Beethoven symphony 7 (finale) comparison | 5 conductors

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  • Comparison between 5 conductors on Beethoven Symphony 7’s finale. Orchestra info in video.
    1. Dudamel
    2. Furtwangler
    3. Salonen
    4. Bernstein
    5 Karajan

Komentáře • 191

  • @1__fateta
    @1__fateta Před 2 lety +56

    In case if anyone needs time stamp:
    0:06 Dudamel
    2:13 Furtwängler
    4:03 Salonen
    6:03 Bernstein
    8:13 Karajan

  • @citzie
    @citzie Před rokem +83

    Furtwangler’s furious, wild reading and impeccable playing at impossible speed by the band while bombs blasted Berlin had my whole body pulsating in rhythmic ecstasy

    • @umbertolombardo4415
      @umbertolombardo4415 Před rokem +18

      Furtwängler is Beethoven.

    • @torosdepamplona
      @torosdepamplona Před 10 měsíci +8

      Maria Callas said that!

    • @GermanGreetings
      @GermanGreetings Před 9 měsíci

      I thought the same... it`s like Putin preaching `Archbishop Kyrill` about human rights...
      The candle... in putin`s hands? it`s like a `wand` in one of Himmler`s Ordens`burgers`...
      Thank you for your comment.

    • @avioctavian
      @avioctavian Před 7 měsíci +5

      He is too fast. He sacrifices nuanced phrasing in favor of the pyrotechnics of speed. Impressive but not satisfying

    • @AndreyRubtsovRU
      @AndreyRubtsovRU Před 7 měsíci

      have you googled meaning of the term "impeccable"?

  • @boriskind
    @boriskind Před rokem +45

    OMG, Furtwängler, what a sound, like wild power of the nature!! All recordings are very good, but he won..

  • @1__fateta
    @1__fateta Před 2 lety +27

    In my opinion:
    1. Karajan
    2. Furtwängler
    3. Bernstein
    4. Salonen
    5. Dudamel

  • @michaelhanrahanmoore1622
    @michaelhanrahanmoore1622 Před 7 měsíci +16

    It's very close between karajan and furtwangler. I usually go for karajan recordings and I do think he's the best of the century but here I just start imagining things when listening to furtwangler . My imagination goes wild. I seem to see a great flood lead by the god of the sea and the entire marine animal kingdom following at great and powerful speed. And that's the difference.

  • @ilbuonable
    @ilbuonable Před rokem +19

    Good selection, but there is at least one missing...Where is Carlos Kleiber?

    • @horaciomendez7133
      @horaciomendez7133 Před rokem +1

      Kleiber esta fuera de escala, fue el mejor para mi gusto.

    • @michelvb7130
      @michelvb7130 Před 10 měsíci +6

      If Carlos Kleiber was in the race, it would be unfair. No one else had a chance ;)

  • @danduriscoe1280
    @danduriscoe1280 Před 7 měsíci +3

    I have to go with Von Karajan, the balance of sound, passion, and communication is exquisite. Furtwangler is absolutely thrilling! But is that what Beethoven wanted, who cares? I am glad I heard it. Salonen is beautiful, has the most beauty, Dudamel is perfect in every regard, almost to a fault, Bernstein, I love how he goes "from here to there" in the climaxes, varying the dynamics and tempo, learned from Mahler, he makes the piece into different "phrases". Von Karajan's absolute mastery of the orchestral sound has never been matched, especially with "mostly strings" pieces, it shows here.

  • @reidwhitton6248
    @reidwhitton6248 Před 8 měsíci +9

    All good but Furtwangler is the most exciting! It's like a whirlwind sweeping you away at 200 MPH.

  • @andrewlord5615
    @andrewlord5615 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Furtwangler going hell for leather is not what I expected to hear. But what a performance!

  • @jalilan5132
    @jalilan5132 Před rokem +9

    1.Herr Von Karajan
    2.Herr Von Karajan
    3.Herr Von Karajan
    Then the others with all respect😅

  • @arneskorup1540
    @arneskorup1540 Před 2 lety +9

    1. Karajan
    2. Furtwängler
    3. Dudamel & Salonen
    5. Bernstein

  • @emigdioluisgarciaaguilar2738
    @emigdioluisgarciaaguilar2738 Před 7 měsíci +8

    Karajan monumental, transmite energía a la música, la orquesta capta esa energía .

