I had over 500 kids in my senior class. I was friends with less than 10 of them. Within several years after graduating I would never see or talk to any of them ever again. Just the cycle of life. I'm almost 60.
I’m 53 and had a very similar experience. I haven’t seen or talked to any of them since the mid 90s. The only friend I have from childhood was a kid I met when I was 7. A class of 500 is not small.
These kids were messing around making videos and hanging out. It’s insane they couldn’t see past the few months in front of them. In the grand scheme of life, high school is nothing
I was in high school at the time too. My friends made bombs (thermite bombs even, crazy science nerds), shot guns in the woods, talked about shitty people in school, played Doom and listened to Death Metal, etc. But we didn’t terrorize and murder innocent people either.
I’m almost 40 now and high school just seems like such a blip on the radar. I joined the Navy soon after and then went to college and I barely remember that even lol. If you’re a young man or lady going through a tough time, take a step back and just realize that time period you’re in is such a small window in time.
I know. I barely remember things from over 15-20 years ago. They only had a few weeks until they would never see or be in High school again. If they lived, they would live the rest of their lives to regret it. Such a dumb and horrible mistake they make.
So true. I am in my mid 40's now and was in high school in the 90's. I can barely remember that time now. So many great life events happened after that time and the thought of missing out on those is hard to imagine. Such a horrible tragedy.
@@Ramblingroads True, but please keep in mind that Dylan was suffering from severe, untreated depression, while Eric had a congenital defect which kept him out of the military.
The fact that they initially put memorial crosses for Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold is such an insult. I hope those two monsters aren’t mentioned anywhere on the current memorial
it was the choice of the carpenter who created the crosses, i believe he made them for free and everything. there were people who thought it was a good thing, that it was healing for the community to let go of the hate completely and just grieve. some wrote things like “i forgive you” on their crosses, but there were many who wrote things like “how could we ever forgive you?” on there as well. there were also parents who actually destroyed the crosses, if i remember correctly multiple times. i personally think their crosses should’ve been put further away, i mean if people wanted to grieve those two they would’ve put the work in to walk 5 extra minutes or something. and the victims’ families wouldn’t have had to deal with that sight.
@emptysoul8462 Yeah, I just think it was insulting to put crosses for them alongside their victims crosses. Just my opinion. That never should have been done for them. They were vile
High school was awkward, lonely, infuriating, and depressing for all of us at one point; that's no reason or excuse to go on a murder spree. When I was in 7th grade someone started a horrible rumor about me and my friend that I thought I'd never be able to move past or live down; I had several crushes that ended in heartbreak; I had more humiliating experiences than I could count. But I got through it and Dylan and Eric would have too. Like you said, if they'd just stuck it out until they graduated they probably would never have seen the majority of those people again. Prayers for the victims and their families .
Yeah I had a crush try to physically fight me all because I told someone I thought was my friend that I liked him & she told everyone else. I'd never even spoken to him.... Still never thought to harm a bunch of innocent people. smh Never even wanted to harm HIM.
I think they wanted infamy….they said the one boy was actually friendly and involved, I think Dylan. He had promise, I don’t think he was that sad/depressed or hated the other kids. Also, the kids they killed weren’t even the popular bullies, some were outcasts themselves. They didn’t sympathize….this was about killing as many people as possible for the infamy.
the thing about Columbine that i think gets brushed over a lot is how many times parents, authorities, the school, friends could’ve intervened. survivors have said this before, Brooks Brown for example. both Eric and Dylan had deep issues, they both had low self-esteem, though Eric hid that fact more than Dylan did. They both wanted to die, especially Dylan. Eric was diagnosed posthumously as a psychopath, but there’s multiple instances where it’s pretty clear that Eric had empathy and even remorse to some degree. there were multiple people who liked him, though he had less friends than Dylan did, but still. i honestly think people didn’t pay attention to these guys enough. there were so many signs. i mean Eric’s dad once found one of his pipebombs in their house and all Eric got as punishment was having to go blow it up in the middle of nowhere with him. the feeling i kinda get from this whole case is “well, we didn’t really question our problematic norms and politics and education system but the real monsters were still these two mentally ill teenagers!”. seems a little counterproductive to me. i’m not saying they aren’t to blame, i think they should’ve faced not only actual consequences for their pre-shooting actions but also should’ve received actual help. Eric had a therapist, but if you look the guy up his ratings are really really bad. guns were all over place, they didn’t really struggle to get them. remember that just because you had it hard in highschool and dealt with it eventually without hurting anyone, it’s not like saying that will prevent any more shootings. the people who have that need to blow others and themselves up aren’t gonna stop because you told them to “get over themselves”. it’s pretty clear that these guys had the potential to be normal, maybe even good people. it’s really fucking tragic that this useless culture of ignorance cost the lives of 12 innocent kids, a brave teacher and 2 messed up guys. not to mention all the people injured and/or forever traumatised.
Yes so tragic. I feel bad for those that have to suffer. Just look at overseas and what they're doing. Killing innocent people and there is other countries supporting that
You even see them getting shouldered in the hallways in one video clip. I know what it's like to be bullied...not many really do. You battle thoughts you wouldn't imagine and a need for revenge that normies can't fathom. It's all tragic and people feel like theres no justice you can't get every single person who bullies you so they just snap
But yes they were. They were bullied. They were cast outs. They were the easy targets for bullying. Yeah I was bullied all through to high school everyday and I can understand bullying isn't taking so seriously back in the day but it should be more today than ever
@@leilanisunsets1362 they were not bullied that's a myth being teased doesn't mean bullying they were bullies and troublemakers themselves also racist also non of their victims were bullies so this is just a massive myth
I remember where I was when I first heard about the Columbine shooting. It was the 10th grade and I was drawing a scene from the first Matrix film out of a magazine I just purchased. a teacher happen to walk past my desk and thought I was glorifying the shooters. After trying to explain to her at nauseam that this was just a scene from an upcoming film, she wouldn't hear any of it. She brought it to the principal and after a quick conversation I was able to return to class. In hindsight I probably should have put my drawing away, but in those days I was really insulated in my bubble.
This is such a crazy comment you've written here, and I'm glad you did. I'm always interested in what things might have influenced shooters, and The Matrix was released in the U.S. in March right before the Columbine tragedy. But it seemed like they came up with this "Trenchcoat Mafia" idea well before the movie came out.
The 2007 shooting was at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, not University of Virginia. They’re about 3hrs away from one another. There is also a girl named Regina Rohde who survived Columbine as a Freshman and then survived Virginia Tech years later.
Yeah you're right. My bad. When I'm rambling for 45 minutes I def can get a few details a bit off. Ironically I've actually driven thru there 20 years ago when I hiked the Appalachian trail.
No worries, it’s an excellent video. Thank you for taking time to create this. I only mentioned it bc I live here about 4 blocks from Norris Hall at VT.
@@Josiris218 Thanks. Nice, that's a cool area. My best friend has property in Floyd Virginia not super far from there and I go there all the time and will probably live in a trailer there someday so I'll def get reacquainted with the area for sure lol.
@@Ramblingroads my Father lives in Riner, right outside of Floyd. Next time you’re there, check out El Charro Mexican and Bootleg BBQ. Also, theres a little place a few miles outside of there called The Bread Basket, they have some great things there as well. Cheers!
@@Ramblingroads My father lives in Riner, just outside of Floyd. You should check out El Charro Mexican & Bootleg BBQ next time you’re in that area. Good people & great food. Or make the trip over to Blacksburg and check out the area. Dirty Dancing was filmed about 20min from here at Mountain Lake, and the resort is still the same as it was along with the cabins on the property. Well worth checking out.
These two guy’s were cold blooded & evil. Bullying is NO right of passage for anyone to have to deal with, we can understand their struggles but most condemn their actions. They knew they weren’t gonna live through this, this was a suicide pact. So my sympathies are for the lives lost & the families. In general any movie, documentary about mass killers or a killer must come with a disclaimer. Pointing out these ppl should not be idealized for their crimes but are called out for who they really are? MURDERS!
I agree. These 2 extremely vile, wicked and disgusting monsters had destroyed many lives on that tragic day. 🤢🤢🤮🤮☹️☹️❗️❗️🚨🚨 The 13 innocent people were robbed and violated of their hopes and dreams. ✝️✝️😞😞😨😨🥺🥺💐💐🙏🏽🙏🏽🕊️🕊️
You've never been bullied or see it happen to your children, sibling? Bullying kills people slowly slower than getting shot but both kill a kid. But these two had some friends, plans to go to college so they had more than the average Joe. Family had money too.
Crazy how calling these kids monsters is the only view to have. Forced to have this view and forget the kids who die from suicide from the same bullies complained about here.
@@JaquelineGoodspeed with all due respect mama, I may not have had a child bullied ? But I myself have been on the end of being bullied. Youth suicide is as tragic to the world than any war or disease. A life taken due to pain & loneliness breaks the hearts of all. We can agree that bullying is wrong, but we must also call a person what they are when they take a life? Their murders that killed & took their own lives to avoid being held accountable. The key to healing a society is to recognize its ills & address them rationally. My prayers go out to the families of the victims & even a little bit to the families of the two murderers . God only knows how their sins have caused them. Available youth services ? Must be found & put in place. Parents must take a a more active roll in there children’s lives at home & school. Involvement is important if we are to save are children from making a dreadful decision.
There’s a CZcamsr I think CVA archives. He talks a lot about the this massacre. What he mentions in many of his videos is that these kids were not even bullied like the media portrayed them. They ran with their own group. Even Dylan went to his prom just to shoot up columbine days later. How many schools across America has hazing? Almost all of them. He goes in to talk about how these kids were actually depressed and manic. Dylan was suffering with major depression and Eric was a hot head psychopath. They hated everyone and everything. People already knew about them. Eric was in trouble with the law. He hated law enforcement. How come their basement video was never shown to the world only to families of those involved. A lot of those who watched their last video even said how much hatred they had for everyone. They wanted to cause as much destruction and destroy the one thing they hated the school and everything that came with it.
It’s not true that they weren’t bullied and it’s incredibly easy to fact check that. Not that them being bullied excuses anything it’s just misinformation to say that they weren’t bullied
@@spikejonzelover420 Greetings. Hi. Yes. Eric, Dylan and an another friend were tracked out after having somehow hacked into locker combination system and put a threatening note in that person’s locker. ☹️☹️😨😨 There is no denying that these 2 monsters were indeed dangerous. 😱😱❗️❗️🚨🚨
@@spikejonzelover420 Yeah. I agree. Eric and Dylan and another friend were allegedly accused of hacking into the computer locker combination system that shows other students’ combination numbers and placing a threatening note on whoever who owned that locker. 😨😨❗️❗️
@@Ramblingroads are you making an episode on it in the future? That’s one a lot of people don’t know about and don’t talk about that much. Great episode, i subscribed. 👍✌️
@@WillyWoahDj I might, but since I'm in Colorado, I'll probably cover more of the stories and dark history here first. It seems like people are liking the approach of actually going to the scene of the incidents and since that's in Cali, I won't be there soon, but I'm sure there's plenty of other interesting stories in Colorado I'll cover. I have some Peru videos still but I'll make some other cool dark cases soon.
