The last survivor of the Armenian Genocide - In Turkey
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- Bram searches for the last survivor of the Armenian Genocide. The Armenian genocide is still a very taboo topic for some, no matter where they are from. It seems that everyone has a story about the Armenian genocide, and not only in Turkey. Bram talks about the Armenian genocide with Turks, Armenians and Kurds. On his quest to find the last survivor of the Armenian genocide, it is striking how almost everyone is ready to try to make the best out of this terrible event in history.
The borders are opened with the Arab world. But the border with the neighboring Christian Armenia remains closed . A trip to the snowy eastern Turkey, where the inhabitants are still trapped in the unspeakable history from 1915, when hundreds of thousands of Christian Armenians, but also Turkish Muslims were murdered and driven out. The closed border changed the town of Kars into a cul-de-sac: a forgotten area. But the debate has moved on, and the farther Bram goes along the border with Armenia, the more the stories about the past come loose. So Bram goes in search of the last eyewitness, an Armenian man of more than a hundred years old who survived 1915 and still lives among the Turks, on top of a mountain.
Original title: The last Armenian
In this seven-part series Bram Vermeulen travels through Turkey - From Istanbul to the sparsely populated mountains in the east; from the closed borders of Armenia to the open southern borders shared with neighboring Arab countries - observing the rapid changes in a country that has a renewed fresh confidence.
In Turkey, was awarded the Special Award Discourse and Politics at the Erasmus EuroMedia Awards 2011 in Vienna.
Produced by VPRO, The Netherlands
Presentation: Bram Vermeulen
Direction/Editor in Chief: Stefanie de Brouwer, Doke Romeijn
Camera: Erik van Empel, Jackó van 't Hof
Sound: Bert van den Dungen, Rik Meier
Research: Yilmaz Akinci, Mahmut Kaya, Emran Küçük, Somnur Vardar
Production: Judith van den Berg
Editing: Matthieu Hes en Obbe Verwer
Colour correction: Gerhard van der Beek
Sound Mix: Rob Dul
Music: Wouter van Bemmel
translation: Emran Küçük, Halil Ozpamuk, Fatih Yüksel, Nian Bakal, Beriwan Khalil
Special thanks to: Alex Booy, Huibert Boon
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I am Magyar, and once I went to Turkey to study Turkish and stayed in the home of a Turkish (Türk'ten Türk) family. One of the sons had my age and was ülkücü. One day, the lady of the house told me that the Armenians had been persecuted by the Ottoman Turks and she told me about the Sarıkamış War. Enver Paşa lost the war for the Russians and needed a scapegoat. So he killed the Ottoman Armenians and told Talaat Paşa that the Armenians were responsible. Lie! He was ashamed to have lost the war and lied to Talaat, but this was only a part of the genocide story. In the end she said that the Turks know they killed the Armenians and they admit it when they are among the Turks, but they change the story when they are among the foreigners.
thats outright lie i amnot sure if you are or lady of the house is lying though
@@idealistlahana34 Isn't that why the Armenians lost court, lm0a?
yes its really story
@@idealistlahana34 Armenian peoples never lying like turk peoples
Мы живем во времена, когда моральных ценностей больше не существует, они воспитываются таким образом, что впоследствии они становятся животными. Геноцид армян - яркое тому подтверждение. Да, геноцид ... там, где был хаос ... который находится за пределами человеческого понимания ...
И хотя бы одно видео, картинка может свидетельствовать о том, что Геноцид армян имел место.
Человек должен быть человеком. Бог создал человека, чтобы создавать, создавать, но не разрушать, разрушать, разрушать ...
Тогда был 1915 год ... сейчас 2020 год ... армянский народ знает всех ... он создает и создает ...
«Когда Христос сказал не убивать, турок не существовало в то время» ...
Мы помним и требуем
My great grandma, Minasian told me of this when I was a child. It broke her..She was a great, great lady.
34:30("Turk bize dost degil")
Dost degilse o zaman turk topraginda nasil rahat nefes aliyorsunuz...?Allah Turku korusun!!
Sen Moğolistan bozkırlarında neninin bokuyla evcilik oynarken orası ERMENİ yurduydu ay bala
@@Gila107 Lan damgalak . Biz orta asya türküne benzer bir yanımız mı var ? Biz de Anadoluluyuz her Türkte az ya da çok Ermenilik var fakat bu kanla alakalı degil hayatla yaşamla alakalı bir durum
Türk işgalcidir. Yağmacıdır.