  • @polocathmhaoil9141
    @polocathmhaoil9141 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I have been 'hooked' on this symphony since I was 10 years old, and am now 65. I have travelled the globe to attend live performances. Of the conductors featured here, to me the Bernstein was exactly how I expected the performance to be.

  • @jess.sou9
    @jess.sou9 Před rokem +32

    Bernstein is my favorite conductor ever, I love his passion and how he challenged the boring academicism.
    However, in this video I have to pay respect and exalt the amazing conduct of Wilhelm Furtwängler. OMG, I have no words, I'm too ignorant, but I felt my own deepness when I heard that.
    Forgive me, leonard, you will always be my love.

    • @AndreyRubtsovRU
      @AndreyRubtsovRU Před 7 měsíci

      you don't have to be ignorant, Furtwangler was also ignorant to many of Beethovens markings and ideas judging by this audio lol

  • @manuelserrano6068
    @manuelserrano6068 Před 2 lety +32

    Another tough competition. In this case, for me ,there is a clear winner, Karajan, and two runners-up, Bernstein and Pekka-Salonen. Good selection Nuclear Cats!

  • @thomasmurray3920
    @thomasmurray3920 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Karajan-fury controlled, not too fast like some of the others. I am able to more fully appreciate the richness of this piece.

  • @johnlaurencepoole6408
    @johnlaurencepoole6408 Před 7 měsíci +3

    I heard von Karajan perform this and the 6th with the Berlin Philharmonic in Pasadena, CA, at the Ambassador Auditorium. I knew right then I would never hear a greater performeance of either symphony again. There was an army of basses in the performance I attedend and the recording here did not capture the vibration I felt then and have really never felt since. It was absolutely magical and made the L.A Philharmonic thereafter feel second rate.

    • @iczerman
      @iczerman Před měsícem +1

      Really?! I was at the Brahms 1 and 3 program.
      And I concur..the Double basses were the most expressive section during that concert series.

  • @aufbrechen
    @aufbrechen Před 7 měsíci +7

    Yes Kararajan and Furtwängler. But You should also see: they had the best Orchestra of the world! - Also interesting would be Bloomstedt with his late recording, and Rattle and Jansons.

    • @juanbatista5302
      @juanbatista5302 Před 7 měsíci

      Yep, the Berliner driven by their titular directors 😁

  • @arker007
    @arker007 Před 8 měsíci +9

    The best one is missing. Carlos Kleiber conducting the RCO.

    • @ASclassical
      @ASclassical  Před měsícem

      I know, I’ve uploaded it as a video…

  • @johnhoran25
    @johnhoran25 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Going back before Furtwangler, don’t forget Arturo Toscanini’s awesome performance from 1936 with the NY Philharmonic

  • @JoelLeBras
    @JoelLeBras Před 11 měsíci +6

    That music is crazy for its time... A good performance has to be crazy too.... Only Furt is.

  • @petergolding5733
    @petergolding5733 Před 10 měsíci +15

    Karajan by far. Followed by Furtwangler. If anyone can locate the incredible radio broadcast with Karajan in 1970, or the complete Tokyo set from the same year, they are far superior to all of these, with a white-hot finale that has you on the edge of your seat. The spontaneous shouts at the end are fully justified (I do have a copy of them if anyone wants them)

  • @nicola1997_
    @nicola1997_ Před rokem +4

    1. Karajan;
    2. Furtwängler;
    3. Bernstein;
    4. Salonen;
    5. Dudamel.

  • @DarthViva
    @DarthViva Před rokem +12

    I think it was not fair that Wilhelm Furtwängler was not seen conducting but nevertheless, his version beats the rest. And this is coming from a die hard fan of Herbert Von Karajan

    • @ASclassical
      @ASclassical  Před rokem +4

      I agree, the thing is that I couldn’t find a video of him conducting this. Anyways, thanks for the comment

  • @yye91709
    @yye91709 Před 7 měsíci +14

    You missed Carlos Kleiber, who beats them all in this particular work.

  • @sarahostrinsky4595
    @sarahostrinsky4595 Před 8 měsíci +4

    I agree that Karajan was best. The tempo and intensity gave me goosebumps. While I liked the intensity of Furtwangler it was too rushed. In third place, Bernstein. Dudamel and Salonen each lent a sweetness to the piece, which is fine if you feel this piece should sound sweet. I don’t believe that was Beethoven’s intent.