4:30 yeah, honestly this sentiment is very true. My highschool years were hell. Without going into long detail, I was bullied and hated by students and some staff. I was also bullied relentlessly at home. I was starved, I was excluded and talked about like I was a walking plague (I was a lesbian and this was the very early 00s). I also ended up having a huge mental breakdown, due to all of this as well as childhood trauma, and I basically spent a whole year blacking out constantly. I didn't even graduate. In 11th grade I was pulled from school and only went to after school sessions with the math teacher, and when that also failed because I was a freaking zombie, I then dropped out entirely. A few years later when I woke back up I got my GED. It's now been nearly 20 years and while it was awful, it's far in the past and I don't give it all much thought at all. It's just a part of my life that's over and done. In the moment it can certainly feel like forever, or like it'll never get better, but it will. All these two guys had to do was keep going one more year, or even just drop out like I did. Then they could be where I am, looking back and feeling a sense of peace that those days are over. But instead they stole their own futures, the futures of their victims and the victims' families.
As far as the antidepressants are concerned, Harris did have Luvox in his bloodstream at the time of the shooting, but Klebold didn't. Harris taking Luvox to treat depression was the reason why he was turned down from the marines, but I don't think he was ever aware of the rejection before April 20.
Yes, your right. It was Luvox. I thought Paxil, but was wrong. But I've taken some of that stuff over the years and it def puts you in a weird state and I generally don't think they are good.
So dangerous with antideppressants and adhd medications given to kids and young adults. Brain altering them before theyr brains are «grown up». Insted of just having other kinds of schools. More exercise. Better foods. Learning a skill. Wonder after 2020 how many more kids on pharmaceutical drugs. So sad. How many kids got problems during the insanity the last years. They will probably trigger this school shootings so they can homeschool a lot of kids. Just think how mutch they saved to give people online school. In Norway we have not shool shootings - BUT the military are when kids are at school - «practice» schoolshootings, bombings and knife stabbing. In front of kids. With play blood. Trauma bond mindcontrol IMO. It is so crazy that if I would tell you more. You probably would not have belived me. So this is not today as it looks like. It is beeing triggered. IMO. With the cybernetic token economy. Where a lot of children will just play video games and have online school. Building theyr identical twin. How many more will be medicated. How many more bombs, shootings and knife stabbings. Everyone must probably for our own safety scan out face and iris at every corner. Problem - reaction - solution. I do not say all school shootings is problem reaction solution BUT - IMO they want to close schools in the new token economy. The cybernetic direct democraty. What was digitalized during the lockdowns and then had other solutions. Will have those solutions in the future. And problems like schoolshootings - better scare parents to home school theyr kids. Sorry bad written english. A bit late here - but wanted to comment.
I lived in Colorado for about 8 years and lived not too far from Columbine H.S and Deer Creek Canyon park. I hiked so many of those trails and there is a huge Lockheed Martin facility in the foothills. I can honestly say as beautiful as Colorado is there are a lot of weird, deranged, crazy folks in that state. I don’t know if it’s the high altitude or the fact the state is so isolated in the middle of the country. A lot of crimes and massacres have been committed in CO. Many crimes have till this day have not been solved. The place is so damn remote with open mountains where criminals commit crimes and get away with it. I am just glad I am back home in the east coast, not saying it’s perfect but CO is in its league of its own for crazies. I forgot to mention the drug and homeless problems too in CO is a HUGE problem.
I live in Pueblo, Colorado, and I completely agree with this statement. It seems that more crazy shit has happened here than other places… And I do think the remote locations here and those small mountain towns with nothing to do is definitely a factor to the madness. I will say though as a native of Colorado, the north half of Colorado is completely juxtaposed to the south half of Colorado. I have found that I do not like the north half of Colorado or the people that live up there, but the south half of Colorado is wonderful. Lots of culture and lots of people who actually enjoy our state and what it has to offer.
That's anywhere that's remote. I live in California, and there are cartel operations happening in the low and high desert. And who knows how many bodies are buried in Nevada
I lived in Longmont, CO. Those clear blue skies are beautiful! I got picked on, bullied too, in elementary school, 4th to 6th grade, when I was a scrawny dork. Then I hit puberty, bulked up a bit and the bullying stopped. How I handled bullying was, while getting into a few fistfights, I retreated into the fantasy world of comic book superheroes, even drew some of my own, and then got into moviemaking. My movies proved a great way to make friends, because other kids wanted to be IN my movies. Thank God this activity proved to be a constructive outlet for my rage and passion! While I wanted to INJURE, SUBDUE my tormentors, even then I knew the spiritual blackness that would ensue from KILLING them. These guys obviously crossed that line.
My oldest niece was in kindergarten when Columbine happened - when my brother moved to Littleton, Columbine was her feeder. She ended up being in Mr. D’Angellis’ final graduating class :: a promise he made to the children/families who had just entered the school district was that he’d stay as principal until they kindergartners on April 20, 1999 graduated. It was an honor to sit in on Mr. D’s final commencement. We are Columbine! 🫶🏼
I recruit for the Army and can 100% confirm that NO branch gives their recruiters a bonus for putting someone in. It’s our job and we get paid the same every month if we put 0 in or 3 in.
Being a recruiter nowadays, especially under the Biden administration has to be impossible! I’m former Military and tell many young people don’t do it. Let the Politicians fight these stupid Wars.
You might get paid the same (the military pay scale is universal) but don't pretend like you don't have target demographics and don't get some kind of benefit for hitting numbers in certain areas. Recruiters had target demographics in the 90s when I was in the Army, and they damn sure have them now with how woke the military has become. I'd bet my disability check that you are "encouraged" to favor some demographics over others, or be more lenient on qualifications for "oppressed" groups. Don't bullshit a bullshitter, champ. I know what goes on in the military. I spent 10 years learning the politics. All bonuses aren't financial, and military recruiting is far from a pure meritocracy.
This is one of the most entertaining true crime/vlog video that I’ve ever watched. I love how it feels like we’re going on a very dark exploration together. I subbed you! 😊
It’s a misnomer, they were not unpopular, they were not picked on mercilessly, they weren’t poor, they weren’t abused. Just misguided and tortured in their own minds.
I was just a few years out of high school when the McDonalds shooting happened. It was 1984 near San Diego. The guy killed close to 20 and injured as many, before a sniper took him out. The postal shooting was a couple of years later. That guy killed 14 and injured 6 before taking his own life. Those things were not heard of back then and yes, that’s where the term “going postal” originated. That was the year I got married. He could have saved me a lot of trouble. Not seriously. But those two got the ball rolling. The one in 79 was a kid who was obviously mental but she shot several, killing 2, because she hated Mondays.
Yes, I think you're right. A few things were part of sensationalism. Like they said one of the guys asked a Rachel Joy Scott if she believed in God and she said yes and they shot her. That might have been another girl or not happened too. I'm not sure on some of the details but tried to give a general perspective. Sorry if some details are a bit off. Just don't have enough time. Cheers.
@Ramblingroads For some clarification on that confusing story which yes has been so sensationalized; that was Val Schnurr. She was shot and screamed "Oh my God! Help me!" (Heard on the 911 video) and then she was asked "Do you believe in God?" She said "Yes" then she was asked "Why?" "Because my family does" then she crawled back under the table as if she was dying. They didn't shoot her after asking, she was already shot. Craig Scott misheard who it was said to and thought it was victim Cassie Bernall. Even though the only witness to Cassie's death (she was right under the table with her and watched) said this did not happen; Cassie's family stuck with it as it gave them comfort. And of course the media sensationalized it as if she were a martyr. Craig later apologized to Val and has now accepted this did not happen the way he thought. Rachel Scott that came from Richard Castaldo. He did wake up from a coma and initially say Rachel was taunted for her religion; however when he had more time to process what happened he later recanted. The Scott family story of what happened to her (saying Eric pulled her by the hair, asked her, and shot her point blank in the head) per the autopsy report is not possible. She was shot quickly in several areas from a distance. She probably didn't event know what happened. But they stuck to it as it gave them some comfort, which I won't judge them on as I can't imagine the pain they've had.
@@amitycamp I'll have to check out that film but I'm not surprised if there is a ton of misinformation out there. There are thousands of pages of documents so its hard to sift thru everything.
At first i thought another video of another guy telling me about Columbine and what happened...but this was one was different, i really like it. One oft the best i saw, great work.
Another sad shooting in Colorado was the Aurora Theater shooting, saw the makeshift memorial just days after the shooting and when Christian Bale visited…used to live right by there and always went to the Century 16 for the movies as the Aurora Mall was right across from it
I watched the U2 live at Red Rocks concert once and couldnt help but notice all those kids in the crowd were just in the process of creating the kids affected at Columbine on that day
I think because Sue Klebold is so vocal and none of the other parents are, she gets to spin the story in her son’s favor whereas Eric’s parents are not. But don’t get it confused, BOTH boys had severe mental illness, and sadistic ideology. In fact, the massacre, or “NBK” as they called it was DYLAN’S idea, he brought it up first.
I worked in a school for 30 years as the head secretary. I took that job mostly so I’d have summers off and Christmas breaks with my kids. I never guessed it would be a stressful job - until Laurie Dann opened fire in a school down the block from the school I was working at (Illinois). After that - all doors were locked. We didn’t have a buzzer system to let people in - or cameras - or security personnel. I - was pretty much - it. If someone knocked on the door and wanted to be let in - I went to the door - with a knife - and spoke to them through the glass. I never let anyone in I didn’t personally know - but - even that wasn’t a fool proof way to protect the kids in that building. I left that school and started working at a different school in a different neighborhood. We had locked doors there, and a buzzer system to let people in. But - how do you know if the person at the door - even if it’s a parent you recognize - is actually safe and not in the midst of a psychotic break? You don’t. Those kids were important to me. Keeping that building safe - was my first priority - but - I was limited. All there was between the outside and the inside - was a stupid door bell. I was at my desk when I heard the news reports on the radio that was on my desk that a school shooting at Columbine was in progresss. Columbine was in Colorado - my school was in Illinois - but - it affected me - and all of us - as if it had happened across the street. Back then - we all thought Columbine would be the ‘last’ school shooting. We all thought there would be more and better safety procedures established in all schools and we thought more would be done to recognize students that had the potential to cause harm. That didn’t happen. Anywhere. I'm retired now, but as I write this - it's August - and the new school year for thousands of schools across the nation is beginning. How long will it be - before new reports - of new school shootings - start making their way into the news? It’s 2024 as I write this - and since Columbine - there have been 413 more school shootings. Something is terribly wrong with this picture. RIP all victims of school shootings - and my deepest condolences to all those survivors and families still suffering.
This was one of the best Columbine videos I’ve ever watched. Thank you so much for taking the time to do this on the 25th anniversary of the tragedy. Only thing that I noticed is that you said they counted down from three and committed suicide at the same time. Which is not correct- forensics found pieces of Eric’s brain matter underneath of a pipe bomb that Dylan had placed assumedly right before he had ended his life. They found blood in Dylan’s lungs which means he did not die instantly and likely choked on his blood before dying a few minutes later. Thank you again! New subscriber here!
Thanks. I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Yes, I think I was wrong about that. They died at different times. I'll post the Suzanne Morphew story in a couple hours. That's an interesting one.
I live about 5 minutes from the site of the McDonald’s shooting here in San Diego. It’s in the border town of San Ysidro, part of SD county. I remember growing up and hearing the stories of it and even up to this day at 29, I can’t help to imagine how horrible the event was every time I pass by. It’s no longer a McDonald’s, it’s a satellite campus for the local Community College. There’s a memorial there tho. Back when it happened, my parents were young and about to marry but they crossed the border a lot and said that McDonald’s was frequented by a lot of people just trying to find a better life through hard work. My mom even said she couldn’t imagine how life would have been if she decided to go in and eat there, something she seldomly did.
