huge Adrian fan and I don't dislike Jim or Sam but they have a musical icon and legend in front of them and they can't be bothered to at least peripherally know his work... Jim claims to be a huge Zappa fan yet did not know when Adrian played for him. Then when Adrian alluded to his King Crimson days (arguably one of the greatest group of musicians ever) Jim couldn't take a hint.
Wow. These are two of my major childhood heroes. I have the album cover of "Discipline" tattooed on my arm. I have most of their stuff on vinyl from the 80s.
I wonder if anybody ever asked the Cracked out Bobby Brown and or Witney Houston's thoughts about the song ,maybe Bobby couldn't get untied from the Tower of Power & get the Spindle out of his ass to talk to music journalists lmao
17:23 Just imagine how much better Adrian’s “interview” would have been if he didn’t have 3 DJs and Stewart cracking jokes non-stop during this segment. “What is this Howard Stern?” No, Howard occasionally shuts up and listens. 🙄
It's just a sad situation. Fripp is the leader of King Crimson, and his compositional genius defines what they are. Nonetheless, Belew is an extraordinary genius too, but more importantly there isn't another musician alive who could do for Fripp what Belew could do for him. Between his vocals and guitar playing, I don't know anyone else who could handle what he handled in KC (and I'm not sure how much he wrote as well). So I wish the two of them could get along -- Adrian deserved far more than an email if Robert wanted a change
I must have missed that, I thought he spoke highly of all musicians mentioned... I liked what he said about Sting because like most people there in the studio I thought he would have an ego the size of an elephant, but no. Apparently it's the opposite. I'll shut up now.
Maybe not this interview but he's been known to take jabs at progressive groups in particular, like putting down Neil Peart in the past even though they are friends.
So nobody in the studio besides Adrian and Copeland knew who the guitar player was for the band Belew played in for 33 years? Does not compel me to watch this un-researched show again.
I think Adrian Belew is awesome, but the new version of KC is incredible, and getting Mel Collins back in the group and playing more pre-Lark's material was a welcome change.
@@foodog777 I was at the Live In Chicago show with the 3 drummers (and the 4th playing keyboards), and it was incredible ensemble playing; but you can't compare that lineup with a group with 1 drummer. If they did have one drummer, of course I would have wanted to be Bruford, but that wasn't an option for Fripp to consider. Fripp did choose to exclude Belew, but I firmly believe he chose the best ensemble for the material they played. Again, a setlist of '70-'74 material is what I preferred, over Thrak and Power to Believe stuff.
Thought it was admirable how Stewart stood up for Sting when the interviewers were knocking him down. Love Stewart Copeland :) But saying that Sting did them (Stewart and Andy) a favor by sticking around for two more albums after Zenyatta because he didn’t really need them (what?) and he (SC) was grateful to him for doing that -- that’s a new one. Don’t quite get it. But I’m nobody and who cares if I don’t get it - he was there and lived it. But even though “Sting knew how to make records,” as SC put it, his solo records were not as good as Police records. So he did need them to be as great.
With Stewart's sharing his father's professional life. I am again reminded of the number, increasing number of Musicians whose parents or parent were members of the intelligence community or military. Copeland Zappa Crosby Morrison Leto Cass to name a few. Of the Military base in Laurel Canyon, recently purchased by Leto. The recorded history of T. Leary thanking the CIA for LSD-25. It is an interesting rabbit hole.
This was great. Kinda funny to hear them talk about Fripp in this light. Sad that things went the way they did but it always was 100% Fripps band. He's the mad scientist.
That's what I thought. King Crimson was around long before KC with Belew in the band....... Belew will get over it. Time heals. Time doesn't wait ( "Time Waits" by Belew is a real nice song btw)
!please bring adrian back - just him or better yet him and the amazing julie if you have to have him bring a pal . jim - try "tinseltown rebellion" and also any ab solo disk
This could have all been avoided if they'd just kept the name "Discipline" and not been tempted to use the King Crimson name. I think Bill Bruford suggested it as a way to get gigs. I'm sure the name opened a couple of doors for them, but ultimately it was always potentially going to end up like this. They really should have stuck with a different name, using KC was handing this band over to Fripp. I mean, it took nearly 40 years, but it was probably always going to end up like this.
A note to the host: TURN DOWN YOUR FUCKING MIC! Put a compressor on it and let us hear the folks being interviewed without having to turn up the volume only to have you interject 8db louder. Jeebus - that’s narcissism at its worst.
