SpaceX Starship IFT3 Aftermath: New Insights Paint Different Picture!
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The third Starship launched! How did it go? Does anything require repairs, and why did it tumble? Dream Chaser is gearing up for the launch, and ABL Space is back in action!
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Thank you SpaceX team! You are our heroes! You Rock So Much!!!
Can I ask Felix, with the bottom of the launch tower they use metal sheeting.. Have they ever thought of Heat proof tiles that would be on the starship for better insulation? Just a thought :) Love your channel watched from the start.
@@MrComfyAustralia That kind of tile would be obliterated by the blast. They are extremely fragile
"ULA sniper?" Thanks for introducing this concept )))
@@MrComfyAustraliaThey aren't very resistant to pressure, and they are quite expensive compared to stainless steel
@Whataboutit would the idea of putting heat shielding tiles like on the starship around the launch Mount table a good or stupid idea?
As a child I watched the Mercury, Gemini, Apollo and Skylab that NASA put up. As a young man I watched the Space shuttle flights and the ISS built. I'm old now and the wonderful folks at SpaceX make me feel like a kid again. Thank you all for your dedication to exploring "the final frontier".
Fellow senior here. Enjoy that young feeling, I hope it continues until we land on Mars
SpaceX is absolutely amazing
Same age bracket & feeling here! I had 2 live feeds & watched quite a few replays of this last lunch. Now live in Port Orange Fl. & can watch launches from my back yard. Can't wait to see a super heavy take off from the Cape!
I think most of us "old heads" here are more patient with SpaceX's development method... in fact I for one am amazed by it. We remember what it took to get Redstone, Atlas and Titan II to any degree of reliability... lots and lots of booms and many at very low altitude. The track record of Falcon 9/Falcon Heavy speaks for itself. Starship will eventually equal their reliability. Great time to be a space junkie!!
I was born by the time of sputnik but don't remember much until mercury. The rapid development of space tech reminds me of the way computers developed, there was a slow start but suddenly an exponential growth. I think we are seeing that now, and if we manage not to blow ourselves up, we will see this period as the dawn of a new epoch, The spacefaring epoch
You are not old, they are just a bunch of kid’s burning Elons money to boost his ego… never seen so many failures and explosions and mis calculations. The best ones are the uncontrolled boosters with all the engines crashing back like bricks… never seen that many epic failures…. Stay tuned more money to burn 😂
I totally agree with you Felix! SpaceX Engineers & indeed, all of the SpaceX Employees from Production Planners, Materials Procurement, Quality & Inspection Specialists, Welders, and Cleaners to everyone else working there at Starbase, it takes every one of them working together to make Starship & the Super-Heavy Booster a success. It cannot be done without you, you rock! As Felix would say. Seriously, we have needed this type of development and rapid iteration for a long time in order to get us out there, in Space, thank you!
Every time I watch these presentations, I get excited. At 76 y/o, I never get bored with this. I salute my fellow space enthusiasts. Space... the ultimate endeavor. Is it ok to call us "Musketeers"?
It’s the curiosity about everything else there is besides Earth. That’s a lot. 😄🥂♥️
Watching Felix get so excited during launch was so heartwarming. I couldn’t help but smile.
It was heartwarming to watch this with all of you as well. Thank you for sharing this moment with us!
He’s irritating
I felt in sync with felix... I was hooting a hollering at the exact same moments... synergies lpl
Yes, I enjoy his hyper ways. He must enjoy what he sees s doimg
lol he did look a bit tired though , :) and bet all the team were , everyone thinks it's just a clip , , but SO SO MUCH GOES INTO IT BY so so many :)
"ULA sniper?"
Brilliant! Thank you, Felix. I had a good chuckle about that.
Good point to include the launch site. How quick we were to forget how much SpaceX has done to make launch site damage an old issue.
That's like saying, "My car keeps exploding but man the driveway sure does look good."
@@samuelpeterson7043 "And I finally figured out how to keep the driveway intact! Y'know, like other people did 70 years ago."
Yes the SpaceX team at Boca Chica and CA. Are awesome! They always appear to be like busy little bees “kicking butt” always moving and working , the inside staff are always energetic and very enthusiastic! Go Starship Go SpaceX!
But it exploded bro
Ummm why was I automatically thinking about "Boca Chica "wow wow"?!😂 while reading this? Sorry I just had too🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️😁
@ElonMusk-bs8kdumm do you actually believe that we are this stupid to believe you are Elon? Or are you like 6 yrs old??!
