Ranking Every Starship Enterprise from Worst to Best

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  • @Spacedock
    @Spacedock  Před 2 lety +140

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    • @yashroy7424
      @yashroy7424 Před 2 lety

      Gonna do an expanse trailer breakdown video??

    • @merkarion7883
      @merkarion7883 Před 2 lety +2

      I am absolutely your opinion that the Excelsior Refit (Enterprise-B) looks better as the original Excelsior Design ;)

    • @Ushio01
      @Ushio01 Před 2 lety +6

      Disappointed that the Enterprise D refit from the final TNG episode isn't featured.

    • @zoberraz
      @zoberraz Před 2 lety +1

      I could've predicted your #1 favorite was the Enterprise-E. the rest was a pleasant surprise; also nice to see your reasonings for how the other ships stood out positively or negatively. :)
      You did not include the Enterprise-F that Star Trek Online introduced. I was curious to know if you had any opinion on it. Though, if you were sponsored by STFC... probably hard to refer to a ship that's from a different game than theirs (and that they possibly don't have licence to include in their game).

    • @David-jt9nt
      @David-jt9nt Před 2 lety

      i stand with with you on everything except the NX was my favorite for me it would be a clean move from 5 to 1 with everything just shifting down. IDK why but I liked it the best

  • @jonathanayres6005
    @jonathanayres6005 Před 2 lety +575

    The Sovereign Class Enterprise is gorgeous, from the hull exterior to the layout of the bridge. The bridge design, now over 25 years, still looks modern and sleek today, can't fault it.

    • @michelseibriger12
      @michelseibriger12 Před 2 lety +26

      Agreed- looking back, the effects in the battle of the Basin Rift of Star Trek Nemesis aged like a fine wine, in no small part due to seeing the Sovereign

    • @roaldjeanstorbank1351
      @roaldjeanstorbank1351 Před 2 lety +13

      The first time I saw it on screen, I hated it... I was expecting a beefed up Galaxy and I felt the E was a fat looking crap pile.
      In time however, I have come to Love it, especially once I started realizing how they designed it (the Warship over Love-boat design)

    • @fuzzyduck2682
      @fuzzyduck2682 Před 2 lety +9

      25 years!!!! thanks for making me feel older than the ark! ..... jeeeez

    • @CaptRicoSakara
      @CaptRicoSakara Před 2 lety +6

      For me, the first version of the Sovereign Bridge, with the Holo-Viewscreen and dim lighting was the overall BEST design. It pissed me off that they removed the holo-screen with a small, Voyager-like view screen and brighten up the lighting in the later two films - those two didn't work for me. Screw you, behind-the-scenes budget costs! XP

    • @00nick7
      @00nick7 Před 2 lety +3

      Agreed!

  • @libbydibbydoo
    @libbydibbydoo Před 2 lety +274

    I love the NX01, especially how manual it all is. You have to open doors with a button, and step over thresholds like in a sub. The texture is amazing, with all those individual labeled panels. The pilot uses a joystick. And the grappler, my favorite low tech weapon. Of all of the Ents, the NX01 felt the most high stakes and fragile, just right for humanity’s first foray into space.

    • @SportyMabamba
      @SportyMabamba Před 2 lety +11

      Similar technology vibe to the 2000s remake of Battlestar Galactica, doors and thresholds and buttons 😁

    • @filthycasual8187
      @filthycasual8187 Před 2 lety +9

      @@SportyMabamba Funny you should mention that. They came out at around roughly the same time; at the very least they were contemporaries of one another.

    • @a.tiberiusk4725
      @a.tiberiusk4725 Před rokem +5

      I so agree it’s like how Tom Paris had his shuttle with knobs, and lever’s.

    • @AlistairAi
      @AlistairAi Před rokem +4

      Star Trek Enterprise was so slept on it’s sad

    • @SumDumGy
      @SumDumGy Před rokem

      @@AlistairAi Slept on?

  • @zeekfarrongaming5302
    @zeekfarrongaming5302 Před 2 lety +168

    Even though it isn’t canon, I absolutely love the Odyssey class Enterprise F from Star Trek Online and is probably my favorite in all of Star Trek

    • @KevinMcClelland1701
      @KevinMcClelland1701 Před 2 lety +28

      Actually the Odyssey and Yorktown are canon due to being featured in the canon Star Trek Picard tie-in graphic novel Prelude. It clearly shows Picard and Raffi being in command of the U.S.S. Verity. I just checked and its not listed on memory alpha but it is on memory beta. I believe any books published since Discovery are now canon. But i do very specifically recall especially the picard prelude was canon to season 1 of Picard. If i can find any links to support this, i will try and update this comment with them, for now a pinch of salt I guess. Cheers!

    • @flood256
      @flood256 Před 2 lety

      no memory alpha entry on the verity so hard to say, (i know it's a fan wiki but it's generally kept up to date on things considered canon)

    • @neilsonnentag917
      @neilsonnentag917 Před 2 lety +5

      In my world I'll consider the enterprise-f cannon before I ever consider the enterprise-j or any of the j.j. prizes

    • @NotThatGuy_YepThatGuy
      @NotThatGuy_YepThatGuy Před 2 lety

      I like the Odyssey class, but not as an Enterprise. Good on ya though

    • @HHHTheGame01
      @HHHTheGame01 Před rokem +8

      Well, wish granted... it looks absolutely stunning in that one shot too. Looking forward to seeing it in action.

  • @Magnogen
    @Magnogen Před 2 lety +140

    YES! "The Blue Hue of Doom" is such a good way to describe the space scenes of Discovery. I will definitely use that in the future!

    • @johnbockelie3899
      @johnbockelie3899 Před 2 lety

      The crew of Enterprise J have their own personal vehicles to drive around from deck to deck.

    • @johnbockelie3899
      @johnbockelie3899 Před 2 lety

      JJ Enterprise has its own brewery.

    • @johnbockelie3899
      @johnbockelie3899 Před 2 lety

      Originally the Galaxy class was built during the " Glory" days of the Federation when their ego was big. They believed the Galaxy was at peace , and optimism was big. Then came the new enemies.
      The Galaxy class had to prove her worth in New battles.

    • @johnbockelie3899
      @johnbockelie3899 Před 2 lety +2

      That shot of every ship showing up at once. " Captain Kirk, .....the Enterprise is the only ship in the quadrant."
      They only wanted Kirk to quit lounging around in the movies.
      In Picard, we see that star fleet had plenty of other ships on hand.

    • @esecallum
      @esecallum Před rokem

      yes the lighting was crap...dark blue neon dark blurry. hazy depressing.

  • @MethodSkeptic
    @MethodSkeptic Před 2 lety +134

    My favorite thing about the NX class is just how much it cuts the silhouette of a Constitution class from so many angles but then the camera moves or it changes course and it suddenly reveals that it’s an entirely distinct construction. I never get tired of that.

    • @KMCA779
      @KMCA779 Před 2 lety +13

      Agreed. While there are aspects of the NX I don't particularly like I will say that as a pre-Federation, purely Earth design it's perfect. Plus it has my absolute favorite warp core.

    • @thomasbranch3826
      @thomasbranch3826 Před 2 lety +9

      I really like the NX class it looks like it was the predecessor to the Tos constitution class ships.

    • @irregularassassin6380
      @irregularassassin6380 Před 2 lety +9

      I like how the NX looks like it's a tool that's barely going to be up to the task, and then you see it in its element and you realize that it's not the best ship we've ever seen, but it's all that it's crew will ever need. It can scan well enough, fly fast enough, take enough of a beating to let its crew handle the job and get back to exploring.
      It's a leading-edge, all-rounder, workhorse with a supercharged engine and a powerful scanner packed into a durable chassis. What more do you want? A holodeck? Nah, son, we've got a projector and a shit-ton of popcorn, we're good.

