KORN THEN VS. NOW - Riffs From Their First Album and Last Album (2021) Riff Battle

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  • čas přidán 3. 06. 2021
  • Pioneers of the nu metal genre, Korn has been delivering their brand of infectious down tuned grooves since 1994. They are a band that never strayed too far from their roots, but as always, the question is old vs. new! How do their riffs stack up 25 years later?
    Artist: Korn
    Albums: Korn (1994) and The Nothing (2019)
    Tuning: Drop A
    Mixed by Richard Perdomo
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Komentáře • 167

  • @marshallsmith619
    @marshallsmith619 Před 3 lety +71

    Man, this has to be the closest riff battle yet.

    • @SuperTama98
      @SuperTama98 Před 2 lety +4

      The man is having a riff battle against himself
      What a legend

  • @BuBuBDunk
    @BuBuBDunk Před 3 lety +118

    Their album before this easily has some of their hardest riffs

  • @nonyodambiz
    @nonyodambiz Před rokem +27

    Honestly, Korn never really lost their riff style. I think if you just made every album the same production as their first album, they would pretty much sound the same.

    • @wallaceshawn-zk8iw
      @wallaceshawn-zk8iw Před rokem +1

      They have to evolve, but also maintain their essence. Which Korn has done very well. There r few exceptions, cough, cough TpoT.

  • @AnimeAjay
    @AnimeAjay Před 3 lety +36

    Both eras here go so hard. Def a tough one.

  • @corbindallas18
    @corbindallas18 Před 3 lety +44

    I was gonna say Self Titled right off the bat most likely for Nostalgia reasons..but after hearing the hole video I might be leaning more twords The Nothing.

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  Před 3 lety +10

      Yeah this might be the first band I've done so far where they didn't really change sound just slightly evolved

    • @wallaceshawn-zk8iw
      @wallaceshawn-zk8iw Před rokem

      @@ThomasHogue They had to follow the Tool & Slayer route.... Evolve just enough to not piss off most of the fans... Lol

  • @denjoy4life
    @denjoy4life Před 3 lety +29

    🙏 i’m a huge KoЯn Fan since 95‘ and you just made an amazing mix of some amazing riffs…great 🤘

  • @DeadPixel1105
    @DeadPixel1105 Před rokem +11

    Korn's later songs are definitely a bit more technical and complex, I've noticed. They've definitely grown a lot as song writers and musicians.

  • @slicknickconcerts
    @slicknickconcerts Před 2 lety +51

    I really think The Nothing is Korn’s best work. I love all of their albums but that one just feels really inspired.

    • @Jubidar
      @Jubidar Před 2 lety +8

      @@ChrisJohnson1988 Untouchables is their Magnum opus, no question about it.

    • @SkyFly102
      @SkyFly102 Před 2 lety +4

      For me their best one, the most revolutionary and unique work, is Life is Peachy

    • @wallaceshawn-zk8iw
      @wallaceshawn-zk8iw Před rokem +2

      Nothing can beat the first album tho. Still kicks ass & influences.

    • @notofthisgod32
      @notofthisgod32 Před 6 měsíci +1

      The first is their best imo. The emotion from Jonathan puts it over the top. You FELT that shit

    • @notofthisgod32
      @notofthisgod32 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@wallaceshawn-zk8iwThe emotion from Jonathan on that album puts it over the top for me. You could really feel what he was putting across

  • @originunknown1685
    @originunknown1685 Před 2 lety +17

    Fantastic job man! As a drummer myself I love seeing you feel the rhythms inside and out.

  • @BadassBrutusGuitar
    @BadassBrutusGuitar Před 3 lety +13

    This is awesome Thomas.... Korn is a great band....
    Fantastic compilation bro!
    Bert

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  Před 3 lety +3

      Thanks much appreciated!

    • @BadassBrutusGuitar
      @BadassBrutusGuitar Před 3 lety +1

      @@ThomasHogue totally my pleasure :) I've added myself to your subscribers list and it would be cool when you'd check out my original, outside the box guitar work too... 😎
      I would like to hear your opinion
      Rock on and have a great weekend Thomas!
      Bert

  • @benajminharris9102
    @benajminharris9102 Před 2 lety +4

    This really shows how Korn has grown so much. Great video man.

  • @Matumaty
    @Matumaty Před 3 lety +5

    Korn is one of my favorite bands, thanks for the video

  • @dotslashsatan
    @dotslashsatan Před 2 lety +5

    The groove on older stuff tho!!

