's just more fake bs. Everything else is fake why wouldn't soty be as well?
3rd video?????? bro u r so angry bwhahwbahh
@@michaelkys Your account name is this. Sorry if rational discussion makes you uncomfortable.
@@WhatisReal11 le intelektual discusion :^))))i am so smart and insanely sweatyy
Tyshawns ego makes Nyjah look almost humble in comparison
That’s bullshit 😂😂😂😂
@@firstsonofthesea7938 What part? Bc Tyshawn definitely has a big ego. Named his company King for fucks sake.
It really does.
Jah's ego has actually toned down a TINY bit since like the lockdown first happened.....
@@firstsonofthesea7938 you must not have watched the same clip we did then lol
Everyone’s talking nyjah and tyshawn, meanwhile, Louie is skating all around the world lmao
Louie shoulda sat on that footy til next year
Louie is not in Nyjah lol that not a even a close comparison Louie lol bra has zero accolades 2 good video parts cut it out 90pecent of kids don’t know who Louie is
@@savagelifeskateboarding I’m not even sure of wtf you’re trying to say here, shit gave me a headache trying to make sense of what you typed lol. Louie was literally in the SOTY running at the time but ok.
@@Antonioiam Louie’s footage was trash compared to the other soty nominees he should not have dropped that knowing what was out simple you understand that its real simple
@@savagelifeskateboarding just a little punctuation will take you a long way bruh lol but ok. You commenting on a year old post anyway so 🤷🏽♂️
There are so many CZcamsrs and Skaters coming out and saying that Nyjah was robbed. I’ve even seen people who don’t like him or his style and don’t prefer his skating who are admiting he should have been SOTY. Crazy.
I’m not even a huge fan of his, but there’s no way he did have the best part this year (pick either one).
I'm not a fan neither, but that was straight robbery.
He didn’t he just didn’t have the exposure and everybody thought his parts were enough to win it’s wasn’t it was boring and forgettable and he had no covers all year
@@firstsonofthesea7938 his parts were enough to win, it's ment to be who was the best skater of the year not who got the most coverage, and if you wanna talk about coverage his parts have way more views than tyshawns
Robbed 😂😂😂😂😂
Nyjah Fanboys are everywhere..
I don't hate the guy but he's not SOTY , not even close .. He drops a video at the end of the season & you all think he's skater of the year all of a sudden .. If you want to talk about sk8ers being robbed then lets talk about all the sk8ers who were robbed in competition going up against Nyjah with their bias judging .. Aurelien Giraud is one to name a few , it happened only a few months ago 🤷♂️
The people who think Tyshawn deserved SOTY are so silly that they will make fun of Nylah's shorts while being oblivious that Tyshawn also wears tiny athletic shorts haha
Nyjah not winning taints the award itself
I said in a comment above, it's an insult to everyone who has won the award in the past cause they have lost thier credibility.
@@andofb agree
I agree. I don't think I'll be taking the award seriously at all. There are have been a few years I already thought weren't the best choices but this one was particularly bad. Often times they neglect great skaters or parts in the first half of the year.
Award is now worthless.
I feel like anyone who doesn't think nyjah deserved this year soty either hasn't skated long enough to understand the difficulty of his tricks or are straight-up hating.
His "need that" part is something we will appreciate years to come and will be the most memorable part of this year.
In my opinion, what makes a skater of the year is personality and "sport" level, it's about character, personality and skills. Tfunk all day
@@xkingofnuthinx T-Funk is good but his latest part was definitely not SOTY material.
Dan I agree..I was at a loss for words after watching Nyjah’s part
@@kendtchileninjah5905 It's like your opinion man and I respect that. For me its skater of the year not skate video of the year.
I will argue that Tfunk should’ve won. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it a hundred more times, no one skates harder, faster, or heavier then Tfunk and I personally think that’s the type of skating to win soty…. Honestly it’s pretty subjective. I hate handrails and honestly once you’ve got them locked in they’re not hard. Watching a nyjah part to me is like watching someone play THPS it’s not the same as the grittiness of Tfunk or tyshaun part. But like I said it’s subjective and that’s my opinion and how I view skating. Personally I’d rather watch a switch flip in to a huge hill bomb then one of nyjahs hundred clips doing a perfect Krook down a 16 stair.
