1964 Plymouth Valiant vs. Chevrolet Chevy II & Corvair

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  • 1964 Plymouth Valiant vs. Chevrolet Chevy II & Corvair
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  • @hebneh
    @hebneh Před 2 lety +3

    Where I live, both of these cars were hugely popular. They were all over the place along with Falcons. My mother had a 1963 Chevy II station wagon.

    • @bruceh92
      @bruceh92 Před 2 lety +1

      That wagon is a keeper!

  • @datacreed
    @datacreed Před 5 lety +10

    My dad had three '64 Valiants in the early 70s. All driven into the ground as each of my elder brothers drove them as teenagers. :) Great video quality. Thanks for preserving and posting!

  • @thinkpadBentnoseTheBlind
    @thinkpadBentnoseTheBlind Před 2 lety +3

    We had a 64 Valiant ragtop with the small 170 slant. with that rear end and gas mileage the car almost never got stuck in the snow and the car got almost the best gas mileage of any car we ever had. My dad always drove slow and never had a heavy foot. My Dad said the car never cost him one dime to maintain. Gas, top off the oil every 3 months and all was good.

  • @scootergeorge9576
    @scootergeorge9576 Před 6 lety +21

    Another unbiased report from Chrysler Corp.

    • @nlpnt
      @nlpnt Před 6 lety +9

      Salesman training.

    • @scootergeorge9576
      @scootergeorge9576 Před 6 lety +5

      Not meant for the general public. : )

    • @jamesslick4790
      @jamesslick4790 Před 5 lety +10

      It's an internal sales film not a "report", It's not even an advertisement. It wasn't for the public. It was for Plymouth salesmen.

  • @bigdog4173
    @bigdog4173 Před 5 lety +12

    I had a Valiant,and was very satisfied with it

  • @jamesaandf
    @jamesaandf Před 4 lety +11

    The Valiant was a much better car than the Chevy II. The Valiant body was much stronger, the Slant 6 much better, the Torqueflite much better, the ride and handling much better, warranty much better, service intervals much better and looked better. I rode in both when new and the Valiant was a much better car. Also, in ‘64 the 273 V8 became available but was not mentioned in this video.

  • @paulsheehan8185
    @paulsheehan8185 Před 2 lety +2

    in Canada, the Chevy ii/ Nova, was also called a Pontiac Acadian.

  • @gcfifthgear
    @gcfifthgear Před 4 lety +3

    Valiant made up for the error shown in the engine options in mid-year when the 273 V-8 was added. My brother had a Signet 200 hardtop with the V-8...and the Chevy II Nova SS was reintroduced in mid-year, as was the hardtop body style.

  • @danr1920
    @danr1920 Před 5 lety +9

    Wait a year and get the '65 Corvair. I have a '65 Corvair. Best handling, stopping and best looking.

  • @chriskelleher349
    @chriskelleher349 Před 4 lety +2

    Film released 4 days before Kennedy assassination.
    My grandmother bought the 64 Chevy with a column shift. It was OK.

  • @jeffscomp
    @jeffscomp Před 6 lety +3

    The valiant was an awesome car with the push button transmission. Definitely the better buy back then. Wheels were smaller though.

  • @johnnymula2305
    @johnnymula2305 Před 2 lety +1

    I’ll give Chrysler credit here. They actually had the guts to think someone would find the valiant more appealing. 🤣

  • @JSB103
    @JSB103 Před 4 lety +3

    Why not bring the Plymouth line back out of the cemetery? An economically built, popular line with a car based on design simplicity, sturdiness and cheap manteinance and operation. I think it would sell very well.

    • @chriskelleher349
      @chriskelleher349 Před 4 lety +3

      JSB103 . Pop off the Fiat badges.

    • @JSB103
      @JSB103 Před 4 lety +1

      @@chriskelleher349 : A car built along these lines of design simplicity, sturdiness and low cost maintenance & operation (I.E. less trips to the car-shop), will sell well regardless of the label, I think.

    • @timothykeith1367
      @timothykeith1367 Před 3 lety +2

      Federal regulations killed the basic car.

  • @adamtrombino106
    @adamtrombino106 Před 6 lety +10

    Must be an early promo.. No mention of the 273 V8 and 4 speed offered at mid yr..

    • @rightlanehog3151
      @rightlanehog3151 Před 6 lety +3

      AT, They list the 4 speed in this promo but not the V8.