  • @josephdues833
    @josephdues833 Před 2 lety +4

    Love then and now. Good job brother

  • @BMuscle
    @BMuscle Před 2 lety +11

    Head and Munoz are masters at making it sound like way more is going on with the guitars that what’s actually going on. One of my favorite bands and huge inspiration on why I play guitar. Cheers 🥂🍻

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  Před 2 lety +3

      Definitely! Was surprised how simple some of these were when I started learning them compared to what it sounds like

    • @Phatzoot
      @Phatzoot Před 2 lety +2

      Munoz???

    • @BMuscle
      @BMuscle Před 2 lety +1

      @@Phatzoot munky lmao. Auto correct

    • @wallaceshawn-zk8iw
      @wallaceshawn-zk8iw Před rokem +1

      @@ThomasHogue Munky has definitely evolved over the years... He could only do funk solos & now can play Steve Vai like solos...

  • @allosanthrwpos542
    @allosanthrwpos542 Před rokem +1

    Oh I love old and new Korn !
    Life is peachy is my absolute number 1 album but I really love the Nothing , requiem and serenity of suffering too !!

  • @srmitch9260
    @srmitch9260 Před 2 lety +2

    Two of my favourite metal albums of all time 🤘🔥. Great video. Thank you

  • @user-ud6xf9su1j
    @user-ud6xf9su1j Před 2 lety +3

    "H@rder" riff FUCKING SLAPS

  • @warrenfoley4120
    @warrenfoley4120 Před 2 lety +4

    I subscribed just based on this first video from you. You're an amazing performer & musician. Not sure which one is more of a compliment, but its that one.
    Thank you for this video

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  Před 2 lety +2

      You know how to make a man blush! Thanks for the kind words and sub

  • @lukehartley4211
    @lukehartley4211 Před 2 lety +8

    Still can't beat that intro riff to Fake imo, and intro to lies and ball tongue are really sick too. Wish you'd feature the riff fairly early on from Clown too. Think it's pretty dope. But it's the tone and thickness (distortion/down tuning or both) on that opening Fake riff I can't get enough of. Always reminds me of an angry swarm of bees. Also, helmet in the Bush has an awesome riff and is one of thier hidden gems out thier entire catolgue....Like Wake Up and Dirty from issues and Justin, Seed and Dead Bodies from FTL. Also Insane, Cold and Black Is the Soul out thier later stuff. Idiosyncrasy is different for them in a really good way.

  • @brandoncash4384
    @brandoncash4384 Před 3 lety +5

    Bro stop spitting that fire on your videos! You are going to melt my Phone 😂🤟

  • @generaldomino3812
    @generaldomino3812 Před rokem

    Dude, that tone is amazing man!🔥

  • @CrimsonKnightDX
    @CrimsonKnightDX Před 2 lety +101

    Man I love their early stuff, but The Nothing is such a fantastic Album, one of their best, if not THE best they have released yet.

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  Před 2 lety +11

      Agreed, same style but more evolved!

    • @BMuscle
      @BMuscle Před 2 lety +20

      The Nothing is good. I personally really enjoyed The Serenity of Suffering

    • @Kick-The-P.A.
      @Kick-The-P.A. Před 2 lety +5

      @@BMuscle Same. Apparently they're making a new album, "Requiem". Maybe it'll be good. They're single for their new song was alright. Kinda didn't really sound korny enough but it's still pretty good to listen to.

    • @johncenax
      @johncenax Před 2 lety

      @@Kick-The-P.A. did you like forgotten?

    • @Kick-The-P.A.
      @Kick-The-P.A. Před 2 lety +1

      @@johncenax Fuck yeah! At first I thought it was the NFT song but it wasn't. Still got me headbanging throughout the whole song.

  • @NayveeMan
    @NayveeMan Před rokem

    Fun vid man

  • @xebasmarotte7156
    @xebasmarotte7156 Před 2 lety +2

    ✨Great job man✨👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
    I love Korn 🔥 yeeesss

  • @niklasbreuer3071
    @niklasbreuer3071 Před rokem +1

    Korn just grown adult what a nice existence ;)

  • @AnthonyLeeBand
    @AnthonyLeeBand Před 2 lety

    That was great man 🤘

  • @robchapman6567
    @robchapman6567 Před 2 lety +1

    Love the old...grew up with it

  • @wjveryzer7985
    @wjveryzer7985 Před 2 lety +2

    Id LOVE to hear the 1st record remixed with todays stuff

  • @darkslime6424
    @darkslime6424 Před 2 lety

    Great work man!!