    • @virginiaconnor8350
      @virginiaconnor8350 Před 2 lety +2

      @@thomasbranch3826 It was more realistic in being a pre-1701 ship than the too modern JJ Abrams and Discovery ships. Having grown up watching "TOS", I wouldn't expect the ship in the first JJ Abrams to immediately follow the NX-01.

    • @filthycasual8187
      @filthycasual8187 Před 2 lety

      @@virginiaconnor8350 According to the comics, it didn't. There was another Enterprise commanded by Captain Robert April that more closely resembled the TOS Enterprise before the Kelvin Timeline Enterprise was built.

  • @raptor050
    @raptor050 Před 2 lety +484

    Agreed. The Sovereign Class Enterprise has to be one of the most elegant Federation Starship design. It's beauty matches its ferocity in the Battlefield of Starships.

    • @pjduker05
      @pjduker05 Před 2 lety +9

      If the future holds ships like this for us it would be a huge mistake and missed opportunity to not build the real thing. Like the way they build modern cars with 50s and 60s designs esthetics. And in an era where form no longer has to follow function. Why not right?

    • @johnathanbutler7718
      @johnathanbutler7718 Před 2 lety

      I agree with you on the B looking better then the og excelsior. But the sovereign is roughly the same size as the galaxy while it is shorter deckwise its longer

    • @emperorgizmo3014
      @emperorgizmo3014 Před 2 lety +5

      @@johnathanbutler7718 it's not that much longer and the D as way more internal volume. If I were on a five year mission I want the Galaxy Class. If I were going into battle, no question the Sovereign is what you stand the best chance with.🙂👍

    • @emperorgizmo3014
      @emperorgizmo3014 Před 2 lety

      @@kobayashimaru8114 there's no reason why it can't be both.

    • @johnathanbutler7718
      @johnathanbutler7718 Před 2 lety +3

      @@emperorgizmo3014 that's likely true but the size isn't that signicant. The crew of the E was around 700 and we never see family onboard (though it likely did have families on board after the dominion war) the D had a total crew complement of around 1000 including families. Also I don't know where this notion that the galaxy was weak or somehow just a huge luxury liner. She was still the premier starship of the line and sent out when starfleet need to make a show of strength. I think people missed the point of the Odyssey being destroyed by the dominion in DS9

  • @hajkie
    @hajkie Před 2 lety +35

    I think galaxy class must be my favorite, just because of how much over the 7 years we get to explore over it. The ship becomes so personal somehow.

  • @shmehfleh3115
    @shmehfleh3115 Před rokem +34

    I'm surprised the roided-out Enterprise from All Good Things didn't get a mention. There's something endearingly over-the-top about its third grafted-on nacelle and the giant guns mounted on the saucer. It's like something a 12-year-old me would've drawn in math class.

    • @TheTransporter007
      @TheTransporter007 Před 11 měsíci +4

      Roided out is probably the most underrated way to describe the 1701-D from that episode. 🤣

    • @kaseyboles30
      @kaseyboles30 Před 4 měsíci

      That third nacelle was a bad idea. The underslung cannon was good though. That and a cloak alone were enough to sell it as a major refit version.

  • @Mirage_Mach5
    @Mirage_Mach5 Před 2 lety +237

    I've always thought the Enterprise Refit/-A were the most beautiful versions of the Enterprise. The least elegant was the Enterprise-J.

    • @michaelwhiles5282
      @michaelwhiles5282 Před 2 lety +13

      Agreed - they reached a design peak - so well balanced - frankly the JJ & TRASH trek ships are just that - TRASH - the J stands for JOKE.....however I quite liked the NX too..

    • @IchigoKurosakicool
      @IchigoKurosakicool Před 2 lety +6

      @@michaelwhiles5282 Uhm, J is from the original TV series and not Kelvin Timeline. JJprise is as beautiful as some other ships you'd see, people have preferences so just calling things trash isn't the way, and there's a ton more ships in kelvin timeline that looks phenomenal.

    • @cobracommander2778
      @cobracommander2778 Před 2 lety +5

      @@michaelwhiles5282 the js stand for JAR JAR abrams.

    • @cobracommander2778
      @cobracommander2778 Před 2 lety +5

      @@IchigoKurosakicool hello joke....the only good thing to be said about anything from the jjverse is that its not a bad as std and star tp and anything else from the even bigger piece of garbage than jar jar abrams kirkman.

    • @cobracommander2778
      @cobracommander2778 Před 2 lety +3

      @@IchigoKurosakicool oh and the enterprise J is NOT from the original series. It is from enterprise. No wonder u like jarjarverse.

  • @cliffcorson4000
    @cliffcorson4000 Před 2 lety +223

    The enterprise-B style looks like a warship version of the Excelsior class. The flaring around the nacelles and deflector dish look like extra armor plating

    • @seanmccarthy7591
      @seanmccarthy7591 Před 2 lety +12

      All that extra plating didn't help Kirk much though did it?

    • @joshuahadams
      @joshuahadams Před 2 lety +15

      Calling back to torpedo bulges in battleships, eh?

    • @cliffcorson4000
      @cliffcorson4000 Před 2 lety +54

      @@seanmccarthy7591 that's because his plot armor wasn't due till tuesday

    • @cliffcorson4000
      @cliffcorson4000 Před 2 lety

      @@joshuahadams basically
      If you also look at it as what was done with the T-34 Russian tanks with the sloped armor could help deflect impacts so that if a torpedo were fired at the nacelles or defector dish areas it could restrict damage

    • @Th0ughtf0rce
      @Th0ughtf0rce Před 2 lety +3

      To me it’s the long-range exploration or command version. Meant to serve as a small base of operations in uncharted regions or the frontline. Even as a light carrier in a pinch. The extra volume was for added shuttle/secondary craft capacity and the extra impulse engines to compensate for the extra mass.

  • @andersonic
    @andersonic Před 2 lety +71

    Strange New Worlds has proven you right. They improved the Discovery model and shoot it with gorgeous angles and lighting. It feels very physical and every shot is like a celebration of the TOS aesthetic.

    • @thomgizziz
      @thomgizziz Před rokem +1

      You are high and this video creator is proving more and more how little people should listen to him.

  • @JezOnYT88
    @JezOnYT88 Před 2 lety +17

    i love the fact you gave a big thumbs up to the NX enterprise. i love the style of it because it has the vibe of starting off as a star fairing race. AND i love the fact that First Contact has an NX in the display cabinet, nice little recognition of the series

  • @jamesgates5375
    @jamesgates5375 Před 2 lety +92

    NCC-1701-A, from ST IV, V, and VI. Hands down. Even though it's pretty much identical to the Refit from TMP, there's no denying how iconic this design is, and how beautiful it looks. This will always be my favorite of all the Enterprise designs.

    • @AT2Productions
      @AT2Productions Před 2 lety +3

      Externally, other than a color update for ST:VI, the A is the same as the refit from ST:TMP/II/III.

    • @GoonerJim1
      @GoonerJim1 Před 2 lety +3

      The way the A was shot in VI was fantastic, best rendition of the Enterprise for me

    • @Restitutor_Orbis_214
      @Restitutor_Orbis_214 Před 2 lety +1

      Totally agree it's the most beautiful Enterprise of all designs and most iconic.

    • @katherineberger6329
      @katherineberger6329 Před 2 lety +1

      @@AT2Productions In fact it's the same model just with the NCC-1701 decaling rotated slightly and a "-A" added.

  • @mikehendon7327
    @mikehendon7327 Před 2 lety +116

    Connie refit will forever be a hard one to beat, for me. The art-deco nacelles, the angles and lines, the way she seems to gleam like sails catching the sun.
    Excelsior Refit was always my close second, and yeah, very much took the original Excelsior and made it better.

