ARMY INFANTRY VS. MARINE INFANTRY | What Are The Differences?
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- Today I bring on SGT William Powell to talk about his time in the Marine Corps, what he liked about it and why he chose to get out and the join the US Army. We also highlight some of the differences between the two branches, and much more! Thank you so much for watching and supporting the channel! Give the video a thumbs up and subscribe if you haven't already for more!
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Aye, but the Army giving out that $40,000 bonus for infantry. The Marines? You get that 64 Crayon Pack bonus.
Borat lmao
LOL
I’m dead 😂😂
plus a coloring book as an added bonus! 🙂
The Army is giving out $40,000 dollar bonuses because no one want's to join anymore since everything has become so politically correct. Today's military is about appeasing radical feminists and SJWs.
I was a infantryman in the army it was rough you do what you have to. In my opinion anyone who chooses infantry no matter what service are brothers.
The difference is in the jaw line
They do that with chin ups
the book was way better for sure! Lol AIRBORNE 🇺🇸🇺🇸
Yeah I wanna do army but I ain’t tryna be fat like marine is pure muscle
@@kevinestrada7382 I mean depends on mos, marines can be some chubs too
@@kevinestrada7382 Marines Be fat AF a few months after they get out.
In the Marine Corps, I did a lot of training with other branches. Most of which was with the Navy. (I was in the Air Wing) I think the most important thing I learned about the branches is, there is no “best” branch. Every branch in the United States military is the best branch in the world at what they do. Need the doors kicked in? Call the Marines. Want the Block leveled? Call the Air Force. Want the neighborhood stabilized? Call the Army. All the while, the navy will hold down the seas and the coast guard will stay ever vigilant of people in need. Nothing but love for my brothers and sisters in every branch doing any job, from cook to commander.
"Once a Marine always a Marine"
I've trained with other branches however the Marine Corps isn't a Branch of the military service in all actuality the Marine Corps is an annex of the Navy so I wouldn't say that I was crossed training with the Navy due there wasn't anything thing in my career rather the D.I.or being a Marine Corps Recruiter that I didn't have a daily interaction with Navy personnel due there's not many Marine Corps Bases that don't have Navy personnel.
Also as you as a Marine know that the very emblem The Eagle Globe and Anchor, represent that we as Marines cover Land Air and Sea....so I'm not following your portrayal maybe because I of my MOS in the FMF, everything is relative Ooh Rah Devil Dog.
Had Marines in my unit at Bragg and in my Airborne class at Benning. Most were pretty cool, but a few were little punks. We had a few Marines at Bragg who got out of the Marines and came back into the Army. They liked the Army better because you could rank faster as long as you were good and squared away, the Army had more challenging schools to go to like Airborne, Air Assault, Ranger, Sapper, Jungle warfare, Pathfinders, Green Berets, Delta. They were way more impress with the Army's equipment and gear. They loved being a Paratrooper and the challenges to go with it.
Michael Nettles Don’t get me wrong. I loved being in the Marine Corps and I have a lot of pride in it. My analogy was simply to point out the intentions of each branch. The Marine Corps is an expeditionary force. It has never been the intention to go into an area for extended periods of time and stabilize it. We CAN and we DO. But that’s not the intention. We get there, do what needs to be done, then leave. The army is much better suited and funded to be somewhere long term and stabilize an area. I don’t think that is, or needs to be a knock on either branch. It just is what it is. The point of my comment was regardless of the branch(or department of the navy) you prefer, each is the best in the world at what they do. As far as my experience with other branches. My MOS was 6338 F-35b avionics. The majority of my interactions with the Navy, Air Force, and the Army were in my schoolhouses. However, as you pointed out, I did obviously see a lot of the navy once I hit the fleet.
@@devon9453, I agree with your accessment for the most part, but would add that the 75th Ranger Regiment is a special op light infantry that goes in and kicks the doors in and would be called upon before any Marine Infantry unit would. The Marine expeditionary force is more inline with our 82nd and 101st Airborne Divisions, very highly motivated units, but not Spec Ops like Rangers, Seals, Green Berets and Delta. You're exactly right about each Branch having their own specialty in what they do, and they all do it very well, and we're all on the same team at the end of the day. Good luck Marine and thank you for your service.
I can’t believe I found this. Sgt Powell was my section leader, and later platoon sergeant for a significant amount of time in my unit. I literally can’t believe I came across this video
Back when I was in high school 30 plus years ago. I was in the Army JROTC program. I did see a lot of what the Army was all about as a kid. There were 3 of my classmates in JROTC that did end up joining the Marines as infantrymen after we graduated because they really wanted to be Marines. During high school I did take the ASVAB during my Junior year 3 times so I got a better score each time I took it. The Army recruiter was the guy who made me take it every time when it came up. I got the ASVAB study guide and studied it and took the practice tests. My 2 Army JROTC instructors were both retired Army Sergeant Majors. They both kicked my ass for 4 years in high school. One was Infantry the other Special Forces. Starting in 9th grade I started doing PT by running, swimming, push ups, pull ups, and sit ups etc. till I got into Basic Training at Ft. Benning after graduation. I did talk to various recruiters from all the services. My serious conversation was with the Marines because they looked up my ASVAB score and they liked what they saw. My GT Score at that time was100, even though I was an average student. I just studied harder with my ASVAB study guide. The Marines offered me every technical job they had from being every mechanic, aviation, electronics, and never mentioned infantry. I say I was impressed. Then they told me how hard Boot Camp was going to be and how mean the Drill Instructors were going to be. They didn't lie about that. I saw a movie from the late 1970s called The Boys from Company C starring R.Lee Ermey. I then asked them if I can go to Airborne School on a contract enlistment as an infantryman? They told me no because Airborne slots are very rare in the Marines. They told me that you have to be selected when you volunteer for Force Recon after when you get to your regular Marine infantry unit. Then I made up my mind after talking to them, I decided to join the Army to be an Airborne Infantryman. I then went to my Army recruiter. He told me the same jobs that I was qualified for in the Marines. I told him I wanted Airborne and Infantry in my contract. He told me I was an idiot because my scores were way above for 11 Bravo Infantryman. So the recruiting staff looked up for Infantry with a Paratrooper slot. 10 minutes later they told me they can't find one for both. They had was basic 11 Bravo. I then said "Oh well I guess I won't be signing up." I was about to walk out of the office until the E-7 who was the station commander stopped me and said "Hold on son. Give me 20 minutes to see what I can do for you.". After 20 minutes that E-7 was calling and yelling at people from somebody up in Army Human Resources that finally they got me an Infantry and Airborne contract. So I enlisted in my junior year delayed entry program until high school graduation. Graduated Basic, Infantry School, and Graduated Airborne School. Memorable times as a young man back then.
