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When I people go from 600cc to 1000cc bike it isn't because they need more power it's because they want more power
You don’t know what people need.
@@haz3yrs93 i don't think you do either
Kermit The Frog what an idiotic argumentative statement from someone who probably has never sat on a motorcycle in their life.
Well put
@@haz3yrs93 i can guarantee that you nobody, even rossi himself, NEED 1000 cc bike to ride on the street, and if you want to bring up the "never sat on a motorcycle in their life" argument, yes i own a 1000cc bike, and also a 600 and 300, the power is just an option, no body red line a 600 on the street for over a minute, get real
The love between this man and that 600cc is unbreakable...
Well, that changed.
The main reason for having a 1000 versus the 600 is more down low torque. On the 600 you need to wring them out to get into the meat of the power, with the 1000, they pull from right off the bottom. Don’t get me wrong, i have owned a 600, and now i ride a 1000. After owning both, i enjoy having more grunt. Either will comfortably run at 80 all day long, but the liter bike will do it at a lower rpm. As for the weight difference, the added weight of the 1000 is actually more comfortable on the highway, the nimbleness of the 600 is a bit better in the twisties. Just my own observations from having had both.
Patrick Callahan I prefer the opposite, it’s more fun being able to use more of the 600 more of the time. But power wheelies are pretty awesome!
Spot on
Rata 4U, lol, I think that might be a bit of hyperbole, but it also brings up a good point! The reason so many of us older (or should I say more seasoned riders) suggest starting out on smaller displacement machines, is so that you develop the skills for riding before graduating to a more powerful bike. The only time you really experience that kind of throttle response you described is with these new RBW systems, and that seems to be true of so many of them (MT 09, GSX-S 1000) but it’s something you get used to.
Except it’s no longer made, hopefully they will create the new 765 Daytona that Moto 2 will get!
The low down torque is amazing to have in the city or even on the highway for a quick burst of speed in 6th gear at 4500rpm to get around traffic. Another great advantage of a 1k is the taller gearing for less frequent gear changes. My 2015 ZX10R hits 105mph in 1st so if you truly wanted to you never have to hit 2nd anywhere but at 70mph in 6th on the highway I'm at 5k rpm and getting 47mpg. As to the more nimble lightweight argument the ZX comes in at 434lbs with the Brock's exhaust and cat delete so on average only 15-20lbs more than the 600cc class and at that difference you can't even tell it's there. By far the best thing about new super bikes are the electronics. Even in 1st gear at 7k snapping the throttle back my bike won't wheelie or spin the rear in the rain. Litre bikes aren't the untamable monsters they used to be ten years ago.
The reason I don't have a 1000cc bike:
Bank account: $0.83¢ 😂
Hahaha
Brother make sure that you PAY YOURSELF FIRST. every paycheck from work make sure that 15 percent goes into saving if you can afford more do it but at least 10 percent minimum. It may seem like a lot but when you factor in the junk food you buy or games or whatever wants that you spend your money on, it's chump change. I believe in you brother. Don't get a gf just work on treating yourself first. By the year's end with hard work and patience you will have what you want. It's just good practice anyhow. Let this tip (lol) carry with you your entire life.
I used to only have .83 too and now I have 5.00 (jk) be safe out there man.
@@westboundNinja1 some people can't afford anything into savings, stagnant wages and rising prices of everything. I feel like every year i have to cut back on things i used to take for granted.
@@chrisredfield3240 I feel you man I just thought I'd put it out there for him. I used to think I couldn't afford to save then I just started changing my habits with what I spend on. I totally get being trapped in the cycle man. It sucks bad but not impossible to change. I hope you are well brother and are doing something for you. We all deserve financial Independence.
Keep saving for a few years and eventually you'll reach an entire dollar. XD
Summary: He's too attached to his 600cc bike. Boom. You're welcome.
Edit: Wow, this blew up. Thank you kind strangers ☺️.
thanks saved me 10 min
@@daevster6663 I second! 😁😁😀
I dont get a 1000cc because i cant afford one
Good one Glen! :D
I got the same 600cc but mine is way more modifed, i literally did everything that is possible
I'm an old man, so consider the source:
I've been riding over 35 years and have ridden almost every bike imaginable, since I used to run a repair service. My days of supersports are over because old man bones and supersports don't mix. However, my biggest bike is an 850 (Tracer 900 GT). After a certain point, the power becomes moot. The Yamaha triple gives me the torque rush, and it can double any speed limit in the US (with an ECU flash), so why would I need any more?
