Is John Cena Actually The GOAT?
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
- It's the age-old debate, whos the greatest to ever do it? For many it's an easy answer Stone Cold, The Rock, Taker, etc... but does John Cena actually have a legit case to be the definitive greatest of all time? In this video I examine Cena's legacy and see, does he really belong in that conversation?
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“So….you think you’re untouchable??”
“Word Life!..This is basic thuganomics!!”
"This is be-Basic Thugonomics"
@@priyanshukatuwal Word life *turntable noises* I'm untouchable but I'm forcing you to feel me
@@methodikul7625 whether fightin' or spittin', my discipline is unforgiven
Got you backin up in a defensive position...
@@musi-con an ass-kickin anthem, heavyweight or bantam
Holdin camps for ransom, the microphone phantom...🔥🔥🔥
Honestly, I would personally yes. He’s simply one of the biggest names in pop culture where almost everyone knows about him nowadays, it’s insane. While his wrestling skills may not be the best, his legendary moments and rivalries during his prime, really made up for it. It’s the storytelling that matters at the end of the day. This man really has done it all. Regardless of what others think of him, I’ll forever love Cena to the bottom of my heart for giving me the most enjoyment as a kid during Ruthless Aggression and PG.
Nope
@@smilinandlaughin then why are u here hater
@@simenzelwedlamini7875 cuz hes a clown
U MUST BE LIKE 13 LOSER!!!
@@smilinandlaughin clown
Is John Cena Actually the GOAT: Yes
Yes
People will argue this forever but if you’re talking only WWE he is the greatest to do it. No offense to Hogan or Stone Cold but Cena carried WWE for years and years whether people like to admit it or not. Being the greatest of all time is more than being a good wrestler.
@@thegame7134 and cena was a great wrestler people don't want to admit this but it is true AJ styles said cena is a great wrestler also AJ's best match in wwe was against cena even though he already faced many great wrestlers like Seth Balor KO etc.
@@thegame7134 stone Cold>John Cena>hulk hogan
Hell no ..Goats are Undertaker. The Rock .Stone Cold .Bret Hart .HBK .Hogan .Savage ..I'll even put Randy Orton b4 Cena jmo🤷🏾♂️
An incredible Wrestler ✔️
A tough man in the ring✔️
A crystal human being✔️
A great teacher and adviser✔️
Hollywood megastar✔️
Fan lover✔️
Loves his work✔️
John Cena is all,an absolute legend. He is the G.O.A.T
Also terrible in ring psychology and a seller the biggest example of that it's his match with miz I quit match when cena got annihilated by miz and still he got up like nothing happened no sold all the beating he was getting😂and there's so cena matches are like that his promos are lame and cringe his thugnamics gimmick was corny and pg era cena is million times worse and no buddy he's not a crystal human being Haha you cena fanboys needs help cena is a terrible human being and many wrestlers siad that in interviews he's a total prick that will bury anyone and a politician backstage he ruined so many people's careers yeah sure he's a crystal human being and give me one story of cena being a tough guy?he's not he's goofy and very nerdy guy
😂😂😂😂 this is a joke right ?
@@RoseyRK no nigga, he is the goat
@@eggzzz01 no kiddo he's not he's one of the most overrated and overhyped wrestlers in history and watch your language next time and if your white don't say that word cus if you said it in public and the wrong person heard you you'll get destroyed
@@RoseyRK all john cena fans are so delusional😂
Now more than ever I understand the comparison to Superman. When we are kid we like them, we think they are strong and cool, when we get a bit older we thinks they are boring and we prefer more edgy and finally when we are adults we realize the importance of their message and value all the work they put in. Superman and Cena makes a lot of sense to me
Wow this is actually true
The man who has given me the most memorable moments of my life Cena has mainstream power, connection to fans, excellent promo guy , good wrestler (in his later years) , achievements for days he's done it all he's a 10/10
Nope
Fanboy
he’s been a good wrestler his whole career, y’all only say stuff like “in his later years” because that’s what everyone else says…have none of you seen any of his matches pre 2011?
@@smilinandlaughin YEAH
*Undertaker >>>>>>> Cena >>>>> Everyone else*
Cena was always a good wrestler. Guys who've wrestled with him always praise his in-ring work and he was safer to work with. The 5 moves of doom were introduced during the PG era, and his moveset was limited. Yes he was big enough to tweak it there and there in which he would in some matches, but Cena has always been "doing what's good for business" and what's good for business was his 5 moves which resonated with his massages like "never give up" and "rise above hate" which essentially means take a beating, then counter and win. The kids were his target audience and during his prime I was in my early teens, I never had a problem with him not turning heel. It would've been devastating with him turning heel because like most kids, he was a Superhero and you can come to South Africa today and you'll find even non-wrestling fans know about John Cena. He is the goat for what he has done for the company. Without him, the wrestling industry probably would've died out.
You broke it down perfectly
Nope. . Cena is top 10 in wwe for sure but not the goat in wwe. The best WWE eras were attitude Era ( 97-01).. golden era( 80's ) and ruthless Agression ( 02-08)...Cena was only the face in 2nd half of ruthless Agression - the weak half of ruthless Agression)..Being a top guy in ra2, pg and rest never makes him goat. In superstar level in ,Bruno Summortino, Steve Austin and Hogan with Rock is a level above him without doubt. Then overall considering everything Taker,hbk, Bret hart etc are definetely above him. Cena is top 10.
@@user-bi5nw4vp6t the weak half? 2005-2011 was peak WWE and Cena was the reason for their global reach. I'm South African and nobody cared about Wrestling until that era on this side of the world. Even non-wrestling fans will tell you who John Cena is, not for acting but for his wrestling. And this was a time where we thought wrestling was real and not choreographed or scripted. We thought they were fighting for real and Cena was a bad ass. You Americans have a tendency of underrating your top guys and i'll tell you this, 70% of the rest if the world thinks John Cena is the goat. Yes he is not a traditional wrestler or his style isn't othordox, but he still is the best to do what he does. He is the Messi of this sport! Doesn't mean there aren't technically gifted players, like Ronaldinho but Messi is the goat, and Cena is the Messi of wrestling.