    • @fairfaxcat1312
      @fairfaxcat1312 Před 6 měsíci

      A promo is a promotion. This is a dealer information promotion. The idea is to promote the automobile in such a way as to help the dealer promote and sell the automobile. The automobile the dealer will be promoting and selling is the Valiant automobile. The more Valiant automobiles the dealer promotes and sells the money he and the motor company will make.

  • @TheCarCrazyGuy
    @TheCarCrazyGuy Před 6 lety +3

    I was a baby when this video came out

    • @datacreed
      @datacreed Před 5 lety

      I was negative 4 years old. :/

    • @acadianfever
      @acadianfever Před 5 lety

      The Car Crazy Guy Me too!

    • @fairfaxcat1312
      @fairfaxcat1312 Před 6 měsíci

      CZcams commentators “datacreed” and “acadianfever” were not yet born when these automobiles came out.

  • @AnthonyEvelyn
    @AnthonyEvelyn Před 6 lety +8

    Keep em coming!

  • @50mongo
    @50mongo Před 3 lety +1

    mine is 55 years old and had 1 minor engine overhaul - new rings - 60 thou skimmed off the head - carter 2 barrel carb & front anti-sway bar - front disc brakes - free flow exhaust
    can relatively easily do 100 mph - had too many drinks @ took out a lamp post @ blew out both front tyres and drove away - they have hemi 426 main bearings and V8 valves
    Auto is 55 years old and flares up between 1st and 2nd gears under full throttle

  • @sergeysmelnik
    @sergeysmelnik Před 6 lety +6

    How did you get these in such good quality?

  • @buddy8225
    @buddy8225 Před 6 lety +2

    My dad had a Valiant convertible with the 273 V8 and automatic transmission.

  • @senorkaboom
    @senorkaboom Před 5 lety +2

    There is no drawback to the 2 speed auto G M offered. In the day, we had 2 cars that had that tranny, a ‘65 Impala wagon and a ‘68 LeMans. The tranny worked well in both cars and at over 100,000 miles, I had the tranny in the LeMans rebuilt. Cost was under $300.00 for everything.

  • @vmat1000
    @vmat1000 Před 6 lety +4

    Man a 4 speed on a six! That must have been fun. Had a '63 Nova, 4 door pg 6. Great car. Corvair,,,nader's raiders tho a neighbor bought one then

    • @philpatterson7085
      @philpatterson7085 Před 3 lety +1

      I had a 64 Valiant V200 with a 4 speed, it was a fun car.

  • @KDoyle4
    @KDoyle4 Před rokem

    I'll give credit to Chrysler for actually showing the advantages of the Chevy. I'll take a Valiant hardtop with the big six and an automatic.

  • @datacreed
    @datacreed Před 5 lety +8

    "Sprayed and dipped" lol - I remember how "chalky" and rusty my dad's white Valiant was at 10 years old (in '74). Kinda like that white residue on your fingers when you touched white aluminum siding? :)

  • @user-zf6wq8cv9m
    @user-zf6wq8cv9m Před 6 lety +7

    Больше плиз видосов!!!

  • @paulsheehan8185
    @paulsheehan8185 Před 2 lety +2

    i'd buy the valiant, because it has a three speed automatic, chevy doesn't.

  • @chrisbrown3925
    @chrisbrown3925 Před rokem

    We don't want to talk about no optional v8 on the valiant, here's a yardstick...

  • @philojudaeusofalexandria9556

    wait... cars in 1964 came OPTIONAL with a heater? Were the windows optional too?

  • @BigEightiesNewWave
    @BigEightiesNewWave Před 2 lety

    Valiant trunk design and fuel tank location were way ahead of the times.

  • @thoughtfinder
    @thoughtfinder Před 4 lety +3

    The Valiant was a better choice. The Corvair was a very dangerous car. My dad owned a 1967 Corvair. He traded it in for a brand new 1969 Chevy Impala.

    • @AnthonyEvelyn
      @AnthonyEvelyn Před 3 lety +2

      The 67 Corvairs were safe cars.

    • @jerrychacon8814
      @jerrychacon8814 Před 3 lety

      Volkswagen had there engine in the back also no one ever said they were unsafe.no car is totally safe.

  • @terrymeadows1827
    @terrymeadows1827 Před 2 lety +2

    The Answer Man won't answer the questions, but diverts attention to another topic. I'd have walked.

    • @fairfaxcat1312
      @fairfaxcat1312 Před 6 měsíci

      CZcams commentator, indeed one “terrymeadows1827,” accuses an individual, an Answerman, of not “answer[ing] the questions” and changing the topic. “Meadows’” response is “walking.” What is the nature of this Answerman? Who is this individual and what are the questions he is not answering and why? Toward which topic(s) is he diverting attention?