I lost so much respect for Chima from his words on that podcast. He just throws out allegations at first then goes “oh I don’t know if it actually happened, just heard a tape is going around, never been to his house.” If you don’t know for sure that a legit abusive crime happened then don’t even mention it, especially for a guy as famous as Nyjah, allegations like that can legit ruin lives of innocent people. Thought he was one of the more respectable guys in skating but honestly Nyjah carries himself as a really mature and bright guy. Especially for having such a crazy father, being famous and wealthy so young. Doubt he even finished middle school so I’m genuinely impressed with how bright he comes across. And Chima shut your mouth if you don’t even know what you are saying happened.
I felt the same way man, lost respect for Chima, why would he be talking about that bs in an interview. Douche move.
I have no doubt there's a video of them running a train on a girl but I highly doubt it was rape, especially if there was a video and so many people involved
As for Chima speaking about it I feel like people are just taking his words and running with them, it sounded like a normal conversation and yeah definitely shouldn't have been aired to the public like that
He’s not the only person who said nyjah he raped a chick
@@HI-pi1er name someone credible who said it and the evidence they have? Oh wait there is no one and no evidence or he'd be in jail 🥴
@@llll7396 that’s why he didn’t get soty because of the allegations and he dresses like shit to
even all of the Nyjah haters are saying that he should have won SOTY this year
then they really not nyjah haters then foo. their just secret lovers of him, duh
IKR
Nyjah's two recent parts were mind blowing. They are the type of parts that will go down in infamy.
Tyshawn's parts were good, but I couldn't tell you one trick in it besides the ollie over the table.
He definitely doesn't deserve to be a two time winner.
This is some weird stuff.
That's literally the only thing I could remember, too. Shit is a joke.
Facts!!!
@@skatevans1215 💯
Tyshawn is gnarly but his style is awful..knock knees but i hate to dsy it its 2022 the woke thrasher had to pick the brotha 🤣
@@lloydchristmas1086 you said what everybody wanted to say. Cheers. I agree
Let's be real. Nyjah is so far beyond everyone else, that is why he gets hate. Tyshawn's last part really was something else too. Each clip felt like an ender, no dead weight. That being said Nyjah definitely had the hardest shit, on the gnarliest shit and he got robbed. Haven't seen anyone else touch half of those spots because they know it'll fuck them up. Skateboarding thrives because it's inclusive. People from all walks of life. I hate seeing "skaters" try to turn it into the opposite.
Some people just don’t don’t like that style of skateboarding, but when Nyjah skates Street he doesn’t look like someone who actually skates, he looks like he’s taking contest tricks to spots. Don’t get me wrong I think it’s dope, but I prefer Tyshawns style and the way his parts were put together more. Nyjah didnt lose because people are jealous, he lost it because a lot of people, especially people influential in the industry preferred Tyshawns skating.
@@chrisperez3614 that is subjective, objectively Nyjah is better because he is capable of far more than Tyshawn. Tyshawn can pop really high, that's his schtick. That's it.
Done with Thrasher
Nyjah is the best at skateboarding he doesn’t need the #soty trophy 🏆!!
Of course Tyshawn remembers THPS, he was in the latest version. This is probably the most disputed SOTY award I can recall and think the award is tarnished, but this ordeal will be forgotten about by March. I think Gifted Hater's vid was taken down because of the accusation with Tyshawn strong-arming Thrasher into giving him the award in exchanged for the train track bs flip. For those will never forget this SOTY run, it has left a bad look on the mag and on Tyshawn Jones [he really wants to beef with other skaters and their video parts?]
Well said 👏 👏👏
GH deleted his video because he said it could get someone fired has nothing to do with tyshawn.
Tyshawn lost all my respect along with thrasher
tyshawn this, nyjah that. tfunk was the real SOTY
Tyshawn can beef with other skaters but won’t mean much if he ain’t winning comps
We must never forget the people that got us to the point we’re at right now and the history that was made for us all to enjoy the skateboarding we have today. Embrace the legends.
Rodney Mullen in particular
In TJ’s Thrasher interview he said he never watches skate vids. Seems like he knows little of what skateboarding is today and how we got here.
@@rzadigi TJ is from NY pretty sure he's skated with so many legends prob why he so good
@@adamgonesage you missed the point. TJ fails to recognize the black owned companies before his, thinking his is the first. He’s also failing to recognize the legends that came before him and he’s not interested in watching the accomplishments of his peers. He lacks humility.
What’s even more weird about TJ making that blaxk owned comment is apparently Kareem Campbell is Nak’s uncle, & Nak still ain’t say shit 🤔
Sick of them and there need for praise when they can imitate ppl who are..... People
Isn't DGK all owned by Stevie Williams too? Or naw
@@WolfWould no DGK is co-owned by a white vc dude
@@WolfWould I think the owner of the Kayo is white. To top this off, I already commented on this video, but there’s a website of all black owned list skate companies.