@@riley_nunez Lol🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣...2011-15 was peak WWE according to whom??🤣🤣🤣.. Wwe was greatest in golden era ( 85-90) attitude Era ( 97-01) and RA ( 02-08).... Even pg era is one weak era only with new generation era( 91-96). Post 2011 its in worst. You don't know anything about WWE history 15 year poor guy. " You thought they were fighting real"🤣🤣 where these kids come from??
@@riley_nunez fucking stupid clown go watch attitude era, dont comment like a kid.
Legitimately he has the work ethic, the character, the connection, the wrestling skills, the chemistry. Dude has everything
Yeah but boring sometimes well most very vanilla in promos kinda cringe , not making or elevated anyone during his reign
Him selling 143 thousand first week and going platinum is still insane for me to think about especially since today alot of artist be struggling to sell even 50 k first week.🤯
facts
Facts I laughed when he said that. It’s awesome to me
Hes got bars man lol he definently did his homework of hip hop. I just seen a picture of him and 2Pac.. never would've even imagined that
I remember when it was cool to hate Cena pre-2016. The internet crucified him for years for being too bland and kid-friendly and while I went through my anti-cena phase in the early 2010s I always respected his work-ethic.
You must been one of the those people who been brainwashed by cenas fanboy good for you you hypocrite
I grew up watching Cena as one of my big favorites so yes he is, hell kids nowadays still loves him.
Looking back, Cena saved pro wrestling. The world was changing into a more pg world. Cena fit the role and he did the best he can to bring wwe into the mainstream media once again.
Did he save it? The ratings are at an all time low, and the current product is the worst ever.
@@codywilson7009being dramatic
@@dantewilliams7458 No, facts.
@@dantewilliams7458 he’s not lol, the ratings after the attitude era dropped drastically
@@theworldisimmense stop it
Vince M him self said that John Cena is the “Babe Ruth” of wrestling.
The thing with John Cena is that he's one of the only two men in WWE to have lost the world championship 16 times
Way to steal rvd's line
Actually Cena is the only person in WWE to lose the world title as Flair (who I’m guessing was the other person you were referring too) only lost the world title in WWF/WWE twice and his others were in NWA/WCW.
John Cena did really well with the fact that he was booed more than he was cheered most night, considering he was supposed to be the biggest baby face. A lot of superstars wouldn’t be able to continue to go out in front of a crowd that booed the living hell out of them and still cut a baby face promo. I will always respect him for that
He was booed because people didn’t want him to be baby face anymore.
So, I have watched the Hogan era, Flair era, The Rock and Stone Cold era, and the Cena era...fans have gone crazy in all of them, BUT Cena has gone above and beyond what any of them created. Cena is absolutely the G.O.A.T. Like him or hate him, you just can't deny that.
Lie. How the hell the ' Cena ' era above Hogan, Austin and Rock era. Please explain 🤣. Attitude Era and Golden era were best.And Flair era..not in wwe..It's Bret- hbk era ( new generation era) 90-96
@@user-bi5nw4vp6t well, alls I can say is opinions are like a$$ holes, everybody's got one. I would call your opinion a lie, but won't stoop to your level. U can't C me anyways
@@kimhatfield7718 Stop crying braindead fanboy like a pig and answer here. How the f** Cena era is better than Hogan, Austin and Rock. Hogan made WWF popular. Before Austin the company was in very poor stage and ratings were 2.something. In his time company grew and when 2000 The Rock time the ratings were 6+. Until 2005 Company was in good stage. They went down with supercena crap and after that it's always going down. Tell me kid how the f** Cena era was better??
He's definitely on the top 5 biggest draws of the last 50 years. Flair, Hogan, Austin, Rock and Cena. Before that it was different and you'd have to count Ed Lewis, Jim Londos, Gorgeous George, Lou Thesz, Buddy Rogers, Bruno Sammartino... it's harder to decide who's the biggest star.
My favourite JOHN CENA moments of all time:
5.returning at MITB face off ROMAN REIGNS☝️
4.Defeating ROCK at WM 2013
3.defeating SHAWN MICHAELS at WM 2007
2.returning at ROYAL RUMBLE 2008
1.winning 16 time world championship defeating AJ STYLES at ROYAL RUMBLE 2017
Rock beat em first tho so🤷🏾♂️ and he nvr beaten Roman Reigns😅 he beat HBK(after peak) and he only won the royal rumble bc they felt bad for em lol
@@80sbaby90sraisedme winning and losing is scripted John laurinaitis also defeated cena, so that means he is better than him?
@@johntitor7357 it's SCRIPTED so makes Cena the goat?!???!?
@@80sbaby90sraisedme GOAT in wrestling means how much you can draw how much merch one can sell.
@@80sbaby90sraisedme Romans fake cancer made audience to cheer.. 😂
I didn't like Cena before. I respected him before that video, but you made your case and it is a strong one, so yes. Yes, CENA is one of the GOATs of wrestling.
Ultimately he's THEE GOAT brother 😭
@@njabulo. Hmm
i agree one of the top 5 for sure but not THE goat.
@@mohammadabdi9178 Hes 16 time champion hes the goat bruh +20th anniversary and he has the most wins in wwe wwe is not wwe without john cena he is the goat twice winner of the royal rumble and mitb
@@p.sedition2920 wins and championships means nothing in a scripted sport. id say austin is the goat. but u can have ur opinion like everyone else
Even if you keep all the wrestling talk aside , he is an incredible human being and a positive role model for so many people , he has done so much good in this world which very few celebrities can claim to do. that automatically makes him GOAT
yup, hes granted the most Make a Wish, wishes of any body ever
@@Jamezy316 absolutely
Exactly the opposite way people should look at this in my opinion... What a wrestler is in their personal life, how much of a role model they are, etc. shouldn't make a damn day's difference on how good of a WRESTLER they are/were. That's so illogical to me. Cena is a great dude. But that has zero to do with wrestling, so that should not impact whether or not he's considered a good wrestler.
