DAMASCUS FAIL: FORGING DAMASCUS STEEL FOR GREENBEETLE
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- This video was filmed a while ago - I just found out that while Greenbeetle was making his knife from the billet, there was a weld fault where the forge welds didn't take! Noooo! :( oh well! I'll make him a new billet as soon as possible!
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Alec Steele Blacksmith 2016
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OH NO! The Damascus billet failed! Greenbeetle discovered a large area where the weld didn't take! Hopefully this doesn't happen on the next one I send him. Sorry for your wasted effort, Greenbeetle!
Refreshing to know that even masters like you are capable of mistakes!
+Monster I'll never be a master at anything other than making mistakes!!
Alec Steele they're not mistakes, just opportunities to learn where we may have gone wrong
I completely agree, any mistake is also a new opportunity to learn. Everyone makes mistakes. Masters take those mistakes and learn from them. From all the videos I have watched of yours, you are a master. Never deny your degree of expertise, you (i know from watching) always admit your mistakes, but I have yet seen you repeat a mistake. BTW, the pattern was awesome.
It's beautiful damascus, even more so in person than in this video believe it or not. I'm honored you would take time to send me another billet.
After reviewing the photos he sent me and the video again - the billet failed at the weld where I drove the fuller down into the material to suck down the pattern! Interesting! I think most guys cut the billet in half completely to better get in there and clean the welding surfaces. I'll do this next time to see if I get any better results! :)
Wow! I couldn't believe you guys were collaborating before I sent the message to both of your guys channels!!! So cool seeing two of my favorite channels coming together
I'll say it with a quote:
"Good judgement comes from experience and a lot of that comes from bad judgement"
Arthur
"The Mechanic" movie ☺
regardless of a failure young man you inspire me I watch you all I can I just discovered smithing I'm in love with it and wish I would have found it in my youth you have a bright future ahead of you keep going I'll be watching and learning
Yeah I saw it... Hipster glasses my rear end, those are high speed-low drag prescription impact resistant glasses or as we called them in the military: BCGs (Birth Control Glasses)...
AAR
PS: 3:13 for the rest of you!
+Albert Rasch Ahahahaha!!!!! That is fantastic! Glad you like my BCGs ;)
Ahh, the dreaded BCG's....
Your editing is really on point. The music while you forge, the dialogue/comentary, slo-mo, and sound levels throughout; seriously well done, sir!
+KrazeeeOne Thank you Sir!
The pattern is beautiful despite the weld failure. If I find another video of yours I'd give it a watch again!
Ah! I was just scouring Greenbeetle's channel to see what he did and I see from your comments that it didn't work out. It still looks beautiful. I'll be excited to see what you guys do with round 2.
I have a lot of fun watching your videos. Damascus is truly an art form.
Always remember where you come from. Awesome to see Alec was always humble and a creator from the beginning! Hespect!
Thank God for those damn hipster glasses if you saw that
This video is also a testament to how much more organized your shop is now. Look at the disarray your shop use to be in😉
+Tim Worden My workshop is heaven on earth compared to this!
Incredible work....even though part of it failed, that is an unbelievable pattern, it is art!
Самый красивый узор дамаска. Просто шик. Браво!!!
Super usefull that you comment and tells about the process. I miss that in a lot of your other videos.
Amazing how these old videos show how far you've come in forgings and video making
welding a bar stock handle onto the billet from the beginning makes it easy to control, especially when it starts to get thin and hard to grab with the tongs
You put the carbon steel on the outside, because it welds at a slightly lower temp.
After the initial weld of the stack, you will only be welding carbon steel together from there on.
I gives you a wee bit more time and temp range to weld at.
If you have a weld failure, it's usually going to happen on the stack weld in the center area of the stack.
You need to soak it really well, it's the most critical weld of the process..
Those solo mo with the sparks were super cool
I'm continuously impressed by the quality of your work and drive to produce. It's a rare combination.
If you're interested in a challenge and accessing a new viewer group, maybe try making a damascus tube for a rifle or shotgun barrel. Lots of guys have knowledge of reaming and rifling pre-drilled bar stock blanks, but seems there aren't any gunsmiths or blacksmiths that can make damascus barrels anymore. Spiral or straight seam welds were both used - I'd imagine a spiral weld would look better with damascus. As long as it's straight any imperfections can be reamed and filed out.