reddevilparatrooper I didn’t know the Army had a delayed entry program, I thought only the Marines did. Thanks for your story it really helped ✊🏾🇺🇸.
reddevilparatrooper awesome story. thank you for your service. really made me think. i’m gonna be a junior this year and i’ve wanted to join the army since my freshman year
@@jasonBourne24= Don't let the recruiters BULLSHIT you or lie to you! I know these fuckers have to make their quota to fill those jobs that DA Department of the Army wants to have filled. This year starting this Summer before October before the fiscal year. The Army needs more Infantry. Airborne, Light, etc. Get Airborne Infantry my Man!!! Look up Google they have big bonuses for Infantry. I have never regretted jumping out of airplanes and being a Paratrooper. I am an old fart now at 52 years old. I jumped last year out of a WWII C-47 for my unit reunion in Texas. You will see guys wearing Marine hats, stickers on their cars and trucks with Marines on them. For me I just laugh. I sometimes ask what these old farts like me did in the Marines? I found out few were Infantrymen or Force Recon guys. The Force Recon guys are very proud and elite like Airborne and Rangers in the Army. Many of those Marine veterans were cooks, clerks, mechanics and other MOSs than Infantry. No disrespect to those veterans about my age. These guys even avoid me at the VA when they see my green patrol cap with Airborne Wings, Jump Ovals, and Black and Gold AIRBORNE tab on top. Their stories about their past service cannot say how dangerous their job was when we were younger. My 2 badges I have truly earned in the US Army was my Combat Infantry Badge and my Jump Wings. Those 2 are my life story. Be proud to be an American.
reddevilparatrooper Thank you for the advice 🤝.
reddevilparatrooper this is a great story and great advice. For you younger guys or people that are joining the military, take his advice and also check out my story too:
I joined the Marines at 17 and a half because I wanted to be infantry. Nothing but infantry. I was also a young impressionable kid that thought he had to believe and do whatever his recruiter told him if I ever wanted to be a Marine. This led to me NOT getting an 0300 contract because one day my recruiter told me that I could not go infantry and I had to accept a air wing contract if I wanted to be a Marine. It’s not that I was scared to say no, it’s that I didn’t even know saying no was an option. My five years went by and I never, ever got to do the job I set out to do. I regret my poor decision every single day and I don’t feel fulfilled with my service. Reddevilparatrooper is COMPLETELY right. Get the contract you want before you do not have a choice. Don’t end up like me. Best of luck with your service.
I did the same thing as him and went from Marine infantry to Army infantry. The Marines were definitely more disciplined, but in the Army they fought just as effectively, but with a better overall quality of life. I loved my time in each branch, but at the end of the day I deployed and saw combat with the Army, not with the Marines. That’s why i’ll always consider myself a soldier first.
I don’t know what branch I should join. I wanna mainly focus on which mental and strength training is better and which martial arts is better. An example is who would win in a fist fight. A marine or army soilder
@@j.a.f5305 That’s really not a good way to decide. Are you planning to join the military so you can win more fist fights? Maybe try MMA instead. Your question isn’t answerable mainly because there are thousands of individual marines and soldiers with varying degrees of skill when it comes to fighting. Being in a specific branch doesn’t inherently make you a better fight than those in other branches. Figure out what you want to do in the military and the weigh the pros and cons of each branch.
@@aLbotTV ok I’ll see more of the two sides. But it’s so hard for me to decide, I want to focus on training. That’s my dream is to be the strongest fighter in the world. And my first step is either the marines or army. I do not mean to disrespect the branches but I’m trying to get some ideas, more details for my future. I’d like to decided for 2 years if possible
@@j.a.f5305 It’s not disrespectful at all! Boot camp in the marines may be better training than army basic, but it depends on your mos. If you go Infantry then Army Basic will be longer and possibly on par. The reality of it is, is that Basic Training or Bootcamp is literally just the basics. You learn everything in your unit and in more advanced schools. The Army has much more opportunity when it comes to schools. In the Army If you have a good PT score your unit will send you to any school you want pretty much. I have rarely seen guys who were fit that asked to go to a combatives course get turned down. In the Corps you had to get really lucky to go to any schools, a lot of which happened to be Army schools anyway.
@@aLbotTV Yea in the army there is infantry man and Special Forces which is more intriguing. Thing is after I’m finished with either branch I’m planning on going around other countries to learn other martial arts. Like jiu-jitsu, wrestling, boxing, takes info, kyokushin karate, kalaripayatto, akhara and many more, so I don’t plan on going to any schools. What’s beneficial about the army special forces is because of there 40k bonus. And it’s more interesting because the training will be much more intense than a regular infantry
You can take that "pride" all you want. I'll take that E5 rank at the 2 year mark with the Army anyday of the week.
Same
Yeah promotions suck in the marines and is one of the reasons a lot of marines switch to the army infantry. In the army you could be an E-7 easily in 8 years if you are highly motivated. It might take 15 years to make E-7 in the marine corp even if you’re a bad ass unless you are a DI who happens to get selected to be a DI instructor
@Joshua Walker yeah I'm referring to it being fairly common for people to make E5 rank at the 2 year mark.
I've served in US Army 2004-2012. 11Bravo, Air Assault. 101st ABN Div. I had a guy in my Unit who also did 4 years in the Marines. He said the biggest difference in training, is that Marines paid much more attention to drills, marching. etc.