Straight robbery, period. And they did it right in front of everyone’s noses. I mean we all saw the parts. There’s no way Nyjah’s (Shine or Need That) wasn’t the gnarliest skate part this year-probably ever.
This was the content I needed
Thrasher is Walmart tech decks who gives a fuck
amazing comment
Great video again. Thanks a lot for looking into this topic and sharing your thoughts!
So one thing I think needs to be addressed when talking about the accusations against Nyjah is Chase Webb. After this scandal had sorta "broke" a couple years ago (when the supposed video got leaked), Chase lost all of his sponsors, stopped posting on IG, and Nyjah and D-Loy start to act like they have no memory of him. Its for that reason that I think something DID happen, I just don't think (or at least know) that Nyjah was directly involved
that aint the only one either.
@@DIRTY-MERLIN what else is there?
Great video. Good takes, well informed, no ill intentions. This type of content is a breath of fresh air.
Another great video on the subject. 🔥💯🔥💯🔥💯
Nyjah is also freakishly consistent at huge gaps. He left a party one night to just land a switch big heel down Hollywood 16 in a few tries. He stuck roughly 5 bs flips (including the first attempt) down el toro. He landed on more and was closer to rolling away than Sheckler’s attempts and that’s saying something. His parts prior to ‘til Death had loads of massive gaps. I think in Rise and Shine he does the biggest switch heel I’ve ever seen. He’s said interviews that he rarely skates gaps anymore to help save his knees, which you gotta respect since he’s been jumping down shit since age 11 and wants to skate his whole life. He’s freakishly good at every style of street skater he just enjoys rails the most. Need That still had decent variety of gaps, tech ledge (and rail) tricks, even one super clean manual (many skaters don’t have any in their parts, Tyshawn included). Nyjah is just a superior skater in every way and much better person because Tyshawn acts like a asshole and some of his personal friends say he always has been lol
If role models was an actual term in skate boarding Nyjah 1000% better than TJ. Nyjah did win SOTY this year but only as the people's champ.
But that means nothing when you look like an actual turd being pooped while you do it
Dude Tyshawn is mad disrespectful I had no idea. I’ve been hearing more and more stories about him being super arrogant and conceded all things Nyjah gets accused of. At the risk of being canceled that rape story seems super suspect imo. However just because a dude can get girls doesn’t mean every girl he wants will like him, and don’t mean he won’t force himself on someone. This whole thing is crazy tho.
that's true, ya should have maybe worded that part more carefully. Didn't necessarily mean it as proof of anything either way.
@@WhatisReal11 oh no I think you’re fine I was just adding my two cents for what it’s worth. I enjoy your content tho and your take on this whole thing.
I'm not even a big Nyjah fan, but homie got robbed 💯
SOTY isn't supposed to be a popularity contest. It's about the footy, and who dropped the best parts. Based on that alone.. it should've been Nyjah, no question.
But who ever said that’s actually what it’s about?
@@turkjones That's a fair question, because I don't think Phelps ever handed out a rule book lol. I guess it's just what we've come to expect from SOTY over the years, and that's the way it should be imo.
Tyshawn was my last choice of the four. Whatever your opinion of him, Nyah deserved it this year hands down. He killed it.
All facts Z.G., I agree
Thrasher is losing hella cred these days
Over Nyjah Huston 😂😂😂 get fucked
Vey Good video thank you. For shedding some light that thrasher won't.
They banned me on the skateboarding subreddit because I said these “sources” were literally just words on a screen 😂
That's a badge of honor.
Gifted Hater has stated on a separate re upload of the video that he did say something within the video that could get someone possibly fired at Thrasher. I have a screenshot of the comments. So no hate to Joa…
SOTY has ALWAYS at least in part been about the dudes at Thrasher thinking you "rep the mag" and aren't a kook. Phelps said this multiple times. There isn't a single SOTY winner in history who wasn't deemed cool by the mag in terms of attitude, fashion, and sponsor connections along with being an incredible skater that year. And there's always other people you could argue could have or should have gotten it that year.
For example, the year AVE won-- he had a great year and had been killing it for years (but then so had a lot of dudes) Was he objectively the most insane skater putting out the absolute best shit that year? No. he wasn't. Did he have an insane year for his age and Thrasher loves his vibe? Yes.
