EXCLUSIVE | In conversation with former Botswana President Ian Khama
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- čas přidán 22. 04. 2022
- President Cyril Ramaphosa has denied suggestions that South Africa is harbouring a fugitive from justice in the form of indicted former Botswana President Ian Khama.
Khama has been in South Africa since late last year and faces 14 counts relating to the illegal possession of firearms with three other suspects in Botswana.
The four are facing combined 52 charges related to the alleged theft and unlawful possession of firearms. Our efforts to get comment from Botswana Police and Prosecution Authority have been unsuccessful.
However, we are trying to get comment from the Botswana High Commission in South Africa.
SABC News International reporter Khayelihle Khumalo is in conversation with former President Khama.
For more news, visit sabcnews.com and also #SABCNews on all Social Media platforms.
You father was a hero in Botswana and he fought hard for Botswana for them to enjoy the freedom they have now. 🇵🇬🇵🇬
I stand with Khama
I'm with you president Ian Khama.
Calm, articulate and genuine. There’s no need to forced him into exile after he led the country peacefully.
Ian Khama is a democratic leader.
There’s nothing democratic about Botswana and their leaders. Botswana government is nothing but a puppet of imperialist USA. It’s the only country in SADC if not Africa with USA army base in its country. Also, Botswana army killed Namibians who were in the Chobe river for absolutely no reason.
Indeed
Masisi is a frightened little boy
How can our Kgosi be anything else? His mission in life as the defender of his people is just that to defend, lead, protect, provide and represent. As a Motswana, he understands what democracy is. Its not about the ballot. Its about the King liasing with his people and bringing all to the seat at the table to deal with problems and come up with solutions.
@@the8thchurch461 by by CT
why is no one talking about the bad sound quality
Annoying
President Khama I salute when I see you. You are a true symbol of resistance. If only Botswana could kick out American army base. Look what is happening in Ukraine.
And who do you think will attack Botswana?
@@christopherkgalaeng9003 world politics brother.
@@clivemalunga6061 You are correct my brother.All these guys who have chosen politics as their careers,can't be trusted.
This should teach you guys that every former president there's always a problem with
Why should it be like that. Don't you smell self hate kindled by foreign people to prove that Africans can't rule themselves. Someone is behind this embarrassment to all former presidents
@@muchachandra3938 most of the time it's their cabinet ministers or their vice presidents
What a humble soul, it's sad to see how President Khama is ill treated by Botswana government, especially Masisi! President Khama led people of Botswana with diligent, hence he doesn't deserve this type of treatment! People of Botswana must defend President Khama. Masisi is a EVIL man! The Khama family don't deserve this!
Same man who called Mugabe unspeakable names! 😎
Mugabe deserved every name and even more.
Mugabe killed thousands stayed in power for 40years so lets not paint him as a hero.
@@khaliphaniphugeni297 but now charges and accusations against Khama makes him look alot more worse than Mugabe
He was dead right. Mugabe was disgusting just like Mnangangwa
Was he wrong to speak up about human rights violations in Zim.?
Great leader indeed I salute you
Khama has blood of many Namibians on his hands, he rejected Mugabe and have never been a pan African..We owe him no sympathy
He is the only African leader who called out mugabe on human rights violations, is that a crime? How many people died under mugabe regime?
All pan-African Presidents have been ruthless dictators. We don’t want more of them.
❤ you sir
This is why african presidents are reluctant to leave office but prefering to die in office because of this corruption thing which is allowed to thrive unabatted. I feel for Khama, he sounds so genuine n believable.
Don't be abrupt to believe him, the guy fled before he could even be questioned.
But he is not
Bro, This is the worsed president we ve ever had in Bots trust me. He talks of democracy like he knows anyrhing about it.
@@tendanipelaelo6293 so tell us the truth
This is very sad in deed. He sound very believable
He is not telling the truth.
He wants sympathy but it’s all foul cry.
🤣😅Nothing is impossible with African leaders,let him go back and explain to the court in Botswana 🇧🇼
@VERBAL SLAYERR 😳🤣🤣🤣
Let him go explain in court and be deemed innocent.
stay safe Kgosikgolo go ta hela 🙏🤞Long Live kgosikgolo
South Africa should bring back that fugitive.