Leg
@@celestialtony5623 funny to hear from a civie, or from a PX Ranger, CAB chasing POG who is trying to be clever or funny by calling me a Leg. I ain't no Leg NAP. Served all my years in 101st Air Assault.
@@SectorSos ok, calm down.
“When you’re working with Army and Marine Corps units, you immediately notice a difference. The Army is pretty tough, but their performance can depend on the individual unit. Some are excellent, filled with hoorah and first-class warriors. A few are absolutely horrible; most are somewhere in between. In my experience, Marines are gung ho no matter what. They will all fight to the death. Every one of them just wants to get out there and kill. They are bad-ass, hard-charging mothers.”
― Chris Kyle, Navy SEAL, American Sniper
@@BJJBarbarian Jesus, not THIS shit again! Please read the book, bro. And read what Chris Kyle REALLY said! smh -_-
This Marine is being very humble 😂
Im a lover not a fighter, thats why I did 20 yrs in the US Navy as Hull Tech, thank you for your service. J. Ortega USN Ret.
Bonuses are cool and all, but you don't join the Marines for the money. I sure as hell didn't.
,Well said Marine Semper Fi
Could be why Army personnel are always driving nice cars and live in decent homes off base while Marines are always broke dicks!
Alright boot.... Yeah totally... I didn't join for bootcamp to be a "breeze." I wanted my Drill Instructors to set me up, and put a peanut butter packet in my assault pack in hopes of getting me dropped after 6 weeks into training. I wanted my next pack of tards to single me out 99% more so much that they put me up against a guy that was 3x my size during pugil sticks so that my bone in my leg twisted around and broke my femur, because when I knocked his ass out he landed on top of me. I wanted to spend 3 months in MRP and STC. I wanted to be made a PEB and spend 8 months looking after retarded RSP kids, and mow grass from there to here and from here to there. Remember leatherneck square? Yeah I mowed that.... But hey, 3 months went by and after all that I graduated. :)
Only took my entire first year of service to graduate. But I did it, and I don't know how other branches go about it, but god the Marine Corps' Med Boards is fucking retarded. The Marine Corps is pretty much retarded all way around. Leaving what's complicated and requires thinking up to the Navy to figure out. :/ It tells bunches that this guy was in the Marines and now he's in the Army lmao.
Re: On my crucible a kid snapped both of his legs, and I still to this day pour one out for the homie. Poor soul is probably still in STC waiting to get discharged. :(
@Far Out Man I'm done with it though man. I think I'm done with the military in general. Thinking about switching to the army or the airforce, but I need a good year or two long break. I just got my dd214 in January.
@Far Out Man I'm an 1141 Electrician bud.... or was.
Thank you for the post, love it
His honesty is so refreshing.
Really well put together video, definitely a helpful video with good info!
this video is perfect timing for me, looking at both
Unless you are doing the military a career, I would suggest picking a job that helps you outside the military.
@@ChaoticBean794 thanks , I'm looking at IT jobs right now
Me too. #ARMYSTRONG 11b!
Skyler Koneferenisi if you want a combat role join Marines. The thing they left out was the values the Marine Corps focuses on for boot camp. They mostly save the combat for SOI. Yu won’t regret being a marine but you might regret not joining
You dont have to be a masochist to be infantry. But it helps.
Not infantry but a combat engineer(we suck massive dick too lmao) and for some fucking reason the field puts a big ass smile on my face it's not that I like it per se but I'm always in a great mood. Honestly only shit I hate about the field is thinking about all the bullshit we have to do when we get back lol
@Chris Davis oh i feel it i fucking hate it to and ache like a bitch(just did squad live fires last week bounding like a quarter mile with a 40 pounds of demo and full kit like 20 times. But for some reason i always smile even as im bitching its weird
This is a great video, always good to show the true side of things and help the younger generations that will come after us make a good choice for themselves without adding in any of the biased hype or hate on the branch you don’t like or aren’t familiar with.
I’d like to add that when he was talking about billets, the fact of the matter is if you are on your second or third contract, the USMC usually wants you as a Corporal or Sergeant to do one of those billets for three years, otherwise known as Special Duty Assignments (SDAs) or B-Billets. Do not expect to get by without your name coming up on the HSST list. One thing they would often tell NCOs is “if your name comes up for a certain SDA, you WILL go to the screening. IF you pass the screening, I guess you have to go do that SDA for 3 years”. Not everyone wants to do an SDA though. Food for thought.
Pretty much on point! Good job
my squad leader at Fort Drum was former British Army soldier. Jesus, his 2 mile run with 55 pound Ruck and without was the same 11 minute. every Monday was 8 mile run and Friday 12 mile ruck march. that was terrible. also he was 36. i am not going to say how many push ups and sit ups he did. he was straight savage. he pushed me so hard i raised my PT score a lot. miss that times. climb to glory. light infantry
Ben really is an underrated interviewer, especially if he’s working with no script which is what it looks like
Wow thank you! 😌
Ben is a 10
Thank you for the vid! Waiting on my waiver to get signed then to meps, then to get my ship date!
Very helpful video, I am stuck between marines and army and this definitely helped me see the differences, I mostly want to do marines just for what he said, the pride and the workouts and I want to discipline myself. But the army sounds much more beneficial, maybe it’s just about all the work you put in, I don’t know what I’m going to choose but both are great!
Abby Pichardo army is much more beneficial.
Jeff Wentz I actually ended up enlisting in the marines.
@@abbypichardo1655 Infantry?
Obvious POG is obvious
I fucking love that dude he know what its about 💪🏽
Great video; thank you.
Infantry is infantry in my opinion. Whether marine or army any infantryman knows its tough
Also definitely check up with this guy in some time and we can see if his opinion has changed cause 5 months is short
Interservice rivalry will never end. The more important issue is radical feminism destroying our military both Army and Marines. Take a look at the documentary I put together exposing the truth.
Army is not tough
Based on what?