Zaza Xorto cogu turkler anadolu insanla karisti ermeni yunan yani neyin kafasini yasiyorsunki biz turkler yerliyiz bu topraklar bızım
@@Gila107 sizin sonunuz da onlara benzeyecek.
Bram, enorm bedankt voor de documentaire ! Kan ik ergens nog het gesprek zien met Ghello? ik zou heel graag willen weten wat zijn verhaal is.
At the end of the film, I feel so bad. The eyes of Gelho(Gel in Armenian mean Wolf) so dramatically, he is alone last Armenian in Van. I am crying ...
armenians know only about crying.
Bad Boy why you are crying?
@@kespec Why are you so insulting? Is respect not taught in Turkey? Armenians faced tragedy, and instead of sympathizing, you're very antipathetic. I guess sociopaths come from Turkey. Never in my life have I ever seen a breed of heartless people.
Kappa and Turks only cry about saying the genocide was fake waaaa waaa it’s fake
@Ktwana oh well which nation are you from? I think you don't know Turkish people well enough
Bram, thank you so much!
ARMOSPHERE dont believe its lie
Rifat Ayaroğlu Bunu yazan Ermeni, teşekkür etmesi çok normal.
These people are delusional. At least the Kurds admitted their role in the genocide, and appologised, many times. The Turks are afraid.
Today Turkey is said to be supporting the Uighur 's SEPARATIST movement for an INDEPENDENT East Turkestan in Xinjiang , China : Busy - body asking for TROUBLE ? President Erdogan should mind his business NOT to play FIRE !
KEE LIAN TAN Lol, except Turkish nationalists, the Turkish polititions don't ever bat an eye to the Uighur and its independence
Beautiful video. Keep up the great work!
once he said rumours in the mountains , chills went down my spine
Wonderful documentary.
Regardless of what side of the bias your audience hold true, this documentary warmly presents both sides, including the indignant pride of both Armenians, Turks and Kurds. It's a mindless and ignorant state of affairs when individuals take unto themselves a position that was beyond their control. It's a bastourma and soujouk sandwich between Turkish and Russian bread smeared in Kurdish tastes of political deception... There was no way out of the situation and brothers were torn into a political and subjective divide. The Kurdish gentleman said it like it was, people were fooled into thinking religion surpassed a human right to be good and vengence was incited into a large population.. Finish that monument in Kars, let it be know that those who have to live with one another want to and not Ankara bureaucrats. AWESOME WORK, best ever documentary highlighting the similarities of the cultures and how it would be best served united.
Hello Harry Sinanian,
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actually it is not, subtitles when turkish guys are talking deficient I want to think good let's say they couldn't translate it to the English
"Peace is a desire, war is a fact; and history has never paid heed to human desires and ideals."
-Oswald Spengler-
Thank you, Bram jan. It was a great report
Thank you so much doing this wonderful documentary. I start crying when I saw the Gelho. He reminds me some of me memories. Also which town he lives in? I might go visit him someday.
Thanks for your comment nihilvenitadeus!
He died.
@@eric28415 Mustafa Kemal ataturk too
@@roman-armenianmapper2600 Mustafucking Ataturgay
@@leonardotonin7608 Lol enjoy with your f*cking country
The way that guy lunged, if there was an Armenian there, they'd eat him/her alive. Hate is still the same I see. I am a direct descendant of an armenian genocide survivor and i win by living.
That land that the kurds live on is historically Armenian, it wasnt just given from the russians for administration.
And before Armenians it was the land of at least hundreds of nations.When Turks invaded Anatolia they did not killed former nations, they had lived with them peacefully.If Turks were a nation that loves massacre you couldnt find any assrian,greek,arab,serbian,romanian,bulgarian,kurd .. in the world ,cause all their lands were part of Ottoman Empire
lol, you are so full of shit haha.. Armenians have lived these lands for many of thousands of years~
yes because kurds lived on space
eastern Turkey is western Armenia !@Mr. Muscle
@@anuljanulkyankul Armenia is Turkey . You should be part of rest of Anatolia
Niye alt yazı çeviri koymuyosunuz? Çünkü adam haklı
We are all here for this Part 44:30 min. Thank me later.
Wow mashallah I am from Indonesia 🇮🇩 and watching this brings hope and harmony for the people. We can never deny history, ofcourse. But I love this guy in 24:49 he speaks as if everyone is welcomed and that history shouldnt affect their relationships with other people in different countries.
incredible scenes - you cannot believe until you actually watch it
Omg Gelho's eyes shattered me, now Im in thousands of pieces!!!