  • @djkim4681
    @djkim4681 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Bernstein's performance is the best! What a perfect trumpet articulation throughout the entire fourth movement!

  • @franklinfretelneyra8418
    @franklinfretelneyra8418 Před rokem +6

    KARAJAN

  • @operalover2512
    @operalover2512 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Listen to Carlos Kleiber and The Royal Concergebouw Orchest

  • @umbertolombardo4415
    @umbertolombardo4415 Před rokem +8

    Bellissima la comparazione. In ogni caso, quando si parla di Beethoven, Furtwängler è l' apice, il massimo, l' incomparabile, soprattutto per il finale della VII sinfonia.

  • @ASclassical
    @ASclassical  Před 7 měsíci +3

    As many of you have requested: Here is Carlos Kleiber's rendition of the finale of Beethoven's 7th symphony :)
    czcams.com/video/F_BSUorc-PY/video.html

  • @selcano0575
    @selcano0575 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Furtwängler is of course the most impressive. But I wonder what was really the tempo thought by Beethoven. Since the recording is old and there is a problem with the sound recording, if I had to take a version to a desert island, I would take Karajan.

  • @axel2107
    @axel2107 Před rokem +4

    Karajan! - and far away nothing after

  • @MD-md4th
    @MD-md4th Před 7 měsíci +4

    Karajan, Furtwängler, Dudamel, Bernstein, Salonen. Karajan’s is the epitome of power and control. Furtwängler’s is Dionysian fire. On the edge, but never too much so. Still, a bit raw in places. I would love to hear Furtwängler with modern sound quality. I am not a Dudamel fan, but this is excellent! Lots of energy, and with an orchestra that is not quite up to the others. Bernstein tries a little too hard to be different. It gets in the way. Just play the notes, Lenny, it’s not all about you. Salonen is fine, but comparatively dull and lacking energy.

  • @Lamadesbois
    @Lamadesbois Před rokem +8

    Thank you for editing and uplaoding this, inspiring !

  • @user-st5uw4fb7j
    @user-st5uw4fb7j Před 8 měsíci +8

    Where is Carlos Kleiber ?

  • @therascals8237
    @therascals8237 Před 10 měsíci +10

    I like the Dudamel because you more easily hear all the different parts more clearly even if the overall energy isnt as intense as the Karajan.

    • @avioctavian
      @avioctavian Před 7 měsíci

      I like Dudamel’s phrasing and emotional style’ but is not as passionate and convincing as Karajan.

    • @saarlooswolfhund6237
      @saarlooswolfhund6237 Před 7 měsíci

      Dudamel does not understand anything about the German Classical music. Its without sense, just show.

  • @PS-su2si
    @PS-su2si Před rokem +5

    Karajan

  • @bjaco290
    @bjaco290 Před rokem +13

    Furtwangler is my Supreme conductor, nothing comes close, it stretches every aspect of my imagination. I enjoy Dudamel, karajan, but the sound of Furtwangler is unique.

    • @ASclassical
      @ASclassical  Před rokem +5

      I agree, it’s a unique interpretation!

    • @umbertolombardo4415
      @umbertolombardo4415 Před rokem

      👍

    • @bjaco290
      @bjaco290 Před rokem +5

      @@umbertolombardo4415 molto grazie. Mi piace molto Furtwangler

    • @umbertolombardo4415
      @umbertolombardo4415 Před rokem +3

      @@bjaco290 Unsurpassed. Beethoven reaches his peak with him.
      Egli è il mio preferito direttore.

  • @user-uj5yo8tx9c
    @user-uj5yo8tx9c Před 7 měsíci +1

    Karajan, great control, I hear Beethoven indeed; Bernstein passion, both of them my favorites
    I have a version of op 92 by Guido Cantelli; I think is the greatest performance ever heard. Anyhow, all of them are amazing. I enjoyed the video

  • @ecyranot
    @ecyranot Před 7 měsíci

    I was gratified to read the comments after listening because so many observed what I had observed, that Furtwanger's was the most exhilarating and Karajan the most monumental, which I think comes from the clarity of the voices. But I have to say, this judging feels a bit like judging the best football quarterback based on the team's record. The orchestras are playing the music, and I can't just say x or y conductor is best when the team of players differ one conductor to another, and those players have such an enormous role in the enterprise.