You'd also be safe from any particular laws regarding firearms manufacture as the tube isn't considered a firearms part in any country until reamed, rifled and fitted with a breech plug. If it was finished in North America - Canada especially, there are no laws regarding proofing, that would require special consideration like in the UK.
Anyways, as always I enjoyed the video.
+H Wal. I absolutely love the idea! I think it would be a wonderful experiment. So I was completely within all interpretations of the law - if I were to do it I would leave a portion of the barrel blocked however!
Great video as always. Love the up close hammering and the creativity. Soooo Professional.
Your channel has come along way... wow.. I'm impressed by your progress to continually put out better quality shows.. hats off to you
yes! green beetle is the only other person i follow that does steelwork
all I've been watching is your videos
No mistakes, just lessons. Old forge in old layout workshop. Try again for sucess 👍
I love your videos! Good to see a young guy doing this.
+Ken Evans Thank you so much Ken!
Awesome, as a beginner knife maker I would love to purchase some Damascus steel to try and make something pretty out of it, it's on my one day list!
Wow- nice pattern Alec
use a mid to high grit on the plates before welding them together, nothing to drastic just until they're shiny. should help
Love the channel. One suggestion if I may...instead of welding a handle onto your bullet, why not hammer out a long rod of 1080 nice and flat and simply incorporate it into the bilet, that way you eliminate the possibility of dissimilar inclusions
KenworthCowboy that's a good idea
Love that pattern beautiful
How come I only saw this video now?
I've been a fan of alec for ages
Your vids are THE vids.
wow, that is a beautiful pattern!
Hey alec great video the billet is really beautiful. I appreciate your workvery much. You should cover you ceramic wool completly in refractory cement or clay. The fire blows constantly small cancerocenic fibres into the air. I want you to be healty your entire life :D
greetings from germany, keep it up ;)
I've watched a lot of your newer videos. You are a lot more fluid and comfortable then you were. Good job. How can I get one of your creations. Like that axe on the wall near your white board.
I just subscribed a few weeks ago, and yes I found your channel from watching green beatle's channel.
Great to see the project's you both create.
you make some beautiful pattern welds man
one of the reasons i don't use my pattern welded for knives. ..by the time you get the knife to a place to see the fail you have so much time invested..
My Blacksmith mentor.. 😘😘😘
That Pilkington that Pilkington. I want one
Bloody marvellous 🤘🏻😂👍🏻👍🏻
sorry it delaminated buy crap happens but we grow and learn from our mistakes those that don't never learn or advance great video keep em coming thanks
+Wade Stewart Thanks Wade!!
Ooooooooo a collab!
Thank god for those damn hipsters glasses! Nice save.
And this looks like an older video. I.e. You shot it a while ago and are just know posting it.
+Trench Forge Armory that's correct - early October!
Alec Steele There's nothing like forging hot steel! Rock on brother!
Really i love your work
Love your work !!
Ah, that stinks!!! What a cool design of Damascus though!
have you ever considered wet forging? it seems like a great way to remove scale
Alec, you should make a kukri knife
So, given where you believe it failed, would the solution be to, once you have run the fuller in, cut the two layers completely apart, forge the two pieces flat, clean, stack and then weld? Or possibly just chemically clean out the fuller area and then flux it as soon as it is hot enough for the flux to stick, to forge the gap closed?
It's a fairly common issue. Generally a well fluxed fold is adequate. But as in all things in life, it becomes easier as you gain experience! But either solution would work.
AAR
ما تفعله جميل للغاية GREENBEETLE
very cool
bravo
You should go on the forged in fire champion show you would put them all to shame
I don't think the contest is open to non-US citizens and I'm pretty sure Alec is a Brit.
Plus I thought exactly the same when Walter Sorrells participated in it (also a youtuber knifemaker, smart and experienced) S3E14
One of the difficulties of the challange is controlling your heat treatment in an unknown forge, that is also brightly lit, so the cameras can get good shots. Notice how Alec keeps his workshop dim, allowing him to more accurately tell the temperature of his steel. Also oftentime there's some sort of mistery steel involved, which is a big unknown.
the music on this episode is really nice! where can i find it???? love your work as always Alec!
