WOMEN are the BIGGEST LOSERS under FEMINISM
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In this clip from our long-form discussion, Chazz and I discuss why women are the biggest losers under feminism. The bitter reality is that most women will not become boss girls, and that the few who do will have difficulty attracting men at their level. I put forward an alternative strategy for women looking to "have it all": prioritize the search for a partner over career success in their 20s.
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Feminism is the right to be treated just as disposable as men.
Except with much more praise. Women need to be told how special and needed they are constantly ad nauseam.
Haha seems like an Oscar Wilde quote
@@internalizequotes thanks Kevin! I’ll take my wit being compared to Oscar Wilde all day!
Well stated.
I’m old.
I remember in the early 80’s with all the discussion of women being in the work force.
I thought, “wow, they’re really going to be disappointed when they find out how sh!tty most of us get treated.”
Well, they found out, but feminism keeps gaslighting them to believe there is MORE, when there really isn’t.
“Feminism liberated women from the natural dignity of their sex and turned them into inferior men.” ― Francis Parker Yockey
@DOA Yockey was a prescient OG, died in 1960
Natural dignity of their sex? Lmao
@@latt.qcd9221 maybe the degeneration of culture has provided you no examples, but in my wife I have seen glimpses of the divine feminine. every male soul wishes to be nourished by it and I don't think we can complete our transformation until we have. reject the debased version of woman we see today, but don't turn away from the divine feminine, you need Her for life. You'll probably laugh at this, but I wrote it mostly for myself and you can take what you want.
@@AetherXIV when you have a solid family which obviously includes your wife, struggles in life certainly make more sense and are easier to bear, unfortunately to have a solid family it takes at least 2 people, and what many men find today is that women are very fickle and can easily change their minds 5-10 years down the line. Millenials and zoomers will be the most miserable generation when we grow old, since most men wont have family/children of their own, 99% of women will at least be single mothers so they could cope with life taking care of "chads" kid, men on the other hand will be the loneliest hermits imaginable, I cant even comprehend how we as human race managed to destroy out society like that.
@@AetherXIV You're talking about women like they're some kind of deity. They're just humans.
What you guys are too polite to admit is that rich women are often nasty to be around. It's not about their money, it's about their bad attitudes
...and hence "passport bros". Women elsewhere are simply...........nice.
My Aunt makes BANK as an Anesthesiologist but she is a miserable human being. She is ultra controlling of her husband and since he doesn't make $600K as her because he is "only" a sports medicine Doctor he can't buy his motorcycle or guns without her permission. It infuriates me that he hasn't left her cuz the dude could do soooo much better....in fact when they started dated apparently that is what all his friends thought.
@@steveburke7675Usually, women that go for passport bros are also nasty in their own way, they're too westernized, hate their own culture or plain old golddiggers who wants a green card. Remeber, if there's a passport bros, there's a passport hoes.
@@nateo200 Meanwhile, there are plenty of husbands and wives who are both doctors and who get along just fine. Your aunt indeed sounds awful, but she doesn't represent most women doctors. Most of the women doctors I've to are lovely people.
I'll admit this outright every chance I get. no politeness is necessary to tell an obnoxious person that they're obnoxious. when that's not enough then I would say it's even your duty to leave, lest you encourage bad attitudes in her and by extension the community.
maybe not rich, but I do pretty well. I have no apologies to make as long as I'm not a burden. besides when a child, my history is 100% not burden. I even have enough to share ..only with nice people that is. want fame and fortune beyond my quality company? get it yourself. oh, and don't b**** either 😎
What women fundamentally don’t understand about being a ‘boss’ is that it comes at a great cost and sacrifice and that those men that do reach the pinnacle do it not necessarily for fake or money, but to become providers and the best possible partners for their wives and families. Women have the tendency to have tunnel vision on the CEO and ignore the other 500 men that didn’t make the cut that lost everything in the process of trying to become the Top Dog. I’m an Intensivist, which means I’m an ICU doctor and at the age of 32. Women flock to me all the time now, but I stick with my fiancé because she picked me when I was 26 and still struggling in medical school and now she also gets to reap the benefits of my success. But to get to where I’m at: I had to beat out 499 other people in high school to get into a great pre med program in college, beat out another 200 other people in college in that program to get into medical school, beat out 200 other people in medical school to get into residency, and another 100 people to get into fellowship. I worked 80+ hours a week for over a decade of my life and was so stressed that I was growing greys in my beard in my early 20’s. The women physicians I work with that are also at the end of that 10+ year journey with me always complain now “I don’t get it, I got more attention from men when I was a 23 year old first year medical student compared to being a 33 year old attending physician, meanwhile you’ve GROWN in the options you have!” When I point out that what men are attracted to is different from what women are attracted to, they’ve all accused me of being sexist, save for one, who quietly agreed. She also happens to be the only one who focused on getting married and having kids first. Ladies, you’ve got your whole lives to focus on your careers, you’ve only got so much time before you can’t have children anymore. Choose wisely
At least 1/5th of women (and rising) don't want to have children ever. Studies show that single women are happier, live longer and have more leisure and free time than married moms so for the 1/5th of women (and growing) they are much better off
First, props to you for your accomplishments. I'm not a doctor, but I've been told how intense and demanding the profession is to get into/be in.
For a lot of these women, I think it's ego: a lot of these hyper intense career women types like the idea that they can beat men at their own game and become very successful. Then, they like to think that they can snap their fingers to become a wife and mother whenever they want.
100% agree. We got an unexpected pregnancy when I was in law school. She dropped out of her degree to take care of our child, now that I'm a successful lawyer it's her who reaps the benefits because she was there with me sowing.
What I want to know is: if feminist attitudes and behaviors are genuinely self-destructive, why do so many women fall for this trap? Clearly, there's something missing from the alternative perspective - if our understanding were truly complete, one would expect it to outcompete an actively harmful one.
@@DavidDHorstman The answer to your question is that Feminism hasn't been around yet to see the entirety of its consequences, but we're close. Read "Rise of the Sheconomy" and it talks about how 60% of women aged 18-45 are going to be single, childless, and marriageless by 2030. It takes time for the collective consciousness to acknowledge that change is needed.
I was a Global Director in a well known European company. 16 hour days, 100k+ internationally, 50k+ domestically a year. It is a brutal life style, you give up so much else. Did it for 12 years and at 54, I was toast, completely drained. Very few people can handle this long term, most drop out in their 40's. I took a lower position, wife didn't like the hit to the lifestyle. After 25 years, and starting the divorce process. Saw this coming a mile away, just to tired to fight for it.
0:49 “ the world of feminism is the playground for the F-boy”, exactly. As a semi-repentant F-boy, I fully concur with this statement. Feminism said that women should no longer be traditional, they should be sexually liberated, and independent. This is great news because it also means that I do not have to be traditional as well, I don’t have to commit ( I can allow her to believe that I would eventually commit) or invest anything other than a few dates and getaway trips. And when she eventually gets fed up ( they always do, they always want commitment ) I can easily move on to the next woman and repeat the cycle.
Yup. Alot of women seem to not understand how leverage works and how both men and women use it differently. They project their desires unto highly attractive men undermining the fact that these men also have their own desires too! When men try making them aware of this their excuse is men are trying to “make them settle for less and go for mediocre men” 😂😂. At that point you kinda have to let them play out their delusion and find out on their own. You know what they say, “Experience is the best teacher!”💯
Women don’t want commitment anymore. That was 50 years ago. They want children, sometimes, but never a husband. I’m talking about women of all ages. 70% of divorces are initiated by women. They don’t want to remarry either. But if you want to keep dreaming, keep dreaming.
