RIP to the absolutely incredible Mary Wilson. I’m glad to hear that Mary and Diana eventually made peace, and took a gorgeous photo with Barry Gordy a couple years back. Such a talent 💕
Why are you even tainting this interview, with anything to do Mary Wilson. Mary was a snake! Diana Ross, long left the Supremes, and made a life far beyond them.
@@anthonywinn9651 Seriously! Taking a picture with someone, doesn't mean what you want to think! How many times have you heard Diana Ross say anything really negative about anyone, even Mary. Can you say that about Mary!
@@strausd02 I thought I ended it by saying tru now your going on and on. Diana is a positive person even at her shows she give props to ppl. I’m jus tired of black female singers certain old asses got something to say and I’ve always said if u had a issue with her for something back in the day u should have nipped it then and not wait 30 or 40 yrs. Miss Gladys knight Miss patti
Barbara Walters never ask a black woman If the hair on her head is real! As long as it look good that's all that matters. Lol she tried it. 2022 RIP Barbara Walters!!!!
+Kat lol....this is not the 1st time barbara has interviewed diana....and not the 1st time she has asked her that stupid disrespectful question.......is it my hair....i brought it....i paid for it....yes!!!!...its my hair!!!...barbara i know your gettin on in age but you have asked that question mny times in the past...enough already....
+Chase Jackson I always thought she had it out for Diana, asking those type of questions is unprofessional for one and just plain unnecessary. If she really wanted to know then she could have asked off camera not live in front of the whole damn world. Smh
Almost every female artist wore wigs then AND now. Even Michael Jackson wore wigs...but he started wearing them because of that burn on his head, his hair never grew back.
To be clear, Mary deserves every bit of recognition for her role in forming the legacy of the Supremes. What's sad is that she allowed her own legacy to become one of bitterness, anger and pettiness. The music business is full of examples of popular groups where one member went onto solo stardom, that's just a fact. I agree with Diana that Mary allowed herself to become a victim...she made a whole publishing career out of it! Just sad at the end of the day. Meanwhile Diana is still putting out positive music (like it or not) at 77. Did she step on some toes along the way? Sure. But no more than any man who's ever tried to climb the ladder of success. Haters gonna hate. Keep on keepin' on Ms. Ross! RIP Mary..the music lives on
What? No no no no let's be real here. Y'all know Berry and his family did some dirt to a lot of people for years giving more and more money to Diana. Of course Diane will have more money than Flo and Marry. It's a whole lot of stuff Berry, Diana and SMOKEY don't wanna get out.
@@maxday1000 this finger pointing and feuding among fans is 50 years old when these girls were teenagers. Mary is dead and Diana is 78 years old. time to move on with your life
Joseph Paul Diana was in modeling school. Diana had the machine behind her; an unlimited amount of resources. I guess sleeping with the boss does pay off!!!
I saw Diana perform 9/30/18.. She is now an AMAZING 74 YEARS YOUNG!! She put on one hell of a show!! I Don't THINK THERE IS A PERFORMER TODAY THAT CAN DIM THIS LEGENDS LIGHT!!!!
People always said Diana wasn't the best singer of the group, but I think she had the best range and her own unique style. Haters in and out of the group..
@@carlosnoriega6878 You talk like a jealous Queen ! say what you will Miss Ross is loved by thousands of people around the world ! what are you known for?
She is so gracious and well spoken here. Yes, it was her voice, tenacity and the "x factor" that put her out front, first and foremost. And so glad of it!
Plain and simple, Diana was the star of the show, whether or not Berry Gordy was involved or if Mary liked it. All eyes were always on Diana. There was something about her talent, looks, voice, smile, posture, etc. that captivated audiences and made them fall in love with her (like me). You'd have to be a very special performer to have a 50 yr. + career run!
so true,so true....berry gordy was a black man with a dream during a time of literal civil unrest.....if diana cld not cut the mustard berry wld have dumped her on the side of the road n kept it moving...intimate relationship be damned.....I think most have figured that Mary is just bitter.
All Eyes Was Not On Diana During The Supremes Day.. Eyes Were On Florence and Mary Also.. Depending On What Show They Were On .. If Berry Gordy Around.. He Wanted The Spot Light On Her.. On The Sammy Davis Show It Was A No No.. And Shindig .. Hullabaloo Showed The Beauty Of All Three.. If You Are Into Ross So Be It. I Remembered Well
This is not rocket science! It was the Diana Ross "Return to Love" Tour, not the Supremes Tour. When you are a part of someone else's tour, you either accept what is on the table, or decide that you don't agree with the terms and go your way. Mary and Cindy could not possibly get equal billing because it was NOT their tour! Period! Diana was simply trying to use a portion of the concert to pay tribute to her time with the Supremes. But it was still HER concert, so she takes precedence naturally.
+Marsena i am not in disagreement with you but the facts are a little distorted.....this is the spin diana put on it once the shit hit the fan.....before i enter into the diana spin...keep in mind that diana already did/does a supremes medley in any tour she does this fact is what i believe diana based her rational on(but she does not perform the original supremes songs in their entirety but an abbreviated version)........ Diana released her final album on motown. and was putting together a tour to promote the album(which is standard with any new album)....a close friend of diana's (scott Sanders) suggested diana invite the two former members and add a supremes segment where they wld perform some of the biggest hits in their entirety......somewhere along the line that suggestion evovled into an entire show of supremes songs in their entirety(songs from diana's album wld also be included)...this tour went on 2 be promoted as the supremes return to love tour(once the surpremes return to love tour was cancelled because of poor ticket sales.....a few years later diana went out on tour and rebranded the tour....diana ross return to love tour). Diana attempted to spin the story as if they were invited guests on her tour and that is not xactly the case....Diana was assuming the role of promotor(similar to the way Floyd Mayweather jr does).....which meant she wld lay out the upfront money ....she was pulling the strings behind the scenes but had a middle man making the offers...when mary was 1st contacted she inquired who the promoter was and could not get a clear ans...when she did some digging...she learned that diana was acting as the promoter....that is when the shit hit the fan(because mary figured that if diana was the promoter....by the end of a successful tour diana cld easily walk away with $20 million in pure profit...but the promoter lays out miiions of dollars in advance promoting the tour,booking the venue,printing tkts and insurance)...when things fell apart with mary..diana decided to move head anyway.......and recruited two girls who never really had a connection to the surpremes.....the name of the tour was discussed on the oprah winfrey show..it was promoted as a surpremes reunion tour....diana believed that she was always the main factor of the group and therefore did not need mary.....turned out this was not the case....the tkt sales were very,very poor and diana was forced to cancel the remaining tour dates....so mary had the last laugh but cost herself millions in the process.....because mary tours and earns money but she does not routinely earn $4 million dollars which is what she was offered for the tour...
+Chase Jackson wow! I didn't know that it started out as a Supremes tour with Diana as promoter. Thank you for the clarification. Yeah, that sounds like a mess! I can see now that Mary had every reason to be upset about the unfairness of the situation.
+Marsena they way i xplained it here was the xact way it was xplained by wikepedia in diana's bio...she also appeared on oprah and xplained that it was a reunion tour of the surpremes....diana who detests negative things said about her had anything pertaining to the Y2K tour removed frm her bio....i am not in disagreement with you and respect that you are entitled to your opinion.......i believe that diana did not want it revealed that she was the promoter because of the problems it wld create if mary new....let's go back to the surprems original inception to motown and evolve to present day which i believe wil xplain my rational.....when the surpremes 1st signed with motown they started out as a three member girl group all equal......some where along the line diana became the primary grp member to sing lead on all their songs (unprecedented) move head 2 more years and the name of the 3 member girl group was changed to Diana ross & the surpremes and the other two had been reduced to background singers(while mary pretends to not be bothered by this her wrds n actions don't align)......diana went solo and some wld say built a very successful solo career.....while her album sales declined by the mid-eighties(which is the norm in the music industry)it is an irrefutable fact is that she has toured successfully and still does to this day. In diana's divorce settlement she walked away with $25 million dollars and a seperate trust for her two sons that she was the administrator of(while diana remains an administrator of the trust....she has no pwr once the boys turned 21).......so money was not a factor in her decision to promote a surpremes reunion tour.....while mary tours and earns money...she peforms in much smaller venues than diana ross and her ticket pricing is much lower... In diana's mind..when the surpremes broke up they were billed/promoted/branded as Diana ross & the surpremes and the other two had been reduced to background singers.....fast forward 30yrs later and a reunion wld not change what diana viewed them as when they broke up....background singers......while it is an irrifutable fact that Mary wilson is a founding member of one of the most successful girl grps of the 60's that did not make her able to command equal pay as diana ross other than in her own ego.....the stance mary took in 2000 is the stance she shld have taken when diana was asserting herself as the lead singer of the surpremes and reducing the other two to back=up singers.....I think that as mary has played this over in her mind over the years....she regrets that she did not stand in her convictions (as flo ballard did)and take a stance but she was young naive and afraid to stand in her convictions.....but again no disrespect to you and your opinion.
