It amazes me how much I have learned from watching tutorials on youtube. From how to split firewood, to how to grow veges in a raised bed, to troubleshoot problems with chainsaws, and so on. When it comes to chainsaw work, I, for one, am still learning how to operate mine. I use my chainsaw a few times a year if that, but it is an essential tool if you live in the country. Life is a great teacher. It can reward you or humble you in the same lesson. Thank you for this video. This is one area that I need to educate myself on when felling trees. Stay blessed and safe out there!
Right, same here. That’s why I made this. There’s a lot of guys like you and me who don’t run saws all year round, but when we need to it would be better if we could do it safely.
Good stuff! Great editing and info. Love the two-fer-one and the description of your grandads homelite: heavy as f... 🤣🤣 Definitely some sketchy ones in there, awesome! 👍👍🪓
When i started using a saw in 1998 i printed off many pages of info that were on the Husqvarna website back then. It explained a lot of the basics. I also bought some books on tree techniques. I haven't done a lot of cutting but fortunately no accidents. I had the luxury of being able to take my time with the process and i would study the situation extensively, often many days before the work began.
Nice selection of examples here Kevin. Those dead ash will teach you lessons! 😉 I've had Game of Logging training and it is a very good introduction to felling. Over time you can learn from your experiences, and CZcams, but foundational knowledge is important. For the most part I use an open face cut (about 70°) and either a bore cut or conventional back cut depending on the tree diameter and myriad other factors. I make the top cut first. If my gunning sights suggest I'm off as the top cut progresses I'll stop cutting and go up a bit higher on the tree and alter the direction with a new top cut. Then I make the bottom cut... the errant top cut will go out with the wedge. By doing the top cut first you can watch the final part of the bottom cut by looking through the top cut kerf. That let's you see when to stop--this of course benefits from both cuts being level where they intersect. The open face cut keeps the hinge intact until the tree is almost on the ground which can be very useful in tight quarters. I palm a wedge on most trees whether I need it to push the tree over with wedges or not. This is done to maintain control. There is nothing more annoying than a pinched bar and no wedge in the kerf! Swapping bars and chains on the power head, or using another saw, are the remedies for that. Here in the NE I haven't found the need for a Humboldt face cut. I've cut trees up to about 40" DBH with a 25" bar on my MS461 with an open face cut, plunge cut, wedges and trigger. In theory you can fell a tree up to 2 1/2 times the bar length by cutting from both sides and taking the middle out via the face cut. That said, if there were any around I could fell 5' trees with the 25" bar on my MS461 or MS661. There is a Game of Logging channel but it hasn't had new content in a while. The Husqvarna USA channel has a very detailed video titled "How to Safely Fell or Cut Down a Tree Using a Chainsaw." Bjarne Butler's channel shows a professional tree feller in the PNW dealing with myriad challenges... Lots to learn from him... and Buckin' of course! Me, I never stop learning as new felling and storm damage challenges come along regularly. I did finally reach the point where I can reliably and repeatedly get great results hand filing my chains. The Ironhorse channel has a video titled "How a chip is formed! East coast sharpening tips!" Prior to seeing that video my sharpening wasn't consistently great... it was good but not great. Anyhow, I hope these comments add to Kevin's observations in a useful way.
Yeah, I’m well familiar now with this info now. Thankfully it is all online now. Bjarne and Buckin are great. But the British Colombia training vids, while visually a bit dated, really helped me feel more confident cutting. I can’t with the Husky vids. And the sthil series is too corny lol. If you fall trees like the Euros with all their safety recommendations and starts and stops and chain breaks and calipers and shaving the tree square, you’d never get anything done. As for the angled cut first, I do it sometimes on low stumps. The downside to it is that you have to cut a whole new kerf if your aim is off, whereas you can just tickle the trigger if you go flat first, but like I said whatever feels natural is what I’d recommend.
@@KevinsDisobedience Those British Colombia videos are good ones. RE Stihl... corny and some are lacking... never looking up, walking in front of fully cut up trees... not good examples! I've noticed that video quality on CZcams has improved so much over the years that old ones, even ones that had excellent content, are discounted to some degree because they look old. This while newer ones that look good, but are of dubious value and may actually provide dangerous information, are seen as good. Funny how that works!