The honeymoon phase on repeat. Leo DiCaprio would be proud. It seems to be the best dating strategy as a guy these days
Seems like the best dating strategy for guys nowadays 🤣
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Most men don't have careers, they have jobs. Why would women expect it to be any different?
They don’t. They just realized that being a wage slave is better than being an in-house slave, that’s all.
Total red pill propaganda to think women are all trying to be a boss at work. Most women are just trying to support themselves and the largest field women go into is healthcare.
Because women are convinced of their own fabulousness. Why shouldn't they, when the gynocentric West is practically a force labor camp for flattery of females?
@@pwh5805 Focusing on family= Being an in-house slave. Wow, motherhood is so demonized that it’s led so many of our women to belief that slaving away for a corporate boss is more fulfilling than sacrificing for their family. It is what it is🤦♂️
@@Khan-rz8qi The problem isn’t motherhood. The problem is the husband aka manchild and the dead bedroom that comes with it. Men have been degrading housewives for decades: “go get me a sammich!” So yes, women prefer to get at least paid for their labour, so wage slaving it is. Plus they get their seggsual needs met by dating good looking men 👍
Feminism makes women give away the best years of their life, for their lowest income. By the time they decide to make babies their fertility is in a steep downward trajectory…..it’s a recipe for heartbreak.
They did it on purpose! The billionaires invented Feminism and they are the one supporting it heavily! Their real goal: Less people in the world!
Marriage life isn't any better most of the time.
@@EC-yl7xktell us in what ways marriage isn't better...
It’s 2023, women are having babies past 40+ and surrogates are legal. Give me a break lady.
As a 45 yoa woman, I completely agree! I wish I'd worked harder to find a decent mate and make babies young. It was hard to find a good man for me, though, and I finally did!
I think feminism also ruined men bc women stopped holding them as accountable as they could be, thinking, "I can do it myself better!" So the men feel un-needed too, or they continue in boyish behavior.
power and wealth are what WOMEN look for in a partner. men couldn't care less about those qualities in a woman.
That’s why men lose. Men settle constantly and then complain about the woman they settled for having her head through the roof. Your fault for settling so much
Women are looking for (3P's) Provisionning, Protection & Parental investment in a man for a LTR.
Its like if there was an influx of feminine men who wanted nothing more then to nurture, cook and add joy in to the lives of others. How many women would desire men like that? very few if any.
You are SO wrong here.. These qualities are basic requirements in a woman to a high value man. Always was and always will be !
@@marcusmcgraw3519nope. Men complains when she is abusive.
As a 20-something year old, we aren't known for our decision making skills.
The fundamental problem with feminism is that it actively tries to ignore and dismiss men's interests in the game. From the game theory point of view, you can't have a successful game when one party not just ignores but actively dismisses the other party's interest. This would be a game that no man would be eager to play in the long run, and we see that folding. Per your guest's view, it only leaves a playground for F boys to take advantage of women and run away to the next game, where they will play halfway through and run into another one. Leaving most women devastated behind.
Most women are fine with f boys though. They’re not looking for anything longterm. Better to have a wide range of options than to have a dead bedroom with some balding husband.
And a playground for F girls (feminist girls) to take advantage of other women by vampirically sucking relevancy and attention from them.
Femifascism.is.a.chovinist.movement
Nobody wants to work but most of the people don't want to depend on others. Most adults go to work because they want to be independent from parents.
I know it's a scary truth, but some women actually do enjoy contributing to the world through their work. In a capitalist, fast-pace, egocentric entreprise most people who give their 100% would probably get burned out. On the other hand, if you choose to work in enterprises with more cooperation, solidarity in team-work, and a desire for doing your best so that you can contribute to a meaningful purpose, than you will probably have a fulfilling job. Man or woman, does not matter.
Women were intended to show support for one another, not only as professionals. The role of "mother" was sadly overlooked by the "feminist" movement. Empowering women does not mean only the career driven 💝❤
The goal of the feminist movement was to destroy the nuclear family
and while they are supporting one another, they also hate each other. LOL
i don't think they overlooked it, they made a point to demean it.
we need womens brain for economy
why would you not utilize half of brain of humanity and let it get wasted?
Feminism did help to give women more options in life. It's just that it promised more than it could deliver in terms of success. The average man doesn't have it that great. Feminism just gives most women the opportunities of an average working class man. Why would they assume that feminism would solve all their problems?
You’re right. Though I think women approached feminism as a weapon more than a tool for progress. They rebelled and turned away from what was important and led with their feelings more than logic. Even today, the truth is out there but their combativeness makes it impossible for them to see reality
Because women and men are fundamentally different, many dont understand the work/sacrifice necessary to succeed. They also don't understand its a game of trade offs for a man as well as luck and perseverance.
It does kill me though, many modern women will scream about men not meeting them at the table in terms of income but they complain endlessly about the mythical wage gap
@@SquarishLink the rabbit hole goes deeper than we can comprehend 🤣🤣
It gave them more opportunities than the average man. Examples; affirmative action, gender quotas, scholarships, bias laws and biased courts. Even with all the extra help given through the extortion of men, they fail in life .
The apex fallacy strikes again
It’s also solipsism in the form of women believing that men are attracted to the same things as them. On the surface it’s sounds ridiculous but if observe behavior, one would have to conclude that modern western women, as a collective, that attraction is symmetrical
Exactly. I bump into this mindset when vvomen don't get why we're attracted to younger vvomen (since they like their men older), and they think having a degree makes them more attractive to men (while we don't care, yet they care more for a man's education, since the hypothesis is that education=higher income $$$).
Women become the men they want and wonder why men find her repulsive
Divorce is never the way out, My wife and I have been having issues before I sort out help from a spiritual adviser,i wasnt going to let my marriage of 18years crash.
amazing,i am kinda in a similar situation,how did you handle it?
@@GregMunro well not the orthodox way but i was referred by a friend to a spiritual adviser and healer
@@user-er9hv4pl2u please how can i get in touch with the spiritual adviser?
@@GregMunro her name is *Victoria Lee Hess* ,and she is a great spiritual adviser as well as caster
you can look her name up online and you will find all you need.
Daaang, the comment about "woman think about the top percent when thinking about jobs" it's very real-life accurate. There's this girl I'm dating and every little argument/disagreement we've had is because she often thinks in the less possible scenarios as base to argue. I even said once this phrase I heard about "exception doesn't make the rule" and she simply said something like "...and what if they do?" They're always thinking on the "what ifs" and I think is beautiful how this should push men to be the centered one and the one who based on abilities + experience is capable of overcoming the challenges in front. Not that a woman can't solve situations but I'm talking about the natural and primal balance between men and women.
Difference is that women feel as though they can bend the world to their will in terms of male mate selection not considering that, in terms of mate selection, it's not about what she wants but also who wants her.
And wants for what purpose ... A one night stand or a mother to his children.
there's no benefit in marriage for women, marriage means to be a servant and children carer to the same ungrateful controlling man. women are better off single. it's funny how men decrying women's fate of not being of service to men. men's awareness is dismal.
With feminism, women have lost the charm. I'm no longer seeking that enigma. Women are now revealed that their choices are only top tier men.
I don't want to chase a woman who will most likely reject me, and keep me in the friendzone just for the sake of it.