    • @blackc1479
      @blackc1479 Před 2 lety +3

      Yeah, I was tossed up between the refit and the e for #1. The e is super well designed, and absolutely beautiful, but the refit, to me at least was when st got real. I'd call it more iconic than tos personally. Like Daniel noted, tos did look like a toy, and seeing the refit in the theater was just awesome. Personally I always love the pearl in the paint, and the advent of aztecing.

    • @noneya3635
      @noneya3635 Před 2 lety +1

      Agreed, I do think it's hilarious that when talking about the sturdiness of the Excelsior that he shows one beat to sht in the DS9 battle for Cardasia.

    • @Z1gguratVert1go
      @Z1gguratVert1go Před 2 lety +1

      @@noneya3635 Lasting 100 years is a kind of sturdiness, and bigger ships were getting spanked just as easily.
      But yeah it is funny.

    • @creampop8553
      @creampop8553 Před 2 lety +1

      I won't lie, it's a gorgeous ship. But there are some parts I don't like. The neck torpedo bays, the impulse bay. Sorta miss the big gold dish. But they don't completely ruin the ship.

    • @benbunch4159
      @benbunch4159 Před 2 lety +3

      Connie refit in its final outing in Stat Trek VI is top to bottom gorgeous inside and out.

  • @WilliamHBaird-eq2hp
    @WilliamHBaird-eq2hp Před 2 lety +32

    I agree with you... The "Strange New Worlds" Enterprise is beautiful indeed!

  • @Alex-Rocks
    @Alex-Rocks Před 2 lety +17

    Some surprises, but no complaints!
    Love the Sovereign Class, def my favourite Star fleet ship Design!
    Also, I'm thankfull the NX- Class gets some well deserved love, it's such a great looking early stage Enterprise- esque ship...
    Only change I'd make would be to rank the KTL ships higher, these are just gorgeous in my opinion!

  • @thecommuterzombie
    @thecommuterzombie Před 2 lety +140

    You're not alone in liking the B and the E. Something about the no nonsense chunkiness of the Excelsior class has always appealed to me and the Ent-B really perfected the look of that class for me. The Sovereign just feels right as a post Dominion War Federation capital ship and manages to look both sleek and powerful.

    • @GeeVanderplas
      @GeeVanderplas Před 2 lety +6

      Excelsior is my favorite class, but I thought the added bits on the B took away a bit from the elegance of the design. But still a beautiful ship!

    • @bitharne
      @bitharne Před 2 lety +2

      @@GeeVanderplas I find the opposite. I think the excelsior looks derpy without the B-refit. Always have. The secondary hull slopping down looks odd outside of the Sovereign (which has matching curves to tie it in) 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @JaredLS10
      @JaredLS10 Před 2 lety

      The Excelsior refit just looks better to me but it also makes more sense, the addition to the nacelles which I can only assume were basard collectors is an upgrade to the original nacelles that just seemed out of place to me considering we had seen two previous types of nacelles with basard collectors and all of a sudden we don't. Having a flared out secondary hull fits as it guard the deflector dish better.

    • @henriqueulbrichoficial
      @henriqueulbrichoficial Před 2 lety

      You are all mad!
      The Excelsior is an ugly piece of clunky junk! It's a ball with a disc! How can you find it appealing?

  • @TheBabaloga
    @TheBabaloga Před 2 lety +143

    Just want to put in a word for the original Constitution design:
    I won't disagree that the texturing and detailing has aged significantly, but I like the shape of the TOS constitution more than any subsequent enterprise, even subsequent constitutions. The straight nacelle pylons and forward-leaning neck give it this proud, swan-like posture that versions of the design with swept pylons lose. It has a stark simplicity in its shape language that I find compelling.
    Also the generally thin and spindly nature of it is a big plus for me. It's retroactively evocative of things like the ISS and feels more like a true space exploration vehicle than any of it's successors IMO.

    • @davfree9732
      @davfree9732 Před 2 lety +14

      Aye. The original Connie laid the foundation for ship design that, sadly, feels like its becoming standardized to other space shows when Trek pretty much stood out with their bold yet cinematically appealing choice of design. You can take a picture anywhere and it will look good.
      By comparison you photo the Voyager and your pretty much relegated to above and under shots since the ship has no strong presence along it's flattest plane.

    • @ericmadsen7470
      @ericmadsen7470 Před 2 lety +14

      No other design of starship beats the simplicity of the TOS Enterprise.
      It's sleek and easy on the eyes.
      I also like the Constitution class refit. Very good and streamlined and is a worthy successor to the TOS Enterprise.

    • @deusexaethera
      @deusexaethera Před 2 lety +2

      The straight nacelle pylons on the TOS Enterprise look like they would snap off the very first time the ship had to make a hard turn.

    • @forgilageord
      @forgilageord Před 2 lety +3

      To me, the straight pylons completely negate the balance and swiftness suggested by the swept forward neck. It comes as something of a visual shock every time I see it, like a sentence that ends too soon. It makes the ship look front heavy, in my opinion.

    • @mattwho81
      @mattwho81 Před 2 lety +8

      Enterprise-A was the most beautiful version of all.

  • @filthycasual8187
    @filthycasual8187 Před 2 lety +18

    I'd have to say, I'm a fan of pretty much any Enterprise without letters at the end of its registry number. While the D was my first, I'm more partial to the NX-01 and the NCC-1701 for their practicality in design. NX-01 especially looks like one we could build and fly today if money (and figuring out the propulsion system) weren't an issue.

    • @davidlentz4600
      @davidlentz4600 Před 2 lety +2

      As Scotty said in the Star Trek: The Next Generation episode "Relics": "No A, B, C, or D!"

    • @thomgizziz
      @thomgizziz Před rokem

      We could fly any of them... do you think they fly through the air? You can fly a brick in space and it wouldnt matter... smh

  • @commanderjaw
    @commanderjaw Před rokem +3

    I think this is perhaps the best ranking video I've ever seen. Informative, fair and straight to the point. ^_^

  • @seanc9401
    @seanc9401 Před 2 lety +263

    You’re not the only person who loves the Enterprise-B. The Enterprise B is my second favorite Enteprise (E being my all time favorite) and it DOES look better than the original Excelsior.

    • @lnsyt5282
      @lnsyt5282 Před 2 lety +6

      I think the original is better but i still share you opinon

    • @davidestep2912
      @davidestep2912 Před 2 lety +3

      AMEN!

    • @SeanPFoster
      @SeanPFoster Před 2 lety +3

      Same, I love the Enterprise-B.

    • @JaredLS10
      @JaredLS10 Před 2 lety +3

      Same, always liked they added bussard collectors on the nacelles, looks way better then the full on wrap around blue.

    • @steelchaffinch12
      @steelchaffinch12 Před 2 lety +1

      Adore the Enterprise B and totally agree with it being an improved Excelsior model.

  • @Sumaire_STi
    @Sumaire_STi Před 2 lety +123

    Spacedock - The one thing I would be curious to hear is what your thoughts are on the "All Good Things..." future Enterprise-D, in terms of where it would come on this list. Would it just be roped in with the standard Enterprise-D, or would it actually be in a different place on the list?
    Otherwise, I think this is a great list and everything makes sense. Rock on, mate.

    • @Tiglath-Pileser3
      @Tiglath-Pileser3 Před 2 lety +7

      Was going to ask the same. Old game I played referred to it as the "Galaxy-X" class, but I doubt that is canon.

    • @Zadkiel862
      @Zadkiel862 Před 2 lety +7

      I wonder if it wasn't included because "technically" it never existed. It was from a potential timeline, but never actually existed, while all the other ships technically have. I think he included KTL stuff because those, while being movies, were still fleshed out and existed. The other part of its exclusion arises from the fact that the D is on this list, so the alternate reality version is included in that, although not mentioned.
      I can see the argument though, that since Kelvin stuff was included, alternate future stuff should be too.

