Native Americans React to Elizabeth Warren’s DNA Test: Stop Making Native People “Political Fodder”
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- democracynow.org - Native Americans across the country are criticizing Senator Elizabeth Warren’s decision to use a DNA test to assert her Native American heritage. Chuck Hoskin Jr., secretary of state of the Cherokee Nation, said, “Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternity to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation. Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong.” We host a roundtable discussion of Native American activists and journalists to respond to Warren’s DNA test and the subsequent media coverage. In Fargo, North Dakota, we speak with Tara Houska, national campaign director for Honor the Earth and an Ojibwe lawyer. In Anchorage, Alaska, we speak with Mark Trahant, editor of Indian Country Today. He’s a member of the Shoshone-Bannock Tribes. In Seattle, Washington, we speak with Gyasi Ross, a member of the Blackfeet Nation and host of the podcast Breakdances With Wolves.
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The issue is: She took someone's affirmative action slot that she was not entitled to.
The college did that not her.
Omg I wish I had a dollar for every time I heard somebody say, “I’m part Cherokee.” 😂😂 Ts cracks me up. Lol
I'd be damn dead broke if I said it in front of you, because I have. I found it out it wasn't that, but something else, and I found out I have ancestry from India, so the Indian and Native ancestries came from the same person. I found this out after moving to India two years prior to the DNA test.
@@reginaldriggins3270 I would be rich if I got a dollar for everytime someone told me they have "blackfoot" in them. I hear this all the time just like how Cherokee is claimed. I'm sorry to tell you there is no such tribe as "blackfoot". Only Siksika (Blackfeet Nation) in Montana and Alberta Canada.
its become quite a trend
@@Uprising771 It's been an on going trend since the 1800s.
Why
I love the story of her great, great, great grandmother having native in her family...as she shows us pictures of people obviously 100% WHITE.
haha but we can't really tell their eye color from this.
@@abbad707 yea
😂😂
So just cause someone 'looks' white, it must mean they're white?
Wow not racist to mix race people who look white.
Right, if Warren is Native American, then I'm Cleopatra.
Maybe Warren is Cleopatra--Queen of Denial.
And I'm white since I am 20% white! 😊😊
Elizabeth war could be like 20% native American and rest European 75% Irish, Scottish, German, french
Elizabeth Warren got her tribal name. Chief Spreading Bull.
hahahahaha!!!! Good one!
Chris Dunham = TrumpTurd!
Dammit, I disagree, but that's making me laugh. A lot.
😂😂😂😂😂
😆😅👍🏽
I have no issue with Warrens story and having Native American “ancestry” or not if it’s true or not that’s not the issue. The issue is Warren is labeled the first woman of color professor at HARVARD! Why? Because in her late 30’s and 40’s, all of a sudden from checking the Caucasian “White” box....to checking “Native American”.....why?...this is what I want to know. Why did she claim Native America ethnicity for the first time in her life when applying for a job at Harvard and again off and on when applying for other high position job opportunities? It’s my understanding that one can not have interchangeable ethnicity. I believe Warren used and built her professional career on the back of minority benefits. This is wrong and is called FRAUD.
Erin.....this is my issue too. Why not identify as Native American from the start? First professor, woman of color @ Harvard. What a JOKE!
SURFER X BLOOD you say “we” like you and I are both liars too. I’m proud of my heritage as I’m proud of my kids, I don’t need to lie to get a job or go to school or get ahead. All I have to do is work harder than everyone else and understand it takes TIME to get to the finish line. I think we all need to distinguish that what people in the past have done should not reflect on the people who love now. My family didn’t come to North America until after prohibition, my family being white had nothing to do with American slavery, Native American genocide in fact my family heritage includes those of almost every race brutalized throughout time. I don’t hate nor care more because of it. I don’t get why anyone does, you can’t change the past so why live like white people were the only ones who did or still do all of the bad shit in the world. Every group in the world has a bad guy, but every group in the world has more good than bad by leaps and bounds. So your all white people are liars is kind of sad if that’s what you really think. Your education on these topics are either skewed or flat out biased to a fault. I suggest you should go look into things yourself vs believing whomever you listen to to guide your beliefs. I know it’s easier to have someone tell you what to believe or learn but doing something yourself is worth having your own opinions and thoughts. Having someone else think for you is no different than being brain dead.
One student on the Harvard law staff described her as a "woman of color" in relation to her Native ancestry in an article about intersectionality (which was a REACH but we've all been there when you're in school trying to make it work), but Harvard did not cite her as such and she doesn't identify this way.
You looks sweet
erin s, if you have no issue, what matters how she checked her ethnicity? she can claim both white and native american. if claiming native american ethnicity gives her better chance of being accepted at harvard, good for her. she has the right to claim her heritage at any time, at any point in time. it only matters that she actually has native american ancestry within her and she has proven that she does
He said "Maury Povich like" 😆 "You are NOT an Indian!"
☠️☠️☠️
Native Americans are the real deal citizens of our land !!!!! And I'm proud of that !!
by Elizabeth Warren 2016
"I don’t know how anyone could watch the news and not be horrified by what’s happening at Standing Rock Reservation in North Dakota."
She did a whole speech in support of NODAPL
Thank you, Dick Macgurn for bringing some factual material into this discussion.
That was months after the poor souls had been beaten down by the police and mercenaries.
She didn't even go there. Tulsi Gabbard went there.
Where was Warren?
By the way, she was a Republican, voted for Reagan, and only became a Democrat in 1996. She is a phoney!
DITTO!!!!!
You clearly didn't bother to follow DAPL protests in real time but now you choose to spam in 3-4 places with flat out misleading nonsense. Warren didn't do a "speech", ever on DAPL. She did NOTHING during the actual period of protests when protesters were shot at, bitten up by dogs, unfairly arrested and detained, or water cannoned in freezing temperatures. AFTER a team of veterans wen't down to ND to do civil disobedience (which was joined by Rep. Tulsi Gabbard) , raising the spectacle of a Veterans vs Police drama all over national media, Obama finally caved in and issued a stay on the easement of drilling under Missouri river.
AFTER that announcement, which was the official green signal from her party's establishment, Warren issued the statement you are quoting from.
46 idiots have even chosen to upvote this. And this happened only two years ago. FUCK.
desimurgi
You speak the truth. Unfortunately we are dealing with maggots who don't care about truth. To then it's all tribal.
Warren is a one-trick pony. She just voted for Trump's $100 billion increase in military spending. She is a hawk on foreign policy.
The gentleman at the and was speaking straight facts. I like how he broke it down.
My dna test said I'm 6%-7% Jewish. It also said I have a lot of 4th, 5th, 6th cousins who are 100% Jewish
Benedict happens to be Jewish according to my dad's family's US and English genealogy. My dad's family forgot the traditions, and that's why I never had a bar mitzvah. William Andrew Benedict the first is my main ancestor from England.
this is just about the stupidest political issue i can imagine.
Thank the left for that......unless it boomerangs back at them haha
Of course it's stupid, the trump clown thought it up.
@Herman Lipshitz I can understand why she did it. I definitely understand why I native would be offended. Great! Somebody calls you a name and you get a DNA test but what does that do for all the native suffering. Despite being the little baby name calling from the Oval Office, For Heaven's Sake, wouldn't it be great to follow up that test with actually doing something that would greatly help tribes! Do something Elizabeth! Do something whichever party cares! And for God sake, South Dakota Republicans, the very least you could do is support the United States beliefs in Freedom and stop figuring out tricks to keep Native Americans from voting in your state!
It is stupid, I can't believe it is in the news at all.
@@katrand5357 I guess you missed the part where trump said he would pay a million dollars and she told him to which native american group to send the check to.