I found it was WAY more fun to show up on an "old man bike," and run that thing through the twisties as fast or faster than most of the dudes on supersports. Developing the ability to push the machine you have to its limits is much more fun than just "buying speed."
To me, anyway.
Too right mechanical brother. I miss stretching corner speeds out to the limit on my Honda VTR250 to keep up with my bigger road buddys bikes. Or the squating roller coaster feeling the VT750 DC has accelerating out of the corners. Bike specific qualities that I've only felt on the smaller bikes. Thanks for your moto service brother :-)
I absolutely agree. I love the triple engines for their balance of power and torque. After going to a R1200ST because I was doing a lot of long distance rides, I'm looking to get a MT-09 to fit a broader spectrum.
Maybe I'm just too old to be able to react to a pothole at triple digit speeds : ) Of course if you want to be realistic, very few people can.
Fellow Old Man (48) agrees..
I had a Ducati 748 with about 105hp... The most fun ive ever had on a bike.. Just enough power to have fun with, but not so much you want to shit your pants...
I like your point of view! Wish one day I can say that about myself. currently I am riding a Suzuki xf 650 and even it does not have lots of power by modern motorcycle standards, it is still very very powerful compared to how much power I have as a physical human beeing. When I ride it, I feel like a superhero that can go anywhere. I love my bike.
Being able to ride the wheels off a 1000 is pretty impressive too. Enjoy what you have but don't ever think you're better than someone else just because you're older or ride more reasonable machinery. Superior skills are still superior skills.
Bill Gates back in the 1980s : No one will ever need more than 640KB of RAM
LMAO
Yeah those two things aren't comparable in the least, but good try
@@704pat they actually are. More torque makes for a smoother easier ride especially 1 up or for heavier riders.
@@TheLiamis no, it doesn't. You can't argue that someone needs a liter bike for "smooth" power delivery. You're a clown bro, talking above your knowledge very obviously.
He probably thought that It wasnt even possibile to out that much transistors in a chio
After watching this ive decided to get a 1000cc sportbike
you only need 1000 if you have a fat girlfriend LOL
@@TheGamingThor1 lol
SUPER SPORT not a sport lol
@@adfro76 literally the same shit.
Unicorn MCLA No it’s actually not do some research
I got smoked by a hellcat yesterday.lol.i need a 1000
Lol I laughed wayy to hard at this lol
You can't ride then.. squid
No if we started from a stop I would get him for a while but we started at 70...700+ HP will pull on any 600 easily.
They do 200+ c'mon now.
@@2wheelsonly614 fair enough mate I used to smoke hellcats all the time on my 600 I had a 2003 R6 special edition or in other words the first Raven it was fast as s*** for 600 I would do a hundred and ninety almost no lies 187 all day don't believe me look up the bike and top speed good luck finding one that's why I never lost any races unless it was to a 1000cc
you made some really good points there. I recently sold my '09 CBR600RR for an FZ-09. not much top end speed but lots of torque down low and it seems to fit my riding style more than the CBR did.
The reason why i have a 1000cc :
Germany
On the other hand, Germany is not that great for sport bikes in general. Too many rainy and cloudy days. 😔
@Vulcon your english is funny lol.. but I know what you are up to
@Vulcon yeah for sure i got my R1 only for autobahn
@Vulcon wait. What 600 does 300km??
@Vulcon really? i'd say a Yamaha R6 goes like 250kmh, 270 tops but not faster. no way.
I see all these people justifying their reasons for the bike they ride. Honestly even a 600 isnt practical so why squabble pointlessly? We ride bikes because we are passionate about them not because of practicality. You want to be practical go buy a hybrid man. I love riding my insanely crazy R1 thanks.
I'm not saying it's a bad thing to own an overkill 1000. I think they are great bikes and I even said later in the video that I actually really like the new CBR1000RR (and S1K). If my 600 got stolen or broke then I would consider a 1000 just for the experience alone.
@@HeroRR after viewing your video I saw your point of view but my post is more in reference to the comment section of your video.
Yes. I was wondering when that would come up. I wasn't saying all 600's are useless, just there's not much of a point in buying one brand new. When for an extra $2,000 you can get a liter bike that has all the technology, holds it's value better, and has additional power. Since I already own a 600 (which I bought used) I don't see a point in "upgrading" there's really no reason to. The extra power isn't needed and i'd rather hold onto my money and maybe buy something else like another dirt bike or a jetski (lol). If I were buying new though, a 1000 would be my choice, maybe a 750.
Speak for yourself dude. I commute on my 600 every day and I certainly wouldn't get an r1 for that
I hope they don't outlaw them before I have a chance to actually ride one I'm 55 years old and I would just love to ride a Superbike
“1000cc is to heavy” argument is invalid. 1000s are not much heavier than 600s these days.