I agree. While the BC fallers videos look like they were shot in the 90s, they have good information and have filmed real loggers in a real world setting; whereas the sthil and Husky videos are clearly perfect situations with less than competent individuals. Bjarne is doing trainees a huge favor by showing rather than telling. I’ll look into the game of logging stuff. Haven’t seen that.
@@KevinsDisobedience Overall, I think it's good that there is a variety of video types available even if they all don't work for me. That way the needs of folks with various learning styles can be met. With that in mind I've recommended different videos to different people based on my sense of their style. Me... in general reading, watching, doing, and taking training all work. Finding the patterns across seemingly disparate processes makes the learning curve flatter too... I only need to learn the "new" stuff. Regarding Game of Logging (or arborist) training: You may have progressed past the GOL1 training on your own... but there are likely things the trainer could expand upon. I don't know who works your area.. Bill Lindloff is the trainer in my area. I started using chainsaws when I was a kid in the 70s. There was no CZcams, I had no trainer, and certainly no PPE. I had no idea what I was doing nor how dangerous some of the things were that I did! The formal training came much later in my life and I did a lot to supplement that training. I was ready when the EAB reared its head!
oh man, I certainly did some seriously dangerous things with a chainsaw when I was a kid. No ppe to speak of, not even hearing protection. And almost no idea how to fell a tree. We would take a notch out of large trees, but it wasn’t clean, and most of the time is was half the size of the tree. And farmers here slanted their back cut, so that’s what I did. But we also slash cut 8” trees or smaller or just used bypass cuts (without understanding by pass cuts lol). And I had no notion of compression and tension, just intuition. ‘When in doubt, rev it out” was our motto.
It is nice we have CZcams to use as a resource, I am a novice as well, you did a good job explaining and filming wish I had access to this type of content when I was a kid, just this video alone would of saved some bars chains and less soiled pants, and when I finally figured out how to sharpen a chain (thanks Buckin’) I do keep old jacked up chains and bent bars around to remind me and try to help others with sharing the info I’ve gathered on this mission so far keep it up 👍🏻
Thanks for taking the time to say this. Sometimes, I’m like why even bother making these videos, but it feels wrong to consume and not give back. If I had even half this info when I was younger, I would have been 10x better off. Glad you enjoyed. Sorry it’s not terribly entertaining. I errored on the side of more info and longer cuts.
Sketchy and alone! I've started carrying a tourniquet and blowout kit with me. They wouldn't find my body for a long time. Even if I could call 911 it would take 45 minutes to hit the driveway, and then they gotta track down the screaming 😮
Have you considered to get formal training? I germany basic safety technique trainging is mandatory when you fell trees in public woods. I did this and learned more in two days than two years watching non professionals. I like your attitude of being interested in the world. Learning and experiance as a goal. Very inspiring.
You Tube has been silencing content creators. I totally thought you went dark. I haven't seen a video notification in quite awhile. Finally some shorts came through. I just tried to comment on one, and it didn't go through.
@@KevinsDisobedience I've been hearing screams from a lot of creators, alogorithym BS. They're trying to slowly force creators into paying a fee to "boost" traffic . Like you'd pay Facebook Marketplace.
Those are nasty snags. The chainsaw work looks perfect to me. The only thing I would say is snags actually make for habitat and food for a wide array of animals and are part of a healthy forest. If its not a danger to people you don't need to cut it down.
Yeah, I take that into consideration. It’s a good place for me to learn, but I leave them when I see signs of life there. But I need firewood, and I need practice. Makes sense to me to start on snags.
It amazes me how much I have learned from watching tutorials on youtube. From how to split firewood, to how to grow veges in a raised bed, to troubleshoot problems with chainsaws, and so on. When it comes to chainsaw work, I, for one, am still learning how to operate mine. I use my chainsaw a few times a year if that, but it is an essential tool if you live in the country.
Life is a great teacher. It can reward you or humble you in the same lesson.
Thank you for this video. This is one area that I need to educate myself on when felling trees. Stay blessed and safe out there!