I fail to see how taking a DNA test is wrong. Nobody is claiming tribal affiliation, just blood relation.
@chosenone4447 Funny that it didn't matter to those discriminating as they said 1 drop of blood is enough to make intermarriage a crime but to some people 8 generations old lineage isn't enough to claim their was discrimination? Unfortunately the people deciding to discriminate are very generous is deciding how much blood is too much, while people criticizing the victims of discrimination have some other arbitrary number to rely on. How much blood relation is required to be able to say there was discrimination? That's always up to the discriminating parties, not the victims or the people hating on the victims for being victims.
I think they are angry with her as Europeans came over, invaded and mixed with them, which obviously was not voluntary. Hence, they are upset over her revelation of having someone native in her remote ancestry that tens of millions of people or more might have.
Dick Macgurn they’re inaccurate. Dna test can not tell you if a African came here on a Slave ship, or was from descendants that voyaged here long before.
Elizabeth Warren is making a mockery of all Native American people she needs to step down from office very disrespectful what this lady has done
tony fat STFU YOU F**KING LOSER!!!!!
I thought I was 100% European but never knew my biological father. I did two different test and both companies came back saying I was 90% European, 3% African, and 7% Native American. This inspired me to seek out more information think about where my ancestors came from and how they all mixed together. This is truly fascinating stuff.
You only need 2% African and you get the N word pass just so you know
Seems like when it became fashionable, EVERY BODY is "part Indian" pleez.
I don't agree with this backlash against Warren a lot of people have Native American blood in their lineage.
@Matthew Rider you hit it on the head excellent point
SHE FALSIFIED COLLEGE APPLICATIONS PAPERS YOU IDIOT! THAT'S what this backlash is all about.
Ms. Houska, IT'S A JOKE, what Sen. Graham said about casinos and $1 million is a JOKE. LIGHTEN UP, it's ok for people to kid around.
miamistorm can’t agree with you there. Lindsay Graham’s comments were asinine, offensive and smacked of white privilege. Too bad there’s so much blindness in this country. And blood quantum is not the determining factor of one’s cultural truth.
Yes it was indeed a Joke. Some folks don't understand the elements that make up humor...tongue-in-cheek, irony, sarcasm, dry wit, etc....so they become unable to understand the concept. I have a feeling these three understand that it was a joke but choose to twist it around for their own purposes.
Sarcasm is actually on the violence scale. I used to be a sarcastic bastard, until I realized that. Kindness is a practice. I do understand that the good senator was joking around. But so was the Donald when he joked about his celebrity privilege. You know when comedians stretch it, we’re paying them to do that. Do we really want our elected officials to be clowns and court jesters. Ah well, standards in this country are nothing to brag about these days.
@@MatthewSweigart Some people are sarcastic without being a bastard. Politicians have joked around since their existence.We have many important issues to consider from which this foolishness is taking time and discussion. If people could see jokes as jokes, we could get on with the work at hand.
This goes to show you - "you can't joke, OR speak the truth" one will always be judged or misunderstood.
Anybody with an ounce of common sense can tell the difference between someone with a loose connection to some distant heritage and someone who lives it in the present. An Elizabeth Warren who is proud to claim that little piece of family history need not take anything away from Native people to whom that history is a lived reality.
Bravo Gyasi Ross! Bravo to the entire panel. I am so thoroughly impressed with all 3 of you. You all are factual, logical and much more respectable than any politician and 100 times moreso than any media personality. They should all take notes.
Everybody has a right to his full heritage and history, anything else is just racist and have no right to argue that. Having legal rights is offcourse a different thing.
i did love that show where the racist klan member did it and found out he was part black.
what we all know is the more diverse our DNA is the healthier we are.
its also one of the best pick lines....
got any welsh in you ? want some ? ;)
no such thing as "white people" anyone using that has no understanding of heritage or genetics,and is simply using it to segregate themselves or others and is racist.
there are no blacks and there are no whites,there are pinky brown and brown,just shades of those colours.....oh and since sunbeds,orange.
claiming a skin colour is pure fakery and not in reality.
his/her/their
FRAUDcahontas got exposed. Good for her! Hahaha
@ Cate someone
for a start its not an opinion,race has always been a word used to segregate people of the same species so a distance from each other can be set to inact some sort of atrocity or other.
the actual words used should be those who do,and those who get it done to.
probably down to where i grew up,we grew up in a melting pot so racist crap didnt get through to us.
still doesnt gel for me at this age,hating for skin colour or birth place will always be an alien concept......thankfully
You know, I like how my mom explained this all to me growing up.
Her hobby is genealogy. She has poured through centuries of church and public records, and with the computer age, she got extra deep in the records. She found damn near everything in that family tree, Irish, French-Canadian, Native American, German, Scottish, and all manner of people, smiths, farmers, soldiers, boxers, doctors, terrorists, no nobles, but some regicides...
Anyway, one day so she's telling me all of this about our family history. I decide to ask her, what does that make us?
She says, people.
Now, I could end the story there, but I didn't end my questions there. I pressed on.
"So, like, some kind of Irish American, or Native or something?"
"No, not really."
"Well, why not?"
"One, because that don't really matter anyway. Two, cause anyone looking at you caring about those things will see a white boy, maybe from the South. Three, it ain't about what and who they were, it's about what and who you are, and that's from what you do, mostly."
Thanks for posting that.
Sounds like wisdom to me.
Exactly! Brilliantly said!
One really good thing here is native ppl are being heard. Huge step.
I live here in SC, and have a friend who is a full blood and member of A.I.M., and he thought what Lindsey Graham said was hilarious!!!
No such thing as a full blood
I am 5/16th indian, my mom was sent to Indian school, and as a kid I had a blue card (for hunting and fishing rights as a tribal member).
The idea that I could be anything but part Indian is absurd. If I were 1/1000 part Chinese or African, that would be part of my heritage too. Glen
I’m applying to every Ivy League as native and if I get denied I will sue because it’s the Warren Rule
Truth is Singular most of us from Puerto Rico could ask for that privilege. As is common to find from 10 to 20% Taino Native American DNA . This is high considering Taínos are extinct.
Maria Rodriguez yes but PR’s can get into schools on minority status. I can’t believe that Elizabeth Warren still after knowing the facts has the audacity to still claim nothing she has no cultural ties too. That was my point. I am Caucasian ..... my husband is Hawaiian. We never look at each other by skin color..... more or less like ohhhh that’s a mainlander thing or that’s islander thing..... it’s a cultural thing. But being Native American is small numbers and they have suffered enough and I am very disappointed that she still makes claim. It’s soooo disrespectful. I get that most PR’s have the 10-20%, but First Nation actually live the cultural of their background. Being living on reservations, the folk art and crafts, language and dance and most importantly Pow Wows. Puerto rica a background can be indigenous but there aren’t really any cultural ties to that in everyday living like First Nation.. Elizabeth Warren got into Harvard claiming to something she has no ties too what so ever.
What IS this shit? She did NOT 'get in' to college because she ticked a bloody box in good faith ffksake. Moron!
Speaking as a Native who, despite 3/4 blood quantum cannot register as a full fledged member of the tribe myself, she could have stated her ancestry proudly without seeking merit. The fucked up peculiarities and rules of the colonialist countries of North America mean you can be 100% Ongwehonwe Blood, yet not be a member of any Recognized Tribe or even affiliated. What she did was directly profit from something she never had claim to, while not only not helping a single Actual Native her entire career, but taking career opportunities from Tribal Members the affirmative actions were meant for.