Bottom line -- Thrasher really likes TJ and thinks Nyjah's a kook.
It's all subjective. This is not the super bowl or NBA finals.
Then why open voting, and make claims that people voted his first win? ... its hypocritical... social media soty isnt different than what it was years ago
@@WhatisReal11 I agree. The voting seems like it's not really being recognized. Like they look at it, but still pick who they want.
@@adamgoodell5805the voting has never been recognized we knew this to begin with
All facts. Great commentary.
💯👏🏼 You are spot on.
I agree with all the points you made. I do think that the Jake Phelps factor Hass to be considered though. The year he did not give it to Dennis. He explained that “he skates in German”. Some people’s style is not “thrasher” enough. same reason Shane O’Neill will never win it. It’s not about the best tricks or video alone. You have to rep their philosophy. I can see how TJ has the edge in that essential category.
Fuck Jake Phelps. Jake was a shitty human being. The fact that he passed away doesn't change that.
Yep. Phelps talked about "repping the mag" all the time. It's a big part of it. There's certain dudes they'll just never give it to. Phelps hated all the street league stuff.
@@maltdairy2164 sure enuf. I’m just explaining why they chose TJ. Not justifying it.
It should count against you if you hold footy until November…….
This AIN’T Skater of the WINTER
exactly, all these thps kids thinking combos get the win because points
phelps was wacked out his fucking mind on fent and everything else. it seemed like he was lowkey daring other skaters. esp not america ones to borderline to STUNT skating. and hoping they would get hurt. just bad vibes.@@adamgoodell5805
Give it up Tyshawn is well deserved 2x SOTY he has a better aesthetic
Thank you I've been saying this. If transworld had stuck around they could give an award to nyjah. Tyshawn was straight raw.
yeah kook who made this video is such a pansy.. Tyshawn won fair n square.and he cant live with the results. he on suicide watch for sure !LOL
Feels before reels
Aesthetics before skills
You guys were raised as defective girls
it is almost like THRASHER is run by Tillies now lol
Nyjah got robbed, his "filler" was other dudes whole part.
LOL! Great job.
Tyshawn Jones SOTY Part (2022) Song : RK Bankhead - Vent
czcams.com/video/I6reSaWJ-WQ/video.html
Based on Schmitty’s podcast (Talkin' Schmit on CZcams) with Mark Suciu that dropped Dec. 13, he mentioned in the intro that at the time of filming, it would be Suciu’s last week as SOTY as they would be announcing that Tyshawn is the winner. Meaning they already picked the winner a week / weeks before even asking for poll voting on their site. This is a solid validation straight from a Thrasher employee.
IMO, GH took down his video from backlash from talking openly about the allegations. Look you can question the allegations all you want, but there is a reason Chase Webb and David Loy were pulled from the skate spotlight so quickly. That cannot be argued
For a video titled "Accusations and Lies", you accused Tyshawn of claiming he said his company was the "first" black owned skateboard company, and then literally played the video clip and there was no example of him claiming being "first," so that was a lie. When he said he was the only black owned skateboard business and looked at Nak I felt he was throwing shade at Illegal Civ because Mikey Alfred had been beefing with Nak recently and his recent story posts have "black business" all over them when trying to call the younger kids who didn't want anything to do with IC racist. I doubt Stevie is majority owner of DGK in present day, DGK/Kayo has turned into something completely different then when it first started, and Max Allure was started by Nick Lockman and Karl Watson, I don't know what the actual ownership looks like there. Tyshawn being in the business might actually have a lot more knowledge on the inside business of skateboarding, it might be possible his is currently the only majority black owned skateboard company or he could have just been throwing shade at some of the current stuff going on which I thought he was doing.
Hopps, bro. Jahmal Williams has been owned that. didn't Sal have 23 skateboards for a while? i'm prolly forgetting some others.
@@graftonholler6029 there’s been many skate companies started by black skaters, but when it comes to the business side, stuff always changes, companies get bought out etc, Zoo York for example. I didn’t take Tyshawn’s comment to heart, I thought he was throwing shade at IC but I read it more like “what other young black skaters are moving like this?” It was sick to learn that he was the reason Supreme started paying skaters instead of just flowing them product and using them for promo.
City Stars still exists. Nakel is literally related to Kareem, should have been more careful with my words in that context, I thought that's what he was implying, but still even if it was just a current ownership claim, its not exactly true. Mikey isn't black? He doesnt own IC? I am confused by what these even means. Mikeys issues with 700k have nothing to do with him owning the company or not, so how does the make sense.