No words can match his eyes.
@@vproworldstories sad but true
@@vproworldstories as a turk i am very sad too :)
@@vproworldstories Only one word comes that close: *_"devastating"._*
It looks like normal grandpa eyes to me tho, my Grandpa is 80 and his eyes looks exactly the same.
And imagine this man is 120
I thought yo were going to talk with the last Armenian in your video. I guess he does not talk. It was so good to see him. He looks a lot like my Armenian grandfather whose parents came from Marash (Kharamarash) Thank you for this video.
Ne güzel belgesel hazırlamışlar good job
Türkmüsün
My grandparents survived the genocide while many of their relatives died mercilessly. My roots lie in Marash, Sivas, and Diyarbekir. Many thanks for this fascinating video. Cheers from an Armenian born in Los Angeles.
Thank you for watching, nonosh.
and the great great great grandparent of you family has with russians
tried to sting the Ottoman Empire from behind.
@@wartimenerd7 : you are already a primitive minded person, in addition you are a pathologic liar. Many countries recognize that what your ancesters did to the Armenians is a genocide.
Magnificent piece of work i really enjoyed it
Cool story bro
Why you did not put the translation
ty so much
You're welcome!
Armenius X turn on captions on the video screen thats what I did.
This video was funny. Good scenario and nice player/production
you find slaughters funny? damn your sense of humor is unique you should become a stand up comedian or something
@@vasilistaskoudis6918 lol,he says its fake
where is cafe?? no english?? cant understand who is complaining on what group
The documentary was so interesting to watch but i dont get it the first images of Turkey it looked so old and looked like from Arabia or Iran
30:00 - 34:00 this man is again to Turkey. I said that because he is pkk its mean terrorist, its explain to why he talking like that (pkk a terrorist group against the Turks have killed thousands of Turks from the past to this day)
@Jake Awake ne yapmışız?sizin de yolda yürüyen masum askerleri öldürdüğünüzü unutmadık.Cidden ne yapmışız?
@@federkleid0 kendisi kürt değildir zaten kürtler pkk'nın nasıl gençleri kaçırdığını bilir
God bless this survivor
26:14 What is this village name? Bu köyün adı nedir bilen var mı?
Kars/Ocakli village
Hali kışla diye biliyorum
33:25
35:05
How powerful this simple solemn gesture from the heart appears.
There is two types of people in this world:Good and bad. People from both sides were killed, this is war and it is over now we should all focus on trying to turn that hatred into love somehow
This is what the professor says too: czcams.com/video/eBVJH8Y9CmI/video.htmlm3s
I wish there were subtitles
hilda A. There is
Dear Friends,
How is it possible to contact Bram?
Thank you
Please, can you get English subtitles? Thank you.
Hi Suzanna Koizumi, there are English subtitles, you just have to put them on in CC!
yes sure
Where is the end?
Noo ..after seeing jelle,s videos one canot watch any other ..
So you didn't asked him anything???
I mean he is old but maybe he would said a word or two
Dit is een goede film, maar er zijn niet genoeg ondertitels in het Engels of Nederlands.
Waarom niet? Heb je de subs bij CC (Closed Captions) aangezet?
Merci Bram Vermeulen !
I am a little bit shocked when Kurdish men from Van start to speak. Some words it's the same with Armenian- percent, for example, he said dokos in Armenian its TOKOS and his language speaking style very similar to Armenian. 2500 years in that ground was walk Armenians and now in this 100 years after Genocide in Armenian ground the land didn't feel Armenians foot press. VERY TRAGEDIC
🇹🇷❤️🇦🇲❤️🇬🇷
:)
From Turkey
🇹🇷🇦🇿🇰🇿🇰🇬🇹🇲🇺🇿❤
Adsız Hatun ok bud
unholy trinity
There are many historians for both sides, but there is 1 thing they all agree at. That Russians promised land to Armenians if their population is higher than Turkish population at those lands..
Therefore the bloodshed began, while Turkey was at war with many countries who are trying to invade Turkish lands, Armenians that lived in those lands, that Turkish people called brothers for hundreds of years, started to attack and kill their neighbors / friends even block the paths of the Military and feed them poisoned bread. (There are countless documentaries about in how bad conditions the Turkish Military was at those times after the attacking Nations confiscated all the army's weapons. - There are many letters from those people that say all their bread finished and they have nothing more to eat, and how freezing it is)
At that point, already weakened Turkish army who are at war with many nations, that doesnt even have anything to eat or wear to their feet at freezing cold, had to move the Armenian people to other places, either that, or the remaining Turkish people on those lands were going to get killed by Armenians and those lands were automatically going to get lost without even a fight.