Liter bikes used to be something that I really wanted but with 600's being as powerful as they are now, there isn't much sense in upgrading. True, liter bikes are something you can get used to but they are really unforgiving with mistakes, which we all make. Also, great montage, really shows your growth as a video creator. Keep them coming!
Harrison Jacobsen Sure man, 600 is a demon but 1L is a devil himself, 1L is a killing machine, one mistake you won’t have a time to ask for water, ha ha ha ha ha though I can’t deny that I feel it so badly.
Anything with 2 wheels and a motor is unforgiving!
With the amount of electronics on litre bikes now you'd actually have to work hard to dump the bike!
Once thought I should "upgrade" to a superbike but... I've since realized I'm really, really happy with my Honda 919. Just gonna slap a windscreen on it for the highway. I've had this bike almost 3 years now and only recently have I become comfortable with the power. First instinct was to want MORE POWER lol but I'm realizing I should just focus on getting really good with this bike. Maybe try a track day or something. I love wringing out 1st and 2nd to get up to like 90 on an onramp -- if I were to do that on a 1000 I think I would go to jail
pfunkle ride what makes you happy man. I’m glad you didn’t feel any pressure. I personally love super bikes
For me finding a bike that make me happy is very hard lol. I had 15 bikes (some include the Triumph Daytona 675R, S1000R, Ducati StreetFighter, Superduke 1290 R and many others) in the last 5 years and none of them did it for me, not even close. The search continues...
E.S. Slc well damn. Do you know like what style fits you the best. I personally love super sports
Lol I'm a bike whore. I lover super sports as well. Definitely not dirt, dual sport or cruisers. I want a bike that stirs my soul.
@@EEEBA1 keep spending money, it'll make you feel less empty. Just keep spending.
Yeah.. 600 is slow.
Man, i m riding a 150 😒
At least your riding 👍
125 me lol
@Infinite Property Investments LLC
How did it turn out? Died yet?
@Infinite Property Investments LLC It was just a joke lmao I'm gonna get a 1000 (not for my very first bike) and I was wondering how it turned out with you
150cc too
Just bought my first 1000, went from a street triple to an R1. I do miss how the bike flicked from side to side, but as a slightly bigger guy, 6ft2, 95kgs, I don’t really feel the extra weight that much, That power though, can’t use half of it on the street, but I’m glad I’ve got it👌🏽
I’m with ya! I moved down to a 600 from a 1k. It’s just more fun. You can twist the throttle with a more confidence and still feel in control. On the 1k I found my self holding back and a little scary at times. Too much bike for my style of riding.
I owned a 2005 CBR600RR... I upgraded to an '08 CBR1000RR and I kind of missed the 600... because for a moment in time I had both sitting side by side in the garage and when I hopped on the 600 I felt like it was fare more nimble and in my control, I actually completely relate to what you're saying in this video. I did end up selling the 600 but if I could get a time machine I'd never bother with the 1000
I basically sold my 03' 600rr to pay for school - and 3 years after I saw a good price from a private seller for a 06' 1000rr with 2000km - wasn't sure what to expect but I love it - wouldn't go back..
just gotta dive into it...
600 vs 1000 is purely preference to the rider when it comes to street riding, neither are beginner or intermediate bikes on street or track. Both are typically within 30lbs of each other and with top speeds within 20 mph of each other. Throttle control and features are so similar as to be the same, and can be modified. I ride 1000s because after test riding many of both I liked the feel of it better, I like the power and typically gear them lower with faster throttles simply because I like knife edge responses, even when touring which I do with it as well. At legal speeds both can be modified to ride almost the same, so again, it's all preference for a rider that can handle either one.
This is the reason why you don't spend that much money on mods lol
Oh absolutely lol
Never give money to a mod. Mods are gay.
Spending on modifications is a different thing.
no kidding. I could spend about 3k on my 08 CBR 600RR, but the bike is only worth that.
@WildWonkyWizard if your referring to that idiot yammie boob, wasn't that a 600? Not a 1000.
I’ve had both and I am now way more in tune with the r1. It feels way more solid on the highway and I’m not winding it out as much lol. I do love both and they have their own purposes
I used to think I would never want more than a 600. Then after almost killing myself and definitely killing my bike, I got a 954rr. Super light for it's time. Fun wheelie bike and great in the turns. After someone decided to rear end me I went with the next logical decision and got a full on liter bike. I couldn't see myself stepping back to 600cc power and torque.