Right, same here. That’s why I made this. There’s a lot of guys like you and me who don’t run saws all year round, but when we need to it would be better if we could do it safely.
@@KevinsDisobedience agreed! Thank you for sharing your knowledge with the rest of us. Much appreciated.
Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family. Stay blessed sir!
Good stuff! Great editing and info. Love the two-fer-one and the description of your grandads homelite: heavy as f... 🤣🤣
Definitely some sketchy ones in there, awesome! 👍👍🪓
When i started using a saw in 1998 i printed off many pages of info that were on the Husqvarna website back then. It explained a lot of the basics. I also bought some books on tree techniques. I haven't done a lot of cutting but fortunately no accidents. I had the luxury of being able to take my time with the process and i would study the situation extensively, often many days before the work began.
Lot of good info out there now for anyone who wants it.
Nice selection of examples here Kevin. Those dead ash will teach you lessons! 😉
I've had Game of Logging training and it is a very good introduction to felling. Over time you can learn from your experiences, and CZcams, but foundational knowledge is important.
For the most part I use an open face cut (about 70°) and either a bore cut or conventional back cut depending on the tree diameter and myriad other factors. I make the top cut first. If my gunning sights suggest I'm off as the top cut progresses I'll stop cutting and go up a bit higher on the tree and alter the direction with a new top cut. Then I make the bottom cut... the errant top cut will go out with the wedge. By doing the top cut first you can watch the final part of the bottom cut by looking through the top cut kerf. That let's you see when to stop--this of course benefits from both cuts being level where they intersect. The open face cut keeps the hinge intact until the tree is almost on the ground which can be very useful in tight quarters.
I palm a wedge on most trees whether I need it to push the tree over with wedges or not. This is done to maintain control. There is nothing more annoying than a pinched bar and no wedge in the kerf! Swapping bars and chains on the power head, or using another saw, are the remedies for that.
Here in the NE I haven't found the need for a Humboldt face cut. I've cut trees up to about 40" DBH with a 25" bar on my MS461 with an open face cut, plunge cut, wedges and trigger. In theory you can fell a tree up to 2 1/2 times the bar length by cutting from both sides and taking the middle out via the face cut. That said, if there were any around I could fell 5' trees with the 25" bar on my MS461 or MS661.
There is a Game of Logging channel but it hasn't had new content in a while. The Husqvarna USA channel has a very detailed video titled "How to Safely Fell or Cut Down a Tree Using a Chainsaw." Bjarne Butler's channel shows a professional tree feller in the PNW dealing with myriad challenges... Lots to learn from him... and Buckin' of course!
Me, I never stop learning as new felling and storm damage challenges come along regularly. I did finally reach the point where I can reliably and repeatedly get great results hand filing my chains. The Ironhorse channel has a video titled "How a chip is formed! East coast sharpening tips!" Prior to seeing that video my sharpening wasn't consistently great... it was good but not great.
Anyhow, I hope these comments add to Kevin's observations in a useful way.
Yeah, I’m well familiar now with this info now. Thankfully it is all online now. Bjarne and Buckin are great. But the British Colombia training vids, while visually a bit dated, really helped me feel more confident cutting. I can’t with the Husky vids. And the sthil series is too corny lol. If you fall trees like the Euros with all their safety recommendations and starts and stops and chain breaks and calipers and shaving the tree square, you’d never get anything done. As for the angled cut first, I do it sometimes on low stumps. The downside to it is that you have to cut a whole new kerf if your aim is off, whereas you can just tickle the trigger if you go flat first, but like I said whatever feels natural is what I’d recommend.
@@KevinsDisobedience Those British Colombia videos are good ones. RE Stihl... corny and some are lacking... never looking up, walking in front of fully cut up trees... not good examples! I've noticed that video quality on CZcams has improved so much over the years that old ones, even ones that had excellent content, are discounted to some degree because they look old. This while newer ones that look good, but are of dubious value and may actually provide dangerous information, are seen as good. Funny how that works!
I agree. While the BC fallers videos look like they were shot in the 90s, they have good information and have filmed real loggers in a real world setting; whereas the sthil and Husky videos are clearly perfect situations with less than competent individuals. Bjarne is doing trainees a huge favor by showing rather than telling. I’ll look into the game of logging stuff. Haven’t seen that.