  • @trentmiller5072
    @trentmiller5072 Před 7 měsíci

    They are both so talented. They look alike too. 😲

  • @WarriorEsoteric
    @WarriorEsoteric Před 2 lety +1

    This is cool

  • @icemike874
    @icemike874 Před 2 lety +1

    Bass player here, but Love yer Chops so I had to Sub ✌🤘

  • @mattreynierberger7529
    @mattreynierberger7529 Před 3 lety +4

    Once again perfect tone, perfect playing awesome video and heavy riffs !! Well done man ! Btw I just discovered your band Seven Cities Dead and it's sooo good i love it ! You should promote it on your video or at least put a link in the description so people can discover those great songs !

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks, that's awesome to hear! I do want to work in some more Seven Cities Dead references on this channel. I did a playthrough of Courage Under Fire about a month ago

    • @FreakCanal
      @FreakCanal Před 2 lety +1

      Cant agree. They dont play dropped A but standar A. And tone is too compressed. The old sound must be much more loose and raw

  • @user-jg5fb2pq8r
    @user-jg5fb2pq8r Před 2 lety +1

    bro h@rd3r hits SO FUCKING HARD

  • @renukendel8535
    @renukendel8535 Před 2 lety +2

    Thx for this man! Enjoyed the old riffs…in my opinion they only need to stop these poppy synthesizer sounds

  • @Ostaralore
    @Ostaralore Před 3 lety +8

    Well , let me ask you before I give you my uneducated observations from watching you play. Which do you prefer playing? To me, these are all from Munky right? I see a level of simplicity, sophistication, and consistency in the development from one to the other. And goddamn that makes me respect that guitar player just a whole lot more. Thanks Man! Enjoy watching you play! 🙂

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  Před 3 lety +7

      The simplicity definitely stood out to me while learning them. And the style is pretty similar between the two but I think the newer ones are just a little more interesting. It makes you think about how complicated isn't always better!

    • @Ostaralore
      @Ostaralore Před 3 lety

      @@ThomasHogue is it the newer riffs themselves you actually prefer, or is it the accompanying grooves that makes it more fun to swing too? And yes, there’s mastery in simplicity. 🙂

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  Před 3 lety +2

      @@Ostaralore Hard to say! Probably a combination

    • @wallaceshawn-zk8iw
      @wallaceshawn-zk8iw Před rokem

      @@ThomasHogue Yep. Munky loves Vai, but wanted to see heavier & simpler riffs.

  • @johnnyanderson5906
    @johnnyanderson5906 Před 2 lety +1

    Not a fan of Korn but damn do I appreciate good music when I hear it, be it jazz, R&B, rock, Blues ect.

  • @wallaceshawn-zk8iw
    @wallaceshawn-zk8iw Před rokem

    U should update this vid with Requiem. Loved that album, especially Forgotten!

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  Před rokem +1

      I'll have to check out the new album!

    • @wallaceshawn-zk8iw
      @wallaceshawn-zk8iw Před rokem

      @@ThomasHogue Even tho Korn is easy to play, what would be the "hardest" song to play in your opinion?

  • @shaneyboi2231
    @shaneyboi2231 Před 2 lety +2

    There 1st album will always be the best

  • @albrin
    @albrin Před 2 lety

    so accurate and great tone!

  • @user-nx8uf3ef7u
    @user-nx8uf3ef7u Před rokem

    cool

  • @carter.6166
    @carter.6166 Před rokem

    im ngl, issues and life is peachy have some of their best riffs
    for example...
    issues: trash (n between the 1st verse and the hook), beg for me, make me bad, somebody someone, no way, counting
    life is peachy: twist, chi, swallow, good god, mr rogers, adidas (the part after the hook), ass itch

  • @wm1573
    @wm1573 Před 2 lety +1

    Clown and predictable had the most awesome riffs. Missed both of them :S

  • @Jubidar
    @Jubidar Před 2 lety

    Cool.

  • @KhyrisEidan
    @KhyrisEidan Před 2 lety +3

    All of Korn is awesome.

    • @wallaceshawn-zk8iw
      @wallaceshawn-zk8iw Před rokem

      Did you like TPOT?

    • @KhyrisEidan
      @KhyrisEidan Před rokem +1

      @@wallaceshawn-zk8iw I did like "The Path of Totality."

