2015 Math Panel with Donaldson, Kontsevich, Lurie, Tao, Taylor, Milner
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- The 2015 Breakthrough Prize Symposium was held November 10, 2014 at Stanford University and co-hosted by UC-San Francisco and UC-Berkeley. The daylong event included talks and panels featuring Breakthrough Prize laureates in Fundamental Physics, Life Sciences and Mathematics, as well as other distinguished guests.
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Tao is a true math expositor. His manner and openness to the others' ideas are admirable.
He's inspiring
I think even the cleaning lady has a PhD in that room.
loll
Xd
This comment has to come from somebody without a PhD. LOL Let me tell you something, a PhD doesn't mean much and most of the time, it (using s/he is too much trouble and offends the 36th sex) only knows some very basic concept of other field, but lots of specialized knowledge in its tiny and narrow field. These panel members are a rare collection and I see some of these in my own field once in a blue moon (I happen to be a hybrid and ran a few conferences in the past so I know a bit broader than most average scientists).
@@willh.2155 I think you proved your point. You have a PhD and still the joke flew right above your head making a swooosh :P
Probably even the fly in that room got one.
Hearing leading mathematicians discuss or answer questions which are largely philosophical in nature is a beautiful thing
Tao is very coherent and makes things easier to understand . That's definately a sign of his great intelligence
Legend says: if you are stuck in a problem for years, almost giving up on that, your only hope is to interest Terence Tao on it.
Are these 2014 Breakthrough Prize Winning Mathematicians really cleverer than me?!
I am Very Factual and Quite Clever!
I am fully willing to respect Jugimon S and Leonardo Mito, that there are people on this world who are more intelligent than myself.
I know a lot of information but it is superficial rather than being able to solve anything or be creative or truly intelligent myself.
I would like to be a Dr of History or Philosophy but I am not clever enough.
I feel his mouth cant catch up with his brain/thoughts
It is wonderful and fantastic that we have people like these who push the boundaries of our collective knowledge further into the unknown.
What you are really saying sir is, it's wonderful we have these people to do the work while we sit on our ass. When you are going to think and change?
@@garryfitzgerald6233 I think your comment is a little trite
@@christopherblanchard2099 A fact can never be trite, (you can do something with a fact & zero with an ideal) do your own maths and take responsibility. Take care!
@Castlier I'm here!
@Castlier What something is depends on when it is.
This must the the highest concentration of brain power in the entire universe!
czcams.com/video/v-bpGe3f4VQ/video.html
cedric vilani,andrew wiles,michael attiah,mikhail gromov just to name a few.
ever heard of the Solvay conference?
Up at 4 am binge watching these videos. I love seeing how mathematicians think. These guys are so inspiring!
tao is legit thinking about how to solve the twin prime conjecture while doing this...
Watching this in 2021 and all I can think is: they are sitting so close together!
Towards the end they mentioned Grothendieck was alive. That would be true for another three days.
No he died on 13th November
🤣🤣🤣a true inventor of mathematics, Grothendieck
@@smangalisomhlongo5707 I know that your comment is old, but that's not the crying emoji, that's crying while laughing emoji.
@@amritkaur9007 you're replying to a 5 year old comment Amrit.
@@muhammadputera6593 and u r replying to a 1 year old comment lol
They look so young for their age.Tao about 39 at the time. Jacob 36.
It's really wonderful to see and hear these great great mathematicians of the century.
They are so real. Very childlike. It's fascinating but why are they like that? 'Normal ' human interaction involves people having layers upon layers but these guys are so genuine . Why I wonder.
their laughter made me think the same, great question
It’s because they don’t spend time on backbiting or planning wrong things.They just work and explore beautiful ideas which results in a calm,peaceful and positive brain.
Their brilliance spare them . They dont need manipulation , ego amplification and emotionnal deffences to market themselves and get their way through life . The inherent value transcends the need to fit in .
@@youssraelkhoulali8147 This is about the best answer I've seen. Thank you sir
@@youssraelkhoulali8147 Very well put👍🏻
Tao, Tao, Tao, you're just too brilliant and humble. Very beautiful human being.
It’s exciting to watch these great mathematicians giving their ideas...
Jump to about 10 min to get started, post accolades. Amazing video, panel, lovely answers.
Taylor is like agent Smith here, just making sure nobody says anything about the matrix.
I love how Taos mind works.
All these fellows are brilliant, but because Tao is so young and his first language is English, he has thought a lot about these fundamental questions and can explain himself better.
What a great event
I feel smart just by watching this video.