+Marsena Especially when you consider it's the same mess Diana has been pullling since Mary asked her to join the group with her and Florence in 1960! Diana bedded the producers at Motown so that she could get all the leads. Smokey Robinson's wife even had an altercation in the 60s with young Diana about it - google it lol. Then once Diana got her claws in Berry it was over for Supremes Flo and Mary AND virtually all other female acts at Motown from Kim Weston and Mary Wells to Martha/Vandellas and The Marvelettes. The only album both Flo and Mary get a lead vocal on the same album is the group's first album Meet The Supremes. By their last album as an original trio, they were fighting just to sing background vocals. This is the background history to Mary saying "no thanks" to the 2000 tour. After continuing the group legacy after Flo's firing and Diana leaving, the group had numerous top 10s and 20s in the US and UK during the 70s leading up to Flo's death in '76. Mary also had a best-selling book. She had every right to refuse the tour offer. Diana has done all she can to eclipse The Supremes legacy but the 10 (total of 12 including '67-69) #1s that Flo, Mary and Diana sang and released will always be embedded in pop history. It's just a shame she's the only one remembered when if you listen to Meet the Supremes she's hardly the best vocalist. The power of ambition...
Say what you will about Ms. Ross but it was her voice and her charm that shined on the television and radio back then and I couldn't get enough of her. I loved her then and I love her now!!
Whew, I hear the supreme shade between the hair comment from Barbara along with Mary and Diana. I only wish that Florence Ballard was still here for her tell-all.
Tell what ? more lies about Diana Ross, she never could've taken them to the top like Diana did,even with great voice that people clame she had. I've heard some of the solo stuff she did and it's not good at all.
Craven DuBose class? Lol so sleeping with the guy your friend and group mate is dating, is class??? 🤦🏻♀️🤫 you’re an idiot who isn’t smart enough to acknowledge an act. She’s a smut!
Posted by Lidia: As good as "The Supremes" were, Gordy knew it was Diana who had what it took in every single way (That's why he fell in love with her). She was the whole package, her voice, her looks, her elegance and the distinctive classy style she has to shine on her own. Diana, naturally, outshines everyone, men or women, becoming the star even when sharing the light with great ones... "I'm Gonna Make You Love Me" a duet with Stevie Wonder shows how she does it, she not only sings, she engages completely with Stevie and with their audience. Diana knew her worth and her power, flied solo and negotiated her business deals in private and solo...The other Supremes could have continued making great hits as a group, if that's what they loved...What stopped them?
@@damanixxstaxx6113 Then you don't know a great deal about Diana's live TV performances. She and Stevie sang "I'm Gonna Make You Love Me" live on TV (Live At The Hollywood Palace) as pointed out by Jim Koral...IF you could be bothered to read what he actually put about engaging with the audience ten you would have realised this! czcams.com/video/mxs2nRekH2w/video.html
What stopped them wasn't the talent, it's the networks and power players and the business investment backing that you need to propel your career. Berry put all that behind Diana successfully. MW and Sandy for whatever reason couldn't muster an industry around themselves. Diana was hungrier and smarter.
Always loved and still do Diana Ross and her voice is Uniquely hers that made the Supremes but she is indeed a Diva and indeed a Primadonna Mary was nice had a nice voice but the Supremes would never have been without Diana
Mary was sneaky and vendictive. You only have to look at how she dealt with her career. Somehow she always wanted to ride Diana Ross coattails. Stop interpreting her sweet smile, as niceness. Listen to her interview with Larry King... Barbara Walters played a part of it, when she interviewed Diana Ross. Keep it real.
@@strausd02 you have so much to say on a person who's not here anymore leave people who are not here anymore alone stop trying to put them down you're wicked and cruel just like ross
Light in the Piazza mane not meant to be an insult but not appropriate. Will she ask non black women going forward or has she ever asked nonblack women that question??
These a pre set questions. A star if her caliber will not even contemplate without. Diana interviews always are: her 5 children her new tour/album how many costume changes her hair her significance to women
Diana Ross answered the question regarding her hair in a very classy dignified manner. She is a true Diva after all. Take notes Barbara Walters, though I love you.
Because Streisand was not known for wearing wigs. Ross rarely appeared in public wearing her own hair. Nevertheless, Walters ALWAYS asks questions that she would never want to answer herself!
@@pianoman551000 virtually all women wear weave in the industry.......c'mon now black women are the only women forced to reveal.thier.hair.isn't.thiers
bach baroque Whether Barbara Streisand was known for wearing wigs like Diana or not that is not an appropriate question to ask anyone. Walters needed to be slapped in her shit because she’s known for asking intrusive, distasteful borderline disrespectful questions to guest.
She worked very hard. And I can only imagine the countless number of bedframes (especially headboards) Gordy must have had to replace because of her fiercely determined worth ethic.
As I read years ago, right after Mary published "Dreamgirl: My Life As A Supreme", ONE opinion that I read by some was that Mary and a LOT of other Motown singers' shortfall was: they didn't realize that show business is a BUSINESS -- just like any other type business. That's why Mary and others couldn't understand that in order to 'crossover' in an act, you have to be marketable. Diana's voice wasn't the soulful earthiness that most Afr. Americans were used to, but hey -- it SOLD via crossover. Berry Gordy envisioned ALL of the Motown acts to crossover. When it came to The Supremes, Diana had the voice to achieve this goal. Show Business is a BUSINESS. You market the best talent that you have in order to be successful. Diana's voice was suited for pop music AND soul music. Her voice was marketable in both genres. Sure, Diana's not perfect -- she has personality flaws, too, but I cannot entirely blame Diana for anyone else's career direction since Diana went solo. Show business is a BUSINESS.
Mary Wilson wants to blame Miss Ross for her not being successful in music and in Hollywood. Mary was not gifted with the voice and class that Miss Ross has.
VERY true. They all were talented. But Miss Ross was more marketable. To be honest. Miss Wilson's voice seemed more suitable to jazz. I think she would have been awesome in jazz. Miss Ballard was more soulful. But Miss Ross was great for crossover. Everybody had their own special talents. People get online and argue about comparing apples to oranges.
@@AliKhan-yx1dy What’s that got to do with anything? Another stupid comment. There are millions of singers who don’t have voices like Mariah (who has a great voice, but one that I can’t stand to listen to, but I appreciate her status and stardom) Whitney had a voice back in the day, but that was short lived, pretty much like her career and her life. Eventually her voice was worth nothing. Diana has a different kind of voice. She never was a powerhouse vocalist and that’s ok. The music industry would be dreadful if they all sounded like Whitney and Mariah. Diana came along and helped break down boundaries and barriers, alongside a few other female black artists. She was the full package too. A voice and bucket loads of star power and charisma.
People can’t seem to let go of the version of Diana at 17 a 24 years old. That was her at her most egotistical. She’s not a terrible person, she’s just strong and loves on herself, and has good self awareness. People just can’t stand it.
She's classy & elegant as a performer Behind the scenes, though, she definitely extols a temperamental, ultra competitive demeanor....she's notorious for not being the easiest musician to work with on matters. Per one report, she had as many as 20 personal assistants or more in a single calendar year. One of my neighbors worked her concert years ago, stating they could not look her in the eyes & the set had to be decked in purple or she wouldn't sing. Not to say I dislike Diana...she is my overall favorite singer & there's no doubt she blazed TONS of trails for women entertainers through a work horse, dedicated professional ethic. However, one can't deny her extensive history of being conniving, bitchy, infantile & rude.
Michael Jackson liked her?Looked at his body language on camera when they're together.Even when Michael smiles and publicly pays her compliments.Michael knew how to play the game,this is a very shady person so many have disassociated themselves with.
I think that Diana acknowledges the way that both she, but mainly the music industry treated the other members of the supremes but she was so young and focused on her own dreams that it didn’t fully register until years later. I think her doubling the offer and trying to make Mary apart of the tour was her way of trying to fix that, but all Mary simply wanted was the respect that she so well deserved and her old friend back.
It's interesting that Mary never refuted Diana's comments in this interview such as she offered to double what the promoter offered Mary or that Diana helped out Mary in the past financially when she had difficulty.