    • @CicadaAppreciationSociety
      @CicadaAppreciationSociety Před 2 lety +3

      Yeah, I think it would be pretty low on the list now, but when this episode aired I was 14 and thought it was so cool.

    • @nunya3163
      @nunya3163 Před 2 lety +6

      @@Tiglath-Pileser3 The Galaxy X upgrade is canon, just not prime timeline.

    • @Sumaire_STi
      @Sumaire_STi Před 2 lety +1

      @@Zadkiel862 To be fair, he also mentioned the NX-class upgrade with the secondary hull, which was never canonized (bloody beautiful it may be--yes, I own the Eaglemoss special edition of it, haha!), and that's what actually got me thinking about the Galaxy-X/upgrade. I figure it would probably be looped in with the regular Galaxy, but some people (like myself) actually like the proportions better with the high-mount third nacelle. I never really cared for the nacelles mounted so much lower than the (gigantic/oversized) saucer, myself, and while I prefer nacelles in even numbers, I feel that the third high-mount nacelle solves the overall proportion issue.

  • @trevormcwilliams7578
    @trevormcwilliams7578 Před 2 lety +9

    The original is in the Smithsonian and she has always been the most beautiful of ladies. The first glimpse of the 'new' Enterprise in TMP was also incredible.

  • @matthewgumabon7498
    @matthewgumabon7498 Před 2 lety +1

    I think what’s really cool about Star Trek is that since it has lasted so many generations, inevitably there will be different eras of fans that entered the franchise through different series and with their respective Enterprises’.
    Being a younger fan in my mid-20s, I never watched TOS, watched many reruns of TNG, and some reruns of Star Trek Enterprise. But honestly, I really got into Star Trek from 2009 JJ-verse Star Trek and forward.
    I loved the cinematic, modern look of it, the younger actors, and its version of the first Enterprise is just damn beautiful to me. And since it’s an alternate timeline it doesn’t really step on the work of past series or mess with future canon.

  • @Blacky123B52
    @Blacky123B52 Před 2 lety +65

    I’m just glad that NX-1 got so high on the list, as my love for Star Trek started with this ship.

  • @mitwhitgaming7722
    @mitwhitgaming7722 Před 2 lety +85

    The Galaxy Class is my favorite. It perfectly encapsulates the exploration, diplomatic and the defensive facets of Star Fleet.

    • @DaiKam84
      @DaiKam84 Před 2 lety +2

      Totally

    • @tastycheddar7958
      @tastycheddar7958 Před 2 lety +5

      And I would add the alternate timeline Enterprise D refit with the third nacelle and big fuck-off phaser cannon.

    • @pjduker05
      @pjduker05 Před 2 lety +7

      I'd say it does that. But only for its time. For that era of Trek it's perfect in every way. He said it in the video. Like a luxurious cruise ship that just happens to have great weapons as a side feature. Like if I had to go to war, then give me the E all day long. But if I'm doing the Enterprise's main mission, seeking out new life and new civilizations, doing that long term deep space exploration kind of work? Yeah I'd much rather have D and have my wife and son on board and have a nice bar kind of place and civilian activities for us to do. You need a break from work and I garuntee E never got any complaints about the lack of comfort on board. Well when the ship wasn't in danger anyway, lol

    • @steemlenn8797
      @steemlenn8797 Před 2 lety +5

      @@pjduker05 Yes, If you design a ship for "to boldly go", that's the Galaxy. Not the timid "every step is new" of Archer's ship, but the "we may not know what we will find, but we have a lot of experience with unknown and are well equipped, so let's go" feel.

    • @pjduker05
      @pjduker05 Před 2 lety +4

      @@steemlenn8797 100 my friend! And while the Galaxys certainly get a lot of hate for being a "flying 5 star hotel", let's be honest. Is that really something to complain about? I mean unless you're a Klingon I'd think you would want nice soft carpets and luxurious living quarters over metal bulk heads and a nice "clank clank clank" sound everytime you walk across your tiny metal bunk room. How about we ask our modern sailors? What's that? You'd rather be on a Carnival Cruise Ship than a Navy Fleet Tanker? Room service is better than 3 room mates to your section of hallway bunks on that Ohio class submarine? Go figure! Lol
      Admittedly though, I'd still probably settle with E. The sovereign is still plenty of luxurious enough by any normal standards and if my wife and kid were to be on board with me, then perhaps it would be nice to know the ship can handle anything. And I mean like we don't even worry about a Borg Cube. In fact we all rush to a forward view port to watch the quantum torpedoes be fired. "Wow Daddy look!" "Yes son. Those mechanical monsters are about to have a really bad day."

  • @michaelkantner6420
    @michaelkantner6420 Před 2 lety +4

    I agree with you 100% about the Enterprise B. I liked how the Excelsior Class of starship looked, but to me it looked like they upgraded everything about it when they made the Enterprise B. It seemed to me that they were trying to streamline the exterior so that it would be able to more easily navigate transwarp.

  • @deadmilkman121
    @deadmilkman121 Před 2 lety

    Oh man the battle zone 2 music at the beginning is so unbelievably nostalgic to me. Thanks for that.

  • @dog3y3
    @dog3y3 Před 2 lety +38

    NX-01 was my favorite, especially for it's era. it felt like the submarines of WWII with pipes exposed, or un-smooth hallways, equipment sitting out in the middle of hallways, and the engine room felt like an engine room and not a disco or storage bay.

    • @tsamoka6496
      @tsamoka6496 Před 2 lety +11

      Funnily enough, a submarine is actually the best design type for a realistic spaceship. They function nearly identically to space craft and the only real differences are the propulsion/maneuvering and how the pressure hull and hatches are designed and reinforced. Space hulls and doors keep pressure in, while sub hulls/doors keep pressure out. Of course, having windows in a spaceship is also a little easier then in a sub! ;) If we ever built real spaceships, the best people to pick as crew and command for them would be submariners. =^x^=

    • @loganmartin2794
      @loganmartin2794 Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah, it really feels like they just went "Well, submarines already have all the stuff we need for a ship, a pressurized hull, bulkheads, reinforcements. Let's just strap engines on it and put it in space. Done."
      It's also why I liked the ship designs from the Wing Commander movie.

  • @atatreet
    @atatreet Před 2 lety +41

    thinking about that scene from picard where the fleet appears, and about how just, a single sovereign jumping in, shown on camera from that view flying over the camera, would have been far more of a 'you're in trouble now, the fleet is here' moment than copy pasted ships from far away, the sovereign shown with fluid, close in shots is far more powerful on camera and feels like it would genuinely be scary to most potential hostiles

    • @Uzarran
      @Uzarran Před 2 lety +6

      You are 100% correct. That fleet needed way more beef to it.
      Though, I'd actually have preferred a three-nacelle Galaxy-class instead of the E, or at least in addition to. It might be more thematically appropriate, given Picard should be lining up with All Good Things.

    • @KMCA779
      @KMCA779 Před 2 lety +2

      Especially if it was flying the 1701-E hull number. That's the ship that destroyed the Scimitar after all.

    • @cloudwatcher608
      @cloudwatcher608 Před 2 lety +3

      I enjoyed a lot of Picard, but that scene was such a slap in the face to the fandom. We would have preferred 10 appropriate and beautiful ships, new and old classes mixed, to the poorly designed and rendered copy/pasted 100 ships we got.
      It’s so frustrating that these show makers don’t realize that we prefer spectacle over scope. Not every story line has to be a threat to the entire galaxy to be interesting, and neither does a fleet need 100 new ships.

  • @tbrdmann
    @tbrdmann Před 5 měsíci +1

    Best thing about the B was it looked HUGE and real. Most CGI ships look about as real as a $3 bill. Refit/A was beautiful.

  • @Devalinor
    @Devalinor Před rokem

    I love that you use the Battlezone 2 main menu music for your intro.
    Oh and the ingame music for your outro.