    • @wallaceshawn-zk8iw
      @wallaceshawn-zk8iw Před rokem

      @@KhyrisEidan I liked Jon's vocals & Lyrics, but Munky got drowned out by the DJs so it's my least favorite.... 2 stars

    • @KhyrisEidan
      @KhyrisEidan Před rokem +1

      @@wallaceshawn-zk8iw That's okay, I loved the album. A matter of opinion.

  • @gregoryfilenko6234
    @gregoryfilenko6234 Před rokem

    👍🏻🔥🔥🔥

  • @Tatenak
    @Tatenak Před 3 měsíci

    The closest Ray got to David's style was in Remember Who You Are.
    David was influenced by the drummer for Primus.

  • @velocity9920
    @velocity9920 Před 2 lety +1

    The first album will always be the best album because of how heavy the riffs and how the lyrics are written. It’s also written about johns life, which makes it even deeper.

  • @restoringforce9893
    @restoringforce9893 Před 3 lety +7

    Should have been played on an Ibanez😄

  • @catarusu
    @catarusu Před 2 lety

    Hi! What`s the guitar rig you use?

  • @EldenLord214
    @EldenLord214 Před 2 lety +9

    A Standard, not drop A

    • @munkATR
      @munkATR Před 2 lety

      THIS dude played all songs in drop A. All one finger chords. Wrong on his part.

  • @f.a.b.m.7669
    @f.a.b.m.7669 Před 2 lety +1

    Self-Titled Groove done all the popularity worldwide than this awesome band earned it.

  • @adrianbarajas6319
    @adrianbarajas6319 Před rokem

    Harder is such a great riff holy shit. So hard to hear on the album version for me tho

  • @gbrl433
    @gbrl433 Před 2 lety +2

    the difference is really the drumming

  • @byteresistor
    @byteresistor Před 2 lety +1

    Just FYI, Korn doesn't use drop A tuning.

  • @stephenduggan4429
    @stephenduggan4429 Před 2 lety +1

    Love the first album and most of there work. But this has made me the nothing alot more

  • @Felipe-wj1zr
    @Felipe-wj1zr Před 2 lety

    Issues album, that korn tone was massive.

  • @anseljames5531
    @anseljames5531 Před rokem

    What guitar is that

  • @Gabo__
    @Gabo__ Před rokem

    3-2

  • @hank-scorpio
    @hank-scorpio Před 2 lety +2

    Curious as to why you're playing in drop?

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  Před 2 lety +3

      Just my default, I generally only switch to standard if I need to ha

    • @hank-scorpio
      @hank-scorpio Před 2 lety +1

      Fair enough mate :) nice video too

  • @RectorFilm
    @RectorFilm Před 2 lety +9

    Best example of how they're rifts and technique are timeless and classic and good without the "numetal" connotations.

  • @nvccimvne3744
    @nvccimvne3744 Před 2 lety +5

    Outta respect 4 koRn _ at least be in the same tuning! A Standard not Drop A

  • @JohnRambo-mf2xr
    @JohnRambo-mf2xr Před rokem

    Tuff but I would have to go "The Nothing"
    Love the early hard stuff but idk man the Nothing is just catcher riffs to me, also The Nothing is a masterpiece! Loved every single song on that album, with the earlier albums I loved all of the songs besides for a few.

  • @pa4r1k94
    @pa4r1k94 Před 3 lety +2

    Do one for suicide silence ?

    • @ThomasHogue
      @ThomasHogue  Před 3 lety +2

      That would be cool! I'm adding it to the list

    • @wallaceshawn-zk8iw
      @wallaceshawn-zk8iw Před rokem

      @@ThomasHogue I remember reading JD is on 1 of their songs!

  • @ichalmeong7071
    @ichalmeong7071 Před 2 lety

    You remind me Ken Bedene from Aborted

  • @ikku4321
    @ikku4321 Před 2 lety +1

    Young Korn feels punchy, Present Korn feels like pulling and stretching, if that makes any sense.

  • @nicosilva8724
    @nicosilva8724 Před 2 lety

    Your guitar tone for The Nothing it's actually so much better than the one from the actual album. Those guitars are kinda buried in the mix

    • @zmb5501
      @zmb5501 Před 2 lety +2

      cuz it's really compressed

  • @Norg1
    @Norg1 Před rokem

    the nothing shows the growth in korn alla more moments were korn plays notes lower on the neck lol songs that are not shown here tho

  • @MrGanjie
    @MrGanjie Před 2 lety

    Hearing idiosyncracy it sounds a bit like got the life a bit

  • @vscrl1
    @vscrl1 Před 2 lety

    Cool video, but Korn plays in A standard, not drop lol

  • @austinmoura4592
    @austinmoura4592 Před 2 lety +3

    Only issue i have with the new music is how over processed and compressed it sounds

  • @samiboi6128
    @samiboi6128 Před 2 lety +4

    Sorry to talk drums here. Whilst Ray certainly is an exceptional drummer, I maintain David had a better groove and sound. David’s less is more approach suits the music better. David’s drumming sounds more powerful.