@@carlosgrajeda1986 yeah, the jews do end up owning everything but i took it as 'i'm the only black skater to buy a company' x clearly that's not true. i think hopps is still jahmal's company but young kids prolly aren't even aware of smaller east coast jawns like that
@@WhatisReal11 I am in my mid 30's, so i have definitely seen other black skateboard companies since the time i've been skating. i know Nak is related to Kareem. I saw City Stars try to make some small comeback awhile back, but it didn't really seem to hit, I don't even think you can purchase a City Stars board from a legit site or anything like that. I know your intent was to make a video around SOTY, but i felt like Tyshawn's interview was referring or taking shots at other stuff. Sorry about being unclear, but I just brought up IC because right before Tyshawn made the comment about being the only black owned skate company, many of Mikey's posts had "black owned business" all over it, so my mind immediately went there, I was not sure if he was questioning Mikey's "blackness" or the legitimacy of his skateboard company, i mean you gotta be making money to be in business and IC seems to not be doing that right now. I thought that comment was a reference to the moves happening with Tyshawn's brand vs IC. Mikey was calling out Nak and other skaters. Lots of the dudes that were repping IC are now repping Tyshawn's brand, Zach Zaraceno quit IC and now skates for Tyshawn's brand, Nico Haraga used to skate IC and has been seeing skating a King deck, and Gary Rodgers used to rep IC also but he's friends with Tyshawn and skates with those same guys. This reminded me of the Rocco beef when Girl Skateboards started. Then again, you can make the same argument for Nyjah and Disorder Skateboards, Nyjah just started a skateboard company, is that not considered black owned? Only Tyshawn knows what he meant.
It’s crazy how nobody really cared about this situation until him and Tyshawn were getting picked for SOTY
People dont say Nyjah isnt a sk8boarder. When people say nyjah isn't really a sk8er they just mean to say that he is relatively unique in his style and mindset regarding competition. He does absolutely stick out like a sore thumb in this regard
Isn't that what skateboarding is supposed to be about though? I'm not a Nyjah Stan, but I find it ironic that skaters hate on him for being carving his own path and not doing what everyone else is doing
@@kylealmorabi4273 then why not have andy anderson win you kook
Yeah this pissed me smooth off
Nyjah deserved S.O.T.Y. btw you Disorder is black owned skate company just because Nyjah is mixed doesn't mean he isn't acknowledged in the black community as a black skater.
Also that black owned business owner mindset will only get you black customers... it's a victim mindset.
I'm a raw street skater also black with 2 business and I would never mention that it's black owned because I want all races to feel welcome to do business with me
Exactly.
Victim mentality = libtard
It's a breath of fresh air to hear that mentality bro. Thank you.
@@eatassonthefirstdate absolutely brother. With that being said I do understand the hardship it takes to overcome that mindset it takes time he's young but there are others ways to express that pride such as sewing seeds in your community and acknowledging other black business owners.
The intro lol
You know, in that video where Phelps congrats Tyshawn in 2018. Idk but something about Phelps demeanor made it seem like he wasn't that hyped.
i find your logic of "it's unlikely nyjah would do anything like that because he has no trouble getting girls" VERY concerning, I don't know if you meant it that way but I think there's really room for consideration there
it was a general statement, not that it proves anything one way or another. Apologize if it was worded poorly.
Snowflake
@@thisgame2 poser, take your dumbfuck fraternity shit back to football
Yep, that’s problematic as hell
They remind me of two anime characters when they speak on stuff no disrespect. They have a lot of character and get loud when just talking and then very very calm and quiet. Tbh I don’t know why he got soty for. Tyshawn did hard tricks like the nollie hard over the bump to bar and kickflip the train gap but it didn’t progress skating like Nyjah need that part. I think of Nyjah’s part like Milton Martinez’s demolition part just the gnarliest stuff you can imagine and a solid ender but Tyshawn wasn’t like that I mean I didn’t watch his part the year he got soty the first time didn’t even know who he was
Same here. Had no idea who he was in 2018 cause he got no coverage. His part didn’t even drop until after he got the award. Back then I thought Thrasher was just showing a bit of love to the east coast.
And there ain’t no street cred wearing crazy expensive Supreme gear.
I'm old. When KT ran thrasher there was snowboarding on the cover. Dudes rocked unbelievable kits: spandex , hair extentions , full pads on street. In short a nightmare of kookary. Then Phelps who flung shit in every direction. If somebody took a wack sponsor to eat he was all over them while TNT got soty riding for boost mobile. Remember cards was a pro snowboarder right? ( Jake just rolled over) . Now it's this kook shit. Don't think it was ever any other way.