My Dad had taken me and my brother to that Mc Donald’s that day, about an hour before the shootings. We were coming back from TJ and he had to feed me and my brother so he stopped in and got stuff to go. He heard about the shooting later that day. I was a itty bitty at the time with no recollection of that day at all but my dad would talk about it when it was mentioned on the news on the anniversaries and what not. I still live in SD and it does give me a weird feeling thinking about it when I pass by the area. I feel awkward saying I have feeling of sorrow and yet gratitude that we were not there when it happened. I’ve seen the unedited video of the scene and seeing the baby lifeless on the floor hits in so many feels.
I watched a documentary on this and you could see on their faces all these years later that they really haven't fully recovered from this. It was in their eyes. Very eery.
I remember this day vividly i was in 10th grade then. What terrified me the most was the killers where our age as well as the victims. I remember at the very beginning of June someone who only identified themselves as a senior in our school, threatened to kill everyone on the last day of school. It even made the announcements where our principal assured us we where safe. There was a senior who always wore trenchcoats and had a scary temper. He threatened to kill a kid in the past. He was frequently builled as well. He was suspected and everyone just kept a closer eye on him. Rumors where everywhere. Turns out the person who made the threat was not him at all but another senior that spread that fake message as a sick senior "prank". I heard he lost his diploma and was kicked permanently out of of school as a result. The next year we got off to a "great start" as on day 1 we hear that a bomb was put under the school in a pipe. Turns out that was fake too. Thats when it occurred to me school will never be "normal" as it had been for the past 12 years for me. The rest of that year went by without incident
Wow, sorry to hear that. I imagine most of America went thru things like this. So horrible that Dylan and Eric increased this madness. I'm glad you and everyone at least were not hurt. No doubt hs is a super hard time for people. I wish they all knew its not important for most of their lives.
@@Ramblingroads that's truth we put so much effort into being cool but ultimately it doesn't matter as we enter our own worlds. I'm considering home schooling my son as it's just so bad now. Before that day you heard about the occasional fights here and there. Sometimes a student was shot or stabbed by very far and few between and then usually between 2 kids. But these two where killing everyone in sight. School didn't feel the same those last 2 years I was there
I am 41 now. I was a junior when this happened at a small high school in Long Island, NY. We were horrified and there as a noticeable police presence around the school the day after. My school, like Columbine, wasn't known for many violent incidents. A group of three students, however, thought they could be funny by walking into the school wearing black trench coats. Few of us even noticed or thought it was out of the ordinary. Their first period teacher, however, immediately saw it and told them to take the coats off. One of them responded "No I want to keep it on. Don't worry about it. No big deal." The teacher, clearly annoyed, casually went out to the hallway monitor and told her to alert the vice principal (who was also the dean of students, and as an ex-Marine, he took no BS from anyone). The three students were suspended for 30 days and were given 30 more days of detention, as well as a stern talking-to by both the dean and police officers. They never did anything stupid again, and one of them went on to be an accomplished lawyer. It's a shame that I don't have a lot of good memories from the mid to late 90's unless I'm watching a show about that decade. All I remember without that is the bad stuff.
How in general, living in such a beautiful place, with such a nature, would you want to kill someone? As a child, I couldn't even dream of a tenth of what these two had!...
Thinking bullies obsessed with guns, going into the military as the best thing is bizarre. As we often know, bullies with unchecked rage often become the worst kinds of cops or military personnel because now they have the training and authority. Shocked by the naïveté by this guy recommending it.
This is a great video! I had no idea Eric’s nose was broken. I’ve researched a lot on Columbine. I was in high school in North Carolina on the coast when it happened, and it even affected us and caused panic at our school.
Glad you enjoyed it. I was in NC when Columbine happened too, but at Fort Bragg. I used to go to Wilmington most weekends around that time. I was just one year out of high school so I'm not sure how my school reacted but I think people on base were probably pretty concerned something like that could happen on the base. There was a shooting on base in 95 where William Kreutzer Jr killed an officer and wounded 18 others so its def possible anywhere.
Those red rocks are called The Flat Irons. And they have a connection to another Colorado case. The JonBenét Ramsey house also sits off The Flat Irons in Bolder Colorado.
Actually they look similar but the red rocks in video are west of Littleton and the flatirons are up next to Boulder about an hour away but same type of rock formation. Red rocks concert venue is between both places. I'll probably do a video on JonBenet Ramsey too. Crazy story.
Very interesting video! I certainly don't see a lot where somebody goes to multiple areas where significant events took place. I hope they get the funds needed to keep the memorial in good repair.
Thanks. I got the idea to go to the location from another channel "Infamous Crime Locations." Seemed like the concept does well and I'm in Denver anyway so I didn't have to travel far. I'm sure the memorial will always be in good repair. That's one thing that won't be ignored.
@Ramblingroads I certainly hope so! They just asked for some donations this year saying it's in need of repairs. Good news is right now there's plenty of people willing to raise money for it!
this book has actually been debunked by many people who were involved with columbine themselves, this guy pulled a bunch of stuff out of his ass. The two boys were not bullied. And he makes it out that they were completely bullied and just shot up the school because of that. He also tries to say that Dylan was just a follower of Eric, when in reality both of those boys were very messed up in the head and obviously needed a lot of therapy.
Thanks. That was my drone footage. I have a mavic mini 3 pro I use. Lost my first one on Mt Elbert last year so I got this one. A little pricey but nice.
Sad thing is they all only had a few weeks to go and would have never had to deal with highschool again and moved on with their lives. This so could have been prevented
I know. Its not like they would see 95% of those people again if ever. High school is a tiny part of our whole lives and not even that important. I'm sure they would regret it if giving the chance.
Dylan *was* shy and bullied but he was also a bully himself. He used to bully girls in gym and a special needs student named Adam for instance. Oh, also, his Dad lives in the house still. The parents split after the shooting. I feel terrible for them.
@@thepennsylvanian9280 Of Dylan being a Bully or Tom Klebold still owning the house? The later answer is Mrs Klebolds book (I do recommend that) and real estate sales etc. he keeps a low profile. Not comfortable with attention as Sue has grown to be able to do. Him being a bully at times has quite a few references in the 11k. It’s searchable though. A disabled students mother (Adam Kyler) wanted him removed from Columbine due to the hell Dylan and some others gave him often. He’d do cruel things like write gay slurs on his locker. In a sad irony he would kill a mentally disabled student in the library. Sue used to work with disabled kids. Makes you wonder if he felt a grudge. He would also get physically aggressive with girls in gym. Push them over with force. Dylan was very tall. He was the ultimate Bullied who became the Bully.
@@thepennsylvanian9280 No problem! All her percentage of proceeds from it go to brain health charities. It’s biased at times but it made me feel a lot of empathy for her.
The sad thing about it to me remains that Dylan could have went off to a good college and probably very successful by now and never even thought about the jocks again in his life. And Eric would be about retirement age now had he joined the Marine Corps. And everyone who was killed…what they were robbed out of. A real shame.
I was a sophomore in HS then. Wasn't popular, was bullied, had depression and anxiety, not a great home life; it never crossed my mind to harm the bullies or the dumb teachers that targeted me. I graduated, went to college and grew stronger from all those lessons. I'm 40 now, almost have my PhD and am a protector of the bullied. HS isn't the best but it's a part of life and most move on; why not wait till graduation and move on to other things? Such a waste. I remember watching a documentary where it said that Dylan and Eric were the Perfect Storm; had they never met each other, this never would have happened. Eric was the psychopath and Dylan the depressive follower whom Eric validated.
I know both parents of the boys are so very upset about what happened that day as well! My heart truly goes out to them too! REAL TALK FOR LIFE! 42 yr old who loves jb
What helped me make it through high school was my Father telling me “Two months after you graduate from HS you will never see or have to deal with any of those people again! If you’re lucky you’ll make one or two lifelong friends from high school.” And he was telling the truth! After you graduate nothing that happened there ever matters again!
Idk how old you were but that statement of not seeing them again isn’t necessarily true anymore thanks to social media. Back when this happened it was more probable
@@sickofguysnamedtodd2293 social media is not real life! And I’m a millennial!! We was the first real wave of all that! 😂 baby I was on MySpace for Gods sake! You can’t tell me nothing about this. But thank u.
I was at the Springfield mall when Sylvia Seegrist when on her shooting spree. We walked right by her. We thought her guns were fake because it was around Halloween.
I was bullied in high school most of the time. I’m 32 now and looking back it was such a small sliver of time. I agree with you, one month later and they would’ve moved on. Don’t get me wrong, it did take me a while to move on what I went through for years after. However, I’m healing and reflecting on that time now. Killing is never the answer. I never got the life I wanted either but never considered going on a rampage like them. I hope those affected by this shooting and the recent ones like Uvalde are doing okay and RIP to all the victims in these horrific tragedies
There have been around 15,000 mass shootings, over 100 school shootings, and over TWO MILLION non-mass shootings in America since Columbine. The 2023 Dadeville mass shooting had 36 gunshot victims (Columbine had 34), and almost all the victims were teens under 18, just like Columbine. Yet people are still obsessed with a shooting from 1999, and almost nobody even heard about Dadeville, or any of the 180 mass shootings so far this year, or the 604 mass shootings in 2023, or the 695 mass shootings in 2022, or the 698 mass shootings in 2021, or the 615 mass shootings in 2020, and so on. So the real question is why we cherry-pick a handful of shootings to talk about and remember forever and completely ignore 99.99% of them. Why we get hundreds of videos like this obsessing over a shooting from 1999 with no mention of the TWELVE mass shootings so far in May 2024 (it's May 5th today). This guy is still talking about the Charles Whitman shooting in 1966. See what I mean? So what's the pattern here? Why do some shootings matter and others don't? Why do some victims matter and others don't? Why does Columbine matter but Dadeville doesn't? I know the pattern. Does anyone else know the pattern? This guy knows the pattern, but he'll never admit it.
I hear ya. Its all pretty weird but most of it is about interest in the story itself. I'm doing a video soon about JonBenet Ramsey. I never realized it was such an interesting story in general because of the long random ransom note, but the fact she was a beauty queen, rich, young etc is a story. I think Columbine was big because it was one of the first and it wasn't one person but 2 which is weird. One of them could have stopped the other. They were from decent background etc. How many other shootings were 2 people at a school? Most are solo right? People are burned out and have fatigue from these stories so there is no novelty as much as before. Its become normalized. Sadly no one honestly cares a ton about random victims they have never met, they care about the story and the mysteries behind it. What pattern are you thinking?
Hi. I really enjoyed your upload, fella. I remember this awful event, I was at high school here in the UK and still to this day can not get my head around it. You're a great narrator. You have a new subscriber 😊.
I lived in Littleton and i honestly i walk passed this memorial, i am a nature photographer. I was so disappointed, the fact is as you called them as idiots, Dylan and Eric used to talk to my late sister. She was mad at them too. We were so surprised that this happened at all. People don't get Jeffco, they never talk about the bullying, Dylan and Eric may have never been bullied, but my sister was transferred to Columbine in Spring of 1998, a year before, the weird part was Brooks came to my sister as a friend.
I wonder why your late sister was only mad at Eric and Dylan. According to the 11k reports, many students stated "redacted" shot at the students, not Eric and Dylan. I wonder if there really were more than two shooters.