Moving Armenian population was the only choice and the hardest though, since there were nothing to eat and the weather conditions were harsh, many people died from both sides, it was never planned as a systematic kill, it was never meant to be that way, it was never the intention of Turkish people to start a fight against Armenians in the first place. All started with Armenians wanting more land to their own and if they had the population % more they were gonna get it so they started the killing.
People believe these or not, ALL the Turkish Historical archives are open, even the Military Archives are open (which is quite Radical for a Country to open their Military Archives to all the World, in the whole world there is not more than a dozen countries that can do it proudly), Turkish Governments have been issuing an unbiased scientific/historical meeting for decades, and asking Armenians to open their Historical Archives to the World so there can be a conclusion at last. But to no help..
Armenians doesn't open their Archives, and even arrested many people who tried to get in, in the past. (Why show the Truth, while you can get a lot of money and land, by Political means and by begging to the World right?) If they have NOTHING to hide, open the pages of History and let's see what really happened. Not just do that, also if you are heavily supporting the Armenian cause, go to İstanbul and check the Historical and Military archives for yourselves for the truth. They are open to public and to anyone 7/24.
can you please make one with subtitles.
Hello Armenius,
This documentary is available with English, French and Spanish subtitles.
You just have to click on the captions button.
:D
@@vproworldstories turkish subtitle too. We dont understand what these primitive people saying.
3:00 one of them said he isn't Turk he has Rum/Greek roots ! Let's remind them that the Greeks kept their signature and word and sustained the Turkish speaking Muslim minorities in Rhodes, Komotini, Kozani Kos while they killed and deported the Greeks of Constantinople & Smyrna and are the ones that still today are provoking Greece from land, air and sea claiming that the Aegean islands are theirs! All those villagers would be a laugh in Ottoman Empire! My ancestors were born in Ottoman Empire a great country multiculturally organized with a variety of languages religions caring about the arts and education
George Manousakis he was talking and saying the writer orhan pamuk isnt turk is Rum not himself
Panter Panta are you greek?
Please I want to know more about Gelo the Last Armenian Genocide surviver please
I have a solution that will satisfy all parties: Keep the modern Turkish and Armenian border the same but give back Armenians their lands back in Turkey. During the onslaught of Armenians, their houses and properties were stolen from them. Go back to the Ottoman census, whatever houses/acre of lands belonged to Armenians, find them and rightfully give it back to them. The land will go back to the Armenia family/individual IN Turkey. The land itself is still part of the Turkish Republic. If there are no Armenians alive who once owned the land they lived on and were kicked off during the deportation/genocide ( call it what you want, it doesn’t really matter ), then the value of the property/acre of land should go to the bank of Armenia. It really only is fair. This is the most realistic solution I can find. If no one likes this, then I don’t know any better solution than this.
First you gave back Karabaq to the Azerbaijan.! If you are so honest.
gameexpert2011 thats a good idea
That's a win-win situation.Good idea!
Armenians have with russians
tried to sting the Ottoman Empire from behind
@@emrekucuk4005 : Karabagh is armenian since antiquity, while Azerbaijan didn't even not exist.
any english subtitles?
Hi Wobba Fett, the subs are in the closed captions (cc)!
yes sure
Kars region (modern day provinces of Kars, Ardahan and partially Erzurum (Olur, Shenkaya, Oltu districs)) during 1915 was a part of Russian empire, not Ottoman. Armenian deportations and genocide connected with 1915-1916 and territory of Ottoman empire, not Russian. Only in 1920-1921 after Armeno-Turkish war and Kars treaty Kars became the part of Turkey. There were Armenian massacres in the borderline Armenian villages of Russian empire in november of 1914 during Ottoman offensive, but this villages are in Artvin region, not in Kars. Also after Russians recaptured Artvin and part of Batumi, the Russian Cossaks massacred part of Muslim population and destroyed some villages in Batumi and Artvin region, bur Armenians of Kars and also Muslims- were in safety till 1918, then Turkish forces captured Kars region and half of modern day Armenia. During this invasion mass scale Armenian massacres occured and Armenian revenge actions too. In April 1919 Armenians with British support recaptured this territory and till october-november of 1920 it was a part of Republic of Armenia. The governor of Kars G. Korganyan (Korganov) was very able and clever man and he tried to pacify Armenians and Muslims in this region. In Ardahan province - populated mostly by Muslims this policy was very effective and Armenian-Muslim relations was very good. Most problems were connected with Agbaba, Zarushat (Arpachay) and near the Armenian-Ottoman border there Kurds and Turks made attacs from Ottoman territory. In Kars distoric situation with time was more optimistic. Historically Armenians and Muslims live peaceful in this region and even in 1905-1907 when all Southern Caucasus covered by Armenian-Muslim massacres (Armenian-Tarar massacres), Kars region still in peace.