  • @biukucanoe
    @biukucanoe Před 5 lety +4

    How did GM get away with 2 speed auto in 1960s???

    • @AryDontSurf
      @AryDontSurf Před 5 lety +5

      The powerglide is not that bad, its geared well enough to get decent highway speed. Its kind of strange though as far as downshifting or engine braking goes.

    • @303nitzubishi4
      @303nitzubishi4 Před 5 lety +7

      Same way Neons got away with three speed autos well into the 00s

    • @wintersbattleofbands1144
      @wintersbattleofbands1144 Před 2 lety +1

      It was essentially second and third gear. I had one. Drove great, good mileage even with a 350.

  • @jeffking291
    @jeffking291 Před 3 lety +1

    I’d still go with the Chevy.
    📻🙂

  • @TheCarCrazyGuy
    @TheCarCrazyGuy Před 6 lety +2

    $15.60 price difference? Is this really a huge consideration? Were people that broke back in the early 60's? That equates to $126.61 in today's money. And a heater is optional???

    • @jerrychacon8814
      @jerrychacon8814 Před 3 lety

      Gas then was around 27cents a gallon then

    • @joemackey1950
      @joemackey1950 Před 2 lety

      Heaters were usually optional. As were radio's. My '65 Falcon had three options: heater, radio and cigarette lighter. Most cars were delivered to dealers with these options as a rule since they were usually added anyway. One could order a car with a heater/radio delete.

  • @MisterMikeTexas
    @MisterMikeTexas Před 5 lety +3

    I'll take the Barracuda with 4 on the floor.

  • @peterdaniel66
    @peterdaniel66 Před 3 lety +3

    love how they gloss over the fact that the Valiant doesnt have a V8 lol

    • @richardcrooks6741
      @richardcrooks6741 Před 3 lety +1

      Valiant had a 2 barrel 273 as a option in 1964 and 235hp 273 option in 1965

  • @bruceh92
    @bruceh92 Před 2 lety

    Even if the Valiant wasn't beaten with the Virgil Exner ugly stick it stands no chance against the two Chevies.

  • @merc-ni7hy
    @merc-ni7hy Před 6 lety +3

    seems chrysler does not include ford in alot of these comparo's ,,,why didnt they have the new for 64 falcon??

    • @mymopar
      @mymopar  Před 6 lety +4

      It's coming up next.

    • @merc-ni7hy
      @merc-ni7hy Před 6 lety +1

      cool

    • @mymopar
      @mymopar  Před 6 lety

      czcams.com/video/8l0Hqb9e2zk/video.html

    • @joetrip229
      @joetrip229 Před 6 lety +1

      they did, compared worse than the chev

  • @OsbornTramain
    @OsbornTramain Před 2 lety

    Man, this customer is confused, he's all over the place, he can't even decide what type of model he wants........2 4 9 door?

  • @mrjason9382
    @mrjason9382 Před 6 lety +1

    Nice

  • @kmyre
    @kmyre Před 2 lety

    Valiant, aka why Chrysler ended up needing a bailout in 1979

  • @raparperi-yf6hg
    @raparperi-yf6hg Před 4 lety +1

    I WISHD ID HAD SOME DAY VALIANT AND AMAZON

  • @sonofagun1037
    @sonofagun1037 Před 4 lety

    7:15 ... isn't that a hardtop corvair?

  • @fairfaxcat1312
    @fairfaxcat1312 Před 5 měsíci

    The narrator sounds like a three-pack-a-dayman.

  • @TheCarCrazyGuy
    @TheCarCrazyGuy Před 6 lety +4

    Beep: Racers use the Powerglide trans not the TorqueFlite

    • @thetman0068
      @thetman0068 Před 5 lety +3

      Yes, there are fewer shift points to get to 1:1 on a Powerglide, but that only matters for performance. For roadability, the TorqueFlite would be far better suited, as the car can stay at lower engine RPM at certain speeds. That equals less noise and better economy.

  • @saltisami
    @saltisami Před 2 lety

    the say chevy II had no convertible version. thats not true

  • @Doobie1975
    @Doobie1975 Před 4 lety +1

    To me the Chevy II didn't become a great car until 1968

  • @smilsmff
    @smilsmff Před 6 lety +6

    sorry Valiant was never a eye candy car, only now are they desired

  • @LearnAboutFlow
    @LearnAboutFlow Před 5 lety +1

    Good video but I didn't understand the concept - The guy who is looking for a car (in other words, knows nothing of the features/benefits) is the one who is stating all the features/benefits.