I was in elementary school down the road. We were on the soccer field at recess when the teachers ran out and make us go inside. They told us “there was a fire at Columbine.” Then our parents came to get us and we didn’t have school for at least a week. Sad that we continue to see mass murder like this in our schools in the years since Columbine.
Don't forget the first school shooting that took place in 1979 in San Diego, California. The killer, Brenda Ann Spencer, 16 years old, shot into the school yard just across the street from her home and killed 2 and wounded 9. Asked why she did, she replied, " I don't like Mondays." Bob Geldoff then wrote the hit song "i don't like Mondays" based on the shooting.
No one was at fault for what they did but them. They were immature misfits with anger issues who decided to do something evil. Forget them, and remember the victims.
Theres a lifetime movie called dawn anna. It shows the life of a single mom of 4 teenagers who gets and recovers from cancer. When their life finally seems to start coming back together the family finds out there is an active shooter/s at the youngest childs school and unfortunately she was one of their victims (Lauren Townsend)
You know I get it, anger is one thing but willing to cause a school. Massacre like Columbine is just wrong. There's other ways to deal with anger. They are much healthier and better.❤ My heart goes to all of those people who were lost during Columbine.❤ Rest in peace all of you. May your memories not be forgotten.❤
I was in shock when heard about the shooting, I was a Junior in highschool I admire Rachel Scott and Cassie bernal because they were not afraid to to talk about there christain faith
I’m so shocked that there are some people from my generation that don’t even know this happened. One of the first school shootings ever, that could’ve been easily avoided. Most of America’s tragedies were easily avoidable. My heart goes out to the families of the victims…
Growing up in Littleton I grew up with teachers, church leaders, and friends having survived or had lost family to this. It’s disgusting that people fetishize them.
They ended up stopping after starting taking shots at the LEO's arriving on scene. You could hear them actually say "Really? Is that how you wanna go? Not like that" then they say for a second and then went over to in front if the book cases where they took their own lives. You USED to be able to watch the surveillance tapes on here with audio. It was insane!
This is a sad case for everyone involved, but nothing happens in a vacuum. Every action has a reaction, and cumulative actions lead to a breaking point for better or worse. It's like the flutter of butterfly wings, which cause an earthquake halfway around the world. We are all connected in some way. The quicker we learn this, the better off we will be.
Hey! I'm new here and I love this channel! But I live in Virginia and it was Virginia Tech that was shot up. I REFUSE to say the shooters name but I live 30 mins from Tech. I vividly remember when it happened. Just wanna give respect to the ones who were lost 😢 thank you for what you do! I'm really enjoying your content! Keep it up man!!!
Awesome! Thanks:) Yes, that was crazy in Virginia Tech. I was thru Blacksburg when I hiked the Appalachian trail. My best friend has property in Floyd, Virginia so I'm in the mtns there all the time. I'll have some videos you might appreciate coming up on Chris Watts, James Holmes and Bundy among others. Cheers!
I'll never forget this day and all those affected. May they all be at rest. They had their whole lives ahead of them and so many others injured and affected by this travesty. Dave Sanders as well for his heroics and losing his life too short also. I knew 25 years was coming. It's still very sad to even try to think about it. I was 17 then and these young students and teacher I still grieve for. 🙏 🙏
I am so glad that I came across your channel! You have a new subscriber! I have been binge watching your videos! Love the way you tell these stories! 💛💛💛💛💛💛💛
Thank you SO much. I really need this after getting bashed on reddit the last 24 hours. I put so much work into this so its nice when people are appreciative like you. Cheers from Colorado.
25 years and I can still remember where I was and how I felt that day. After that, I felt terror about being in school and just wanted to graduate the next month.
Say her name Rachel joy scott . We almost had a school shooting a kid I knew he was kinda odd but so were we 🤍 everytime I saw him I gave him the biggest hug ever asked him if he got any new Pokemon cards. I’d his weekend went welll and we should hang out soon .. I meant it every word . A few weeks later me and my best friend were on MySpace we saw a hit list. I knew everyone on that list. We told our parents they didn’t listen to us.. principal didn’t care not until her perfect sons told her . The morning that it was going to happen we searched high and low to tell him don’t throw your life away. We didn’t cache up with him but he was bullied heavily.
Hello Jeremy 😇 My Step-dad, Teacher and Coach Dave Sanders was murdered at Columbine High school 🚸 along with 12 students!! ❤ 💯 The Columbine is the Colorado State flower and illegal to pick!! ✌ #davesandersstepdaughter
Eric and Dylan did not "kill the majority of the people in the library." At least 30 escaped when they left to go back down to the cafeteria. They killed 10 in the library and in total there may have been at least 50 in the library when the shooting began. They did injure quite a few too. At any rate, these two were only 3 weeks away from graduation. All they had to do was stick it out three more weeks and they chose this. Just horrific.
I meant the most people who were killed happened to be in the library. There were def more people outside of there. But no doubt super sad they wasted their life just a few short weeks of graduation.
The most frustrating part is that they could’ve graduated and left that school behind. Graduation was literally around the corner but they couldn’t wait and committed that tragedy.
I know. They assumed their whole lives would be like high school, but its not. Sure, life has its ups and downs but I'm sure things would eventually get better for them.
From what I have read, Eric fucked around with his medication by not taking it regularly. With that being said though, I personally know of people who have been on antidepressants that were very fucked up by them.
@@laurenmacneill1617 How do you explain Dylan? He wasn't on any meds......And the small dose Eric was on had nothing to do with the plans to blow up the school and kill
Bullying wasnt really the reason they did it. I dont even think they were bullied that much. They pretty much just had a hatred of the mundane parts of life like going to school etc. Plus their love for the game doom that they wanted to act out in real life.
Columbine is a scary word.i don’t know why but i guess because it happened when i was in elementary school so my whole life has been nothing but horror attached to it
I was leaving Kings Soopers near Coal Mine when this happened... I think everyone at the time that someone from outside the school was harassing students ... the concept of school shooting was not even concept. Not a time I drive by that I don't reflect back on that April morning.
I was Bullied my entire life because I have muscular dystrophy and couldn’t move as fast as the other kids could and never once pulled a gun on someone you have to be better than the bullies
Dylan’s Parents didn’t live out there his whole life. They bought that house when the kids were still fairly young though when fixed it up. It was in poor condition when they purchased it. Dylan’s mom is Jewish.
Just a heads up. I’m not sure if anyone mentioned it but when you were going over the history of other shootings, you said it was the University of Virginia that had the shooting. That’s incorrect. It was Virginia Teach where the Korean student carried out the shooting. A totally different school hours away from UVA.
Yes, my bad. When I'm walking and talking I make some mistakes. I knew it was the one in Blacksburg because I had stopped there when I hiked the Appalachian trail but I mistaken the name.
If only they made Byrna backpack armor during that time, there would not be that much casualties because the backpack armor would of protected the students from pistol rounds and shotgun rounds.
You're talking about high school in the intro like it doesn't matter, but it definitely does. Now as a disclaimer, I'm not justifying anyone doing anything violent. Anyone who commits an atrocity like this is a monster. I remember a lot of things from elementary school through high school. I was bullied a lot, and not just by the kids. It's easy to say that "it doesn't matter" after you grow up, but it absolutely does. When your formative years were spent being beat up, having your stuff stolen, being made fun of every day by kids and teachers, and not having a place to go where you felt safe, it affects you in a very deep and profound way. Even at 33, I still struggle a lot with feelings of worthlessness and hopelessness because that's what I felt every day as a child, and I grew up feeling that it was normal to feel that way all the time. I still have difficulty having conversations with people and almost never approach anyone I don't know for help. It's not something that can always be brushed off so easily. As an adult you can look back at things like that and assume they were insignificant, but when you're that kid, it's not. This is why it's so important for parents to teach their kids to not be terrible to other kids. Sometimes, the kid you're picking on has more going on than you think, and if they're really bad off they can turn into a real monster. Most of them don't, but that doesn't mean that the ones who didn't aren't still dealing with the aftereffects of everything they went through. You can't rely on the school to protect those kids, because they've proven time and again that they are incapable of doing so. In my case, they not only didn't help, but they also made it worse with every action they took. Parents, please for the love of God raise your kids to be good people. Pay attention to them. Be involved. Don't let this shit continue to happen.
I had over 500 kids in my senior class. I was friends with less than 10 of them. Within several years after graduating I would never see or talk to any of them ever again. Just the cycle of life. I'm almost 60.
you must not live in a small town : D
holy moly thats a lot of kids in one class... we had like 53 lol
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That's a small class. I was small town suburb but we had 350.
I’m 53 and had a very similar experience. I haven’t seen or talked to any of them since the mid 90s. The only friend I have from childhood was a kid I met when I was 7. A class of 500 is not small.
These kids were messing around making videos and hanging out. It’s insane they couldn’t see past the few months in front of them. In the grand scheme of life, high school is nothing
I was in high school at the time too. My friends made bombs (thermite bombs even, crazy science nerds), shot guns in the woods, talked about shitty people in school, played Doom and listened to Death Metal, etc.
But we didn’t terrorize and murder innocent people either.
Because monsters are monsters most of life isn’t black and white of course. But black is there
You left out one thing, ya didn't get bullied to unreal levels
@@1594simonsays Did the shooters only kill their bullies?
@@thedarkness9115 no but they did go completely insane and went on a mini massacre from being tormented
@thedarkness9115 no, they went after random people. They themselves had a lot of friends.
I’m almost 40 now and high school just seems like such a blip on the radar. I joined the Navy soon after and then went to college and I barely remember that even lol. If you’re a young man or lady going through a tough time, take a step back and just realize that time period you’re in is such a small window in time.
I know. I barely remember things from over 15-20 years ago. They only had a few weeks until they would never see or be in High school again. If they lived, they would live the rest of their lives to regret it. Such a dumb and horrible mistake they make.
Thank you. All the love to people.❤ Who are going through a tough time.❤
So true. I am in my mid 40's now and was in high school in the 90's. I can barely remember that time now. So many great life events happened after that time and the thought of missing out on those is hard to imagine. Such a horrible tragedy.
@@Ramblingroads True, but please keep in mind that Dylan was suffering from severe, untreated depression, while Eric had a congenital defect which kept him out of the military.
Bullying can lead to long term emotional scarring even after high school
The fact that they initially put memorial crosses for Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold is such an insult. I hope those two monsters aren’t mentioned anywhere on the current memorial
They are not
it was the choice of the carpenter who created the crosses, i believe he made them for free and everything.
there were people who thought it was a good thing, that it was healing for the community to let go of the hate completely and just grieve. some wrote things like “i forgive you” on their crosses, but there were many who wrote things like “how could we ever forgive you?” on there as well. there were also parents who actually destroyed the crosses, if i remember correctly multiple times.
i personally think their crosses should’ve been put further away, i mean if people wanted to grieve those two they would’ve put the work in to walk 5 extra minutes or something. and the victims’ families wouldn’t have had to deal with that sight.
@emptysoul8462 Yeah, I just think it was insulting to put crosses for them alongside their victims crosses.
Just my opinion. That never should have been done for them. They were vile
Very interesting and informative comment , thank you @@emptysoul8462
What about the people that mentally castrated them through years of covert abuse and neglect potentially
High school was awkward, lonely, infuriating, and depressing for all of us at one point; that's no reason or excuse to go on a murder spree. When I was in 7th grade someone started a horrible rumor about me and my friend that I thought I'd never be able to move past or live down; I had several crushes that ended in heartbreak; I had more humiliating experiences than I could count. But I got through it and Dylan and Eric would have too. Like you said, if they'd just stuck it out until they graduated they probably would never have seen the majority of those people again. Prayers for the victims and their families .