Adrian did play for 33 years with William B and Tony L, and they really appeared to be enjoying themselves both on stage and off. Those shows were to me infinitely more interesting than what I've seen with the 3 drummers circus. but everything revolves around the Dude/Silent Bob, for it is his band.
Clearly Belew was referencing Robert Fripp in his sacking from King Crimson. Brilliant though he is, Fripp doesn't strike me as being particularly warm and fuzzy - or sentimental towards someone he'd worked with so long. Pretty sad - and Fripp nowadays may not be particularly proud as to how it was handled.
There are some very legitimate reasons why RF didn't want to work with AB anymore. It was all over at the end of the 5 piece 2008 mini-tour. AB acted like a prima donna which we know RF has no tolerance for.
I don't think it is boredom necessarily but more that he is a bit of an ADHD-like fidgeter (not good at sitting still). I think he needs a guitar in his hands, and he'd be fine.
Tell the rest of the story Mr. Belew! Tell the world how you and "Martha" demanded the rest of the band be paid "Sideman" pay, as a condition of you returning to the band. Getting a little full of yourself since you won the Oscar, aren't you?
Only so much time to talk during this interview anyways. But what's wrong with being paid as a side man? Only so big of a pie to split up and blue was the frontman lead singer of the band 4 decades. He's going to want to get paid some real money. That's just business. And this is show business. Most King Crimson fans are Adrian belew fans. But that's fine Fripp wanted to try a new incarnation.
@@goshgolly8305 At the end of the day, King Crimson are a functioning democracy. Everyone should be paid equal. Is it fair to pay RF more than the others because it's his band? No. And furthermore, I always liked the Cross/Fripp/Wetton/Bruford and/or Muir lineup better.
Pfsif Good, that means this was above your pay grade anyway. Adrian Belew is a genius, and Copeland was a fantastic drummer for one of the seminal bands of all time, among many other accomplishments.
huge Adrian fan and I don't dislike Jim or Sam but they have a musical icon and legend in front of them and they can't be bothered to at least peripherally know his work... Jim claims to be a huge Zappa fan yet did not know when Adrian played for him. Then when Adrian alluded to his King Crimson days (arguably one of the greatest group of musicians ever) Jim couldn't take a hint.
Wow. These are two of my major childhood heroes. I have the album cover of "Discipline" tattooed on my arm. I have most of their stuff on vinyl from the 80s.
I found out about King Crimson only recently. I love Adrian Belew!!!!
"He played guitar.. And mellotron" hint hint hahah
Wow, what a perfect show! Amazing story from Stuart Copeland and his connection to Kim Philby and the Cambridge Five. Then the great Adrian Belew!
Bill Bruford once called Fripp an amalgam of Stalin, Gandhi and the Marquis de Sade.
What band were they in?
MerkinMuffly KC and the Sunshine Band
Marquis de Sade? So Fripp fucked everything that moved?
MrLtia1234 KC and the sunshine band hahaha
michael mattice king crimson
Reads lyrics to Bobby Brown Goes Down. Immediately understands why Jim loves it.
I wonder if anybody ever asked the Cracked out Bobby Brown and or Witney Houston's thoughts about the song ,maybe Bobby couldn't get untied from the Tower of Power & get the Spindle out of his ass to talk to music journalists lmao
"Flakes" is probably one of the greatest songs I've ever heard...... also one of the funniest(crazy how the lyrics still hold up even now :D)
Poor Adrian when talking about Fripp.
17:23 Just imagine how much better Adrian’s “interview” would have been if he didn’t have 3 DJs and Stewart cracking jokes non-stop during this segment. “What is this Howard Stern?” No, Howard occasionally shuts up and listens. 🙄
Yeah why would they crack jokes on a COMEDY SHOW
They're having fun.
Mr. Belew seems genuinely hurt. I hope he and Mr. Fripp can reconcile.
200 motels - I agree with Stewart. It's a fantastic Zappa album. Thank you for posting. Very interesting interview. Can't wait to see them tour.
The fact that neither Jim nor sam mentioned discipline is a sin
My two favorite worlds just collided
Lots of stories very good man .
