The History of Double Dragon 3 the Rosetta Stone arcade console documentary
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Way to go Patman my man!! Love the old school beat em ups💯
You and me both my friend thanks
Fighting ninjas in the moon ... preciousness! Thank you for the laughs! Cheers from Brazil
LOL, thanks. Cheers back from the USA
Getting very close to outright brotherly love for you, man. Your work is outstanding
That's kind of you to say, thanks :-)
I absolutely love Double Dragon 3 on the NES. Is it challenging and hard, yes but I do like the controls. I was able to beat that without losing any guys. However I really hated the genesis, arcade and game boy versions.
I like the NES one as well
I've always said it...
The Double Dragon Trilogy were *ALL* best on the NES > all other versions of that era 👍
@nemo pouncey
Ah. You mean either DDV Shadow Falls or Double Dragon on NeoGeo I'm guessing? I think VS fighters were all the rage at the time, plus, DDV wasn't developed by Technos (DD on NeoGeo was though) but, by all accounts, DDV is pretty dreadful. Especially the Atari Jaguar version as it's actually a pared back version of the 16bit versions! 😅
Personally though (as if you hadn't guessed?) I do like the NeoGeo one though and it's unofficial sequel 'Rage of the Dragons' - a sequel where it was made but they were unable to secure the rights so they just reworked some of the names etc. Now THAT is an excellent game 👌
@nemo pouncey
I did! It was good but, I'll admit, I was disappointed that it didn't just play like DD2 on NES, but with a 4 slapped on it! 😅
But it was definitely a pleasant surprise. I just seem to remember they made gameplay changes so, although it used DD2s visual style, the moves had been tampered with (hurricane kick, etc).
I should probably mention that NES DD2 is my favourite EVER beat em up though (yes, even over SOR2).
It was just so way ahead of its time with all those hidden special moves, crazy platform led stage design, incredible soundtrack and the often overlooked grapple system where you hold your opponent and then you can: 1. Throw or 2. Knee or 3. Elbow or 4. Blast kick em into the air.
Still impresses me to this day ❤️
@@NeoGeoNinja81 a a a que
Man, that pocket full of candy and white van joke was rough. I love it and keep it up.
Well Done, Mr. Patman...I Love Double Dragon since my introduction at Playing Double Dragon 1..The Lee Brothers were remain my favorite ever since..Hope to see The History of Street Fighter, King of Fighters..and 2 of my favorite shooters..Psycho Soldier and Metal Slug..Have A Good Day
Thank you, they are on the list
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries Your Very Welcome, Sir..and also a Longtime Batman fan ever since I watched The 1960 TV Series
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries Just make sure you don't slam SF1 too harshly, there are many of us that loved that game and still do, I know that game better than the programmers themselves so if you need some history or playing advice on it then chat to me first before you rush in and slate it like most do who just can't play it properly or wasn't around at the time to appreciate it and just compare it to SF2 all the time (yawn),...otherwise you'll lose a viewer! >:-( ;-D
I don't just slam every game I play. I try to be fair even some of the weaker systems which if you are a subscriber then you would know. Fair and balanced, but if it does deserve as slamming I'll be sure and give a one:-)
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries SF2 deserves a slamming just for the insane overhype It's always had,...grrrr.
It took me two weeks to get past the first stage of the NES version. I did eventually beat the whole game. Ranzou was the man.
Absolutely :-)
Patman you're the best!👍👍👍🎮 ,I never see Double Dragón 3 arcade,thank you👏
Thank you, I only ever saw it in one arcade and that was it.
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries thats experience was amazing.🎮Double Dragón 3 arcade is much better than Nintendo port👍Awesome Video💎
I agree, thank you so much
Whoever programmed the sprite movement, they made them move in these like 8x8 chunks. I wonder what the purpose of that was? On the master system they did that because they were using background tiles for all the characters in games like Golden Axe, but why do that in an arcade game? I've always wondered about the weird movement in this game
No clue, but it looks like there only other works that I could find was for some random arcade shooter.
