Great vid! I was part of the test group when these units were in development. Totally awesome product. Turned my Forester into a total beast off-road. Top tip is the install of solid mounts or a brace for the carrier. Without a brace or refreshed mounts the carrier could see unwanted movement under load (mine did). Best of luck with the install!
We have a lot diff lokers, which produces in Russia. For a front and rear diffs, and they are different costructions. One locker costs about 200 usd. I have a quife type lockers on front and rear diffs on my lifted subaru legacy bl5, which i installed by myself. Every subaru must have lockers, i think😊
Just installed one (from Subi lift oz) in my spare diff on the weekend. Just waiting on a 12kg/m centre diff to arrive to transfer more torque to that rear locker. Already running a 1.59:1 converted dual range 5MT 😍
Good video. Mudrat design and Fabrication is also a distributor in the USA. You utilized my pictures in your video showing the different types of r160.
Good information!! Thank you for sharing that info! this was my first time hearing about the bushings and possibly adding a brace to the rear diff. Would running the diff brace interfere or be compatible with the primitive racing rear diff skid plates?
crazy cooter if you have VLSD , the Torqmaster won’t fit due to different size , the rear diff lockers is for the Subaru’s who has open diff . Mine has 03 XS with VLSD and it won’t fit on mine either .
@@crxtodd16 partly the loud clicking while cornering, but mostly the rest of my driveline modifications (20kg centre diff/front LSD) in combination with the locker meant the driveline locked up really easy and often jolted the car on sharp turns.
my question to you is this, is it really worth the money to add this IF you havent done something to the center diff to actually get power to the rear? With no way to select a true locked up 50/50 power split. I dont see how a rear locker helps that much, the torque bind is just going to cause the center diff to slip and make the front work harder, which unless you have a front LSD you are still SOL with only 1 wheel spinning. Am I wrong in this?
1978JWJ is it worth investing in if you haven’t modified the centre? Yes, check out this video and you’ll see the difference between open/VLSD/torq locker czcams.com/video/lNRpRId5WUc/video.html My findings with the locker so far are that the 20kg centre does cause the locker to bind up a bit on tight corners causing the car to jolt. It’s also quite noisy so I wouldn’t recommend it for a daily driver. Offroad the locker is an absolute weapon however and works brilliantly
Not sure as I didn’t have to go through that process myself. Best contact Torq Master industries directly to answer that question. www.torqmasters.com/contact_us
Ignition Offroad I ended up putting them on my crosstrek too and i havent felt a difference either. Thanks for showing me that company! And Thanks for replying!
James Meadørs yes, these units fit the crosstrek. If you have a one bolt diff, make sure you get the one bolt locker. @softroadingthewest has a great locker install video on a crosstrek
The torq locker will be more effective off road as it is a true diff locker but if your only driving sand and gravel roads there’s probably not much point getting one. It really depends what trails you plan to drive with your vehicle.
This is not the first diff locker for a Subaru. The first diff locker for a Subaru used a solid axle Toyota diff converted to IRS with an air locker centre. The first Subaru using a Subaru diff with an e-locker was done about a few years ago. This is in my car. Following these, there is also a Subaru with a Subaru diff and an air locker. All are much better designs than this. And my car is quite happy with the old bushes.
Tony N you are quite right that others have previously fitted lockers to their Subaru’s and your build is definitely an inspiration to me! What I am trying to say in this video is that the Torq Locker is the first purpose built Subaru locker. The diff bushes are only known to effect the ratcheting component of the torq locker so this isn’t a problem you would have
Thanks for pointing this out. I hope for some of your experience somewhere, like in your Offroad Forester Project. Also hope you know those guys who did swap of diff and their exp. + videos of their car after swap are pretty impressive .. czcams.com/video/rWs-4gk_hBs/video.html Take care.
nothing good about locker until it will get tested like proper stuck in mud and wheels spining front and back for like half hr non stop , then we will see how good locker is . i heard some of them just braking.
scal man I’ve done a little testing with this now and offroad it has been flawless. I have also never heard of a Torq Master Industries locker breaking, they are a solid unit with good reputation
Great vid! I was part of the test group when these units were in development. Totally awesome product. Turned my Forester into a total beast off-road. Top tip is the install of solid mounts or a brace for the carrier. Without a brace or refreshed mounts the carrier could see unwanted movement under load (mine did). Best of luck with the install!
We have a lot diff lokers, which produces in Russia. For a front and rear diffs, and they are different costructions. One locker costs about 200 usd. I have a quife type lockers on front and rear diffs on my lifted subaru legacy bl5, which i installed by myself. Every subaru must have lockers, i think😊
Just installed one (from Subi lift oz) in my spare diff on the weekend. Just waiting on a 12kg/m centre diff to arrive to transfer more torque to that rear locker. Already running a 1.59:1 converted dual range 5MT 😍
Jamie Kulhanek that sounds like an awesome setup! I’m dreaming of one day getting a 1.59 low range gear set
Good video. Mudrat design and Fabrication is also a distributor in the USA. You utilized my pictures in your video showing the different types of r160.
Hey John. I'll add that to the description. Images were taken from the Torq Masters website.
@@ignitionoffroad5028 Rodger that.... Their install manual is 90% me.... ;) no worries.....
Fantastic work you've done there! The locker has been a massive deal for the offroad subie market
Cant wait to see more videos of you driving out in the bush after installing!
Really appreciate all the work thanks for this video! Been wanting to order one myself.
Don't do the solid bushings,you'll hate them.
Just replace with new OEM,you'll be much happier.