  • @TheUglyPrimadonna
    @TheUglyPrimadonna Před 2 lety +50

    Galaxy class fanboi here. Maybe because of nostalgia as it was my first exposure to Trek (that together withVoy on Sunday noon TV in Germany during the early noughties) but I just really dig how something that was designed to be futuristic in the eighties still looks modern and yes, futuristic, in this day and age. To me it just aged incredibly well, much better that the TOS era designs. I also love how the warp nacelles are balanced in between the saucer and secondary hull, not stick out far above or below either section - which to me would just be unbalanced for a propulsion system that is needed to move mass in a vacuum

    • @singletona082
      @singletona082 Před 2 lety +1

      I feel they kinda squandered some of the design choices but that's a case of budget and the like more than anything. Still. the Galaxy Class Enterprise really is a grand old girl.

    • @ibamarcel4577
      @ibamarcel4577 Před 2 lety

      Galaxy class is the best looking ship

  • @williamegan6756
    @williamegan6756 Před 2 lety +89

    When I first saw the Sovereign-class Enterprise in First Contact, I gasped in awe - it is just such a thing of beauty! At that time I didn’t think anything could replace my love for the Constitution-class refit we got in the movies, but one glorious shot of the Enterprise E in that nebula blew it all away. Deservedly ranked first for me as well, an none of the others even come close.

    • @singletona082
      @singletona082 Před 2 lety +2

      Connies are such an iconic design. Fine it has flaws (the disc new worlds connie is REALLY growing on me now that i can SEE the fucking thing. Fuck that blue doom lighting. Just.. FUCK THAT...) but like c'mon... It's the connie.

    • @hastekulvaati9681
      @hastekulvaati9681 Před 2 lety +8

      Junkball media has an amazing video about the Sovereign Class. The detail they put into the practical model is mind blowing. The craftsmanship puts the slapped together CGI ships at the end of Picard to shame.

  • @Salisbury2015
    @Salisbury2015 Před 2 lety +4

    I totally agree with this list, and agree that the Enterprise B is an improvement on the original Excelsior design. In fact, the only thing I'd change about this list is that I'd move the Enterprise B to number one in my ranking. Glad to see the NX-01 and Sovereign get a lot of love. I think the J was an interesting premise, and suffered from us not getting to see it in a lot of detail. It's massive size as a city ship fascinated me, and I've always wanted to see more of it.

  • @jakemeyer8188
    @jakemeyer8188 Před 2 lety

    I'm just glad you typed "starships Enterprise" and not "starship Enterprises". That's already a win for you in my book!

  • @TonyTylerDraws
    @TonyTylerDraws Před 2 lety +43

    The Excelsior feels like a B-52; it’s a good platform that newer tech can be retrofitted on. But it’s never taken out of service because hits all the right notes. Like the Miranda class

    • @trekker105
      @trekker105 Před 2 lety +2

      One wonders, then, if there was ever an Old Dog equivalent for the Excelsior.

    • @RoballTV
      @RoballTV Před 2 lety +6

      @@trekker105 Think that's what the Constitution class is meant to be, they directly copy the ship hull formula, they just modernize it. Saucer/neck/secondary hull/pylons/nacelles all in the same places.
      There won't be a TOS style excelsior cos it was specifically designed from the ground up for the 'great experiment'.

    • @JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701
      @JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701 Před 2 lety +2

      Excelsior >>>>Miranda

    • @yoshiforpm
      @yoshiforpm Před 2 lety

      @@trekker105isn’t that basically the Lakota?

    • @cheguevara7478
      @cheguevara7478 Před 2 lety

      Correct but...
      The Miranda WORKS?!

  • @jamesk370
    @jamesk370 Před 2 lety +19

    I really love the NX class. Of all the designs, it is the one that most seems like an actual space ship.

    • @sigbauer9782
      @sigbauer9782 Před 2 lety +4

      It really does. Nothing gimmicky. Uniforms were practical. No magical device to always save them.

    • @sigbauer9782
      @sigbauer9782 Před 2 lety +2

      @Plxsma Edits I think we can agree that ST: E was WAY BETTER than any of the star wars prequels and subsequent movies.

    • @splat-trainproductions
      @splat-trainproductions Před rokem

      @@sigbauer9782 I like the Star Wars prequels, it's the sequels(7-9) that I have a problem with.

  • @cdanielh128
    @cdanielh128 Před 2 lety +1

    well done! I stopped watching the latest shows so did not see the new model of the Constitution. I have to agree with exactly what you said. Its a beautiful ship and lots of detail the couple of glimpses without all the "Blue Hue of Doom" but knew the heat would head that way for messing with it. It seems to fit the time so well. Now I want to go look it up more. And yes, number 1 is your pick. Very thoughtful overall. Again well done!

  • @granudisimo
    @granudisimo Před rokem +1

    Hull polarization is genius because it's how you make technical sense while keeping the "shields up" routine, in a time where the Federation didn't exist and we depended on Vulcan crumbs of developmental leaps.
    It's just an electromagnetic infusion that strengthens the atomic and molecular bonds of hull alloys, and it makes sense to become one of the many built in safety systems in the future, that operate with shields, deflector array shenanigans, and countless other protective redundancies to be expected from over engineering Starfleet.

  • @drksideofthewal
    @drksideofthewal Před 2 lety +35

    The Enterprise-E has always been my favorite Enterprise. You can tell just by looking at it that it’s faster, more powerful, and more sophisticated than any Federation ship that came before.

    • @panicbutton426
      @panicbutton426 Před 2 lety +1

      Except it wasn't fast at all at first. It was much slower than Defiant or Intrepids in First Contact, but when the Ent-E was in spacedock for repairs (ie Borg cleanup) they took all of the Ent's field mods and the mods they h intended to make and revamped the warp core (the problem was not the engines it was power generation, Sovereign was a nonstop power hog when it was new, Enterprise' crew largely solved the problems at least in theory). After the warp core upgrade it surpassed everything but Prometheus (and tied Defiant at 9.985 emergency warp).

  • @ZedanB
    @ZedanB Před 2 lety +13

    Personally my favorite will always be NX-01 Enterprise, because of the realistic (as much as possible) design, as it's similar to something we could make some time in the near future.

    • @virginiaconnor8350
      @virginiaconnor8350 Před 2 lety

      My only question is how did they get Ericsson's wheelchair everywhere if they had those hatches in the doorways? I'm guessing they didn't have them everywhere? I loved the uniforms better in "STE" than in "TOS". My brother served in the US Navy in the early-mid '70s and served on an Enterprise. I have a patch from a shirt of his and went aboard a ship he served on: the USS Savannah: AOR-4 in '70. I wish there was a starship by that name in "Star Trek".

  • @nghtlfe
    @nghtlfe Před 2 lety +1

    Big ups for putting the NX-01 so high on the list! I think your #1 choice is accurate. When they brought out Voyager is was a real "aha" moment I think for ST ship design and the Ent-E cribs the best parts of Voyagers design and runs with them.
    Also I'm in love with the visual reboot of the Disco Constitution class! The bridge looks amazing and the ship itself looks so well updated, like they learned from the Kelvin-verse missteps.

  • @wrockage
    @wrockage Před 2 lety

    great commentary, thanks for sharing!

  • @keithasaur0
    @keithasaur0 Před 2 lety +44

    NX-01 is my personal favorite. I also loved the whole aesthetic and feel of the show, which extends to the ship design. Since it was smaller and more lived in, I developed a personal connection to many of its areas, such as the mess hall and bridge.

    • @KMCA779
      @KMCA779 Před 2 lety +4

      I liked how we even got to know about some of the crew, it made times when they killed a named background character like Crewman Fuller actually mean something.

  • @ItsNanino
    @ItsNanino Před 2 lety +33

    I think tbh the Enterprise-E is one of the most beautiful starships in media period.