Daina Ross always had it from the start, I follow her all the way I was one her biggest fan she just stood out always she had the talent the look and was very smart she knew what she wanted and a very good mother she is my favorite star, she great at what she does, plenty of women would be jealous of her she had it really going on and when you got it shows
I can understand what Diana is saying here. She had an opportunity to shine and she went for it. Anyone would have done the same. Even Mary or Flo. But, give credit to all of them.
And she was simply more ambitious...why should a person cut their ambition in half for others that aren't? However...Diana could have a been a little more...understanding to her bandmates. But...I do understand. In the end...its just you. I understand Diana.
@@AlkalineInsides that's right she was so ambitious that she had to lay up with her unattractive looking boss. What kind of ambition is that. And don't bother to respond, that was one of those self-answering questions.
You are right. It is Diane's voice that shot the Supremes to fame. And good looks and pretty smile helped. Everybody liked Diana and everybody knows her voice. Heck, I know the words but if I sing Baby Love, people might start to throw stuff at me. It's not easy to perfect those songs. It is work. Fun work, however, cause you like it. Later you realize the audience really loves it..
She doesn't have the kinda voice to shoot anyone to fame. That new sound and some of the best written and arranged songs in Motown's history is what shot them to fame. Her voice is cute but very garden variety
@@tyamkeaaskew6148 Then you know nothing and you're just posting because you're a troll. Diana and Berry started their relationship *after* she was globally famous, and *AFTER* and had sung lead on FIVE consecutive number 1s in 1965 (she had been at Motown for 4 years by that time). Every hit they had was fronted by Diana. If she had the worst voice then those records would never have sold. She sang lead on 12 number 1s and endless other hits. Her voice was considered the most appealing and commercial of the girls Now! This is the bit where you are completely wrong. I asked you if Diana had Berry's baby to further her career as a Supreme, to which you answered "YES". These are the facts which you seem to be ignorant of: Diana left the Supremes after the "Farewell" concert on January 14th 1970. She gave birth to their daughter, Rhonda on August 14th, 1971, exactly 19 months AFTER her departure from The Supremes. NINETEEN months after she left the group she had Berry's baby...so how can you claim she had his baby to make herself a bigger star when she was already a superstar, had already left The Supremes, and when she'd already been at Motown for over 10 years?? Your claim makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, but it "clearly shows" nothing other than you're an idiot! OH!! and by the way, IF you're going to post stuff about People, then get their names right! The man's name was BERRY, *NOT* Barry!
Diana Ross is legendary, iconic, grace, class, and a national treasure. It's unfortunate for Mary, but let's be real; Diana WAS the Supremes, and the fact that she then went on to an even more successful solo career proves it.
@@sandrajackson5163 Yeah, she got a leg up by Gordy, but Diana was the only one with the "it" factor, which is probably why he pursued her professionally and personally.
Diane should have told Barbara maybe she should get some hair because that hairstyle is tired! Barbara just hating because Diana is beautiful and classy!
@@selfishone6634 Thank you! It really pisses me off when people call Diana Ross "Diane" it's disrespectful! They don't call Stevie Wonder "Steveland" it's a dig.
Y? So she could shut her up? Nah. Always stand for what u believe in. She is greatly angered with ross bc of what ended up happening to the original group member, florence ballard. Not that tvone unsung bs btw
Mary Wilson said they were equal until Diana started dating Berry Gordy and wanted to be the leader of the group which is probably true. RIP Mary Wilson.
In entertainment, no one steals anyone's spotlight. People choose which star shines brighter and they turn to it, and Diana's star shines brighter. She is also an amazing actress I recently watched her in Mahogany and no one in that group would have done it better. Mary Mary Mary......🙄
You cant make anyone happy in life you create your own happiness i LIKE MRS ROSS shes a great ENTERTAINER fabulous movie star mahogany that was fun movie
I think it must hurt the Supremes to have Diana be the star, but really, Motown weren't stupid. Diana may not have had the strength in her voice of Florence, but she had a marketable soft pop rnb voice. She had the charisma too. Motown made her the lead for that reason. Look at shows like the X Factor, Simon Cowell works in similar ways, he puts people together, he tears them apart and says if someone would be more marketable than the next. The music business doesn't just work on whose better than who, it's a whole bunch of things that goes into making a 'star', not just vocal talent. But, Diana's lead sold millions of records world wide so obviously people loved her vocals. I simply love Diana's voice, she has a beautiful tone, softness and she can project too. She was talented, she had star power... she is a living icon, a legend in music. It's unfortunate that the other Supremes never got more of a spotlight, yes it is. Florence deserved more. Yet Diana's successs wasn't a fluke either.
+Zelda Zonkin' Exactly. To me Diana's voice feels like a cool breeze. Barry Gordy even said that Florence and Mary had fine voices but they weren't unique like Diana's voice was.
+Zelda Zonkin' Diana's success was no fluke, from the early days when The Supremes were teased as the 'no hit' Supremes by other Motown acts, Diana was already having intimate relationships with producers at Motown. Then once her place as lead was solidified she started dating Berry as the hits began to roll in and from then on ALL promotional efforts were diverted to Diana. There is no way she couldn't have been a star. Offers came in for Flo for a movie...she was never told. Why? Because Diana was the focus. Why do you think incredible artists like Mary Wells and Kim Weston left Motown in the 60s? Because it was apparent that Berry was obsessed with Diana. Diana was charismatic and her voice unique but that's not why she became the Queen of Motown. She became the queen because she was bedding the founder, the creator and the CEO, who gave her everything she wanted at everyone else's expense. It's the oldest trick in the book.
sammy7819 This is all public info, freely available in interviews with said Motown acts, Motown employees on CZcams AND also in books written by said Motown alumni :)
IVE ALWAYS LOVED DIANA ROSS HER VOICE LIKE AN ANGEL AND HER SPIRIT IM SO GLAD I GOT TO SEE HER ONCE AND I WILL NEVER FORGET HOW TRULY BEAUTIFUL SHE IS IN PERSON
I think your taking it too personally, her big hair ended up becoming a trademark part of her public persona for a very long time. When you see big wild hair like that the first person you would think of was Diana Ross.
@@denisegipson1800 if that's the case then why ask. I've never seen her ask a white person that. Let's call an ace an ace. White women are known for that. Does it matter if her hair is real it does changes anything. Over 20 yrs later and we still get ask those ridiculous questions. We don't ask them if their teeth is real, its ridiculous and no ones business.
@Luciano Da Silva That is absolutely NOT true! That’s all a myth. Milton Jenkins started the group. He wanted to start a sister group to the Primes. Milton asked Flo if she was interested in joining his girl band, and she agreed, and she asked Mary who also agreed. At exactly the same time, Paul Williams (of The Primes/Temptations) knew Diana and asked her if she wanted to join the group. Diana agreed, along with his girlfriend Betty McGlown. And so the 4 girl lineup of The Primettes was formed.
One of the group members may over time find more success than the others. That’s just the way it goes. Will & Jazzy Jeff; Beyoncé and Destiny’s child, etc... Taking nothing from Ms. Wilson’s talent, but Ms. Ross just had something that made her sparkle just a little brighter. Ms. Wilson wants what Ms. Ross has, and she may well deserve it, but not at Ms. Ross’ expense. What is for Ms. Ross is for Ms. Ross.
I wish Mary and Diana could have worked it out! . It's sad how so many blame Mary for everything!. Some of these comments are just ugly!. We don't know all the nitty-gritty details I'm sure!. It's usually not just one person!
Show me two non related women co existing in such close proximity for 30 years that weren't at each others throats. Especially when one feels the other is using her pussy against her. CATFIGHT!
Mary was smart. Her and Diane are not friends...obviously havent talked or worked together in Diane. And im shocked Diane thought relastictly thought Cindy and Mary would want to go on tour with her out of the blue when she didnt try to contact or adress it privately with them. In early 2000 there were so many rumers of her trying to get a Supremes Reunion tour...so when she finnaly called Mary..Marys like what took u so long?
The reason why Mary was not getting an equal share is that she was only supposed to participate in a segment for the tour. It would not have been her performing for the concert but perhaps half of it.
Oh c'mom do u think kelly and Michele were earning the same as Beyonce?? Of course not. B was the 🌟!! She earned wayyyyy more thsn them. Its ridiculous to expect for the secondaries to earn the same as the star...
@@jamo2798 Diana's playful, sensuality made her stand out. As far as B goes. Think about it. Kelly sings great too. About as well as Beyonce... But she doesn't have that star appeal B has. Same with Diana and the other Supremes. There's ALWAYS a 🌟..