Chris Benoit killed his family and himself, so he gets shit on at every turn. Yeah. That was a fucked up thing to do. Does that act make him a terrible person? Yes. But does it have ANYTHING to do with his wrestling ability? Nope. He was one of the greatest of all-time between the ropes, but no one will ever fuckin' acknowledge that due to what he did outside of the ring. That's bass ackwards, man.
@@DLKnightstick1989 so you mean AJ Styles, Rey Mysterio is the goat? It seems like you prefer more technical wrestlers
@@hugo254hcm I personally prefer more technical wrestlers, yes, but I'm not saying they're the overall professional wrestling GOATs only because of that. My comment was more of a knock on the original commenters post mentioning all of the things Cena does outside of professional wrestling playing a part in where he should be ranked. In that same vein, people will discount other wrestlers for negative things they've done outside of wrestling. To be the greatest in my opinion, you need to be good-great in all aspects of pro wrestling: in-ring skills, promo skills, and the ability to get over with the fans, whether that be people cheering or booing you, as long as they're invested in what you're doing.
If we look at all wrestlers mentioned, I’d rate them this way:
John Cena - in-ring: 3 stars, promo: 5 stars, getting over: 4 stars, for a total of 12 stars.
Chris Benoit - in-ring: 5 stars, promo: 2 stars, getting over: 3 stars, for a total of 10 stars.
A.J. Styles - in-ring: 5 stars, promo: 3 stars, getting over: 4 stars, for a total of 12 stars.
Rey Mysterio - in-ring: 5 stars, promo: 2 stars, getting over: 4 stars, for a total of 11 stars.
Other notable wrestlers mentioned in the video’s intro:
Steve Austin - in-ring: 3 stars, promo: 5 stars, getting over: 5 stars, for a total of 13 stars.
Undertaker - in-ring: 4 stars, promo: 3 stars, getting over: 4 stars, for a total of 11 stars.
The Rock - in-ring: 3 stars, promo: 5 stars, getting over: 5 stars, for a total of 13 stars.
Hulk Hogan - in-ring: 1 star, promo: 5 stars, getting over: 5 stars, for a total of 11 stars.
Finally, wrestlers that are often mentioned in GOAT conversations:
Bret Hart - in-ring: 5 stars, promo: 3 stars, getting over: 4 stars, for a total of 12 stars.
Kurt Angle - in-ring: 5 stars, promo: 3 stars, getting over: 3 stars, for a total of 11 stars.
Ric Flair - in-ring: 4 stars, promo: 5 stars, getting over: 5 stars, for a total of 14 stars.
Shawn Michaels - in-ring: 5 stars, promo: 3 stars, getting over: 4 stars, for a total of 12 stars.
Now, obviously all of my star ratings are just my opinion, but they are malleable and I could be convinced otherwise. According to this metric though, I suppose I’m going with Flair as the GOAT.
John cena has accomplished almost every thing in wwe so YES he is the Goat in my opinion.
1.He carried the company on his back for more than a decade.
2. He has the second largest fan following behind the rock.
3. He is a 16th time world championship.
4. Has won 25 championship, 2 royal rumble, 2012 money in the bank.
5. Grants the most make-A-wishes, main eventing wrestlemania multiple times, has the most wins etc and i could go on.
Dude he didn’t “carry the company on his back”. During his run , he had big households like edge , undertaker ,
Angle, orton, kane and others. You dumb cena fans acting like cena did all the work and people only paid money to see him lol. Most likely people paid money to see the wrestlers who were still active from the attitude era like undertaker
We pretty much lost an entire generation of talent in that decade like The Nexus, Wyatt, Ryback...
He never carried company. Wwe is always going down after 2005..Until 10 it was okk but legends like Taker, hbk, Kurt, Edge etc ..were there to make things great. Rock, SCSA ,Hogan made company great. Cena is a top 10 not best.
@@user-bi5nw4vp6t man got his ass burned 😂😂
@@theworldisimmense bro y u crying so much 😂😂
Well, he's miles away from being my favorite superstar, however the guy is a living legend and people doesn't seem to realize because it feels like he's still around, just waiting for his moment, same as ever. Just watch any WWE show now at days and you will see how much Cena used to make the product better. He changed the game and if there's a GOAT, his name is John Cena!
John Cena was the sole megastar carrying the WWE at a time when wrestling as a whole was dying off. Hulk Hogan was in the Golden era and you absolutely have to give him credit, but there was also Rick Flair. Stone Cold and the Rock had each other and they saved WWE-but WCW was also booming. Since the beginning of that super Cena era, wrestling itself was dying due to the decline of cable television, the UFC, and the boom of streaming services that let you watch anything at anytime. He was the guy that kept wrestling afloat, and that combined with his success, mainstream appeal, longevity, and commitment to the craft make him the GOAT in my eyes.
Dude you don't even know what the hell are you talking about tv ratings didn't declined cus of streaming services it's cus wwe product is unwatchable and it's horrible that's why enough of these excuses they declined under cenas hands and it's mostly his fault he didn't carry anything he more like destroyed the business ufc is way more popular than wwe
@@nadirsanchez1675 wrestling as a whole has been dying. You could put prime Monday Night Wars on TV right now and the numbers wouldn’t reach half of what they were during the 90’s. It’s not simply a matter of product it’s a matter of era.
@@stanleylee3329 you are completely delusional😂if you take Monday night wars wcw and wwf and put it now it will be the hottest tv show in the world they will even get more viewers than they did back then cus now there's social media to promote there shows they will get better ratings than ufc most tv shows nowadays sucks you seriously telling me they will get same numbers as now? all those stars in wcw and wwf in there prime again enough of these pathetic excuses If wwe put effort in writing interesting storylines and let every wrestler have a character like they did in attitude era and ruthless aggression era they can get good numbers let me remind you that Sunday night heat and velocity used to get same ratings as raw and smackdown now even wwe ecw did better ratings than today's wwe and aew wrestling is just simply not popular anymore no one cares about it except for the hardcore fans that will watch no matter how bad the show and continue to defend it like there life's depends on it
@@nadirsanchez1675 wrestling as a product is just dying bro
@@HimmyHendryx what I was talking about is cena ruined wwe and wrestling business am not saying it's all his fault but from 2005 to 2018 he ruined and destroyed many people's careers he's not the good person that he and wwe claims to be that's why I hate him cus he's a phoney
I agree with most of the points except for the premise itself: that these are somewhat the criteria to be WWE _wrestler_ GOAT, let alone all of wrestling. If it was a question of whether Cena is wrestling's brand ambassador GOAT, I'd agree. Despite minor media hiccups (e.g. John Xina), Cena is far and away the best poster boy and icon for the company he represents, across any promotion.
pretty much agreed w everything you saying here.
