LoRa/LoRaWAN tutorial 5: Decibel, dBm, dBi, dBd

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    This is part 5 of the LoRa/LoRaWAN tutorial.
    In this video series different topics will be explained which will help you to understand LoRa/LoRaWAN.
    It is recommended to watch each video sequentially as I may refer to certain LoRa/LoRaWAN topics explained earlier.
    In this video I will explain what the decibel is and what the purposes are of the units dBm, dBi and dBd.
    A deciBel (dB) is a unit of measurement used to express the ratio of powers, sound pressures or others things on a logarithmic scale.
    The deciBel was invented by Bell Labs and named after Alexander Graham Bell.
    In this tutorial the deciBel is used to express the ratio of electrical powers (meaning Watts).
    A = 10 x log10(Po / Pi) dB
    Where Pi is the input power and Po the output power.
    Convert deciBel to power ratio:
    Po/Pi = 10^(A/10)
    The logarithmic scale is used to avoid very big or very small numbers, meaning the ratios. Using decibels is easier to work with.
    For example: A power ratio of 1,000,000 (1 million) can be expressed by 60 dB.
    A power ratio of 0,000001 can be expressed by -60 dB.
    A power ratio of 1,000,000,000,000,000 (1 quadrillion) can be expressed by 150 dB.
    A power ratio of 0,000000000000001 can be expressed by -150 dB.
    A power ratio of 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (1 septillion) can be expressed by 240 dB.
    A power ratio of 0,000000000000000000000001 can be expressed by -240 dB.
    dB is a ratio it does not represent an absolute value.
    If we use a reference input power of 1mW (Pi=1 mW) the unit is expressed as dBm.
    A = 10 x log10(Po / 1) dBm
    Po/Pi = 10^(A/10)
    P = 10^(A/10) mW
    Unit dBm represents an absolute value because it uses a fixed reference value 1mW.
    Rule of 10s and 3s:
    10 dB = x10
    -10 dB = ÷10
    3 dB = x2
    -3 dB = ÷2
    Prefixes can be used with SI units.
    SI is French for Systeme Internationale which means International System of Units.
    Fore example:
    -138dBm = 16 aW
    -14dBm = 0.04 mW
    Other notable deciBel notations are: dBi and dBd (these also represents ratios)
    Antenna manufacturers are using these units to measure antenna performance and is useful for comparison purpose.
    Manufacturer A has an 868MHz antenna, its gain is 3 dBi
    Manufacturer B has an 868MHz antenna, its gain is 2.5 dBi
    dBi refers to the antenna gain with respect to an isotropic antenna.
    This is an hypothetic point source antenna, that radiates its power uniformly in all directions.
    Radiation or antenna pattern reflects the strength of the radio waves from the antenna in different directions.
    dBd refers to the antenna gain with respect to a reference dipole antenna.
    The radiation pattern of a dipole antenna looks like a donut.
    The relationship between dBd and dBi:
    dBi = dBd + 2.15
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Komentáře • 69

  • @josephbais1767
    @josephbais1767 Před rokem +1

    One of the "very best ever" found in CZcams with great presentation.

  • @nishant4001
    @nishant4001 Před 4 lety +11

    Crisp, Clear, Simple etc etc etc etc one of the best video youtube will ever have

  • @kandredfpv
    @kandredfpv Před 3 lety +10

    Best dB explanation I've ever seen 👍
    Thanks for taking the time to make this!

  • @kalpeshbhalerao9403
    @kalpeshbhalerao9403 Před 4 lety +2

    I have been working out for last 3 days to learn LoRaWAN....and finally got this channel.....Probably the best one.

  • @hbibamrani9890
    @hbibamrani9890 Před rokem

    Excellent illustration.

  • @khadlelmromiz0121
    @khadlelmromiz0121 Před 10 měsíci

    Good explanation and easy to understand, thanks a lot😊

  • @Kadaa988
    @Kadaa988 Před 5 lety +15

    thank you so much for this video. never been crystal clear before. this is the best video on this topic so far. i humbly request you to make more videos on several more topic like in this way.

  • @jackbryan5851
    @jackbryan5851 Před 5 lety +7

    Nice to hear that finally explained! Can't tell you how long I have been wondering about that.