@@baldcat_2378 try ranger school in the army and tell me it's not hard
Nice video, good commentary. Not enough people have the guts to enlist in any grunt unit, so my cover(hat) is off to you.
Old veteran here. I'll tell you what I've learned over the many years I've been alive. Currently Marines are very popular in media and pop social platforms. I remember back in the seventies, everything was Army Special Forces, TV movies and such. Then in the eighties it was Rangers this and that. The nineties hit and everything is Navy Seals across the board books movies. For a while its been a little of all of them but now its Marines, I say let them have their day in the sun. By the way old Army Grunt here. Rangers lead the way, Semper Fi, and God bless everyone who ever put on an American uniform.
The Marine Corps taught me how to be a leader. My success and the success I’ve helped others achieve I directly attribute to the intangibles the Marine Corps has engrained into our culture.
Semper Fidelis
Outstanding Job to Both of you on this Vedio. There are Differences but the advice is to make a choice to serve and be Honrable. Marine or Soldier when years have past and we are no longer in uniform and meet in civilian life we have a bond that civilians do not understand. We Served our Country
In the civilian world of business we tend to stick together and bantering is a thing but we all have respect.
Great vedio
from this Corpral of Marines
When you have to eat a sh-t sammich,,, does it really matter whether it is Army or Marine Corps bread?
Hahaha
Best comment on here kudos
@Johnny Mack So,,,, "Mother Green" makes a better sammich??? (Me too,,,, the company you keep is the difference!!)
funny stuff
"If you're not where you wanna be hold yourself accountable"
I love that and I'm writing that shit down to remind myself
Awesome! I remember most all of it. I remember going to the field quite a bit. Kind of like it👍🇺🇸🤠
Rock of the Marne!!!!!
Semper Fi Gentlemen!
@@airborne82nd61 I wouldn't give a bean to be a fancy pants Marine I'd rather be a dogface soldier like I am!
Fuck I was definitely going for rangers but this guy’s wise words made me rethink the whole thing. Now I have to go find myself because now that I think about it I’m not sure on what I want. Great video, I’ll definitely share this with my friends.
Light infantry like the 101st was nothing like you said. Nothing easy about it.
@BenAllen. Out-Fucking-Standing, good sportsmanship is the platform on which you stand. Kick ass, take names, pop smoke... ‘Rah!
Nice vid 👍🏼
17:14 "personally I don't like running" *joins the infantry*
MegadethDude2001 lots of road marches in infantry, I loved them but did not care for the running.
Joined the Marines in ‘98. Mostly because I watched “Aliens” (1986), a few too many times. Not ashamed to admit that, because everyone I served with said that movie played a big part in them choosing the Corps over any other branch! Wanted to be in the band, but got forced into the Infantry. Semper Fi 🦅🌎⚓️
Did you go to war because 98 was a few years before 01 attacks on new York
"The safest place in Korea was right behind a platoon of Marines. Lord, how they could fight. The Reds [communist troops] told us they were afraid to tangle with the Marines and avoided them when they could be located."
-Major General Frank E. Lowe, US Army
Vets from RCT-31 Pissing vinegar in rage for being absolutely ignored.
11X shipping out August 19th. Thank you for the video Ben
oh hell yeah maybe ill see you in benning, shipping out august 19th 11x as well my man
Same here man ill be in Benning on the 19th!! Goodluck to you.
@@ernestogonzalez-pimentel471 oh hell yeah man, its right around the corner, im so ready but so not ready at the same time 😂
Bigbrother171 LMAO same 😂
@@ernestogonzalez-pimentel471 feel free to add my snap tlg22198, be great to meet people heading to benning when i am, might even run into eachother 😂
If u get a chance it would be great if u could do a video on waivers and more specifically moral waivers
Did both here as well....Marines do hump much more weight...usually no less than 65. Army grunts are good to go.
A GRUNT IS A GRUNT!!!
So you think that 11B's have no fighting spirit? No discipline? You can't be Infantry without discipline, sir. People will die, as a result. You guys are hilarious! Apparently you've not been to places like Bragg, Benning, Campbell, Hood. Man, where do you guys get this shit? BUT, since you've piqued my interest please tell me, what are these so-called variables, that make MC Infantry superior to Army Infantry? I'll wait...………….(this oughtta be good)
@Dale Ross
Wow....So that's all you've got, huh?? Hahaha!! That HAD to have been the most infantile response I've seen to date. The funny thing is, I didn't expect you to answer anyway, because you know you don't HAVE one! You're so full of shit. LMAO!!
You can debate the Army vs Marine Corps all day. What we really need to be talking about is how radical feminism is destroying the Army and Marines. Take a look at the documentary I put together exposing how bad things have become.
@Dale Ross, would disagree with you big time buddy. I had marines in my Airborne class at Benning who failed. Had former Marines in my unit at Bragg who ETS out of the Corp and came back into the Army. Their biggest complaint about the Marines was outdated equipment, less challenging schools to go to, and slow promotions. They said they would starve to death in the Corp. They said they would have went Army if they had chance to do it all over again. They love our challenging school, and our equipment and duty stations way better.
@Dale Ross yeah and you were a delta ranger seal too
Well im gonna finish this in the morning but as an 11B our rucks have never been less than 60 even in basic. I think that's more subjective to your leadership climate. I was sent to a stryker unit in AK but that did not change our PT standard. But I have heard that light units are a whole lot more intense about it.
we had a marine who joined army in my unit and he said he love the infantry just not all the petty bullshit the marines deal with daily
Brothers
I was an 0331 and 0311 in the Marine Coro and in the Army I was 11B50 ,13BSF,675.10,and 11B5H.
I spent four years in the Corps and retired Air Force and I worked with a guy that went from Air Force to the Marines. I made Sgt in two years in the Marine Corps Air Wing but I switched when they told me to make E-6 I had to go to the drill field or recruiting
I think the big difference is the equipment given to each unit, I was in the Army but I seen how Marines are given better rucking equipment, body armor & vehicles, but they are forced to take care of what they have because they don’t have the budget to replace a lot of stuff. The Army on the other hand can break a bunch of stuff repeatedly & replace it before night fall, plus we have better equipment when it comes to rifles, support staff & larger supply of warfare tech like thermals, CROW systems & schools available
I have same route, just I sent a bit more time in the Corps. I think I joined the Army the same time this dude did haha. Stay frosty gents. Rah.
