What is the BEST HOME WIND TURBINE for a House in the UK
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
- I researched the best home wind turbine for use on a house in the UK. There are several things to consider, from turbulence, vibration, structural concerns and aesthetics. Most micro wind turbine systems fall foul of these but I did find an intriguing system from Canada, the Ridgeblde by The Power Collective. I couldn't find a UK installer but I think you will agree the Ridgeblade might address many of the concerns we have with wind turbines for use on a house in the UK.
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0:00 - Intro
1:12- Why most UK Houses don't have wind turbines
2:16 - What are vertical axis wind turbines
4:03 - Structural issues with wind turbines on UK houses
6:21 - How the Ridgeblade turbine might solve the problems
7:42 - Problems with Ridgeblade turbine supplier
8:13 - Summary - Jak na to + styl
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Thank you so much for an excellent, well-described video. I have just installed 14 Solar Panels with 2 Batteries using Sunsynk. I was looking for a wind turbine in order to keep the batteries topped up in the winter. It is a minefield of what is suitable but at least this video has helped somewhat.
I’m looking forward to when domestic wind turbine technology is on a par with solar, as they make a fantastic combination coupled with battery storage. An interesting video Neil, thanks
I’m not sure it will ever happen, at least not in urban settings. We can’t escape basic physics but if we could make very cheap turbines, and couple then with batteries, then it may be cost effective.
brilliant video and explanation. thank you. I live off grid on a hill... and after a decade still hadn't found something this interesting and helpful on wind turbines, - even tho I've got one!
I had seen the ridge blade a few years ago and was excited by it as a viable option. So was great to see it on here. Though looking at the Facebook page there are no updates since early 2021, people giving out they no longer respond to comments and a few saying they have gone out of business which is a shame.
It looks that way.
Great video :)
All the info I wanted boiled down in one video :)
Glad you found it useful
Fantastic style, logical and to the point - many thanks
No problem
GREAT VIDEO. SAVED ME TIME AND MONEY.
Very interesting video. I was fascinated by the news that 'Ventum Dynamics' (a Norwegian firm) had installed 2 turbines in the UK. 1 on Skegness Pier and 1 on a factory in Spalding. It looks like air is ducted up into the vertical axis turbine reminiscent of jet engine ducting. This is more than a single dwelling would require but is applicable to blocks of flats or factories.
I live on Anglesey and wonder about colaborating with some neighbours to share costs and benefits. We have fields and wind and a very fragile local distribution system!
One of our local wind farm turbines caught fire in high winds! Who needs anemometers? 😉
Really good, sound video. Thanks
No problem
Thanks for this - really interesting insight into wind turbines. We live on a farm in South Wales 200m above sea level so are considering a turbine (of some sort) along with solar. Your video has helped to answer a lot of questions!
Glad you enjoyed it
Great Video, thank you.
You are welcome
Very nicely explained 👍
Thank you
My greatest concern is how to recover from all these economic and global troubles and stay afloat especially with the political power tussle going on in US.
Yes, tesla, transportation, e-commerce among other sectors are expected to experience growth, but who knows, the market has been a basket of surprises.
This is interesting knowledge thank you for sharing.
You are welcome
great video. Just what I was after!
Thank you
Thanks for this video.
I live in north east Scotland on top of a hill where it’s windy most of the year. I have fitted solar panels, an ahp and a Tesla battery.
Until now, I haven’t been attracted to wind energy for the reasons set out in the video and as most of them break fairly quickly.
I look forward to reading how the power collective gets on as it seems the most promising option for me.
I was actually contacted by a person from them yesterday but I have yet to get full details on what they are up to.
very interesting subject
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Thx RAL. I've looked at this for my self-build project (back-of-an-envelope feasibility 'study') having seen something similiar at Futurebuild. I'm keen to incorporate as much eco-tech to exceed the old CfSH 5 or even 6, however, my issue will be concealing the ridge turbine from the front elev street view; maybe a lower level rear roofline might work (look up 'Tommy Walsh eco house' - you'll see what I mean) though I reckon the blades would need a cross flow for wind, so this will impact the turbine's performance or not work at all. Great video as usual - you deserve more subs! Maybe consider doing a colab on a flavour-of-the-month subject with Roger 'the Rant' from SkillBuilder' to open up a wider viewership... 👍
I would love to work with Roger, SkillBuilder is a great channel
I have solved all the problems in VAWTs. I am testing 4th protoype.