SpaceX employees... THANK YOU! From Hawthorne to Boca Chica to McGregor to Roberts Road you guys ROCK! If you are reading this, please keep up the great work. Thanks to WAI's coverage too! I personally feel like I am emotionally attached to each success and failure during Space X's drive to perfecting space flight. Falcon, Dragon, BFR and Starship are allowing us to watch the future now.
Whoever their source for OLM paint is, absolutely loves Space X.
Watching the grid fins correcting themselves is one of the most epic things to be privileged to witness and in real-time, wow, just wow! I'm speechless. Each launch is better than the last.
except the fins didn't correct the ship
@@nitram419 because the ship was way too high up for the fins to work, and by the time the fins could have done anything meaningful, it was too late.
So why were there no reaction thrusters?
@@nitram419 there were. However, an unknown failure prevented them from functioning (IMO, they were frozen open)
@@bryanillenberg It appeared to me, seeing all the violent vibrations and overcorrections, they were in enough atmosphere. They were reacting to something.
To ALL SpaceX employees. From the gopher all the way up to top engineers, CONGRATULATIONS 🎉 on the milestones on flight 3. I like a lot of people are excited to see improvements on each flight. Which means getting closer to refuel in space and moon/mars flights. I was alive to watch 1st Apollo moon landing on tv. So when I see the improvements you guys are developing, WOW. IM EXCITED 😆
This post needs more likes. Space X is moving space from the realm of science to the realm of Industry. It's hard to overstate how important this is for the future of space exploration. All those people working all those long hours are leading the way for humans to become a truly space faring race.
It's got mine!
My father worked for Boeing on the Saturn 5 missions. Can’t tell how excited I am with Space X as a whole!!!!!
all you folks at SpaceX are so much in my heart for your dedication to drive us ahead to become a multi-planetary species.
to master a solar system has become a talent to explore
(human talents are infinite )
@ElonMusk-bs8kd to surrect planets is how to live in a universe - life as center of the universe
I had goosebumps, from launch to the end of the Starship, and even more goosebumps when I noticed that plasma, never seen that before. And I saw Apollo 11 launch, in black and white, because we didn't have color TV. It didn't exist at that time. 😁
Haha! Same here! I really thought that the epicness of the high altitude flight test images of the Starships doing belly flops could not be topped visually. IFT3 prooved me wrong!
@@WhataboutitAsk my neighbors what happened during launch, it was almost the same as Scott Manley during IFT1 but quadrupled. 🤣
Yes, SpaceX has done a great job on improvement of the Starship system! I will eagerly await the next IFT as well!
Its all compleat useless trash!
We love you SPACEX TEAM! I aspire to be ranked among you one day. Thank you for everything. Seeing the work you have all done and seeing it all come to life has been pretty much the only glimmer of hope humanity has these days.
The team at space X is making the dreams of millions happen. In trying times, they are brining hope and a little happens to us and their dedication to space flight is the stuff of legends. Bless and be well all.
399,000 almost 400,000 let's see 500,000 by the end of summer...
I still think you're the best show for space updates!!!
Thank you, Matt! These comments mean the world to us here at the WAI team!
Nothing would be possible without the amazing spacex team. Their skills their tenacity and their dedication has accomplished so much. Without these incredible people nothing happens. Elon would be a dreamer and we would have no saving grace for our species. I stand amazed at these brave pioneers. Humbled and grateful. Always in a mix of awe and envy.
SpaceX - I love your work. You guys are literally pushing us away from long term extinction. Can't think of anything more valuable.
The 3 test flights so far have shown awesome progress each time. All that hard work (and we know you work way hard) is paying off. Thank you!
You're the best youtube channel covering space updates there is. I love watching your videos. Keep it up. Much love from Poland!
Thank you so much! :)
The other presenter is far better, this guy Felix is just tolerable.
awesome job to all the workers and staff that made this IFT3 launch possible they spend hundreds of hours getting these pads and rockets ready the future is coming fast
Ok everyone, let's take a look at the whole picture. Elon/SpaceX does things a little different from the traditional. Remember Falcon, the first 3 totally failed. The 4th launch was successful and then Falcon makes history. Starship will be fully successful. Go SpaceX!!
You are talking about falcon 1, which never made any history.
Falcon 9 - that has made history - worked on first try.
@@torben777 Falcon 1 did make history. It was the first completely private rocket to successfully achieve orbit and paved the way for everything that came after.