"keep me in the friendzone just for the sake of it." no - "keep me in the friendzone just for *her to use me as an emotional tamp0n.."* FTFY.
yeah this 100x, not every man can be a top 10%. It leaves 90% of the men out in the dust. The longer this goes on the more men just check out and the less men women have to select from when they realize the top 10% doesnt consider them outside an equal partner.
i cant blame women for wanting the best but some realism is necessary, i mean your average basement dweller would love a young hot model but how many will get that, likely very few outside of crypto bros.
It seems like somewhere along the way reality was lost.
She's keeping you in the friendzone with an intention: extract your resources (Time, energy, attention & $$$)é
@@mbg9650 A dynamic that 'Passport Bros' are generally not available for...
... they better don't bet on that 'zone' to care if wolves come or tides turn.
No....average to below average men suffer worse. But yes, it destroys women too.
I think women were happier than men on average pre-feminism, and they're less happy than men post-feminism. A woman's life might look great from the outside (lots of sex with hot guys, career success because employers and universities are discriminating against men) but that's the kind of life that doesn't make the average woman happy.
@@HelloWorld-cq1sq It's probably that they're just even with invisible men now. You could be right. But no....the expectations of the average man are just higher altogether.
@@johngalt6838 I will admit I might be a 4 or 5 on the scale of career success and hot and I am not going to settle or breed with a 3 ever. I do not even bother with them at all. If I can not get at least a 6 I am fine to be alone.
If you're an average man that hasn't figured out that you can travel and find a good woman (don't bring a woman back to the west) then frankly at this point you deserve the western women you're stuck with
@@cobrakaiisback4709 yeah...average and below just need to quit validating women. It makes things far worse.
When Feminists think of men they only think of the top and - seem to completely not care about all the other men in their community - but then they're in their late 30's and wondering around going 'Gee, why doesn't my community love and care about me?'
@supremereader7614 when ever men loved and cared about women? i've never seen love and care from men. men are just trying as hard as they can to use women and to squeeze as much juice as they can out of them. this women hate is not going to change course. men should try to give rather than just take, take, take.
Was thinking about this recently: the professional women that would benefit from the financially strong independent women idea are usually the ones that don’t need it. They usually have a strong community foundation that doesn’t require them to work. Those that wild benefit, are less likely to get the security of a well paying professional job.
It’s a fugazi
My wife tried to pull the "woman are equal to men" BS.... so i told her to get the chain saw and axe and start falling the big tree out back...... she quickly realized she was wrong.
She should have asked YOU to take on the risk of pregnancy and childbirth. The US has a higher maternal mortality rate than it should, but YOU will never have to take on that risk.
@@lorrilewis2178 Agreed. That's why I don't want children, and that's where a woman's usefulness ends. problem is, they still ask me to help them for free.
@@lorrilewis2178 nobody did that to you. That's biology. Y'all are waging war on biology😂🤦🏾♂️
@@Metalbringer92 No human's "usefulness" ends at their reproduction abilities. Anyway, who's asking you to do stuff for free? Do you mean handyman tasks? We always pay handymen for their work.
@@Metalbringer92 - Those women who ask you to help them for free probably think you’re a helpful, sympathetic and generous person. That probably the mask you wear. Here you take that mask off. You’re none of those things.
The men who make lots of money don’t also have the desire to find a woman who is successful. Quite the opposite.
Agreed. Although I'll say I don't have a lot of sympathy since they did this to themselves.
They did, but will somehow blame “the patriarchy” or some other boogeyman to sidestep any accountability.
0 sympathy, and 0 shats given.
I have no sympathy for these women. Real life, real accountability and consequences. Deal with it strong and independent women. Men don't want you.
Its not entirely women's fault that the USA is overrated; that said I don't think American women are exceptional enough to be given too much of a pass for this either.
It would be soo much better if men would collaborate. Father's Day is a reminder that men could do more for women.
The laws still need to be changed... a woman who lies to but a man away in prison still gets a pass if caught in that lie... they need to be given that time that they wanted the man to do...
I feel like feminism shames woman for being or wanting to be involved mothers. It doesn’t shame them for producing children, only for taking care of them. Also for being a team player in a relationship. Because when you are part of a team you are not independent enough. It tells you you are weak if you are a team and not the boss. That was the message I got from it as a teen though by the time I was 20 I realized that was stupid.
Yup the message was that if you are not aggressive, independent, and have a career and if you compromise with your man that you are weak. It’s an insulting and shaming peer pressure than is far more oppressive than being a team player and building a family together. My husband doesn’t think I’m a looser for saying “yes dear” but feminism dose
Great channel, so glad I found this. Tons of helpful advice. One point I want to counter however, since I’ve heard it in a couple different videos here now, is that women should pursue the family route while young, and then the career route while older. I think that’s harder than it sounds, because once there’s a few small children running around, the realities of pursuing and obtaining any kind of power career is much more difficult. I think in the modern world, it requires cooperation between the man and wife, to balance, their collective objectives, which can include raising a family and both of them with the satisfying career path. However, if it’s an every person for themself type of relationship, a successful outcome for both is greatly reduced.
They really underestimate how much the life changes for the woman unlike men, it does a total 180 degrees flip. Men just keep living their life how it was before, for the women, their whole life starts to go around the kid(s). It affects literally everything. Career, personal life, social life. I have a few female friends who actually regretted getting kids first. So in the end, its really about understanding yourself and what you want to get out of life and persue it, theres no wrong answer. Trad wife? sure, thats fine, as long youre not being a d*ck, career woman? thats also fine, yet again as long youre not being a d*ck.
When I told someone I’m bot ambitious and I’ve never dreamed about working (on the contrary, I dreamed about not working jobs, but stay at home and have some kind of passive income) everyone would judge me and it used to make me doubt myself. Now the more therapy I’m going trough the more unbothered I become, moreover sometimes I like to tell people some stupid things, for example when they ask ‘But what do you do?’ I reply ‘I do my best’, or ‘but what you bring to the table?” I say ‘berries. I do foraging. I like to walk in the forest and can do this everyday without days off’. I’ve started enjoying people’s reaction to this 😂 try this if you’re tired if these questions.
Yeah.. I see more and more that first dates are job interviews for dudes. Thankfully, I can count the number of times that has *ever* happened to me on one hand, if *at all..*
I'm similar. Lived simply and frugally enjoying travelling and nature as much as possible, as well as foraging and growing food, cooking, fermenting etc. Nearly 50 and most people think I'm early 30's. Sure i used to feel social pressure but trust me it gets way easier. I'm at a point now when many people who used to be disparaging have admitted that they are jealous.
Society wants women too choose career over a family. This brings emptiness because we are nurturing creatures We are not men. Embrace our differences
The only issue with Orion's advice for women is that in your early twenties you are young, dumb and make bad judgments. Imagine a guy who gets total access to a massive trust fund when he turns 18... most would squander a lot of it (cos when most young people either weren't taught very much about money even the ones that were can easily be lured into flashy items or the false promise of get rich quick 'investments'). Some things you can learn with just theory, but more often we learn through practice. And practice takes time. So most people, in this case women, will need to make some mistakes and/or learn from watching other peoples' mistakes.
Some would say that parents should be involved but a lot of people's parents are divorced, don't understand modern dating or are just bad.