Warren never claimed to be a tribal member. In fact, in the video she specifically says that the DNA test CANNOT be used to indicate tribal membership. She grew up being told by her family that she had some native American ancestors and the DNA test proved that was correct.
From the 1800s till now,how did natives become so pale😐
www.pinterest.com/pin/566186984386397739/
I know a lot of Natives in SD and there are a lot of whites that marry into the tribes and actually embrace the culture, stay and have families. So what's the big deal about that? Most whites don't really have their own culture other than being mixed within other whites.
@@summertea545 Whites have Western culture, which is imitated the world over. We have the British Empire to thank...or not thank...for that.
Because they are race traitors
Sugar Cane, Antoine was just asking a simple question based on what he's noticed. His question was innocent and nothing bad intended. PLEASE refrain from adding to the already overly sensitive, easily offended mentality of today's times.
“The ultimate goal of a dna test is to prove native americans are immigrants like the rest”
But she’s not saying that
Shes also not trying to join a tribe
though they are indeed immigrants like the rest of us, just a much farther back immigration.
I have Native American from my great grandmother. It is what it is.
Ann Anderson You would be either 25% Native American or 10% Native American. Or in between those numbers!
Same
Let me guess,, Cherokee princess?? I heard that story Thousands of times!!
I got it from my great great grandfather so I'm 15%
Damani Dorsey you mean your great great grandfathers mother because women do not get dna from the males we only have XX chromosomes not XY
Cree stands loud and proud on the prairies..ask Canada !
I'm cree and live in Canada
@@KiddroArt me too
Yup
Onion Lake Cree Nation right here!
I disagree with his statement that DNA tests are trying to make Native Americans as people who are immigrants, I have trace DNA of Yakut which is Native people of Siberia. I don’t see the Yakut as immigrants of Siberia.
I don't think she was claiming being a member of a nation...🤔
she wasnt and never did,that crap came from the racist quarter,who didnt think attacking her for it was racist.
She claimed her lineage was Cherokee, but did not claim to be a nation member.
She was listed as a minority and Harvard claimed her to be their first minority hire.
chigglywiggly She did mention something about an ancestor being Cherokee, but that’s beside the point. I’m French on my mother’s side, but she’s French-Canadian not Parisian French. A dna test wouldn’t be able to tell which.
chigglywiggly- And just where do you figure those French-Canadians came from, chigglywiggly? Sweden?!
But chief spreading bull has high cheek bones ! that alone is enough proof.
My love and respect to the Native People but a person cannot change where they come from. Things are the way they are!! Elizabeth is what she is, it is her story, it is her life and she has every right to tell it the way she sees it!!! She never meant any disrespect, on the contrary!!! Some of us embrace our past, while others are ashamed of it!! DO NOT try to make more out of it than it is!!!
😆 🤣 😂 😹
She played it for college funding & a political edge. My children are 60% native & don’t qualify for any funding because they don’t have a tribal membership number.
If I announced that my DNA test showed that I am 3.1% French, would everybody start screaming at me that that does not entitle me to all the benefits of French citizenship? Would the consensus be that since I am not a French citizen no matter what I say (even though I never said that I am), I should not be allowed to say the word "French" out loud? SMH
The French are not a people who have been abused manipulated and nearly erased.
Grandma NeoNazi, more like it
Exactly
If the French were an oppressed group and you identified yourself as French based on 3% (and therefore potentially got special treatment) and claimed your mother was discriminated against because she was French, then you'd deserve criticism.
@@chillwill120 Oh? And if she was discriminated against because of that single drop that's ok? So the African Americans who were subject to the 1 drop rule should just shut up?
So what I take from this is that if you want to be proud to have German or Irish or Scandinavian or any other small amount of heritage, be prepared to be attacked by those groups as not pure enough. Native Americans are acting pretty flipping racist here. I say this knowing that my natural father was 1/4 Native American. I have never tried to be part of that culture because I wasn't raised in it. Despite that, should I pretend that I do not have any Native American blood in me? Am I not allowed to state that? People need to take a collective chill pill and stop judging other people for who they wish to identify with. Warren never touted this - she was the subject of a smear attack during a campaign - twice - by her opponent and then as a punching bag for Trump. She has a right to show her facts.
Nah. I think you're missing the point. It's hard to generalize because every nation has its own rules and process of how you become kin. But in general 😂 blood ties are less important than shared experience and culture. You could have zero indigenous DNA and be adopted by a band/tribe. That would make you and your descendants members.
Having said that one of the ideals of "walking the red road" is to honour all of your ancestors. So it's complex. You may be only a small percentage Native American but that doesn't prevent you from learning more about where your ancestors came from or how they shaped the way that you were brought up. It's important to gather all of the stories from your Elders and learn from them no matter where they came from because those stories are part of who you are today. Maybe you have a natural affiliation with a tribe/band. Maybe you belong with them. ✌ from Canada
@@rosestewart1606 naaa you missed the point.
by Elizabeth Warren 2016
"I don’t know how anyone could watch the news and not be horrified by what’s happening at Standing Rock Reservation in North Dakota."
She did a whole speech in support of NODAPL
Natives have been trying to bring this to our attention for some time and this was a perfect example of it happening on the world stage is all...his grievance was with her timing and theatrics (he mentioned Native American Women are running for Congress and feels stumping for them now would be a better use of her time). Engaging in the mud with Trump to gain political points isn't appreciated and he's not entirely wrong whether she meant to do it or not we should respect Native views on this issue is all...
For god sake she has 0.09% native dna in her she is more white then the average european american... You people are just defending her because she is a democrat. as an outsider all I see in american politic is tribalism at its finest from both side...
Natives are immigrants to this land but are the original Americans! The 1st of their and our kind on this land! Protectors of this land. Nothing but respect for their history
i'm a german by heritage, but i follow the red road, white indian kinda thing, been that way a long time, i don't think warren was up to anything, let it go
Anyone else think the "Indian Country" editor looked super white?
El Bowering, the guy he's talking about is an editor for a magazine called "Indian Country Today".
YES
What are you talking about? I never refered to anyone as "Indian".
So disappointed in the direction this story took.
So? This story isn't about you, Lori Anne.
@@geetee2392 so? Her disappointment wasnt about you, gee tee. Nor is the direction this story took about anyone in this comment section. now my disappointment is directly about you and your utterly dickish, backwards logic.
Ezra Fickov
Oh, well, I feel so put in my place, Ezzy. How could I best convey to you my despair at being so utterly shamed? How about my original reply wasn't to you so how about you go fuck yourself? Yup, I believe that was eloquent enough.
I think it is very important that we speak to the Native American community concerning people who claim native American ancestry. Elizabeth Warren should be ashamed of herself!!
Since Native Americans are descendants of Siberians. It is probable that Elizabeth Warren could be part Finnish. The Finns have some Siberian ancestors.
Sounds like a typical American story. Senator Warren has been a leader for decades. Can't we get together on this one? We have a country filled with states, commonwealths, territories, and native American nations.
van a dulles she’s been a law professor and a politician. She’s has never been a leader. She’s a white woman who claimed something she had no right to.
Pocahontas (warren) is a fraud fake and evil...she needs to be locked up!!!!
These Pretendians need their own DNA tested
Are u an ANGRY EUROPEAN AMERICAN. WHO HATES THE FACT YOU LIVE ON OUR LAND??
LOL
ITS OK SWEETIE. ID HATE US TOO. 😘
joeydangls, we're going to require a gender test run on you. your "claimed gender identity" dosen't match records or hormonal discharges.
it's no wonder your mom named you joey's dingle-berries.