Thanks for this, like your channel a lot. I’d also seen the tessup but I like that ridge blade turbine a lot. If it’s 5MWh per year generation thats roughly equivalent of a 6k solar system. That’s about 7 grand and if you pair with an existing inverter and battery would be a very nice solution.
Agreed. I can’t understand why this isn’t a bigger sales success.
Apparently ridgeblade have lost their best staff and are now trying to sell the idea. I wanted to purchase 7 of the ridge blades but have zero responses from their office
@@fortheloveofdog9134 oh.. well done for trying!
Excellent video have just started to look into this technology as have recently installed solar and battery and looking for a way to compliment the system
This system is exactly what I’m looking for (new build in France)
I don’t think Ridgeblade is available. I was recently contacted by a firm claiming to be their UK supplier but they have not answered my emails. Others in the comments believe the Canadian company has gone out of business.
What a brilliant idea, hopefully a UK company takes this up I certainly would add this to my solar system.
Since making the video it seems Ridgeblade have gone out of business
@@RealLifeArchitecture No way... That's a shame
@@enkidu78 wouldn't it be nice if Elon saw wind has its place alongside solar.. Im sure we would see major advances.. more important than going to Mars in my book...
There's a wind turbine in development in utah called power pod, the company making it are called halcium. Its portable and would possibly get around a lot of the problems you mentioned
True but I don’t think it’s for sale yet. Am making a follow up video and will look at this
Very interesting. The Ridge VAWT looks promising. What about Solar Boilers? They rarely get mentioned.
Thank you. Very clear video. Have you looked at the aeromine? Addresses many of the problems you mention. Still trying to get prices though.
Thanks for the info, I looked them up. It’s an interesting product but they are aiming at commercial buildings with flat roofs.
Very informative, am looking for something exactly like this to compliment my current 4kw solar system and 10kw battery storage. I live in a windy area, but still can't find anything out there that's suitable/cost effective any updates on suitable products recently?
The ridge blade is a very interesting idea because as you say, it's unobtrusive and I imagine quite simple to install. The issue you pointed out with storage is the real problem. Installing batteries in every house is just not feasible, aside from the financial cost the amount of materials required would likely require most if not all of the lithium output on Earth. It's just not workable until some form of cheap storage using alternative materials is discovered or mass produced. Graphene based batteries would be ideal as carbon is everywhere, but the technology isn't even close at this point. Even feeding it back into the grid isn't viable because on windy days the nation would produce too much and the grid couldn't handle it. In such cases the turbine would have to stop, if local storage has been filled I mean.
The solution is going to be some micro-generation with nuclear and gas backup. That is until we develop either storage or fusion power has a breakthrough.
Unbelievable information.
Do you mean unbelievable good or unbelievable bad?
@@RealLifeArchitecture unbelievably great information. It's been a while since I came across someone who provides a great deal of detail and overview.
Thank you
I am re building a house in the south uk and its beach front. I want to make the most of the wind turbines and solar energy. I like the ridge blade idea and the Tesup wind turbines. but would this be possible when the plans I have are half flat roof and pitched I was listening and I want to ask if the wind turbine could be fitted within the structure. Similar to having large vents for instance in the structure of the building, or would this effect the stability of the building. We do get strong winds obviously in the winter. I just havn't seen anything suitable apart from someone online making his own, which was great, more of a drum design incorporating the blades, but final product seemed a bit bigger than I would want. I was also concerned about the stability again if this was part of the building. Also the new build will be semi detached. I really think my new build would be the perfect candidate for these products. Would appreciate any info you can send my way.
Solar was feasible in my area, in terms of regulatory hurdles. The power companies make residential wind turbines all but impossible to grid tie.
I'm building a property on the north west coast of Ireland. Plot will be around an acre. I presume a standard horizontal turbine along with solar panels would mean 100% off grid. I would still have a back up generator for emergencies.
Any advice/confirmation appreciated.
your video is very inciteful i have been thinking about of grid energy, but i was wary because of a health issue i have. there is a commercial wind turbine near my home the council allowed it's erection without thinking about the repercussions on the health of those near it. i have serious tremors and twitches which have been made worse by the turbine which is situated at the other side of the paddock as you can feel the vibrations throughout the house when it is turning, this is turn aggravates my condition. when i move home this may be a good substitute
Think you meant insightful.