It's just a sad situation. Fripp is the leader of King Crimson, and his compositional genius defines what they are. Nonetheless, Belew is an extraordinary genius too, but more importantly there isn't another musician alive who could do for Fripp what Belew could do for him. Between his vocals and guitar playing, I don't know anyone else who could handle what he handled in KC (and I'm not sure how much he wrote as well). So I wish the two of them could get along -- Adrian deserved far more than an email if Robert wanted a change
this was so good!
Copeland's never been shy about criticizing other great musicians, I think it's mostly for show and attention though.
I must have missed that, I thought he spoke highly of all musicians mentioned... I liked what he said about Sting because like most people there in the studio I thought he would have an ego the size of an elephant, but no. Apparently it's the opposite. I'll shut up now.
Maybe not this interview but he's been known to take jabs at progressive groups in particular, like putting down Neil Peart in the past even though they are friends.
He kept rubbing his Grammys in Belews face ;(
I think I never enjoyed an interview this much. Thanks.
stu stickin up for the stingster.
So nobody in the studio besides Adrian and Copeland knew who the guitar player was for the band Belew played in for 33 years? Does not compel me to watch this un-researched show again.
Great interview. Stewart and Adrian come across great! Bravo for the high road taken on previous band members.
Holy Shit. That Filby story is outrageous.
I think Adrian Belew is awesome, but the new version of KC is incredible, and getting Mel Collins back in the group and playing more pre-Lark's material was a welcome change.
Meh! You think KC’s duet on “Indicipline” with Jacko singing Adrian’s spoken word part is good? They need 4 drummers to replace Bill Bruford! Meh!
@@foodog777 I was at the Live In Chicago show with the 3 drummers (and the 4th playing keyboards), and it was incredible ensemble playing; but you can't compare that lineup with a group with 1 drummer. If they did have one drummer, of course I would have wanted to be Bruford, but that wasn't an option for Fripp to consider. Fripp did choose to exclude Belew, but I firmly believe he chose the best ensemble for the material they played. Again, a setlist of '70-'74 material is what I preferred, over Thrak and Power to Believe stuff.
Agreed, Jacko can sing Wetton's and Lake's parts real well
@@foodog777 Newest KC is to me a cover band.
Heroes!
at 10:35, Chippah's laugh!!!!
HOMERUN COPELAND!!
lmao supper group... jesus fucking christ
Sad these clowns have no clue about Fripp, Belew, Crimson, Discipline etc.
@GOOMBAH no argument here but the mathematical precision of his music requires an asshole to make it work
Thought it was admirable how Stewart stood up for Sting when the interviewers were knocking him down. Love Stewart Copeland :) But saying that Sting did them (Stewart and Andy) a favor by sticking around for two more albums after Zenyatta because he didn’t really need them (what?) and he (SC) was grateful to him for doing that -- that’s a new one. Don’t quite get it. But I’m nobody and who cares if I don’t get it - he was there and lived it. But even though “Sting knew how to make records,” as SC put it, his solo records were not as good as Police records. So he did need them to be as great.
I loved adriens role in jones crusher haha!
Bonfire of vanities, no less...
In the thumbnail Belew looks like one of those Opie photoshops from reddit.
WHY DOES IT HURT WHEN I PEEEEEE
With Stewart's sharing his father's professional life.
I am again reminded of the number, increasing number of Musicians whose parents or parent were members of the intelligence community or military.
Copeland
Zappa
Crosby
Morrison
Leto
Cass to name a few.
Of the Military base in Laurel Canyon, recently purchased by Leto.
The recorded history of T. Leary thanking the CIA for LSD-25.
It is an interesting rabbit hole.
@Joe Hamm while that may be true in some cases. There is more to it than that.
Stewart and Belew are the kings of music. Norton and roberts are the hemmeroids of media
Hemorrhoids. Still a funny comment though.
How am I just finding this....?????
This was great. Kinda funny to hear them talk about Fripp in this light. Sad that things went the way they did but it always was 100% Fripps band. He's the mad scientist.
That's what I thought. King Crimson was around long before KC with Belew in the band....... Belew will get over it. Time heals. Time doesn't wait ( "Time Waits" by Belew is a real nice song btw)
Fripp is an egomaniac. And his music varies greatly in quality from album to w
!please bring adrian back - just him or better yet him and the amazing julie if you have to have him bring a pal . jim - try "tinseltown rebellion" and also any ab solo disk
They look like Howie Mandel and Ted Danson
What band were they in?
It was several minutes in before I realized Adrian isn't the guy from Veep.