Next video: I bought a brand new honda cbr1000rr!!!
I’ve been watching since that thing was grey and black. I wouldn’t get a 1000 to much power that 600 has it when you need it.
That was a while ago! You've been here for a long time, thank you so much for sticking with me :)
When does one "need" the power of a 1,000 off of a racetrack? How much time is spent on a racetrack compared to regular street riding?
I had a Kawi 650 in NYC. Never got it past 2nd gear because of the traffic, therefore, not much fun to ride. Now I've a 2018 Kawasaki Ninja 400 ABS KRT Edition (bought it as a 74th birthday present -in 7 days - for myself and have , 251 miles on it already) - it rocks because I can enjoy shifting through all 6 gears, and since it can go up to 130 mph, it's way more than I'd ever need, or want. Plus, one has to admit, it's GORGEOUS!
More fun to ride a "slow" bike fast than a "fast" bike slow.
Damn its true
@@HeroRR ill be taking the MSF soon. My question how long should i wait to get a bike? And should i get a new or use bike? Ive look at the honda cbr and i really like the bike
I have both a 2006 zx6r and had it for 5 years and i also have a 2008 zx10r. I love both bikes! I alternate them on weekends
I’ve always been a 600 guy also. 6ft 1” at 190 lbs and I’ve never felt too big or slow on a 600 Super sport
Bro i love ur vlogs they are the best they are simple and awsome. U are always riding ur bike in a legal way and always following the traffic rules and that's awsome.
haha, I wouldn't say always, but I try not to be too much of a tool :) Thank you! :D
That would be the dumbest reason to own a sportbike. Get a bicycle for that.
Oh hero.. you're my hero.🤮
As much as I love my CBR600RR and agree with pretty much everything stated. I grab they keys to my RSV4 RF every time. Just as nimble in the twisties, top notch handling and ten times the bike from brakes to suspension. People say oh 600’s are so nimble. So are the brand new litre bikes. Those Aprilias have outstanding control in the twisties and power to back it up. My CBR 600RR looks slightly bigger than my RSV4 too when next to each other and it’s actually thinner than my 600RR. Long story short. Get the bike you want.
Yep, I totally agree. My RSV4 is a lot more nimble than my R6 was. The turn-in takes a lot less effort, and it steers faster.
I have 09 cbr600rr, ridden lots of frends 1000 cc bikes, and 600 can't even compare. Litre bikes are whole new level, especially new ones. That's why they don't even make 600 cc anymore, except maybe couple of brands.
Your bike is perfect for street or track. I'm 56 & rode a 750 for yrs on street & track, I never felt like I needed more power & loved that bike but now I'm riding a Sportser on street & am loving the comfort & it is still fun to ride in the twisties.
I love the way the Honda CR600 RR looks ! Beautifully styled bike and I really like the Honda logo painted on the gas tank with the wings
I worked at a company and many of us rode bikes to work. One guy bought a new 600. The next two bought similar sized bikes. The four bought a R1. The other 3 traded their bikes back in for liter bikes. Not to be out done. The supervisor bought a Hayabusa. Every one owned a different make. Just funny.
Thats why i love my 750
That's a great bike
750's really are the perfect balance... I'd love to get one some day.
But realistically cant you just turn down the modes on the 1000 these days if it's that much of a "pain", "too much power lol"
@@will160176 you're not getting anywhere arguing your point of view with another person's point of view. You're both right.
@@axs7689 who says I'm arguing? Maybe they didnt look at it this way, maybe they did. I mean the bikes are damn there the same weight also. The only argument is that it is too much power?
Thank god we have someone sensible on youtube good channel.. im glad you speak sence and guiding people in the right direction..
I had my 2009 zx6r for 5 years and I absolutely loved it. It had incredible power, handling and acceleration. I put on a full m4 system with a K & N filter and a PC5, tuned it to about 120 hp and had the time of my life with it. It was so light and nimble and virtually no car could touch me. I didn't want to sell it but i had to get my dream bike BMW s1000rr. I do miss my zx6r though, it was easy to master and so simple, something I'll never come close to with the s1k I fear lol. But everyone has their preferences and it's all good cuz all bikes are awesome regardless.
I am getting a Honda CBR1000RR on Friday . I am trading my CBR650F for it so I will let you know how it goes. But I agree the CBR600RR has all the power that you need.
Hows it going?
