The problem with investment plants
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- čas přidán 30. 06. 2023
- Are investment plants actually real? What's the best way to actually make money off of a plant? I'm not sure if most of us our doing this right.
Thank you to my friends @petevsplants7516 and @plantsinjars for helping us understand what's the best way to actually turn a profit from plants.
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Thank you Pete and Laur for this video!
Go check out their channels!
Pete vs Plants: czcams.com/video/WT-5klfrVcY/video.html
Plants in Jars: czcams.com/video/lWVjYbvsIaA/video.html
Thanks for having me on mate :)
I need to know if Laur’s finger was a plant cloning related issue. 🕵🏻♀️
That ending killed me lmao
we do need to STOP
No lies detected!
@@KillThisPlant❤
😂 you're ruining it..
Me too 😂 I giggled so loud! "You're ruining it"!
I hope they got it lol
Your advice to never spend more than $50 and to wait 18 months has changed the way I purchase plants. My patience has allowed me to get previously $$$ plants for $15 at a farmer's market. Keep up the educational videos.
That's great. What did you get?
@@KillThisPlant White princess philodendron with two plants in the pot for $15. It was stunning seeing it so reasonable. I'm now waiting on a strawberry shake philodendron. They're coming down in price just like you said in the video. Thanks for the advice!
Same here except with local groups! I just got a Thai con for $15 because it had thrips in the past. It's un quarantine just in case but honestly looks flawless
I managed to pick up a large shivereana for $40 that was marked at $85 in my favorite shop for months. It was sitting so long because it didn't have great coloring or variegation, but it was also placed farther and farther back in the shop the longer it sat. I took it home and with minimal babying, all the new growth leaves are crazy diverse in color, and I'll be starting propagation soon to make more to sell. Shopping around and waiting is always a good idea unless it is a must have plant
Thank you for telling it like it is. Subsidizing this expensive hobby is probably all that can be done. 2020 is not coming back. I buy a lot of great cheap plants at farmer's markets. Most of them make it and I have a nice looking living room and bedroom as a result. If I were to kill a $300 rare plant I would be sobbing every time one died.
Leafless nodes are good for exactly one thing - trying to rescue a plant that got neglected or pest infested and you're not ready to let go.
Exactly.
They make for decent trades! I got a few wishlist scindapsus by trading wetsticks for wetsticks
😆"You're ruining it for everyone!"
I'm so glad I don't suffer from FOMO, with regards to rare plants. 1) I don't have the room. 2) I like small-leaf plants (especially Hoyas). Great video!
youre lucky. the fomo still has me by the throat.
Using a plant called "marx" to explain peak houseplant capitalism is extremely amusing.
Anyway my current position on this is "I need someone to buy these plants from me because I'm running out of space to grow any more."
We're all out of stock on irony. New shipment next week 🤣
Must admit, I really really want a Monstera Burle Marx Flame - I already have a Philodendron Burle Marx Variegata (under $20 and so cool.) Burle Marx was a Brazilian botanist and landscape architect, and a fascinating person. Yes, the irony is a good one.
What is a Marx plant? I’ve seen the term before but have no idea what it means!
@@lahyte_5925 There are Burle Marx Philodendrons. They also come variegated and there is another one called a Philodendron Burle Max Fantasy. The most famous Burle Marx plant is probably a Monstera with an unusual shape, the Monstera Burle Marx Flame, one of which I will probably buy when it comes down to under $100. Burle Marx was a Brazilian botanist and landscpae architect, there are probably many plants named after him.
I've always been a "wait a year or two" kind of guy. I get FOMO, but I never got spending 100's of dollars. Ive recently found a hobby (carnivorous plants) that get me closer to that "investment" price tag, but I still won't put more than 50$ into a plant. Glad to see you're talking about it (especially leafless nodes LOL)
Granted I'm pretty new to plants but I'm also criminally poor atm, that said I have a pretty sizeable collection already full of great plants all from just asking nicely for a small cutting from various friends plants, I don't have a particularly botanical social network but a plant here a plant there quickly adds up, recently brought a string of turtles for £14 (about $17) and apart from stuff like soils and such that's the most I've spent
Nature grows these little bastards for free and I love nature more way than greenhouses, why would I spend so much for all that?
I feel like you're in my watch history with these collabs
Yes I am.
@@KillThisPlant looking forward to the @techplant collab
I never fall for trends. I can't be arsed. Either I like a plant or I don't. My favourite plants in the world are pothos and diefenbachia. Everything else I have was either gifted, spontaneous purchases, or propagations i started just to compare methods for the sheer fun of it. When I have too many, i either give them away or trade (often for outdoor perenials).