Weapons must be kept and owned by anyone wishing to do so providing they're licensed &legal
not those kind of weapons
In our republic they are regulated. This Khama guy thinks he is above the law.
@@rikoruavihengari4661 Which country are you from?
@@naomivantonder5344 🇧🇼🇧🇼🇧🇼🇧🇼
This nonses of carrying a gun its bullshit luk how south africans kill each other wth those guns
Botswana is not one family owned.
Brazen o dithupa hlera and Gao swabe le gone🤦♂️.. Ore Sega tsebe mr
My President I salute you!
This puts into perspective the current embargo by the Botswana Government of certain fruits and vegetables from South Africa.
As a Zimbabwean, I really hope that people like Mokgweetsi Masisi will not succeed in unravelling the few democratic and free countries that we have on our continent. This is just a small taste of how it starts. I hope that South Africa won't bend to Masisi and I hope that all the democracies in Africa will support Botswana at this critical stage. From just watching this interview, Botswana is in serious danger. And if anyone thinks that it's merely a Botswana issue that only affects Botswana, you'd be mistaken. Corrupt and Undemocratic regimes often have an infectious effect on their neighbours. Trust me, you do not want to be surrounded by regimes that are corrupt and undemocratic when your country is free and democratic.
You clearly have no idea about Botswana. The Khama family and the tribe which they are from were the puppet leaders of Botswana allied to the whites and they oppressed other people they now this idea that they could control Botswana and it’s resources for their own benefit. Masisi is on the way of that.
D to
SA, must intervene. If Botswana becomes a craphole like Zimbabwe and Mozambique, Namibia and South Africa will suffer.
Zim is like that because SA has adopted the same type of quiet diplomacy as it is doing on Botswana now.
@@mdarawangu4625 please Zim is like that because Zimbabweans allowed it. South Africa didn't allow anything. Zim a sovereign state
@@thetad1242 you dont know how politics works. Why are SA politician's always pointing at imperialism amongst other things. Whether you like or not SA is run by the same imperialistic forces that you are turning a blind eye on .
@@valentineisraelshabangu4069 no I know that Zim is it's own country. They Zimbabweans need fix their country. Blaming SA for Zanu is crazy
@@thetad1242 They refuse to take accountability. I do not even reply to these people anymore. They are so educated but can't vote out Zanu-pf.
I believe this old man an not forgetting to mention that his very articulate.
Come on, you mean you only listen to one side of the story and you abruptly believe? Wait till you get the other side then thereafter you make a conclusion, that is how things are done in the grown - ups world
He is a wealthy white man so of course he is articulate.
@@luckymonau7426 english is his mother tongue, what do you expect
@@the8thchurch461 White? He looks black to me though not as dark as majority of us
@@Joe-tr2vk You know what I mean. Part white and therefore privileged because of it. He received top education at a military training college called Gordonstoun in England where prince Charles was a student, so......
Khana seems to be making up stories now. He doesn't want to be charged in a similar court as other Batswana. Who does he think he is
He looks innocent because he is lite skinned but he in his heart is house full of negetive rebellion...
What are you about?!
A Well spoken president of the Batswana.
I like the way he speaking English
Me too.... 👌🏽👌🏽
De dude got white mother
Yes and he did his school in UK
President Khama, avoid name calling on other head of states! It will back fire on you.
Mmmmm I agree but Mugabe was a pain.
Africans with with a dictatorship tendencies, I understand everything this man had said on this interview, we once had a dictatorship leader in Nigeria back in the days, and we know how the operates by using state institutions like military, police, and all Arms of fo in to kill any perceived enemies, so everything he said here is facts
This man was a dicator
This guy called Khama killed people in numbers under his rulership, he is a fugitive running from the arm of the law, he won't last though.
I watched a documentary about his father...i hope he hasn't deteriorated the opposie direction from his blood line
Nna I think Kgama is great man. I want Kgosi and he protected him that’s the only problem I have with him. Kgama heart is always with Botswana and Batswana.
No Mpho, khama just like evry politicians is all about keeping the status quo that is keeping his family in control of everything about Botswana, imagine state house, military tenders all that were awarded to the Khama family even a top position in Debswana for sister in law. As a well educated Motswana it is very concerning that a single family was almost controlling everything in Botswana no matter who was the president.