Young women are often easily convinced by false promises of commitment and a lot of them don't even realise how much leverage they can have because a lot of them are insecure and have compared themselves to moviestars, models and instagram. I know I did. And some people just need to work through their baggage. I used to wait hoping that I could convince a guy to like me, or earn his love instead of just moving on. I'm pretty sure I learn't this from my parent's dysfunction because I observed my brothers relationship issues were quite similar.
I myself I wanted to settle down young, have kids and then have a big old career once they all started school but that didn't play out. I had my own issues that I mentioned above but more recently I realised that I couldn't really find guy close to my age at the time who wants to settle down and build a life together (I live in a capital city). I'm now at point where I can move somewhere a bit less liberal where I think I'd find guys who are more like minded.
I don't mean to say Orion's advice is bad; just that a lot of young women may not be in a good position to take that advice.
Before "the movement" young women would be educated about the realities of life and men by more experienced women. Turns out a lot of old fashioned "Grandma" advice was actually accurate and evolved for a good social reason. Imagine if that movement actually put it's energy into educating young women as to the realities of life, instead of deluding them and making them angry at those realities (often after the damage is done)....
@@fiveleavesleft6521 I see what you're saying and yh that's all good. BUT I feel like women get labelled as 'bitter' when they teach younger women these things so this gives them reason to automatically dismiss them, until they themselves get burnt.
Example: If my dad or my brother tells me "men are lying pigs and they only want one thing" then we'll all say they are protecting me, but when I myself have repeated this sentiment I'm told I'm bitter and should chose better but am also told to lower my standards.
Example: If my dad or my brother tells me "men are lying pigs and they only want one thing" then we'll all say they are protecting me, but when I myself have repeated this sentiment I'm told I'm bitter and should chose better but am also told to lower my standards, which means I should accept bullshit from guys who are at best going to waste my time are at worst going to cause me harm .
A lot of (not all) the time, It's men who say this cos its to their advantage to do so. When I've seen older women say it about other women giving this kind of advice they are usually the women who basically martyr themselves trying to keep/chase a man that's no good (accepting domestic abuse/ cheating etc) cos they are afraid of the shame of divorce or fear being alone.
My mother wasn't and isn't a good mentor for this, if not for the mass of content Ive consumed online I probably wouldn't have figured things out. All of the childfree women who are labelled as selfish, bitter, ran through etc have given me some of the best advice, not because I want that life but because they talk about what to watch out for and WHY?
But most will dismiss them as bitter feminists who are causing the destruction of western civilisation.
@@seraphina2293 he is talking about your grandma or your mom or older women in your life. you listening to these random older women on internet is like men listening tp re6p!llers. they only have vested interest on the movement they subscribe to based on bitterness not your future as individual.
@@seraphina2293 never listen to internet older women lol
he is talking about your grandma or your mom or older women in your life. you listening to these random older women on internet is like men listening to manosphere. they only have vested interest on the movement they subscribe to not your future as individual.
Feminists placed Amber Heard on a pedestal ("she is a victim") and even after her dark traits were exposed during Johnny Depp's defamation feminists still doubled down and sided with their poster girl. That boss girl get out of my way banshee movement lost the rest of its credibility from that point onwards.
amber heard is a victim. i wouldn't wish johnny depp on my worst enemy.
@@chelsy2255
Amber Heard is such a kind woman.
Instead of punching Johnny , she hit him. Truly a gentle soul.
@@chelsy2255no she isn't. just another abusive women who got exposed.
@@Acetvn-kg6ty She lived through an abusive relationship. I wouldn't wish Depp on my worst enemy.
@@chelsy2255 You mispelled she with "He". And you're right. I wouldn't want my worst enemy to be with amber either.
Good... she's her OWN...Boss.....we Men can...go MGTOW... don't Marry or be Financially.. Emotionally responsible for THEM!!.... Feminism has given Freedom to Men to live.. Happy... Wealthy 💲🤑 ..Free... PEACEFUL... B1
Great discussion
I always say the same thing feminism is the best thing happened to men. If they know how to use this
It's the best thing for Chads and bad boys. Not the other 90% of men.
@@Gigaover it is it completely freed us from the mindset that we need a woman to be happy
@@Purheit Well, in terms of happiness for the average man it's: be with a good woman > be single > be with a bad woman.
Feminism means that some "be with bad woman" men are now single and that's a plus, but feminism also means there's way fewer good women.
My favourite exploit for the past 20 years has been to provide that ‘liberated’ feeling to young women. They’re oblivious to the self-harm and welcome it with open arms… and legs.
It’s the worst thing that ever happened to society.
I've listened to the entire longer talk, and now this segment. It seems to me that what we're really describing is a group of people that literally cannot accept affection from 99% of the population, and still feel worthy of loving themselves. Not my problem. They are snacks. Nummy snacks.
Problems arise only when you try to treat them as sustenance.
They'll realize some day that the man they're looking for to commit is dating like a hot chick in her early 20's.
If they accept affection they will be "weak" and "submissive". This is against Alpha Predator law.
it's not clear who are the people you're talking about. i take it it's about men. men are indeed disfunctional.
You have multiple aspects of feminism which basically boil down to the career focused segment of feminism and the misandrist authoritarianism. I’m more or less indifferent to the career focused part of it. If anything I agree that anyone should be able to do what they want, what works for them and what they’re capable of in terms of work. My issue is with misandrist authoritarianism, and there’s a strong confluence of feminism and traditionalism that work together to form a really bad form of gynocentrism for men.
What modern men dont comprehend about feminism, is that my grandma lived with an asshole for 50 yrs that never showed her any love after he got his sons, my aunts and their female friends, lived with alcoholic assholes for 40-50 years thinking it was their "duty" to tolerate a shitty spouce, i saw my mother get treated like crap until she kicked my cold callous self centered father out to the curb and my step father loved her for the next 20 yrs. The amount of shittiness of the quality of the male treatment of women, who felt "obligated" to stay with the di¿khead, has a history going back for hundreds even thousands of years is indescribable and the generations of subjugation is incomprehensable. I come from a long line of alcoholic abusive men and i made sure my daughter found a quality guy, and shes happily married for 14 yrs, whereas im widowed and single at 53 and cant find a single, white, non drug addict, non alcoholic, working man my age and i have resorted to companionship with fuckboy younger men that have their shit together, but i still have hope theres a 50ish quality guy thats around the corner.
Yep. Love to see it
I cannot agree more, with a big sigh, and feminism makes sure EVERY woman loses even if she doesn’t believe in it. It took me almost a decade just to come at peace to be a stay home mom, with all the things going well any woman would wish for except this career part. I still have this pressure in my chest when I am asked “your occupation?”
you're lucky to be able to be a SAHM!
@@nannuky1128 Yes she is. And perfectly oblivious to that fact as evidenced by her post.
its made by those who arent conventionally attractive for the eyes of men, so they were losing out especially if they are aging. they see the men and compare themselves and think why are men independent but not me.. it comes from resentment. but its good sometimes though. they added brain power to economy and made humanity grow faster
I remember looking down on the female friends/acquaintances I had, whom got pregnant early. To be entirely transparent, I thought the girls involved were already pretty dumb (and somewhat unattractive) in the first place.
15 years later, the only women in that circle with children are the ones who got them early. All of the other women were too busy with their careers or vacationing that they're now 35+, stressed, single and childless.
And, looking at the current child birthrates: the only women who did the ESSENTIAL work are the mothers. Nearly every other women in that circle ended up doing largely somewhat useless jobs (as essential contributors to society).
Ok well if you have that funded by your husband, kuddos to you. The point is, what about all the women who don’t? Feminism helped them.