Answer the ending question. Like big architecture? Come for a tour. First small. Have you reviewed grid tie in inverters. and forget combing sysstems. I have wind and solar and hot cables. On sunny or windy days I can melt plugs so means converting to 12V to 24v to lower the ampage. . Forget combining and use a grid tie in inverter to convert to 240V AC and wire it into the mains. They bypass the cupboard under the stairs electric meter connection meter mess and plug directly into a househld plug socket. Even an extension lead and still plug other appliances into the same extension lead. They ad just a tiny bt more voltage to the system like 421 volts instead of 240v. that pushes by the mains electricx and uses their power first. They wire direct to solar panels and wind and more if checking the specs and dumploads for wind. Seperate battery system on a battery charger if you like from there. No combing. great things but might need extra plug sockets. Saves on cables overheeating because get 25-V all over. If the power drops because want an on grid system. no longer 241 volt but 240 afain and the main electrics instantly floods back in. When I make power the lectric meter runs backwards and when not making power th meter runs forward. Lower electric bill that way or by adding more batteries. Adding grris tiw in to on grid systems can let the electriic company worry on battery systems. CHECK OUT DRAx COAL POWER STATION. They crush coal to a powder They burn a football stadiuum of coal easily in a day but tasa powder coal is very volatile and explosive and then coal power runs like a car injection system. Giving coal power and accelerator pedal. Grid tie in is down coal power just pushes down on the gas. when up they can ease off on fuel instantly.
I did just plug and play and will until complete my whole electric bill.
here is somebdoy else.
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sammler and smaller. Boost the volatage lower the ampage.
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Old systems work in many coal.
Ignore that nucelar sign there. Exactly on big architecture.
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The accelrator.
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Grid tiw in inverteres than not need to push down on the accelrator in fact that electic little extrea voltage can eventually push all the way back to the power station. The opower station swap to batteries or your own.
Thanks for the housing tip on structure.
Boost the voltage, lower thae ampahe or cables melt plugs. The beauty of direct plug and play grid tie in.
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Feel free to delete this is to long.
Very informative, except no reference to how these effect the environment and/or migrational animal life, nor maintenance requirements.
Thanks, that's really helpful. They both look like really practical solutions to getting wind power into the home. Would be interested in you doing a video about planning permission for this sort of thing, I am assuming you'd need it regardless?
In the UK planning for this is devolved to local authorities, each one has its own policies. Some places may allow tech like is others may not. I will look into doing a video on the planning implications in a few months, I have a full schedule at the moment
@@RealLifeArchitecture would you be able to comment as to planning permission for Ireland? You have an Irish accent, that's why I ask :)
@@christopherwalsh7110 I’m from West Clare originally but have been living in Scotland almost 24 years. I trained and qualified here and have never worked in Ireland, so don’t have the ability to advise on Irish planning or regulations. Sorry
@@RealLifeArchitecture ah yes, thought I detected a Clare accent along with Scottish :) No problem, thanks for the great content - looking forward to more on this subject and other renewable technology topics!
what about the powerpod wind turbines are they good for home or society. How much they produce and with price with the profit is it worth it?
I saw that but cant find a retailer. Are they for sale in the UK?
@@RealLifeArchitecture not sure
That's a pretty good design, shouldn't be too hard to build diy. Would be interesting to know the UK planning law - what's allowed and what isn't etc
anything over 4KW has to have permission / be installed by a professional but but they are not trained in installation of home wind turbines - write to you MSP / Councillors and MP please guys and lets get this production underway
Planning varies depending on locality, listing, conservation area, proximity to boundary, building use class etc. it’s not really possible to have a one-size-fits-all for things like this.
as far as i know anything situated on a roof can not protrude moer than 140 mm above the roof without local authority permission .
and i think you might just find it impossible to get permission on somthing that new .
Hi there, I am in the process of acquiring a solar plus battery storage for my Victorian semi, plus the possibility of wind generation for my house, a Victorian Semi. I noted you comments regarding vibration effects top the house structure and was wondering of the Picts of the roof was a factor?
The pitch pitch of my roof is quite low, just 22.5 degrees.
Can you recommwnd a suitable vertical axis wind generator design?
THe previous owner of my house was a reputable builder in my area and he effectively rebuilt the gable end of the roof, removing the chimney stack and there is a steel flu at the edge of the roof which is no longer required and so I was thinking of siting a wind generator in that position, adjacent to the solar panels.
I look forward to hearting from you.
Sorry for taking this long to reply but I cant advise people on structural alteration issues like this unless they are covered by my insurance. I recommend you contact a structural engineering firm and have them run the calculations for you.
Hi, interesting and unusual wind generator. Thanks for sharing. Where is your architect practice based and what areas do you cover? I don't mean asking a question, discussing something or consulting on one matter or another via your online forum, rather to be the architect helping with my conversion project
I take on projects in and around Edinburgh
@@RealLifeArchitecture Thanks Niel, sadly I'm very far away in Buckinghamshire, looking for an architect with experience of SIPS and alternative energy/heat sources.