I agree. But you should make a video of the most consistent and reliable WWE wrestler. My money is on Randy Orton. He has been a top guy for 18 years and he's probably going to be for another 10.
Cena was actually a heel from late 2002 - to late 2003 , it’s just not a lot of people know that 🤷🏾♂️
He he wanted to many time after and wwe never gave it the green light
maybe gen z kidz only but that is the only cena I ever liked.
Lets be honest cena is the reason we 2000s kids started watching wwe and if you say otherwise you are probably lying
You are right. I grew up in the 2000s and John Cena was my first favorite WWE superstar. Loved the dude ever since I was 7 yrs old.
@@DBDUndisputed and why y'all saying it like it's a good thing why don't you mention the fact he also pushed away alot of the older fans
@@nadirsanchez1675 I mean, if older fans stopped watching WWE because of Cena, that's their problem and their choice. Some ppl love the guy, some people hate him. It is what it is. Doesn't change the fact that he was a lot of people's favorites, especially younger fans and doesn't change the fact that he was the company's top star for a very long time.
@@DBDUndisputed and yeah that's the problem with he was the top guy of the company for way too long and many many people stopped watching wrestling cus of him and cena himself is not the good person he claims to be many wrestlers in interviews said he is a total prick backstage and he ruined many people's careers he's known for being politician and he will play politics to ruin someone's he dosen't like
@@nadirsanchez1675 then you also know that he has also made a star out of a lot of people too its true that he has buried some people but that number is nothing compared to the people he has made a star out of his US open challenges alone is enough to prove you wrong stop being a cena hater
The real Goat is Cena
no questions asked
He sold more merch than anyone he was part of Mania 28 which still has the highest ppv buy rates he was part of summerslam 2021 which is the most viewed summerslam here in asia he made wwe famous he is the biggest draw of all time and the GOAT along with the Undertaker.
Nope
@@smilinandlaughin These are facts which no one can deny.
@@factteller9640 Ignore em man, they're just saying "nope" to any comment regarding someone liking Cena lmao. Probably a Roman Reigns stan
@@devitt89 even roman fans agree with these facts they are probably blind attitude era fans who hates cena.
@@factteller9640 boreman lames fanboys do disagree
Cena is one of the greatest. One of.
But not the actual greatest, that should only be reserved for Taker -- who not only has the longevity and the accolades, he’s also the greatest character of all time, is part of many of the greatest matches in wwe history, and has captured the most respect out of virtually every fan and fellow wrestler there is. Cena may be more popular outside the business, but within it no one is more influential than the Undertaker, for a longer period of time. Not Hogan, Not Austin, not Rock, not Cena.
I agree with this, Undertaker is known pretty well out of wrestling.
How many movies undertaker done how many commercials has he done 0 he not the goat just a overrated zombie character
@@austinevans4538 Cena may be more known outside of wrestling, but within the business he has neither the cultural significance nor the impact that Taker had that spanned three decades.
I agree to a certain extent but what the hell has the undertaker done to influence people, other then having the most iconic character?
@@austinevans4538 I also love cena but you can't say bad about Taker
i think he's ascended beyond the goat, he's probably the person most identifiable wrestler of all time, when people see or hear wrestling in any discussion John Cena is one of the first people that comes to mind, so yes i 100% he's beyond the greatest of all time
Saying he’s the goat is a stretch. Saying he’s beyond goat status is just a crime
You must have started watching in 2005 bub
@@jasonmarin5634 Exactly, I feel like most people who say stuff like this are just biased because they liked him as a kid. Amazing wrestler and one for my favourites but doesn’t even get Mount Rushmore imo
@@bluecrasher7710 cap
People hatin on John Cena because they jealous of his success John Cena is The GOAT he's on a whole another league when people think of WWE or wrestling John Cena always comes to mind people who doesn't care or watch wrestling know John Cena. John Cena is the GOAT💯💯
Thats a ridiculous question lol. Of course he is. He carried the company for a whole decade as the franchise player, and revolutionized the business in ways nobody else could have. Even when you think about WWE, you still think about John Cena cuz his legacy, impact and work ethic is too immeasurable, and hard to neglect.
Sorry Roman Reigns. You ain't that guy pal! 👀
@@Tavtav66 roman sucks
@@Tavtav66 Reigns nowhere near Cena lmao
@@Tavtav66 cena didn't revolutionize the business at all you cena fanboys are so pathetic and delusional😂if he did will he changed the business for the worst not for the better he's the one who lead to wwe to the pathetic product that it is now so you can't say that's a positive he ruined wrestling business and reason for many people not caring about wrestling anymore
@@Tavtav66 Yeah roman is small time compared to cena
WWE had so many great wrestlers all over the years but The Franchise Player, Doctor of Thuganomics, Leader of Cenation, Big Match John, The Face of WWE - John Cena is undoubtedly the greatest of all time.
Next video idea: "Vince McMahon was insane." Could be interesting, especially if he mentions durag Vince McMahon.
John Cena didn't do that much "Great Wrestling" in his prime bc he didn't need to, Randy Orton says it best "I know the moves I have to do to get them reacting" also the company protected his biggest star by limiting his moves. Prove of his understanding of Pro Wrestling is in his later career since 2015 he has had the best matches of his career. And the words of every wrestler he has shared knowledge with backstage.
actually john can interact with the crowd the whole time bro.