    • @gaffawebber
      @gaffawebber Před 2 lety +2

      Agree. That and Voyager.

    • @mattp1337
      @mattp1337 Před 2 lety +2

      @@gaffawebber Voyager's only mis-step was those articulated nacelle pylons. IIRC, it wasn't the first design to blend the saucer and engineering hulls, but it bent the rules of Federation design and paved the way for the Sovereign and so many other great designs.

    • @gaffawebber
      @gaffawebber Před 2 lety

      @@mattp1337 - I quite like the pylons, tbh. The ship would look better with them up always, but as a plot device they were an interesting feature.

    • @NLVDragon2054
      @NLVDragon2054 Před 2 lety

      Agreed thrice over!
      NCC-1701-E

    • @Magnus4096
      @Magnus4096 Před 2 lety +1

      @@mattp1337 I don't think the articulation is the problem, rather that the nacelles on Voyager are just too damn tiny! They look like little chicken wings!
      E-Dubs on the other hand has some damn sexy nacelles...

  • @PM-fh2sp
    @PM-fh2sp Před 2 lety +5

    NX-01 (refit) has to be my favourite even though it never got canonised. It's such a good design iteration on the NX-01 which already is my favourite canon enterprise. The NASA vibe to it as well as the whole Enterprise show creates an atmosphere that not only is this a future that is bright and hopeful, but one we can recognise, you can believe that this will be our near future.

    • @dog3y3
      @dog3y3 Před rokem

      I Believe it is cannon since it's appeared in the movies. Not only in First Contact but I believe it appears on the Admirals Shelf of models in Star Trek Into Darkness. I'll have to double check that.

  • @johnwhite9404
    @johnwhite9404 Před 2 lety +5

    I would say I love the Excelsior Refit and I wish we had seen more of it as a main Character ship

  • @Restilia_ch
    @Restilia_ch Před 2 lety +5

    TMP Constitution Refit is by far my favorite. Took the TOS design which was very 1960s and made it universal in age.

  • @casbot71
    @casbot71 Před 2 lety +23

    Making the Sovereign class so lean and manoeuvrable really fitted with the Starfleet ethos and played to the strength of its personnel.
    It doesn't win by being a tank that sits and trades blows in a slugfest till the other side crumbles, it is designed for a smart innovative quick thinking Captain and crew to beat the opposition by tactical skill and strategic manoeuvring … it's meant for a dynamic style of combat.

  • @Parabueto
    @Parabueto Před rokem +1

    A year on, I find my Favourite Enterprise has changed from the B to the D. Just the whole concept of a slice of the Federation on tour and the general lines of the ship have just grown on me, massively.

  • @littletimelord2755
    @littletimelord2755 Před 2 lety +2

    Excelsior refit is amazing. I genuinely love it more than the original, so you’re not alone in that.

  • @solidoperative
    @solidoperative Před 2 lety +11

    I love the Enterprise D's interior. It just seems to safe, calming and comfortable.

  • @Tyr666Thor
    @Tyr666Thor Před 2 lety +47

    I think STO really made the Universe class work much better. Mainly by making it massive so the bits that look silly shrunk and stretched actually work. Also by having more 31st century ships along side with it that make it feel more cohisive and part of a fleet. I do love the 32nd century ships (most of them at least) as well though.

    • @choalithikanthe2422
      @choalithikanthe2422 Před 2 lety +16

      100% Agree, When the Universe was first revealed, I /despised/ it. But then, after randomly actually getting one, I decided to poke around in it a bit, and it dawned on me what they actually wanted.
      This is Star Trek's answer to a Star Destroyer. You're not supposed to look at the whole thing at once, or it's just a thing. But when it dominates the screen, when you let it swoop by or loom above you, or creep into frame, the dramatic effect is jaw-dropping. Those spindley parts are thicker than some entire ships are, and the grace and presence it exemplifies traveling alongside a fleet of smaller ships, it truly gives a sense of a time in which space is no longer just a frontier. This is the Federation's Nimitz, and now, shockingly, one of my favorites.

    • @TSEDLE333
      @TSEDLE333 Před 2 lety +5

      Agreed...it took me years to get a universe class...and I have a hard time not playing it all the time (well, when I could play, since the EV suit slot update, a bug has been crashing me out of the game in the character selection...2 weeks without loging in...oh well...forced vacation it is...). if it wasn't for the KTL Vengeance Intel Dreadnaught I wouldn't play another ship....and I do go back to my Odysseys every few weeks and/or events....

    • @Tuskin38
      @Tuskin38 Před 2 lety +8

      The Size of the Universe in STO is the size given to it by the original designer, they didn't make up.

  • @andrewporter852
    @andrewporter852 Před 2 lety +1

    I really did not want to agree with you, but you had me with the Excelsior class (and the
    Sovereign). Well done.

  • @bigwig2881
    @bigwig2881 Před 2 lety +11

    Enterprise C is my favorite. I just thought that it looked so well-proportioned. I didn't love Enterprise D because I always thought the saucer section was oversized, I will admit that it did grow on me but when I saw Yesterday's Enterprise I realized that I had found my ship.

  • @kuribayashi84
    @kuribayashi84 Před 2 lety +30

    For me its basically a head-to-head between the refit-Connie from Movies I to VI and the Enterprise-E.

    • @Blechfuchs
      @Blechfuchs Před 2 lety +3

      Movies version sure has the sexier waist.
      Goes perfectly along with bell-bottoms uniforms 😎

    • @ericfleming5522
      @ericfleming5522 Před 2 lety +2

      This is the correct opinion.

    • @killstefani
      @killstefani Před 2 lety +2

      100% agree.

  • @jaywalkersunite
    @jaywalkersunite Před 2 lety +37

    Glad to see the NX that high on the list. Both it and ENT have aged like a fine wine.

    • @csehszlovakze
      @csehszlovakze Před 2 lety +1

      it was the peak of TV and movie CGI. sadly everything was Marvelized afterwards...

  • @WhittyPics
    @WhittyPics Před 2 lety +6

    I always thought the B was goofy looking. My favorite is the Enterprise E. The Enterprise B was just too damn FAT at the bottom around the deflector dish.

  • @wifightit
    @wifightit Před 2 lety

    Superb video! Subscribed.
    Wow, so sad we lost the NX01 refit and fifth season! ugh.

  • @PennsyPappas
    @PennsyPappas Před 2 lety +20

    The Sovereign will always be probably my number one favorite ship but I fell in love with the Ambassador Class ship for really the very reasons you pointed out. Ive imagined myself as this StarFleet officer serving aboard one of these ships in the mid to late 24th century during that era of peace that we didn't get to see a whole lot on. Those are definitely my favorite.
    I also like how the NX-01 got love because to me this is a representation of what our own Earth space ships would be like. Just fast enough to do space travel using real life engines and real life technology, with a fairly small crew compared to later shows. This one was definitely more grounded in our own reality than other starships. That isn't to say the other shows didn't have real life tech but Enterprise definitely has as you say that NASA feel to it.
    Obviously the putting the TOS Enterprise low on the list will get you a lot of flak but I do see your point, and being first doesn't make you the best it just makes you first and the fact you put the Discovery Enterprise on there to me is just basically saying that yeah the Constitution class is still top dog in Star Trek but you're going with this updated refresh look to it like this is what it was meant to look like but models of the 60s just couldn't do it.
    Overall pretty good list I'd say, obviously everyone has their own list that will never satisfy everyone.

  • @popeofsimps2924
    @popeofsimps2924 Před 2 lety +24

    I would say it’s a tie for number one between the NX-01 (just feels very realistic and practical as a ship) and the DSC Enterprise (takes what made the TOS enterprise great and makes its damn near perfection)

    • @thomgizziz
      @thomgizziz Před rokem

      Practical? You understand that the shape of the ship doesnt matter in space. Practical would be a brick shape... how is everybody so bad at thinking?