I am a math teacher . After listening to these great people, I feel that I know nothing about math...555
Hey I teach math on CZcams too
They seem to be really enjoying themselves
I really loved Jacob's answer to the 1st question , it was indeed ingenious of him to think like that, he certainly impressed me among all the people..
That answer given by Jacob to the first question is not original. Many philosophers, especially, kant, put forth those ideas centuries before. Jacob is rehashing those ideas of kant. Read Kant's 'Critique of Pure Reason,' and you will understand what I stated.
All are un comparable and my favourite in yet another way....
Awesome discussion
the amount of brain power concentrated in such a small room is warping spacetime critically to form a black hole
A unique moment with the best mathematicians and physicists currently
Mathematicians are really strange people ! But I love them :)
That is because other people are too common.
Facts
There incredible strengths are not normally in there social capabilities but deeply rooted in there problem solving.
Terence Tao is such a lovely guy. A true genius but with such a nice manner and way of expressing his ideas.
Awesome panel.
Ikr
waw ,great panel!!..nice discussion
Thank you really interesting!!!
Math is the only field where collaborate effort makes a lot of sense, almost any other field involves looseness in system or subjectivity in decisions
Did not understand what they were talking about, but it sounds so interesting 🤔
this was actually rlly fun to watch. very informative and interesting
I feel so stupid when I watch things like this
This is very inspiring.
Mathematics is a way to bound the simulation of possible conclusions to those derivable via some set of axioms. Though those conclusions are implied by our axioms, the axioms are phrasings of things we have reason to believe implicitly, a priori.
***** It is the generation of a set of principles, as per a set of principles, such as to generalize the observed behavior of system, whether that system is "real" or imagined.
I wonder if their check books are balanced?
Terence Tao predicting Chat GPT at 40 minutes, 8 years ago.
Imaginen que entre todos ellos también expresara sus ideas Grigori Perelmán, creo que no hay ningún video donde él exprese su forma de pensar.
The line of questioning is so strong!
Awesome talk :)
🤔... what I would do to have the opportunity to work/learn with any one of them.
Prof. Terrance Tao teaches at UCLA, so u could learn from him if u attended
Andrei Linde speaks at 53:12 I think (not shown in video). Correct?
Shy reticent panel - not your usual flamboyant egocentric popularisers - quite a refreshing change. Take home points: Mathematics is discovered - We live in a Matrix computer simulation.
+Hythloday71 found neo yet?
no, but it is my destiny to, the oracle told me ;o)
If want to solve Fermat need attention to are integer x.y.z conditions carefully
Define
Sx=1+2^2+3^2+4^2+....+x^2.=x(x+1)(2x+1)/6=(2x^3+3x^2+x)/6
Sy=1+2^2+3^2+4^2+....+y^2=y(y+1)(2y+1)/6=(2y^3+3y^2+y)/6
Sz=1+2^2+3^2+4^2+....+z^2=z(z+1)(2z+1)/6=(2z^3+3z^2+z)/6
So
2x^3=6Sx-3x^2-x
2y^3=6Sy-3y^2-y
2z^3=6Sz-3z^2-z
So
x^3=3Sx-3/2x^2-x/2
y^3=3Sy-3/2y^2 - y/2
z^3=3Sz -3/2z^2-z/2
Suppose
x^3+y^3=z^3
3Sx-3/2x^2-x/2+3Sy-3/2y^2 - y/2 - (3Sz -3/2z^2-z/2)=0
Or
2Sx-x^2-x/3+2Sy-y^2 - y/3 - (2Sz -z^2-z/3)=0
Or
2Sx+2Sy-2Sz-(x^2+y^2-z^2) =(x/3+y/3-z/3)
Because
2Sx+2Sy-2Sz-(x^2+y^2-z^2) is integer
So
(x/3+y/3-z/3) is also integer
or
x=3k
y=3h and
z=3g
K,h,g are integers
So
27k^3+27h^3=27g^3.
Or
k^3+h^3=g^3
had had conditions x ^ 3 + y ^ 3 = z ^ 3
Cannot satisfy two conditions in the same time
except
x=k,y=h and z=g
But
x=3k
and
k=x
So
x=3x
this is impossible!
Conclusive
x^3+y^3=/z^3
General
Z^n=/x^n+y^n
Using formular
1^a+2^a+3^a+4^a+....+n^a
pretty sure you can't conclude from x+y-z=3*integer that both x,y and z have to be divisible by 3. take for instance x=1,y=4,z=2.
MrDpsc read french philosophy.