Facts!
I’ll never forget when I tapped out of wrestling and when I came back (older ofc) it seemed like he was being hated outta nowhere and I found myself constantly defending him😂 CENA will always be that guy for me
He is the goat for me he is the reason i started watching wwe when i studied in grade 2 his fued with the rock inspired me to never give up
Cena carried wwe from the unfortunate benoit tradegy and saved them from getting lost in the shadows for me cena is definately GOAT
It’s a good day when there’s a new super kick vid 💯
You love making John Cena videos we love watching them keep them coming
1. Stone Cold
2. Rock
3. Undertaker
4. Cena
5. HHH
Give Austin 20 wrestling years as his Stone Cold character and NO OTHER WRESTLER could even come close to him. But we unfortunately only had prime Austin for around 7 years 😔😔
For real. Stone cold still main events wrestlemanias, cena woulda been on Sunday night heat before Mania back in the late 90s
I think the conversation of the people who are the greatest of all time should involve individuals in the company’s history who have been the face of the company for many years and/or have helped carry the company throughout multiple decades. To me that involves a list of 10 individuals and these individuals have either been main event draws for many years, the face and biggest star of the company, or/and the biggest merchandise sellers. Those 10 men are: Bruno Sammartino, Ricky Steamboat, Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan, Shawn Michaels, Hulk Hogan, Steve Austin, The Rock, The Undertaker and John Cena.
Honorable Mentions:
-Chris Jericho
-Triple H
-Edge
-Randy Orton
-Brock Lesnar
-AJ Styles
-Seth Rollins
-Roman Reigns
One simply cannot call a superstar the greatest of all time without acknowledging the body of work the previous megastars did before them to set up the platform that the megastars had in the future.
Without the mega stars of the 60s 70s and 80s, we would not have the mega stars we see now from the 90s, 2000s, and 2010s. And this is only speaking about the male superstars in the business. The female superstars and who the GOAT is in that category is a discussion for another day :D Please comment who your 10 top would be guys lets have a discussion🤘🏽
I am just grateful for the world of sports entertainment for giving me so many decades of classic matches, characters, superstars and ppvs! Thank You NWA,WCW, WWE, ROH, TNA, and AEW!
Well said sir here is my top 10 wwe superstars
John Cena
Undertaker
Steve Austin
Hulk Hogan
The Rock
Triple H
HBK
Randy Orton
Brock Lesnar
Chris Jericho
Honorable mentions:
-Ric Flair
-Randy Savage
-Andre the Giant
-Big Show
-Kane
This comment alone is GOAT status 💯❤️❤️ I just love sports entertainment period and didn’t even realize it until I read this comment.
"YOU GO WHERE THEY TELL YOU TO GO, I GO SO HARD THEY TELL ME TO STOP, THAT'S PASSION"
-JOHN CENA
I wish he stopped though
John Cena is The GOAT no doubt about that he's sitting on that MT. Rushmore of WWE. John Cena is Chilling and sitting on that top of the mountain💯💯.
Wrestling's last legitimate superstar. If he's not #1, he could be within the top 5 and it'd make sense.
Welcome back!!!
Yes
An easy straightforward answer to your question is a BIG YES!
Change ur name now part time Roman
CENA also made young stars look good, some things you don’t see other mega stars do nowadays!
Yah he lost many matches he's amazing
16 time world champion,2 times Royal rumble winner,money in the bank winner and won few more Titles and also his matches looked so realistic Cena Vs JBL,Orton and Miz (I Quit matches) looked 100% real no superstar in WWE history made WWE look that real. Cena turned into a megastar in an era filled with legends and after all he came from a very poor family background he survived the industry by his own talent there will never be anyone like him he is my childhood hero and yeah he is the GOAT
He is the GOAT without a doubt you can ask any non wwe fans from any country they would tell you about cena I am from India and this guy made wrestling famous here along with the Undertaker, Cena sold the most merch than anybody in the wwe and I never cared about ratings ever since internet came not everyone watched the whole show by sitting in front of tv Internet is there when we can watch that any time also those ratings doesn't include any country other than America and here in India it was at the peak when cena was there also he was GOAT on mic gave so many classic matches and did a lot for wwe.
Happy 20 years GOAT can't wait to see him back in the WWE.
That's an opinion
@@80sbaby90sraisedme He is more famous than anyone here he is the reason why wwe is famous here he is the number 1 merch seller and these are facts.
@@johntitor7357 well if it was a suck thing of "social media" when the other great were wrestling than cena would bvr had been #1 in anything and btw stone cold made wwe more money than cena did ..facts
@@johntitor7357 he's a goat bc he can sale merchandise 🤔😂😂😂🤦🏾♂️
@@80sbaby90sraisedme cena is still the #1 merch seller so how is austin making more money, in fact wwe is making more money each and every year without cena austin rock coz wwe is becoming more famous every year.
Those who counter the opinion of cena being called the goat are just trying to cover themselves hard to tell he is not while literally knowing he is.
Love ur vids bro, here before 100k subs
I agree he made me love wrestling! I smiled so much thank you John Cena! Never Give Up
Clicked & currently watching but heading straight to the comments to put my own answer to add to the public opinion:
Is John Cena actually the GOAT; yes
Cena got to achieve 3 more things! 1. Hand pick a protege 2. Play a match with a young/New star 3. He got to do PPV/Main Event at this age and a few more years later!
What is the obsession with everyone today talking about GOATS? It's becoming insufferable if it hasn't already. The worst part is so many people proclaiming whatever they are seeing right now this second as the greatest despite there being 50 to 100 years of history depending on the sport.
Our opinions match mate! Love your work.
appreciate that!
The thing with the goat conversation is you must define what think being the goat means. For some people it is the best in ring wrestler. For that you are talking about guys like daniel bryan, aj styles, kurt angle. For others it is who was the most entertaining in ring and on mic you have guys like rock, cm punk, shawn michaels. The you have longevity with guys like cena, jericho and orton. But you can also define it as who is the most iconic and then you have hogan, austin, and undertaker. Each definition has a different goat but cena really is the mix of them all and i think that is why he is the goat.
facts! great point
What is iconic about Hogan or SCSA that we cannot say about Cena? Cena is the embodiment of wholesome sport entertainment and the definition of all wrestling eras. The genius of adaptation. An all round wrestler exceeding in any level and challenge put before him.