@@taylorsara1237 I agree 100% with the star analogy you just made. I'm just saying when the Supremes were popular, no particular group member stood out. And the other 2 members were prettier. And Diana didn't have the best voice
You guys can keep going back and forth debating about who has a better voice. But history shows Diana Ross along with Mary Wilson and Florence Ballard made musical history. Now as a single solo artist Mary Wilson can not touch Diana Ross on of her best day and we all know that to be true. And speaking of Diana Ross not selling, Diana Ross is currently in Las Vegas at the Venetian hotel to a sold-out audience.
Mary *has* to "sing" the songs that Diana sang because she's never had any hits of her own to sing! And the saddest thing is that Mary's voice doesn't suit the songs that Diana sang lead on at all!!
All of them are Supremes! It's THEIR group. Diana didn't make the group successful by herself, it all three of them. Hect, Diana wasn't even in the original makeup of the Supremes.
@Tiandra Pelmer How so? I guess you’re yet another one who believes the myth that Flo and Mary invited Diana to join the group? Not so! Paul Williams of the Primes (later, the Temptations) invited Diana to join the group around the same time that Milton Jenkins invited Flo to find girls to join HIS all-girl group, The Primettes. It was Diana’s voice along with H-D-H/Funk Bros which created the magic of the group’s hits.
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I hope Mary Wilson is in peace She passed away yesterday.Rest Easy Mary Eilson.
Diana Ross is in touch and articulate. What a talent and human. She has touched my life since childhood. I am 64 now and a "diva.”
RIP to the absolutely incredible Mary Wilson. I’m glad to hear that Mary and Diana eventually made peace, and took a gorgeous photo with Barry Gordy a couple years back. Such a talent 💕
They never made peace Diana was being cordial
Why are you even tainting this interview, with anything to do Mary Wilson. Mary was a snake! Diana Ross, long left the Supremes, and made a life far beyond them.
@@strausd02 tru
@@anthonywinn9651 Seriously! Taking a picture with someone, doesn't mean what you want to think! How many times have you heard Diana Ross say anything really negative about anyone, even Mary. Can you say that about Mary!
@@strausd02 I thought I ended it by saying tru now your going on and on. Diana is a positive person even at her shows she give props to ppl. I’m jus tired of black female singers certain old asses got something to say and I’ve always said if u had a issue with her for something back in the day u should have nipped it then and not wait 30 or 40 yrs. Miss Gladys knight Miss patti
Barbara Walters never ask a black woman If the hair on her head is real! As long as it look good that's all that matters. Lol she tried it.
2022 RIP Barbara Walters!!!!
+Kat lol....this is not the 1st time barbara has interviewed diana....and not the 1st time she has asked her that stupid disrespectful question.......is it my hair....i brought it....i paid for it....yes!!!!...its my hair!!!...barbara i know your gettin on in age but you have asked that question mny times in the past...enough already....
+Chase Jackson I always thought she had it out for Diana, asking those type of questions is unprofessional for one and just plain unnecessary. If she really wanted to know then she could have asked off camera not live in front of the whole damn world. Smh
Kat she really did. That hateful jealous hag.
Why, why can't you ask a black woman if her hair is real? It's a fair question.
Kat Yes she she needed to get smacked for that .
The supremes made wearing wigs look glamorous.
nancy breaux yes they did
Almost every female artist wore wigs then AND now. Even Michael Jackson wore wigs...but he started wearing them because of that burn on his head, his hair never grew back.
@@denisegipson1800 Not sure why you brought up Jackson as you said he had a good reason to wear it we're talking about the female artists here
@@TheNarutodbzss19 lmao
To be clear, Mary deserves every bit of recognition for her role in forming the legacy of the Supremes. What's sad is that she allowed her own legacy to become one of bitterness, anger and pettiness. The music business is full of examples of popular groups where one member went onto solo stardom, that's just a fact. I agree with Diana that Mary allowed herself to become a victim...she made a whole publishing career out of it! Just sad at the end of the day. Meanwhile Diana is still putting out positive music (like it or not) at 77. Did she step on some toes along the way? Sure. But no more than any man who's ever tried to climb the ladder of success. Haters gonna hate. Keep on keepin' on Ms. Ross! RIP Mary..the music lives on
AGREE,,,,,,
Ditto!
What? No no no no let's be real here. Y'all know Berry and his family did some dirt to a lot of people for years giving more and more money to Diana. Of course Diane will have more money than Flo and Marry.
It's a whole lot of stuff Berry, Diana and SMOKEY don't wanna get out.
@@maxday1000 this finger pointing and feuding among fans is 50 years old when these girls were teenagers. Mary is dead and Diana is 78 years old. time to move on with your life
correction - 60 years
Diana carries herself so well. A real diva
Diana Ross. Talent, great look, great voice and a hard worker. Still working and the whole darn world just loves and admires her. As well they should.
That's Right.
Joseph Paul Diana was in modeling school. Diana had the machine behind her; an unlimited amount of resources. I guess sleeping with the boss does pay off!!!
Joseph Paul that’s because she is rich and famous who have coaching on how to talk in interviews
That's not what I heard
That hair! Awesome.
I admire how Diana carries herself with such class.
More like drama 😭
I saw Diana perform 9/30/18.. She is now an AMAZING 74 YEARS YOUNG!! She put on one hell of a show!! I Don't THINK THERE IS A PERFORMER TODAY THAT CAN DIM THIS LEGENDS LIGHT!!!!
Ulol ka!
I agree💖⚓
People always said Diana wasn't the best singer of the group, but I think she had the best range and her own unique style. Haters in and out of the group..
And it dint hurt her much sleeping with a married boss...And having a secret child for years...
@@carlosnoriega6878 And I oop!!! ☕️ 😂😂😂
She never sounded terrible and was an amazing vocalist. She could SANG. I’m a little bit confused why people say she wasn’t a good singer.
@@carlosnoriega6878 Blame the man too, pls move.
@@carlosnoriega6878 You talk like a jealous Queen ! say what you will Miss Ross is loved by thousands of people around the world ! what are you known for?
She is so gracious and well spoken here. Yes, it was her voice, tenacity and the "x factor" that put her out front, first and foremost. And so glad of it!
Plain and simple, Diana was the star of the show, whether or not Berry Gordy was involved or if Mary liked it. All eyes were always on Diana. There was something about her talent, looks, voice, smile, posture, etc. that captivated audiences and made them fall in love with her (like me). You'd have to be a very special performer to have a 50 yr. + career run!
so true,so true....berry gordy was a black man with a dream during a time of literal civil unrest.....if diana cld not cut the mustard
berry wld have dumped her on the side of the road n kept it moving...intimate relationship be damned.....I think most have figured that Mary is just bitter.
All Eyes Was Not On Diana During The Supremes Day.. Eyes Were On Florence and Mary Also.. Depending On What Show They Were On .. If Berry Gordy Around.. He Wanted The Spot Light On Her.. On The Sammy Davis Show It Was A No No.. And Shindig .. Hullabaloo Showed The Beauty Of All Three.. If You Are Into Ross So Be It. I Remembered Well
I Agree 💯👍🏽
@@sunshinerobinson1123 Diana. Was. About. At. The. Moment. Self. Love 💖💖💖. For. Her. Future.
That is a lie - Diana Ross is a disgrace and extremely selfish
This is not rocket science! It was the Diana Ross "Return to Love" Tour, not the Supremes Tour. When you are a part of someone else's tour, you either accept what is on the table, or decide that you don't agree with the terms and go your way. Mary and Cindy could not possibly get equal billing because it was NOT their tour! Period! Diana was simply trying to use a portion of the concert to pay tribute to her time with the Supremes. But it was still HER concert, so she takes precedence naturally.