Khama was not great man he killed Kalafatis family & Gomolemo Motswaledi.
@@facts4157 I also I agree with that. I grew up with John. Maybe that’s him haunting him. 😂
@@kamogelomosweu1869 you maybe right. Coz I’m a motswana that live abroad. So y’all know more than me. I’m just judging him from a distance
Never poster.
Come back home then
SKI sounds believable on this clip, but if you listen careful he makes a reference to his father forming the BDP , and his previlages on that regard. He and Masisi had a plan for his brother Tshekedi to be appointed the vice president after Masisi became president. He also wanted Masisi to allow him to fly BDF planes after retirement which was against the constitution. He also expected that his corruption under DIS boss Kgosi will be covered as well. According to their arrengement he was to continue campaigning for the BDP as a pay back for the benefits. They went on to change the constitution to allow the ex - president SKI to continue working after retirement, which lead to him SKI forming a PARTY after his promises were not fullfilled by his excellence Masisi just before elections. This lead to a rift that we see today. It is all politics and the failed strategies and relationships between the two in achieving what one can call a master plan or the BDP and the Khamas rule and power. It has now become a mouse and cat game, but the whole saga is going to cost the republic governance.
You shouldn't have commented in an international platform because what you said is not true,which section of the constitution do you know,stop lying you know nothing,just drink tea its fine.
Exactly. He sounds so believable and articulate. But this is just someone betrayed or rather prevented to corrupt a Nation further.
Khama was a great leader. Botswana government should not do this please 🙏
Legwala....a former commander of the Botswana defense force running away from a former school teacher neh 🤔
🤣🤣🤣🤣 A commander running away from civilian
@@omphileselaledi4049 A civilian commanding an army is a commander,lol
which Botswana is he talking about. we still the same people we were even during his rule. We unhappy about the same things we were unhappy about during his rule. The only unsettling thing is this personal war he and the president have. And it's not because we on his side. We just don't want to be caught up on things we don't know. Because really we don't know why they fighting. What they promised each other is btwn the two of them. The political influence he speaks of is in one very small part of the country. And it's because his family are chiefs there. Otherwise we don't take him and his party too seriously. So how is a threat. Yes we need a stronger opposition in the country. An alternative. But from where I stand his is far from a choice.
We the ordinary people don't know the shinanigans behind the scenes....
I believe him, he is so sincere.
There's what is called three sides of the story, your usual two sides and the truth. You don't only listen to one side and then immediately believe it, there are two sides that have not been presented.
He is being economical with the truth.
Ian Khama knows his story
Lying like this should be reported to CZcams.
I couldn’t agree more
Very articulate...abreast with wisdom...pragmatic...used to be patriotic bout the country..
Nice and elaborate Interview
You will only fool fools
In Botswana you are not allowed to own weapons,, just tell people that you instructed the police commissioner to register those weapons for you unlawfuly ,, that is why he was also arrested and charged.Just come back home, jail is waiting for you.
You had your time in office hence should allow Masisi to do the same...stop interfering in Botswana politics.Retire in peace.
Lets pray for this man
It's sad to see another African Dictator is now in charge of Botswana. Stay strong. You were an outstanding President for Botswana over 10 years and ended your term with grace.
Look back
He didn't thank the president for his time, ended quite weirdly
Just one thing for sure, crime and rape has increased tremendously the last 2 years. Why is that?
Bullsh*t
Owaekh!
Holding him hostage AGAIN?
It didn't work the first time.
How can you accuse a former president of such a crime, the former president's father was a president. We need to respect our elders and deal with accusations in a respectful manner.
What? Are you for real?
Ok
Former President Khama is an eloquent speaker. I love the way he articulate himself.
Yah neh
Only in English, he can't speak setswana properly or any native language.
I mean he is half white
Wait until you hear him speak Setswana.
Because he has repeated this story a thousand times. On issues that matter, he often has the articulation of my 5-year old.
look after yourself. plz
What goes around comes around
The man things he is the only capable leader,I am surprised with how he was treating foreigners during his tenure and now he is south Africa😂
Answer the question. You failed to remove Masisi not the Bdp. Return to Botswana tell the court that and no individual is allowed to own weapons of war in Botswana.