Good point about the rarity too. I only was ever able to play it in a local 7-11 right after it came out, so I got a bunch of quarters and beat it with a friend from school in the summer of 1990 before going on vacation one weekend.
It was around here for very long either
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries Yeah, just glad I got to beat it.
This "Hiruko" Granny reminds me of the Village Elder from Fallout 2. She kinda looks like her and she is giving advice to Jimmy and Bimmy who seem to be some kind of Chosen Ones...mhhh. Great Video again Patman. Your Channel deserves way more recognition.
I appreciate that, thank you so much
Hey Pac dude man..... Soon as I sober up I fully intend to watch this video in it's entirety. In the meantime I'm gonna give this video a thumbs up JUST because I know it's gonna be awesome. You know? Kinda like when Pantera played the Soviet Union back in 91 and blew me and my friends heads off when we was only 13🤟
Excellent, I hope you enjoyed it
aaaand.....you'll be SAD you did!!! freaking awesome Mr. QC!
LOL, I was going to sAY my usual line but then that just popped out. Glad someone caught it :-) thanks
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries I think u and I are about the same age, both have kids, played about the same games growing up in late 70s and 80s...finding out about you thru this youtube medium and finding out what happened to ya, I really want you to know that what you're doing is awesome and important to a lot of people, I truly hope this helps to support you and your family!! you seem like a great guy, and I wish you and your family the best patman!!!!
Helpful review, thanks. The choppy animation of the arcade gives it a sense of lagging controls, affecting the fun of the gameplay. Thankfully the Flying Edge Genesis DD3 version is smoother.
Glad you enjoyed it! The Genesis version is a lot smoother but Still doesn't with a great.
still doesn’t with a great?
Flying Edge didn’t port the Sega Genesis/Mega-Drive version of the Double Dragon 3 arcade game because Flying Edge is a publisher (a division of Acclaim Entertainment) if you had check it was Software Creations that ported it
Great video as always! I didn't know the arcade game was so shameless. I only played the NES game, which was too hard for me to beat back in the nineties. But recently I played the hack known as Double Dragon III Deluxe, which makes the game easier, and I finally beat it!
Thanks, the NES version was hard but I enjoyed it. I will have to check out the deluxe version I have never heard of it
I had this game on Sega back in the day. I thought it was just a hard game.. turns out it was garbage! The first stages music is a classic tune and has been stuck in my head forever!
Yes, it's not very good
MikeDeeJackson is it possible you were hopeless or no good at playing it?
I'd have loved that commodore 64 version back in the day.
After the first Commodore 64 game absolutely, the third one turned out really well I thought
I love that they didn’t give all Cleopatra’s riches to charity, but they SWORE they would.
I love the U.S.A music from the arcade and mega drive version of Double Dragon 3.
Yes it's very good
I enjoyed this so much to watch it twice. I’m hoping Combatribes gets it video because that was looked at as the spiritual successor to Double Dragon 2 namely because the creator was working on that versus DD3.
The game is definitely on my list which is why I keep peppering it in my videos :-)
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries sweeeet
I couldn't find the "I freaking absolutely love this video and all of the content you put out" button so I just settled with hitting the like button.
LOL, comment of the day. Thank you so much
Sweet - thanks Patman
Thank you for watching
When you spin that question mark around it makes the 3D perspective weird and hurts my brain! Apart from that, great work! Love your videos!
Awesome, thank you!
DD3 was a great game. Loved it on my Nintendo and I consider the final battle to be brutal.
Yes it was especially on the Nintendo
DD3 on the NES is definitely the definitive edition, since it was developed by Technos themselves, unlike the other versions, arcade included.
For anyone coming in via /r/amiga, the only real coverage of the Amiga version is from 23:35 - 25:05. It'd be nice if people could stop spamming the Amiga reddits with videos that have barely passing mentions. This is much more appropriate for an arcade sub.