DNA tests are akin to genetic horoscope since it's based on shoddy foundation. But if you want to see real native Americans go to boliva where the president is an actual native American.
sadly this is somewhat true about these people. im native and have relatives on the reservation. majority of them dont look like this. not to say they arent native but assuming they are, it is very little. black ppl are doing the same thing. not that i hate these people but its destroying the identity of native americans.
The 1828 Dictionary says
Black is a misnomer as well as African-American!
American
AMER’ICAN, adjective Pertaining to America.
AMER'ICAN, noun A native of America; originally applied to the aborigines , or copper-colored races, found here by the Europeans; but now applied to the descen
dants of Europeans born in America.
The name American must always exalt the pride of patriotism. - Washington
Around 3 yrs old I met my great great great grandfather in the 70s . When he saw me he called me a greeneyed Gringo and everyone laughed at me so I started crying . Then he yelled "shut up !! Everyone that has a bottle in their hand is Gringo"!! Then he shoved my uncle and took his bottle and walked off...
Awwww. That's a funny story. He didn't want you to feel bad.
how do you find out what percentage cause my great grand father was indian and my great grand mother was full cherokee and i want to know my heritage. as well being a moorish national . how do check out how to declare my heritage.
Where are all the videos of Cherokee Nation talking about trump's comments
Timothy Johnson people rail on trump 24/7. Where have you been? Warren claimed something she had no right to. Trump called her out on it. We should be thanking Trump for exposing the fraud.
try reading the question again
They are all white Republicans, so they won't say shit about Trump.
Or is the question, why haven't more Native Americans been asked?
newrepublic.com/minutes/151118/trump-cant-stop-insulting-native-americans
www.axios.com/native-american-leaders-say-trumps-pocahontas-remark-was-slur-1513307204-a5c1b4ca-9c02-4005-a3e4-97c536e55ea0.html
www.cbsnews.com/news/native-americans-respond-to-trumps-pocahontas-comment/
" Cherokee Nation "
Tara H. my son's girl just took a DNA test that revealed that she was part Native American, rather than Mexican. We were all surprised, and never felt she was attempting to ignore beliefs of lineage from the view of a Native American. When listening to Ms. Warren, it sounds as if she has heard this family story over and over again. If her story is true, it would certainly explain why her family was not affiliated with a tribe, as her parents were disenfranchised from both sides.
Rather than focusing on something that, by your explanations would require an apology only, I think it would better serve your people to demand that she (Warren) step up and get assistance for the North Dakota Native Americans who are being denied the right to vote... she could get volunteers and equipment to get everyone "registered to vote", and demonstrate that she really does stand for the Native American people... unlike mr t's wife, who said "they should go back to where they came from... India."
There are more than just this video of people asking for an apology
"my son's girl just took a DNA test that revealed that she was part Native American, rather than Mexican."
That's not possible because these tests are not that precise.
"In terms of the science, one of these so-called Native American markers are found exclusively in Native people. They are not found exclusively in one tribe or another. The very fact that 23andme was able to use populations that are found in what is today Latin America tells you that those markers are not found discreetly in one tribe or another. All of the people that have Native American markers today are people who are descended from a handful of 'ancient' Native Americans and we’re all related, of course, across the continent, just like humans around the world are ultimately genetically related."
theslot.jezebel.com/our-vote-matters-very-little-kim-tallbear-on-elizabeth-1829783321
LOL You beat me to the punch! I was gonna type the same reply! Mexican is just a "Nationality". p.s...you forgot to add African! Many Mexicans have African ancestry, although they try to hide it. ("Keep Your Grandmother in the closet").
Wait a minute, those Native Americans are being denied the right to vote? But they'll let illegal people from south of the border vote? OMGWTF. If ANYONE deserves to vote and have a super high voice in america's politics, it's native americans, no matter what tribe they come from.
But doesn’t explain her using it to get minority status
I am from Virginia, and have ancestry in the Carolinas and other eastern states, and earlier in my life I used to hear that I had a great grandmother or somebody or another who was Cherokee Indian. But I have never tried to run around using it to my advantage just whenever it suits. Elizabeth Warren should be ashamed of herself, but then we know these people have no shame and their hypocrisy has no bounds
di it ever occur to you that she may be mentioning it because that story she told actually meant something to her growing up.
@@mrose6107 So, this woman, who is by her own accord, so smart, just decided to repeat something, something she definitely used to her own benefit, financially, without checking in to it? That would be like me telling a police officer that I'm not guilty of speeding because my speedometer doesn't work. She is a liar, and she got caught that time. You can't say I'm not guilty of that because I didn't know. If she was going to receive a financial benefit from it, then she should have made sure it was true. And people vote for a liar like her, a fraud, makes you wonder
In African and I’m team native I stand with my brothers and sisters ✊🏾💪🏾🙏🏾
Lil Howard natives are not your brothers and sisters lmfao what are you saying
Claudia mariani he wa tryna be supportive damn
Claudia mariani shut the fuck up okay!! 😘
Mehkiya Taylor some people are ignorant
@@claudiamarianidamato9499 fuck you... we are a family
I am Metis - meaning that in my ancestry I have great grandparents numerous times removed (about 6-10 generations, similar to Warrens) who were Aboriginal. DNA however cannot tell me what my family history does because of the way the tribes actually worked hundreds of years ago. When there was a war between tribes, or between a tribe and Europeans, there would be what amounted to POWs. These people would be taken and assimilated into the tribe. They would be adopted or married off to members of the tribe and for all intents and purposes become a member of that tribe and now considered an Aboriginal. So the "pure" Aboriginal bloodline is not even remotely "pure" - just like the "white" European bloodline is not even remotely pure. You cannot tell if someone has Aboriginal blood in them, unless they have a very, VERY detailed geneaology that specifies each and every member of their family and know EXACTLY what race the member of said family was - which, frankly, how many people actually CAN detail their geneaolgy that clearly and with that much certainty beyond perhaps 6 generations (and if you think that is enough to "prove" your "pureness" you need a refresher in genetics)?
The DNA test is ridiculous - but then, so is Trump's assertion that Warren's family's history is a lie (as is the Native American's response to anyone that DARES be proud of their own Metis (and it IS Metis) heritage). There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with claiming your Metis heritage. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with being DAMN well proud of it. I don't have to officially belong to a tribe today to know that my ancestors did several generations ago. I don't have to be embarrassed or cowed by Aboriginals who ARE officially a part of a tribe today, simply because my ancestors fell in love with the people they fell in love with, and lost their Aboriginal status because of that (and that is the ONLY reason I don't have my status today - because women who married outside the tribe were STRIPPED of their status, but men who did brought their new NON-NATIVE wives into the tribe), because if they hadn't - I wouldn't be here today. To be ashamed of our ancestry is to be completely and utterly disrespectful to the people who are responsible for us being here today.
Hear, hear !!
Oh my too much truth for the ignorant..