In reality, no one can do everything and no one can "hack" everything. And regardless of the gender, single biggest source of BIG money and being a BIG boss is inheritance. In any given generation a lot more of men and women inherit the big money and status than make it from scrap. That's simply how the world works. Don't buy the unrealistic fantasy that will not only fail to come true, but also stop you from realizing your possibilities that are actually realistic.
You are wrong. most millionaires are self made
Wealthy women inherited their wealth. Wealthy men earned their wealth. That's what The Millionaire Next Door book founded.
@@hanooi7450 Whether they are self made or inherited themselves, whether men or women, their next generation is not self made but inherited. Being self made is not inheritable, but the wealth itself is. One group multiplies by dying, other does not.
Schrödinger's feminism.
It is not so much that women wait to get married for a salary. They are in their sexual prime and trade their twenties for experiences with the top men.
Hot chicks in their 20's want to have fun. Finding a partner in a LTR is not a concern until epiphany phase.
Doubleplusungood crimethink, comrade. Off to Room 101 with you.
Came here because your video on the symptom pool demonstrates rare insight, even in a field where they're supposed to be so much of that. I haven't even watched this one yet but pretty sure nobody with a reliably measurable IQ (
I think feminism is no longer an issue. Entitlement.
They may have been sold the fantasy, but no one was forced to buy it. Simple critical reasoning skills expose the lie, but for the majority the "prize" is all they see.
Unfortunately, women think they are unique, not realizing they've been played.
Feminism is the economic, political, financial, & social equality of the sexes. The "Superwoman" "girl boss" trope was a capitalist version of feminism. Promoted through main stream media. But that type of feminism failed women in that it put the onus of changing solely on women rather than on BOTH men and women. So it was incomplete. My grandmother's generation mostly relied on gender roles where women were responsible for domestic labor and childrearing & men for financially providing. Then my mom's generation grew up in the post 70s feminism when women flooded the workforce, and in the advent of birth control and roe v wade. The problem for my mom's generation was that in an effort to "do it all", they found themselves both being domestic/child caretakers AND financial providers. That kind of stress took its toll on them and my generation (& younger) took note. So feminism failed to have men's change keep pace with women's change such that men take on more domestic/childcare responsibilities as women took on more financial responsibility, thus evening out their roles.
As it pertains to the sexual revolution, feminism failed in its execution there too in that once again, change only came from women instead of it coming from BOTH men and women. The feminist goal of reaching gender equality could've meant encouraging both genders to have sex "like women" (being emotionally invested & pickier). And as a picky young woman 20 years ago, I went in that direction which is why I used to "slut shame" men for not being picky enough & deeming them wreckless and irresponsible with their "seed", health, & future, and thus I'd judge him to be a liability and unfit to be my future husband and father of my kids. But the sexual revolution instead went in a different direction encouraging both genders to have sex "like men" (being less emotionally invested & less picky).
Side note: I know that saying "women sex= emotionally invested & pickier" while "men sex = less emotionally invested & less picky" is a gross oversimplification, I was 19 at the time and I quickly saw how unfair & judgmental I was being towards men. I've now settled on the opinion that a person's promiscuity is not my business unless it results in harm such as:
1) wrecklessly causing an unwanted pregnancy;
2) wrecklessly spreading STIs;
3) wrecklessly causing emotional harm (i.e. cheating, sex related manipulation, etc)
And this applies to both men and women.
As for encouraging women to settle down in their 20s (currently average age of 1st marriage for women is about 29), I don't know about that advice. If women are expected to "vet better" then on average she's going to have to be given the time for her brain to approach full development so that she has the discernment & maturity to actually choose better & handle the bumps in a marriage. I say this considering that one of the biggest predictors for divorce is the young age of marriage. Instead of encouraging women to first pursue dating over career, I'd say to do both while in their 20s. Figure out what you want, then date and have your career simultaneously. I say this considering that increasingly, cross class unions are down trending while same class marriage is uptrending. Probably because as women reach various & higher career levels, they get access & exposure to more types of men (including more desirable men).
@ec6621 WONDERFULLY SUMMED UP
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Totally agree
Great video! The one thing that stood out to me was suggesting women start their careers in their 30s. I have heard that the 20s is essential for developing your career. Is this still true?
It was never true.
One thing you do not recognise is what old fashion feminism has brought to young women - it is the bargaining power in their youth they never had before. If a woman has her youth and fertility as the only barging chip in her hand then it is very little to claim independence when she has marriage and children to take care but the guy gives no space and freedom for the development of her education or career. Nor she has any financial independence to make her basic decisions on her own. A young woman with kids is very vulnerable. We all have only 24 hours in the day and raising kids is a full-time job already. Do you really think that a young woman has more capacity with kids to grow and develop her public interactions? Though women have had the right to vote since the last century's twenties it has not easied the way how women can balance out their wish to have kids and be meaningful out of the house and kitchen as well as influence the public sphere. I recognise that feminism has its shadow side as liberty and independency brought higher standards for women to ask more from men than only provide some financial security (which bad men often abuse as a power to control the woman) and many women are trapped in this highly delusional power woman image where they think that man is not needed at all so they can be the top dogs solely, but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. As feminism has given talented women the opportunity to be active and recognised in public, it also brought men closer to their children, giving them the right to be softer and loving towards their family, being more in contact with their feelings without losing their masculinity. And also they do not need to have the full financial responsibility alone and women do not carry all the family matters, kids and care alone. We do not want to get back from that. You agree?
Feminism is better for women's autonomy but worst in terms of intersexual dynamics. Its not thats it's better or worst, its just a tradeoff.
Tradeoff for women. Not for men. Men don't care as long as they get sex. And I say this as a guy. This is why feminist use incel as insult because they still control sex and use it as a weapon. For men it's lose lose.
@Mark Park Explain to me exactly how we're worst off for it. Because it seems to me that in terms of relationships, yeah it's much harder for the average guy to convince a woman to get with him but that's not the end of the fucking world. Plus that's a good thing.
Feminists forget that being treated as equal to men also implies having the same degree of accountability and responsibility.
I always find it funny that anything that might be used in such a way that would share an unfavorable light on female nature is now called misogyny.
... and responded with Shame, Insult, Guilt & Need to be right when it doesn't go her way.
@@mbg9650 Yup. They always resort to SIGN language when they are cornered
... and it implies for xx.s same degree of fundamental disposability (as aberrantly assumed for gents). at the latest naturally as per bio.clock run(ning) out, no time recoverable. but out. period.
I work as teacher and I love my job. I would love to be a therapist too. I think studying and working is not with the purpose of becoming a CEO, or anything like it. I think we need to work and study to develop our minds, to grow as a human being, to develop discipline. Women are in a vulnerable position if they don't have their own income. And that is what needed to change.
Rollo Tomassi / The Rational Male said he would like to interview you (even on a remote basis) in his latest live stream (around the 50 minute mark). Not sure if you would be interested in doing this (?) but if you are interested, the offer is there. Would be great to hear you both discuss relationship goals, exchange of value, love in marriage, hypergamy, evolutionary biology, evolutionary psychology, how to maintain a stable marriage, etc.
Here's something I found when researching the relationship success of financially successful women: Research by Folke & Rickne further elucidate the significance of hypergyny and
pragmatism in their finding that women being promoted to “top jobs” (i.e., local mayor, national parliamentarian, or CEO) resulted, within the first three years, in close to double the rate of
divorces then those who were not promoted. These promotions led to taking on the position of primary breadwinner in that they began to generate over 60% of their household’s income.