I really liked the NES version, glad I never saw it in the arcade.
I like it as well
WoW,The Combatribes got a mention. I only discovered that game a few months back and I’m completely addicted to it
It's a lot of fun, still planning on a video for it at some point
Best channel I grew up in the early 80s first console Atari 2600 best days ever 👍
Thank you very much, I loved my Atari as well
Although DOUBLE DRAGON 3 has the most bad ass box art in the series.
Yes I thought it was very cool
"The heroes swore they would give Cleopatra's treasure to charity..."
Suckers...
LOL
That Ninja Gaiden continue screen was and still is nightmare fuel! The game came out when I was 7 and we had a small arcade at the public pool. That was the first time I saw it and that's what I thought of when I saw it appear in this video! HAHA Awesome as always, Pat!
I was shocked when I saw it and I was 15 at the time….And also thought it was the coolest thing ever :-) thanks
0:47 I Love Knight's of The Round From CAPCOM® The Only Side Scrolling Brawler's Beat Up Game's That I Remember I Play it On The PS2 Game's Part of CAPCOM® Classic Collection Volume 1 & 2 On PS2 Also On XBOX.
Nice video pat
Thank you Evan
Really enjoy your narration
Thank you kindly!
I can see why people stuck with the Commodore 64 well into the 90's. They always had somewhat decent and playable ports. I wish I still had my old system but my brother sold it. They are so hard to come by in my area and people are asking more than what it cost new.
Yes, even into the mid-90s there were still good games coming out for this couldn't compete with the newer stuff
My jam was definitely brawlers too, with run and gun shooters a close second.
Sounds like me :-)
I never play it on arcade...but that HUD remind me the crime fighters arcade.
It does look very similar
I remember when I was a stupid kid in the 2000s and I was playing this arcade game every weekend. Now I'm 26, my tastes have changed significantly, and my brain has finally finished developing. And I realize now that I wasted my childhood.
LOL
The 3rd brother who just appears from nowhere. Reminds me of Kickboxer 2.
LOL no kidding
I've heard a lot about this installment into the franchise and most was not good. The graphics and sound do look and sound good but that playability is no where near the other ones. The commercial looked great. The cover arts on all 3 look great for the nes. These computer versions of the games look great. I wish I had more exposure to them when I was young. Double dragon neon was an awesome game. Me and my best friend played that game like madman on the ps3.
Great job with the vid pat 👊
Thanks a lot. The graphics are okay but it just plays terribly in my opinion. Nowhere near as fun as the previous double Dragon games
Did they charge a lot more of the DD3 machine? He keeps saying "more money for Technos" but every setup I have ever heard up for arcades were operators bought the machines outright (and they were pricey) and then they took on the liability of recouping costs and making a profit by making deals with establishments to profit share the earnings from the machines when placed there. This means unless there was some other situation for this machine, unless they really jacked up the initial price for the machine citing the additional revenue options, the "micro-transactions" didn't mean more money for Technos.
Yeah, that's the way I thought it worked too. I think those features helped them upsell the machines to operators for sure tho. Those features are why arcades died, to me.
The one person who disliked this video is going to catch a hurricane kick to the face courtesy of Bimmy and Jimmy
LOL, the funny thing is it was given a thumbs down by one of my subscribers literally a minute after I posted it. They didn't even watch the video
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries Wow, friends like these huh. 😂
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries Hopefully they disliked it because of the game, not the video.
@@Rando1975 Hopefully, can't please everybody though
Patman is pulling no punches on this one. ;-) This was a strange one for me, when it came out on the MS-DOS. I remember getting really excited reading about it in games magazines - the screenshots of the detailed sprites and backgrounds, the multiple characters and locations… - and thinking this was Double Dragon taken to the next level. And then I actually played it…
I felt exactly the same way
3:18 No, that's more money for the operators, not Technos. No arcade manufacturers get royalty from an operator after selling a machine to a distributor. You don't pay a royalty to an appliance manufacturer every time you use your stove to cook a meal.