    • @Iamfirebird360
      @Iamfirebird360 Před 2 lety

      This is exactly how I feel. Great drummer but he does not fit in korns slow, heavy groove.

    • @lern2swim
      @lern2swim Před 2 lety +1

      Explain what "groove" means, please.

    • @wallaceshawn-zk8iw
      @wallaceshawn-zk8iw Před rokem

      @@lern2swim When you "feel" the music so to speak.

    • @lern2swim
      @lern2swim Před rokem +1

      @@wallaceshawn-zk8iw that's not any more of an explanation than the word "groove"

    • @wallaceshawn-zk8iw
      @wallaceshawn-zk8iw Před rokem

      @@lern2swim You'll have to come up with your own definition or look it up on Google...

  • @nikitasoloviev6547
    @nikitasoloviev6547 Před 2 lety

    korn never played in drop tune. It was always A standart

    • @munkATR
      @munkATR Před 2 lety +1

      A standard is dropped one whole step down from B, which is standard on 7 strings. So, yes , it is downtuned.

    • @viktorhokes5610
      @viktorhokes5610 Před 2 lety

      @@munkATR yeah and? theyre still playing in standard A. not drop A. for example you cant play blind with drop A.

  • @fender7695
    @fender7695 Před rokem

    Just do the detune down a while step. Drop A Id boring

  • @super_zsmm2413
    @super_zsmm2413 Před 2 lety +1

    Played Shoots and Ladders wrong.

  • @jakubmares2557
    @jakubmares2557 Před 2 lety +1

    Actually this is great idea, but there is one big mistake and that mistake is tuning, because in the first album Korn using standart B tuning and in the last album they are using standart A tuning.
    They not using any drop in that two albums... Please try to remember it and in next similiar video on the same band use standart tuning. ;). Now I have some last words for people who using drop: PLEASE STOP pushing drop in every fucking great bands guys like Sepultura, Soufly, Korn, Crowbar, Pantera (for example new level, or walk). Thank you :-)....

    • @MarioGarcia-vz6gd
      @MarioGarcia-vz6gd Před 2 lety +2

      I’m pretty sure they used standard A tuning in all their albums with the exception of a few songs.

    • @Blaonk_
      @Blaonk_ Před 2 lety +1

      @@MarioGarcia-vz6gd yeah, I think a couple of songs from TALITM were in A# standard instead, maybe I'm misremembering though

    • @wallaceshawn-zk8iw
      @wallaceshawn-zk8iw Před rokem

      @@MarioGarcia-vz6gd Yep

  • @thefallen1383
    @thefallen1383 Před 2 lety

    The Nothing is ok, but I don't like it as much as most people do. I like SoS better. Too melodic... not enough anger.

  • @tomasvgumundsson182
    @tomasvgumundsson182 Před 2 lety +4

    Can’t beat old koRn….wtf happened 🥺

  • @Tatenak
    @Tatenak Před 2 lety +1

    I honestly can't get behind KoЯn using only the single string for their heavy parts. Takes the crunch out of it and is underwhelming. There's been a loss off groovey palm muted riffs at that.

  • @danb5944
    @danb5944 Před 2 lety

    This was no contest every riff of the nothing sounded weak and not memorable yet every riff of the first album was simple yet amazing.. although I have not really liked anything after untouchables

  • @Jt7166
    @Jt7166 Před rokem

    12 songs. 3 guitar frets 😂

  • @trebot9292266
    @trebot9292266 Před 2 lety +1

    did they finally go back to Metal? so tired of the dubstep garbage.

  • @Iamfirebird360
    @Iamfirebird360 Před 2 lety

    Ray is a great drummer but just does not fit with the guitars of korn

  • @lorenzosauro2179
    @lorenzosauro2179 Před 3 lety +1

    I don't like this band

  • @SimpxSlayer-Police
    @SimpxSlayer-Police Před rokem

    Riffs are simple and basic lol

  • @notofthisgod32
    @notofthisgod32 Před 6 měsíci

    To me, the first album is the hardest shit they ever did. Not just the music but the emotion from JD. Their best album imo