It's really one's point of view.
whichever makes one happy and a better person.
If the Army makes you serves best, do it! Same with the MC
Army and Marine infantry has the same vocation: grunt combat!
The army pays more and promotes faster for the same job. Also gets better gear and can afford to train more often. Should've went army. #pissed off 0311
Too bad , deal with it
Sucks to suck
Tijuane Morten you’re gay ass knows something about sucking huh 🤣
Tijuane Morten these people go into countries all around the world to fight in wars and have a high chance of dying just so people like you can go to your job without fear of getting shot up on site because of something you said. I can’t believe people have the audacity to disrespect people who give their all to protect people who give them nothing!
The Marine pride is priceless
One talks with his hands. The other doesnt. I wonder which one's the marine...
The change is forever. Even though he transferred to USA, those Crops ethos still permeate though-out the interview. Different breed, trust me.
The marines take beaches but the army captures nations.
Marines take what the army couldn’t maintain
Aaron Juvik Marines ain’t shit without the navy or airforce!!!! Respect the Army
Aaron Juvik that’s like the exact opposite of how it works marines take land then the army maintains it
Ricky Covvarri army aint shit without the marines retaking what they lost
Blake Davis yeah in theory boot
25th Infantry! Army airborne. I love Marines, I trained with them, and I would never take any of that back. I would never disrespect Marines. But Army, all day long! When I was in Iraq, the Marines defended and the Army fought battles!
Like Fallujah?
Like Fallujah
Interesting
Damn John Kohler, I served with the 25th inf in Vietnam with a guy with your name! We started out at cu chi, then they switched us to the 4th inf in August of 1967. We were both in co a 1/14th golden dragons he was wounded at red hill near duc pho in nov 67. I lost track of him after that. I was wounded at a place we called lz hardcore in feb 68. The John kohler I knew was from Illinois. Damn fine soldier. Welcome home john
Mech units are definitely easier. I’ve served in the 25th, 1st, 101st, and specialized units. Fort Riley (1st ID) was longer work days with the Bradley’s and maintenance, but easier in the field (lighter personal loads, driving over rucking, etc..). Schofield Barracks (25th ID) a light jungle warfare unit was physically more demanding (12-30 mile rucks, heavy personal loads 55-100lbs, more field time) but shorter workdays with more long weekends. So light infantry units will really put it on you. Most of my career was light infantry, infantry scout platoons, and specialized units.
ArmyRetGuy Schofield loves to run, I also went through the first iteration of jungle school before they started passing out tabs, people in Schofield always get made fun by big army because you’re in Hawaii but it’s definitely physically demanding & weather never stops training
Newy Gee Yeah, it’s definitely a hard station, especially true in the late 90’s. I did more rucking there than the rest of my career combined. I’ve walked till blood was coming out of my boots with every step. I will admit though, being in Hawaii was nice. Yeah... you do way more field time, and as you stated, weather never stops training, even on Big Island at Pohakuloa where it gets freaking COLD!! Time off and the surf is amazing though. I miss the beaches!
I feel like there was a lot of rhetoric about how the Marines were the tip of the spear and how we'd be kicking down doors and kicking ass. Granted, maybe our discipline may be a lot better, but who really is out there kicking ass? During my time in the Corps (13-17) all I heard about was how this or that army unit was deploying to combat zones while I really only went to the pacific to party and very few Marine units ever deployed to any combat zones. Maybe during the peak of the wars the Corps really was kicking ass, but nowadays, it seems that the army has all of the deployments.
Yo that’s what I keep telling everybody like people just don’t understand like this is not the 1980s with a 1940s or the 1990 or the 1990s do you know it and that’s why I was telling one of my cousins that join the Marines I told him listen you’re not gonna regret it because the Marines 80 to 90% don’t even see combat people are just too ignorant they have a very bad misconception of thinking that you’re just lined up to die and it doesn’t go that way
Budget, it costs money to deploy. Marines are broke, (compared to their branches). Deployments are shorter too, 6months max for marines, army would be in country for about a year.
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@Ben Allen, you never really discuss the different between Army Infantry vs Marine Infantry. Like shooting and combat? are Marines more trained than Army Infantry? how well trained are Army Infantry?
They’re all trained for what they do. No one is trained “more”. Simple as that.
We make do with what we have. Since we are under the Navy we get those scraps. At the end of the day we fight the same battles mentally and physically. USMC
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@@TheBenAllen. I'm in the process of joining originally i went to the navy but they didn't want to grant me a waiver for a tattoo i have so the army took me in the two braches are kind of fighting over me cause navy recruiter wants to use me as a number for his qouta and the army is trying to transfer me over to them so its been about 3 weeks of me waiting on them to transfer me over but im looking to do infantry airborne i look foward to it but the waiting game is just a drag
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I went from being a Corpsman to army infantry. Maybe because I was at hood, I felt the army was a disappointment. We didnt train like we did in the Marine Corps, at hood we sat in a parking lot and when I asked about training I was told "we will when we go to CA". I did everything with my Marines and in the army I couldnt tell you who our medic was. Also every higher up in the army was trash. We had a guy that just came back from Iraq and was being reclassed to 11b and when he brought up the tradoc regs about reclass and prior service in training, the e9 took the reg from him balled it up threw it in the trash and said "we do what we want". Everyone has different experiences but this was mine. 14 yrs before I got injured and retired.
Yeah hood I've heard is pretty trash. But the disorganization and shitty leadership honestly is army wide theres definitely some great leaders but for most they have no idea what leadership is
Wow, glad I never went to hood. I never served in a lax trash unit.