Keeps us up to date buddy
I bought a 2018 Honda CBR1000RR and I have put 2600 miles in 3 months
boy oh boy how the table has turned
I went from an 06 F4i to a 12 600RR to a 17 1000RR and I’m very happy with it. They’re only about 20lbs heavier, and you don’t feel it at all. Honesty, the new fireblade feels just a nimble, and it somehow manages to feel smaller than the 600RR. Plus, with all the technology like slipper clutch, quickshifter, ABS, traction control, power modes, wheelie control, the IMU etc..... it’s easier to ride than the 600, and it just makes sense for both joy rides and commuting. I ride my blade the same as I did my 600, but ironically I’ve been in a lot more hairy situations with the 600. I got mine for 14k before taxes, which isn’t crazy compared to a new 600, and I’ve heard of even lower prices. Anyway, that’s my personal experience with my CBRs. And just for reference, I’m 5’5” 165lbs.
great points. I like the idea of the 750, but really have been happy with my Honda.
The hardest part is letting go. Once you were rid of the 600 for a short bit you'd be over it and loving the 1k esp with the torque
I'm only looking at 1000cc's for my next bike since 75% of my riding is done on tracks. My 600 is great and all but it's lacking on straights on the track. Plus the new panigale V4's are just drop dead gorgeous and I can't wait to get mine. If I was mostly a street rider I would have just stuck with my r3 because even that can get illegal quick.
If I didn't already have my 600 then I would consider maybe getting a 1000. But I just see no need to "upgrade". The V4 panigale is something special though ;)
The V4 is amazing. But I keep reading of how they fall apart for various issues
Most ppl who ride 1000cc on track can't ride the wheels off a 600, when you get every ounce of performance then it makes sense to upgrade.
@@asambi69 not many people can ride the wheels off a 600cc not an easy thing to do. I would never even get near 50% there. I would still get a 1000cc over a 600cc i'm done with having to ring the neck to get some power. Almost like 2 strokes these 600's no bad thing i still love a 2 stroke but they have there place
During my club racing days I have fond memories of riding around larger displacement bikes during open practice sessions. They were faster down the straights but I would be able to break much later and ride around the outside of them carrying way more cornering speed. Cornering Speed > straight line speed. Anyone can twist a throttle in a straight line. JMHO
I ride an RSV4. Definitely look into those. I mean, from your video about it, it seems like you know how great they are. But let me say, they REALLY are.
Oh, an RSV4 is a whole different story my friend. Those are simply amazing bikes. I heavily considered the Tuono before getting my VFR.
2:18 they really look significnatly different sizes. is that accurate or just the video lense?
Is a heavier 1000 make much difference on hwy around big rigs? Getting blown around more / less help?
"You dont need the power of the 1000cc bike" ............... yeah I know i dont NEED it ... BUT I WAAAAANT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!! which is why I dont ride wesper scooter - it has all the power you need , but .......
50cc is all you need XDDDDDDDD
It's Vespa you uncultured fuck
Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny.
Completely agree - a 600 is more than enough. I have a 600 and a 1000, I use my 600 as a commuter and I have the 1000 as a tourer when I tour around Europe. The main benefits of the 1000 for me is it's low / mid range torque, it's nice to be able to quickly overtake traffic when you're cruising at 80mph and the engine isn't screaming on the highway, but more so the practical benefits of better luggage options, etc..
Have you considered bikes like the yamaha fz07 or fz09? They are a little different but still extremely high performance
You should ride my 2017 cbr1000rr it feels like 600cc bike with 189 horsepower 😊😊 so much fun
Shekar Wali I just got mine yesterday (2019 1000rr). My last one was a 09 Repsol 1000rr. The new one is so smooth and fun, and feels lighter than anything I’ve ridden. Hard to explain to someone how good these bikes feel.
great video much love
What size would you consider a good starter bike? I've riden dirt bikes but not street bikes.
Great point, I feel just the same, my 600 is great enough for me and I love it!
Had a 17 s1000rr I let go because my commute was about 75% of my ownership. I took it to the track once and spent all day in 3rd and I felt like I was wasting the bike,maintenance,tires and risk. Not to mention paying $190 a month to commute is pretty dumb. Coming from a 650 I enjoyed working for my horsepower and keeping up with my friends. I learned to grind pegs on the 650 on the street. Still,the perimeters for learning a 1000cc let alone these hyper bikes is staggering. As a person who loves to work for my horsepower I’d rather have a 300 when I’m not trying to be egotist. To this day my dream bike is still a 600rr and I could afford more,but why. 600s are reliable platform,light,nimble, and proven similar to a Toyota Corollas using the same engine with minor changes and different bodies throughout development. Continuing,most of all I love to work for my horsepower and have a reason to flick through the gearbox. I love to build torque and use all my engines powerband. I love when people underestimate the bike you rides and you blow there helmets off simply by leaning into a corner carrying nothing but you speed and confidence .