Releasing this on NFL opening day.... gutsy pat...that's how winning is done! 👏👏👏
HAH, Thank you :-)
"The chin brothers who are Chinese men with powerful attacks, The Grammarly commercial with spelling correction, & the Oyama brothers who are Karate Masters with speedy attacks.."
Technos the most underrated video game developer of all time?? Sure feels like it.
Trivia: did you know the true successor of Double Dragon 2 is a game called "combat tribes " unlike Double Dragon 3 it's made by the same developers AND it was initially going to be called l Double Dragon 3 but they decide to give it a different name before release.. so combat tribes is the REAL Double Dragon 3
Happy little games . . . . . . Have you covered Combat Tribes yet? I liked that one when I was an arcade rat.
Not yet, spent on the list for a while and I've peppered previous videos with clips of it :-)
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries Awesome! Just keep doing what you do, you da man!
Double Dragon 2 was one of the first games I beat as a kid and thought I would dominate part 3…boy was 10 year old me in for a difficulty surprise.Only played the NES versions
And never seen arcade one till now.
I really enjoyed the NES version I don't get the hate for it to be honest
I loved the arcade version of 1 and 2. I remember renting this on the Genesis and was so disappointed. The NES version was solid. It's a shame because the previous arcade entries were so great.
why were you disappointed?
Well done patman
Thank you
documentaries you're welcome
Never saw this in the arcade back in the day. But I did play it on MAME years later. Boy-howdy does it suck. I think hell on earth would be playing the Amstrad version or even the Tiger Electronics version!
LOL, that's all a lot of people could afford back in the day
I rented this he once, played it for about an hour, and never played it again.
You didn't miss much
thanks patman 🙂
Thank you for watching
This had the most atmosphere out of the series. I liked it, it was fun. I compared it to Gang Wars. Not the best of games but once you get quite good at it. It provides the goods.
I especially like the NES version
If you haven't played Double Dragon 3 consider yourself lucky. There is no version worth playing. It's a dumpster fire covered in fecal matter...it truly is that bad. What makes it even worse is the pedigree it comes from is so solid. Double Dragon for the Nes, Master System, and Sega Genesis were absolutely fantastic. Double Dragon 2 for the Nes and Sega Genesis was truly spectacular as well.
I like double Dragon three on the NES
@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries
I know this is old but...really?! You would truly be the very first person I have ever heard, say that. I'm not using hyperbole or being sarcastic in the least. I really was so angry when this released that I swore off the entire series after that. I almost refused to play the Combatribes, but I decided that if it was anything like DD3 it was only one quarter. Thankfully, it was not because I really thought the pay-to-win format was going to be Tecnos new way of doing things.
I remember buying the gameboy version for $5 at a flea market back in 2008 & playin it on my gba-sp,i got up to the egypt level before getting a game over
Not too bad, The Game Boy version is pretty good for what was
DD3 on the nes was my first ever DD game i played, and worst of all, it was the famicom version, so no english, that means no Bimmy joke for me, and guess what ? it is easily in my TOP 10 BEST NES GAMES OF ALL TIME, and why is that ? well, good graphics, amazing music (the ending song is amazing), good controls, geat gameplay, amazing 2 player coop and coop moves, very challenging and most of all, very fun, we could easily beat it after a while and finish it without losing any of the guys, and u can easily exploit 1 move that i have no idea if it was made on purpse or not, but the ''backwards hair throw'' is insane, u just jump to an enemy face on and press both buttons and back on the controller and u can fling them to and edge and get rid of them easy, also using an enemy's weapon and keeping him alive until the end will keep ur weapon, and that was a nice way to use a weapon for longer....i played the other 2 on nes, and still, dd3 is my fave, sadly every other DD3 version sucked so much, and the artwork on the famicom version is amazing and i was glad to see the gang back in DD4.