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“When you’re working with Army and Marine Corps units, you immediately notice a difference. The Army is pretty tough, but their performance can depend on the individual unit. Some are excellent, filled with hoorah and first-class warriors. A few are absolutely horrible; most are somewhere in between. In my experience, Marines are gung ho no matter what. They will all fight to the death. Every one of them just wants to get out there and kill. They are bad-ass, hard-charging mothers.”
― Chris Kyle, Navy SEAL, American Sniper
They still do the underwater level in the marines? (I’m talking about the escaping the sinking carrier trading)
Some Guy yes
It’s a helicopter mockup and you’ll do it if you are going to work with helos. So for Infantry, most likely yes.
In my Unit 1/7, We never had pack lighter than 80, and the gunny would weight them before hikes.
As a US Army Airborne Infantryman Combat Veteran of the Panama Invasion and 1st Gulf War with the 82nd I had a few prior service marines that ets out of marine corps and come back in the army. The biggest complaint they had toward the marines was outdated equipment, not as many challenging schools to go to, and slow promotions. They like the fact that the Army had Air Assault School, Airborne School, Pathfinder School, Sapper School, Ranger Scool, and of course Green Berets. Most of those marines were good soldiers, but did see a few not make it through Airborne School at Benning though.
I wasn't going to sign into like this post, but they really broke down the stereotypes in this video. I Ws a Nastygirl (they know what that means) when I signed on but spent over a year patrolling southern Bagdad with Marines under my care, so you never know where Uncle Sam will send you. You only know whether you're gonna make a decision to do what you know is right in that moment or live a life of regret.
So I'm in the DEP for the Marine Corps, and I only qualified for jobs in the combat support field and another field that I didn't like or caught my interest. Initially, upon joining the DEP, I was planning to get an infantry rifleman contract (0311), but I fell 3 points short for my GT. Instead, I asked if I could do another job that was in the infantry field, but they said no. My whole life, I grew up having the dream of becoming a United States Marine and also getting rifleman because I knew I would be great at it, and now I can't have it and I might have to stop pursuing the Marine Corps. When my recruiter said that I couldn't get riflmen, I felt down, like my dream had been taking away from me, but I didn't argue that much with him. I ended up picking AAV (1833) because that was the only solid option. Though, I know I'm wasn't guaranteed that job due to me scoring low on the ASVAB, and I felt like my mos would later on change in boot camp to another lower score mos like a desk job which was what scared me the most because I wanted an active job like infantry. I've read online that your mos can change in boot camp, and I didn't want to take that chance, so what did I do? I went to an Army recruiter, and I was 100 percent guaranteed infantryman (11b). The first step to transferring to the Army was to get a discharge from the Marine Corps. Of course, it's my recruiters job to keep me in. He asked me why, and I said because "I wanted infantry." He went on to say,"If you want a branch that will push you to your limits and motivate you to do better, then the Marine Corps is for you, otherwise join the Army because it requires lower standards and a lack of discipline." He also said,"If you join the Marine Corps and ever want to switch to another branch, you won't have to do basic training again, and your rank will remain the same. In the end, he told me to really think about it and to get back to him when my mind was made up. So, where does that leave me? In the middle because I really want to be a Marine because it's been my dream but I also don't want a job that I may not like. On the other hand, I want the Army because I'm guaranteed the job I want and I know I will love it. My overall goal in the military is to be the best of the best, which would mean doing special forces, and I plan on doing more than 20 years, depending if l like the military. I don't know what to do guys. Please help me. I'm 18, btw
Join army
Retake the ASVAB
The Marines come with all of its equipment to include air power because it must sustain its self and can bring on additional forces equipment staged on meritime prepositioning of ships. Marine can fly into country and take tanks, trucks, and ammunition off ships; example during desert storm we sent battlions of artillery, and took artillery and eqipment from off the ships. During desert shild Marines suppied the Army with food and ammo that was a Airborne unit at the beginning of the conflict. I am not saying the Marine Corp is better I am just saying the Army has a different mission but we are on the same team. I speak as a retired Marine who spent time with the Army and Navy and God bless.
Keeping it simple.
I'm currently studying for the AFQT to enlist in the Army. Definitely want to be in a tank or 19 Kilo
Why study if you want to be a 19k? Requires no brains tbh
O I'm a 19D, but yeah.aint hard to get 19k
@@JsilntParkour90 any enlistment bonus for 19k these days?
Studying to get into the army? Lmaoo you dumber than your statement implies if that’s the case. Just go sign up!
I'm joing army because in pretty sure I'll stand out alot better but I'm more introverted and serious type person dont get me wrong I got a good sense of humor but hopefully I do stand out and get those schools .
Hey man thanks for all these videos. Do you think you can interview a 19k. I just want more information I’m shipping out in sept as a 19k thank you in advance
If i can find one yes!
@@TheBenAllen. any enlistment bonus for 19k these days?
Pog marines and pog army dudes ain’t shit,grunt forever
I was an Army grunt for 6 years as if you ran your 2 miler in 16 minutes, you would have to do remedial pt.
Man I wish CZcams was around is the 80s before I went to Paris Island. I join the Marines for one reason to be a Marine. I'll never regret it but now looking back 35 years later I probably would have gone in the Air Force. Lol Thx for the video.
Great video! I’m an old Marine Infantryman from the Eighties and when I went to boot camp we had several soldiers that joined the Corps for a tougher challenge (there words not mine). Also one was a Ranger in the Army and wanted to go Recon because his dad was one.
As stated earlier, it’s about really wanting it and pushing yourself to your limits and beyond to be a good warrior.
I think it’s changed since when I was in, but back in my time in, several of our SNCO’s were Recon guys that cycled out to teach spec ops knowledge to us the regular grunts. We also spent 6 weeks in Coronado Cali receiving a lot of water survival and amphibious assault techniques from Seals. Also spent 5weeks in Panama training with Rangers and Green Berets on jungle survival and warfare. Fun stuff indeed. I loved it all! Was training to go Recon (Had passed the Basic Recon Coarse Pre PT tests of that time) and was a 300 PFTer also. And met all my unit requirements. Unfortunately, I was talked into going to a club with friends and ended up meeting the women that became my wife-even to this day. Really regret not going into Recon, but getting out of the Corps turned out to be the best for me and my wife to be.