I grew up on Kevin Thatcher Thrasher. KT’s writing and responses to the mail was so funny and sarcastic. Thrasher in 80’s was not tied to one person and didn’t take itself so seriously. In the 90’s, it became equally about Phelps and became this super Bro fest of a mag.
@@genesung5589 I'm a vampire, and I skate.
if this was boxing Tyshawn got knocked out but still won the fight
Nyjah SOTY 2022 in my book. Thrasher trippin heavy
Nyjah started his brand before Tyshawn so that's another black-owned brand right there.
I want to say that just because Nyjah never had a problem getting girls doesn’t exonerate him whatsoever. That’s a really bad take to have.
That’s like saying all rapists have to be ugly or they couldn’t possibly rape someone.
Come on now..
Also maybe the girl made a typo when trying to relive an incredibly painful memory. The girl specifically said that she was paid off to not say anything. You make it sound like the onus is on her to prove it whenever it should be on Nyjah to dispute it.
That’s also a really bad take.
it wasn't meant to exonerate him. I should have worded that better, but other points still stand.
@@WhatisReal11 how do your other points still stand? You claim that he has always had a target on his back so he is in the clear?
Don’t get me wrong.. I want to like Nyjah. I bought SB’s because of Nyjah. But the way you chose your words here is poor. Just because that girl could go to someone like TMZ to tell her story doesn’t mean that stories like hers don’t get pushed under the rug by people in power all the time.
No comparison. Nyjahs year was one of the best ever.
Mainly speaking on the mention of “Black owned skateboard companies”. The mention of Kareem and Stevie owning those companies can be disputed. They “ran” those brands to an extent, while World Industries and The Kayo Corp actually owned the companies. That’s the biggest difference. I actually talked to Kareem, while he was still at World, during the those days, so it’s no disrespect towards him…or Stevie either. Karl and what he’s doing may be something different though, but I still feel “if a person isn’t in the office handling the day to day operations, while letting someone do the work, they aren’t actually an owner…they are an investor who’s likeness is being used to promote the brand. This is why a couple brands under Kayo aren’t around too; letting someone else move money around to save a brand, while letting others take the fall.
So, if Tyshawn is putting up 100% of the capital to make this company from scratch, then it’s truly his company. Granted with the success of his endeavors so far, success should follow the “King” brand. He doesn’t have to try to make another huge company like board companies of the; he only needs to make what he desires, as for product, and the rest is just people feeling what he and the company are doing.
Disorder skateboards
@@WhatisReal11 I understand. ..and there is irony in that too, based on SOTY. STEADHAM Skates-late 80’s early 90’s era
Gifteds Soty video is on his patreon btw
Please do a diet/ foods to eat video where I can separate myself from western poison food, I also have HH did not get ETS thankfully im 19yo body has deteriorated over past 3 years
Sick video
Click bait is all 🪤
Nyjah's body of work this year was better. Nothing more to say.
I just watched Tyshawns part and really, that got soty? Fking bad politics, destroying this country.
I couldn’t agree more. Tyshawn says he wants shit-talking in skating like boxing etc.. but when Gifted Hater called out his sideways switch Ollie suddenly Tyshawn pulled the race card and called Gifted Hater a racist? The fuck? Pick a lane bro. Also apparently we need Black History Month for black skateboarders to learn about the OGs we grew up on that paved the way for them. Nyjah has his own baggage but SOTY should only be about the tricks. The Skating. The level they went-in that year idk
2:36 how can someone say that and just laugh so casually. Like no confirmation whatsoever.