The most bloody incident which destroyed the chance to live togever peacefully was two wars- in 1918 and especially the Armeno-Turkish war of 1920. During this war Turks captured the region and massacred Armenians. Armenians in their turn also organised massacres and killings of civilians during retreat. Escaped Kars Armenians after this events scattered from all Transcaucasia and Southern Russia (Northern Caucasus, Rostov oblast and so) and in each family qept memories about the massacres of their grandfathers and grandmothers. I know many Armenians with Kars (Kars, Kagizman) rooths in Southern Russia, Armenia (especially in the city of Gyumri) and Georgia. Such histories also alive among the Kars Muslims. But the scale of Armenian and Turkish massacres was different and the result is obvious. There are no Armenians in Kars region- the region which historically was a capital region of Armenia. All the capitals of Armenia of Bagratid period were in this region- Shirakavan, Kars, Ani. In this region are the richest concentration of early medieval Armenian churches and monuments, most of them destroyed or in semi-ruined condition.
so are you happy now that you wrote this
O my God he reminds me my grandfather ....Im heartbroken...
You have got some good videos and you advertise to subscribe in English but in your videos you speak Dutch , why won’t you talk English in the videos for wider audience .?
Hello Daniel,
Our documentaries are in several languages, we make the choice not to dub our documentaries, and instead, we provide them with English, French and Spanish subtitles in the Closed Captions.
Turkey ready to open and documents about. you ?!!!
Its been open for a while. You brainwashed Turks keep singing that same song.
Sizi öldürüp ziyan etmeyiz. Size daha güzel şeyler yapmak isteriz
@@ArthaxtaDaVince777 And you arrogant armenians.You always say those memorised words.
because documents have been raided, of course it is open to be examine
Where is Gelho talks?
Kanka ağzını bıçak açmazmış bu adamın ama Gelho burada 44:25
"Last Armenians" LOL WHAT. BRO OMG HOW. SO THAT ALL GUYS ARE ALIEN?
lol When my history teacher was Kim Kardashian.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Now this humanity statue wiped out by Government. They said Ucube. What a pain! It was very valuable.
I wish you research ASALA murders and Xocalı massacre ...
Wait, you mean the faked xojali genocide? Blame alyev about that
Since when is 700 casualties deemed a genocide?
Azerbaïdjan army kill the Azeri of khodjaly for accuse Armenian, azeris reporter write about this but he was exiled of azerbaïdjan
@@asala1857 please zori balayan search
@@dogukandemirci2418 azerbaïdjan journalists said it's fake zori balayan never said that search
Gelho didn't say anything?
He didn't say anything with his mouth, but his eyes spoke a thousand words.
He did say everything ,by hies eyes and he spoke Armenian ....
Eastern Anatolia is historical and natural place of Armenians. But today there is no one single Armenian in Eastern Anatolia. Why? What caused this? Turkey ideologically is not able to admit this genocide. Armenian Genocide is the reason how Republic of Turkey was founded at the time. Ottoman policies had decided to banish all armenians from Eastern Anatolia right away. If there was a genocide, that's only a shame of Ottomans but Turkey isn't really different from being Ottoman because of organic and historical connection with Ottoman Empire.
If Ataturk wasn't against Ottoman policies all over the country and hadn't decided to leave Istanbul to found a new government In Ankara Ottoman Empire would still be alive but Armenian matter would stay the same. Ottoman government couldn't be accepting genocide as Turkish government doesn't today just because of that organic connection between Turkey and Ottoman Empire.
You can think about anything and decide what's reallly fact with your free will but You can't freely speak it out in a country like Turkey If it's against official policies. Law is all about state and government in Turkey. Law won't care about individuality and right of free speech. This term looks very silly When I think about circumsitances in Turkey. :} in the other hand Turkey is still angry Why EU didn't still accept Turkey in EU. Being a state includes a lot of complications and irrationality all together.