Men and women are not, and never will be, the same!!! As a woman, I want to be taken care of. It would be a relief to have a man support me in my goals. It makes me feel safe and I’m then able to trust him to do what he needs to do.
We probably have to teach the new gen of this ourselfs specialy within family.
"Boss women" often end up becoming some accomplished dude's side piece, some fuck boi's rotation, or having to take care of some sorry dude.
Most successful and highly educated men with options are not going to marry a 30-40 year old woman looking to a have kid before its too late. As men age, they have more options, plain and simple.
Because boss women aren't relationship material, no man wants to date a man inside a woman's body.
he's totally wrong, the black guy, many people like to work, if you're good at something and if what you do has meaning, you enjoy working, it's a source of pride.
I remember the late 1960’s as I was a teenager then and on TV cigarettes were advertised to women as in the 1920’s as symbols of their “liberation”. That’s when “ the pill” really pushed feminism into high gear. To question that you were treated with contempt and disdain. Now 50+ years later feminists are still playing that game though it has become tired and worn and women are less happy than ever as the evidence everywhere is that it it is a loser philosophy. BTW you might notice that few if any politicians now men or women claim to be feminists like Justin Trudeau who just got separated or divorced ( the media doesn’t make this clear) in the last month. They were quick to realize the tide has turned against feminism which might lose them votes.
Can you please talk about courage, where it comes from and how to develop it?
read Psycho-Cybernetics by Maxwell Maltz or whatever he is called (an American plastic surgeon). The book is about something else, but I think there were 2-3 detailed methods that could be used to develop courage. The book also has plenty of other good stuff.
You can't build a carrier after 28+ if you were home with the children until then because you don't have work experience, also your boss will fear that you will miss a lot from work because of your kids.
You can't build a family after 28+ because you already blew your most valuable years footing accounts for some faceless corporation. Enjoy your cats
Majority of educated and qualified middle class women pursuing careers in India are getting married after their mid twenties , and in their early thirties , after they are settled in their jobs / careers. They are having children in their late 20 s or early 30 s. Whether it's an arranged marriage or a love marriage. Best thing , they have the money to keep a cook , a maid , a nanny and enjoy some leisure time and quality time at home with their families. A good job with a good pay cheque is worth the effort and worth going through the process of having a career.
@@shyamalidasgupta671 Oh okay. Are you in India? I'm not in India/ I am middle-aged. I see the women I graduated high school with who decided to be girl bosses. They live in poverty and take fistfuls of psych meds
@@shyamalidasgupta671 Your 'middle-class' Indian women are already privileged because they can exploit the labour of the masses for just a few rupees. Either wealth increases throughout so the Indian poor can move away from the drudgery of serving your parasitical middle class, or the poor stay poor and human misery remains. What are you in favour of?
@@LastOne155 it's the horrible clothing women are hornswaggled into wearing these days. Black hefty-bag PANTS everywhere. Makes even young slender women look like drudges. Tell me this sort of gender invalidation doesn't contribute to the pill popping.
Yup. That guy on the left's client? She's with "Steadman" because she's not in her prime years / 20s anymore. The men that she wants / at her level or higher - they are dating 20-something year olds, *with fertility.*
Good.
This was so cool! Orion made his statement completely without involving into the discussion!
Nah I think y'all have it wrong here. Feminism is a very varied ideology and there are many feminists who've taken strong positions against "girl-boss" feminism.
"what do you want?"
I stopped asking people that question, especially women. it's because not only they can't ..won't answer it, they then get upset that I even asked 🤣
that question I now pretty much reserve for people who are acting all righteous so I can enjoy watching them squirm (ahem.. feminists among others).
I already know the answer and would be impressed if one actually had the guts (doesn't happen) to say it.
that answer is- "more."
No. The answer is: That question is personal and intimate. It’s none of your business. Unless you’re making me an offer. And if you are, what is it?
@@annesmith9181 ah, that's a good one! I now know what you are, we're just negotiating the price, right?
when we're in a situation of bartering rather than sharing, the price will always be too high ..for me.
@@mobilemcsmarty1466 Ow! Burn baby burn.
Dr. Taraban has achieved his goal of getting more people to listen to this you tube talk , and write _ respond. He is very smart in phrasing his title & choosing his topic .
I think the key point is that some women just don't want to be women. They want to choose what they want to be, which is in conflict with their nature because if you as a women think that your career is the most important think (personally) I think that you miss the underlying structure of nature which is being a good mother and having kids. But maybe im wrong :-)
I told the last girl I dated that a value the FIRE principle (financially, independent retire early) because I value my freedom. She was a feminist, and told me that working made her feel free. So I told her that they wrote “work makes you free“ on the gates of Auschwitz on our second date. We didn’t make it to a third date.
5:15 you make it sound as if that was a reasonable choice but is it really? your chances of finding a well-paying job when you're older and have no experience are very low, and in case you need to find one as a woman because your husband suddenly dies, becomes unable to work, cheats on you and leaves you, or turns out to be an abusive psycho that you have to run away from with your kids - that's a scenario that I would wish on no woman, and yet these things happen all the time. You just cannot be sure the man you're deciding to spend your life with will be around, or that you'll want him to be around. If you want women to make that choice, you need to make sure first that men are not going to abuse their power, or die or get into accidents. And you can't do anything about the latter.
And women somehow Angels
What about if wife died who will take care of the kids especially if the man work for at least 12h
What about women who cheat of their husbands when their husbands in the work and they discovered the child not his child
Women do bad things all the times
@@waheedali2429 this is not what this discussion is about but sure, let's get back to the good old whataboutism and steer back to men and their issues under a video ABOUT WOMEN
Just go be a femenist, let us know how it works out
Yeah I see very few women getting married and having kids and then developing their career. It’s just way too difficult at that stage - kids are a full time job on their own.
I found a simple solution for women who don't want to be abused.
Make better decisions. Its so simple, women need to stop playing the victim when they actively choose shit men.
Do you have a podcast?
By the sounds of what the guy on the left was saying, the problem these girlbosses have is that they they thought they could have an equal relationship. You can't.
Pretty impressive how PsychHacks is managing to piss off both men and women with this title. That's skill.
How so? I don't think anyone but you is getting offended.
It's such a hacky title for a quote" professional outfit"
Offended by a title? Time to get offline guys
@@59oasiscafe it's a fact, research has conclusively proven women since the 1970s have been getting unhappier, a period within which feminism has gained more traction. Feminism was never about making women happy, it was to ensure that women worked so they could be taxed and that the state got control of the minds of the young via the school system so they could be brainwashed. It was also to destroy femininity under the guise of equality so that women become more like men, hence destroying the natural sexual dynamics between men and women (population control).
I wish that women actually understood what men desire from them. Most men, especially today, know what women want from men. We do our research. But women don't seem to be as interested in learning about what men want from them. It's more like they try to tell men what they *should* want from women. It doesn't work that way. A lot of women don't start asking that question (what kind of women do men want) until it's already too late. When that happens, then both women *and* men lose. Now today, it's so bad that a large percentage of men have just checked out of society. They don't have jobs, aren't looking for jobs. It's the opportunity to get married and have a family that motivated most men throughout history. Take that away, and men just become extremely apathetic. We are in for some serious dark times here. Unfortunately, I think things will only continue to get worse.