I was looking at the wind turbine a long time ago, but I can not find an approximate price. Can I get some more information about it, please? I am interested in the residential area, with a 5 rotor system.
I don’t have current costs either, I’m afraid
Hi, any updates of any of the products? Any new products which may solve the issues?
To be honest, I’ve been focusing the channel elsewhere since I made this video. I will revisit this in the coming months, promise.
Could a turbine at 45degrees in line with pitch roof at end of house work supported by wires and steel structure
That is an interesting idea but its would still need support at the center point of rotation.
What are your thoughts on the aeromine wind turbine system?
I have yet to look into it but will make a follow up video in the next few months
I saw a design from Canada, which looks like a barrel and the top of the barrel sits above the roof , the rotary blades inside the barrel . (Bit like an iceberg) so domestically it only shows like a chimney. Really sorry I don't remember it's name , but would love to solve the domestic problem in your clip
If you find the source please post a link
Wouldn't rubber bushings significantly cut down on vibration?
No, they just reduce the transmission of vibrations. The vibrations still happen and if they can’t be transmitted to a solid structure they will damage the turbine instead
Harmony Turbines solves a lot of the problems vat's have. Check them out. Not on market yet though
Thanks for the info, I looked them up, very interesting
The Power Collective Ridge Blade sounds and look interesting. The companies involved in this in Canada have ceased communicating with anyone via email, telephone or social media. So it looks like they are missing in action :(
I am beginning to think the worst...
@@RealLifeArchitecture Hello, I'm the Technical Manager for RidgeBlade. We are currently testing out RidgeBlade here in the UK with different residential and commercial applications. We have been delayed due to finalising the power electronics and PMG designs over Covid, but we are looking to get up and running soon. Stay tuned for updates
@@Badger.energy thanks for getting in touch! A lot of comments on here asking about your products. Can you DM me to have a chat?
@@Badger.energy fancy using my house as a test? Its always windy here and we are west facing 3 storey house on a hill!
@@Badger.energy Wish you every luck getting this product to market, I reckon there'll be plenty of interest here in windy UK!
Appreciate your video. However, it would be great to know if you have actually tried a Tesup wind turbine? I have and it didn't work i.e. the charge controller did not supply any current to my inverter. Tesup support was non-existent and they wouldn't accept a return of the faulty goods, therefore I had to claim a refund on my credit card. Like you, I had fallen for a fancy website and had plans to purchase multiple units until I realized they are a con.
I made this video a year ago. To be honest I did not expect it to become as popular as it has. I will look into making a follow up
i am a property developer. maybe we will connect one day and have a meeting. about integrating Solar and Wind see: Power Nest. Great channel !!! Looking to integrate energy in my projects.
If most houses could produce enough power to cover there use with a reasonably cheap install price what would happen to energy company profits?
Cynical, but true...
Have you seen the Helicium pod generator .?
Yes but cant find a UK retailer
@@RealLifeArchitecture It's still in development ,you have to register for a email to let you know when it will go on sale.
I have a strong interest in the product of RidgeBlade introduced in your video. May I know where to buy it, and what is that company's contact information? Thanks.
Unfortunately others on here have noted the company appears to have gone out of business. I am not connected with RidgeBlade in any way.
@@RealLifeArchitecture are u sure ?
I live in a bungalow surrounded by commercial wind turbines . It is windy most of the time. I think I wouldn’t need solar at all, but accessing these types of ridge turbines seems impossible at a reasonable cost at the moment .
I’m not sure the Ridgeblade company is trading anymore
winds are generally lower at night, not higher.
Perhaps but it’s not flat calm, even some wind at night makes a difference
What happened to this company? Neither RidgeBlade or it’s parent company are contactable. A member of my (South Oxfordshire) council has attempted to find more information directly and drawn a blank. Being Chair of the South Oxfordshire Climate Crisis Group and constantly at loggerheads with planners, the Environment Agency and politicians in general he thought this would be a good second option to solar. As you said, it’s a well paired group of ideas that complement each other. So where did this disappear too?
I like it but i see loads of problems. Vibration isolation would need carefully thinking about. As a noise consultant, there is no such thing as vibration or noise free. Fast Rotating horizontal axle exposed to the elements, bearings will fail etc What about when a bird flies into it and knocks it out of balance. Even a few grams out of balance will be horrendous.
Probably true. Other comments on here note the company are not returning calls.