I couldn't have said it better. I really enjoyed all the games in the series for the most part with this one being the most difficult in my opinion
0:17 0:26 0:36 0:47 1:17 I Prefer My Opinion is All The Above Too. I Love Arcade Game's For Me Though I Love The Side-Scrolling Brawler's Games I Love Especially Final Fight And Double Dragon Series And Other's to This Day.
2:04 2:23 I Love The Japanese Manga And Anime illustration Artwork Style Characters of Billy And Jimmy Lee or Spike And Hammer Anyway Thanks PatmanQC Your Awesome!!!
Thanks a lot for watching, you're the best :-)
I'm a huge Double Dragon fan, I will put in my honesty about Double Dragon 3 for both Nes and Arcade ports, even though it had the same name but different game, as a kid I hated Double Dragon 3 on both Nes and Arcade.
The Nes port was too excessively hard while the Arcade port had really bad controls and hit detection same time hard difficulty which takes all the fun experience away in an unplayable game.
Double Dragon 3 the Arcade game also had some controversies as well, it was the very first games to use micro transactions in quarters for an arcade cabinet, basically if you wanted new upgrades like weapons, power ups, continues, extra health, playable characters etc. then the gamer has to enter the in-game shop and pop in real quarters. Yes I said it here it was very controversial attempt for developers to get a quick cash grab of your hard earned quarters.
Yes, I talk about all of this in the video including the micro transactions. They were absolutely terrible
The amiga sounds remind me of almost every beat em up flash game i played in the early 2000s
I always loved playing the portly kung fu guy. He felt OP even tho he wasn't 😁
The commercial reminds of a 90s toy commercial for karate fighters
LOL yes it does
I liked that you could have three players in some of them with Sonny as the third, I think the characters that also were newly playable being twins was strange, I guess the future is just really populated by twins. The NES game title Sacred Stones made more sense, I'd read the creator picked the name Rosetta stones because he was a fan of a music group or album called Rosetta Stone. I suppose historically if Cleopatra let a royal cobra bite her in sorrow of Mark Anthony dying and at the same time the Harrower(s) tale of Jesus rescuing some of the people in the devil's lair opened a portal, used the translation of Rosetta's tablet rock to invoke a resurrecting spell, a wraith that takes the Egyptian Queen's form and shoehorn a dumptruck of Hell's riches into a pyramid. Might fill in the gaps of why they were investigating Marian and the tomb of mummies, ... No; Well fine anyone have a better explanation?
Very interesting, I never knew that about the creator.
I had no idea there was a third brother. I only played the Nintendo ports growing up
A lot of people didn't realize it either
Double Dragon 2 is the best of the NES Trilogy.
I enjoyed all of them, It's hard for me to pick the best
The walking animations remind me of the NES port of Bad Dudes.
They are a bit stiff
I briefly played this once on an emulator. I want my 15 mins back in my life
LOL
DD3 on NES is unfairly bashed as a bad game, but it just might be the best version of the game, and the best of the trilogy on the NES
I don't get why people don't like it, I thought it was really good
Funny thing is, back then, I was pissed off by NES games to be different from the almighty arcade counterparts. Nowadays I think most NES versions were a lot better with new stages, moves and great replay value.
I agree, I just wanted to appear straight up arcade port but it never seemed to happen in the NES especially when it came to double Dragon. You are right though, for replay value this was the better deal
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries yeah. Contra and Super Contra comes to mind too. Average games on arcade but masterpieces on NES.
Wait, Bimmy and Jimmy! Bimmy isn't even a real name" AVGN
I know this is a bad game, but I was and still am trying to do a fanfiction based on it and The Combatribes but using Gravity Falls characters. The only thing I can defend about this game is basically the music. This game is basically what happens when a very small company such as TECHNOS tries to outsource it to other developers- you end up having a game that pretty much kills the series and makes the famous companies such as CAPCOM very popular.