On slap someone posted an interview he did where he addressed all that allegations sht, I wasn't aware of the interview but it's worth the read. I knew it was bs regardless, I know how the legal system works in this country when it comes to things like that...and it's obvious nothing was found, it's all bs...person on Twitter was fos playing a nasty ass game that shouldn't ever be played with unfortunately Nyjah has had to deal with it, Chima was lame af for shouting that on the bunt etc I'll never respect the dude over that sht. Idk man I'm over the soty thing, thrasher put us in a fvcked up position this year and they are doing some weird sht when it comes to the soty thing so idc, to many odd vibes this year with the soty sht it feels off. I been a fan of Nyjah since I was a teenager and he was a little dude with big dreads, I'm a 34 yo man now...Idgaf about that sht, I'm proud of the dude, not just as a skater but as the man he's become...dudes humble, grateful and loves skateboarding..damn near killed himself going after it and still wants more, that's that Tiny hawk till the wheels fall off sht (if you haven't seen that doc highly recommend it). If soty is the biggest way in skateboarding to give a skater their flowers well they dropped the fvcking vace this year. That's no diss towards Tyshawn, I fvck with TJ and respect everything he's doing...but after watching Nyjahs parts multiple times and watching everybody else's...thrasher turned some no-brainer sht into some weird gatekeepy brainer sht that I don't understand, Gary Rogers acting weird on skate line today as well as his response series. Couple Interviews Nyjah has done lately, he doesn't seem all that phased but who knows...maybe he is a little bummed to still be getting talked about when he doesn't ever talk an ounce of sht about skateboarding anything...ever. It's whatever man.
If someone could find that interview id like to see it
Yea I’d really like to see that interview!
5:54 yeah that pissed me off when I was watching that and he said that
Absolutely if they had video evidence of dudes gang banging an underage drunk girl then there would be charges
It obviously shows her doing it consensualy a district attorney would be all over that she's obviously questionable and flaky
"Filler" 🤣
Idc if they gave it to Tyshawn. Nyjah is the skater of the year. As good as Tyshawns part was and backside flipping over the fucking subway tracks might be the most insane shit I've ever seen. Idk how you don't give it to Nyjah, I've never even been much of a fan of his. He had banger after banger after banger...after banger. And say what you want he pays with his pound of flesh taking beastly slams. This is fucked. And dufus basically insinuating Nyjahs shit wasn't as impactful and he just put out a bunch of footage is also insane
i don't understand the Allie footage, he had some accusation too?
nothing it was just random filler got pushed to a weird spot. Totally random
TJ was prob talking about Chocolate with that black inspired comment, he was definitely sleeping on all the other black owned skatebrands though; Hopps, DGK, City Stars, Max Allure, Disorder and I'm sure theres others. Skateboarding definitely isn't lacking representation.
Plus why did this tweet come out when SOTY we being considered
Also i dought the founding fathers of skating would ever think of slateboarding to be a “ competitive” sport outside of chill games of skate. I dont know why we feel the need to disrespect each others hard work for clout.
I liked this video, Bro. You were very collected and "smarts" on this one. I'm glad the initial shock has worn off and you're being very objective and clear about your opinion. It's all so crazy to me what's become of this whole "Thrasher SOTY title." It was invented as something cool, and to recognize the skater who truly went all out and above and beyond THAT YEAR. Now it truly has turned into a popularity contest. I've been skating for a LONG TIME, and have seen the many inceptions of Thrasher Magazine. I DO think that skaters put too much validity into who Thrasher chooses as their SOTY. Cuz it is THEIR SOTY. I understand that the skate community doesn't agree with their decision. I personally liked how Ishod said "Louie did all that skating THIS YEAR and also traveled a LOT. Not just Cali or New York City, but ALL OVER THE WORLD." So, while there are many sides to this whole conversation, and I DO agree with most of what you said here, you have your opinion, I have mine, and THRASHER obviously has their own based on whatever they base it on....everyone should just go SK8. We have 8 inches of snow here, so our only options are indoor sk8ing, snow sk8ing, or snowboarding.
And completely disregarding DGK!? THAT is crazy....Stevie did a LOT for sk8'ing. Still is....
I think its insulting to past skaters that have won the title as well because now Thrasher has just lost their credibility and we now know that the title doesn't mean much.
We really just should be taking it with a grain of salt from now on. It sucks but its the reality of the situation.
Also I just rewatched some of Loui's parts and I think his skating deserved it over Tyshawn. I loved Tyshawns skating but Loui's was just as good as well.
Anyone know what happened to gifted haters video
It's on his Patreon, it was Abt to get a Thrasher dude fired I guess 🤷🏻♂️
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Hands down Nyjah put out parts this year that changed skateboarding, and took the rail game to a level beyond what's been done. This has happened a few times over the course of skate history. (Jamie Thomas Welcome to Hell, Pat Duffy Questionable and both of these guys never got SOTY) Tyshawn continues to take his style of skating to levels that no one else is even getting close to. His pop is incredible its the best I have ever seen live with a close second to Andre Genovese. Both Tyshawn and Nyjah are deserving of SOTY, shit all of them deserve it (Louie was my pick). What this video is missing is the politics of skateboarding and actually how it all works. The Thrasher voting poll most likely counts for about 50% of the vote. The other 50% is where the politics come in. Who reps the mag the most? Who has the best advertising sponsors? Who do we like the most? Photographers picks? If Thrasher just left it up to the skateboard community it would be legit, but that's not going to happen.