As a wrestler,
he is among 4 to 5 star match guys.
Top notch promos
Thugo Cena character would resonate well with Attitude Era.
In Cena one can cut all eras. There is Sammartino, Hogan, Austin, Rock, Punk, Styles, Reigns and Taker combined
Agreed
@@kurauonemutimwii2193 Lol ..R u kidding 🤣🤣. Hogan, Austin and Rock all were a tier above Cena. They made company great. Cena was selected as company's face when company was best. And with him when did company go up?? It was always down post 05.
@@user-bi5nw4vp6t I am not kidding. In Sports entertainment whoever is given to carry the Company is selected. Hogan, SCSA, Rock, Brock or Reigns including Cena were all selected.
The basis and qualities upon which they are picked is what matters. Let us check on what qualities Cena was chosen
Cena has great work ethic, very strong and marketable physic or personality, extremely versatile on Mic work both as Face and as Heel and as Tweener. Cena churns out charisma, evokes real crowd reactions from Fans live and on Internet.
A great clean person as a model, humble and nice, merchandise pusher, rate drawing, with great 4to 5 stars epic and iconic matches.
Cena had longevity and reliability. Well you can put your guys on a tier above but that is nostalgic and hater attitude sometimes that inform our opinion on Cena.
But l have followed all those overrated attitude guys and compared their matches and promo work and l have seen more beer hype with promo, insults, beratings and nothing much.
I grew up watching this guy. WWE for me at a point was John Cena. This guys a legend.
Cena needs to comeback for one last nostalgia run and eventually break Ric's record. One final Kurt Angle vs Cena match for Kurt's retirement, a final feud with arch enemy Randy Orton and since Edge wants to retire in Toronto next year, one last Edge vs Cena match for the World Title, hitting 2 birds with one stone, Cena winning his final title breaking Flair's record and Edge retiring in his hometown giving all of us a banger of a match. After that have Cena can drop the title in sometime to someone who truly can be the next face of the company.
John Cena isn't G.O.A.T level he's a level above it's called Cena level
For me yes John Cena Actually the Goat and John Cena as Peacemaker is great and his The Suicide Squad is best DCEU movie snd and can’t wait to see John Cena back in WWE.
Longevity: Cena is the GOAT
Making WWE Mainstream: 2nd behind the Rock
Merch: 2nd behind Steve Austin (surprised rey didn't beat him too with the mask)
Most popular to young audience: Cena again
Wrestling skill: no where near the top 10 he's great but not in that level and I'd say HBK is the best in ring
Reinvention: Jericho
(Personally as a kid I loved the Chain Gang Cena and the Dr of Thuganomics)
On Mic: I'd put him up there but think CM Punk,The Rock,Jericho,The Miz ahead of him
Achievements: up there with Edge and HHH
Character: I'd say undertaker is the only person to beat him
Legacy: He shares the top spot with Hulk Hogan IMO
Is he the GOAT (my opinion):
1.Cena
3.Stone Cold
4.HBK
5.The Rock
6.Hulk Hogan
7.The Undertaker
8.Randy Orton
9.HHH
10. The Miz (might sound ridiculous it's my top 10
Solid top 10 and solid arguments, Miz in top 10 is very questionable though.
@@andraiy644I can't be arsed to write a new explanation on it again but this is a comment I made on a vid about the miz and I just like how loyal and hard working he is:
I don't go around saying this about most people but he really is a top 15 wrestler for me he's a legend and is the most under appreciated wrestler ever.
he stayed while John Cena, Dwayne Johnson left for Hollywood (not a dig at them btw) or when superstars like jericho,hardy,mox and more left for better opportunitiesIn AEW.
He was the best part of smackdown along with AJ Styles in 2016-17 and genuinely restored prestige in the IC championship and made it feel important.
And while he isn't exactly RVD or Daniel Bryan In the ring he's still great and has great knowledge of how to pace matches while connecting with the fans and bieng charismatic
The biggest issue with him is that he's so loyal and never expects more I get that he's not on the level of some main eventers but with how reliable he is and how hard he's worked if he wasn't so compliant I'm sure he'd be a top star on the main event scene just look at HBK. But that could also be viewed as a good thing because he understands his role and understands professional wrestling.
With all this and his charisma on the mic I think he deserves a few more title runs and maybe a world championship run before he has to retire he's one of my favourite wrestlers ever (behind Jeff Hardy stone cold HBK Cena HHH and Jeticho tho) and deserves to be treated as a star
@@kianisherwood9355 Again, you have great arguments but I'm still gonna disagree with you because in absolutely no way I can think of The Miz being better than Chris Jericho, Edge, Kurt Angle, Randy Savage or even Daniel Bryan.
@@andraiy644 true tbf ifni took my time and thought abt it I'd put jericho there but in terms of for wwe I can't really say angle has done more than miz and for the time he has,Daniel Bryan same thing and Randy savage could rival him if it was of all time in any promotion Jay Lethal Angle and AJ Styles would defo beat him and if it was my favourite wrestlers ever Hardy would be number 1 and Edge would be up there Hogan wouldn't even make the list 😂
@@kianisherwood9355 Ok that's fine bro.
Growing up Cena was my hero. The Doctor of Thuganomics and the Super Cena of 2005-07 was the role model i looked up to. I can't even begin to count how many F-Us i have delivered to my little brother and my friends, and do the you can't see me sign. Boy oh boy! Those were the good old days. Cena is not the GOAT but one of the top 5 or 10 for sure. Never Give Up Cena. Personally i will always remember Cena fondly.
No Matter How Much Cena Did,Stone Cold Did or even Rock Did
Acc to Me'Undertaker' is GOAT
LoL 🤣
Same.