It's because women do not think logically, they think with their feelings.
When men actively tell them that they don't want a woman with a high body count, women will argue against them because they feel attacked. We are not allowed our own preferences.
women know what men want form them, that being the reason they don't want men around. very one sided. so you're saying women shouldn't have any say or demands in relationships and shouldn't mention anything about their thoughts and feeling, they should just accept men however they choose to show up. would you do that with women? it looks like men have demands of women and they are entitled to express them. one way traffic with men. any brains there?
@@chelsy2255 ...that's not what was said at all.
@@jayc342009 well, i think you need to read again. i've just done it myself. it clearly saying that women should just be dumb. but then they would be blamed for being dumb. so they cannot win, that's the whole point. no brains at all. It's a very wishy-washy senseless comment full of mistruths, the person who typed that is out their mind. How would men get the opportunity to improve themselves if they can never take any feedback and criticism? that's just stupid and lazy attitude to life. i wouldn't like that kind of life myself. who wants that kind of man around. I'm not interested in a jobless man that cannot take feedback and criticism and cannot contribute to the relationship. who doesn't want to work to better themselves? A man's purpose in this man's world is to provide and to protect. as they say in quantum physics you have to become the person you want to attract and have the exact qualities your looking in that person. so these men who have expectation in women that they cannot match are unreasonable and shouldn't be winging on youtube. they should just accept that they're just not good enough. It's perfectly fine they checked out of society, that's their choice and their own responsibility, why blame women for this, for men's failures and inadequacies.
truth
There are always two sides of the coin , and multiple aspects of reality. In India the trend for majority of women is still ( societal expectations and pressure)- get married early , and get a 'good husband ' - the latter term being ambivalent . Those women who find compatible husbands who can provide financial security, and these women who are happy / satisfied being home makers, are okay. What about those women who do not get compatible partners , nor the financial cushion to lead a decent life ? Also, there will be exceptional cases among women who have the intelligence and the physical capacity and attributes to do very well in careers , to be movers and shakers with the capacity to be wonderful leaders and bring about change. They will be able to do it if they are supported by their parents , husbands, and in-laws in matters pertaining to family and child rearing. Career and family do not have to be binary choices, if women get the co operation and team support. I have seen it in India. It happens in Asia. Why can this not happen in the West ? It is a good practise that helps women - both careerist and home makers ( and their husbands as well ).
If women did not exel at/and invest time , energy , and effort into what they are good at, and passionate about doing ( apart from marrying and raising their children ) - and I repeat these should not be/ need not be binary choices ( i.e. either marriage or career ) - then the world would not have some of the wonderful contributers in the various fields of arts , science, commerce, music , acting, politics, psychology, medicine , in fact every thing. And why deprive women of their choices and right to self actualisation/ self fulfillment. Remember, Maslow 's hierarchy of needs - applies to women as well. And remember the contrast between the victorian period and modern times in terms of women's wonderful achievements outside the home and the hearth. Team work , and support from extended family goes a long way to help everyone. Telling from lived experience. Also , the history of society in modern times includes his story and her story. This is true of not only big shot achievers but also ordinary women
@@shyamalidasgupta671 Feminism has not notably led to the massive contribution to society from women that you claim. And your assertion that this would occur if only women were supported more is unprovable. Men still make by far the greatest contributions to human advancements and women opt for less taxing paths.
@@shyamalidasgupta671 As a matter of fact, I have met a few very successful and hard working women in my own career. The thing is- they are as far removed from feminism and all this support this and support that, as you can imagine. When it comes to work they put their head down and start working instead of asking for support from society or their families. Most of their husband are below them in career ladder and those women don't mind that(as far as I know). They were never on dating apps, don't seem to go to expensive vacations, don't use social media very often and married average men in conventional manner(AM and such).
@memesofproduction3 that is one version. I am a successful career woman - associate professor in a College, and I am speaking from lived experience, having worked in 3 Colleges and 1 university. All my female colleagues have done very well as they got huge support from parents and in laws , who were nice enough to help without the women having to ask for it . This is the beauty of joint family & extended family in Asian cultures. And all my female colleagues, myself included, have equally well established & educated husbands, and we also enjoy our leisure as much as we work hard. There are many types of realities .
@dharmadasa66 I request you to do proper reading up and research on the topic of Feminism . Also, dismissing women's contribution to society and to the family does not change facts / reality. It merely reveals a rigid mindset, lack of awareness, and lack of respect for women. I am speaking from experience- as an Associate Professer having taught/ and still teaching in 3 Colleges and a University. Women have progressed in leaps and bounds and are doing great, whether you appreciate it or not
The lie is in the name. Feminism isn’t about supporting women to be women (promoting and valuing the nurturing role). It’s more about ‘we want what men have - freedom from responsibility’. Men behaving badly is what led to feminism. Devaluing the nurturing role was never the answer. Us men holding each other accountable was the answer. We failed women and they had enough and decided to get selfish too.
I didn't see them storming any beaches.
There is a generalization - in the statement that being a feminist is being selfish. Just as stating that all men in a patriarchal society are selfish . It is better to focus on the realization of one's core values as an individual, nurturing and developing the good qualities in ourselves, and addressing the minuses in ourselves. No one is perfect. No two people are the same. Each and every different man will have different needs from relationships and different expectations from life , and the same is true about women. One formula / one size doesn't fit all.
Both sexes are the victims of the economic and cultural destruction of a once great Republic by the Zionist elite at the top. Their financial guru, the pervert Keynes even told us how it works on the financial side:
By a continuous process of inflation, governments can confiscate, secretly and unobserved, an important part of the wealth of their citizens. By this method, they not only confiscate, but they confiscate arbitrarily; and while the process impoverishes many, it actually enriches some....The process engages all of the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and does it in a manner that not one man in a million can diagnose." - John Maynard Keynes Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920
@@shyamalidasgupta671 True
@@shyamalidasgupta671there is no patriarchy. And if noone is perfect applies to both? Then why are only Men called out for bigotry and not women?
I know a lot of people will attack by saying this a re two man talking about what a woman should do or be, and yes men have no idea of what being a women is or feels like and the other way around too. Sadly I am in my 50's and now I see the world in a different way, I remember looking down at young woman who will be pregnant in high school thinking they have cheated themselves out of an opportunity to become someone better. That idea we were fed is so wrong, because of the biological clock it is in women best interest to become mothers in their youth, also the level of maturity and growing that becoming a mother offers is priceless. And I agree, women can join the work force later once their kids are in high school. Then again, time has shown us all of this. Thank you Dr. Taraban for all the content you make and share with us all!
depends, i seen many in the smoke hole in HS those i were fuck ups and many later in life did hard drugs or are homeless.
4:47 - 5:40 - truer words have never been spoken! What I want to know is, why do feminists think getting married and having kids is not a good idea? Or why is that secondary to a career? They've been told all men are a--holes, so they go into a relationship defensively. You can have your career later, when your kids have grown out of their early childhood years. It's much harder to find a partner when you're in your mid 30s and later. What they also don't seem to understand is, if you act like a b*tch, no guy is going to want you. But so many of them act like that now, that a lot of guys would rather stay single than get involved in a relationship that's going to be an unhappy one. Unfortunately, if you wait until you're 40 to get married, and have kids starting at 41 or 42, you pretty much have run out of time. You might be lucky and have 1 kid. When you have kids and both spouses work, it's also really hard to juggle everything. Driving to work, driving the kids to day care, getting the house clean, taking care of dinner, taking care of life's every day problems, etc. Sometimes you hve to work late or commute really far. It's HARD. And this is with your husband helping with these things. It's STILL hard. I know a lot of men in decades past were awful to their wives, but that was not universally true. I remember many successful marriages from the older generation, and women in those relationships were happy. The whole situation is just sad. People thought feminism was going to make things better - but it didn't. A lot of these women have careers now and are older and single, and they've missed the boat on a marriage and kids because it was a secondary priority for them earlier in their lives.
acting like a b*tch women learned of men. there's no reward in being married and having children while men are womanizing and making money for themselves. at the end of marriage women are left penniless, wasted time, burn out, health issues and not being able to start again. women are better off single.