In the end, Tyshawn looks better on a skateboard than Nyjah. To me, Louie looks better than both of them and is humble. That's my SOTY.
Agree with this 100% The politics is a huge part of this -- powerful voices within the industry -- and even though it's not entirely clear what it means "repping the mag" is something that Phelps himself used to talk about way back -- so it's always at least been part of SOTY. And yes, that's Tyshawn way more than Nyjah.
I’ve never disagreed with SOTY until now…Nyjah was robbed his part was the craziest I’ve seen in a very long time.
Besides this situation... There are many a 'skater' on 'instagram' and groupies that stand by there favourite skaters who in reality... Are just perhaps 'cool'?..... Real recognise Real. May the real recognise as much as other real people do.
GH has his vid on patreon, he said something that could have gotten Simone in trouble at thrasher apparently.
Tyshawn the Soulja boy of skateboarding
gifted hater on patreon said the vid had potential to get someone fired so he took it down
When TJ said "black owned, not black inspired, you know who im talking to" im pretty sure he was reffering to Mikey Alfred with Illegal Civ
It fits bill more than Mikey because Mikey is actually black
@@kharyan2 exactly
Well, the woman remembers everything yet she says that wasn’t aware of what’s going on….
Nyjah won. Thrasher is just ruining its prestige. It’s like fake news now, we all see the reality, even if we don’t like it, and Thrasher gonna lie to us. I’m not a Nike or Nyjah fan, but his Need That was the craziest shit skating has seen since Danny Way.
6:25 idk if Chris Pastras counts because he co-owns Stereo Skateboards with Jason Lee and they’ve been around since late 90s early 00s?
totally, valid. Its ridiculous for tyshawn to think he is groundbreaking in that sense.... skating has always been diverse as hell.
nyjah in my book is soty!
I don’t think Nyjah should’ve won, but I don’t think Tyshawn should’ve won either. I think it’s valid to not give Nyjah SOTY because of the way he conducts himself. SOTY isn’t about who is the best skater, it’s about who embodied skating the best and personally I went to skating because it wasn’t a full jock sport, it didn’t have the same competitiveness that a sport have and had more expression.
Nyjah doesn’t make me want to skate, and I know a lot of people who Nyjah doesn’t inspire either so I understand why he didn’t win it
I mean this sorta looks at skating “objective” it’s almost impossible to do this for skating aside from how many flips and stair numbers but does it entertain is the point of objectivity how many views you get how high you pop how many stairs you skate? But is even winning a contest an objective achievement to skating
Finally getting those views! 💪
guess I am a skate commentary channel now.
Stevie Williams is even ahead of tyshawn for black owned skateboard brand
4:59 that’s so backhanded. Can’t someone just be talented?
Tj is thrasher soty.. Nyjah IS 2022 SOTY
I will never understand all the hype on Tyshawn. Yeah, he can pop ultra high and... He is not even on par with guys like Louie, Carlos Ribeiro, Miles, Foy, T-Funk, Suciu, Luan, he is like an awesome niche dude and thats it, cool mega pop dude from NY, great, but nor even close to the best skaters from our age. Its outrageous he is a double SOTY and guys like Busenitz , Penny and Gonz never won it.
Watching this 2nd time as CZcams brings it again to me in the algorithm just makes me pissed off again! When you see Tyshwan interview and at his celebration party it’s pretty obvious he even knows this year probably should have gone to Nyjah but it doesn’t matter history and then 10x as many views his parts get let’s everyone know who most people think should have gone
I think joa deleted his bud because it lowkey sounded like he was accusing nyjah and he didn’t want a bunch of people
To just see it and belive him like everyone does
Tyshawn most overrated skater ever! That's a fact. Joslin was robbed and Nyjah also
The general was a run of the mill part in my opinion.
It was, aside from like 3 BANGIN bangers, NYJAHS entire 12 MINUTE FVCKING VIDE0 was all bangers. Well like 80% was. Video Ending tricks. Straight up.
Skating is and has always been a way for people of all different walks of life to come together and be human with each other. Tyshawn wants us all to talk shit about each others skating?? That’s one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard.
I can think of nothing lamer than legendary skate spots turning into drama filled circus acts like boxing press conferences. Who would think that's cool?