Yeah I had a crush try to physically fight me all because I told someone I thought was my friend that I liked him & she told everyone else. I'd never even spoken to him.... Still never thought to harm a bunch of innocent people. smh Never even wanted to harm HIM.
I think they wanted infamy….they said the one boy was actually friendly and involved, I think Dylan. He had promise, I don’t think he was that sad/depressed or hated the other kids. Also, the kids they killed weren’t even the popular bullies, some were outcasts themselves. They didn’t sympathize….this was about killing as many people as possible for the infamy.
Most people need to realize that high school isn’t all there is to life. There’s so much more. Who you are now doesn’t define you
the thing about Columbine that i think gets brushed over a lot is how many times parents, authorities, the school, friends could’ve intervened. survivors have said this before, Brooks Brown for example.
both Eric and Dylan had deep issues, they both had low self-esteem, though Eric hid that fact more than Dylan did. They both wanted to die, especially Dylan. Eric was diagnosed posthumously as a psychopath, but there’s multiple instances where it’s pretty clear that Eric had empathy and even remorse to some degree. there were multiple people who liked him, though he had less friends than Dylan did, but still.
i honestly think people didn’t pay attention to these guys enough. there were so many signs. i mean Eric’s dad once found one of his pipebombs in their house and all Eric got as punishment was having to go blow it up in the middle of nowhere with him. the feeling i kinda get from this whole case is “well, we didn’t really question our problematic norms and politics and education system but the real monsters were still these two mentally ill teenagers!”.
seems a little counterproductive to me. i’m not saying they aren’t to blame, i think they should’ve faced not only actual consequences for their pre-shooting actions but also should’ve received actual help. Eric had a therapist, but if you look the guy up his ratings are really really bad. guns were all over place, they didn’t really struggle to get them.
remember that just because you had it hard in highschool and dealt with it eventually without hurting anyone, it’s not like saying that will prevent any more shootings. the people who have that need to blow others and themselves up aren’t gonna stop because you told them to “get over themselves”.
it’s pretty clear that these guys had the potential to be normal, maybe even good people. it’s really fucking tragic that this useless culture of ignorance cost the lives of 12 innocent kids, a brave teacher and 2 messed up guys. not to mention all the people injured and/or forever traumatised.
Yes so tragic. I feel bad for those that have to suffer. Just look at overseas and what they're doing. Killing innocent people and there is other countries supporting that
You even see them getting shouldered in the hallways in one video clip. I know what it's like to be bullied...not many really do. You battle thoughts you wouldn't imagine and a need for revenge that normies can't fathom. It's all tragic and people feel like theres no justice you can't get every single person who bullies you so they just snap
But yes they were. They were bullied. They were cast outs. They were the easy targets for bullying. Yeah I was bullied all through to high school everyday and I can understand bullying isn't taking so seriously back in the day but it should be more today than ever
@@leilanisunsets1362 look up bullish people I think That's what set them off. Plus if you got teachers down your back it'll really set you off
@@leilanisunsets1362 they were not bullied that's a myth being teased doesn't mean bullying they were bullies and troublemakers themselves also racist also non of their victims were bullies so this is just a massive myth
I remember where I was when I first heard about the Columbine shooting. It was the 10th grade and I was drawing a scene from the first Matrix film out of a magazine I just purchased. a teacher happen to walk past my desk and thought I was glorifying the shooters. After trying to explain to her at nauseam that this was just a scene from an upcoming film, she wouldn't hear any of it. She brought it to the principal and after a quick conversation I was able to return to class. In hindsight I probably should have put my drawing away, but in those days I was really insulated in my bubble.
It was a sign of that time. When Kurt Cobain died, teachers were angry that kids wanted to perform Nirvana songs for the high school talent show.
This is such a crazy comment you've written here, and I'm glad you did. I'm always interested in what things might have influenced shooters, and The Matrix was released in the U.S. in March right before the Columbine tragedy. But it seemed like they came up with this "Trenchcoat Mafia" idea well before the movie came out.
Not gonna lie, I didn't plan on finishing this video. But you have a way of talking that makes it so engaging. Subscribed!
Thanks, really appreciate it!
The 2007 shooting was at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, not University of Virginia. They’re about 3hrs away from one another. There is also a girl named Regina Rohde who survived Columbine as a Freshman and then survived Virginia Tech years later.
Yeah you're right. My bad. When I'm rambling for 45 minutes I def can get a few details a bit off. Ironically I've actually driven thru there 20 years ago when I hiked the Appalachian trail.
No worries, it’s an excellent video. Thank you for taking time to create this. I only mentioned it bc I live here about 4 blocks from Norris Hall at VT.
@@Josiris218 Thanks. Nice, that's a cool area. My best friend has property in Floyd Virginia not super far from there and I go there all the time and will probably live in a trailer there someday so I'll def get reacquainted with the area for sure lol.
@@Ramblingroads my Father lives in Riner, right outside of Floyd. Next time you’re there, check out El Charro Mexican and Bootleg BBQ. Also, theres a little place a few miles outside of there called The Bread Basket, they have some great things there as well. Cheers!
@@Ramblingroads My father lives in Riner, just outside of Floyd. You should check out El Charro Mexican & Bootleg BBQ next time you’re in that area. Good people & great food. Or make the trip over to Blacksburg and check out the area. Dirty Dancing was filmed about 20min from here at Mountain Lake, and the resort is still the same as it was along with the cabins on the property. Well worth checking out.
These two guy’s were cold blooded & evil. Bullying is NO right of passage for anyone to have to deal with, we can understand their struggles but most condemn their actions. They knew they weren’t gonna live through this, this was a suicide pact. So my sympathies are for the lives lost & the families. In general any movie, documentary about mass killers or a killer must come with a disclaimer. Pointing out these ppl should not be idealized for their crimes but are called out for who they really are? MURDERS!
Period!
I agree. These 2 extremely vile, wicked and disgusting monsters had destroyed many lives on that tragic day. 🤢🤢🤮🤮☹️☹️❗️❗️🚨🚨 The 13 innocent people were robbed and violated of their hopes and dreams. ✝️✝️😞😞😨😨🥺🥺💐💐🙏🏽🙏🏽🕊️🕊️
You've never been bullied or see it happen to your children, sibling? Bullying kills people slowly slower than getting shot but both kill a kid. But these two had some friends, plans to go to college so they had more than the average Joe. Family had money too.
Crazy how calling these kids monsters is the only view to have. Forced to have this view and forget the kids who die from suicide from the same bullies complained about here.
@@JaquelineGoodspeed with all due respect mama, I may not have had a child bullied ? But I myself have been on the end of being bullied. Youth suicide is as tragic to the world than any war or disease. A life taken due to pain & loneliness breaks the hearts of all. We can agree that bullying is wrong, but we must also call a person what they are when they take a life? Their murders that killed & took their own lives to avoid being held accountable. The key to healing a society is to recognize its ills & address them rationally. My prayers go out to the families of the victims & even a little bit to the families of the two murderers . God only knows how their sins have caused them. Available youth services ? Must be found & put in place. Parents must take a a more active roll in there children’s lives at home & school. Involvement is important if we are to save are children from making a dreadful decision.
There’s a CZcamsr I think CVA archives. He talks a lot about the this massacre. What he mentions in many of his videos is that these kids were not even bullied like the media portrayed them. They ran with their own group. Even Dylan went to his prom just to shoot up columbine days later. How many schools across America has hazing? Almost all of them. He goes in to talk about how these kids were actually depressed and manic. Dylan was suffering with major depression and Eric was a hot head psychopath. They hated everyone and everything. People already knew about them. Eric was in trouble with the law. He hated law enforcement. How come their basement video was never shown to the world only to families of those involved. A lot of those who watched their last video even said how much hatred they had for everyone. They wanted to cause as much destruction and destroy the one thing they hated the school and everything that came with it.
It’s not true that they weren’t bullied and it’s incredibly easy to fact check that. Not that them being bullied excuses anything it’s just misinformation to say that they weren’t bullied
@@spikejonzelover420 they became bullies themselves.
@@spikejonzelover420 Greetings. Hi. Yes. Eric, Dylan and an another friend were tracked out after having somehow hacked into locker combination system and put a threatening note in that person’s locker. ☹️☹️😨😨 There is no denying that these 2 monsters were indeed dangerous. 😱😱❗️❗️🚨🚨
@@spikejonzelover420 Yeah. I agree. Eric and Dylan and another friend were allegedly accused of hacking into the computer locker combination system that shows other students’ combination numbers and placing a threatening note on whoever who owned that locker. 😨😨❗️❗️
@@desireetello5755 Yes they were also assholes to other people as well
theirs also the “i hate Mondays” girl who shot and killed students at her school in the 1970s.
I just read about that. Crazy. The people who target young kids are the absolute worst.
@@Ramblingroads are you making an episode on it in the future? That’s one a lot of people don’t know about and don’t talk about that much. Great episode, i subscribed. 👍✌️
@@WillyWoahDj I might, but since I'm in Colorado, I'll probably cover more of the stories and dark history here first. It seems like people are liking the approach of actually going to the scene of the incidents and since that's in Cali, I won't be there soon, but I'm sure there's plenty of other interesting stories in Colorado I'll cover. I have some Peru videos still but I'll make some other cool dark cases soon.
Brenda Spencer?
Yeah. Her dad knew she was mentally I’ll so he bought her a gun.
This was like going for a walk with a friend. Interesting background info on not just the Columbine shooters but others in history too.
4:30 yeah, honestly this sentiment is very true. My highschool years were hell. Without going into long detail, I was bullied and hated by students and some staff. I was also bullied relentlessly at home. I was starved, I was excluded and talked about like I was a walking plague (I was a lesbian and this was the very early 00s). I also ended up having a huge mental breakdown, due to all of this as well as childhood trauma, and I basically spent a whole year blacking out constantly. I didn't even graduate. In 11th grade I was pulled from school and only went to after school sessions with the math teacher, and when that also failed because I was a freaking zombie, I then dropped out entirely. A few years later when I woke back up I got my GED. It's now been nearly 20 years and while it was awful, it's far in the past and I don't give it all much thought at all. It's just a part of my life that's over and done. In the moment it can certainly feel like forever, or like it'll never get better, but it will. All these two guys had to do was keep going one more year, or even just drop out like I did. Then they could be where I am, looking back and feeling a sense of peace that those days are over. But instead they stole their own futures, the futures of their victims and the victims' families.
So sorry you went through that. You’re strong for getting past it. Your words at the end of your writing were beautiful said
As far as the antidepressants are concerned, Harris did have Luvox in his bloodstream at the time of the shooting, but Klebold didn't. Harris taking Luvox to treat depression was the reason why he was turned down from the marines, but I don't think he was ever aware of the rejection before April 20.
Yes, your right. It was Luvox. I thought Paxil, but was wrong. But I've taken some of that stuff over the years and it def puts you in a weird state and I generally don't think they are good.
Klebold was the one on Paxil supposedly.
So dangerous with antideppressants and adhd medications given to kids and young adults. Brain altering them before theyr brains are «grown up». Insted of just having other kinds of schools. More exercise. Better foods. Learning a skill. Wonder after 2020 how many more kids on pharmaceutical drugs. So sad. How many kids got problems during the insanity the last years. They will probably trigger this school shootings so they can homeschool a lot of kids. Just think how mutch they saved to give people online school.