  • @Gralsritter
    @Gralsritter Před 7 měsíci +3

    While agreeing with Furtwangler and Karajan and even Bernstein, no survey of the 7th symphony can be taken seriously without Carlos Kleiber!

  • @judithf9297
    @judithf9297 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I agree Karajan is the best here. Although Bernstein is my favorite in general (especially Brahms) but here Karajan had the best phrasing even in this tempo and the instruments you could here them very well separately in their own section. Bernstein #2, very close to Karajan, then Salonen #3, Dudamel #4 and Furtwangler #5. I am very surprised of Furtwangler’s tempo, I think that recording was speeded up because he generally does things slower and that tempo was really over the top,kind of humanly impossible,in my opinion. That’s why I rated him last.

  • @Brooder85
    @Brooder85 Před rokem +48

    Karajan is the best.

    • @dlhuo9366
      @dlhuo9366 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Agree 100%!!

    • @cortootify
      @cortootify Před 8 měsíci +3

      Sorry l think Karajan is the worst, not impressed

    • @henryv69
      @henryv69 Před 8 měsíci

      Si

    • @sandev88
      @sandev88 Před 8 měsíci +4

      I can give you half a dozen reasons why Furtwangles reading is far superior to Von Karajan almost always

    • @Brooder85
      @Brooder85 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@sandev88 haters gonna hate! 😆

  • @maggiedeveney
    @maggiedeveney Před 2 měsíci

    Fantastic!

  • @barney6888
    @barney6888 Před 8 měsíci +6

    vK's 7th is what pulled me out of rock music and into classical. Back in the early 70s, his "60s" set, which is phenomenal. Everything Karajan did was phenomenal.

  • @pablosanchezgutierrez7482
    @pablosanchezgutierrez7482 Před 9 měsíci +9

    Furtwängler's reading and conducting has always been impressive. There are no words to describe it. The tempo is always something else with him. Then, there is Bernstain, I do not know what happens, he just capture you. Salonen has the energy and the touch of a youngster. Very vivid and comforting. Karajan is Karajan. Nothing different there.

  • @albghilardi
    @albghilardi Před 8 měsíci +3

    Kleiber!

  • @Angharad329
    @Angharad329 Před 8 měsíci +3

    For me Maestro Herbert von Karajan is the best, at least for Beethoven's 7th Simphony

  • @jamescrawford9883
    @jamescrawford9883 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I never liked Karajan much but in this he is marvellous!

  • @marujaaparicio1009
    @marujaaparicio1009 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I like Von Karajan very much

  • @AndreyRubtsovRU
    @AndreyRubtsovRU Před 7 měsíci

    Beethoven: I am sorry I haven't composed Timpani concerto.
    Furtwangler: Hold my beer.

  • @matthewweflen
    @matthewweflen Před 8 měsíci +4

    I would rank them Karajan > Bernstein > Salonen > Dudamel. But they're all very good and no one runs away with it. Karajan/BPO's account is intense and precise. Bernstein/VPO is intense but a bit rough around the edges. Salonen/ODP has the best sound quality and allows me to hear certain parts more clearly (like that piccolo!). Dudamel/SBO is really nicely balanced but a wee bit sedate.
    The sound quality on Furty is borderline unlistenable, which makes it hard to weigh him against the others. I will say, normally I'm a slut for tympani, but I think it's a bit too exaggerated in this recording.

  • @user-br5nb9rh8v
    @user-br5nb9rh8v Před 7 měsíci

    My list- Kleiber, Mravinsky, Bohm, Petrenko, Klemperer!!! The Best!!!

  • @miker9607
    @miker9607 Před 7 měsíci

    Ok, so, the Karajan recordings aren't really fair because he was known to use double winds and extra strings to make the sound (artificially) more powerful. I'm sure the live performance of the Furtwängler was exhilarating but the sound quality is difficult to assess given the age of the recording. The Dudamel and Salonen are obviously the most recent and the most authentic in terms of sound engineering technology (and the orchestra complement is accurate to the score, which is why I'd put them above Karajan.) Bernstein is a legend, but I struggle with his conducting style in general.
    I'd say overall, they are all good performances and Beethoven was the master here!