My favourite bike is still an RGV 250. You have to work hard to get the best out of it. Too many people point and shoot and have lost or never found the art of cornering. That's where I get my fun:) Ahhh I love the old 2 strokes!
Karl Walters yup,many never caught themselves leaned over feeling the bike sticking to the pavement,planted at 45+ degrees. That is a wonderful feeling to become aware of what your bike mid turn and actually feel the ride.
This video aged well .... hahaha homies on the BIG ZX-14R now I love it
I'm getting a ninja 400 and I've only rode dirt bikes well I have to ride the 400 back from the dealership any advice?
I took my 07 cbr600rr from WI to FL earlier this month. Then back again. Great bike no issues just need to do a 3k ahead of schedule valve adjustment.
I had two different 900rr's in the 90s..I enjoy my VFRs more...
I was riding my VFR today and I just love that damn bike. The VFR is a better bike than the CBR in my opinion. I just have way too much of a sentimental attraction towards my 600.
Ever since i bought a 1000 , Ive learn't the hard way that it is a Privilege Not a Right to Hold a Licence !!!
I was just considering going from my 600 to a 1000 and I've only rode for about a month now... this video is making me reconsider to just look for something I like because I like maxing things out and I don't think I'd be happy with anything more powerful because it'll limit my opportunity to max out
The way you feel when you get back on your bike is the way I will always feel when I get back on my 07 CBR 600. Yep it still is just as comfortable as I remember it and way more comfortable than that other bike I was just on.
Couldn't run from the inevitable, could you?
I've owned 600's and 1000"s. Theres pros and cons to both. The thing is that 600s just aren't that exciting to ride unless you're above 10,000 rpm. Crack the throttle at 10000 on a 600 and it still doesnt compare to doing the same on a 1000 at half the rpm. They're completely different experiences. My friend had a Ducati 848 that I could beat every time with my 600 at the dragstrip but if i got to choose which bike to ride on the street i would pick the 848 because it FEELS faster even though it's not. Torque changes the whole riding experience. If we were on a track i would choose my 600 over the 848 but on the street having that torque there all the time means more. You dont have to hit ridiculous speeds to feel like you're where the bike wants to be. It's just more fun not having to rev the shit out of your bike. And the weight difference between 1000 and 600 isnt enough to make much of a difference. Theres little bikes that weigh less than 600s. Still it's all personal preference. If you enjoy shifting alot and feeling like you're making the bike work more then 600 is for you. If you want a bike that feels like it will lift the front wheel on command or like short shifting then get a 1000. Both are great bikes just different riding experiences. 600s near redline sound better too. (Same engine config)
Is a 600 comfortable enough to ride double on for long distance encana 600 handle the extra weight
My 19 R1 stock is 430lbs wet, and if you eliminate the stock exhaust you’re under 420lbs. It feels pretty much the same as my 08 R6 I had before it
after seeing your latest video this being recommended is funny. great choice, have a s1krr myself
Same lol
I don't know why I read the title as "The reason I got a 1000cc Super Bike" but I'm glad I read that wrong haha. 600's are perfect for the street.
I do that all the time! We must have dyslexia or something lol
I had the same experience. I rode my friends 07 cbr1k and it didn't feel nimble like my 600. I'm sure the newer/newest cbr1k feel more nimble, like a 600. That said, after tracking my 600rr for years, I feel like I'm skilled/responsible enough to handle a 1k. The 600 will be my dedicated track bike once I pick up a 1k.
I have a cbr1000 fireblade. The extra power is nice when u really need to get out of a jam! Better to have extra and not need it than the other way around. Be eazy 😎🤙🏾
You were saying?
-Honda RVT1000R RC51
This aged well
I felt just like you did for the longest time but finally I transitioned from my 2013 600rr to my now current 2016 1krr and it handles just like my old bike did. The old 1krr's are dogs compared to the last gen. I do not miss the 600 one bit. Been to the mountains and it's just as easy to ride. Love it every second and do not regret the decision ever.
In fact this has inspired me to make a rebuttal video. Time to get the action camera ready and give you my two cents on it 😉
I own a 2008 Honda VFR800, but I gotta tell you. Riding my wife's Kaw 250 Ninja is such a blast. ripping through the gears all day and not worrying about blowing through the speed limit most of the time.
And I'm over here with a cbr250r 😂😂
It's ok if your scared of the power bro
Really man...
You're saying it as the guy who drives what looks to be a pickup truck, and you're saying that. Surely valid argument!