I will say this, if you want as many opportunities as possible, Go Army! If you want to truly embrace “The Suck” and have pain as your best friend, then the Corps might be up your Allie.
Can’t go wrong either way!
Did the ex-ranger make it in the Marines ? The ones I served with never made it I was with 1/4 weapons co. Dragon plt.
Contary to popular belief among civilians, there is no true rivalry between soldiers and marines. They were made for different purposes (despite having similar things like infantry, tanks, etc.) and are not jealous of each other. They both respect each other aswell as both branches have collaborated multiple times throughout history.
The Marines are first to invade and may get support from the Navy who also fights off other navies. The Army then arrives and follows up with the marines with support from the Air Force.
What world you live in? Marines hate the 82nd, mainly because whenever we cross trained at Camp Davis we smacked that ass. Plus we welcome our dark side making us "whole" they are playing a role.. narcasistic command ( reason their training is longer is learning how great they are and Marine corp. History)
1200 minute 2mile plus or minus 1 minute was average, so I could walk a 9 min mile to make your three mile time.. Marines are egomaniacs (not the actual infantry Marines) claiming they're all infantry. Ask an Infantryman if the gym was open after being released by their command? Most days was at least 2100 9:00 pm. 5 months and knows it all, still an over confident Marine.
I don't know whether to be an army or Marine grunt it's a hard decision since the marines are feared and typically have less time on a deployment but the army has cooler shit.
So even with the extra career opportunities, faster wait times, faster rank promotions, and sign on bonuses.. it's still worth going to the USMC.. I believe it. I never went, I went Army, but I believe there's something they have that the Army doesn't.
I was in the Marines 0331 in the early 90s. I probably would have stayed in twenty years, if not for the fact that we're being used to fight all of Israel's wars.
My best friend’s husband is in the Marines, and my boyfriend is in the Army. I have/had family in all of the branches. 🇺🇸 I am proud of all the military of ours. Thoughts and prayers are with you all. Be safe.
Well I change my mind going army I was literally gon go marines but then after watching this video I'm gon army ..
I’m in the marines dep but I’m getting out to switch because they can’t guarantee me a job and there saying go open contract you can get a cool job😂smh
@@israelramirez1543Good choice, run from that
You always regret not going.
Did both. There was no comparison. Marines. Just add on. I'm getting on in years. I've experienced alot good and bad. In all my experiences I can honestly say that there is nothing in this world that compares or like being in a Marine Corps grunt unit. NOTHING!
John Lothrop nothing? Lmao how about US Army Spec ops? 75th Rangers, SF,Delta? Or any Spec ops unit lmfao wtf
@@a01-x67 He said "Grunt unit" for a reason. Not Spec ops unit ...
Shit even an army airborne soldier is more badass than a marines grunt IMO. Don’t get me wrong marines are some tough dudes and they train well but when do you ever see a regular Marine infantryman have Training in airborne Operations? never only force recon and marsoc. While in the army you have all these extra schools to make you a more elite soldier. Marines are the best in amphibious assaults tho I give them that. Also reg infantry vs reg army infantry goes to marines but once that soldier gets airborne or air assault or pathfinder or even a Calvary unit it’s different.
And those that argue that seals or Better than 75th or Delta is better than this and that it doesn’t work like that. They all excel in different missions.
A01-X6 it’s harder for a marine to get a airborne contract
Well fellas i contract and i do work with everyone so hell i believe a man is only as good as the people training him. Im in Virginia now heading back to that shit hole east again. Keep dropping hammers check your 6 .
I might do vise versa, I might go to the army first, then the military. The reason why is because I'm joining the army when I'm 18, so I can have a bump up when I get out and go to college, then after college I'm gonna join the military.
the army is the military what do you mean?
@@nicklesm202 i thinnk he meant marines
@@trees1922 I get that but if this guy thinks the marines are the only military he’s a fool
I have completed 20 year of service. All service has good points and bad. Ground service is not pleasant weeks no showers, dirt naps, cot rest, food is not the best in the suck , and stand off capabilities is what I most sought.
To max the run in the army is under 13 minutes for 2 miles
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When you leave marines, do you go into army with your marine rank?
Gregory Monacelli yes, sometimes if you get out the marines as an e-4 promotable you’ll be given e5 in the army
These people are idiots. It just depends. How long have you been out? What rank were you? A grade determination is made by HQ. If you’re an e4 and promotable and haven’t been promoted the army isn’t promoting you... that’s stupid
It depends on the MOS you go in as. There were Marines who left the USMC as E-5s but went in the Army as E-4s because the Army needed E-4s in that MOS. So ot just depends
Do I get deployed out of the country on my first year as an infantry men?
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When you understand the mission of each branch of service and their method of preparing for what's in front of them, you cannot compare the overall mindset of that unit or the members within. To cut the chase; the Army are homesteads...
...Semper Fi
Depends on which unit you are comparing to. Army is huge and has high-speed and low speed units. Example, 82nd vs. National Guard units.
@@jasonruggen1511 Were you ever in the military? There is no such thing as a "low speed" unit. The 29th Infantry Division of the VA Army National Guard took Omaha Beach on D-Day and fought the Germans all the way to the Rhine. Show some respect.
going 0311 and then at the split going force recon :P
force recon is no joke, i hope you made it
One big difference is that if you go Marine Infantry you will in general deploy more. You will go on MEU’s or UDP to Oki. For example, in 4 years I deployed to Northern Europe, Central America, and Okinawa on a mini MEU to various places. All in 4 years. Most conventional Army Units don’t deploy that much. Travel is awesome in the Marines.
What is the significance of 'deploying more'?
So if I want to travel and train more go Marine Corps? I’m debating between marine infantry or Airborne contract. Maybe even Ranger? Looking for hi op tempo. Want the full experience.