LOL how did i miss it.. its in the descriptionnnnnnnn haha thanks anyways!
you should make a online store for the things you make
:(
would you make the same stuff again? I kinda enjoy watching your interaction with other knifemakers.
How many times daily do you stick your fingers into the outlets to get your hair like that.
merhaba kardeşim türk burgusu yapmanı tavsiye ederim. eminim çok hoşuna gidecek. çok yeteneklisin
awesome content Alec I love your videos and your format I finally remembered to sub keep up the good work man
I'd love to know what the second song is. I have to hear more from the artist!
A shame that Damascus didn't hold together it had a beautiful pattern it sort of looked like feathers.
Hey you win some and lose some but nonetheless great try Alec and great video!
Thank God for those damn hipster glasses!! :)
Cool ....no.....it is ...a very cool
where are you from? Your accent is English with twangs of others but I see the stars and stripes plus the lone star flag in the back ground....
you have wicked Hi-def videos man! what camera rig are you using?
got a new sub! that design was epic!! a few things I was wondering what is it your doing wrong to have such low subscribers and Views cuz your videos are awesome you're doing a great job keep up the good work. I was wondering how long you've been smithing for? Im new getting into smithing, was curious how you went about setting up your ventilation cause that's my main concern Winters here are very cold can't forge with doors open. also how did you acquire your power hammer? because that's the next thing I want to purchase seems like it's a must. it takes forever to do what you did by hand lol. your camera views/skills are on point keep up the good work buddy!! I need to learn how to make videos like you. how many camera are u running at once? thanks!!
+Larry Allard Thanks Larry! I've only just got my ventilation sorted out. I bought a metal dust extractor, a wood dust extractor and a ceiling mounted air filter. It works well. I bought the power hammer from eBay and I tend to shoot just with one Panasonic gh4 camera!
Alec Steele I saw you had one over the forge. maybe of your bored one day u can shoot me a small private video of your ventilation. what did you pay for that power hammer ? there so damn expensive haha. crazy you do all that with 1 camera. got skills thanks for getting back too me
Love the vid man 😃😃😃
Sick.pattern!
(Sees this among recommended videos.)
Me: Who the hell is this guy? I swear, CZcams keeps pushing weird stuff on me.
(Watches video anyway.)
Me: Huh, this is actually really entertaining.
+Fervidor Thanks man!
I suppose all that's to be done is to learn from the mistakes and improve on the next one.
Beautiful pattern, though.
What type of steel for each layer you are using to forging damascus?
I cannot find the video that Greenbeetle made with this. Can someone please post a link?
+Clayton Firth he didn't make one since the Damascus failed!!!
***** Ah... Thanks. It would have been kind of nice to see the video even if it did fail. As much can be learned from failure as from a successful build!
Does 3M not sell welding gloves in pairs?
what's the song playing during the chopsaw scene?
did it fail in greenbeetles vid? I didn't see a fail in yours!
Did you leave the mill scale?
6:46 would have been better if you stuck yet another type of steel that oxidizes differently from the other two and sandwich it together like you did.
cool cool coolcoolcoolcoolcoolcool
Ok, so I'm kind of new to subscribing and following youtube channels. I'd like to see what Greenbeetle made but I can't find it on his channel. I see that the link to what he made is right there on this video, but it's below the player controls so I can't get to it. AAARRRGGG!!!!
dont think it ever happened , think it had a crack in it ?
Your hair looks like Guile from Street Fighter.
Thank god for the hipster glasses
what metals did you use for that damascus?
you just got a new subscriber...ME !
this mans hair
came to the comments section looking for green-beetle's video/follow up to this video...
is there a follow up? Now I can't tell... >_>
Flux WTH
Brits don't flux! You've been Americanized.
Thank God for those damn hipster glasses!
5:05 - 5:13 So grinders spin the other way in the UK? Just like the toilets? :)
I think it is reversed in editing
It is probably time for another greenbeetle collab -
Thank God for those damn hipster sunglasses
Thank God for those hipster glasses.
"THANK GOD FOR THOSE DAMN HIPSTER GLASSES IF YOU SAW THAT!"
I cant seem to find the video..any idea what the name is exactly?
thank god for those damn hipster glasses, it might be time to upgrade the protection rating
Thank god for those Damn hipster glasses!
it looks like a spine
"Thank god for those hipster glasses"
Thank goodness for those damn hipster glasses.