Most women not all do everything backwards.
Women dont lose anything. They would be left alone anyway... society is just too greedy. Everyone is living like theres no tommorow.
The most true statement ever told.
No thanks, I am going to still appreciate my feminist husband and my carrier I love and the rights I got because of feminism.
Ugh.
It's career. I guess you girl bosses don't necessarily have to use proper English
what right(s) did you get from feminism?
what right(s) do men have that you don't enjoy as well?
We will see how that ends.
Until you want better.
Not all men want women in the 20s…I’ve seen early 40s get married to alpha men.
38,000 dollars in the 80s was equivalent to 238,000 now 38,000 dollars is scraping 😂
Right on the money Chazz, 100% truth.
Give vvomenz absolute freedom and they organize themselves into harems for the top 1% men.
Most woman works at retail jobs where they stand 8 hours per day, and call that a career.
Instead of making you sandwiches for 10 min a day, they make it for 8 hours a day in order to cover for rent LOL.
And they still say " yaaasss Queen!" When talking to each other. Or " stunning and brave"
@@SquarishLink He didn't ask for sandwiches femcel..
@@SquarishLink He didn't ask for sandwiches femcel..
Both sexes suffer when they approach relationships from the Trransactional school of thought, which is the perspective highlighted on this Chanel. People of substance of both sexes crave the love/soul-mating perspective which can nullify transactionalism. Everyone else wants a great bargain.
How do you look 14 and 40 at the same time?
The worst thing about most women is that they don't like it when the same ultra strict selction criteria is put on them.
I glowed up recently and I can't date anyone because when I ask women to hold themselves to the same standard of care, they get mad. I go to the gym 5 times a week for 1.5 hours, get home, do an hour long self care routine before bed, do a stripped down 15 minute self care routine in the morning and I eat healthy... So of course I expect to date a woman that puts in the same effort.
A man can't get infatuated by an ugly woman and I need to a gal be pretty enough to infatuate me so I can romanticize her and myself.
Strawman argument. Just because this guy hangs out with women in the top 1% financially, does not mean the vast majority of women are trying to get there. Most women just want a well-paying job and aren't concerned about being the boss, just like most men aren't the boss. The number one field that women go into is the healthcare field.
Most women aren't going to marry and have kids before they can provide for themselves. There were generations of women who did that. They couldn't leave abusive husbands once there were kids to support. Not only did they suffer, but so did their kids.
You're failing to appreciate the risk women take to marry and have children if there's no safety net in terms of being able to be self-supporting if necessary. It puts women at the mercy of their husbands and women KNOW this.
It's a lot harder to get an education after children have arrived, and even more so if you're trying to shield yourself/your children from a negative or dangerous home environment.
Strawman argument. Assumes that when women are not financially independent they are likely to fall prey to abusive husbands.
@@psychacks The point here is that woman having an income on their own can leave the husband if he become abusive. It's reasonable position to take and I've met women who were open about it.
Oh no! Let's make decisions based on "abusive husbands" since the probability is so good of ending up with one since us men are almost all soooo abusive!
@psychacks yes, they are. Especially in your ideal scenario when a woman is having children in her most fertile years, early 20s, aka with little to no life experience, not fully developed brain and just stepping into adulthood. While her husband is should be an established person financially, with men's supposed prime being his late 30s and up. It's just a recipe to get oneself into a dangerous relationship dynamic where one party has all the power and the other has none.
@@JohnSmith-ks5xw I grew up with an abusive father and a mother who couldn't leave. My father's father was also abusive.
Most sane people would rather not place themselves at risk.
I dont know what he's talking about. I consider myself a feminist, have been happily married for 20yrs and we both work.
I just lost the love of my life who was a staunch feminist. She has literally no idea how her feminist beliefs have helped place her where she’s at in her life right now which she is admittedly unsatisfied with. Literally everything is men’s fault. Very little self accountability.
Honestly, I find it shocking that these 2 men don’t seem to get the intrinsic issue: independent survival. When you came to find out that some of our grandmothers had to chose between getting their heads bashed against the washer machine and eating, you came to realize that you didn’t want to be a slave to a man and wanted to have a profession so if the day came when he did you wrong, you were able to walk out of the door and find a job. Women can be abusive too, But men throughout history have not been in the position in which their survival was in question if they didn’t take physical and or psychological abuse. That’s the position women have been in throughout history. That’s not a position that we have wanted to be in since the 60s. You can call it “boss bitch” or analyze our 20s vs 30s etc, it doesn’t change anything. We want our own and don’t want to be abused to have it.
I agree with your statement 100% but there's a lot of truth to what these gentlemen got to say. It doesn't negate the experience of women in the past who had to stay put with abusive husbands and had no financial independence.
Two truths can exist at the same time even if you can logically argue that the other truth doesn't favour yours. Try to see the truths as mutually independent. But it doesn't mean men want to cancel feminism. Many men have mothers and sisters and have seen them go through what you have said and they would do anything to keep situation of women improving all over the world.
This is your feminist brainwashing. Were some women abused? Of course. Some women are still abused. But the feminist narrative is that husbands abusing their wives and controlling everything they did is what was normal. And that's simply not true.
The sad truth is that throughout history that's 99% of men too. I am not one whit more responsible for abuse than you are.
Their definition of it is different than yours. Your definition is the original, and that's pretty much reached its goal. Their definition is basically what has been invented through the internet from complainers and haughty people. Since no one is ever on the same page due to different definitions of the word, it breeds nothing, but fights and complaints, so there is no point in discussing it or focusing on it.
No ,they are not losers ,i'm great enjoying my freedom, independence and being my own boss. I still meet good guys and i dont plan to get married ,i just enjoy them without having to be their second mommy. I liked your content at first but this channel should be branded as red pill
Lol if you date men that want you to be their second mommy then you pick wrong men. Masculine men don’t need that. Nowadays most men know how to do all the chores and the only thing we search for is companionship and sex. Also we don’t want to get married because why would we? So we loose in court when things go south? Orion is really right, in the end women will loose it all and all thanks to the new wave of feminism.
Enjoy your cats.
Good guys = Simps. That's why you said second mommy.
@@freeman405 you can call my guys as you want ,i enjoy them
@@JohnSmith-ks5xw okay redpiller
You'd think being a feminist would be about acting feminine, supporting kindness, being friendly, being a great wife. Sadly no.
good subject and would like to hear/study more but, the commercial time far exceeds the content time. It is probably out of your control but, really no one wants to have to go through 15-20 mins or more of commercials for 8 mins on content. no way and that is too bad
Do you realise there are some women who don't actually WANT to get married or have kids??
@dianeran1984 Exactly! Very strange generalization for a "psychologist" with a PhD...
He is talking about women who raise unrealistic standards. Not about women who chose to marry.