Rangers are awesome. Lots of money, lots of deployments, and highly motivated, excellent training, extremely disciplined, parachute qualified, and part of Special Ops Command. Rangers are incredible. I would definitely go Rangers but the Marine Infantry, In my opinion for travel to obscure places, is better than 82nd Airborne. But what do I know my knowledge is out dated and old. Deploying on MEU’s are really cool, lots of varied training and lots of different places. Semper Fi and good luck. Also, no matter which you end up in make sure you can run and carry lots of weight. Airborne Units, Ranger Units, and Marines will chew you up if you are not physically fit. Good luck.
@@DJF1985 thanks. Right now I’m starting the process with the marines but I can still hop over to Army for a spicy Ranger contract. They have them available. I’m 6’0 220 with a 22 minute 3 mile. 12 solid pull ups then after the rest are meh. Been an athlete my whole life. I’m confident in making it as a marine and my family has marines but I wanna deploy and actually do stuff. Seems like Rangers is the only option nowadays for that. But folks keep telling me with way things are going marines will have their spotlight once again. My only concern is getting dropped (Not quitting) on a Ranger contract then I’m being reclassed wherever in the army.
I spent three years in the Army. After the experience I would have done the same thing. I just think that I got much better training with the exception of the glory. Which I really don’t think made a great deal of difference anyway. Great respect to my Marine brothers especially Vietnam era veterans.
Right now I myself am having a tough time deciding which branch is perfect for me, I used to have an interest in the usmc but it kinda idk fell out rn I’m having an interest in army airborne but like a lot of people in my home town are joining the usmc even the nerds which idk different.
Army 11B here. Both branches have their pluses and minuses. Army gives you the chance to guarantee an MOS. As an infantryman, more opportunity for schools such as airborne, air assault, Ranger etc. And if you want to do cool guy shit there are Rangers and SF. Downside is that in the big army there are a lot of shitty units, a lot of places are disorganized, and things are less structured.
Marine Corps: Definitely wins in the pride and esprit de corps department. You'll be a badass surrounded by other badasses whereas in the Army a lot of your own development and improvement is on the individual. Downside: don't get to pick your exact MOS and not as much opportunity for schools, and Marine infantry rank up slower.
Also one huge difference I've noticed in the mindset of Army vs Marine infantry: the Army expects their guys to he generalists and jacks of all trades. Marine infantry roles are very specific. You can DM me if you want to know more.
@@ClementYang24 are those the only differences? I'm trying to decide between army and marines
@@G37u73 There are a lot of differences but big picture wise those are the main ones. If you want more advice you can DM me.
a lot of your personal experience in the military will also come down to your specific unit and leadership so there's also that.
@@ClementYang24 what’s ur insta
While I was in SOI our First Sargent had his first 8-point and a Green Beret. I had to ask and he said he loved being SF but the Corps gave him more pride and esprit de corps. One of the 11s was formerly a Ranger, same case. But he did say Boot through Infantry training was far more demanding mentally and physically than his Army experience.
I call BS!! A soldier who spent the time it takes to get in one of the Groups ( 2 yr. Pipeline) joined the corps..... Because it gave him more pride??? Again BS! Those dudes usually stay in for the duration of third career or head over to command or move up in rank in an Airborne unit as an Sgt 1st Class, etc; in order to move on and up into greater things in their Army career.
Join the corps??? For what??? Pride they couldn't find in the Army? Yet alone Special Forces? I really don't think you understand what the Groups primary mission is, yet alone what their capabilities are, and the way they function as an SOCOM asset.
I find your story of a Ranger being in SOI, along with this Green Beret 1st Sgt kinda shaky at best....and highly unlikely.
@@billyjacc - I agree, that's beyond ridiculous. The Rangers and Green Berets (The Seals are the same, I didn't include them only because we are discussing Army), are Special Forces and the pride and brotherhood of being part of one of these elite teams is 2nd to absolutely nothing in the military. There is absolutely zero chances that a Ranger or Green Beret would quite to become a Marine because he was looking for pride, that's such a stupid story ...... bigtime BS!!!
Juan Carro maybe you need to become a marine to understand what pride he’s talking about and read up on why the marine corps is held to such a high standard, I know a couple seals that dropped off of the teams to become a marine later to be marsoc
WHISKEY TANGO FOXTROT those two have never been anywhere but their basement and the COD maps. I went through boot camp and SOI with prior service guys who had more awards than senior Staff NCOs. Just like the video is trying to articulate, each branch has something to offer but it has to fit what you want if you are going to sign off on 4 years a clip. I’ll add this for @steve Papke @Juan Carro you probably don’t even know what “boat space”, “Victor Units” or “Deployment Cycles” are and you definitely haven’t lived the life in the Teams, in the Grunts or any of it to speak for those who have. Leaving one branch for another is somewhat common even for elites. You’ve got to take the path that’s best for you, especially if you want to make a career out of it.
@@rms-vp6hf - I love the dramatic basement comment, insults generally come from those who have been called out and exposed for making up attention seeking stories.
It's beyond ridiculous to argue that you know a guy who has successfully passed the extremely challenging SF selection process, (that only a very small number of the Candidates achieve), just to become a POTENTIAL member of the elite Special Forces. An then argue that he successfully completed the even more difficult to pass SF training to become a full member, just to realize that he just really didn't feel the pride. So, then he quits the SF'S, become a grunt in the Marines and realizes that this gives him the pride that he was looking for.
No, I have never served in the Armed Forces but it doesn't take a genius to make the observation that the members of the Specific Forces are the most tightknit and elite personnel in the Military. The number of servicemen who qualify to be members of the Special Forces, are less than a third of the members of the Marines ..... combined. I have had family in both the Army and the Marines, they babble back and forth about who's better, but, none of them dispute how elite and special the Specific Forces are .
Off the rack vs Tailored Fit ..say's it all.
the different is , to looking at them I can told you who is the Marine, I am been both branches, Army can PT everyday but never look even, I can recognize a Marine for a mile away..
You can't even spell correctly. How can we take you seriously? I bet that even though you "am been" in both branches, you were more than likely a pog in both.