Hypocrite of note
Kgosiekgolo. Omorena!. Dammmitti!!
I guess it’s not fun when the rabbit got the gun
Problem is you think BDP is your family property.
I believe him. He sounds very genuine
He is not genuine.
Kgosi Kgolo Modimo o teng gota siama
Wolf in sheep's clothing this one
I'm a Zimbabwean based un Turkey and I can vouch for President Ian Khama. He is one of the few presidents who stood up against Mugabe and called him out for his hunger for power and human rights abuses. Hold in there Sir
Now Mugabe is dead. Is it solved zim problems
@@user-xn6ti1em9s First of all I was giving respect to President Khama for maintaining his level of standards. You sound like one of my fellow Zimbabweans who say ' Even if I vote will it change anything". Read my comment and understand before you make a fool out of yourself and correct your spellings while u at it u imbecile
A dictator calling out another dictator, that dsnt make him any better.
What a pretender😢
The general one of the best president in Africa
Gatwe Regime?
I think he trusted Masisi and now things didn't turn out to the agreement I remember when he ruled and Made Masisi a vice president he used to say ene ke lelope wooooow how things turned out now its really disturbing his the one that put Masisi to be his vice wooooow DTA Don't Trust Anyone #Stone Cold Steve Ostern
The way President Masisi is going about this, he might just want to be in office for a loooooong time. He will not want a situation where he'll be treated the way he treats his predecessor. How else other than clinging to office will he do that? Will he put in place a loyalist for a successor? I don't think so. The Angola situation proves it to be a bad idea. He will do a M7 or a Mugabe.
He must know that Khama has the hearts of a significant constituency. He cannot exert force on his own citizens just to get his way. Let him make peace with his adversaries soonest possible.
Masisi is trying his best to restore the dignity of this country from its previous status as a pariah state. All he needs to do now is to try and get the views of genuine genuine opposition political leaders to draw a general direction in which to drive the economy of this country. Atleast we can view parliamentary debates live on the national television and radio. During Ian's time not a single member of the opposition could be seen on national television, national radio or even be quoted in government print media. The news on all these channels were always about him, either dishing out soup and home baked bread or jumping over obstacles. Never participted in SADC, AU or even UN meetings. The only time he left the country was when he went either to the UK or USA. So, please we are tired of this fugitive stories of people who even as we speak are paying for their stay in South Africa using proceeds of crime which were not even legitimately obtained from this country. So please, just stop all this hullabaloo 😮!
He is a.man of integrity and sounds very genuine. Sk sad that power can pasz from a man of integrity ti a crimjnal who masquerading as a very honest man
why do you keep weapons
🤣😂you don't think all heads of states have weapons 🙄
He was planning a Rambo mission to topple the government. lol.
Botswana a once great country is now just another mess, these leaders have no sense of history, no respect.
Not true!
@@ronaldthebe21 Yes it is
@@christopherwalker5017 Why are you replying to yourself lol. Duplicate accounts are incredibly obvious but this takes it to another level
Tautona wa maloba, Rre Khama ke monna tota! Keep up the strength great leader
You Africans harbour Ian Khama and Saviour Kasukuwere and many more fugitives
Why is he not living in Botswana?
Batho ba baalwa mme ba ne bale ditsala gorileng jaanong 😭😭😭😭
Please come and rule us in Zimbabwe sir. We are tired of these cows
😪
LongLive General SKI
During khama s reign..police were brutal and corrupt especially towards foreign nationals..now Botswana Police is better.and least corrupt.
The present President of Botswana is like the Zambian Lungu.
This was a great leader who should be admired.
Oh please.... if you think Lungu was a great leader then you have such low leadership standards...
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@iankanini4713 he means the current president of Bots
@@iankanini4713 You got him wrong. He meant the incumbent is Lungu-like while this man was a great leader. Lol
@@iankanini4713 please leave Lungu alone… he is quiet and people will judge…just wait and see..Nipano tuli!!!!
sabc you must stop wasting time with this gentleman
Since when you give SABC a mandate? Grow up man, useless!!!
Botswana was run properly when he was President. Hope he stays safe, and governs Botswana again.
It's YOU that stole my house, property and passports.
And most of ALL my son. And my babies.