Same here
People don't really understand the impact this man had on kids. I just turned 19, which means I spent the prime of my wrestling fandom as a kid watching John Cena in Super Cena mode, winning day in day out. He was my favorite. He was my idol. Still is. And not just about the brilliant moments. It's not just about the titles. It's not just about the wins and losses, the highs and lows, his in ring ability or his unmatched charisma. It's more on how he affected me, especially when I was a kid. You see, Cena effected us differently. He was our Hero. Our Superhero. I lived by his principles all my life. Hustle, Loyalty, Respect. Never Give Up. I didn't realise it as I started watching WWE live less frequently since Cena went part time, but then it hit me when Cena returned last year. I had been living my life by his principles. None of my school friends were Wrestling fans like me, so I could clearly see the difference. John Cena was a massive part of my education and upbringing. He taught me a lot. I was senior most in school last year, definately got a lot of praise and also time to talk to people and give speeches, and people and I myself noticed that I was always so Humble with things, always thanking everyone else and saying I'd be nothing without them, and I was loyal af for things I liked, and for my people. The hustle and the never give up attitude too. The determination. And then last year when Cena returned and talked on the mic, I could almost draw parallels with how the man was speaking. I was literally imitating the man without knowing it all this time. Then was the time it hit me. I would say the man I admire most in my life rn is Lionel Messi, but NO ONE has affected my life more than my true idol, my inspiration, my superhero, John Cena. HLR.
And old heads still don't want to believe us man 😂😂
Bro cena is all and is the goat of pro wrestling there is not doubt
John Cena isn't the GOAT imo, but he's definitely one of them, he is one of the biggest draws of WWE, he is a charisma machine, he is a very good in-ring performer, he is great on the mic, had legendary matches and feuds with the likes of Edge, CM Punk, Randy Orton, The Rock or AJ Styles and has one of the biggest accomplishments in wrestling history. I can't wait to see Cena back. Great video as always. 🔥💪
Great comment. What then makes a Wrestler a goat
@@kurauonemutimwii2193 Thanks
Yes,yes he is
I know 80s and 90s people won't agree but he is the GREATEST OF ALL TIME
They always say Hogan, Flair, Stone Cold and Shawn Michaels.
@@CDodger24 lets face it. Hulk hogan not a great guy, Stone cold not long enough not enough pop culture impact, Shawn best in ring compared to all of them but cena had literally all of these traits that made him the GOAT
@@srv.stf_ "not a great guy" seriously? That's the only nitpick you can say to the man who revitalized a dying wrestling era?
@@srv.stf_ hogan was the most iconic. he was an pretty good face but some great heel work in the nwo. shawn probably the best WRESTLER of all time in my opinion, next to bret and benoit. flair could put absolutely anybody over and was also an amazing wrestler. and stone colds career speaks for itself.
@@CDodger24 he is racist and has done lots of bad things recently
Man I remember when I was around 12 I couldn't stand John Cena. Not because he was a "phony" but because he would never lose. I can't stand superhero type Characters that make BS reasons why he cannot lose like "oh he's simply impossible to kill unless you're a literally god" but as I've gotten older I've softened my stance on the guy because he's just a great person.
After 2007, when the 90s legends started to slow down, he kept wwe racing, week in week out, till the audience started to hate him.
For me, he had the same aura, as some of the other wrestlers I like, so it was easy to connect with him when he was passed the torch, it was the right time, right guy.
How can a person be this wholesome at every aspect of his life from meme to wrestling to acting now to just a loving dude 💖 love cena always
When you really looked into his career then you realized the time the years he spent for the business etc is unmatchable definitely the G.O.A.T !!!
John Cena is the greatest of all time ❤
When I see your notification, press, no questions asked.
Cena is #3 behind Hulk and the Naychuh Boi. What Cena has done is incredible, and he is on their level, but I can't rank him higher than the other two because they provided the massive industry that he inherited, and while it's not his fault, the WWE John Cena passed to Roman Reigns is smaller than the WWE he inherited from Stone Cold and the Rock.
The WWE deserted by Austin and Rock was handed over to Brock Lesnar who also deserted it.
Cena picked it up when it was in desperate state.
It was wrecked again in 2007 aspects of Attitude Era legacy and Cena picked it up, sanitized and saved it to a better level where it was universally accepted and appreciated as family friendly.
That is being GOAT
He truly is the Greatest Of All Time. A heart of gold and a spirit like no other. This is who John Cena is.
Cena is the ABSOLUTE UNDENIABLE GOAT.
The rating went down when Cena was the face of WWE when stone-cold was the face they were getting 7 ratings weekly they couldn't get 2s when Cena was the face of the company
Now I can peacefully say that cena is the greatest of all time
Cena is GOAT 🐐 level easily 💪🏻😤
Facts man
Y’all’s mommas are hoes
Stone Cold is Personally my Goat 🐐 of wrestling but John Cena Is definitely in my top 3 no question
Yes
According to me
1. Undertaker and Cena
2. Stone Cold
3. Hogan
4. Rock
5. HHH
@@factteller9640 mine is…
1.Stone Cold
2.John Cena
3.Undertaker
4.Rock
5.Hogan
6.HHH
@@malone4735 fair enough
From an historical stand point and being actually realistic, Hogan is the Michael Jordan of pro wrestling.
So crazy story when I was younger and Cena was in his prime I got hospitalized and my brain began to shut down doctors would ask me things and I didn't know anything my dad tried to talk to me and I didn't know who he was but then my mom told then to ask me who my favorite wrestler was and I screamed JOHN CENA it was this glimpse of hope that made them aware I was still in here somewhere and a week later I just like woke up and was back to normal so he was so monumental to me that even being so close to death I never forgot him crazy story but I thought it's be good to share here. Also they never did find out what happened to me
What a story bro. The man saved your life. I was 13 when I had to go for an interview at a high school and everyone told me before the time that I should say my parents were my role models, but I said Cena. And he honestly set the foundations in my life that I can be the best at everything and I can do everything I put my mind to
I don't know if he is the actual GOAT but he surely is the ultimate face of WWE in mainstream media. In my country, people have his theme song as their phone ringtone.