The ultimate computational language (not a programming language; the distinction being an easy interface for humans to think computationally (rather than translating thoughts into a programming language for the computer to do the calcuation)) is Wolfram Langauge.
GREAT MATHEMATICIANS
Terence is really a master mind of mathematics
I didn't know if it was summer or winter.
43:48 can anyone clarify what he was talking about the proper names for it all
Do light waves deteriorate over time ?
Really interesting to hear super brainy people talk!
can someone tell me which is the question at 55:00 which is remained unanswered? I do not get to understand
Questioner asked about prospects of Univalent Foundations which is a foundational program in Mathematics still under development under which a newly developed theory that goes by the name Homotopy Type Theory will replace the current foundations of Mathematics i.e Zermelo Frankel Set Theory with Axiom of Choice.
There's infact a whole heated discussion in the comment section of a Blog post specifically on Lurie's " No Comment ! " reaction.
mathematicswithoutapologies.wordpress.com/2015/05/13/univalent-foundations-no-comment/
Lurie himself is part of this discussion.
@@pursuingstacks I can understand very little of the discussion, but thanks for your answer!
when Tao said that was 2 % of the job done i stopped the video and recalculated 200/10000 ...proof check completed..okthxbye
I myself received a passing grade in business math while still in high school.
Lovely people
Maxim comments that he can't believe that nature resembles a vector space, and that it should instead be a manifold. What exactly does he mean by that?
I'm keep waiting for the to bring Hirata, Tao, Ung and Pereleman together.
@Sirin Kalapatuksice But DAAAAMN! DAAAAAMN! I want them to live together, They would make human civilization fly
Can you subtract from infinity
Paul laurie, brilliant but the jerky head movements are peculiar.
I found that his answers were deep , specific, and well-constructed, and Terry Tao is just brilliant. Taylor is well-spoken. Maxim and Donald - ackward.
Marhematicians do bring "ackward' to higher dimensions, but they are beautifully creative.
Jacob Lurie had an excellent answer to the first question. Cheers.
he is one who is born in a century.Just terribly genius of highest(est) order!
Poincaré and Hadamard were still living in our idea of mathematical there.
dream team !
So guys I hope you'll have invented time machine
Why they speak "discretely"? what did the math do with them?
the questions are so low
Also QUINE is great because NF set theory is hella dope.
Can anyone pls. tell me what Tao said in 52:57？ I only catched 'Gauss is his father'……
+Kexin Zhang: It's a running joke in mathematics:
Q: _"Who was the greatest father/son team in mathematical history?"_
A: _"Gauss and his father."_
Sometimes the answer is: _"Gauss and whoever his father was."_
+Sandor M thanks: ) Is it simply saying that Gauss is mathematician nonpareil?
+Kexin Zhang: Right! Gauss' father wasn't even a mathematician, he was I think a mason, but Gauss' talent was such that it was enough for both of them to outmatch any father/son mathematical team.
+Sandor M hahaha quite true...There're a vast number of Gauss Facts, this one should be added! Mathematicians love him.
Does anyone study shadows ? Can a shadow be infinite?
@40:00, What he said.
Tao looks more like a grad student.
How math of aliens may be different? This question has not been deeply explored. I think, they would have different choices of axioms for logic and set theory to model the same phenomena. They could have different axiomatization of probability, and so on. They could be finitists, discovering finite difference equations, rather than differential equations. They could be more abstract, not limiting mathematics to mathematical operations between objects, but exploring properties of objects under arbitrary sets of operations, and so on. However, mathematical philosophy aside, their math would be applicable to solve physical and practical problems. So, imagine what other algorithms could solve the same physical problems that we have, and you can discover what alternative mathematics aliens may have.
You don't notice camera work until someone does it badly.
My OCD was screaming all though this video
The sum of their IQ's approaches infinity
So my dong length and weight
Why can't we measure time itself ?
My answer to greatest mathematician ever is S.RAMANUJAN, EULER AND JACOBI
@ 37:11 "Can you imagine a massive group making a significant break through (in mathematics)?"
The proof of the classification of finite simple groups. Yes, that took place before the Polymath Project, but it displays a similar approach to the project. Break a big problem into lots of little parts, then individuals go to work on the various parts. What the Polymath project brings is nearly instantaneous communication via technology.
John Conway is the mind behind the classification. All the other helped but the ideas were all Conway’s. In fact he probably had it in mind all along, what remained was for the others to convince themselves. Not really a massive group after all...