I really enjoyed your mouth noises this week PatMan. Please dont hate me, I really do love your videos and am super sorry if I hurt your feelings...
I put some extra ones in just for you
I just wonder who is Kato and how did he involved with lee brothers since character like Chin,Hanzo and Bimmy was appear in story mode of NES version
"I'm Patman. Tell your friends about me"
LOL
Spike and Hammer….Bimmy and Jimmy!
Nice-Lost Tomb!
Thanks!
Go Patman!
Hope you enjoy it
I hated this game so much. It was an amazing disappointment.
Tell me about it, I had to play through it again LOL
Awesome thanks
Welcome 😊
Amazing how some of the computer ports had smoother animation then the arcade version.
It really is, especially the Genesis version was a lot smoother
Ahhh remember that trip to Italy dad and we saw all those shirtless men with bows and arrows walking the Promenade? LOL
LOL good call
I confess that I hated Double Dragon in the arcades, so have avoided this series ever since.
But this was such a great, funny, and entertaining video! Thanks for making it 👍👍👍👏👏👏
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks
why did you hate it?
@@jasonlee7816 I remember the characters being really small compared to something like Final Fight. They also (from memory) played quite sluggish/unresponsive - when hitting a bad guy, it was nowhere near as satisfying as hitting in Final Fight. And the only move that was interesting/satisfying was that elbow move.
I don't know - I'm in the minority so I may revisit it again one day...
I hope they do the remake with same missions and better graphics
That would be cool
great video has always patman...especially loved the line "its just unfortunate that the original source of material was a piece of crap"
LOL,Thanks again
Answer - it had a pay for stats and pay to win mechanic! Very early version of micro transactions.
Indeed
What emulation are you using? its very clear. My mame is much more pixelated cos I need scanlines.
I use that the newest version
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries which version is it?
you really love disposals
What I don't understand in these computer versions of they constantly have arcade translations why didn't they make a special controller for arcade games. This only makes sense to me.
I wish I Had the answer. The Amiga was capable of using two independent fire buttons but for whatever reason they didn't programmers didn't take advantage of it
I Prefer Double Dragon 1 And 2 Arcade Way Better Than Double Dragon 3 Arcade It's Pretty Sad Why That Double Dragon Game's Got Punch Ouch!!
The second one is probably my favorite
@@PatmanQC-Arcade-Documentaries I Agree With You I Think Double Dragon 2 is Way Awesome But Let's Not Forget The One And All Double Dragon 1 Still Double Dragon Series Never Die.
I Actually went through this whole game on my arcade emulator app and I still cant figure out why I did it I guess I was just curious. the last boss took me like 20 min to figure out how beat lol!
It's a chore to get through LOL
I will play the nes version, game boy version, and the Sega genesis version of double dragon 3.😀👍🎮
Itally... Um, were they transported to Golden axe in that level?
LOL no kidding
Series peaked at 2 IMO. I'd didn't enjoy 3 in the arcade or on the NES nearly as much as 2. In the arcade I didn't enjoy 3 AT ALL.
EDIT: "... you'll be sad you did." 😁 Perfect.
I agree, it did peak at number two but I really enjoyed super double Dragon. Glad you enjoyed my ending tagline :-)
The Brawler or Beat ‘em Ups sir!
Combatribes were so dope!
Oh yes, loved that game. I did a video on it as well so check my archives
I have a soft spot for Double Dragon 3. It had a lot of interesting ideas marred by poor execution. Can't fault that music though.
It was really good
The frustrating thing about Double Dragon 3 is that the game has more variety of locations than the first two games combined. Had they sorted out the gameplay and horrible pay to win mechanics it would have been the superior game in the trilogy. I have the GOG version of the trilogy though and it's absolutely terrible so I can't agree with you it's great.
You didn't mention this but I'm curious to know how the computer ports and the Mega Drive port handle the pay to win mechanics since from the footage the weapon shop is still there in those ports?