+Marsena i am not in disagreement with you but the facts are a little distorted.....this is the spin diana put on it once the shit hit the fan.....before i enter into the diana spin...keep in mind that diana already did/does a supremes medley in any tour she does this fact is what i believe diana based her rational on(but she does not perform the original supremes songs in their entirety but an abbreviated version)........ Diana released her final album on motown. and was putting together a tour to promote the album(which is standard with any new album)....a close friend of diana's (scott Sanders) suggested diana invite the two former members and add a supremes segment where they wld perform some of the biggest hits in their entirety......somewhere along the line that suggestion evovled into an entire show of supremes songs in their entirety(songs from diana's album wld also be included)...this tour went on 2 be promoted as the supremes return to love tour(once the surpremes return to love tour was cancelled because of poor ticket sales.....a few years later diana went out on tour and rebranded the tour....diana ross return to love tour). Diana attempted to spin the story as if they were invited guests on her tour and that is not xactly the case....Diana was assuming the role of promotor(similar to the way Floyd Mayweather jr does).....which meant she wld lay out the upfront money ....she was pulling the strings behind the scenes but had a middle man making the offers...when mary was 1st contacted she inquired who the promoter was and could not get a clear ans...when she did some digging...she learned that diana was acting as the promoter....that is when the shit hit the fan(because mary figured that if diana was the promoter....by the end of a successful tour diana cld easily walk away with $20 million in pure profit...but the promoter lays out miiions of dollars in advance promoting the tour,booking the venue,printing tkts and insurance)...when things fell apart with mary..diana decided to move head anyway.......and recruited two girls who never really had a connection to the surpremes.....the name of the tour was discussed on the oprah winfrey show..it was promoted as a surpremes reunion tour....diana believed that she was always the main factor of the group and therefore did not need mary.....turned out this was not the case....the tkt sales were very,very poor and diana was forced to cancel the remaining tour dates....so mary had the last laugh but cost herself millions in the process.....because mary tours and earns money but she does not routinely earn $4 million dollars which is what she was offered for the tour...
+Chase Jackson wow! I didn't know that it started out as a Supremes tour with Diana as promoter. Thank you for the clarification. Yeah, that sounds like a mess! I can see now that Mary had every reason to be upset about the unfairness of the situation.
+Marsena they way i xplained it here was the xact way it was xplained by wikepedia in diana's bio...she also appeared on oprah and xplained that it was a reunion tour of the surpremes....diana who detests negative things said about her had anything pertaining to the Y2K tour removed frm her bio....i am not in disagreement with you and respect that you are entitled to your opinion.......i believe that diana did not want it revealed that she was the promoter because of the problems it wld create if mary new....let's go back to the surprems original inception to motown and evolve to present day which i believe wil xplain my rational.....when the surpremes 1st signed with motown they started out as a three member girl group all equal......some where along the line diana became the primary grp member to sing lead on all their songs (unprecedented) move head 2 more years and the name of the 3 member girl group was changed to Diana ross & the surpremes and the other two had been reduced to background singers(while mary pretends to not be bothered by this her wrds n actions don't align)......diana went solo and some wld say built a very successful solo career.....while her album sales declined by the mid-eighties(which is the norm in the music industry)it is an irrefutable fact is that she has toured successfully and still does to this day. In diana's divorce settlement she walked away with $25 million dollars and a seperate trust for her two sons that she was the administrator of(while diana remains an administrator of the trust....she has no pwr once the boys turned 21).......so money was not a factor in her decision to promote a surpremes reunion tour.....while mary tours and earns money...she peforms in much smaller venues than diana ross and her ticket pricing is much lower... In diana's mind..when the surpremes broke up they were billed/promoted/branded as Diana ross & the surpremes and the other two had been reduced to background singers.....fast forward 30yrs later and a reunion wld not change what diana viewed them as when they broke up....background singers......while it is an irrifutable fact that Mary wilson is a founding member of one of the most successful girl grps of the 60's that did not make her able to command equal pay as diana ross other than in her own ego.....the stance mary took in 2000 is the stance she shld have taken when diana was asserting herself as the lead singer of the surpremes and reducing the other two to back=up singers.....I think that as mary has played this over in her mind over the years....she regrets that she did not stand in her convictions (as flo ballard did)and take a stance but she was young naive and afraid to stand in her convictions.....but again no disrespect to you and your opinion.
+Chase Jackson I respect your perspective too. Your information clarified a lot of things for me. Thank you for sharing it.
+Marsena Especially when you consider it's the same mess Diana has been pullling since Mary asked her to join the group with her and Florence in 1960! Diana bedded the producers at Motown so that she could get all the leads. Smokey Robinson's wife even had an altercation in the 60s with young Diana about it - google it lol. Then once Diana got her claws in Berry it was over for Supremes Flo and Mary AND virtually all other female acts at Motown from Kim Weston and Mary Wells to Martha/Vandellas and The Marvelettes.
The only album both Flo and Mary get a lead vocal on the same album is the group's first album Meet The Supremes. By their last album as an original trio, they were fighting just to sing background vocals. This is the background history to Mary saying "no thanks" to the 2000 tour. After continuing the group legacy after Flo's firing and Diana leaving, the group had numerous top 10s and 20s in the US and UK during the 70s leading up to Flo's death in '76. Mary also had a best-selling book. She had every right to refuse the tour offer.
Diana has done all she can to eclipse The Supremes legacy but the 10 (total of 12 including '67-69) #1s that Flo, Mary and Diana sang and released will always be embedded in pop history. It's just a shame she's the only one remembered when if you listen to Meet the Supremes she's hardly the best vocalist. The power of ambition...
Say what you will about Ms. Ross but it was her voice and her charm that shined on the television and radio back then and I couldn't get enough of her. I loved her then and I love her now!!
Y’all saying fuck Florence Mary and Cindy huh ?? It’s all about Diane!?
And there's ALOT to say.
Whew, I hear the supreme shade between the hair comment from Barbara along with Mary and Diana. I only wish that Florence Ballard was still here for her tell-all.
Yes!! Expose the true ms Ross. Sick of the front she puts on
Fancy Vizion well Mary is here but I think age can’t be honest as industry is an elite 🤫
Tell what ? more lies about Diana Ross, she never could've taken them to the top like Diana did,even with great voice that people clame she had. I've heard some of the solo stuff she did and it's not good at all.
@@Yourfavorite-cx6jz pp you're not used to women with CLASS.
Craven DuBose class? Lol so sleeping with the guy your friend and group mate is dating, is class??? 🤦🏻♀️🤫 you’re an idiot who isn’t smart enough to acknowledge an act. She’s a smut!
Detroit guy here. I love them all. I will always love Florence Ballard, too. God Bless ,Flo and Mary. I wish Diana the best, too.
Posted by Lidia:
As good as "The Supremes" were, Gordy knew it was Diana who had what it took in every single way (That's why he fell in love with her). She was the whole package, her voice, her looks, her elegance and the distinctive classy style she has to shine on her own. Diana, naturally, outshines everyone, men or women, becoming the star even when sharing the light with great ones... "I'm Gonna Make You Love Me" a duet with Stevie Wonder shows how she does it, she not only sings, she engages completely with Stevie and with their audience. Diana knew her worth and her power, flied solo and negotiated her business deals in private and solo...The other Supremes could have continued making great hits as a group, if that's what they loved...What stopped them?
"I'm gonna make you love me" is Diana Ross and The Supremes with The Temptations/Eddie Kendricks.......not Stevie Wonder
@@damanixxstaxx6113 Then you don't know a great deal about Diana's live TV performances. She and Stevie sang "I'm Gonna Make You Love Me" live on TV (Live At The Hollywood Palace) as pointed out by Jim Koral...IF you could be bothered to read what he actually put about engaging with the audience ten you would have realised this!
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@@damanixxstaxx6113 but her and Stevie sung it as well
@@damanixxstaxx6113 She and Stevie sang it live on TV (Live At The Hollywood Palace)
What stopped them wasn't the talent, it's the networks and power players and the business investment backing that you need to propel your career. Berry put all that behind Diana successfully. MW and Sandy for whatever reason couldn't muster an industry around themselves. Diana was hungrier and smarter.
LMFAOO the way Barbara asked if that was her real hair towards the end, how was that even relevant to the other questions😭
Barbara ALWAYS asked her that question. It was rather juvenile for an otherwise professional journalist
Always loved and still do Diana Ross and her voice is Uniquely hers that made the Supremes but she is indeed a Diva and indeed a Primadonna Mary was nice had a nice voice but the Supremes would never have been without Diana
i dont even think mary had a great voice but ok as a backing singer
Mary was sneaky and vendictive. You only have to look at how she dealt with her career. Somehow she always wanted to ride Diana Ross coattails. Stop interpreting her sweet smile, as niceness. Listen to her interview with Larry King... Barbara Walters played a part of it, when she interviewed Diana Ross. Keep it real.
@@strausd02 Oh how would you know?
@@strausd02 diana was grimy and wicked
@@strausd02 you have so much to say on a person who's not here anymore
leave people who are not here anymore alone stop trying to put them down you're wicked and cruel just like ross
What a crazy question for Barbara, to ask Diana! Is that your real hair? And Diana shot back at Barbara, with is that yours? Classy! 🎶🎤🎶
That question had made me laugh, though!
Light in the Piazza mane not meant to be an insult but not appropriate. Will she ask non black women going forward or has she ever asked nonblack women that question??