  • @raghknarrscott1790
    @raghknarrscott1790 Před 2 lety +2

    I would love to see you do a deep dive into the USS Vengeance. It is my favorite ship profile and many other people agree !

  • @zacharyquisenberry89
    @zacharyquisenberry89 Před rokem

    While my list would be a little different I agree with your love the Enterprise in all it's iterations! Thank you for your work and content! Keep it up! Fantastic job!

  • @decayingsun5798
    @decayingsun5798 Před 2 lety +25

    Would love to see a video in this format for Halo ships. Or ship classes?

  • @jamesalder8628
    @jamesalder8628 Před 2 lety +24

    Enterprise-B needs so so so much more love. I'd love to see adventures about the ship and crew. I read a couple of the Lost Era books back in the day but it's not the same as actually seeing it fly.

    • @Gentleman...Driver
      @Gentleman...Driver Před 2 lety +1

      Yes, I hope we get a series on the B. But I do hope they do it more the traditional way, with an actual studio model, and better, more polished CGI effects. The effects on DISC and Picard are hideous for today standards. And even Voyager had better CGI effects then todays shows (but not as much of them). And I would hope that the characters of the show are more fleshed out, with an actual background story).

    • @JustinStrife
      @JustinStrife Před 2 lety

      I don't know why people like the look of the B. The whole thing just looks bloated and just plain weird.

    • @Gentleman...Driver
      @Gentleman...Driver Před 2 lety

      @@JustinStrife It reminds me of the anti torpedo bulges of old warships. They were also retrofitted on those vessels. I like the idea of an upgraded Excelsior Class ship. And it doesnt look too bad to my eye.
      Also the designers stated that at the time they wanted it to look more Japanese, since Japanese stuff was the latest shit in the 1970s and 1980s in the US. Every hightech article came from Japan. So they went for that look. Its the same story with Darth Vaders helmet by the way, which looks like that of a Samurai.

  • @paulmoore6345
    @paulmoore6345 Před rokem +1

    Agree about the Excelsior class refit. And you are right about the Enterprise E

  • @liamscienceguy8153
    @liamscienceguy8153 Před rokem

    I too love the Excelsior refit. Good video!

  • @MichaelMonroe88
    @MichaelMonroe88 Před 2 lety +13

    I LOVE the Enterprise-B and I, too, thought I was alone in that opinion! It was so nice to see her get the respect she deserves. I always liked the flared secondary hull and the extra impulse module.
    (I love the Disco Enterprise as well!)

    • @bitharne
      @bitharne Před 2 lety

      I really like the back-top of the saucer. Such a nice arrangement of greeblies

  • @virginiaconnor8350
    @virginiaconnor8350 Před 2 lety

    My brother served on an Enterprise. He was in the US Navy during the '70s and gave me a patch from his arm sleeve. He also served on the Lafferty and the USS Savannah AOR-4. It's retired forever and there's a new Savannah ship.

  • @xpgx1
    @xpgx1 Před 2 lety

    Interestingly, I really enjoy your open, no holds barred approach to talk about what has happened during the last 5 years with Trek. Thx for this =)
    And absolutely, _the Enterprise-E is truly where it belongs on this list._

  • @ps36081
    @ps36081 Před 2 lety +27

    The Enterprise A from ST6 was my favourite ship and really got me into Star Trek.
    It could have been the Constitution Class refit from ST2.
    Next for me was the Enterprise D

    • @singletona082
      @singletona082 Před 2 lety +1

      D has its flaws but.... c'mon it's the star trek series i grew up with.

  • @therealshadow99
    @therealshadow99 Před 2 lety +6

    Personally I always felt the Sovereign was the Excelsior done right. They have some strong similarity with a much more developed secondary hull and slimmer nacelles. It's still my favorite Enterprise and deserved to be alongside some of my other favorite vessels. Though of TOS 'inspired' designs... I'm torn between the KTL A redesign and the Discovery era... Both have a lot of points in common as well. The big thing I really appreciate is a thought to the weapons that didn't really go into the original series, such as turrets.

  • @TheAngryAstronaut
    @TheAngryAstronaut Před rokem

    Yup. You were right. You alienated half of your viewers. In other words, real Star Trek fans.

  • @johnheeg9294
    @johnheeg9294 Před rokem

    Thank you! Great list..

  • @leevaughan1990
    @leevaughan1990 Před 2 lety +39

    Great episode. About the TOS Enterprise, I've read that its lack of detail was partly a design decision by Jeffries, who felt you would want to surround the ship's components in a shell so you wouldn't have to go outside to work on anything. Interestingly, due to stealth concerns, modern frigates and destroyers are increasingly enclosed in featureless shells lacking in surface detail.

    • @irregularassassin6380
      @irregularassassin6380 Před 2 lety

      We see working on the hull pose a huge problem twice in Enterprise. First, unavoidably, in the Romulan minefield. Second towards the end of the third season when Malcolm and Trip head out to stop a massive plasma fire. That time they had to remove two hull plates to turn two valves to stop the plasma flow. Granted the ship was horrifically damaged, but you can see how engineers would have learned lessons from that. Malcolm almost died from heat exhaustion.

    • @ctmmckinney6219
      @ctmmckinney6219 Před 2 lety +1

      Its detail was appropriate for the television resolution of the time. Judging it in its HD remaster is unfair.

  • @mjteichman
    @mjteichman Před 2 lety +4

    Judging by that title, I see that you've chosen to start fights today.

  • @andrewh7868
    @andrewh7868 Před rokem +1

    My theory on the J is that Daniels didn't actually show Archer the real ship. Showing Archer, a very smart captain with a strong background in ship design and future big cheese in Starfleet, a distant-future ship, even just the outside, would have been revealing a lot of disruptive information. So, he was either shown an obscured version or an intentionally absurd one that would make him realize later that Daniels was never going to actually reveal that kind of information to him.

  • @Atlant05
    @Atlant05 Před 2 lety

    Great montage of the Enterprises line-up. I also prefer the Enterprise-B to the Excelsior. The subtle changes really works in my opinion. I'm glad it did for you too. I have the eaglemoss xl-model on my desk and the details are great. Kind of wish we could have seen more of this ship on screen.
    Thank you for this great video. Always quality entertainment 👌.

  • @DaloKnight
    @DaloKnight Před 2 lety +36

    Kinda sad we didn't get to see the Enterprise D Refit on this list. Admiral Rikers flagship from All good things. The Galaxy Dreadnought I believe its class ranking is officially called.

    • @blackc1479
      @blackc1479 Před 2 lety +1

      I'm conflicted on that one. I remember watching those the first time and full on squeeing that they actually did the dreadnought. And it's still cool, but now that I have some distance, it seems like they were trying too hard w it. A lot of the modifications look tacked on and didn't work with the asthetic at all.

    • @montithered4741
      @montithered4741 Před 2 lety +3

      I loved the aesthetic of the D-Refit. Very much star fleet shipyards bolting on newer technology to older ships. Just like how the B-52 and C-130 aircraft are continually getting new stuff added.
      Plus, I think the D-Refit is a sign of Riker’s hubris and reluctance to part with the Enterprise-D; like an old beat up classic car which the owner continues to put money into despite newer models existing.

    • @BossRedRanger
      @BossRedRanger Před 2 lety

      I hate that ship. 3 nacelle designs always look dumb. It looked cheap

  • @IRJOE5
    @IRJOE5 Před 2 lety +6

    My first love is the the A.. It was the first enterprise I ever saw and got me hook on the series. As for the B I do love the design, all the additions have a purpose and give that "I'm bigger and faster" look. The additional impulse engines give me that late 80's early 90's wide body race car feel

    • @jamesgates5375
      @jamesgates5375 Před 2 lety +2

      Enterprise-A (original not Kelvin) will always be the best and most iconic design. Also...my first Enterprise too!