Turkey is maybe the most irrational country in the world.
Yabancıyı duduklesinler
The man isn’t even armenian
There are many Turks that look like Armenians it is very unsettling.
Armenians looklike turks. They re between turkic people.
Mert Tanaydin Armenians are not between turkish people it’s turks that have blood of 1000 nations
The comment bois what do you think about Turks after that video im just wondering
My grandfather was an armenian in the genocide he ran to iraq only his picture is with us and he borned in 1902 in nazly in van in turkey but until this time we don't know anythibg about it.
🥇🖤🇨🇦🇫🇷 Great job from Germany! a lot of emotions !
Thanks FERN! Wir haben auch einen Deutschen Kanal vpro dok, schon gesehen? Wenn nicht, unbedingt abonnieren! czcams.com/channels/Bi0VEPANmiT5zOoGvCi8Sg.html
In history Armenians and Turks lived in peace until WW1 when England and France set Armenians against the Ottomans. Armenians was the last nation to start rebellion and because of that Turks referred to them as “The Loyal Nation”. But Armenians started to kill Turks so because of that Ottomans published a law called “Dispatch and Settling”. With this law Armenians that were killing soldiers and innocents were moved to Syria and Iraq. There was no genocide. There were Armenians who were killed no doubt but that was not the intention. Armenians who rebelled were killed. All Ottomans wanted to do was seperate the two nations. I hope you understand.
Kanka anlamaz bunlar onların gözünde türkler barbar ve işgalci kimse avrupanın kızıl derili soyunu kuruttuğundan bahsetmiyor bugün veya 2.dünya savaşından sonra sömürge milletler özgürlüklerini kazanmak için ayaklanmaya kalktıklarında yine avrupa tarafından yapılan katliamlardan bahsedilmiyor özellikle fransanın kuzey afrikadaki faaliyetlerinden veya israilin filistin halkını asimile etmeye çalıştığından aynı türküyü çalıyolar işte ne desek boş
Genocide of the 1915 wasn't the last thing Turkey did to Armenians. They also continued to commit cultural genocide and in the recent decades they added the economic genocide to it. Turkey has a partner against the Armenians, Azerbaijan. Both countries are bigger territory and higher population and stronger economies and yet they bully the small land locked nation. US and Israel continue to not recognize the genocide due to Turkey's geopolitical appeal. These factors has kept Armenia in a grid lock and Armenia has managed to survive somehow through it.
Eastern Turkey, the historic Western Armenia is no longer an Armenian land. Any new Armenian historic finds are kept in the dark from the international community. Armenians are kept from being included in any archeological finds and the remaining churches in the eastern Armenia are for most part continue to be neglected.
The true justice will only be served if all these are taken into consideration. But, Armenia is only asking for the 1915 genocide.
Cry with your lies, check your true history rebellion against the Turks during the war. First accept your mass murderer of dasnaks. And that seems many of them survived and living U.S what a suprise.
If you have open your archive as Erdogan said let historyics discuss we will accept what will be agreed by all academics and archives materials. If you need use another country archive. If arm are confident genicide happened why you dont agree to open archives??
Old trafford319 Sir you realize Turkey still has a lot of their archives sealed or even possibly destroyed as well right? That’s why other nations accounts and searches for lost documents are used. czcams.com/video/nX0_MLV2FRQ/video.html
37:56 look this part. turks and armenian smiling together.. TURKS always that. ALLAH bless Turkey..
They are not turks btw they are kurds from turkey u can clearly understand from their accent....
if Turkey's not your friend, why you're speaking in Turkish?
because the reporter doesn't know kurdish
Derr!!!!!
@@vasilistaskoudis6918 wow intelligent i cant believe
Both Dashnaks and Ottoman soldiers punished for their crimes, so both Armenians and Turks should stop this nonsense.
Hate doesn't solve anything.
Besides the Hutu vs. Tutsi CONFLICT of Rwanda & Burundi the Armenians , Greeks , Kurds & Turks also have Historical Blood & other Debts to settle : Can United Nations be of any HELP ?
If you come all of you (which is don’t like Turkey) never going to successfull, because Turkey is strong country
28:38
senin annanen ermenidir
nene, babamin annesidir
Türkçe iflas eder :D
Why didn't you mention the people that the Armenians killed in Khojaly and Sivas? 55,000 Armenians live in Turkey, why did not you mention it?
Add turkish translation please. We dont understand what these primitive saying. Is this an ancient language?