In Norway we have not shool shootings - BUT the military are when kids are at school - «practice» schoolshootings, bombings and knife stabbing. In front of kids. With play blood. Trauma bond mindcontrol IMO. It is so crazy that if I would tell you more. You probably would not have belived me. So this is not today as it looks like. It is beeing triggered. IMO.
With the cybernetic token economy. Where a lot of children will just play video games and have online school. Building theyr identical twin. How many more will be medicated. How many more bombs, shootings and knife stabbings. Everyone must probably for our own safety scan out face and iris at every corner. Problem - reaction - solution. I do not say all school shootings is problem reaction solution BUT - IMO they want to close schools in the new token economy. The cybernetic direct democraty. What was digitalized during the lockdowns and then had other solutions. Will have those solutions in the future. And problems like schoolshootings - better scare parents to home school theyr kids.
Sorry bad written english. A bit late here - but wanted to comment.
I lived in Colorado for about 8 years and lived not too far from Columbine H.S and Deer Creek Canyon park. I hiked so many of those trails and there is a huge Lockheed Martin facility in the foothills. I can honestly say as beautiful as Colorado is there are a lot of weird, deranged, crazy folks in that state. I don’t know if it’s the high altitude or the fact the state is so isolated in the middle of the country. A lot of crimes and massacres have been committed in CO. Many crimes have till this day have not been solved. The place is so damn remote with open mountains where criminals commit crimes and get away with it. I am just glad I am back home in the east coast, not saying it’s perfect but CO is in its league of its own for crazies. I forgot to mention the drug and homeless problems too in CO is a HUGE problem.
I live in Pueblo, Colorado, and I completely agree with this statement. It seems that more crazy shit has happened here than other places… And I do think the remote locations here and those small mountain towns with nothing to do is definitely a factor to the madness.
I will say though as a native of Colorado, the north half of Colorado is completely juxtaposed to the south half of Colorado. I have found that I do not like the north half of Colorado or the people that live up there, but the south half of Colorado is wonderful. Lots of culture and lots of people who actually enjoy our state and what it has to offer.
That's anywhere that's remote. I live in California, and there are cartel operations happening in the low and high desert. And who knows how many bodies are buried in Nevada
I lived in Longmont, CO. Those clear blue skies are beautiful! I got picked on, bullied too, in elementary school, 4th to 6th grade, when I was a scrawny dork. Then I hit puberty, bulked up a bit and the bullying stopped. How I handled bullying was, while getting into a few fistfights, I retreated into the fantasy world of comic book superheroes, even drew some of my own, and then got into moviemaking. My movies proved a great way to make friends, because other kids wanted to be IN my movies. Thank God this activity proved to be a constructive outlet for my rage and passion! While I wanted to INJURE, SUBDUE my tormentors, even then I knew the spiritual blackness that would ensue from KILLING them. These guys obviously crossed that line.
My oldest niece was in kindergarten when Columbine happened - when my brother moved to Littleton, Columbine was her feeder. She ended up being in Mr. D’Angellis’ final graduating class :: a promise he made to the children/families who had just entered the school district was that he’d stay as principal until they kindergartners on April 20, 1999 graduated. It was an honor to sit in on Mr. D’s final commencement. We are Columbine! 🫶🏼
I recruit for the Army and can 100% confirm that NO branch gives their recruiters a bonus for putting someone in. It’s our job and we get paid the same every month if we put 0 in or 3 in.
Ah ok. I was in the army myself and assumed there was a small bonus. I didn't realize that wasn't the case. That's gotta be a tough job.
Being a recruiter nowadays, especially under the Biden administration has to be impossible! I’m former Military and tell many young people don’t do it. Let the Politicians fight these stupid Wars.
You might get paid the same (the military pay scale is universal) but don't pretend like you don't have target demographics and don't get some kind of benefit for hitting numbers in certain areas. Recruiters had target demographics in the 90s when I was in the Army, and they damn sure have them now with how woke the military has become. I'd bet my disability check that you are "encouraged" to favor some demographics over others, or be more lenient on qualifications for "oppressed" groups. Don't bullshit a bullshitter, champ. I know what goes on in the military. I spent 10 years learning the politics. All bonuses aren't financial, and military recruiting is far from a pure meritocracy.
@@JakeKoeniggot em
This is one of the most entertaining true crime/vlog video that I’ve ever watched. I love how it feels like we’re going on a very dark exploration together. I subbed you! 😊
Thanks so much I'm really happy you enjoyed and subbed. Cheers.
It’s a misnomer, they were not unpopular, they were not picked on mercilessly, they weren’t poor, they weren’t abused. Just misguided and tortured in their own minds.
I was just a few years out of high school when the McDonalds shooting happened. It was 1984 near San Diego. The guy killed close to 20 and injured as many, before a sniper took him out. The postal shooting was a couple of years later. That guy killed 14 and injured 6 before taking his own life. Those things were not heard of back then and yes, that’s where the term “going postal” originated. That was the year I got married. He could have saved me a lot of trouble. Not seriously. But those two got the ball rolling. The one in 79 was a kid who was obviously mental but she shot several, killing 2, because she hated Mondays.
They didn't say '3,2,1' before shooting themselves. It was reported Patti heard it in the library, but she came out stating she didn't hear anything.
Yes, I think you're right. A few things were part of sensationalism. Like they said one of the guys asked a Rachel Joy Scott if she believed in God and she said yes and they shot her. That might have been another girl or not happened too. I'm not sure on some of the details but tried to give a general perspective. Sorry if some details are a bit off. Just don't have enough time. Cheers.
@Ramblingroads For some clarification on that confusing story which yes has been so sensationalized; that was Val Schnurr. She was shot and screamed "Oh my God! Help me!" (Heard on the 911 video) and then she was asked "Do you believe in God?" She said "Yes" then she was asked "Why?" "Because my family does" then she crawled back under the table as if she was dying. They didn't shoot her after asking, she was already shot.
Craig Scott misheard who it was said to and thought it was victim Cassie Bernall. Even though the only witness to Cassie's death (she was right under the table with her and watched) said this did not happen; Cassie's family stuck with it as it gave them comfort. And of course the media sensationalized it as if she were a martyr. Craig later apologized to Val and has now accepted this did not happen the way he thought.
Rachel Scott that came from Richard Castaldo. He did wake up from a coma and initially say Rachel was taunted for her religion; however when he had more time to process what happened he later recanted. The Scott family story of what happened to her (saying Eric pulled her by the hair, asked her, and shot her point blank in the head) per the autopsy report is not possible. She was shot quickly in several areas from a distance. She probably didn't event know what happened. But they stuck to it as it gave them some comfort, which I won't judge them on as I can't imagine the pain they've had.
@@RamblingroadsIt was also referenced in the incredible film Zero Day (2002) so that countdown has been attached to the story for a long time
@@amitycamp I'll have to check out that film but I'm not surprised if there is a ton of misinformation out there. There are thousands of pages of documents so its hard to sift thru everything.
The version I have is the house was built in 1978, they moved in there in 1989, and was finally sold in 2014
At first i thought another video of another guy telling me about Columbine and what happened...but this was one was different, i really like it. One oft the best i saw, great work.
High school is such a short time and you are grown a long time. I don't even see my classmates
Another sad shooting in Colorado was the Aurora Theater shooting, saw the makeshift memorial just days after the shooting and when Christian Bale visited…used to live right by there and always went to the Century 16 for the movies as the Aurora Mall was right across from it
Yes, I'm going to do a video about that too in the next few weeks.
I watched the U2 live at Red Rocks concert once and couldnt help but notice all those kids in the crowd were just in the process of creating the kids affected at Columbine on that day
I think because Sue Klebold is so vocal and none of the other parents are, she gets to spin the story in her son’s favor whereas Eric’s parents are not. But don’t get it confused, BOTH boys had severe mental illness, and sadistic ideology. In fact, the massacre, or “NBK” as they called it was DYLAN’S idea, he brought it up first.
There’s a podcast by a survivor called Confronting Columbine. It’s definitely worth listening to.
I worked in a school for 30 years as the head secretary. I took that job mostly so I’d have summers off and Christmas breaks with my kids. I never guessed it would be a stressful job - until Laurie Dann opened fire in a school down the block from the school I was working at (Illinois).
After that - all doors were locked. We didn’t have a buzzer system to let people in - or cameras - or security personnel. I - was pretty much - it. If someone knocked on the door and wanted to be let in - I went to the door - with a knife - and spoke to them through the glass. I never let anyone in I didn’t personally know - but - even that wasn’t a fool proof way to protect the kids in that building.
I left that school and started working at a different school in a different neighborhood. We had locked doors there, and a buzzer system to let people in. But - how do you know if the person at the door - even if it’s a parent you recognize - is actually safe and not in the midst of a psychotic break? You don’t.
Those kids were important to me. Keeping that building safe - was my first priority - but - I was limited. All there was between the outside and the inside - was a stupid door bell. I was at my desk when I heard the news reports on the radio that was on my desk that a school shooting at Columbine was in progresss. Columbine was in Colorado - my school was in Illinois - but - it affected me - and all of us - as if it had happened across the street.
Back then - we all thought Columbine would be the ‘last’ school shooting. We all thought there would be more and better safety procedures established in all schools and we thought more would be done to recognize students that had the potential to cause harm. That didn’t happen. Anywhere. I'm retired now, but as I write this - it's August - and the new school year for thousands of schools across the nation is beginning. How long will it be - before new reports - of new school shootings - start making their way into the news?
It’s 2024 as I write this - and since Columbine - there have been 413 more school shootings. Something is terribly wrong with this picture. RIP all victims of school shootings - and my deepest condolences to all those survivors and families still suffering.
This was one of the best Columbine videos I’ve ever watched. Thank you so much for taking the time to do this on the 25th anniversary of the tragedy. Only thing that I noticed is that you said they counted down from three and committed suicide at the same time. Which is not correct- forensics found pieces of Eric’s brain matter underneath of a pipe bomb that Dylan had placed assumedly right before he had ended his life. They found blood in Dylan’s lungs which means he did not die instantly and likely choked on his blood before dying a few minutes later. Thank you again! New subscriber here!
Thanks. I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Yes, I think I was wrong about that. They died at different times. I'll post the Suzanne Morphew story in a couple hours. That's an interesting one.
I live about 5 minutes from the site of the McDonald’s shooting here in San Diego. It’s in the border town of San Ysidro, part of SD county. I remember growing up and hearing the stories of it and even up to this day at 29, I can’t help to imagine how horrible the event was every time I pass by. It’s no longer a McDonald’s, it’s a satellite campus for the local Community College. There’s a memorial there tho. Back when it happened, my parents were young and about to marry but they crossed the border a lot and said that McDonald’s was frequented by a lot of people just trying to find a better life through hard work. My mom even said she couldn’t imagine how life would have been if she decided to go in and eat there, something she seldomly did.
My Dad had taken me and my brother to that Mc Donald’s that day, about an hour before the shootings. We were coming back from TJ and he had to feed me and my brother so he stopped in and got stuff to go.
He heard about the shooting later that day. I was a itty bitty at the time with no recollection of that day at all but my dad would talk about it when it was mentioned on the news on the anniversaries and what not. I still live in SD and it does give me a weird feeling thinking about it when I pass by the area. I feel awkward saying I have feeling of sorrow and yet gratitude that we were not there when it happened. I’ve seen the unedited video of the scene and seeing the baby lifeless on the floor hits in so many feels.