  • @chwb99
    @chwb99 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I like Dudamel‘s approach a lot because he shows us that this symphony does not need to be played powerful or even bombastic but that it can be played in a wonderful flow with an orchestra that shifts from voice to voice instead of pushing forte altogether. This fresh approach to this symphony much appreciated. Btw, it would have been great to have Carlos Kleiber & Wiener Philharmoniker in this comparison.

  • @sandragoodman2059
    @sandragoodman2059 Před 7 měsíci

    I'm surprised that I like Dudamel better than these other conductors whom I love. He brought out the structure of the piece best; it was less bombastic and less focussed on speed. Now I'm excited he's coming to NYC.

  • @ErickSR1
    @ErickSR1 Před rokem +3

    Karajan Win's!

  • @perlman7376
    @perlman7376 Před 8 měsíci +1

    This video does not request anyone to rate the conductor's performance. However, since everyone else weighed in, Karajan is the best here and not by a little. Bernstein is one of my favorite conductors but this 7th is too idiosyncratic. Furtwangler is so exciting but the music is squeezed together in panic mode. Nothing wrong with Dudamel but so many other conductors easily surpass him on this piece like Kleiber & Reiner just to name 2. And so Salonen and Dudamel must have been chosen for this video just for comparison sake and not because their performances were in the top 5 of all time.

  • @leocastellucci5615
    @leocastellucci5615 Před 7 měsíci

    1. Bernstein
    2. Karajan
    3. Salonen

  • @kenroberts177
    @kenroberts177 Před 7 měsíci

    Hard to judge Furtwangle due to poor recording quality. Top 2 for me is Dudamel conducting and bringing parts of the whole then puts it all together by the end. Van Karajan builds orchestral momentum like a freight train going 80 mph..

  • @user-gz7qe8ls9j
    @user-gz7qe8ls9j Před rokem +2

    Many writers here do not analyse why they select conductors and performance. That sounds to my ears that you just glorify names but do not understand about this music and playing.😢

    • @ASclassical
      @ASclassical  Před rokem

      It’s not my problem that people don’t analyse!! 😩

  • @richardmuncey9860
    @richardmuncey9860 Před 7 měsíci

    The orchestras were all marvellous as was LVB.Apart from Furtwangler being faster did the conductors make any difference? Why are they paid so much? Sometimes 100 times more than a player!

  • @r2a9l6l8s
    @r2a9l6l8s Před 7 měsíci

    Listen to the violins. Even the best string sections can be lured into a physical empathy with the conductor. In faster pieces, Dudamel, Salonen & Bernstein's left arm tend(ed) to be a bit more 'stiff' as compared to Karajan. The Karajan recording, IMHO, displays a more luminescent tone in the strings because of broader, longer gestures with his left hand. As so many have rightfully pointed out, 95% of the greatness of the performance was arrived at in the rehearsal hall. But if the conductor gives off a frenetic, cramped body language in performance, it's hard for the players (once again, particularly the strings) to fight against that and find the 'longer breath' needed to make the instruments really sing.

  • @MrFranbu67
    @MrFranbu67 Před 7 měsíci +1

    where is the best of them all, Carlos Kleiber...?

  • @christiandaniel9708
    @christiandaniel9708 Před 7 dny

    Well, Furtwängler, Bernstein and Karajan played in another league than Dudamel and Salonen you can hear that here. But Furtwängler tops everything, he did not make music, he was music!

  • @kingvii7250
    @kingvii7250 Před 7 měsíci

    For me it has to be Von Karajan and Esa-Pekka Salonen as the runner up.

  • @spodvoll
    @spodvoll Před 8 měsíci +1

    My go-to for the 7th is C. Kleiber. Walter is good, too.
    The Furtwangler "interpretation" here is a hot mess. I will never understand why so many people love his work.

  • @iczerman
    @iczerman Před měsícem

    The Von Karajan is 1971.

  • @saltburner2
    @saltburner2 Před 7 měsíci

    Furtwängler for excitement
    Karajan for precision
    Dudamel for bonhomie

  • @theodoremann1461
    @theodoremann1461 Před 7 měsíci

    Except for differences in the quality of the recordings themselves, they all sound about the same to me.

  • @zogzog1063
    @zogzog1063 Před 8 měsíci +1

    After hearing Herb von K and Furt the others are relatively legato - just not right

  • @davideincerti6418
    @davideincerti6418 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Bernstein n. 1

  • @wormrose01
    @wormrose01 Před 7 měsíci

    I'm going to give Karajan a slight edge over Bernstein, but only very slight.