@@johnnemeth6913 I think that is a matter of definition and interpretation. Sure SpaceX is a private company, but so it ULA, Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman etc., and NASA was an integral part of the Falcon 1 development, which they also largely financed, just as they have been on countless previous US rocket developments.
Lockheed Martin developed the first Atlas rocket in 1957, which is 14 years before Elon was even born, and it flew humans to orbit in 1962.
The contract type was slightly different for Falcon 1, with the private company taking a bigger part of the risk, but US rockets have always been build by private companies.
AWESOME JOB, Space-X Engineers!!!
The SpaceX team is awesome. The masters of maintaining forward momentum.
Go SpaceX!
@@Whataboutit You're*
@@Whataboutit, It seems that your enthusiasm about SpaceX is at the top, listening to you cheering on the other Rocket Companies seems second to none.
Thanks for pulling for all of them together, space is almost endless, there’s plenty of room and need for all!
Keep up the great work SpaceX!! You're learning lots more with each Starship launch, making huge improvements each time. You're going to get it all down perfectly, just like Falcon 9. Just a matter of time.
To all the SpaceX employees that made the IFT 3 possible, I am in awe of your skills and ability to work together to produce something humanity has never seen, and most never thought possible. I am continually amazed at what you all have been able to do with Falcon 9 and now Starship and the Super Heavy Booster. Keep up the amazing work you produce!!
Felix has an infectious enthusiasm that is very addictive. Keep those insightful videos coming!!!
Ooops: *insightful.
No riots, please!
@@gregbailey45 Thanks for the correction.
Dear Felix thank you for the marvelous hard work you do to pull all this information together and spoon feed it to us in a delicious video.
It is so impressive that you manage to stay on top of this rapidly evolving industry.
Thank you very very much.
If you are a space X employee reading this, I just wanted to let you know that several of my friends and I think you guys are the greatest, moving humanity forward :)
aye - same here - we are all cheering for you !!!
It's all Tim Dodd's Fault! 😁
I think the idea was an important one, also you probably shouldn't just generalize that an idea is bad after only 1 test of that idea. But who knows lol
What , why?
@@MBSfilms77 what idea?
@@Hungary_0987 the hot gas thruster
@@MBSfilms77Oh, I agree. It's just funny. Have you seen the video they put out?
a massive thank you to all the people at SpaceX, you are building the future for the rest of us!
I think that the next launch will be a little while yet. SpaceX needs to figure out what went wrong, redesign whatever needs redesigning so that it doesn't happen again, retrofit the new design onto the existing booster and ship, run some tests to make sure that the redesigned parts work as intended, and tell the FAA that they've made the corrections. This will probably take a few months, so I'd say that some time in mid to late May is the earliest we can hope for for the next launch.
I’d agree with this. I dont believe they are in too much of a rush. Plus, there’s added pressure to perform well so their contract with Nasa is not delayed 🥰 I trust the team tho
April 20th - you can bet on it - 420! Snigger snort! Sixty Niner!
Watching Space industry develop at this pace is so cool
@@ElonMusk-bs8kd thank you Elon. Much respect to you too.
@ElonMusk-bs8kd i'm based in Austria at the moment. How are the things going at the Starbase ? Test flight 4 soon ?
You would have to be a fool not to appreciate the brilliant hard work of the SpaceX employees. They are changing our world for the better. Not many people can say that, although most would like to.
I also love Space-Planes. I am a child of the Space shuttle era and can even remember the first Shuttle launch in 1981 as a 4 year old child. No matter how impressive Starship is, I will always be „Camp Spaceshuttle“! (STS 128 Atlantis is my favorite launch!)
Love the details your team has put. Nicely done Felix and the team.
Thank you very much!
Best place for SpaceX and space updates. Can't wait for my T-Shirt to get here.
Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned control thrusters, because, in space it doesn't matter if you have small wings or big wings.
Congratulations SpaceX engineers, designers, HR, production control, quality control, and production!!
Thank you SpaceX for inspiring so many
As I was watching the futile attempts by the grid fins to o stabilize the tumbling booster, I was immediately thinking about all the fuel slosh this must have caused. So it was no wonder to me that the booster didn‘t relight and then exploded - this was similar to the consequences of the sloshing in IFT-2 after hot staging!
Not so much tumbling as wobbling. Trying to correct and overshooting, repeat back the other way
Shoutout to the freelance artists recreating a spaceflight 🥳 Yall are a shining example of people helping people
As Felix said, I am very proud of everyone at SpaceX and as I am adolescent, I look up to y’all and I have always wanted to go into aerospace engineering and that has just kicked my inspiration up to 11
Love the channel Felix and WAI team! Thanks for what you do!