My first super bike was, and still is, an '07 CBR1000RR stretched for drag racing. Air shift, NOS, Power Commander and suspension set up. I can corner faster than I like to with no problem and it is stable as a boulder on a straight run. ( I know it will never be a track day bike while it is stretched and I do not care) My '17 Africa Twin is a great commuter and off road bike so I have that covered. The feeling of my CBR on a long stretch between 3rd and 5th gear is criminally insane!!!! I love it.
What's your opinion of a cbr650r? Just a slightly heavier touring position?
After having done close to 100K clicks on an R1, S1000RR, 10R, etc... it is not easy for me to ride a 600.
And the newer litre class bikes are really nimble and compact.
It's one thing if you think 1000cc motorcycles have too much power. That is OK. But you also say that you believe that the suspension feels better on the 600cc because of the weight reduction...?? I think what +HeroRR means to say in this m-vlog is; HeroRR rides a 600cc because it's easier than riding a 1000cc(and cheaper)...
I can kinda agree a 1000cc can be a lot for the streets power wise...But the 600rr only weighs like 20 lbs lighter than the 1000cc. You will not notice 20 lbs when street riding. On a track sure. So weight wise you should not have not argument... also most 1000cc's will not make the power that production factory claims. The 2013 Honda CBR1000rr only makes maybe 150hp stock, with an intake, exhaust, race fuel, tune, and meticulous replacement of those mods when the parts expire; then maybe you will have a motorcycle that is constantly pushing 170 horsepower. Just sayin! The horsepower argument is just absurd anyways because plenty of vehicles out there are making 5-8 times the amount of horsepower your bike has in public streets! Some of which will do over 200 mphs easily. where as Most, if not all, liter bikes will not do 200 mphs off the show room floor. does that make high horsepower illegal instantly because its fast? Heck no! Tbh to compare a 600 to a 1000 is like comparing a walmart training wheels bike to a fully custom mountain bike!?!?!
I never said the 600 has better suspension. I just like the handling characteristic more. A 600 dives into corners fast and I like that. Also my 600 only weighs 400 lbs, The only 1000 that comes close to that (that is an inline 4) is the brand new cbr1000rr which I talk about later on in the video.
You should see 650ib freak out riding an r6 on a track he loved it compared to his new R1. The nimbleness gave him so much more confidence, races are won in the corners. Also maybe you rode some dead 600’s if you think that they are like crappy tricycles compared to mountain bikes / liter bikes man lol jeez.
@@HeroRR dude. My ancient 2003 R1 weighs 428lbs wet. What are you talking about?
@@thomas0086 then why doesn't 650ib ride an r6 instead of his R1m that actually is his favorite bike in his collection??
Lonnie Dearing I don’t know and I don’t really care to be honest,
Watch the video yourself.
He prefers the nimble character of the r6 on the track as he is a novice in that area
Honestly anyone would.
A small difference in weight in certain scenarios is all it takes.
Where did u get those mirrors? I have the same bike but my mirrors are stick I reckon. Those look like the mirrors on my gsxr with the intergrated turn signals
I can relate with some of the things you are saying. If I am riding in the city I usually set the wet mode on my 959 panigale. Yes 959 cc is not 1000, but close enough. And what I like the most of all the power it have, is the low rpm torque.
You don't need 200hp for the street. I understand you.
You dont need it, but it's fun lol...
William Slocum especially on a track, where you can legally use them.
We all do something illegal sometimes. Some more risky than others
William Slocum But we should avoid it, exept the stupidest laws. Buying a vehicle just to do illigal stuff means you will do it very often, not just sometimes.
Only H2 and >$25K Ducati bikes make that much power...most make less than 190 hp in the real world
I like as much torque as I can get. I have had over 75 motorcycles and rode Busa's and Zx14's until I was 58 years old, I also had a B-King that I wish I still had.
Now I have to listen to old farts like me talk about how well their cruiser handles and stops, they have no idea how well a motorcycle can truly handle.
When I moved to cruiser types of MC's I felt insecure for a long time knowing it in no way handled like what I was used to...
I ride a Valkyrie, 100HP and 100 foot lbs. of torque and it feels slow to me, but it is comfortable.
Bass Player, I’m like you, I’m 63 and I still ride my 1000cc Street Fighter. I just can’t warm up to the cruisers after riding sport bikes and dirt bikes all my life.
Meanwhile some of those old farts keep up with 600 sport bikes, and litre bikes too. My step-father told me a story about the time he rode with a bunch of goldwings with his litre ninja, the goldwings were constantly at 200kmh and he couldn't keep up with them because they were just that much better at driving. There's definitely a difference in handling between a cruiser and supersport, but as the saying goes: "The rider makes all the difference, not the bike." or something along the lines of that.