Mert Tanaydin its kurdish
Mert Tanaydin you should know this
@@-chairs-9541 it is not kurdish but turkish with weirdo accent. Still subtitle is required
Firstly, I would like to thank you for organising that kind of video in order to inform people of history. However, I must confess that the speaker ( from The Netherlands) generally tried to capture some wrong thoughts from the residents both in Kars an Van. He usually waited them to say that Turks killed Armenians. Besides, he tried to impose European thoughts through Orhan Pamuk's book called Kar. However, the residents confessed that Orhan Pamuk misinformed all the world by his book. Upon writing his book, he won an Nobel prize. Of course European commission support that kind of
propagating products. Although the speaker wanted to impose wrong thoughts about Armenians and Turks, they do not hate each other. Additionally, they confess that Englishmen and Russian people did massacred Turks.
Looooong live armenian nagorno karabagh
PKK is a famous terror group in Turkey, and their leader is Ocalan, which according to the Kurd-Armenian, his moustache is used by others, showing that they see sympathy/favour him. He talks about the people who got killed by Turks when they were working for PKK.
Next, the Kurdish provinces joined the Republic themselves, and now they want to leave with acts of terror. So he can't say Turks aren't their friends, as if Turks started the conflict. And the republic focused on uniting all ethnicities in the Ottoman Empire for stability and to focus on uniting by promoting Turkishness amongst everyone.
However, this is not to the extent where they forget their own language. Turkis is a secondary language in the region, and some teachers are scared of teaching Turkish because some of the locals may show aggression towards the teacher.
Erzurum genocide
Erzurum its for Armenia
@@djzouzouterzyan3118 hahahahhahahahahahahahahah
Now, you say that in Erzurum and wait for them to be
@@djzouzouterzyan3118 ermania is Azerbaijan
@yagmur kavak you are zero okay
@@dedemede1466 its Yerevan
Sixth: If the Armenians were subjected to genocide, then how did the Turkish Armenians after the war in terms of population turn out to be even greater than before the war. It turns out that no one died, just those Armenians who after the end of the war were outside the Ottoman Empire simply ranked among those killed by the "genocide".
Seventh: The fact of genocide is established only by a qualified court, and not by deputies with diplomas of completely different specialties. The resolutions adopted by the parliaments of different countries have absolutely no power and do not turn the accusation of "genocide" into a historical fact, unless there is a decision of the international tribunal.
#NeverForgetKhojaly
Never forget Van, Gaziantiab, Diyarbekir, Hadjin, Mush, Sasun, Musa Dagh, Urfa, Yozgat, Sis, Sepastia, Adana, Kars, Kharpet, Palu and the hundreds of other cities and villages your people and the Turks have massacred
Gelho korkmus konusmiyo
hahahaha
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Very sad what happened to the Armenian people
I still say that foreigners should keep away the things they have no idea abut. These are sensitive issues. First, in Kars there are many Azerbaijani Turks live and it is not weird that a statue of the president of the our brother country is located in Kars. In Azerbaijan, there are many Ataturk statues, too. Moreover, while Armenians and Russians were occupying the Karabakh region of Azerbaijan, what was Turkey supposed to do? We closed the borders and tried to help our Turkic brothers in Azerbaijan. So do not make a dispropaganda! Cheap gas etc, Turks cannot travel to Azerbaijan easily because of the Armenia between our countries. This problem cannot be solved without Azerbaijan's consent. Unless the Karabakh is returned to Azerbaijan which is the rightful owner of that territory, no agreement seems possible between Turkey, Azerbaijan and Armenia. And if that is not happen in diplomatic ways, Armenians should stay in the arms of their beloved ally Russia because there will be a war for Karabakh, soon. As for that ''real'' Kurd, his history knowledge is really awful. Kars has been a Turkic land for over 1000 years. However, one thing is true that their blood is mixed because Kurds like this man are the traitors today. He lives in Turkey. His children have joined a terorist group called PKK. He also watches the pkk television channel and he still says Turks are not our friends. I hope that this traitor and liar man gets arrested, soon.
karabakh is our land the name is Artsakh not karabakh . it is you turks who are occupying Armenia . from Trabizon to Kars is our home land . russia is helping azerGAYjani tatar turks not Armenians . why dont your get out of my home land . go back to your altai , central asia . Anatolia is not your country
Fatih Kuzu are you ataturk or muslim?
Sevkhach Fedayin Turks and Turkish Azeris weren't even in modern day Turkey and Azerbaijan until the 1800s. However, Armenians lived in those lands for thousands of years.