We need to start using the TR3B
I cant wait to buy a ticket for a ride on Starship! That will be so cool!
Bloody well done, SpaceX crew! A magnificent success of a test flight!
Big applause from Australia!
always fun to see your presentation Felix! Keep up the good work.
I was following all this online. That was breathtaking.
Well done to all employees at SpaceX for such a fantastic effort with the third test flight. I look forward to more successes to flight 4. 🎉
One looks at engines other than the current Raptor - and one sees just how far SpaceX has come. As a wise engineer once said, a part that you don't have is a part that can't fail. So many fewer parts to fail on a Raptor.
I am Proud of you and your Team, Felix. You create professional and informative videos.
Same for the SpaceX Team. They are creating Mankind's path to Mars, and to the Expanse! Baby steps. Baby steps.
Thanks SpaceX for looking out for the future of humanity! Thanks WAI team for all the knowledge you imbue! You Rock! ❤
Actually, if the Starship was any other rocket, the fact it went to space, was able to open its door and to act like it dropped a payload in orbit, means that it would have been a successful flight. The problems encountered during the flight were only related to things and events tied to reusability
If it was any other rocket or any NASA project it would have been shutdown in a heartbeat. Remember according to schedule this rocket should have been ready for fuel transfer and reentry. ( Part of Artemis and moon base). It succeeded leaving earth only by the third attempt. And didn't even succeed completing spacex own checklist. The payload bay door got stuck, there was apparent loss of fuel in orbit which caused the tumble. Should have re-entered earth in the Pacific but only did so in many pieces. Spacex is so far behind schedule it's unbelievable congress keep supporting them. As of now the government has payed 3 billion dollars for three failures. Imagine if it happened to NASA!
I think the booster's problem was hitting the tropopause too fast. At 7-6km when atmospheric density spikes the booster was doing mach 3+ and you could see the fins couldn't handle the instability and correct fast enough, resulting in fishtailing. That level of sloshing in the tanks could easily cause the engines to fail to relight. I think they may need to start the central 3 engines a few seconds earlier to decel and give some gimbled thrust correction before starting the suicide burn proper...
I was thinking same. Maybe even a single center at a much higher altitude, get the remaining fuel to settle.
But the Booster doesn't need to do a suicide burn...it can throttle thrust to the point where it can hover (for as long as the fuel/oxygen lasts). A suicide burn is when you have too much thrust and have to time it perfectly so you slow down enough to stop without lifting back off because the excessive thrust.
Wind that day could also be a problem. You can clearly see the oscilation problem of left and right roll starts right where it goes through that cloud layer. Sometimes those cloud layers form due to high wind share.
@@LezChap lol, sorry, force of habit. Either way, they proved they don't need a re-entry burn since their peak velocity never went above a Falcon's post-burn. Just need some tweaking at the end and they're home free!
One of the most amazing things that can be seen in a lot of the video footage is the shockwaves that were vibrating from the ground which is part of the energy that pushed that giant building into space
“ULA snipers”😂😂😂 that one got me
Nice Video as always! Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪
I'm one of 10 Operators who operate that very Chamber you had posted up. We are about to start Thermal Vacuum testing on the Viper Rover soon!
I don't foresee the next launch of IFT4 before June 22nd not because of stage zero but to correct to cause of the tumble on Starship. Also the Pez dispenser door is going to get some upgrades as well - might even see a discharge of a few Starlink satellites (6) to test functionality. And there will be some modifications for the booster engine area to minimize plasma / shockwave damage. (imo)
Great coverage thanks!
I would really like more detail on the stage 0 long term prospects and wear rates of the deluge system/outlets directly under the raptors. This is such an epic contest between opposing forces and a still-pending problem for Mars; it will be easier to dig a hole than install such a deluge system there. Soooo what about it? (Sorry I had to😂)
Thank you! We already talked about that! The plates do loose a few kilos of steel during each launch. So, they' will need to be replaced occasionally. BUT SpaceX is able to make a new plate in-house within weeks! So, that should not cause anyt delays at all.
I was worried once I saw starship rolling that heavy.
How are you holding up since then?
Same here! That's what testing is for! IFT4 will surely address this!
Congrats to the whole SpaceX team on an amazing IFT3 launch. Seeing that large group is inspiring, they must be making memories they will never forget. Enjoy the ride of your life on an amazing career at SpaceX!
Congratulations Felix on 400k subs. The WAI community is growing at a crazy speed.