There’s nothing wrong with asking someone that.
@@iamtrawayne1558 rude
These a pre set questions.
A star if her caliber will not even contemplate without.
Diana interviews always are:
her 5 children
her new tour/album
how many costume changes
her hair
her significance to women
Its called Jealousy... Can be dangerous.
Yep.
Diana Ross answered the question regarding her hair in a very classy dignified manner. She is a true Diva after all. Take notes Barbara Walters, though I love you.
"Is that your real hair?" Wow. How off-putting. If she didn't ask Barbra Streisand in '76, why ask Diana Ross in '89?
Because Streisand was not known for wearing wigs. Ross rarely appeared in public wearing her own hair. Nevertheless, Walters ALWAYS asks questions that she would never want to answer herself!
Yeah well she s always doing that irritating thing with her hair. Don't Walters being racist but more irritated by her touching her hair. Like I was.
@@pianoman551000 virtually all women wear weave in the industry.......c'mon now black women are the only women forced to reveal.thier.hair.isn't.thiers
She should have asked her if that was her real ugly face
bach baroque Whether Barbara Streisand was known for wearing wigs like Diana or not that is not an appropriate question to ask anyone. Walters needed to be slapped in her shit because she’s known for asking intrusive, distasteful borderline disrespectful questions to guest.
I respect Diana Ross, she's living proof that no matter where you came from if you work hard dreams can come true
She worked very hard. And I can only imagine the countless number of bedframes (especially headboards) Gordy must have had to replace because of her fiercely determined worth ethic.
Ms. Ross is indeed the supreme! love this lady black lady so much!
As I read years ago, right after Mary published "Dreamgirl: My Life As A Supreme", ONE opinion that I read by some was that Mary and a LOT of other Motown singers' shortfall was: they didn't realize that show business is a BUSINESS -- just like any other type business. That's why Mary and others couldn't understand that in order to 'crossover' in an act, you have to be marketable. Diana's voice wasn't the soulful earthiness that most Afr. Americans were used to, but hey -- it SOLD via crossover. Berry Gordy envisioned ALL of the Motown acts to crossover. When it came to The Supremes, Diana had the voice to achieve this goal. Show Business is a BUSINESS. You market the best talent that you have in order to be successful. Diana's voice was suited for pop music AND soul music. Her voice was marketable in both genres. Sure, Diana's not perfect -- she has personality flaws, too, but I cannot entirely blame Diana for anyone else's career direction since Diana went solo. Show business is a BUSINESS.
@Delores Perry Thank you. I bow down to you. Excellent evaluation of the whole "DR vs The Supremes" scenario.
Mary Wilson wants to blame Miss Ross for her not being successful in music and in Hollywood. Mary was not gifted with the voice and class that Miss Ross has.
@@selfishone6634 u can say that again
VERY true. They all were talented. But Miss Ross was more marketable. To be honest. Miss Wilson's voice seemed more suitable to jazz. I think she would have been awesome in jazz. Miss Ballard was more soulful. But Miss Ross was great for crossover. Everybody had their own special talents. People get online and argue about comparing apples to oranges.
Let's not forget Ross slept with her boss, Berry Gordy (founder of Motown).
You cannot deny that Diana was a superstar, from take one.
@@AliKhan-yx1dy Really yes totally
@@AliKhan-yx1dy What’s that got to do with anything? Another stupid comment. There are millions of singers who don’t have voices like Mariah (who has a great voice, but one that I can’t stand to listen to, but I appreciate her status and stardom) Whitney had a voice back in the day, but that was short lived, pretty much like her career and her life. Eventually her voice was worth nothing. Diana has a different kind of voice. She never was a powerhouse vocalist and that’s ok. The music industry would be dreadful if they all sounded like Whitney and Mariah.
Diana came along and helped break down boundaries and barriers, alongside a few other female black artists. She was the full package too. A voice and bucket loads of star power and charisma.
They were hating on Diana... She had a quality that they lacked and she maximized every opportunity she could to further her career. She was the STAR.
People can’t seem to let go of the version of Diana at 17 a 24 years old. That was her at her most egotistical. She’s not a terrible person, she’s just strong and loves on herself, and has good self awareness. People just can’t stand it.
Cindy songbird was not an original member. She was a replacement for Florence
Heather Velasco Many people consider her a founding member since Flo is often the forgotten one.
When you Sleep with the Owner of Motown
SHE RIDICULOUS A DIVA MEANS DIFFICULT
THAT WAS SOME IGNORANT SHIT TO ASK
Diana was a real diva bitch I dare her try to play the victim
You got ahead sleeping your way though get your life
I can see why Micheal Jackson liked her. She's very classy and elegant. Soft spoken and polite.
She's classy & elegant as a performer
Behind the scenes, though, she definitely extols a temperamental, ultra competitive demeanor....she's notorious for not being the easiest musician to work with on matters. Per one report, she had as many as 20 personal assistants or more in a single calendar year.
One of my neighbors worked her concert years ago, stating they could not look her in the eyes & the set had to be decked in purple or she wouldn't sing.
Not to say I dislike Diana...she is my overall favorite singer & there's no doubt she blazed TONS of trails for women entertainers through a work horse, dedicated professional ethic. However, one can't deny her extensive history of being conniving, bitchy, infantile & rude.
Yes Michael Jackson loved the Supremes
Michael Jackson liked her?Looked at his body language on camera when they're together.Even when Michael smiles and publicly pays her compliments.Michael knew how to play the game,this is a very shady person so many have disassociated themselves with.
She’s a snake
cool it now 001 Michael has said on and off camera, and even in his book that he was IN LOVE with her.
Diana, you are gorgeous!
I think that Diana acknowledges the way that both she, but mainly the music industry treated the other members of the supremes but she was so young and focused on her own dreams that it didn’t fully register until years later. I think her doubling the offer and trying to make Mary apart of the tour was her way of trying to fix that, but all Mary simply wanted was the respect that she so well deserved and her old friend back.
It's interesting that Mary never refuted Diana's comments in this interview such as she offered to double what the promoter offered Mary or that Diana helped out Mary in the past financially when she had difficulty.
Mary Wilson was always gorgeous. RIP beautiful Ms. Wilson and thank you for the music as well as raising the self-esteem of Black women. We love you.
Daina Ross always had it from the start, I follow her all the way I was one her biggest fan she just stood out always she had the talent the look and was very smart she knew what she wanted and a very good mother she is my favorite star, she great at what she does, plenty of women would be jealous of her she had it really going on and when you got it shows
I can understand what Diana is saying here. She had an opportunity to shine and she went for it. Anyone would have done the same. Even Mary or Flo. But, give credit to all of them.
And she was simply more ambitious...why should a person cut their ambition in half for others that aren't? However...Diana could have a been a little more...understanding to her bandmates. But...I do understand. In the end...its just you. I understand Diana.
@@AlkalineInsides that's right she was so ambitious that she had to lay up with her unattractive looking boss. What kind of ambition is that. And don't bother to respond, that was one of those self-answering questions.
AMEN!!!!! Very well said @Barb.
@@scuzzettafonkbush1794 “unattractive boss”😂😂😂
Barbara: “ Do you like being called a diva?” Diana: “yes I do!” BLOOP!
What a stupid question, Barbara asked. Of course. To me she is a Diva.
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Oh please 🙄
Diana is such a legend! I love listening to her music with my mom, she was to my mom and her generation what Beyonce is to me and our generation.
Except Diana can really sing.
I love that for us so much, Black Woman supremacy 🥺😍
@@ttee3618 So can Beyoncè. Move.
@@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 do not do that to yourself.
@@ttee3618 Both Diana Ross and Beyonce can sing. You're crazy.
so gracious and humble...who can top this lady...its her voice that shot them to fame.
Her voice without them would not have survived alone without sleeping with some men to get to the top.
You are right. It is Diane's voice that shot the Supremes to fame. And good looks and pretty smile helped. Everybody liked Diana and everybody knows her voice. Heck, I know the words but if I sing Baby Love, people might start to throw stuff at me. It's not easy to perfect those songs. It is work. Fun work, however, cause you like it. Later you realize the audience really loves it..
grace mclean
florence ballard toped her
She doesn't have the kinda voice to shoot anyone to fame. That new sound and some of the best written and arranged songs in Motown's history is what shot them to fame. Her voice is cute but very garden variety
Been listening to them since I was 9 I'm 61 now she's a great singer
Omg you're always going to have a voice in a group that's stronger than the other - it's generally what makes or breaks a band.