I watched a documentary on this and you could see on their faces all these years later that they really haven't fully recovered from this. It was in their eyes. Very eery.
I remember this day vividly i was in 10th grade then. What terrified me the most was the killers where our age as well as the victims. I remember at the very beginning of June someone who only identified themselves as a senior in our school, threatened to kill everyone on the last day of school. It even made the announcements where our principal assured us we where safe. There was a senior who always wore trenchcoats and had a scary temper. He threatened to kill a kid in the past. He was frequently builled as well. He was suspected and everyone just kept a closer eye on him. Rumors where everywhere. Turns out the person who made the threat was not him at all but another senior that spread that fake message as a sick senior "prank". I heard he lost his diploma and was kicked permanently out of of school as a result. The next year we got off to a "great start" as on day 1 we hear that a bomb was put under the school in a pipe. Turns out that was fake too. Thats when it occurred to me school will never be "normal" as it had been for the past 12 years for me. The rest of that year went by without incident
Wow, sorry to hear that. I imagine most of America went thru things like this. So horrible that Dylan and Eric increased this madness. I'm glad you and everyone at least were not hurt. No doubt hs is a super hard time for people. I wish they all knew its not important for most of their lives.
@@Ramblingroads that's truth we put so much effort into being cool but ultimately it doesn't matter as we enter our own worlds. I'm considering home schooling my son as it's just so bad now. Before that day you heard about the occasional fights here and there. Sometimes a student was shot or stabbed by very far and few between and then usually between 2 kids. But these two where killing everyone in sight. School didn't feel the same those last 2 years I was there
I am 41 now. I was a junior when this happened at a small high school in Long Island, NY. We were horrified and there as a noticeable police presence around the school the day after. My school, like Columbine, wasn't known for many violent incidents. A group of three students, however, thought they could be funny by walking into the school wearing black trench coats. Few of us even noticed or thought it was out of the ordinary. Their first period teacher, however, immediately saw it and told them to take the coats off. One of them responded "No I want to keep it on. Don't worry about it. No big deal." The teacher, clearly annoyed, casually went out to the hallway monitor and told her to alert the vice principal (who was also the dean of students, and as an ex-Marine, he took no BS from anyone). The three students were suspended for 30 days and were given 30 more days of detention, as well as a stern talking-to by both the dean and police officers. They never did anything stupid again, and one of them went on to be an accomplished lawyer. It's a shame that I don't have a lot of good memories from the mid to late 90's unless I'm watching a show about that decade. All I remember without that is the bad stuff.
How in general, living in such a beautiful place, with such a nature, would you want to kill someone? As a child, I couldn't even dream of a tenth of what these two had!...
Came from Reddit ty sm! Really enjoyed it & what a beautiful place to grow up in. I'd have been climbing those rocks as a kid too ❤
Thanks. I'm really glad you enjoyed it. I know so many videos have been made about it but not about surroundings. Really remarkable area.
Thinking bullies obsessed with guns, going into the military as the best thing is bizarre. As we often know, bullies with unchecked rage often become the worst kinds of cops or military personnel because now they have the training and authority. Shocked by the naïveté by this guy recommending it.
This is a great video! I had no idea Eric’s nose was broken. I’ve researched a lot on Columbine. I was in high school in North Carolina on the coast when it happened, and it even affected us and caused panic at our school.
Glad you enjoyed it. I was in NC when Columbine happened too, but at Fort Bragg. I used to go to Wilmington most weekends around that time. I was just one year out of high school so I'm not sure how my school reacted but I think people on base were probably pretty concerned something like that could happen on the base. There was a shooting on base in 95 where William Kreutzer Jr killed an officer and wounded 18 others so its def possible anywhere.
Those red rocks are called The Flat Irons. And they have a connection to another Colorado case. The JonBenét Ramsey house also sits off The Flat Irons in Bolder Colorado.
Actually they look similar but the red rocks in video are west of Littleton and the flatirons are up next to Boulder about an hour away but same type of rock formation. Red rocks concert venue is between both places. I'll probably do a video on JonBenet Ramsey too. Crazy story.
Very interesting video! I certainly don't see a lot where somebody goes to multiple areas where significant events took place. I hope they get the funds needed to keep the memorial in good repair.
Thanks. I got the idea to go to the location from another channel
"Infamous Crime Locations." Seemed like the concept does well and I'm in Denver anyway so I didn't have to travel far. I'm sure the memorial will always be in good repair. That's one thing that won't be ignored.
@Ramblingroads I certainly hope so! They just asked for some donations this year saying it's in need of repairs. Good news is right now there's plenty of people willing to raise money for it!
I just stumbled upon your channel... wow. Deep... thoughtful.. respectful and just awesome to listen to!!!@
Thanks a lot. I'm really glad you enjoyed. It took over 200 videos for people to find me but better late then never lol.
Great video. Thank you. There's a great book dealing with the tragedy. I read it a couple of years ago. "Columbine" by Dave Cullen
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it. I heard about that book. If I have I time I'll check it out.
this book has actually been debunked by many people who were involved with columbine themselves, this guy pulled a bunch of stuff out of his ass. The two boys were not bullied. And he makes it out that they were completely bullied and just shot up the school because of that. He also tries to say that Dylan was just a follower of Eric, when in reality both of those boys were very messed up in the head and obviously needed a lot of therapy.
Was that your own drone footage you collected of the areas you went to or found online? Great video brother.
Thanks. That was my drone footage. I have a mavic mini 3 pro I use. Lost my first one on Mt Elbert last year so I got this one. A little pricey but nice.
Sad thing is they all only had a few weeks to go and would have never had to deal with highschool again and moved on with their lives. This so could have been prevented
I know. Its not like they would see 95% of those people again if ever. High school is a tiny part of our whole lives and not even that important. I'm sure they would regret it if giving the chance.
Dylan *was* shy and bullied but he was also a bully himself. He used to bully girls in gym and a special needs student named Adam for instance.
Oh, also, his Dad lives in the house still. The parents split after the shooting. I feel terrible for them.
Proof?
@@thepennsylvanian9280 Of Dylan being a Bully or Tom Klebold still owning the house?
The later answer is Mrs Klebolds book (I do recommend that) and real estate sales etc. he keeps a low profile. Not comfortable with attention as Sue has grown to be able to do.
Him being a bully at times has quite a few references in the 11k. It’s searchable though. A disabled students mother (Adam Kyler) wanted him removed from Columbine due to the hell Dylan and some others gave him often. He’d do cruel things like write gay slurs on his locker. In a sad irony he would kill a mentally disabled student in the library. Sue used to work with disabled kids. Makes you wonder if he felt a grudge.
He would also get physically aggressive with girls in gym. Push them over with force. Dylan was very tall.
He was the ultimate Bullied who became the Bully.
@@thethrowawaythatstayed7055 well thank you for the intelligent answer! I will get her book also. Thanks!
Tom Klebold does not live there anymore. I think he moved around 2014.
@@thepennsylvanian9280 No problem! All her percentage of proceeds from it go to brain health charities. It’s biased at times but it made me feel a lot of empathy for her.
The sad thing about it to me remains that Dylan could have went off to a good college and probably very successful by now and never even thought about the jocks again in his life. And Eric would be about retirement age now had he joined the Marine Corps.
And everyone who was killed…what they were robbed out of.
A real shame.
The music from your final thoughts took me right back to watching ‘Elephant’… nice touch
I was a sophomore in HS then. Wasn't popular, was bullied, had depression and anxiety, not a great home life; it never crossed my mind to harm the bullies or the dumb teachers that targeted me. I graduated, went to college and grew stronger from all those lessons. I'm 40 now, almost have my PhD and am a protector of the bullied. HS isn't the best but it's a part of life and most move on; why not wait till graduation and move on to other things? Such a waste. I remember watching a documentary where it said that Dylan and Eric were the Perfect Storm; had they never met each other, this never would have happened. Eric was the psychopath and Dylan the depressive follower whom Eric validated.
I know both parents of the boys are so very upset about what happened that day as well! My heart truly goes out to them too! REAL TALK FOR LIFE! 42 yr old who loves jb
What helped me make it through high school was my Father telling me “Two months after you graduate from HS you will never see or have to deal with any of those people again! If you’re lucky you’ll make one or two lifelong friends from high school.” And he was telling the truth! After you graduate nothing that happened there ever matters again!
Idk how old you were but that statement of not seeing them again isn’t necessarily true anymore thanks to social media. Back when this happened it was more probable
@@sickofguysnamedtodd2293 social media is not real life! And I’m a millennial!! We was the first real wave of all that! 😂 baby I was on MySpace for Gods sake! You can’t tell me nothing about this. But thank u.
I was at the Springfield mall when Sylvia Seegrist when on her shooting spree. We walked right by her. We thought her guns were fake because it was around Halloween.
I was bullied in high school most of the time. I’m 32 now and looking back it was such a small sliver of time. I agree with you, one month later and they would’ve moved on. Don’t get me wrong, it did take me a while to move on what I went through for years after. However, I’m healing and reflecting on that time now. Killing is never the answer. I never got the life I wanted either but never considered going on a rampage like them. I hope those affected by this shooting and the recent ones like Uvalde are doing okay and RIP to all the victims in these horrific tragedies
There have been around 15,000 mass shootings, over 100 school shootings, and over TWO MILLION non-mass shootings in America since Columbine. The 2023 Dadeville mass shooting had 36 gunshot victims (Columbine had 34), and almost all the victims were teens under 18, just like Columbine. Yet people are still obsessed with a shooting from 1999, and almost nobody even heard about Dadeville, or any of the 180 mass shootings so far this year, or the 604 mass shootings in 2023, or the 695 mass shootings in 2022, or the 698 mass shootings in 2021, or the 615 mass shootings in 2020, and so on.
So the real question is why we cherry-pick a handful of shootings to talk about and remember forever and completely ignore 99.99% of them. Why we get hundreds of videos like this obsessing over a shooting from 1999 with no mention of the TWELVE mass shootings so far in May 2024 (it's May 5th today). This guy is still talking about the Charles Whitman shooting in 1966. See what I mean?
So what's the pattern here? Why do some shootings matter and others don't? Why do some victims matter and others don't? Why does Columbine matter but Dadeville doesn't? I know the pattern. Does anyone else know the pattern? This guy knows the pattern, but he'll never admit it.
I hear ya. Its all pretty weird but most of it is about interest in the story itself. I'm doing a video soon about JonBenet Ramsey. I never realized it was such an interesting story in general because of the long random ransom note, but the fact she was a beauty queen, rich, young etc is a story. I think Columbine was big because it was one of the first and it wasn't one person but 2 which is weird. One of them could have stopped the other. They were from decent background etc. How many other shootings were 2 people at a school? Most are solo right? People are burned out and have fatigue from these stories so there is no novelty as much as before. Its become normalized. Sadly no one honestly cares a ton about random victims they have never met, they care about the story and the mysteries behind it. What pattern are you thinking?
Hi. I really enjoyed your upload, fella. I remember this awful event, I was at high school here in the UK and still to this day can not get my head around it. You're a great narrator. You have a new subscriber 😊.
Glad you enjoyed it and subscribed. Really appreciate it and hope I have some cool new videos soon.
I lived in Littleton and i honestly i walk passed this memorial, i am a nature photographer. I was so disappointed, the fact is as you called them as idiots, Dylan and Eric used to talk to my late sister. She was mad at them too. We were so surprised that this happened at all.