  • @robertomunizmoran840
    @robertomunizmoran840 Před rokem +3

    mi opinion,, sin hacer de menos a ninguno de ellos ya que son increiblemente buenos, es : karajan, peka salonen, furwangler, bernstein y dudamel

  • @user-zs7eb5uc9r
    @user-zs7eb5uc9r Před 2 dny

    카를로스 클라이버가 없는 게 아쉽습니다.

  • @paulo3564
    @paulo3564 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Toscanini 1936.

  • @marujaaparicio1009
    @marujaaparicio1009 Před 7 měsíci

    I love Von Karajan

  • @gretareinarsson7461
    @gretareinarsson7461 Před 7 měsíci

    Interesting comparison between three generations of conductors. Furtwängler is awesome and wild but I prefer Karajan out of the five.

  • @srothbardt
    @srothbardt Před 14 dny

    K is best. Furt is very exciting, but really too fast. It’s not presto or prestissimo. Amazing playing, though. Lenny is great , too. I want to clearly hear the violins, cellos, etc trading motives back and forth.

  • @paulsec8852
    @paulsec8852 Před 2 lety +4

    Esa Pekka-Salonen's interpretation sends shivers through my body. It's just fantastic. To me, Dudamel comes second with a dynamic, sensitive, elegant version of the finale.

  • @marcosPRATA918
    @marcosPRATA918 Před 7 měsíci

    Gostei da dinâmica em Dudamel.

  • @pupulique
    @pupulique Před 7 měsíci

    Those who don’t acknowledge Furtwangler’s unrivaled power here (and actually almost everywhere else in German music) have nothing to do with the symphony music and the spirit of Beethoven. Even great Karajan sounds dead here after Furtwangler.

  • @Macart25
    @Macart25 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Karajan has the best tempo and sound. Furtwängler is toooo fast! Salonen is very good also.

  • @emigdioluisgarciaaguilar2738

    Segundo: Salonen , director joven todavía le que mucho que dar como director talentoso.

  • @hadinamani3940
    @hadinamani3940 Před 7 měsíci

    Karajan and fortwangler

  • @bluetortilla
    @bluetortilla Před 8 měsíci +1

    Well, I'm a fawner of Bernstein, but I'd say Dudamel wins this round. Furtwängler is surprisingly good here too- feisty.

  • @angelootavio204
    @angelootavio204 Před rokem +2

    1. Karajan & Bernstein
    2. Salonen
    3. Dudamel
    4. Furtwangler

  • @reginasartori7975
    @reginasartori7975 Před 7 měsíci

    Para essa sinfonia Karajan sem dúvida

  • @cerberocaronte7439
    @cerberocaronte7439 Před 8 měsíci

    Primo Karajan,secondo Bernstein,terzo Dudamel,quarto Furtwangler,quinto Salonen.

  • @jmg1884
    @jmg1884 Před 7 měsíci +1

    KARAJAN is the best. Dudamel has never the orchestra in his hands.

  • @cantkeepitin
    @cantkeepitin Před 7 měsíci

    Carlos Kleiber missing

  • @sadaomuraki3143
    @sadaomuraki3143 Před 8 měsíci

    Ozawa BPO 1982

  • @soheilhsp2799
    @soheilhsp2799 Před 7 měsíci

    Furtwangler takes the first place and Karajan second

  • @davidblau1477
    @davidblau1477 Před 8 měsíci

    Must have been winter and the hall very cold with Furtwängler

  • @laydarci
    @laydarci Před 7 měsíci

    클라이버 아바도 그 다음 번스타인, 나머지는...😊

  • @FaMi-ze8fn
    @FaMi-ze8fn Před 8 měsíci

    Karajan, e soprattutto Furtwängler, è come se stessero domando una belva selvaggia; gli altri tre, a paragone, è come se quella belva ormai domata, e sazia, si sforzassero di farla uscir fuori dalla gabbia...

  • @marcelw6827
    @marcelw6827 Před 8 měsíci

    Oh my god! Karajan

  • @danieledabovich1520
    @danieledabovich1520 Před rokem +1

    Well, n°1Berliner, n°2 Wiener

  • @alanhowe7659
    @alanhowe7659 Před 7 měsíci

    Karajan - power and control. Unlike Furtwängler who's out of control!