  • @James-rm7sr
    @James-rm7sr Před 2 lety +1

    I still love the Original Refit design. 1701-A just always made me smile as a child. I cried when the blew up the Enterprise. My mom asked my dad what happened when we returned home.

  • @michaelbedinger4121
    @michaelbedinger4121 Před 2 lety

    Interesting choices. I am good with all of them. Your # 1 choice, agreed.
    Thank you very much for a very entertaining video.

  • @Viggenpower
    @Viggenpower Před 2 lety +10

    Yes, the Enterprise B is a better design than the original Excelsior class. I often thought if I was a captain, I would definitely prefer the Enterprise B design as my ship.

  • @nunya3163
    @nunya3163 Před 2 lety +37

    My favorite Enterprise was the Galaxy X version shown in the final episode "All good things".
    There was just something bad-ass about that version of the Galaxy, like it was tired of getting it's butt kicked, and ready for payback.

    • @dragonknightleader1
      @dragonknightleader1 Před 2 lety +13

      Admiral Riker's decision to refit it comes down to "I need a really big gun. Also cloak because that Treaty of Algeron was stupid."

    • @brianwesley28
      @brianwesley28 Před 2 lety

      Agreed. Galaxy X refit, Sovereign, Galaxy, Excelsior refit...
      Galaxy X. It would only be improved with the removal of the third necelle and inclusion of a sensor pod, weapons pod, or tactical pod, then adding two smaller streamlined nacelles below the pod of choice, like blended into the neck of the pod, to retain the higher warp speed capabilities of the third warp nacelle addition. Galaxy X for sure.

    • @neganrex5693
      @neganrex5693 Před 2 lety +5

      I agree. That was a much better look for the galaxy class. They need to keep the galaxy x look, take out the needles yoga rooms and turn it into an overgrown steam-runner by upgrading the plate armor and adding more weapons. That would make a ship you could take to fight and kick a dominion battleships butt but the UFP is all about feeling even if it gets them almost overran and cost millions of lives.

    • @dragonknightleader1
      @dragonknightleader1 Před 2 lety +2

      @@neganrex5693 Trillions, considering it consists of 150 member states.

    • @neganrex5693
      @neganrex5693 Před 2 lety +3

      @@dragonknightleader1 I would say your numbers are way more closer than mine in lives lost because of them fools in star fleet and UFP. On the cloaking system you made a comment about, Picard on that one EP should have pocketed that and told the crew to keep their mouths shut and it may save their lives again like it did on the show. It's a good thing to have if they are going to keep boldly trespassing in others space where they never trespassed before. They need to stop doing that because it seems to get them in more fights than anything else.

  • @Zamun
    @Zamun Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the content.

  • @drtaverner
    @drtaverner Před 10 měsíci

    The TOS colourful interior was to take advantage of the new Colour Broadcasting technology while still having enough contrast that you could watch it on a Black and White television. I was a kid in the middle of that transition, with both B&W and Colour TVs existing (the old B&W usually banished to the basement for the kids to watch while the shiny new Colour dominated the family room).
    It's an interesting artifact of making the B&W watchable while making the Colour TV audience go "WOW!"

  • @jeremys5274
    @jeremys5274 Před 2 lety +22

    I totally agree with you about the Excelsior refix; I love that design. My Fav is Consistution - 1701-A, which you didn't mention at all :(

    • @trumpetporvida
      @trumpetporvida Před 2 lety +2

      Other than a bit of a color update, the 1701 refit and the A are externally the same ship. I personally would lump them together in a comparison such as this.

  • @Tzryylon5
    @Tzryylon5 Před 2 lety +8

    In the same design vein as the Enterprise B, I absolutely LOVED the "Sovereign-ified" Obena class ship from season 2's finale on Lower Decks!

  • @NotTheGenZEminem
    @NotTheGenZEminem Před 2 lety

    My mother who’s been watching Star Trek since ‘66 just lit up when the Enterprise showed up in Discovery.

  • @nicholasmorsovillo2752
    @nicholasmorsovillo2752 Před 2 lety +1

    When I first saw Star Trek The Next Generation I too was in complete shock and awe at the size of the Galaxy Class U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701-D I mean damn I didn't think Starfleet could build a ship that large and being the first Enterprise with a Klingon onboard along with an Android second officer to a blind Chief Engineer to having an incredibly smart teenager sitting at the helm for the first 3 seasons and halfway through season 4 till he left for the Academy and one other thing I can still never get over was the fact it had a bar onboard at the very front of the saucer section.

  • @Mr_Welch
    @Mr_Welch Před 2 lety +16

    I always preferred the alternate future Enterprise with the three nacelle. Sad to see it didn't make the list

  • @Its-Just-Zip
    @Its-Just-Zip Před 2 lety +4

    My rose tinted goggles are just solid red plastic.
    TOS enterprise deserves at least middle of the stack.

  • @taramichelle2972
    @taramichelle2972 Před 2 lety +4

    Personally my favorite is the Refit Constitution version, it just looks gorgeous it will always be the best. 2nd place goes to the Discovery Enterprise, it’s a beauty as Kayla Detmer said. 3rd is the Sovereign class it looks like a good warship.

    • @JustinStrife
      @JustinStrife Před rokem

      I agree with this list. The Odyssey Class Enterprise is growing on me and might move into 4th for me.

  • @goochigoochs3836
    @goochigoochs3836 Před 2 lety

    I agree 100% with your list! Thanks for the video.

  • @ExcelsiorsDomain
    @ExcelsiorsDomain Před 2 lety +5

    I re-evaluated the Enterprise B when I got its Eaglemoss model and reviewed it because my initial reaction was always one of shortcut kit bash, but it does have a major impulse engine shift from the standard Excelsior and not just the flare around the deflector dish which did make me appreciate it more. The Enterprise C also really grew on me and its Eaglemoss XL version is HUGE! The sad irony is that we see so little of both of those ships on screen...

  • @pyronuke4768
    @pyronuke4768 Před 2 lety +59

    My favorite Enterprise would be the NCC-1701-F from Star Trek: Online. I love how it combines the sleek sexiness of the -E with the organic curves of the -D, and unlike the -J looks like a plausible evolution to the Enterprise lineup.
    My favorite cannon Enterprise is the -E, followed closely by the -A.

    • @Kakarott03512
      @Kakarott03512 Před 2 lety +2

      The only thing I dislike about the F is the bridge. It's to big. If you're in a combat situation and something happens to the tactical officer there's no way to quickly get to that station from any other station. I guess you could just reroute the controls to your station but still. It's just unnecessarily huge.

    • @DreadWulf221
      @DreadWulf221 Před 2 lety +1

      I agree, the F is the absolute best in my opinion, but if we're only talking non sto then the E takes it hands down

    • @varthelm
      @varthelm Před 2 lety +1

      @@Kakarott03512 I like the bridge that came with the original Anniversary ship.

    • @Kakarott03512
      @Kakarott03512 Před 2 lety

      @@varthelm the one that looks like a upgraded version of the D? That one was a little big too, but it looking like the D makes me like it more.

    • @godzillakaijuboy
      @godzillakaijuboy Před 2 lety

      I dislike the hole in between the neck, but it looks great otherwise

  • @edschultheis6767
    @edschultheis6767 Před 6 měsíci

    Can we just take a moment to talk about the newspaper article at 8:09. "LeVar Burton - The New Spock." No name or anything. That's some stellar journalism right there.

  • @darriusdeburgh7333
    @darriusdeburgh7333 Před měsícem

    Good video, great content. Your list is also good and well thought through. However, it may not look pretty but the defiant is like the sports car your uncle keeps under a tarp in the garage because it scares the folks in the neighbouring quadrants. 😉