Such an idiot arguments))) Turks also can't travel to France because between them located Bulgaria, Serbia, Austria and so. How do you want resolve this problem?)))
Sorry man that we - Armenians exist between two Turkish nations. Also between your nations exist Georgia, it's also problem, really?
About Kars as Turkish land by 1000 years, it't very interesting joke. First of all, Kars was captured by Ottomans only in the begining of 16 century and always kept it's original Armenian population - from ancient times to 1920. In Kars region there are some hundreds medieval Armenian churches, foretresses, 4 Armenian capitals- Bagaran, modern day Karabag village near Armeno-Turkish border, founded in 3 century BC as Orontid dinasty capital, restored by Bagratids and was a capital till 890; Shirakavan (modern day Chetindurak village in Akyaka district of Kars- in this video it;s a village of old man with Armenian grandmother)- capital of Armenia from 890 to 929; Kars- capital of Armenia from 929 to 961 and separate Kars or Vanand kingdom- till 1064- till Selcuk invasion; Ani - capital to 1045 and the most Armenian city to 1319 - the eartique wich destroyed this cit. And in this territory there are no one Turkish medieval monument.
Manuche mosque in Ani was built in 1072 by Sheddad dinasty prince Manuche and Sheddads has Kurdish origin, not Turkish. In 12-14 centuries Kars was under Georgian control with local Armenian princdomes, such Zakarians.
Of corse in the second half of 11 century- in 1064 Kars region was conquered by Selcuks of Alp Aslan who massacred the population of Ani and it is the most noble page of Medieval Turkish history of region- came; saw; destroyed. It;s so strange considering the land as Turkish just after conquering it and after blame the Armenians in occupation of "Azeri lands"))) If Kars was Armenian till 1064, and was conquered by Selcuks in 1064, but Armenians still live in this land and after liberate themsalves with Georgian support in 12-14 centirues- are this land Turkish or Armenian? If occupation is bad, why your logic working only when Armenians do it, but not Turks? )))Are you studied logic in your University ?)))
Well said!
You refer to the Kurds as Slaughter
some Kurds to cooperate with the Ottomans for booty and money!! Is it really a good reason for??
Britain also had many Indian soldiers !!! Do you blame the entire Indian nation today for the atrocities committed by the British?
You are not neutral, you just want to prove what you want
İndian's ? Black's
Bram visit turkey now pls its a long time ago
So is srebrenica now go and be coocky turk in banja luka
And what about khojaly massacure
Dont look at the comments so many salty tozic turks here
Abake Toxic? Just like you.
you people, read your history, armenians migrated from Thrace to Asia Minor (:Turkey, modern day).
kurds have been the dwellers of the region, indigenous people to the lands. don't mistake kurds' kindness for foolishness.
it was complicated form of war and for the record on most scenes armenians throw the first stone in the name of freedom promised by the russians. when they failed, instead of accepting their fault they started crying(not right away though there was a short period they did acapted their fault but it was realy short if you dig deep you can find data about that period) .in other regions the suffering and food shorteges had the same effect on everyone empire was at war for so long it was normal given the circumstances. But armenians decided to go outlaw to get whatever they want, army being weak and mostly away at the time couldnt respond, when it had time ofcourse it responded harshly it was army responding civil unrest if you dont want army intervention then dont f.ing kill steal rape innocent people when their protectors away at war its realy that simple yet they didint get it(obviusly not every armenian comited such acts but they didn't stoped such acts either. it was their sons , husbands and relatives who did this atrocities and when empires army came and listened the horifying stories from their kin entire armenian society were blamed.) . and in order to prevent such things repeat empire tried to move armenians but empire were still weak and mass relocation is problematic.... whatever i am tired who cares about the truth after all. world we live in has one rule be strong and smart and live as you want or dont and you live however others want you to live. being tools for foreigners didn't helped armenians, didn't helped arabs it will not help kurds we lived with all these groups for centuries just fine until they decided to betray us some suceded in its betrayal others did not in the end the ones who succeeded arent much better off than the ones failed, being tool isn't a way to being well.i am just thankfull its harder to lie about stuf now too many cameres recording events theese days otherwise i am certain hundered years from now we would be acused genocide against kurds for sure...
bastami yasli adam hakli
kuzey doğu daki türklerin bukadar akıllı olduğunu bilmiyordum
Onlar kürt
lol its like the same storys the Grandpas telling armenian Grandpas are also Telling about Armenien Womans You dont know ho to trust