The problem is the BENEFITS SHE RECEIVED! It’s not like she just said o I have some somewhere in my lineage & dropped it as any American that can trace their family more than a few generations in the USA can find a drop of “Native” blood in their lines the issue becomes an ISSUE when she is marking it as her nationality on applications when she uses it to get a JOB AT HARVARD when she pops it out when it’s beneficial & then turns it off! She’s yet another “pale skin” claiming something that doesnt belong to her! & quite frankly it doesn’t belong to you either unless you have a DIRECT lineage or have been RAISED in a tribe you don’t just get to become a part of a millennia’s old culture that is disappearing at a scary rate & is NOT JUST A SHOW FOR NON-MEMBERS! Being a member of a tribe MEANS SOMETHING! It holds a very big part of our identities it is about tradition & customs & is a very special part of we are as ppl & nobody gets to just spout of the mouth cuz they have some blood! It’s not BLOOD THAT MAKES YOU A FIRST NATION PERSON ITS A history it’s a family way of being that is very difficult for outsiders to fully grasp & that is why when a tribal member married outside the tribe if they LEFT they became a part of their spouses “tribe” if they STAYED their spouse became a part of their tribe & just FYI women who married outside the tribe were not stripped of anything EXCEPT AS IT PERTAINS TO INHERITANCE THAT WOULD AFFECT THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE they were always welcomed back but if they lived OUTSIDE THE TRIBE then their children wouldn’t be considered a member of the tribe because as I said there are customs & traditions that happen WITHIN a tribe so if your not LIVING with the tribe it was very difficult to “live in 2 worlds” so for the sake of the offspring OUTSIDE the tribe they were not considered members but would still have been welcomed by the family! & I can tell you this not based on any folklore but as a LIFE EXPERIENCE being raised inside a tribe with family members that have left the tribe! Which in itself can be a very difficult thing spiritually as you feel like something is missing! I have cousins that have came home to the tribe as adults that had struggled in the outside “USA” community & are thriving in their native community! We still love the ones that aren’t raised with us it’s just a different upbringing!
Amen.. the Creator put our DNA in us to embrace. The memory in our blood from ancestors make us strong. I've been taught that you never stop being First Nations, whether a person is Metis or has distant ancestry, the feeling of our being connected to that and other ancestry is all part of the drum given to us. To say Elizabeth's drum should not be listened to is racism via assimilation and imposing something onto us that doesn't belong to us. And it's slamming the Creator.
@@crystalmcqueen4296 so there is a native privilege entitlement and benefits.. Oh did realize tbe native nations was sooo disenfranchised.. This proves one thing.. Hypocrites. Oh there's native benefits.. There's farm worker benefits there's benefits for mothers there's benefits for minorities... What happened to us being equal.?
Deb Haaland had exactly the right response.
Thank you!!
No she didn’t. She should have called Warren out for being a fraud. Why indulge in her fraudulent claims? She is a white woman...period. The only reason anyone is coming to her defense is because she’s battling Trump. If it was anyone else calling her out, and she released this bogus dna test, she would get raked over the coals.
J W No, if there had been no possibility that she had Native American DNA that would have been true, but she has not lied at all. She has faithfully told her family’s story as it was told to her, and only had the testing to shut Trump up, who, apparently doesn’t care anyway, in spite of bringing it up every time he refers to her. The tests show evidence that she has some kind of connection to native Americans, so that is not proof that she lied. So who here is the liar again?
I love how we infight over tiny things. trump only cares that he humiliates people who he sees as lesser things.
let us aim our barbs at our actual foes
I live in Deb Haaland's state. Haaland is a moron. Green, red, blue, purple, white, doesn't matter, Haaland is an idiot.
You don't have the right to tell someone who they can and cannot be if their DNA says that this is where she came from. She didn't say that the test proves that she is entitled to something. She said that she is who she say she is and you cannot take that away. I know that I am because I saw the people I descended from. You can't say you have exclusive rights to to determine someone else's identity.
I am an attack helicopter from the Hopi tribe who identifies as the German Red Baron. Respect me or die.
Coolspirit....my problem with her is...she used that miniority status to further her political agenda. When Harvard law school honored her as a woman of color...this is a false narrative.
So is everyone black then if we’re claiming 1% or less dna?
@@onepunch2310 yes because that is the original man and woman on the entire face of the planet.
@@onepunch2310 giving that this is the only group on the planet that no one wants to give reparation to I don't think you want to be a part of that group.
This lady Tara Houska is extremely disrespectful to mixed raced people. She disrespect us to be mixed race and decided who and where to live. She said; you can be whatever ethnical group you are, the important is what you claimed to be. So with this reasoning , in my country; white, blue eyes people are claiming land in national parks, with the only fact that they “feel as Native American”, and live in tribes as long as the get the land; then they sold the land and continues their journey feeling as Native American in another usurped land. Anfd be way, this lady is far more white-pink than I am.
I think it is good that we are proud of our heritage, whatever it is, and wish to claim it and explore it. If she was ashamed of it, that would be an insult. I have always been proud of my Native American heritage but I claim to be 13th generation American because the patriarch of my American family came from England in the 16oos. Racism is a cancer and it comes from all attempts to separate, to divide. Should Elizabeth, or any of us who share a similar story, hide it and deny it? Why can't we be proud of it? Where I live we have a monument to Chief Standing Bear, a Ponca native chief, who is sometimes credited with being the first civil rights activist. He made the point: "That hand is not the color of yours, but if I prick it, the blood will flow, and I shall feel pain," said Standing Bear. "The blood is of the same color as yours. God made me, and I am a man. (Wikipedia)
Ann Ham ...thank you Ann so very well said
To add to what T.T. has already said, yes, proof of tribal membership was required and, if I recall correctly, a minimum percentage like 1/16th. Secondly, if she did take advantage of such an offering it may have been on the table because no one else had claimed it. But it would be difficult to explain her lack of proof.
I also want to point out that our ancestors are important to us all and here we are speaking of our ancestors! Should I deny my ancestors--any of them? For some reason, I find this to be spiritually abhorrent. I don't want to claim something that is false, I want to claim something that is true.
T.T. lol No, I think it goes like this iirc: Full, 1/2, 1/4 (still very identifiable), 1/8, 1/16. Only four generations and so not quite pink with yellow hair. :)
@discorperted did you also know that she is the first person of color to be awarded the job at Harvard??? So, she stole that from someone who actually deserves it. Warren proved that she is actually one of the Whitest people of all time with that test lol
Get a clue. She's not Native American.
“Upgrade herself??” What is wrong with you people?? What is wrong to share your family tree?? I am more than happy to learn that Liz has a background with the native, what is wrong with you?? She doesn’t need to “get credit” in any form or shape... Her carrier is OUTSTANDING!! Get a life !
Would check the box "black" on a college application if you knew it would give you an advantage over others? Your picture shows you to be a white boy.
robert howard What??? You mean Pocahontas lived in Machoupitchou?? What a shame lol
These guys are great. The Indian nation has there own identity. Which has always supported freedom.
Miss Tara is a very beautiful and intelligent women.
It's a joke, 1%? Really? Give me a break.
How is Disrespectful if somebody claim is a certain tribe? Hey by The way I am a Cherokee and I don't owe anybody a proof.
Thobias Marandu well if u went around marking that on you were on college & job applications as it helps your chances at getting the position then YES u absolutely would owe some proof of your tribal affiliation! We are a real people we still exist in our ancestral lands & PALE SKINS have taken quite enough from my ppl!
@@crystalmcqueen4296 Exactly, I couldn't have said it better myself!!!!
There is only a few doing the taking, while the rest of us (all colors) continue to be squeezed. This hasn't changed for centuries, the only difference being is the people who were in the Americas first, are the last to feel the pains of greed. Keep in mind when Rome invaded Europe, it completely obliterated most European culture. Through religion, the Druids were all slaughtered, through written language none to be found, yet Scandinavians had a written language (who were spared a Roman invasion), but the Gauls didn't? Not likely.
Scarcity driven economics has been a plague on the human race, no matter what name you give it, the very few steal from the rest of us. Even in an age where we can live a much better way of life, the technology is there to put every human on the planet in a better standard of living, one that takes care of the environment, the management of resources, and puts the well being of the human race as a priority value. As long as the people subject themselves to all the divisionary tactics of the exceedingly greedy, we will never see change and progress forward as a species.