    • @303nitzubishi4
      @303nitzubishi4 Před 5 lety +1

      The narrator is explaining everything to him as he is looking at both cars. There are two different voices talking to each other in this slideshow

    • @fairfaxcat1312
      @fairfaxcat1312 Před 6 měsíci +1

      CZcams commentator “303nitzubishi4”explained the apparent confusion between the identity of the customer and the identity of the seller. The commentator solved the mystery by pointing to a third party, a narrator, who lays out the respective features of the automobiles considered for purchase.

  • @mrjason9382
    @mrjason9382 Před 6 lety +1

    Like

  • @HillbillyonaYZ
    @HillbillyonaYZ Před 5 lety +2

    Lol, and now 55 years later.. The Chevy II is a classic performance icon (that V8/4 speed option mentioned).
    The Valiant, well.. There was an old woman I used to see driving one. She had "Jesus Saves" stickers all over it and a row of bobble head Jesus figures in the back window.
    Guess we see who won this battle in the end..

    • @nonyabusiness6240
      @nonyabusiness6240 Před 5 lety

      I see a lot of valiants on the road in original condition though, while the chevys have been rebuilt and modified

  • @mrpistonrecaro6483
    @mrpistonrecaro6483 Před 6 lety +1

    Hate the voice. Great videos

  • @timothykeith1367
    @timothykeith1367 Před 3 lety

    Either is fine for me!

  • @igorsedlic1692
    @igorsedlic1692 Před 4 lety

    Plimunth rules

  • @JJABRAHAM69
    @JJABRAHAM69 Před 4 lety

    I received my drivers license in 1967.
    I was 16.
    The Nova was a beautifully solid ,very in demand car amoung my peers.
    My sister's boyfriend had a green nearly new 1963 SS Nova.
    It had the cool factor, at high school.
    The Mopar Valiant was a cheaply made piece of junk,right from the dealer.
    My mother had one.
    I will never forget the POS push button transmission,and the ugly sounding Bendix starter.
    Jeez Chrysler made horrible cars,until 1968!
    Then they built Road Runners,Super Bee's,AAR Cuda's,Chargers and Challengers.
    But before 1968, Mopar made ugly,cheap,cars unfortunately.

  • @cargo4441
    @cargo4441 Před 6 lety +5

    Well gee i will take a Falcon.

    • @blairberg1081
      @blairberg1081 Před 6 lety

      yea i would to or a mercury comet

    • @5610winston
      @5610winston Před 5 lety

      Studebaker Daytona. 259 power kit, overdrive, twin traction, discs. Or add the R1 Avanti spec 289 and the Super Lark package, plus factory air.

    • @chriskelleher349
      @chriskelleher349 Před 4 lety +1

      5610winston .There's always an outlier in the bunch.

  • @allmotorkp61
    @allmotorkp61 Před 4 lety +2

    Joke's on Chrysler when both the Corvair and Chevy II outsold the Valiant

    • @jamesaandf
      @jamesaandf Před 4 lety

      If you will check 1964 sales, you’ll find the Valiant outsold both the Corvair and Chevy II.

    • @imagrandpa
      @imagrandpa Před 2 lety

      Better marketing, not the best car

  • @matt9759
    @matt9759 Před 6 lety

    101 hp in a v6. And also 2 speed automatics?? Damn. Technology has come a long way. My 4 cylinder 2017 Chevy Cruze has 153hp and a 6 speed automatic

    • @philtripe
      @philtripe Před 6 lety +2

      they are in line sixes and the 101 hp has the three speed...the two speed powerglide is a chevy transmission which had a 155 hp optional in line six...that old chevy may not be more reliable than your car but it is more durable...those powerglides were nearly indestructible

    • @GlassTopRX7
      @GlassTopRX7 Před 6 lety +4

      Power has come a long way those inline 6's were fairly large displacement from 2.8L-4L. The hp was a joke but they made decent torque so even with 2 speed in normal driving they got around fine. Plus the cars were light, they weren't burdened with modern crash safety requirements.

  • @HIDHIFDB
    @HIDHIFDB Před 5 lety

    I prefeer a Chevrolet commodore 4 speed on the floor.

  • @717rocket
    @717rocket Před 5 lety

    Chevy ll.

  • @gordon4385
    @gordon4385 Před 5 lety

    This one was easy: either Chevy wins.

  • @LawrenceRoss1906
    @LawrenceRoss1906 Před 5 lety

    I'm not interested in...