I've had the Solo Carrer for over 30 Years 👏🏽🎤
DIANA ROSS 🌟
👨🏾🏫 Let's Be Clear
Yea she fucked her way up clearly has a child with barry gordy
@@tyamkeaaskew6148 So did Diana have his baby to get herself a bigger star and to further her career as a Supreme? I'm not clear about this
@@johnlomax2770 in my opinion yes i mean it clearly shows she had the worst voice
@@tyamkeaaskew6148 Then you know nothing and you're just posting because you're a troll. Diana and Berry started their relationship *after* she was globally famous, and *AFTER* and had sung lead on FIVE consecutive number 1s in 1965 (she had been at Motown for 4 years by that time). Every hit they had was fronted by Diana. If she had the worst voice then those records would never have sold. She sang lead on 12 number 1s and endless other hits. Her voice was considered the most appealing and commercial of the girls
Now! This is the bit where you are completely wrong. I asked you if Diana had Berry's baby to further her career as a Supreme, to which you answered "YES". These are the facts which you seem to be ignorant of: Diana left the Supremes after the "Farewell" concert on January 14th 1970. She gave birth to their daughter, Rhonda on August 14th, 1971, exactly 19 months AFTER her departure from The Supremes. NINETEEN months after she left the group she had Berry's baby...so how can you claim she had his baby to make herself a bigger star when she was already a superstar, had already left The Supremes, and when she'd already been at Motown for over 10 years?? Your claim makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, but it "clearly shows" nothing other than you're an idiot!
OH!! and by the way, IF you're going to post stuff about People, then get their names right! The man's name was BERRY, *NOT* Barry!
tyamkea sanderlin The public still bought her voice and performances without knowing any of that so...doesn’t matter.
Here in 2020!
Diana Ross has a unique beautiful singing voice!!!!!
Kinda like a sick cat....oops! Lol
If by unique u mean monotone. No high, middle, or low...just one level boring tone.
@@theanswer7354 , that was funny and on the money.
Diana Ross is legendary, iconic, grace, class, and a national treasure. It's unfortunate for Mary, but let's be real; Diana WAS the Supremes, and the fact that she then went on to an even more successful solo career proves it.
AMEN
She does have a great voice. However, she backed by her baby daddy, B Gordy. It created a problem between the women.
@@sandrajackson5163 Yeah, she got a leg up by Gordy, but Diana was the only one with the "it" factor, which is probably why he pursued her professionally and personally.
Diana, Mary & Flo were all the Supremes not just Diana
@@loriepostlewaite162 LOL!
Elegance, poise, sophisticated. Diva extraordinaire. The Boss..Diana Ross!!!🎶💯👸🏾
Diane should have told Barbara maybe she should get some hair because that hairstyle is tired! Barbara just hating because Diana is beautiful and classy!
Naw, she should have told her to visit a different facial surgeon. her face was about to fall apart
@Ebe J "Diana" Learn it!
Punkanelly Lovejoy Hey Miss TWTR4EVER . LOL everyone knows all of your aliases
Amen to that.
@@selfishone6634 Thank you! It really pisses me off when people call Diana Ross "Diane" it's disrespectful! They don't call Stevie Wonder "Steveland" it's a dig.
She is a star❤
I thought they were all great! Talented, Strong, Soulful Singers that influenced and is still influencing the world to this day!
I love Mary Wilson, and still love Florence Ballard
Diane looks like she is COMPLETELY over it in this whole interview
+Twaddles McGee - get over it girl. Diana has and she was the famous Supremes lol
Diana
Twaddles McGee - You shouldn't talk about Mary like that, And Mary doesn't have a weave bad just a Jacked up wig and she never was shit
Twaddles McGee are you TWTR4EVER ?Lol
Miss Brown you right about Mary a no talent background singer
LOVE YOU MS. DIANA ROSS!!! DIVA, ICON,LEGEND,SUPERSTAR!!!!
Mary should have snatched that 3 million.
Try $4 to 6 million for 30 days of work. Mary is dumb
@@blogshagify she passed on a huge bag on the back of a barely reheated beef. she was a foolish girl
Y? So she could shut her up? Nah. Always stand for what u believe in. She is greatly angered with ross bc of what ended up happening to the original group member, florence ballard. Not that tvone unsung bs btw
I would of taken that three million. And worked with it.
All because she is top proud to go on with it. Diane had that it factor and mary should accept it.
*HAPPY 71st BIRTHDAY DIANA!!* (26/03/15)
I love Diana Ross' hair! I'm growing it out like that. Or SZA's.🙏
Bc there’s so much to correlate between the two🙄
Mary Wilson said they were equal until Diana started dating Berry Gordy and wanted to be the leader of the group which is probably true. RIP Mary Wilson.
Who is Barry?
@@VBN997 Berry Gordy.
@@freddie3206 I knew who Berry is. The poster used the name Barry originally
So sad a reunion will never ever happen. RIP Mary Wilson
In entertainment, no one steals anyone's spotlight. People choose which star shines brighter and they turn to it, and Diana's star shines brighter. She is also an amazing actress I recently watched her in Mahogany and no one in that group would have done it better. Mary Mary Mary......🙄
You cant make anyone happy in life you create your own happiness i LIKE MRS ROSS shes a great ENTERTAINER fabulous movie star mahogany that was fun movie
R.I.P. Mary Wilson
I think it must hurt the Supremes to have Diana be the star, but really, Motown weren't stupid. Diana may not have had the strength in her voice of Florence, but she had a marketable soft pop rnb voice. She had the charisma too. Motown made her the lead for that reason. Look at shows like the X Factor, Simon Cowell works in similar ways, he puts people together, he tears them apart and says if someone would be more marketable than the next. The music business doesn't just work on whose better than who, it's a whole bunch of things that goes into making a 'star', not just vocal talent.
But, Diana's lead sold millions of records world wide so obviously people loved her vocals. I simply love Diana's voice, she has a beautiful tone, softness and she can project too. She was talented, she had star power... she is a living icon, a legend in music. It's unfortunate that the other Supremes never got more of a spotlight, yes it is. Florence deserved more. Yet Diana's successs wasn't a fluke either.
+Zelda Zonkin' Exactly. To me Diana's voice feels like a cool breeze. Barry Gordy even said that Florence and Mary had fine voices but they weren't unique like Diana's voice was.
+Zelda Zonkin' Diana's success was no fluke, from the early days when The Supremes were teased as the 'no hit' Supremes by other Motown acts, Diana was already having intimate relationships with producers at Motown. Then once her place as lead was solidified she started dating Berry as the hits began to roll in and from then on ALL promotional efforts were diverted to Diana. There is no way she couldn't have been a star. Offers came in for Flo for a movie...she was never told. Why? Because Diana was the focus. Why do you think incredible artists like Mary Wells and Kim Weston left Motown in the 60s? Because it was apparent that Berry was obsessed with Diana.
Diana was charismatic and her voice unique but that's not why she became the Queen of Motown. She became the queen because she was bedding the founder, the creator and the CEO, who gave her everything she wanted at everyone else's expense. It's the oldest trick in the book.
+Slaychelle - Thank you so much for the information, now tell us when did you work at Motown and what group did you sing in????
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This is all public info, freely available in interviews with said Motown acts, Motown employees on CZcams AND also in books written by said Motown alumni :)
Slaychelle - Girl Please! you would lie also if you worked at Motown and you group did make it, It's Called Envy!
I will always Love Diana
You can’t steal the spotlight. You see it magically just steals you if the SUPREME talent is there. Diana’s looks didn’t exactly hurt her either. 🎤
Diana Ross is legendary and ICONIC. Everyone else around shares in her light
Extremely rude of Walters to ask The Boss Miss Ross about her hair.
And TOTALLY off topic. 😒
bowiegerl very rude and targeting her stardom fame , jlo , Mariah all
Wear fake hair too , how dare you Barbara !
If Diane didn't keep making pointless flicks at her fake hair, to make people notice it, then maybe she wouldn't get questions about her weave!
Darrin Hauxwell it’s true she always flicks the front hair as she talks a terrible habit she does as the hair is too much on her eyes
Darrin Hauxwell you don’t know if it’s a mirror and she didn’t like how it was positioned or person telling her to adjust
Darrin Hauxwell like who cares it’s her hair
OMG, it's been 14 years since this interview? Wow, I remember this like it was last night
Diana is always soooo classy. Whatever side you take you can’t deny how graceful she is.
Diana didn’t steal the spotlight, she WAS the spotlight! Diana is awesome
Funny she NEVER got Grammy for music or being the spotlight.... LMAO
Huh? She don't want that Florence Ballard movie made it would expose the Truth..
Exactly !