Justin Gray False Doctrine Killer Revelation 1:3 I’m ABSOLUTELY meaning to be rude THAT WAS MORONIC! I am a Tribal member I’ve got numbers & id & WAS RAISED WITHIN MY TRIBE! I’ve traveled all over North America for gatherings & have NEVER seen a native like you described so no we ARE NOT DARK LIKE ETHIOPIANS nor do we all appear Asian tho the leading theory is that we migrated many millennia ago over the Bering Strait when it was a land bridge between Russia & North America now that being said it was MANY THOUSANDS of years ago & evolution is a real thing! But seriously where the holy hell did you ever get the idea that we are dark like Ethiopians that’s quite possibly the most absurd thing I’ve ever heard frankly I’ve also never met a Native that is that dang dark yes in the summer we “bronze” but we don’t damn well burn! & just FYI the pic was taken at the start of spring after a long cold winter when any Native is at our lightest as it’s too damn cold in the North where I live to be outside getting a tan! 🤦♀️
To become a member of the tribe you have to have someone with a number from one of the Indian rolls. I have Indian ancestors but no one with a roll number so I can't become a member.
Everyone wants to be Native American these days, but where are they when we are faced with issues on tribal lands like land and pipeline issues. NOWHERE.
OK let's be clear I have Cherokee Blood but I DO NOT claim tribal affiliation....
What I want to know is why they didn't have someone from the Cherokee Nation on the panel. Instead they have a Shoshone, a Blackfoot, and a Ojibwa.
I"m confused. She reiterated that she's not claiming to be part of a tribe. The lawyer, trained to speak and hear clearly, is really doing a disservice to all lawyers, and is intent on not hearing this. Warren hasn't claimed to be culturally Native American. She's stating that some of her ancestors are Native American. Nothing can ever take that away.
I agree, she had nothing to be apologetic for, she was just stating facts
I think it was more abut showing what Trump would do. and Trump word. I think you miss the point.
Anng G no, you miss the point. Trump manipulated this fool into taking a test that proved she’s a white woman.
Their are Native tribes that do DNA test to determine how much they will pay you.
They also use dna to exclude other people from being Native.
fireblast 744 just u do know the so called "Native Americans” were copper colored, or what is now referred to as "black” right?
One of Warren's arguments is that her family is from Oklahoma, wow, what a stretch. My grandmother was born in Fargo when it was still in Dakota Territory. That doesn't make her Indian.
I know many, many Black natives denied access to tribal citizenship.
BlackDivine My question is what happened to the Melanin In the indigenous population that’s something they never talk about🤔
BlackDivine
I do too. I have a friend who is clearly of Indian background, and it’s in the DNA, and she’s been rejected too.
Fenied by those mexican people the US government contracted to pertrnd to be native.
The End Begins most Mexicans have indigenous blood and so no surprise they look similar to their brothers and sisters in the north
@@teachesl2945 they are their brother and sister there is no difference. Cali and TX were parts of mexico, so why do we pretend they are some new/ different group of people.
what is disrespectful by warren? trying to defend herself against vicious personal attack on a national stage? my greatgrandfather was russian, am i not allowed to say that? does it imply i claim any rights?
i might miss a huge point, but the only issue in all of this is trump, nothing else.
She went well beyond claiming to be part native.
Clearly she's a white woman with about a 1% or less of native ancestry. But through the 80s in the 90s she was listed in a directory of minority law professors while she was at UPenn and Harvard.
This occurred because she self described as a minority and even reported herself as such to the point where Harvard Law School touted her as the first woman of color professor, and boasted of having minorities in the faculty. Again, if she didn't benefit, the school did benefit from her missrepresenting herself as a minority and as a Native American.
A white dude with a 1% sub-Saharan African ancestry wouldn't call himself black. I'm Hispanic with 1/8 Danish ancestry and I don't go around calling myself a northern European. Warren did so, and did self identify as a minority and as a Native American. Schools and university she taught at, and even studies about minorities in Academia touted her as such because she self-identified that way.
thnx, carlos. makes more sense now. i do not have the time to varify what you are saying, but i assume you are accurate and that sounds indeed a bit weird.
though i must say i still do not see the big issue. what i heard from her was that within her family that indeed had been an issue, this was discussed and played a key role in how family affairs played out a few generations ago. so where is the moral wrong doing on her part? why is her identifying with native americans in any way a bad thing, even if it was faint and slim? it is not like she is claiming to be a kennedy or something.
and you seem to indicate that she might not have had any benefit from this, but harvard did. well, how can that be her fault? where is the moral code she broke?
everything i have ever heard from her was honest, brave, anti-establishment and i cannot help but think that this thing here is either totally blown out of proportion or a non-issue to begin with. i heard lindsay graham say he will take a test and claim he is at least as native as she is, but that misses the point she has been making, namely that it had an effect on decisions being made in her family. THAT is the whole point, not the % of DNA.
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She used her so called heritage to get benefits in college. That is not ok
I can't help but worry that someday the tribes will eventually deny all people claiming to have Native American in them regardless if it's true or not. I'm afraid that one day when I tell someone that I have Native american in my family history that they'll just say that I don't simply because I'm not a recorded member of a tribe or even look like a Indian. Some people either wants to act like they are intitled to something in which is wrong I agree, but there are people who just want to acknowledge who they are and where they're came from. Those people just want to show that they have a connection. To show they they really are not different. There have been too many times in history where one race looked down on another because of color, ethnicity, and race. I'm proud of my heritage. But nothing in my family tree will change how I act, live,behave, and treat people. There are too many people that when discovering something in their heritage that they think that they was born and raised like that. Yeah i have Native american in my family but i also have Irish and Scottish in it as well, but i live, behave, and everything the same since I was born. I don't say that I was born in Ireland and can speak in Irish or Scottish, (don't know the proper names of languages). I was born and raised in Tennessee and nothing's going to change that. I and others just like to be acknowledged about our families, and I hope we all can see that we are no different from each other.
American Indians need respect (period).
She's not making any claims to tribal affiliation and she took the test to call Trump's bluff. There are better ways to draw attention to Native issues than attacking a likely ally. Just chill.
@Tony Clifton those are all lies. Either you know that and you're a liar, or you haven't done your research and should shut up about it.
Tony Clifton, it is not true that she claimed Native American status to get jobs. . Unless you are worth at least 3 million dollars, your attacking Elizabeth Warren is just shooting yourself in the foot.
Warren is a fraud who desperately wanted to claim status as a minority because in her bizarre world of identity victim politics, it’s actually beneficial. Now it’s backfiring.
Tony Clifton where the hell did you hear that on Faux News? There have been hundreds of interviews of her employers that have said the Native American issue was NEVER a factor in any way of her schooling or employment? Is this Just another Obama's a African not American Moment. My God, haven't you people learned anything?
The left eats itself.
Its Elizabeths story, its her family's story, her heritage. She has a right. I disagree with the panelists. they might use warren and the opportunity she represents to highlight the plights and mistreatment of native americans. they're angry understandably but cmon its her family's story. shes allowed to tell it.
L Jett she’s a white woman. She’s a liar.
She has a right? My god you people are sick! She has less native blood than the average white American and its justified because its “her right”? Wow...wonder what you’d think of a Republican pulled the same maneuver
She does. She doesn't have the right to claim tribal affiliation, which she has. That is what the pushback is about.
Gary Johnson well at least you acknowledge that there is/should be pushback...you know there is something besides DNA testing...its called historically documentation of birthrights. That’s what the tribal community uses most of the time. She can’t provide any of that! Odd for someone who’s mother and father allegedly had to elope because of racist grandparents. I’m 1/64th and have documentation that would show who is who.