  • @smsohelozzaman3026
    @smsohelozzaman3026 Před 4 lety +1

    I have to admit with others that you are one of the best RF teachers I have ever seen! I studied and worked in Bangladesh, Germany and USA just to let you know that I have seen a lot of RF teacher and engineers in my life!

    • @Mobilefish
      @Mobilefish  Před 4 lety +2

      Thanks for the compliment, but please be advised I am not a RF engineer or electronics engineer. I am interested in this technology and spend a lot of time to grasp it. To share my knowledge with others, I have therefore created this tutorial series.

  • @soha150
    @soha150 Před 2 lety +1

    why they did not teach us like this in Engineering school ?!!!
    I graduated at 2007 and this is the first time i totally understand dB, dBm
    thank you

  • @Visual0gamer
    @Visual0gamer Před 2 lety

    i was looking for this, thank you very much!

  • @ModestMaker
    @ModestMaker Před 3 lety

    Well done sir- you have a gift for explaining things clearly.

  • @sureshkumarmadevan3011
    @sureshkumarmadevan3011 Před 5 lety +1

    Excellent video. Crystal clear explanation.

  • @tonycadena47
    @tonycadena47 Před 3 lety

    The explained examples help to make this an intuitive learning versus a learning by rote. Thank you.

  • @deltalima
    @deltalima Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks a lot for this *excelent* video! I never found it better explained. :-)

  • @peubouzon
    @peubouzon Před 4 lety +2

    Thank's, i really enjoyed your explanation!

  • @Thanhlh84
    @Thanhlh84 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the great video explaining about dB, dBi, dBd. I do not really understand this for long time.

  • @fedahussainmuzaffari1910
    @fedahussainmuzaffari1910 Před 4 lety +3

    a very great explanation!
    thank you bro!

  • @pcbworks
    @pcbworks Před 3 lety +1

    Awesome!

  • @lyambdahelowel1900
    @lyambdahelowel1900 Před 4 lety

    Easily and perfect explanation!

  • @shawntaylor9509
    @shawntaylor9509 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for taking the time to make this.

  • @obione9317
    @obione9317 Před 4 lety

    Thank you, it all start to make sense now.

  • @ibrahimahmethan586
    @ibrahimahmethan586 Před 4 lety

    VERY useful information . god bless you man

  • @fahadborashed9994
    @fahadborashed9994 Před 3 lety

    Thank you Sir, easy and simple way to deliver the information

  • @KanhuPadhy
    @KanhuPadhy Před 4 lety

    Excellent teaching on fundamental topics .

  • @henrylaredo
    @henrylaredo Před 3 lety

    is the first time that I understand this matter, thank you!!!

  • @albertschrocker9995
    @albertschrocker9995 Před 4 lety

    Thnks for your effort! Very good and understandable explanation!

  • @MrVineethprasad
    @MrVineethprasad Před 5 lety

    hats off to the makers of this video. cannot b simpler than this

  • @Ayansh45
    @Ayansh45 Před 2 lety

    Tremendous video... Thanks my concept has been cleared..

  • @silverian
    @silverian Před 4 lety

    Thanks for very good explanation!

  • @tems9999
    @tems9999 Před 5 lety

    Crystal clear... thanks a lot for your share

  • @omarcruz6326
    @omarcruz6326 Před 4 lety

    Great Stuff !!! Bravo

  • @Vicky12111
    @Vicky12111 Před 3 lety

    Thank you sir for giving excellent knowledge in better ideas

  • @macnet83
    @macnet83 Před 4 lety

    Very well explained. thank you

  • @shahidhameed5980
    @shahidhameed5980 Před 4 lety

    very interesting & informative ...thank you sir

  • @r1rmndz507
    @r1rmndz507 Před 3 lety

    awesome lecture!

  • @baljindersingh-fv1ez
    @baljindersingh-fv1ez Před 4 měsíci

    Very nice sir..

  • @ThePing98
    @ThePing98 Před 4 lety

    great video serie

  • @arnehovind3596
    @arnehovind3596 Před 3 lety

    Incredible video. For years I have been trying to wrap my head around understanding db. This video makes a great explanation. Now it is almost clear as mud. Do you have a link to more of these 10 & 3 multiplication examples?

  • @djordjekovcin6287
    @djordjekovcin6287 Před 2 lety +1

    there is another rule that can also be applied. 2*3*5 [mW] vs 3+5+7 [dBm] for example 17dBm =50mW { 5*5*2=50 ----- 7+7+3=17)

  • @paramforaccounts
    @paramforaccounts Před 7 měsíci

    Gold.