What is the difference between a Falcon 9 booster re-entry and the SuperHeavy booster re-entry regarding potential engine damage and engine relight?
SuperHeavy is way bigger, and holds a lot more fuel which can cause fuel slosh. SuperHeavy also skips a re-entry burn, so it's going a lot faster when it does it's landing burn.
Holds not enough fuel, it seems.@@sander915
For most of the flight Super Heavy is actually more robust, but its the critical tropopause threshold when atmospheric density spikes where it fell apart.
Super Heavy has lower initial velocity in the upper atmosphere because Starship carries a hell of a lot more fuel than a Dragon does so can boost itself higher. SpaceX hoped that would allow them to skip a re-entry decel burn and they were kinda right, since at 50-40km the two had comparable velocities.
That said, Super Heavy has a LOT more mass relative to its cross-section so by the time it hit real air resistance at 7km it was still over 1500kph which is almost double that of a Falcon 9. You can see it start to fishtail and the fins don't have the response speed to stabilize. That will cause fuel sloshing which could have caused the relight failures. I figure in future they'll light the central 3 engines a shade earlier at about 10km to get some decel and gimballed control to help the fins out, and start the other landing engines a bit later to compensate.
I would love to see if running just 1-3 engines all the way down would aid in controlling the booster’s descent.
They’ll figure it out. They’re SpaceX!
More fuel efficient to burn more for a shorter duration.
@@oppenheimersbong9863The purpose would be to slow the descent bringing the ship speed down to where the grid fins are more effective.
Thankyou Space X team and WAI! My 12yr old son and I follow these achievements and its an amazing connection point. We are in Australia so I let him stay up to 1 am on a school night to watch history in the making. It will be a lifelong memory for him and me.
Keep it up SPACEx! Can't wait to see starship successfully reach orbit and land back safely with the ship and the heavy booster. That will one heck of a memorable moment
ULA Snipers 😂😂😂
Love each launch and the amazing progress. Can’t wait to see the next launch.
Hats off to the team! Amazing hard working, talented folks all. Thank you team for bringing this dream to fruition. Great to see the team picture.
Elon Musk is genius.
Probably not true, based on all the lies exposed, his immature behavior and avoidable business blunders
Outstanding work EVERYONE !!!!
Congratulations Space X on your amazing continued dedication to the Starship Xploration. You guys rock ! Incredible efforts !
Spacex is making the dreams of a 68 year old space kid come true. You are a blessing and somewhere Admiral Shepard is giving that grin!
Awesome update, thank you WAI team!
This was the greatest achievement is the history of space travel. Maybe the greatest achievement in the history of mankind. I love everyone involved with SpaceX.
Awesome!! Congratulations to everyone involved !!!
You are my favorite launch update and news channel, always so upbeat and thank you not only to SpaceX employees but to you as well for keeping all of us space nerd informed. It’s good to have something positive to look forward to in a world that at times can be so oppressive.
You guys ROCK Thanks for the content
❤❤❤❤❤I’m so PROUD of SPACEX, the Engineers, the Contractors, the City, the County, FAA and ELON❤❤❤❤❤❤ Sure this is ROCKET SCIENCE and the fact that this Company is so Industrious and PROUD to be working for the next GEN rocket program is totally AWESOME!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
amazing work by all SpaceX teams ...thank you!
Awesome update, love you felix!
It is this effort that is taking humanity into the 21st century
Thanks SpaceX and Felix for all you do. You Rock.
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Great stuff as always!!
I’m looking forward to test 4. The likelihood of both making it back to Terra firma goes up every launch. I figure super heavy will make a soft landing, as well as Starship. Kudos to all at Space X. Thank you to Elon and the rest of the team for getting us closer to getting back into space.
Wow, I couldn't believe it when I saw the episode number, already 350 episodes, that's awesome! Congratulations to you and your team, Felix, you rock! 🎉
Nice job Alex, your analysis rocks
Great Work CONGRATULATIONS ON SUCCESS- looks Good ! Thanks for all the hard work!
I have noticed, that despite all the problems, the Starship test flights are matching the cadence of the Shuttle test flights.
Excellent stuff bro
This launch was awesome and a successful mission !!! Keep it Up SpaceX and we'll keep dreaming on
Thank you for a fantastic video.
Great video as always, guys! YOU ROCK!
Why isn't Felix's channel not at least 500K?? Let's make it happen!
🙏Working on it!
I think the annoying little animated chap puts people off.
Thank you!
Congratulations felix. Been with you from the beginning