After a lot of contemplation and looking for answers as to why I was so inclined to being of independent thought and so protective of my personal sovereignty, I got around to having a DNA test to reveal my ancestry and historical roots...To my surprise it turned out to be that I was totally 100% Human, I always knew I was different to the rest. As for all my life my character stood out like a white spot on a black sheet, a challenge to the shepherds herding the willing Sheople towards the abattoirs. I now understand why.
If Elizabeth Warren wants to really celebrate her heritage she should visit the reservations where people are suffering and come up with solutions to help them.
Look, this argument that she is not part of a tribal nation is disingenuous. It's like telling someone that claims to be of Italian descent that they are not a citizen of Italy. No freaking duh! Citizenship is not the claim.
She claimed to be native and was the first female of colour at the Harvard faculty.
She claimed to have native american ancestry which she does.
kedwa30 YES! Why is it so hard for people to understand this?
@@HammerheadGuitar for Harvard to claim this, Harvard should have verified whether or not it was true to their liking. Apparently Harvard was satisfied that it was true but other people prefer their own opinion about Elizabeth Warren's heritage.
kedwa30 How is it an opinion to state that she is whiter than the average northern European and lied about being a native to further her carreer? And btw i'm 0.1% black nigga.
Native American candidate Deb Haaland, who is running for a seat in the House of Representatives from New Mexico -- running her first election campaign. If she wins, she will be the first Native American woman elected to Congress. Haaland is a strong voice for Native Americans, for other minorities and for the poor of all backgrounds.
Haaland is a member of the Laguna Pueblo tribe in New Mexico.
From the clip showing her explaining her family history, as well as the FACT that her DNA test affirms she has partial Cherokee DNA, I can’t understand why this would be offensive to anyone. There are probably thousands of White Americans who have partial Native American DNA, is that fact somehow offensive to Native Americans? I’m not sure how stating these facts about her family history and DNA would benefit her politically or financially. It’s not like she wants to claim a college scholarship based on her ethnic background. Hopefully she didn’t claim to be Native American race for any material benefits because she’s clearly White with a small mix of other ethnicities.
13:44 This is the best and brightest you have on your show? What law school did this gentleman graduate from with such a strong vocabulary? They must be proud.
She was NOT pretending to be a part of "The Cherokee Nation"...all she did was display the fact that her mother had some native blood..thats all.
The point is she used it for her own benefit ....most people I'm sure have traces ....of alot of different .races.....she's less then 99 percent native.........take a test you probably have more......native then she does. Liberals like Warren are racist.
Get lost bro!!...and many Natives by the way are less than 20%, many tribes actually..check it out!. I have native blood from both parents, its less than 10% at this point but what???...come on...Trump is the enemy of Native Americans not EW.
First Nations have for generations applied often highly-subjective parameters to determining band membership. For decades Native women were excluded, automatically, for marrying outside the band, or tribe. The same parameter was not applied to men. 'Indian status' has become another means of division in first Nations peoples - that sees some mixed-blood 'natives' given full status, while almost full-blood - Indian people are non-existent as First Nations citizens.
First Nations refers to predominant indigenous peoples in Canada south of the Arctic Circle, not to American Indians. People who have no idea what they're talking about keep using the term to refer to American Indians/Native Americans thinking it makes them sound smart, it doesn't.
Is being above 0.01% Native American a parameter? If not, it’d be a could one to add to the list.
@@michaelgarrett7059 people ignorant of DNA think that 0.01% is insignificant and yet a chimpanzee has 98% same DNA as human. So the margin of DNA that is looked at to determine if it is human is less than 2% and within humanity the margins are very small. It should be noted that humans are among the most homogenous species on the planet.
if i wear pony tails: i get more pandering... SMH
No disrespect to tribal right to determine who belongs, i one must keep in mind,that the white man disrupted and broke up families. Blood does not lie, i think she has the right to identify in relation to her family history.
No direspect to tribal law.
I have native American heritage, but my looks grabbed more of the Celtic side of my parental blend. I can trace ancestry to Sweetwater, TN where my great grandfather (purported to be 1/2 Cherokee) was raised. But because our family has never affiliated with a tribe there is NO WAY I would have ever represented myself as Native American though I'm very proud of that ancestral connection. When asked about one's race on applications I DOUBT they want to know if you have what amounts to maybe a 'drop', but Warren used it to get ahead. Maybe I should put that on job applications -- maybe it would be a lot easier to find a job instead of listing myself as caucasian.
I, like Warren, was told similar stories about my possible heritage. I shared such stores, fully acknowledging that there was no evidence/only stories, with my Arapahoe boyfriend... He was super kind. He didn't try to disabuse be of these stories, but explained that it's really common for people to have these kinds of beliefs about thier background.. But that bringing them up to card carrying tribal members on his reservation (we traveled there a few months later) would be meet with serious hostility.. because I had no proof to back the claims and because ultimately background isn't comparable to being a member of a given culture.
Later when Warren began making these claims publicly I knew she hadnt reached across cultural lines to test her beliefs and that it would only be a matter of time before she was met with cultural backlash. Also I just feel that using your racial background as a political tool is cringe. She would have done better by simply addressing relevant policy.
In the Black/ Slave's History- since Slaves were not allowed to read- all Slaves had was their oral history to go on. I remember stories that my great ( granpa & grandma) & grandmother told me. I in turn are telling my kids- that is part of my legacy -that I can give to my kids & hopefully they will pass it down to theirs.
it maybe illustrates the problem of the word heritage. It doesn't propose a standard on meaningful connection in addition to the troubling implications regarding what you receive. And most of us are one accident in the maternity ward from our stories about who we are taking on an absurd quality.
@@victorcates9330 -Sorry- I do not understand what you are trying to say. Break it down. BTW-fyi- I do not
believe anyone that was a Slave - WERE born in "a hospital maternity
ward".
@@lueblablacknell711 my take away from Victor's comment was that genes are always inherited tho culture can be lost from one generation to the next. That stories passed down generation to generation can sometimes be dubious.
Some anecdotal examples here: my family had realized that some of the stories handed down were possibly false accounts made by a female family member several generations back, who saw value in hiding the fact that one of her children may have been the product of rape/incest. Considering the stigma that held then and now..I get why she hid this. I've know peeps who have birth records that misrepresent who the parents were (typically the fathers name was what was misrepresented). That may be the maternity Ward issues he was referring to.. Tho Victor didn't mention slavery at all in his comment...
Hell yes, I can now claim Native benefits and job preference with my .01%
I do not condone calling the President a pig, no matter whose Tribe one belongs to. Insulting President Trump is not honorable and I do not believe Tribal Elders would condone such disgraceful speech, on the part of a Native American or anyone else. If one expects respect, credibility and solidarity one cannot fall below the line of common courtesy. Whether Mr. Ross agrees with President Trump's handling of Senator Warren's self-aggrandizing behavior or not, his crass remark disqualifies him as a spokesperson for his People and I am certain his Elders would agree with me. Even if President Trump is to be judged based on his often crude remarks, calling him a pig is inappropriate and shows an immaturity typical of angry teenagers, not grown up men. And finally, by bunching everyone who is not Indian into the "white people" bucket only shows Mr. Ross thinks of himself as "better-than" simply based on his ethnic background and only serves to further
his obvious attitude of separation, division and mistrust. I, for one, resent it, since I am simply a Human Being, equal to all other Human Beings. Isn't it time such divisive, self-righteous statements are left in the past? Haven't we had enough of this one-up-man-ship based on race? Frankly, I am fed up with it. However, I'd like to thank Ms. Houska and Mr. Trahant for speaking up on this ridiculous situation Senator Warren has engendered. I hope their wisdom will resonate in the ears of those who need to hear it.
I know poor pig. Pigs are sweet and warm and do no harm, why compare them to trump.