Fun subject! Also, thank you for showing that you isolate and treat your new plants. So many people skip that part and it’s so important
Interesting video (as always).
Pete is awesome and it was nice seeing a new face and learning more about cloning.
IMHO, the “payoff” in this hobby (for most of us), is the satisfaction of successfully growing plants we enjoy. But there’s value in what we learn along the way. And of course, there’s this awesome community that’s worth investing in.
Couldn't agree more!
$40-$50 is prob the max I’ve ever spent on a plant and only because I really wanted it and it was my birthday lol I don’t have time to be worried about profit with my plants
Man this video was fire 🔥 and right on time! I’m definitely newish to the plant scene these past years and I definitely see where these trends are becoming so lame in my opinion lol Like is anyone really enjoying this hobby or treating this like a job. Which is totally fine but screw that I’m trying to enjoy this hobby to escape mentally from this crazy world. 🙌🏽 Great content man!
this is soo cool! i love how you have others show what is good and what is not the best way to sell and prop plants.
I just found your channel today and I gotta say I'm already a huge fan. Thanks for the great content!
Awesome, thank you!
The most expensive cutting I bought cost 25€. I will not go above that. Not for a cutting. The most "profitable" plant of all was so far my Hoya Lockii. I bought a cutting a few years ago for around 18€ and I've been able to sell several cuttings all ranging around that amount (15-20€). Considering that I would have bought the plant anyway and that it brings me joy taking care of it I think that was a pretty good investment. It certainly paid for itself, that's nice :)
I definitely don’t buy plants for profit. I do propagate them and gift to those I find worthy.
What people need to understand is once a plant hits it's peak of popularity, it's only going to go down in price. It's never going to hold a stable price in the long term. And you can't price a plant based on what you paid for it 6-12 months ago.
The other day I saw a girl trying to sell a (beat) 4-leaf monstera albo for $700 like it was 2020. And the comments were crickets.
As a very casual hobbyist who isn't super into "rare" plants, my most profitable plants have been my VSOH and my big Scindapsus Exotica. VSOH are so simple to prop on large scale and people in my area still go crazy for them. I've made ~$200 off of an easy-care $30 plant. And the Exotica is just one of those impressive timeless plants. I bought an 10" pot last year for $60. I've made ~$150 selling single rooted cuttings.
But, like you said, I'm not really making much money. I'm just subsidizing my hobby.
Definitely the best answer for a lot of us.
I saw Philo Pink Princess and a White Knight plants at the blue box store yesterday, and they were only 17 and 20 dollars, respectively. I just wish I had bucks, but I'm moving next week. Hopefully, this will be the new normal. I did get a neon pothos for less than 5 dollars though, and a 5 dollar fuschia in great condition.
This was great. Comedic and informative!
Yup I agree on the last part. I sell plants in the exact condition you mention in the beginning, visible roots (new growth) and new leaves, and keep seeing hundreds of plants being sold as rootless cuttings, some people even only sell as "fresh cutting" straight from the mother plant... Insane...
Can you please tell me why it's bad? I see people selling fresh cuttings all the time and I feel like it's the only way to get the plant cheaper for me :((
@@JohnSmith-pf8jq yes it is cheaper, and yes it may work. But I've had many people coming back to me asking for help or simply telling me "I bought a cutting from someone and it's not growing, it's rotting, it's dieing or ultimately it's dead..." The survival rate of a cutting isn't as high as a rooted, stable plant. Either because the people don't have the setup for a fresh cutting, have problems moving from water to substrate, and I've even seen them arriving dried out from shipping... I mean there are many reasons. Ofc it's cheaper and I understand that most people will prefer a fresh cutting over a rooted stable plant. But in many cases locally I see cutting of the same plant being sold for 30€ and the plant with a few leaves rooted etc costs 50€... In the end what would you choose?
I'm so glad I lost interest in this whole rare plant thing.
Phenomenal video as always, i alwaus wanted a thai con but have played the waiting game for 8 years. Finally got one at an outstanding price
Thanks for info!
Interesting and funny, as always. Thank you comrades!
My budget for new plants is 3 to 10 euro at the moment. When I can keep my plants alive and healthy for a year, I might allow myself a bigger budget for a nice plant or two. My plants all need cute pots, too, you know. I'm only a beginner, so the thought of spending even 50 euro on a plant, makes me a little dizzy.
I love how she points with the finger that almost got cut off doing tissue culture saying “you better try tissue culture” the irony 😂
great advice !
