is a Tomato a Fruit?
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- čas přidán 27. 05. 2024
- There's been a lot of discourse, surrounding what a fruit is. Many people prefer to use a strict scientific definition, but that's not ANYTHING compared to the number of people who wan't to use something they THINK is a scientific definition but actually isn't anything. But this channel was founded on the premise that people wouldn't be wrong as often if they sought out information on subjects they were arguing about. Here's my take on whether a tomato is a fruit, not just Botanically, but Semantically.
0:00 Introduction
0:39 The point of defining things
1:54 Standard Definition of a Fruit
2:11 Seeds and the Anatomy of a Flower
3:14 Is a Juniper Berry a Fruit?
3:40 Ovaries
4:23 Is a Strawberry a Fruit?
4:51 Fleshy and Dry fruits
5:22 Is a Strawberry a Nut?
5:59 Berries and Drupes
6:28 Is a Coconut a Nut?
7:01 Is an Almond a Fruit?
7:37 Absurdity of "Scientific" Definitions
7:54 Wisdom and Intelligence
I hate this argument so much. If we're going to go by the botanical definition of "fruit", we'll have to accept that cucumbers and pumpkins are fruits while apples, strawberries and pineapples aren't. What is socially accepted as a "fruit" is just parts of plants, usually sweet, that we vaguely agree to call a fruit, so anything can or cannot be a fruit as long we agree about it. So basically it depends on what the general opinion is, which is OBVIOUS for anything which is defined by common sense, like the social definition of a fruit. Haven't watched the video yet but I'm tired of anyone trying to formally define something that by definition depends on common sense
I was confused until I read that you havent watched it- yeah, you basically agreed with me wholeheartedly on every point
How’d you like the video?
The inside of the apple has the fruit so you might as well call the entire apple colloquially as fruits.
I have no qualms of calling a strawberry as NOT a fruit.
@@abhiramn474 That's right, YOU have no qualms. Your qualms are personal to you, and that's exactly my point: a definition that relies on people's personal opinions cannot be formalized.
What's "common sense" to you might not be "common sense" to another person.
all my friends call me a fruit
the joke is that i kiss women.
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@@valentinaaugustina lucky
This also means that I can say “I am depressed” to mean I am very sad, even though I don’t have clinical depression as depressed in general means “low spirit” well before the concept of clinical depression was conceived.
In portuguese we distinguish between the botanical and culinary meanings with the gender sufixes, so:
fruta = fruit (cooking)
fruto = fruit (biology)
And people still say that tomato is a fruta
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when somebody tells me tomato is fruit, i tell them define me what is a tree then
Anything made of wood and larger than 10 feet in any dimension. Next question
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Nix v. Hedden, yep, thats was a real court case
Look, there are two definitions of fruit, the botanical definition and the culinary definition. Accept that. When someone asks if tomato is a fruit, say: botanically, yes. Culinarily, no. Nobody will argue with you.
People struggle with crisp versus fuzzy categories and how a single word can simultaneously be both 😊
0:57 Is this an error, or do I not understand? You used cringed as the verb example, but the word we were examining is cringe.
Verbs can do this thing called 'conjugation' where they change their form depending on stuff. For instance, verbs can form what's known as the 'past tense', where most of them get the ending -d or -ed to mark it. Conjugated forms of verbs are not considered to be separate words from their dictionary forms (lemmas), so 'cringed', the past tense of 'cringe', is just a different form of the word 'cringe' and not in itself a different word.
@@AnonYmous-jp3qd Ah, that is my problem. I understand conjugation (though I consider conjugated forms to be separate words, and I didn't know others didn't), but I was thinking of -ed as forming possessional adjectives, and forgot about everything else it does. But thank you for taking time out of your day to describe conjugation!
You should also check out the philosophy of language.
You know, philosophers like Ludwig Wittgenstein.
If it belongs in a fruit salad its a fruit, regardless of botanical definitions.
Yeah but the botanical definitions are still cool
@@zzineohp absolutely
Sure, but is hydrocodeine an opioid or an opiate? 🤔
This is hilarious.
Fruits and vegetables are dumb categories.
I either go with what people around me say or with this simple distinction I learned in school;
Fruits are sweet and juicy with seeds.
Vegetables are by contrast the opposite; hard and dry without any seeds.
So by my personal definition, a tomato is a fruit but by colloquial usage of these two categories they might as well be vegetables because they're both pointless anyways.
Tomatoes are tasty.
I call tomatoes fruits, not because of some false botanist, but because I am enlightened by my own palate
@@zzineohpI see that you come up with aphorisms in your free time!
@@lilemont9302 when i'm not eating raw tomatoes
Depends on the model. Remember that models can be wrong but still useful.
Tomatoes aren’t vegetables, but culinarily speaking they function like a botanical vegetable, so we call it a vegetable.
what
Coming from a native language where "fruit" (collective, sweet) and "fruits" (plant parts) are completely different words, this argument is almost incomprehensible and completely banal at the same time. Even in English with, you know... HOMONYMS!
Tomatoes are not fruit, but they are fruits.
Uh, wait, so does Descriptivism means that there are no grammar rules to English? Does that mean I could say "me am good" and there would be NOTHING wrong with that? LMAO, you linguists really suck at your job! LOL!
thats the whole point of defining things 😭
Are you new to English? There are no rules here. Me am good at English.