I agree Roberta , he is an obnoxious jerk .
No, his remarks DOES qualify him by his people. If it were not so, then they would not have appointed him. They put him in place, just so that he could say that. you would be surprised... A great deal of Natives from the lands as far south; South america to the North plains and the Natives tribes that still exists Canada, they DONT LIKE WHITE FOLKS. You had nothing to say when trump made remarks of Pocahontas. Pocahontas was from a particular tribe and anyone who is Native or has some familiarity knows that, that is a grave insult to mix tribes up with another different tribe. My children's father is From El Salvador and is Pipil (Nautu Tribe Indigenous of Central America) that is an insult to mix them up with the Clezclatans (i know i spelled that wrong). That is an insult to call Just like someone from Guatemala a Mexican (because they are all latino ). or calling someone from Zimbabwe a Nigeria (because they all come from africa). calling someone from Palestine an Egyptian. Its called culture sensitiveness. Everyone isnt the same, so why group them? And to be in the public eye and not take that kind of care and is eudcated enough to know better shows that He Chose not to take that kind of care. That's what the Blackfoot are screaming about. So Ross clapped back rightfully i say on him and that woman.
Agreed regarding Mr. Ross! So shameful and showed his true colors that he’s still on the Democratic Plantation. Did you notice he caught himself saying his own racist remark against Trump, as soon as he said it? He discredited himself, right then and there that his ‘white bias’ is evidently one-sided. Hope he enjoyed his Spartacus moment, that’s permanently captured on TV.
The same president that would scalp them. 🤔
Put natives on dollar bills. That would make symbolic gesture of decolonialism.
I know for a fact that my great great grandmother was all Cherokee. She is buried in Paris, Texas--separate cemetary from my great great grandfather because he was white.
Does that hurt your feelings?
Most natives in the US today are actually, mixed with white European descent genes. Most of these people have very little of the original native American Indian gene pool, but it has been diluted and polluted. None of these people are true natives. For example, blacks in the US have 46% of White European genes. The same is true for modern Indians in the US.
scretching08 I was with you until you wrote “polluted.” That word has negative connotations and is usually used in context like “1 quart of oil can pollute 1 million gallons of fresh water.” By saying that Native Americans have had their gene pool “polluted” your statement plays in to racist beliefs of “racial purity” and the ranking of one race above another.
John Early While I do agree with your sentiments, in no way does his statement put one race over another. People who care about racial purity could also care about the purity of the races without putting one race over another. Let's call them racial segregationists to distinguish them from racial supremacists.
But we are splitting hairs now.
Did she added her name to the doss role? Trump said she didn’t and she took a test to prove trump wrong... now, did you go after Gram? My grandfather was Native and I will support my family! My niece is Native 50% and 50%black.. we are proud of our history and heritage!!!!
I can't go through all of these comments but here's the issue - so those of us who have American Indian Ancestry are supposed to suppress our Ancestry? Deny it was there? That because our roots go 6, 7, 8 ... on and on generations back - we have to deny that? Suppress it? Be humiliated if we don't? She didn't ask for anything. Nor do most descendants with Native roots ask for, or expect, anything from the tribes. We are encouraged to be proud of that which we came yet also told to not speak of it. It's wrong to place humiliation upon a person who knows who they are and from where they came. Great grandmothers don't lie. Nor did they boast. As a matter of fact, they rarely spoke of it unless asked but instead, led by example.
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I don't think Warren was in the wrong these conversations need to be had, her quarrel is with Trump. Now I understand these things bleed into the life's of others. We need these conversations.
Warren was trying to score some points and I bet she wishes she had kept her mouth shut on that one.
Senator Graham was being sarcastic. I don’t think he was serious at all!
She didn’t claim tribal affiliation or native experience. This whole thing has been blown way out of proportion partially by Warren herself but mostly by Trump and the Republicans. A lot of us have native ancestry, that does not make us Native American but it is a part of our family history.
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TONY The woman claimed on LEGAL FORMS to be NATIVE AMERICAN Not Causcasion to get into schools and APPLY FOR JOBS and was CLAIMED A MINORITY...she is 0.09 % native American less than most Americans SHE LIED was a FRAUD GOT CAUGHT...she also claimed her Mom eloped because she was a Native American banned from her DAD she is 0.09% white as snow...she is a LIAR WAKE UP!!!!! I have Iroquois Indian in me from my BLONDE BLUE EYED MOM and I CAN'T say on a LEGAL FORM I am NATIVE AMERICAN! Are you nuts? SHE LIED ON LEGAL FORMS! FOR SCHOOL AND WORK!
@@kikidmaurice7989 wrong. She claimed she was Caucasian.
@@kikidmaurice7989 Stop fucking unnecessarily capitalizing..its annoying, and doesn't help your point. ffs
WRONG SHE IS ON FILE claiming NATIVE AMERICAN when she applied to be a proffessor at HARVARD SHUT UP LIAR It's a FACT
I am resentful for this! I have been told that I have native American heritage and my grandmother tried to find proof witch is hard to prove because of birth and marriage records .. I would think you would feel honored for someone wanting to be a part of your heritage.
That's flattering, but disingenuous and false. It's like telling a fat chick she looks healthy. I have ginger friends running around saying their Choctaw because of a country song. DAPL activists based on their phony self-determination, to boot. Really pushing the envelope. I can say I'm am elephant because I liked the movie Dumbo and I'm scared of mice. That dont make me grow tusks, though. I'm native, so what Warren (and many others) do is EXTREMELY offensive.
Not every culture is going to welcome your expectation that they feel honored by your unsubstantiated claim of membership. Not coming atcha... I've been told similar stories about my heritage my whole life. But possible ethnic heritage doesn't entitle you (or me) to the cultural acceptance of others. Read a bit about current native cultures... It won't take long to learn that these types of claims are often unwelcome.
I had a girlfriend who was very pretty, and she kept getting told that she looked like 'one of us' by people of different ethnic heritage. I told her it was the highest compliment one could give is to think (hope) that they are related. Elizabeth Warren was forced by the lies of republicans to address her heritage. It turns out she was not a liar. Trump and republicans are disingenuous to say the least.
They are trying to change the narrative now to some egregious act perpetrated by Warren, while ignoring their own constant mocking references to 'Pocohontas' for nearly 3 years.
Right wingnuts still claim that Obummer is a kenyan communist married to a man. Beto is right that you have to call out these liars for what they are, or they will keep lying.
Warren lied you fool and that's why REAL NATIVE Americans are pissed.
Elizabeth Warren is 99.99% white! That’s less than 1% and is not a heritage of Native American! Because of her family history, and no easily available DNA testing back in the 1980s and 1990s, no one would deny her Native American or minority claim. Because of her beliefs, she applied to Ivy League schools as a “minority” not white. Ivy League schools were under protest for not hiring minority professors (Black, Hispanic, or Native Americans) st that time. So, Ms. Warren saw the opportunity to list herself in their directory as a “minority”. Now, thanks to easily affordable DNA tests and the results , we now know the truth about her claim.
She is 80% bingo player and 20% slot machine player
She DID NOT call herself a member. She said she had a family verbal storytelling of who her ancestors were. WTF
Ben Nighthorse Campbell was the first Native American member go the House of Representatives. He served Colorado's 3rd District from 1987 the 1993.
DONALD DUKE they said FIRST NATIVE AMERICAN WOMAN...not man if that is what your referencing
Actually, Charles Curtis, Vice President under Herbert Hoover was also a Senator and Congressman from Kansas. Curtis's mother was 3/4 Indian (Kaw, Osage) and he spent several childhood years living with his grandparents on a reservation. Curtis celebrated his Indian roots.