@@maxday1000 No one is interested in a Flo Ballard movie!
@@barrylester6306 A lot of people is
IVE ALWAYS LOVED DIANA ROSS HER VOICE LIKE AN ANGEL AND HER SPIRIT IM SO GLAD I GOT TO SEE HER ONCE AND I WILL NEVER FORGET HOW TRULY BEAUTIFUL SHE IS IN PERSON
If I was that lady I wouldn't care about the money, just to have some recognition back would've made me happy.
Perlita ==== settling for the crumbs no thank you Mary has already been there.
@@reealitychick Now THAT'S what I call a reality check. Good on you girl.
We will miss you gorgeous.❤️❤️❤️
R.I.P Mary Wilson.
So classy I got to be on stage with her when i was 5 great memory
Why she never asked non-black women that question? We are not the only ones or the first ones to wear weave.
Hell even white men were wearing weaves in the 1800 so why do they act so surprised
Dolly Parton has her own line of wigs.
I think your taking it too personally, her big hair ended up becoming a trademark part of her public persona for a very long time. When you see big wild hair like that the first person you would think of was Diana Ross.
@@denisegipson1800 if that's the case then why ask. I've never seen her ask a white person that. Let's call an ace an ace. White women are known for that. Does it matter if her hair is real it does changes anything. Over 20 yrs later and we still get ask those ridiculous questions. We don't ask them if their teeth is real, its ridiculous and no ones business.
@@hebrewqueen9280 She's known for wearing wigs, it's really not that deep.
Diana -you certainly bridged the gap.I was a kid when you were singing first and it opened my ears,eyes and heart xx
Diana spoke very well LOVE U DIANA
Awww ... I luv'd the way Diana Ross answered the question about her hair. She is so poised and graceful.
I've met Michael and Aretha. But I think if I were to meet Diana Ross I would faint!
Shit I would’ve fainted seeing Michael and Patti
Florence was the one that got them together so if it wasn't for flo no supremes ♥️
@Luciano Da Silva That is absolutely NOT true! That’s all a myth. Milton Jenkins started the group. He wanted to start a sister group to the Primes. Milton asked Flo if she was interested in joining his girl band, and she agreed, and she asked Mary who also agreed. At exactly the same time, Paul Williams (of The Primes/Temptations) knew Diana and asked her if she wanted to join the group. Diana agreed, along with his girlfriend Betty McGlown. And so the 4 girl lineup of The Primettes was formed.
They screwed Florence completely.
+trey harris Indeed they did.
Flo did that to herself
Diana Ross didn't give a damn about Mary wells going on this tour.She's all about herself.Shes fake.
@@tyhlerrparrish292 you mean Mary Wilson
@@tyhlerrparrish292 her name is Mary Wilson. Not Mary wells to different people
Miss Ross. The Boss. Unique lady.
Diana Ross is a Queen! She was always the star of the show❤️❤️❤️
I really don’t like Diana Ross.
She is manipulative.
Love u Diana so glad I got to see u in concert ..it was everything and more!
I love Ms Diana Ross! And always will. Legend!
Diana Ross's voice was Motown, so that's why she's a BOSS!! I love her voice and everyone of her songs!!
Diana Ross deserves the attention. She's an amazing performer.
She was, is, and always will be a star!.. End of story.
One of the group members may over time find more success than the others. That’s just the way it goes. Will & Jazzy Jeff; Beyoncé and Destiny’s child, etc... Taking nothing from Ms. Wilson’s talent, but Ms. Ross just had something that made her sparkle just a little brighter. Ms. Wilson wants what Ms. Ross has, and she may well deserve it, but not at Ms. Ross’ expense. What is for Ms. Ross is for Ms. Ross.
I wish Mary and Diana could have worked it out! . It's sad how so many blame Mary for everything!. Some of these comments are just ugly!. We don't know all the nitty-gritty details I'm sure!. It's usually not just one person!
Actually, a lot [of what I hear and read] places Diana at the issues' core.
Show me two non related women co existing in such close proximity for 30 years that weren't at each others throats. Especially when one feels the other is using her pussy against her. CATFIGHT!
GOOD JOB DIANNA !!!! YOU HANDLED YOURSELF AND THAT HAG.. VERY WELL !!!!
Gloria James, yes , Ms James. Diana did handled and that hag very well.
@@freddiemontanez8461 I agree with Freddie, Gloria James, she handled that unhappy hag with class!
Ha ha!
Barbara Walters seems to always be annoying about everything.
Miss Ross poured tea at 8:22
Some people are just born too, be a star... Diana Ross had the voice....
Thank you for this CZcams video of Diana Ross. I will always Love Diana Ross.💗💗💗💗💗💗
Mary Wilson should’ve taken the money. She has her own journey as does Diana Ross.
Girl if I was Mary I would have taken the money and bye bitch after the tour was done
Mary was smart. Her and Diane are not friends...obviously havent talked or worked together in Diane. And im shocked Diane thought relastictly thought Cindy and Mary would want to go on tour with her out of the blue when she didnt try to contact or adress it privately with them. In early 2000 there were so many rumers of her trying to get a Supremes Reunion tour...so when she finnaly called Mary..Marys like what took u so long?
Some people have too much pride.
@@emh8861 Mary Wilson interview czcams.com/video/sBwsDVUSfAg/video.html
Shirley Richardson so true, take the $$$$$
Mary Wilson deserved equal share....It's not what someone's going to give her It's what she has earned 😤She too is Supreme...🖤
The reason why Mary was not getting an equal share is that she was only supposed to participate in a segment for the tour. It would not have been her performing for the concert but perhaps half of it.
Oh c'mom do u think kelly and Michele were earning the same as Beyonce?? Of course not. B was the 🌟!! She earned wayyyyy more thsn them. Its ridiculous to expect for the secondaries to earn the same as the star...
@@taylorsara1237 but Beyonce stood out. Diana wasn't head over heels more talented than Flo and Mary
@@jamo2798 Diana's playful, sensuality made her stand out.
As far as B goes. Think about it. Kelly sings great too. About as well as Beyonce... But she doesn't have that star appeal B has. Same with Diana and the other Supremes.
There's ALWAYS a 🌟..
@@taylorsara1237 I agree 100% with the star analogy you just made. I'm just saying when the Supremes were popular, no particular group member stood out. And the other 2 members were prettier. And Diana didn't have the best voice
You guys can keep going back and forth debating about who has a better voice. But history shows Diana Ross along with Mary Wilson and Florence Ballard made musical history. Now as a single solo artist Mary Wilson can not touch Diana Ross on of her best day and we all know that to be true. And speaking of Diana Ross not selling, Diana Ross is currently in Las Vegas at the Venetian hotel to a sold-out audience.
I also agree with Diana in saying that it was her voice on those songs and now Mary is still touring, singing those songs
Mary *has* to "sing" the songs that Diana sang because she's never had any hits of her own to sing! And the saddest thing is that Mary's voice doesn't suit the songs that Diana sang lead on at all!!
All of them are Supremes! It's THEIR group. Diana didn't make the group successful by herself, it all three of them. Hect, Diana wasn't even in the original makeup of the Supremes.
Now we know, she got in the forefront because she was sleeping with Barry, come on let as keep that real
Mary is a founding member of The Supremes. She has a right to earn a living and a right to the name! Quit dogging on Mary!
Punkanelly Lovejoy totally agree! Mary is awesome to have the perservance to keep the group going!
WOW, I love how Diana is so humble!
Me too.
Humble huh? Let’s all laugh 🥴💀💀
@@FlyyGirl1000 we will all laugh at you!!!!!!!
@@cravendubose8179 laugh on, nigga . Cause I said what I said. 🫠
@@FlyyGirl1000 Another nasty mouth woman, those I just can't STAND.....
I love the hair. It fills the entire screen!!
It’s crazy how if it wasn’t for the flo and Mary there wouldn’t be no Diana Ross
There would be no Supremes without Diana Ross.
@Tiandra Pelmer How so? I guess you’re yet another one who believes the myth that Flo and Mary invited Diana to join the group? Not so! Paul Williams of the Primes (later, the Temptations) invited Diana to join the group around the same time that Milton Jenkins invited Flo to find girls to join HIS all-girl group, The Primettes.
It was Diana’s voice along with H-D-H/Funk Bros which created the magic of the group’s hits.
@@cravendubose8179 Diana Ross can be replaceable do you know how many singers it was back in the day that can sang
@@tiandrapelmer5306 I know that it wasn't flo or mary
@@cravendubose8179 All 3 needed each other to make it. Get it
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Bitter never gets better..RIP MARY.