The easiest investment plants are ones you eat. "Sell them back to yourself", AKA growing your own instead of buying them in the store. There are quite a few beautiful plants that also have fruit. Loquats, blueberries, and citrus are all beautiful plants that do well in containers, but will need direct sunlight.
Thinking a little smaller, microgreens like lettuce and oregano can grow on most kitchen counter environments, and if you like watching plants grow quickly they're usually pretty good about that too
@@DragoniteSpam Exactly!
I have a modest indoor and outdoor container plant setup. It all started started with everyday herbs growing on the sill of the south facing window. Having some fresh herbs or greens can be quite handy and thrifty.
That was so good you guys. 😊
Found your channel a couple of weeks ago when i was learning about how to care for my monstera deliciosa. You've become one of my to-goes for clear information.
My mind boggles at people spending £500+ on a plant! People can do what they want with their money but i was not aware this was such a big thing going on in the plant world. My most expensive plant purchase is a £9.95 pink princess philodenron.
Pink Princess isn’t even a true rare plant. It’s been designed/cultured with other plant’s to form the pink. Now they’ve cultured a variegated version that is ridiculously priced, but it is beautiful. If I can find the CZcams channel I’ll send the link.
It’s Pretty in Green CZcams channel
I will have a look. To be honest, I didn't even know it was considered 'rare' when I bought it, I just love pink and came across it when I was looking on etsy. Mine doesn't look like the super expensive ones I've seen in videos, where 50%+ of some leaves is a uniform pink, but it's got a nice amount of pink on every leaf and the stems are red which I'm told is a good sign for continued pink. I really like it.
Wow. Instead I invest my savings in FD, gold, money market and real estate. I love to see plants grow and so I buy dirt cheap plant (not many fancy plants) deals. In my country, I get plants only in 50 cents to $10and grow them for happiness and see them grow and the part I played. I also root cuttings and share them with my friends and relatives for free. 😊
Thanks for sharing your cuttings!
I’m definitely just subsiding my own hobby, I also made long term investments in gardening that is different from houseplant investing
As always educational and informative! The ending 😂😂
😆 man lee be cracking me up 🥚🍳🤷🏽♂️😂🤣
I refuse to buy a plant that doesn't have leaves and I can't see roots. Just why would you do that to yourself.
very interesting, especially the tissue culture bit, i didn't know it was possible at home, i might want to learn about it (i'm thinking about propagating phalaenopsis if possible)
in my country, an "expensive" plant is something around 40euros so i never even thought it would be possible to earn money with them at home
Laur's guide and channel is really great if you want to try.
Great crossover episode... btw Sheffield Made Plants sent me from 4 months ago. Cheers
honestly, i think one of the most profitable ways to make a little on the side with rare plants is probably flipping them. lets say you buy a quite mature plant for 200 bucks as a ''good deal'' you then take a little cutting for yourself and instantly resell the plant for around the price you spend on it (if t was a good price). that way you lost zero money and you got a free rare plant for your self as a cutting that will grow into a plant anyways. but honestly, if you dont plan on ''making money'' but simply: paying for the plants itself, you dont need to sell high prices. if you sell a cutting for 10 bucks.. thats 10 bucks more you have now and since you have the plant and plants grow back anyways its free money to put into other plants.
I can't even have houseplants anymore because of an excess of cats and this is still my new ( to me ) favorite channel
😺😺 thanks for watching
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE this content
I’d love to see you try tissue culture Lee xx
I love your videos
LOL i just saw that lamborghini on marketplace this weekend 😂 great video as always!
$500 is my final offer.
Yassss thank u i prefer paid few extra buck for at lease a leaf cutting
Mandam Ruininit it for everyone! Haha, good stuff. Gonna go out and make some clones, wish me luck!
Thanks for the engagement. 🥲
That ending took the cake hahah
“You need to leave” 😂😂😂 love it
i literally just cut off two big stems inside the store air layer them and then pot into multiple for freee - think about it they’ll never catch u haha
The fastest way to make a thousand dollars/euro with plants is probably applying for a job in a (industrial) greenhouse. Also remember: we call stockmarketbubbles as a reference to the dutch tullipbubblecrisis.
You had me at “that’s enough Facebook for today” 😂❤
its always a mistake to go on there!