Man John Cena is faaar better than Stone Cold Bald Austin and The Rock. John Cena is the greatest WWE superstar of all time.
Cena would be on sunday night heat back in the 90s, wouldn’t even be on raw. Please.
I believe he is indeed the Greatest of all Time. You managed to lay it out perfectly. This man is the Goku of wrestling. The perfect character, who was reliable and super hardworking. And he came at a time when the company would need him the most. I don't believe Rock, Hogan or Austin could've led wwe out of the Benoit tragedy like Cena did. Just by him doing what he did with his squeaky clean character, and the charitable actions, he saved and even promoted wwe's image when the company needed it the most. His matches were also good. He was even able to get a good match out of Khali. And the later years were fantastic. His match against aj styles at Royal Rumble 2017 was in my opinion, possibly the Greatest match of all time. I honestly can't think of a better 1 on 1 match, no interruptions, no shenanigans, nothing-just good wrestling bell to bell. His rivalries were also phenomenal. From kurt Angle, to Booker T, to Jbl, to Big Show, to Hhh, to Shawn Michaels, to Edge, y2j, Randy Orton, Batista, Miz, R-Truth, Dolph Ziggler, Cm Punk, Delrio, The Rock, Mark Henry, Daniel Bryan, Seth Rollins, and Roman Reigns. Cena always made his stories matter, just by opening his mouth. Hogan was great. And so were Austin and Rock. They were all great in their own way, and Roman is great too now, but Cena takes it because of his loyalty to the Greatest wrestling company on earth, his toughness, his respect for the business, his passion, his kindness outside the ring, his consistency and never give up attitude, his epic moments in the ring, and his combined accomplishments in the ring and in the main stream. He is the Greatest, and I'm just thankful that I experienced 18 of those 20years. He made my childhood just a bit more sweeter even though I enjoyed booing him for most of it. But now as an adult, Cena's character makes so much sense to me.
Who cares what you believe
After reading the comments in the reply sections, I can 100% say people just hate him blindly for no good reasons. I think the most haters hate him because he has beaten their fav wrestlers, it surely hurt their ego that how can he beat their fav wrestler. And to be honest everyone want to see their fav wrestler on the top, but hating John Cena blindly for that is just wrong.
Another example could be, when roman start beating all the legends in the wwe like undertaker and was like winning every matches, he was also started getting heat from the audience but soon he loose a bit, he get back to the top. It just that John Cena was doing the same thing for longer period, so the damage on the haters are more.
John Cena also fought to drop his 16 wwe title to Bray at the Chamber
Yes! Yes! Yes!
I never liked Cena and still dont, but cant deny his mainstream appeal. I felt like he was forced upon us like Roman Reigns is right now but the only difference is Cena actually had fans as he was appealing to little kids and Females and that moved numbers. That being said he deserves being in the GOAT conversation but not THE GOAT, that top spot will always be Austin and Hogans Spot.
What year did you see Cena?
Cena wasn't forced like Roman. Cena worked his ass off. The fans grew to like him when Cena introduced his thuganomics gimmick. It was perfect timing. Street ball and rap was at its peak during that time. Hip hop and break dancing was also at its peak. Cena's look and persona was perfect for that time. The fans grew to like him. They only turned on Cena because Cena was always winning. People got tired of him.
Yea, Cena is in the goat convo but Hogan for me is the goat. Hogan made pro wrestling famous world wide. It was because of Hogan's fame that pro wrestling became known here in the SEA area.
@@35PHaaton 2006 and up. WWE had him winning constantly for at least 5 years non stop. But like i said Cena had fans(little kids and girls). But it was kinda of annoying having him win all the time. I like Austin but hogan tops him. Hogan in his time was extremely big.
Haters honestly criticize him for not being heel, well the thing is, he didn't want to be. He wanted to be a superhero like figure for the kids, and he didn't want to upset them by being a bad guy. (I know he was in 2002-2003) If the guy is literally thinking about his fans' emotions, how they could be upset by being a bad guy or something, that's goat status for me, along with his other accomplishments.
After a long time...Make sure that you complete your Jube uploads
Can’t wait for June 27th
Me too man
Who Was Your Favorite John Cena Rivalry???
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Easy, CM Punk.
@@andraiy644 haha no cena vs randy defines cena
Cena vs edge Is cena best feud
@@edgeisthegoat That guy asked for opinions n' unfortunately you can't handle other opinions. 👽
Edge for me.
@@edgeisthegoat That's your opinion.
I'd take Cena over ANYBODY on the current roster today, but let's not forget. Guy was still being shoved down our throats from 2005-2013. Cena from 2016-now is the Cena we have WANTED for a long time now. That force feeding contributed to "achievements, pop culture, and longevity." Those of us that have watched wrestling for over 25 years know the goat is defined as someone who's gonna do the absolute best job to put my ass glued to a seat & eyes glued to the t.v, and those guys were Austin & Rock, regardless of their longevity or accolades.
Macho man needs to be in the talks with Cena, Hogan, rock and Austin
Cena literally changed the fate of wwe like austin and the rock did
austin and the rock or attitude era in general didnt let wwe go bankrupt... saved wwe from wcw made wwe the bigget pro wrestling company ever
and then john cena after the benoit incedent he carried wwe to the new audience... the disgraded image of wwe was changed to new children by john cena... he is really really underappriciated for what he did for wwe
if cena wouldnt be there maybe wwe would not have been as relevent as it is today
he made many many many and i mean MANY eye balls turn to wwe.... the new generation of superstars will have john cena as their idol (as we see austin theory) he had impact on wwe just like steve austin, the rock and all
He’s my G.O.A.T but that’s a subjective thing wrestling is completely subjective so I don’t really get this question lol there’s no quantifiable way to judge that in a worked sports entertainment
Can you actually please do a video on outside wwe goat wrestlers like omega, ospearay, Okada, kota etc
Before I watch the video... YES. periodt! Cena was AND IS STILL our childhood hero has carried the company much better than the Rock and as good as Austin throughout these two decades 🔥😭