I clicked because I thought bald opie was coming on
You can tell Adrian wanted to talk a little bit more but was cut short by whom ever ...
This could have all been avoided if they'd just kept the name "Discipline" and not been tempted to use the King Crimson name. I think Bill Bruford suggested it as a way to get gigs. I'm sure the name opened a couple of doors for them, but ultimately it was always potentially going to end up like this. They really should have stuck with a different name, using KC was handing this band over to Fripp. I mean, it took nearly 40 years, but it was probably always going to end up like this.
I'm not sure but like 10 years ago or so was Stewart Copeland on the Old O and A show and they hated him and he came across a blank.
Petition to get Adrian on top 100 guitar players by Rolling Stones
Talk about ego these guys have more than they can count on both their fingers
Yeah but it's pretty understandable why!
When the hell did jim start running the board?
What the hell was Belew doing in KC? Red is not a dance piece.
Ya, the spouse must be told of the CIA employment, background checked, etc.
Hopefully soon?? WTF?
Adrian Belew is a legend, wish the guys did some research beforehand.
Stew we do lunch you know.
Adrian, as good as you were, Robert Fripp was and will always be King Crimson. You were only part of an iteration. Period.
A note to the host: TURN DOWN YOUR FUCKING MIC! Put a compressor on it and let us hear the folks being interviewed without having to turn up the volume only to have you interject 8db louder. Jeebus - that’s narcissism at its worst.
these 2 guys look like a bald Gary Shandling & the ghost of Ted Danson, tss tss #FawkYeah
More so in the screen cap, than the actual video; but i stand by my original comment;
🤘🏽Dvv dvv dvv 🤘🏽
Adrian did play for 33 years with William B and Tony L, and they really appeared to be enjoying themselves both on stage and off. Those shows were to me infinitely more interesting than what I've seen with the 3 drummers circus. but everything revolves around the Dude/Silent Bob, for it is his band.
28:45 lol why would Normand know that
Clearly Belew was referencing Robert Fripp in his sacking from King Crimson. Brilliant though he is, Fripp doesn't strike me as being particularly warm and fuzzy - or sentimental towards someone he'd worked with so long. Pretty sad - and Fripp nowadays may not be particularly proud as to how it was handled.
There are some very legitimate reasons why RF didn't want to work with AB anymore. It was all over at the end of the 5 piece 2008 mini-tour. AB acted like a prima donna which we know RF has no tolerance for.
@@hfhifi6878, how do you know this?
@@philipatoz All I can say is that I've worked with Fripp professionally.
27:45 normand is the best...
"Zoppa" & "Bawie"? Oh, Stewart...
His sense of humor is highly questionable
These guys clearly don’t know who Fripp is lol.
Adrian Belew looks like he hates talking about anything but himself. Look how bored he is ;)
I don't think it is boredom necessarily but more that he is a bit of an ADHD-like fidgeter (not good at sitting still). I think he needs a guitar in his hands, and he'd be fine.
Tell the rest of the story Mr. Belew! Tell the world how you and "Martha" demanded the rest of the band be paid "Sideman" pay, as a condition of you returning to the band. Getting a little full of yourself since you won the Oscar, aren't you?
Only so much time to talk during this interview anyways. But what's wrong with being paid as a side man? Only so big of a pie to split up and blue was the frontman lead singer of the band 4 decades. He's going to want to get paid some real money. That's just business. And this is show business. Most King Crimson fans are Adrian belew fans. But that's fine Fripp wanted to try a new incarnation.
@@goshgolly8305 At the end of the day, King Crimson are a functioning democracy. Everyone should be paid equal. Is it fair to pay RF more than the others because it's his band? No. And furthermore, I always liked the Cross/Fripp/Wetton/Bruford and/or Muir lineup better.
Stewart’s taking a dump!.. turned it off straight away .😑
PLS NO BULLY FRIPP THANK U
Jim pretending to like Zappa is so cringe.
i don't get it, did belew actually win the oscar or was it the film he scored that won? he seems a bit delusional
Robert Fripp is insufferable. His obsession with Gurdjieff/Ouspensky/Bennett is tiresome.
You wasted an amazing guest
I left after the leftist anti-Trump bullshit.
Pfsif Good, that means this was above your pay grade anyway. Adrian Belew is a genius, and Copeland was a fantastic drummer for one of the seminal bands of all time, among many other accomplishments.