Math block chain lmao
12:04 - This is incorrect. At its fundamental level, biology also adheres to physical laws. Even Richard Dawkins mentioned on his channel that Darwinian natural selection would be the primary mechanism by which organisms form and evolve. This suggests that extraterrestrial life could potentially resemble us.
Terence tao!
Jacob is always good 👍
Mathematics, also, cannot be completed. If you disagree with validity of the total generality of some principle, for every possible reality, you will amend it and from those amendments will follow consequences that you will either totally agree with or not. As well, if there are things you can prove that your system cannot, you may just want to embed that ability into the consequences of the grammar you decide to use. What functions are the minimal abilities of a logical system? Can't you just say that, "yea, the world i'm thinking of doesn't have that axiom, so that doesn't happen".
que piensan ? como mover una cuerda dentro de un circulo sin nada ?? de forma ilimitada ?????? :D
Edward Witten, Andrew Wiles, Grigori Perelman, and Chris Hirata anyone?
FichDichInDemArsch It's not your fault.
+FichDichInDemArsch I've watched all of these people speak except for Hirata, and these guys are as good at speaking as a any of them. In fact, I'd say Wiles and Perelman are worse speakers than everyone there. Witten is a better speaker than Kontsevich in English, but Kontsevich is a much better speaker in russian or french than he is in english.
I think I'll stick with the Mr Men books and ABBA.
@FichDichInDemArsch I guess u just can't live normally.
Sir Roger Penrose
Why the moderator seldom ask question to Donaldson ?
He's a moron.
Just like you
you gotta love the fact that they are working in many unsolved conjectures and they are talking about it pretty often (which is very normal and a must in order to attract more ppl to the field), they are relatively famous (in the field - especially tao), and all. Yet, the only person made the real breakthrough about the crazy unsolved problems is a "random" Russian-Jew guy with almost no interviews or any insane CV.
Moderator tucked everything up
43:30 !This is when the professor knew he really fucked up
I had a dream that we were all in a video game at 6, a method of control and disillusion. My parents were politicians, and later I became fascinated with math, but it may be just a comment on nature or humans.
At 25:50 Terrence looks like he knows somethings up
数学により宇宙の外側は、観測できますか？
数学により脳を解明できますか？
53:03
after lunch i need a nap.
11:36 Now, it surprised me to hear this from a mathematician:
Assumption 1: Aliens (if they're civilised) need to count
Assumption 2: Counting can't be any different anywhere in the universe
Assumption 3: Anywhere in the Universe you'd have to measure time and measure space
Conclusion: Probably they'd have the same sort of mathematics
19:55 to 21:20 is really interesting about the matrix we live in.
It would be easy to agree with all of them and praise them. I feel that ultimately we developed mathematics to serve the demands of our physical world and it’s physics as we understood it. In another world where another totally different physical world exists, Taos and Lauries of that world probably developed mathematics totally differently. Just my 2 cents.
@ 25:30
"We have a small number of axioms from which we can build all the mathematics that is known today", what does that mean?
So is all of mathematics is axiomatizable? I thought that question was settled. Godel's incompleteness theorem anyone?
+SalEd LirO'c What are you talking about? It's not a question. All of mathematics we do is axiomatized (people don't actually think about axioms when they work all the time, ebcaue it isn't important). But all mathematics known today can be built up from propositional and predicate logic. It's not a question that Godels theorems prove or disprove.
Grothendick Thanks for reply. I was thinking more along the following lines.
"Principia Mathematica was an attempt to describe a set of axioms and inference rules in symbolic logic from which all mathematical truths could in principle be proven. As such, this ambitious project is of great importance in the history of mathematics and philosophy, being one of the foremost products of the belief that such an undertaking may be achievable. However, in 1931, Gödel's incompleteness theorem proved definitively that PM, and in fact any other attempt, could never achieve this lofty goal; that is, for any set of axioms and inference rules proposed to encapsulate mathematics, either the system must be inconsistent, or there must in fact be some truths of mathematics which could not be deduced from them."
Quotation taken from:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principia_Mathematica
Best wishes.
One thing is to have a formal system in which to express all mathematics, and other (proved to be impossible in the case of Arithmetic by Gödel) thing is to ask for that system to be complete (so that all meaningful statements in that language are decidable in a finite number of steps).
Tao is genius in Harmonic Analysis, number theory, problem solving, finding pattern, and Kontsevich is a genius!
come in contact with aliens and the first thing Tao thinks about is let me see your text books. WOW
上帝佑陶哲軒！
Hello dear friends have a great day mathematical minds