People don't get Jeffco, they never talk about the bullying, Dylan and Eric may have never been bullied, but my sister was transferred to Columbine in Spring of 1998, a year before, the weird part was Brooks came to my sister as a friend.
I wonder why your late sister was only mad at Eric and Dylan. According to the 11k reports, many students stated "redacted" shot at the students, not Eric and Dylan. I wonder if there really were more than two shooters.
@AntiMasonic93 there is more to it that I don't care to bring up because Dylan and Eric's issues
Was she surprised it was them?
@thethrowawaythatstayed7055 no she wasn't, she was unnerved and expressed to me that she did not ever want me to remember talking to them
@@electrofonickitty823 Were the stories about them being bullied true or they weren't bullied as bad as the media portrayed them to be?
I was in elementary school down the road. We were on the soccer field at recess when the teachers ran out and make us go inside. They told us “there was a fire at Columbine.” Then our parents came to get us and we didn’t have school for at least a week. Sad that we continue to see mass murder like this in our schools in the years since Columbine.
This is what happens when bullying goes too far. The victim becomes a monster.
Don't forget the first school shooting that took place in 1979 in San Diego, California. The killer, Brenda Ann Spencer, 16 years old, shot into the school yard just across the street from her home and killed 2 and wounded 9. Asked why she did, she replied, " I don't like Mondays." Bob Geldoff then wrote the hit song "i don't like Mondays" based on the shooting.
My wife’s family moved to Michigan from Littleton, Co the summer before she stared high school. She would’ve been a freshman when it happened.
Really impressive documentary! This case has always intrigued me. As you stated the start, they only had a few weeks left. 😔
This was excellent. Very interesting. I'll be checking out your other videos for sure.
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed. I only have one other video on true crime besides this one but I'll have more coming up.
No one was at fault for what they did but them. They were immature misfits with anger issues who decided to do something evil. Forget them, and remember the victims.
Theres a lifetime movie called dawn anna. It shows the life of a single mom of 4 teenagers who gets and recovers from cancer. When their life finally seems to start coming back together the family finds out there is an active shooter/s at the youngest childs school and unfortunately she was one of their victims (Lauren Townsend)
I was severely bullied in high school including being caught on fire and I NEVER once thought about harming ANYONE.
Oh my goodness I’m so sorry🫂🫶🏽
You know I get it, anger is one thing but willing to cause a school. Massacre like Columbine is just wrong. There's other ways to deal with anger. They are much healthier and better.❤ My heart goes to all of those people who were lost during Columbine.❤ Rest in peace all of you. May your memories not be forgotten.❤
I was in shock when heard about the shooting,
I was a Junior in highschool I admire Rachel Scott
and Cassie bernal because they were not afraid to
to talk about there christain faith
Excellent job on this video! Loved the music, too. New sub!
Thanks. I'm glad you enjoyed and subscribed.
I’m so shocked that there are some people from my generation that don’t even know this happened. One of the first school shootings ever, that could’ve been easily avoided. Most of America’s tragedies were easily avoidable. My heart goes out to the families of the victims…
Growing up in Littleton I grew up with teachers, church leaders, and friends having survived or had lost family to this.
It’s disgusting that people fetishize them.
Thanks for posting
They ended up stopping after starting taking shots at the LEO's arriving on scene. You could hear them actually say "Really? Is that how you wanna go? Not like that" then they say for a second and then went over to in front if the book cases where they took their own lives.
You USED to be able to watch the surveillance tapes on here with audio.
It was insane!
This is a sad case for everyone involved, but nothing happens in a vacuum. Every action has a reaction, and cumulative actions lead to a breaking point for better or worse. It's like the flutter of butterfly wings, which cause an earthquake halfway around the world. We are all connected in some way. The quicker we learn this, the better off we will be.
I totally agree. You're absolutely right.
Hey! I'm new here and I love this channel! But I live in Virginia and it was Virginia Tech that was shot up. I REFUSE to say the shooters name but I live 30 mins from Tech. I vividly remember when it happened. Just wanna give respect to the ones who were lost 😢 thank you for what you do! I'm really enjoying your content! Keep it up man!!!
Awesome! Thanks:) Yes, that was crazy in Virginia Tech. I was thru Blacksburg when I hiked the Appalachian trail. My best friend has property in Floyd, Virginia so I'm in the mtns there all the time. I'll have some videos you might appreciate coming up on Chris Watts, James Holmes and Bundy among others. Cheers!
I'll never forget this day and all those affected. May they all be at rest. They had their whole lives ahead of them and so many others injured and affected by this travesty. Dave Sanders as well for his heroics and losing his life too short also. I knew 25 years was coming. It's still very sad to even try to think about it. I was 17 then and these young students and teacher I still grieve for. 🙏 🙏
This happened on my son's birthday. I was so heartbroken overwhelmed and everything else to go with it. April 20 was a rough day
Great video bro. You did a good job honoring the victims
I am so glad that I came across your channel! You have a new subscriber! I have been binge watching your videos! Love the way you tell these stories!
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Thank you SO much. I really need this after getting bashed on reddit the last 24 hours. I put so much work into this so its nice when people are appreciative like you. Cheers from Colorado.
25 years and I can still remember where I was and how I felt that day. After that, I felt terror about being in school and just wanted to graduate the next month.
So heartbreaking, that there are people in our world with so much hate and disregard for human life......
Say her name Rachel joy scott . We almost had a school shooting a kid I knew he was kinda odd but so were we 🤍 everytime I saw him I gave him the biggest hug ever asked him if he got any new Pokemon cards. I’d his weekend went welll and we should hang out soon .. I meant it every word . A few weeks later me and my best friend were on MySpace we saw a hit list. I knew everyone on that list. We told our parents they didn’t listen to us.. principal didn’t care not until her perfect sons told her . The morning that it was going to happen we searched high and low to tell him don’t throw your life away. We didn’t cache up with him but he was bullied heavily.
Hello Jeremy
😇 My Step-dad, Teacher and Coach Dave Sanders was murdered at Columbine High school 🚸 along with 12 students!! ❤
💯 The Columbine is the Colorado State flower and illegal to pick!! ✌ #davesandersstepdaughter
Deepest condolences to you and your family. May your stepfathers legacy never dim.
Thanks for serving our country I love the story you tell I just subscribed love from Columbus Ohio
Eric and Dylan did not "kill the majority of the people in the library." At least 30 escaped when they left to go back down to the cafeteria. They killed 10 in the library and in total there may have been at least 50 in the library when the shooting began. They did injure quite a few too. At any rate, these two were only 3 weeks away from graduation. All they had to do was stick it out three more weeks and they chose this. Just horrific.
I meant the most people who were killed happened to be in the library. There were def more people outside of there. But no doubt super sad they wasted their life just a few short weeks of graduation.
The most frustrating part is that they could’ve graduated and left that school behind. Graduation was literally around the corner but they couldn’t wait and committed that tragedy.
I know. They assumed their whole lives would be like high school, but its not. Sure, life has its ups and downs but I'm sure things would eventually get better for them.
Luvox was the anti depressant. He applied to the Marines but they found out he was on meds. They shot him down, so he took it bad.
He used to go on and off it to build up rage. Going on and off an SSRI is such a *bad* idea.
@@thethrowawaythatstayed7055 Yeah not good. I know a few people that have taken Lithium, it is scary to watch when they go off and on that.
It was planned before he was rejected from the Marines
From what I have read, Eric fucked around with his medication by not taking it regularly. With that being said though, I personally know of people who have been on antidepressants that were very fucked up by them.
@@laurenmacneill1617 How do you explain Dylan? He wasn't on any meds......And the small dose Eric was on had nothing to do with the plans to blow up the school and kill
Can’t believe this was 25 years ago. I remember this well. I’m 43 now.
Dude don't put a drone up around his parents house. They deserve privacy. Nobody needs to see where they lived.
They moved away years ago.
Bullying wasnt really the reason they did it. I dont even think they were bullied that much. They pretty much just had a hatred of the mundane parts of life like going to school etc. Plus their love for the game doom that they wanted to act out in real life.
Columbine is a scary word.i don’t know why but i guess because it happened when i was in elementary school so my whole life has been nothing but horror attached to it
Same thing with Waco. Whenever I’m up around that area, I get a bad feeling.
I was leaving Kings Soopers near Coal Mine when this happened... I think everyone at the time that someone from outside the school was harassing students ... the concept of school shooting was not even concept.
Not a time I drive by that I don't reflect back on that April morning.
I was Bullied my entire life because I have muscular dystrophy and couldn’t move as fast as the other kids could and never once pulled a gun on someone you have to be better than the bullies
I don’t care who you are, there’s absolutely NO excuse you can give for shooting up a school and hurting innocents..
Speak for yourself 🤓 🖕
You are a great storyteller! I'm looking forward to checking out more of your videos! 😊 sending my best wishes from Scotland 🏴
Thanks so much! 😊Really appreciate it. I should have more stuff coming soon. This story I did is also crazy czcams.com/video/Sg7sg_h6OwU/video.html
Dylan’s Parents didn’t live out there his whole life. They bought that house when the kids were still fairly young though when fixed it up. It was in poor condition when they purchased it. Dylan’s mom is Jewish.
Just a heads up. I’m not sure if anyone mentioned it but when you were going over the history of other shootings, you said it was the University of Virginia that had the shooting. That’s incorrect. It was Virginia Teach where the Korean student carried out the shooting. A totally different school hours away from UVA.
Yes, my bad. When I'm walking and talking I make some mistakes. I knew it was the one in Blacksburg because I had stopped there when I hiked the Appalachian trail but I mistaken the name.
@@Ramblingroads No worries! Just thought I’d point it out. I can see how it can get mixed up both having Virginia in the name.
If only they made Byrna backpack armor during that time, there would not be that much casualties because the backpack armor would of protected the students from pistol rounds and shotgun rounds.
You're talking about high school in the intro like it doesn't matter, but it definitely does.
Now as a disclaimer, I'm not justifying anyone doing anything violent. Anyone who commits an atrocity like this is a monster.
I remember a lot of things from elementary school through high school. I was bullied a lot, and not just by the kids. It's easy to say that "it doesn't matter" after you grow up, but it absolutely does. When your formative years were spent being beat up, having your stuff stolen, being made fun of every day by kids and teachers, and not having a place to go where you felt safe, it affects you in a very deep and profound way. Even at 33, I still struggle a lot with feelings of worthlessness and hopelessness because that's what I felt every day as a child, and I grew up feeling that it was normal to feel that way all the time. I still have difficulty having conversations with people and almost never approach anyone I don't know for help. It's not something that can always be brushed off so easily.
As an adult you can look back at things like that and assume they were insignificant, but when you're that kid, it's not. This is why it's so important for parents to teach their kids to not be terrible to other kids. Sometimes, the kid you're picking on has more going on than you think, and if they're really bad off they can turn into a real monster. Most of them don't, but that doesn't mean that the ones who didn't aren't still dealing with the aftereffects of everything they went through. You can't rely on the school to protect those kids, because they've proven time and again that they are incapable of doing so. In my case, they not only didn't help, but they also made it worse with every action they took.
Parents, please for the love of God raise your kids to be good people. Pay attention to them. Be involved. Don't let this shit continue to happen.
I was bullied in school all my life and I never had killing other kids run in my head. It's so sad
Highschool was my Miserable years heartbreak , raging hormones , losing my loved ones. Highschool sucked man 🥺