Has anyone got this installed in there home would be great to get feedback on your thoughts on it.
Brasil 🇧🇷, eu gostaria de comprar para consumo em casa, irrigação de um pequeno pomar, três chuveiros, celulares, bomba d'água.
Thanks
Looking forward to what Ecoflow come up with when they release a wind turbine.
Me too
Ask anyone who uses their own wind turbines and they will tell you only the horizontal ones work.
Trouble is, there are very few people out there with turbines to ask about this.
@@RealLifeArchitecture Plenty on CZcams try Toys for Watts and OffGrid406.
Do you understand the logic of our planning system? 'If you have an Air Source Heat Pump, you can't have a wind turbine'! The high electricity demand for heating would suit wind turbine generation more than solar due to time of energy availability.
Yes...I am trying to find an answer why...I have 6.2 kW Solar system on the roof and 6kW ASHP... + Electric cylinder for hot water...I want to enhance my generation as to rech 0 use from the grid during winter time
Powerpod?
I cant find a UK retailer
Everyone who has ever studied small urban wind turbines has come to the same conclusion: it's not worth the effort. You need to be at least 5-10 meters above all surrounding houses and trees to get half decent winds. Manufacturers claiming their new turbine can better deal with "dirty" air and can start at low wind speeds are scamming you: a higher percentage of nothing is still nothing.
I think you are mostly correct but the amount of wind around buildings is not zero. If a wind generation system could be built cheap enough it’s efficiency wouldn’t matter. Combined wit a battery system it would store useful amounts of electricity over time. But it really would need to be dirt cheap
I think the Ridgeblade looks very intriguing ... but... what about birds? ... our roof tops are hope to a lot of avian dinosaur activity.
Problem with ridgeblade... Birds
Simple mesh in front, would have little impact on wind,but would stop birds, sparrow size upwards.
Actually the best one would be none at all!!
Why?
sorry, the ridge blade has been around for yonks & gone nowhere, snake oil i'm afraid
I only just discovered it. I can see they have been around for at least 10 years, so it is puzzling the company hasn’t grown. Also, it’s a lot of kit to generate relatively modest amounts of electricity compared to the vertical turbine
The reason being....?
@@aljudy01 - who knows? - but looks far from functioning
The tesup isn't a viable resource, I'd say, if you have a look at their trustpilot or CZcams reviews.
I’ve had several comments noting the same. That said, the design is intriguing and I wonder why they can’t make it more popular.
As a retired electrical engineer I find the cost and maintenance requirements of a battery back up system a non-starter. With the current technology and costs they make zero financial sense. If you live on a mountain top miles away from the nearest power line OK, but otherwise they are just cost and technology for the sake of your ego.
Lol😂 maintenance?
I'm just looking through my maintainence and care package and it says wipe down with a cloth. My ego still hasn't showed up either lol.
With rising costs worst case scenario most people will have their money back in 10 years, more likely 7 years with a feed in tariff or even better an electric car. Then if the battery and inverter goes bang after 10 years, you technically could start again with a new inverter forget the expensive batteries and still have free warrantied solar through the day for another 15 years easily recouping the money for the potential second inverter. No brainer, just choose a reputable company and good equipment like sunsynk. Coming from a working electrician ;-)
As a current and practising electrical engineer, I disagree.
Granted, you have to have everything sized right..
but having done so in combination with running an EV, and crucially, an appropriate tariff for low-cost overnight grid import and decent export rate, my solar&battery system ROI is down to ~4.5 years.
There is no maintenance as such, but even if the battery got weak (they don't just fail 100%), or the inverter needed replacing, that is easy to fix.
I'm with you on wind turbine though, it's not there yet.
Still looking for my ego, I guess that is all in the first sentence of the post.
I would have imagined there to be no maintenance on a lifepo4 battery system?
You know what else would “go a long way to addressing our energy needs”? Nuclear. Oh, and gas.
All this stuff is fine and dandy but doesn’t solve the “climate crisis”.
Agreed, I've retired from Nuclear Power Industry. We don't seem to have a government that can focus on long term projects. The length of time it takes to go from green field to turning a sod is longer than Prime Ministers are in No 10.
I'm afraid independent electricity supply is what I can depend on at my time of life.😢
What's going on? I have to sit through 4 MINUTES of adverts to watch a video. When did this happen. 30 seconds, fine, the platform has to be paid for, but 4 minutes is too much.
I’m not sure but I’ve heard the same from others. I think YT has changed its algorithm
None of them scammers wind turbines are run by coal they are not a windmill .🎉
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