He should testify in the courts and not on media
O tsosha Ke ba Tswana
Khama wanted to rule from the grave, when they failed he tried to DE campaign the incumbent. we cant be fooled by this interview here in BW, because this guy is self serving.when things dont work for him he turned. if he is so innocent he should come back home and clear his name
😂 😂 🤡
wareng tota wena!!!
@@abramg.maruapula3169 wena wareng
He formed his own new party. BDP does not want to be challenged by Khama on the polls
Africa Africa Botswan how u treated you heroes? What u are contraveining Ubuntu get examples from neibour Zambia, we jailed and released in past we learned our lessons , Never purcute a leader Zambians will never agree and its reciepy being voted out office.
Lies,an entitled man who think he owns Botswana and Batswana. Botswana is a Republic. Please,don't make us sound racist by exposing the fact that many of you praise him because he is part white. That's it. He has done nothing for Botswana.
100% truth
Exactly. Khama and his family come across as a bit anti black. They have created a circle of themselves with their foreign spouses and friends and they have an attitude towards Batswana as if they look down on 100% Batswana. Ian sold large parts of Botswana to his white friends. They are trying to create some colored elite class in Botswana. Festus Mogus and Ketumile Masire ran Botswana well, no scandals, because they are 100% Batswana. I dont know enough about Masisi to comment on Ian's allegations, but Ian and his family seems an entitled bunch that Botswana is well rid of. They think their British blood makes them a cut above Batswana but they are finding out that we dont give a toss. They think Botswana owes them something. They want half white privileges. Botswana is not South Africa.
This nonse of persecuting the former presidents in Africa should come to an end.
There is no conflict in Botswana…why is the SA media only giving one side of the story …. A personal issue with a former friend is not a national issue ….in 2019 Natswana voted President Masisi in large numbers … he is legitimately leading the country …his presidency is not a gift from anyone he was voted at an election …
Precisely. There’s not conflict whatsoever in Botswana. If anything Masisi is actually on the verge of restoring the public just and breaking the misuse of the country’s resources by the Khamas.
Mr extra judicial Killings. Why do you keep such weapons in a peaceful country like Botswana? There's NO need to have those things here, who are u shooting with those guns?
The best way is to come home, apologize to everyone including the President of the Republic, then move on and work towards making our country one the best. You cannot cry over ammunition and flying army aircraft whenever u wish.
You don't need guns to run your charity work, you don't need army aircrafts to run your opposition party
PRESIDENT RRE MASISI
Operation dudula shud come for Khama,why can’t he go back to Bots to clear his name if he is innocent as he claims.
Is that easy ne!! Please no one will touch Khama he is here at the pleasure of South Africa(ans).
🤣🤣🤣🤣let him go back to Botswana 🇧🇼 and answer to the court of law
I mean, president Zuma attends his court proceedings whenever he is asked to do so, who does Khama think he is ?we lived in fear for 10 years during this guy’s tenure, he knows he is guilty that’s why he ran away.
@@777pilot3 he is not in Botswana and there's no summons against him
@@thetad1242 what do u know wena?
It’s sad he tried holding on to power by trying to control his success, that is why he should have stayed out of politics you did you part retire peacefully
Masisa behaving like Mnangagwa. This behaviour tends to reduce business confidence n will bring Bitswana down.. I thought Botswana is a strong democracy. African leaders also.... My prayers r with u sir Khama
Yes he is expecting special treatment, he should know better than having unlicensed weapons, the mere suggestion that the government must come to him to discuss his possible possetion of unlicensed firearms is a clear indication of expecting special treatment, possession of unlicensed firearms is a crime, any ordinary citizen would be in jail for such things. and if his weapons are licensed then he must come to court and provide proof that his firearms are legal.
The guy is spoiled to the core.
SuperSKIK
Wicked president, get this new president OUT of office!
The current president is playing with fire how do somebody treat his predecessor like this.
Very true. Kgama is also exceedingly powerful because of his dual heritage so the imperial powers of the world like UK and US could come for Masisi and make an example of him. He is indeed playing with fire.
Khama is just another spoilt brat....eat the monies you stole and leave us be
That's the face and talk of a fugitive.....he must prove himself not guilty in a Botswana court of African Justice