@@KevinsDisobedience Overall, I think it's good that there is a variety of video types available even if they all don't work for me. That way the needs of folks with various learning styles can be met. With that in mind I've recommended different videos to different people based on my sense of their style. Me... in general reading, watching, doing, and taking training all work. Finding the patterns across seemingly disparate processes makes the learning curve flatter too... I only need to learn the "new" stuff.
Regarding Game of Logging (or arborist) training: You may have progressed past the GOL1 training on your own... but there are likely things the trainer could expand upon. I don't know who works your area.. Bill Lindloff is the trainer in my area. I started using chainsaws when I was a kid in the 70s. There was no CZcams, I had no trainer, and certainly no PPE. I had no idea what I was doing nor how dangerous some of the things were that I did! The formal training came much later in my life and I did a lot to supplement that training. I was ready when the EAB reared its head!
oh man, I certainly did some seriously dangerous things with a chainsaw when I was a kid. No ppe to speak of, not even hearing protection. And almost no idea how to fell a tree. We would take a notch out of large trees, but it wasn’t clean, and most of the time is was half the size of the tree. And farmers here slanted their back cut, so that’s what I did. But we also slash cut 8” trees or smaller or just used bypass cuts (without understanding by pass cuts lol). And I had no notion of compression and tension, just intuition. ‘When in doubt, rev it out” was our motto.
It is nice we have CZcams to use as a resource, I am a novice as well, you did a good job explaining and filming wish I had access to this type of content when I was a kid, just this video alone would of saved some bars chains and less soiled pants, and when I finally figured out how to sharpen a chain (thanks Buckin’) I do keep old jacked up chains and bent bars around to remind me and try to help others with sharing the info I’ve gathered on this mission so far keep it up 👍🏻
Thanks for taking the time to say this. Sometimes, I’m like why even bother making these videos, but it feels wrong to consume and not give back. If I had even half this info when I was younger, I would have been 10x better off. Glad you enjoyed. Sorry it’s not terribly entertaining. I errored on the side of more info and longer cuts.
Interesting and informative video Kevin! Some scary ones in there. Great editing.
Thanks Brett.
Sketchy and alone! I've started carrying a tourniquet and blowout kit with me. They wouldn't find my body for a long time. Even if I could call 911 it would take 45 minutes to hit the driveway, and then they gotta track down the screaming 😮
Yeah, same. Have a full med kit in my pack.
Have you considered to get formal training?
I germany basic safety technique trainging is mandatory when you fell trees in public woods.
I did this and learned more in two days than two years watching non professionals.
I like your attitude of being interested in the world. Learning and experiance as a goal. Very inspiring.
Yeah, I’d enjoy that. Might do it someday.
Good info (as far as I know, ha ha). I think I would have the last two for the beetles!
Yeah, I’ve wanted them down for awhile. Unfortunately those damn beetles only lay eggs in living ones, kill the tree, and then move on.
@@KevinsDisobedience Yes, damn those things, but I was thinking of the powderpost and other wood-decomposing beetles.
You Tube has been silencing content creators. I totally thought you went dark. I haven't seen a video notification in quite awhile. Finally some shorts came through. I just tried to comment on one, and it didn't go through.
Weird, they definitely seemed to stop this video. It did 2k+ views the first day and then nothing since hmm 🤔🤷♂️
@@KevinsDisobedience I've been hearing screams from a lot of creators, alogorithym BS. They're trying to slowly force creators into paying a fee to "boost" traffic . Like you'd pay Facebook Marketplace.
Those are nasty snags.
The chainsaw work looks perfect to me.
The only thing I would say is snags actually make for habitat and food for a wide array of animals and are part of a healthy forest. If its not a danger to people you don't need to cut it down.
Yeah, I take that into consideration. It’s a good place for me to learn, but I leave them when I see signs of life there. But I need firewood, and I need practice. Makes sense to me to start on snags.
What size full wrap handle is that?
It’s a Farmatech full wrap. Not sure of the size
@@KevinsDisobedience I’ve thought about trying to put on one off of a 460 and see if it works
First!
You got lucky🧐🤣
Hahaha