Keep up the vids. Great Explanation
nice one mate good video. nice word on the bushing.
side note studio lighting
mobsterwow I definitely want to get a proper studio setup one day. What can I say. Start at the bottom and work your way up 🤘
Good information!! Thank you for sharing that info! this was my first time hearing about the bushings and possibly adding a brace to the rear diff. Would running the diff brace interfere or be compatible with the primitive racing rear diff skid plates?
the.rooted. progress @softroadingthewest just did a video on that, but basically the diff guard will just increase audibility of the locker clicking
Excellent!👍
love it mate ... i have a VLSD in the outback and im interested to see your install since you are in the same boat as me ... keep up the good work !
crazy cooter if you have VLSD , the Torqmaster won’t fit due to different size , the rear diff lockers is for the Subaru’s who has open diff . Mine has 03 XS with VLSD and it won’t fit on mine either .
@@BlackSpade72 i have an 05 forester with a VLSD so i bought an open diff as a replacement.
I have a 2002 forester S I think that comes with a limited slip. How do you tell you have a limited slip
Thanks
I really hope to get out the top 4AT LSD
Many 5MT have suitable LSD but AT does not
Is the clicking noise from the locker permanent or will it ever go away.
As far as I understand, it's permanent.
As stated by Nick, it is a permeant feature. Its simply how the locker is designed that it ratchets in corners and creates the clicking noise.
Is this different from the Aussie Lokka?
I think it’s the same concept, just this one is designed specifically for a Subaru r160 diff
2 years later, would you recommend this for a daily driver that doubles as a weekend offroader? Or just stick to stock lsd?
I wasn’t happy with the on road characteristics so I removed mine after a few months. Wouldn’t recommend for a daily but works fantastic offroad
@@ignitionoffroad5028 Thank you for the update! What exactly didn't you like about it while driving normally on road?
@@crxtodd16 partly the loud clicking while cornering, but mostly the rest of my driveline modifications (20kg centre diff/front LSD) in combination with the locker meant the driveline locked up really easy and often jolted the car on sharp turns.
@@ignitionoffroad5028 Ah, that makes sense. Thank you for the response!!
my question to you is this, is it really worth the money to add this IF you havent done something to the center diff to actually get power to the rear? With no way to select a true locked up 50/50 power split. I dont see how a rear locker helps that much, the torque bind is just going to cause the center diff to slip and make the front work harder, which unless you have a front LSD you are still SOL with only 1 wheel spinning.
Am I wrong in this?
1978JWJ is it worth investing in if you haven’t modified the centre? Yes, check out this video and you’ll see the difference between open/VLSD/torq locker czcams.com/video/lNRpRId5WUc/video.html My findings with the locker so far are that the 20kg centre does cause the locker to bind up a bit on tight corners causing the car to jolt. It’s also quite noisy so I wouldn’t recommend it for a daily driver. Offroad the locker is an absolute weapon however and works brilliantly
Id be interested to see how you go, i have a 2012 forester....non turbo.
Thot it was a turbo durrrrrrrrr
Which sundial tool is needed to install this in a 1st-gen Crosstrek?
p/n?
Not sure as I didn’t have to go through that process myself. Best contact Torq Master industries directly to answer that question. www.torqmasters.com/contact_us
Were the bushings worth it? I just bought mine but will return if you don’t think they were worth it. Please let me know thanks!
Haven't had the chance to fit them yet, so at this stage I cannot say.
Have the solid bushes fitted now. Everyone told me I'll really feel the vibrations, but I haven't noticed a difference what so ever
Ignition Offroad I ended up putting them on my crosstrek too and i havent felt a difference either. Thanks for showing me that company! And Thanks for replying!
I'm confused as to whether this will fit a 2014 crosstrek xv with cvt one bolt diff?
James Meadørs yes, these units fit the crosstrek. If you have a one bolt diff, make sure you get the one bolt locker. @softroadingthewest has a great locker install video on a crosstrek
So do you need a torq locker if you have x mode?
The torq locker will be more effective off road as it is a true diff locker but if your only driving sand and gravel roads there’s probably not much point getting one. It really depends what trails you plan to drive with your vehicle.
This is not the first diff locker for a Subaru. The first diff locker for a Subaru used a solid axle Toyota diff converted to IRS with an air locker centre. The first Subaru using a Subaru diff with an e-locker was done about a few years ago. This is in my car. Following these, there is also a Subaru with a Subaru diff and an air locker. All are much better designs than this. And my car is quite happy with the old bushes.
Tony N you are quite right that others have previously fitted lockers to their Subaru’s and your build is definitely an inspiration to me! What I am trying to say in this video is that the Torq Locker is the first purpose built Subaru locker. The diff bushes are only known to effect the ratcheting component of the torq locker so this isn’t a problem you would have
Would this work in the center diff or front?
No, this works for the rear diff only. Front and center are a different diff design.
Can you get one of these for a 2022 wilderness forester ?
Yes I believe so. Best to chat with Torq Master industries to see which model of the locker you need.
Would this diff work on a 2022 forester wilderness???
I believe it has already been done. Best to check with Torq Master Industries directly for further information
Will this work on my outback wilderness?
Yes I have seen these fitted to the wilderness models. Contact Torq Master Industries to pick the right locker for your vehicle.
Thanks for pointing this out. I hope for some of your experience somewhere, like in your Offroad Forester Project.
Also hope you know those guys who did swap of diff and their exp. + videos of their car after swap are pretty impressive .. czcams.com/video/rWs-4gk_hBs/video.html
Take care.
nothing good about locker until it will get tested like proper stuck in mud and wheels spining front and back for like half hr non stop , then we will see how good locker is . i heard some of them just braking.
scal man I’ve done a little testing with this now and offroad it has been flawless. I have also never heard of a Torq Master Industries locker breaking, they are a solid unit with good reputation