If they do the 600 rider is a noob, I had a gold wing and they do not have the lean angle. None of those cruisers do, otherwise we would see them in MotoGp
Good point about the 1st gear thing. My R6 with stock gearing does about 78-80mph at the top of first
Nice video. I couldn't agree more. What Action camera are you using? The resolution is amazing!
Thanks and keep it up
I upgraded to a 750, and then I realized a 1000 would just be non sense. Who cares about going on a strait line fast. If I wanted that, I'd do it in the comfort of a car. Bikes are supposed to be about having fun, and leaning it over is one of the most fun parts. Why sacrifice that for a more powerful and heavier engine? It's like a v8 mustang compared to a 4 cyl Subaru. The feeling is like flying a Jumbo jet as compared to a fighter jet. Different strokes for different folks.
How’d you come to that realization without owning or riding a 1000cc? LOL
And then 10 month's later, Bam! I got a 1K
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
I sat on a CBR 1000rr on the showroom floor and damn it seemed so damn small! maybe you can film a test ride?
Good points. K7 750 has been a good compromise for my daily rider.
You also forgot that the insurance on a 1000cc is way higher
Oh absolutely, Insurance, tires, gas, etc.
I went from a 2005 600rr to a 2006 1000rr. Cost is essentially the same except for the 190 rear tire which is just a bit more expensive. Heck even fuel cost is the same. It might be a different story for a new 1000 though ?
Insurance on my '09 R1 is cheaper than the insurance on my '13 636. Might be due to the 636 being newer though.
Liability insurance is supposed to only be based on the rider/driver, but insurance companies do lie about that... Engine size sometimes matters but it seems the truth is either the vehicle purpose as designed, such as racing, touring, commuter, cruiser, or possibly based on statistics of the previous similar models. This did surprise the reps at several of the major insurance companies, as they also thought liability was only tied to driver experience/history. In my 30s my 1000 is about $130/yr and my 1400 is $80/yr. My last 1800 cruiser was $200 in my 20s and would probably be $50/yr now. Basically it's all a scam lol... Full coverage on a 600 or a 1000 is enough to purchase the bike again in 3 years typically, an amount that allows insurance companies to make money even if they pay out a totaled bike claim
Insurance is not way higher on a 1k... it's WAAAYYYY HIGHERRRR!
I'd take the vfr over either one.
I have a CBR 600RR that I used to do some track days anda club racing. What a like the most is the sound and the revs going up and put a gear more with quick shifter.. Make me fell like a motogp rider :) ... But I have to confesse that I try the S1000RR on track and I love it... It's a bigger CBR600RR, the weigth is not too much and the power deliver is somth, but strong... Try it
Where’d you get your carbon fiber gauge cluster cover
I'd get a 600 and a 1000. Then again if it were fully up to me and not my bank account I'd have every bike.
All of them.
Yup me too
...2 months later "I Bought My First 1000cc Sport Bike! (Reveal Video)". Seems legit ;D
dash3dot just pretend it’s a simpsons episode and non of matters after that episode... everything resets
I come out off Michigan I been looking at 1000cc because I commute from holland to Houghton Lake and gaylord it is about 3:00 hour ride ,, I feel as a 600 hundred would cry doing high way speeds at 85 traveling that far. Where the 1000cc would breath and let me have more in the long run ,, where 600 hundred would fall short ,, please let me know how you feel
I got a 2001 gsxr 1000 it has 160 hp and i am pleasee whith it weightwise is it not to heavy!
1000cc bike is way more comfortable on the highway
A cruiser with at least 900 cc is even more comfortable.
80's Nostalgia Guy yeah but cruisers are lame lol
@@nerychristian I have a R1 and a 1700cc warrior.. i still prefer the R1 cause it slices through the air like butter.. drives like a cadillac on the highway with endless power
My No. 1 reason I won’t get 1000cc, No money
HeroRR Thanks for the insightful review .. Question .. how much do you weigh? ( you may have already have been asked that. I'm considering what you said. I weight 260 Lbs.
I have an 05 600 RR and I must say idk what people are talking about missing torque down low. Or the power not being usable. Is it that you want to stay in a higher gear and still be a rocket ship? I think the case could most certainly be argued on a track against liter bikes but if i can't find useful power on my bike then every car I have ever owned may as well have been a tricycle. It's like arguing there shouldn't be cars on the road with less than 300 hp. If I'm wrong can someone explain?