  • @rameshpetwal8451
    @rameshpetwal8451 Před 4 lety

    Very nice.

  • @anujregmi4582
    @anujregmi4582 Před 4 lety

    a gem

  • @LIM_Khuan
    @LIM_Khuan Před 2 lety

    good...thanks

  • @anthoeseo546
    @anthoeseo546 Před rokem

    incroyable thank

  • @marcoroma93
    @marcoroma93 Před 2 lety +1

    Minute 0:25, there is an error in the second example (Cable), The input power and the output power is in [mW], hence A(loss) will be in [dBm] not in dB

  • @starsouf2950
    @starsouf2950 Před 3 lety

    Thanks

  • @letsgetto1millwithoutvids

    Thank you everyone explains it badly and like I know what there talking about but you explained it good thank you now I understand that it is a ratio. 👍
    So is the higher the dBm the better the signal
    And could you increase the dB / dBm by using operational amplifiers

  • @schlumbie
    @schlumbie Před 5 lety +1

    Does body loss in dB can be converted to dBi? While dBi is actually reference to isotropic antenna. Thanks in advance

  • @leo-rq2ei
    @leo-rq2ei Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you I thought it was way more complicated than it really is

    • @Calm_Energy
      @Calm_Energy Před 4 lety

      me to! Thank goodness for youtube.

  • @vijaykumaranalagarsamy8515

    @14.32 can you please explain how the equation dBi = dBd + 2.15 comes? Is that correct?

  • @aloneprince2376
    @aloneprince2376 Před 4 lety

    bright side !

  • @vvnsastrysastry4472
    @vvnsastrysastry4472 Před 3 lety

    What is dbic in circular polarised antenna.or.how one specify a circular polarised antenna measered with std. Lineor dipole.

  • @ahemednor5201
    @ahemednor5201 Před 2 lety

    🙏🙏🌹🌹

  • @ismailhaque8262
    @ismailhaque8262 Před 4 lety

    What does mean of 0 dBi with respect to radiation pattern of an antenna?

  • @weizheng1470
    @weizheng1470 Před 2 lety

    I am a little confused by one point. As the radiated patterns of the isotropic antenna and dipole antenna, dipole antenna's gain is 2.15dB bigger than the isotropic antenna in the horizontal direction. Why does dBi equal dBd plus 2.15, not dBd equals dBi plus 2.15?

    • @Jamesklein26
      @Jamesklein26 Před rokem

      isotropic antenna has equal gain in all directions where a dipole has a null off the ends and (more gain/energy) off the broadside. take a balloon and point your fingers together your fingers form the null and balloon expands (gain) out

  • @mdzulhaidar6938
    @mdzulhaidar6938 Před 2 lety

    Sorry, sir, is there a journal, if so, can I send it by email?
    pleas respon me

  • @youngkevinsmith
    @youngkevinsmith Před 2 lety

    dBi = dBd + 2.15. Should this not be dBd= dBi + 2.15 based on blue and red diagram/ pattern shown? @14.27

  • @abdessamadbellouch5655

    what means By ALOHA

    • @Mobilefish
      @Mobilefish  Před 5 lety

      See:
      www.wirelesscommunication.nl/reference/chaptr06/aloha/aloha.htm

  • @youngkevinsmith
    @youngkevinsmith Před 3 lety

    DB is a ratio. Not aabsolute
    DBM is absolute value.... mW

  • @aliansari9191
    @aliansari9191 Před 4 lety

    Sir, very useful information.. I request you to make a video like how to read the datasheet of the Antenna.
    Here is the Example: www.johansontechnology.com/datasheets/0868AT43A0020/0868AT43A0020.pdf
    In the datasheet Antenna Gain:-1.0 dBi represent minus values so it represents loss?

    • @Mobilefish
      @Mobilefish  Před 4 lety +1

      Asmat, thanks for the input. I am working on several videos about antennas and I am explaining most often used antenna parameters used in datasheet. I have missed negative antenna gain, oops.But I will explain this in my tutorials. THANKS!

    • @aliansari9191
      @aliansari9191 Před 4 lety

      @@Mobilefish I appreciate your quick response on this.. looking forward to see your video on this..