I hate leafless nodes I would never buy that. I think you should add no roots to the list like i'm taking an insane gamble at this point
Here in my Catholic country, for All Saints Day (it's the day after that shameful, pagan Halloween from America), everyone goes to the graves of their loved ones and leaves them flowers. At that time it is already cold, so Chrysanthemums are bought. Florists prepare for that day, because they earn more on Chrysanthemums than on their regular jobs throughout the rest of the year. It saved and enriched many who lost their jobs. You can never earn so much on rare species, too much investment. Although, some of the wholesale Phalaenopsis growers make great money as well, despite significant investments. I assume that they can easily grow Spathiphyllum wallisii under similar conditions . You can make money on everything that blooms beautifully, not large and doesn't cost much!
Ok you have a niche so what do you expect 😂😂😂 also your buddies plans are exactly how I’m doing my business it’s the lazy persons business model, high initial investment… forget you’ve invested… badda boom badda bing you can finally sell and actually make money back and more. (But these are experienced growers and not something everyone should or could do.) Thank you for highlighting the right way of going about getting into selling plants. Also, thanks for calling the node peeps out because it’s so annoying!
You’re so funny, make more content please
Ok I will!
@KillThisPlant ☠️
Subsidizing my habit. lol
Hi mr. Kill This Plant. I've never bought a plant online before, what is the problem with buying/selling leafless nodes?
The behaviour on the buyers side can lead to: I cannot afford an established plant right now, so I'm going to take a gamble on this. Often when a leafless node is send through the mail, it isn't viable on arrival, or it will take months of struggle to root and finally start producing leaves. You either lose the plant (and your money) or by the time it does root and produce new leaves, the price has dropped so significantly that, if you just waited, the price is now cheaper to buy a larger established plant.
Behaviour on the sellers side can lead to: I can capitalize on a trending plant right now by selling it now, instead of rooting it myself and providing a safer more stable product to my customer. I know that some of these nodes might not be viable or would take months to root and its not worth my time to try. I can pawn it off on a customer, once it out of my hands, its their problem. I'm just going to straight up scam people and sell these golden pothos nodes as Monstera albo nodes. It keeps working so I'm going to keep doing it.
When it comes down to it, I believe the cultural shift that covid brought to houseplants lead to an "I need everything and I need it now" culture and it hasn't been positive. Build a community, trade nodes with friends.
@@KillThisPlant Thanks for the comprehensive answer :)
^^^^this
Plants are the new bitcoin 🚀🚀🚀
Moss art, marijuana(can even make money without growing anything!), ginseng (5 year investment)
I didn’t even realize that video was supposed to be to make like… a profit? I would 100% do tissue culture at home just to see if I could and to subsidize more plants lol
Just found your channel! So, do the people doing the tissue culture have to tell you it's from tissue culture? It's not a problem with the plant, right? It seems like it would be the same plant as if you just cut a node and propagated it.
Like legally or morally do they have to tell you?
No, many plants we buy are from tissue culture anyway we probably don't and won't ever know.
Somehow my strategy of only buying supermarket plants on sale and then keeping them isn't working.
Funny stuff! If something is easy to do, a big business is already exploiting the method. You're not going to make any money, just do this for your friends or do exchanges instead.
oh my your close up to the mic was a little too intimate LOL SCOLD ME FURTHER
These estimates aren't even including the cost of water, lighting, time, etc.
Hahaha I’d love to see people looking back at these videos in 20 years wondering why people referred to themselves as plant parents, paying a thousand bucks for a fricking leaf 🤦🏽♀️
😂😂 “twenty five cents an hour?!”
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The tissue culture girl didn't take cost of lighting or her time, 10 dollars for the tissue culture stuff ok I donno the price but if it involves heat, light etc you're posting more than 10 a month! 🤷🏼♀️
If I needed 1000k right now, I would just post some of the plants I already have and since costs are much lower now I would technically take a lots but it would still get me to the 1000 I needed 🤷🏼♀️
For the sake of brevity we can't include everything. Lighting for a single shelf of LEDs is probably $30-50 a year. That's less than a percent of the potential profit.
@@KillThisPlant yeah that's true but don't they use heat mats and stuff? I'm not sure what the cost of running a tissue culture setup is lol but I really can't imagine it only being ten dollars. 🤷🏼♀️ Maybe BC I'm in a small town in Canada so the shipping alone on the stuff would cost me way more 🤣🤣🤣
would it be a tax write off to donate cuttings with your friends? #loophole
Weed….
anything that takes more than 2 minutes of work is too much work for me.
my time is more valuable than the money made
Who buys a $500 plant from a stranger?!
how to make lots of money be rich and white
nice job breathing in that melted plastic; key step in growing a plant
Raise your hand if you’ve ever been personally victimized by a leafless node 🙋🏻♀️
Investment plants sounds like girl mathing to me…